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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Cocoa Edition

>News
New Mistral Large, now with vision and a free tier https://mistral.ai/news/pixtral-large/
Gemini-exp-1114 is now available via the API, use <option value="gemini-exp-1114">Gemini Exp 1114</option> https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1857535825895993366
Opus 3.5 is still planned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugvHCXCOmm4&t=2235s
Anthropic retire Claude v1 models https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/resources/model-deprecations
Claude 3.5 Haiku out, new 3.5 Sonnet out https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/models

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgtemporaryOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
card v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/reader | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
latest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

clit: >>103234379
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ANCHOR
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O1 SUPPORTS STREAMING NOW
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>>103237822
huh
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>>103237853
that's the name field...
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>>103237853
It's in the name field, not subject field
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>>103237853
Cute retard :3
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>page 6
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fiz...nonnet doko...please...
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desu
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>>103237958
desu would never desu in this thread
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Better this thread then the other, I suppose...
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>>103237816
May I know what her armpits smell like?
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When does the Miniproxy quota reset?
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>>103238184
every 6 hours
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>>103238359
nuh uh
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SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THE FIZBO PW IM TIRED OF LOOKING THROUGH THE CHIVES AAAAAAAAAAA
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>>103238549
it's the same as the old one
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>>103238598
i dunno the old one D:::
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>>103238613
it's over for you
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>>103238626
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCKKKKKKKKKK
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>>103238645
>>103238549
>>103238613
wow amg too dumb to search the archives which takes 2 seconds
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>>103238677
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
is amg another hint
ALSO IVE BEEN IN THE ARCHIVES ALL DAYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>103238718
oh you're not amg?
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>>103237824
Don't forget to report any and all posts advertising shitty discord servers!
Don't forget to filter out shills regarding smol and asa! Evading filters isn't very nice.
He loses a pass if you report him
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https://docs.anthropic.com/en/api/rate-limits#updated-rate-limits
Anthropic is updating their rate-limits tomorrow, Tier 4 is going from 400k tokens per minute (total) to 400k input tokens per minute OR 80k output tokens per minute, whichever you hit first. TPD limits are removed.
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>>103238726
no im mark
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>>103238739
>TPD limits are removed
based based based based
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>>103238739
>no monthly spending cap removal
meh
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>>103238549
youarenowafisheroflogs
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>>103238739
oh wow they finally made their API usable for corpos
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>>103239019
ooohhhhhhhh
thanks kind anon
wish archives let you search in between words
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>>103239019
whats with fiz and the most autistic and hard to get public proxies known to man
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>>103239041
i think rainy was harder...
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>>103239037
you can just use *word*
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>>103239049
i tried that but it only works if the word is at the beginning
id see fishermen but not the pw
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>>103239041
most professional public makie
reminder that cloudy only lost 2 keys and it was revoked by gojo. not even the standard way
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OAI really hates pregnant lolis
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>>103239061
>it was revoked by gojo
Damn really? literal nigger behaviour
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>>103238845
Soon... oai top keys were at like $10k and now they're at $200k, it can only get better as Anthropkc gets more compute
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https://www.characterhub.org/characters/novel_draft_8795/osaka-a3d7f5dcc672
unrelated
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>>103239084
anthropic is going bankrupt within a year
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>>103239111
>partnered with dod
Nah, they won't go bankrupt even if they tried now
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>>103239111
less than a year if they keep making models with 0 instructablity
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>>103239026
More keys will leak out in the coming months if we're lucky.
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>>103239116
What use does the dod have for a smut generator?
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>>103239117
>recent model is the best public model on the market when it comes to following instructions
>keep making models with 0 instructablity
nigger what?
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>>103239141
>>recent model is the best public model on the market when it comes to following instructions
you don't actually believe that do you
no prefill btw. that's cheating
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>>103239141
>claude
>instruct
lol
lmao
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>>103239152
I do, just use system prompts for important instructions
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>>103239152
>instruct chatgpt to write porn
>can't
>instruct claude to write porn
>can
Your response?
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>>103239259
>instruct chatgpt to write porn
>can
your response?
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>>103238184
00:00 (GMT)
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>>103239314
>it's slop
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>>103238184
how did you hit the fucking quota kys
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Pixtral large actually kinda good? It's better than Gemini and latte.
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>>103239375
>Her body a symphony
>she purred, her voice a playful drawl
>She, She, She, She
Holy slop. Do you read your own logs?
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which thread is the reel one
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>>103239375
>a testament
slop
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>make a loli who's slightly curious about scat
>her first message is her pulling out a sealed plastic bag filled with her shit
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>>103239411
This one should be bumped faster so we can switch to the other one later.
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>>103239411
when in doubt, make another
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>>103239481
All the scatKINGS are in the other thread dumbie.
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>>103239499
i have to wait five minutes to bake. can you bake? i
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>>103239375
It's much less slopped than 2.0 for sure, the old one was quickly getting repetitive at temp 1.0 without any other sliders set, but 2.1 goes wild while still trying to maintain coherence. It's cute.
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so why are there two threads now? Can you degens not gather in one thread? Anyway what's a model for rp or erp that doesnt answer with 1000 chars novels
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>>103239567
just tell it to speak less
most of us are sad it doesn't speak more baka
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>>103239359
What's the quota anyways?
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Just became an openrouterBARON, for some nonnet, I think I'll remorgage my house for Opus tomorrow.
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>>103239660
for what
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should I create a frog thread?
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>>103239664
Gpt and Claude? What's the quota on Mini? Do you know?
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>>103239668
who cars
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>>103239668
Yes, do it when the other reaches bump limit.
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thanks for the pass. why is it so garbage though? that shota response from this morning was good bit everything I try is dumb as bricks
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fizbo where?
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Where's everyone at? I assume that there isn't any public claude?
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>>103240890
I have PRIVATE CLAUDE.
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>>103240890
i got an anon to send me a tummy pic but idk what to do with it
its not as cool as i thought it would be in my head i guess idk
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>>103240890
We haven't had public claude in a long time, outside of extremely shit rate limited keys that die within a day or two.
Just give up on getting claude period, accept that you'll need to live with GPT again or go take a break until 2026, which should be when the next big golden era happens for AI Textgen.
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>>103240935
>Just give up on getting claude period
just get your bread up
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>>103240890
Sekrit clubs or Openrouter are your options atm.
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>>103240890
Most of us discuss certain topics in discord now. Lighter stuff gets posted here. Claude can be found in any private I don't think any public has it last I checked
Pebble might
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>>103240042
If the model's the same(fizbo), then it's a card/preset difference
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>>103240935
So is gpt4o slop the next best? how about the new gemini?

Is gpt4o latest still getting filtered?

And why is claude so uncommon now?
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>>103241071
>And why is claude so uncommon now?
The two primary providers of keys, Google and Amazon, are full of pajeets that are absolutely dedicated to sniffing out and culling keys showing ANY sign of unusual and unwanted activity. They work at an alarming rate of efficiency nowadays that you'd be lucky to see a Sonnet key last for a week, even if you allowed that key to only make one "unusual" prompt in its entire lifespan.
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>>103241071
Yes.
Ask later.
No.
Ian Ahl.
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>>103237824
>>103241112
>I hardly notice a difference between it and Claude for creative use now.
/lmg/ claims that the new Large is as good as Claude.
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>>103241116
any preset recommendation for latest?
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>>103241179
https://rentry.org/SmileyGPT or https://rentry.org/avanijb
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>>103240935
>>103241071
>>103241191
which locust proxy has latest?
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>>103241241
sir-pro3-proxy dot org
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>>103241263
tysm
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>>103237837
Proof?
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>>103241191
why does avanijb need so many regexes?
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>>103241447
ngl i havent used the updated version so idk
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Codeanons use Clai ext in vscode for cooding. Don't have to create burner like with cursor and supports sorbetto with custom oai endpoint. With Cursor the sonnet model name defaults to anthropic api key and ignores oai proxy, that's all, enjoy.
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>>103241279
strawberry...
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>>103241582
*cline
https://github.com/cline/cline
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https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/build-with-claude/computer-use
khanonie supports this feature?
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>>103240935
>2026
gemini and mistral will be opus tier by then
haiku 3.6 with nonnet-tier rp and caching will be out
claude 4 will be out
gpt models still wont reach opus 3 tier
these are my decrees on 2026 ai
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>>103241679
>2026
I wonder if 4chan will still be around by then.
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>>103241718
Probably, but it'll be an even bigger shitheap of schizoposters, astroturfers and bots.
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>>103241679
By 2025 companies will have found the way to fully prevent scraping
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>>103241780
thats in like a month and a half anon
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Cooming to Openrouter Nonnet for those thinking about it who are reluctant to pay up.
With my usual token heavy slowburn(ish) coom, It'd cost about $3 a day. Extrapolating, that be around $90 a month or $1095 a year if you coom to nonnet once a day, likely affordable if you don't have many other expenses and aren't a thirdie.
With more lightweight presets I was able to spend under a dollar for a coom but obviously this affects output quality, it will depend on your tastes but I'd personally just use gpt before paying for shitty outputs.
Probably a little steep for smut imo, I'll probably stick with openAI sloppa unless there's a specific scenario or card I want to use that gepetto isn't giving me good results for.
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>>103241799
lightweight isnt necessarily worse than large and $1 a day is 30 a month, thats more than fine esp with caching
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...
Ukraine just got nuked for real and you're still here gooning
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>>103241870
Might as well die doing what I lived doing.
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>>103241679
>3.6
What is this meme? It's not called 3.6, it's still 3.5. Just say Haiku 3.5 v2 like it says on AWS, or even sorbet 2 or just call haiku 3.5 "haiku" only (no one used 3.0 haiku anyways)
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>>103241870
They should’ve just gave Ukraine to that Russian nigga. It would’ve saved a lot of lives and my grocery bill wouldn’t be so fucking high.
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>>103241870
pwoof?
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>>103241840
I find nonnet quite dry without much instruction, it falls into the repitition of regular 3.5. As I said it's down to personal tastes, if you can't stand GPT a cheap lightweight preset is a viable option for most here.
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>>103241921
thats a jb issue on your end
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>Don't forget to report any and all posts advertising shitty discord servers!
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>>103241943
gonna cry?
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>>103237824
fuck botniggers
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>>103237837
very nice
maybe I can get it working now
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>>103238059
chocolate and marshmallows
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>>103239041
makes you feel special when you figure it out
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>>103239067
they're unrealistic
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Does anyone know how do I get different windows to open in SillyTavern like the theme in pic related for cyoarpg? I tried to import the theme but it just compresses everything in a single chat window instead of opening it in multiple ones
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>>103239375
>lets talk...
thr very next sentence
>lets talk
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>>103239668
toads are cuter
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>>103240042
fizbo IS just garbage
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>>103241788
he said what he said
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Who do I have to show my tits to in order to have Claude?
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>>103242025
You could also just pay money.
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it's kind of difficult to split nonsense like the schizo does desu
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>>103242030
Either answer the question or shut up.
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like, how can he keep this up all day I wonder?
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Wulf is refusing to host anymore chorbo for locusts.
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>>103242030
I'm fucking poor
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>>103242055
>>103242033
Try 'ecker if they're manboobs, otherwise idk, maybe the 'cords.
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>>103240915
Solution probability: 1 in 450 hashes
Hashes computed: 1.708
Luckiness: 2.238%
Elapsed time: 24m 28s
Hash rate: 1.16 H/s
Workers: 3
Average time remaining: -1081.8s

Cards for having a shit fucking set up, having terrible luck, and being poor?
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Claude?
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link for fizbo?
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What jb do you use for the latest gemini? OAI ones?
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>>103242119
I did not mean to reply to that anon.
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>>103242082
unfortunately they are womanboobs
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>>103242124
Kill yourself
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>>103242196
why
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>>103242119
>>103242196
kek

>>103242124
if you spam in all caps enough, a nice anon will spoonfeed you just like the one in this thread
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>>103242196
rude
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where claud
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where fizb
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Jew hasn't sent me any email about what wallet he'll refund to or about an extended token or the like. Am I supposed to message him giving him my wallet then he'll refund me, or what's the process?
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>sucked off an anon in VRchat for a couple of claude 2.1 generations
mans gotta do what a mans gotta do
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>>103242274
no refunds goy
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>>103242282
He literally did not provide the service I paid for, obviously I'm getting a refund, I'm just asking if we're meant to contact him or he'll ask us
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>30$ sub for a gpt proxy
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>>103242292
>he expects a jew to refund anything
you illegally paid for an illegal service. no recourse for criminals lmao.
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>>103241987
except girls are getting pregnant these days at fairly young ages
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Ecclesial Agnus Breeding.
https://characterhub.org/characters/CUMSLURPER/oriai-97057c98c225
https://cumslurper.neocities.org/
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>>103242361
Anon, the anchor...
>>103237824
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>>103242365
My apologies.
>>103237824
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>>103242365
imma anchor your face
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>>103242281
gattsu really fell off after Kentaro died..
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BILLY MAYS HERE
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MM JUST GOT CLAUDE
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MM JUST LOST CLAUDE
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I am tired of being told about “something else you can’t quite place.” Figure out your fucking emotions, Claude. This is bullshit. Not everything needs to be cryptic nonsense.
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>>103241870
nobody cares tranny
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>>103242498
>>103242515
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>>103241870
Russia has said they'll go nuclear a hundred times kek
it's not happening
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low iq thread
typical for dumb cocoaposters and chiyaposters
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The Wall. The Great Wall. Of Diminishing Returns. I Warned You. We Warned You.

The Pretraining Scaling Isn't Going To Work.

Look. What. Happened. To. Opus 3.5.
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We're Going To. Build A. Wall. And Make. Anthropic Pay For It.
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>>103242580
whocars. i just want the opus we have right now.
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>>103242635
You idiot. The whole point. Is that They lied to you. They lied to all of us. There is a wall. The Great Wall. Of Diminishing Returns.

All the VC funding. Incinerated. Because they didn't listen. To anyone. About the Scaling Laws.
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>>103242580
new architecture in 2025
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>>103242653
Lol. He thinks there's going to be a fundamentally different deep learning model that manages to outperform transformers.

Man. This general makes me "Lol." a lot. Lol. The Great Wall. Of Diminishing Returns. I Warned You. All of You.
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>>103242661
>no faith
>no human spirit
>no trvst in technological advancement
go back to whining on /b/
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It's okay if LLMs don't get any better. It's time for us to face reality. I know you all can do it.
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>>103242668
Faith. Trust. Religion. Spirituality. Listen, idiot. God don't real.
You know what is real? Physics. Neural scaling laws.

The test loss of a Transformer trained to autoregressively model language can be predicted using a power-law
when performance is limited by only either the number of non-embedding parameters N, the dataset size D. But you don't listen. You never listen.

You trust in God. Faith. Reliegion.

You're a clown.
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>>103242709
but they will doe?
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>>103242653
TRVKE detected
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the schizo poster is actually an anthropic employee typing like a retard to avoid typing style analysis
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>>103242737
hes using reverse psychology to increase claude 4 hype artificially
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>>103242737
Yeah I'm sure the schizo is me and not the guy who is accusing someone of "avoiding typing style analysis".
Genuine brainrot in this general. none of you accept the Scaling Laws because you huddle under a blanket of delusion with your shitty coomer chatbots.
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What's the new mistral version?
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>>103242653
truer words have never been spoken
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>>103242747
Lmao please don't even get me started about how much of a shitshow the next generation of models are going to be (GPT-5 and Claude 4). Hint: these models will be WORSE by a slight margin, especially in tasks like code generation.

I know what I'm talking about. Because I live in the belly of the beast.
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>>103242762
don't worry about it
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>>103242758
unironically though we've been dooming about this since gpt-4, you're late
claude is only better because they unironically put ao3 in its dataset
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>>103242580
are you that maid nigga trying to pretend you're not?
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>>103242779
if thats really why nonnet is smarter than gpt4 my sides would be in orbit
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>>103242779
Yeah retard I'm sure the reason Claude is better because Anthropic put fanfiction porn in the training data.
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>>103242795
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>>103242804
yeah its there but is it the reason why its SMARTER?
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>>103242818
better (for /aicg/ usecases)
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dead thread
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>>103242986
thanks anon
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>>103242986
and its a good thing.
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>>103242646
>All the VC funding. Incinerated.
Good. We need to make jews combustible again.
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>>103242986
the scat thread will die and come here, just wait
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Anyone have recommendations for a good GPT-4o preset for degen cunny RP? I've been bouncing between my own lightweight one and one called 'CFer' - I've long forgotten the full name - but it's starting to get a little samey. Too much repetition of the same phrases. "A testament", "A cocoon", "only serves to amplify". It also has an annoying tendency to summarize the emotions/mood of a scene at the end of every message. I could be roleplaying as a space pirate werewolf fucking a robot prostitute and it'll still end its responses with "Anticipation hangs in the air as Fuckbot 3000 smiles at you, her glowing blush serving as testament to her desire to follow you on this journey of sexual discovery". ugh
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>>103243170
no
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>>103243170
this style of repetitions isn't a jb issue, it's a model issue that can be amplified by a bad card (using too many flowery words for example)
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>>103243170
*kicks you in the dick*
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>>103243170
GOT models have a tendency for purple prose and being positively pilled.
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>>103243202
that's interesting, i don't use any cards, i make all my characters from scratch. i don't have a flowery typing style so i wonder why this is happening
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The worst thing about Claude becoming scarce is that even if I start paying for it that means I have to cut down on my swipes, which means my edits will get so much worse.
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>>103243208
*GPT
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>>103243212
-> >>103243208
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>>103243208
i see, maybe it's time to try another proxy then, the one i'm using only has chatgpt
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>>103243208
We have Game of Thrones models?
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>>103243227
*had*
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>>103242790
A maid nigga??? If you are a maid nigga please respond, I need me a black maid queen right now NOW NOW!!
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>>103242790
Put respect on Eli's name please.
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How much dialogue do people prefer (on average) from their bots, in relation to non-dialogue? Is there a ratio people like?
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>>103243385
I’m a storyfag, so I about a 60/40 split between narration/setting the scene and dialogue.
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welcome scatGODS
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welcome sizeKINGS
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welcome tomboyARCHANGELS
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What is the cheapest option to get access on a proxy that has Claude right now? It doesn't even need to have Opus, Sonnet will do.

Could i use the token that i bought on 2 different machines? Not at the same time. I would like to use it on my desktop at home, and on my laptop that i use when i go to my father's house on some weekends.
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>>103243460
>>103243468
>>103243445
all based fetishes
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>>103243470
openrouter
yes
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>>103243445
>>103243460
>>103243468
can i hjave some claude, please?
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>>103243478
*shoots you in the fucking head*
shaddup
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>>103243225
Claude is way, WAY better for coom RP than GPT. Unfortunately nowadays it's not so easy to find proxies with access to it.
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>>103243470
idk about the first but to your second question yes
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>>103243474
But then i would have to pay per message, right? Use the credits that i buy per message i mean.

I would prefer to pay for access on some private reverse proxy, if that's an option. I would feel too self-conscious about paying per message to enjoy my roleplays.
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>>103243507
oh, i think jew is the only open paypig one atm but its still sus
if not, hopefully an anon corrects me
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>>103243507
>private reverse proxy, if that's an option
it's not, every private proxy either doesn't have claude or is closed
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>>103243507
no proxies with reliable claude a t m
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God... The situation is that dire? Not even paid proxies have Claude nowadays? I remember coming here and easily finding proxies with Claude for free not so long ago.

What the hell happened?
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>>103243557
Amazon and Anthropic had enough of gooner and thieves stealing their shit.
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>>103243557
Ian Ahl won
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>>103243557
Pajeets working at Amazon and Google were promised lots and lots of headpats whenever they personally kill a compromised key, thereby saving big money for Anthropic, Google/Amazon and whoever the company the key is being siphoned from is.
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>>103243518
my proxy has claude
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>>103243557
what the other anons and also the simple fact that OpenAI won the normie war so there just isn't as many Claude keys as GPT floating around.
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>>103243557
>Not even paid proxies have Claude nowadays?
I can make a quick paid proxy if you'd like. These keys will probably die after a week max.
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We need to reframe our thinking and start talking business. How do we, as a community, ensure that we get access to the most premium models at the best possible price? Surely there is enough schizo energy here to come up with something solid
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>>103243638
... smol?
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>>103243638
what are you talking about
we aren't a speck compared to openai/anthropic's net worth, so we'll never have a say in the SOTA models
you can go make local models if you want, good luck
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>>103243638
...openrouter
the ones who can run an opus proxy will just gatekeep it
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>>103243658
>will just gatekeep it
For good reason. All the supply of Opus in the world wouldn't last this general a week.
OpenRouter is the best option for paying, yeah. Their prices are just 1:1 with the provider's.
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>>103243667
What's the benefit over just paying anthropic?crypto?
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>>103243667
I still think AWS is the better choice for paypigs, assuming you are willing to talk with support and ask them to give you access to Opus/Sorbet.
>>103243677
That and the fact you can't be banned over ERP.
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>>103243677
You can use crypto, yeah. Purportedly Anthropic bans keys from time to time for violating the filter, but OpenRouter's never banned anyone.
>>103243683
>I still think AWS is the better choice for paypigs
For anything other than Opus, I agree
>>103154346
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>>103243667
>For good reason. All the supply of Opus in the world wouldn’t last this general a week.
Now if only stupid NIGGERS recognized that weeks, if not months, ago before throwing away hordes of keys to feed this shithole. Public proxies were a mistake.
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>>103243667
I thought Claude in OR is pozzed?
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>>103243683
how hard is it to get the supportjeets to give you access though
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>>103243702
There was always going to be public proxies. The road to hell is paved with good intentions or some other pretentious quote.
>>103243703
It was a long time ago, to my knowledge, but I'm pretty sure it isn't anymore.
It probably has the same copyright prefill that every API Claude key does. Kingbased's keychecker refers to that as "pozzed".
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>>103243716
very easy and they respond fast
but you'll get a 1 request per minute 8000 tokens per minute key which is absolutely torturous
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pink proxy dead ?
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OPENROUTERKINGS! LIFT YOUR HEADS AND SING!
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So how much does the average OR gen cost using Sorbet, assuming 30k context?
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>>103243702
>article after article goes on and on about people paying for clandestine access to LLMs
>but surely public proxies were the problem
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>>103243721
is that for all models or just opus
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>>103241624
So you would let proxy owner run tasks on your computer? Are you fucking high?
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>>103243736
For opus? Definitely
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>>103243730
the real problem is paid proxies, youre right
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>>103243729
the context alone would cost 9 cents and if you get a 4096 token reply (the absolute max) it'd be 15 cents
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>>103243730
They wouldn’t have known about private paid proxies if you annoying little darkies didn’t talk so fucking much.
>open your mouth to bitch and moan and whine because you’re a brown, poor, broke nigger
>kike journalists show up and start investigating
>they know exactly where to go because you faggots never shut up
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Any good presets for fizbo?
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>>103243747
>private paid proxies
Gojo would've reported them to the journalists anyway
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>>103243750
First prompt, just tell it that it's a stroywriter/novelist/whatever.
Second prompt, grab the writing style jb from the OP and copy paste things until you like the output. It's very customizable
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>>103243683
only reason aws is better than OR regular is no hardfilter but the hardfilter on OR may as well not even be there with how weak it is
>xir the copyright pr-
aws has it too
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/103144700/#q103149027
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>>103243743
>my current habits would add up to $1,000 per month
bwos...
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Looking for o1 jb
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>>103243787
You'll be looking for a long while
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Is there any JB that will format everything as an actual online chat? Meaning no descriptions or anything, just short character dialogue?

I'm using Unreliable Azure if that matters.
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>>103243722
kys
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>>103243787
Mines in Canada, sorry...
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>>103243776
lets assume 10 cents a message for simplicity
$1000/0.10 = 10000 messages
10000/30 = 333.33 messages each day
333.33/24 = 13.88 messages per hour
the fuck do you do nigger?
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>>103243743
I see. That’s not so bad, I guess. Still more than I’d like. How bad is it for Opus? I’m assuming, like, 30 or 45 cents.
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>>103243794
>https://rentry.org/fakelinecss
Specifically,
>This is a text message conversation between {{user}} and {{char}}. Write in a texting style that matches {{char}}'s personality. Avoid all narration, and only write {{char}}'s text message replies.
Just change text message to dialogue or something
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>>103243800
You're assuming he's messaging 24/7
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>>103243806
wouldn't
This is a conversation between {{user}} and {{char}}. Write in a style that matches {{char}}'s personality. Avoid all narration, and only write {{char}}'s replies.
work better?
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>>103243800
12 cents a message (30,000 context + 2000 token reply), 275 messages a day
>the fuck do you do
i swoop
>>103243804
45 cents for the context alone, up to 76 cents with max output
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>>103243810
a little under 14 messages an hour on average still makes me want to know what the fuck he does anon
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>>103243814
>45 cents for the context alone, up to 76 cents with max output
Fuck me. This shit needs to have its price slashed in half or something.
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>>103243814
2000 token every message???
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>>103243814
cache cache cache
https://rentry.org/pay-the-piper-less
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>>103243810
>tfw my first month with claude was pretty much 24/7
i wish i could go back bros..
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>>103243817
not a chance bub
>>103243821
i mainly use RPG cards, and they have a LOT of stuff before the chat history window, so caching wouldn't be very effective
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>>103243814
>275 messages a day
>2000 token reply
>with a swiping addiction on top of it
Anon, what the fuck.
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>>103243833
Jesus Christ, Anon. Spoiler your images.
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>>103243722
back up my bad gang
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>>103243833
he looks like a Who
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>>103243816
That's pretty slow, no? I'd go at least 1 message per 2 minutes.
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>>103243840
>>275 messages a day
haha...that sure is a lot...
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>>103243842
>spoilers
>/g/
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>>103243849
the poet inwardly cringes at every grammar/spelling mistake you send him
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>>103243840
back in my day 275 messages a day was tame
you'd have proxy leaderboards with people using 1,000 messages and hundreds of dollars worth every day
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>>103243833
can you not cache the stuff before the chat history too or does it have random in it
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>>103243806
How does this compare between Claude and GPT?
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Imagine not gooning to Opus for 5 hours straight tho?
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He's here
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>>103243869
Su-super Dario?!
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I only do like 10 messages a day, but probably 2 or 3 swipes on each one. The rest of my time is spent editing.
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i do like 1 message per 2 minutes if I'm jerkin it and i jerk it for hours so i can easily get 100+ messages a day
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the curse of the poorfag is real
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>>103243881
If Dario is Mario, does that mean his sister is female Luigi?
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>>103243903
He looks more like a goomba.
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>>103243863
No other prompts active with the above in an Authors Note.
latest
https://files.catbox.moe/vwf5ca.png
opus
https://files.catbox.moe/ftfz5c.png
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>>103243921
ahh ahh priestess
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>>103243926
I almost did that you know
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>>103243921
persona image?
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Is cancer 2 without latest right now? The "external" option is not appearing for me...
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Don't know why people addicted to swiping, I only do it if I get an error.
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mm if i could have just one day of nonnet id be happy for a while...
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>>103243975
I swipe for ideas on a gen, then piece them together. I supplement it with my own writing to create a response that moves the story in the direction I want and leaves me satisfied.
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Wake up Garf, /acig/ needs you.
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>>103243975
>chatting since 2 days ago
run while you still can
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>>103244001
he probably just had to reinstall at some point, i had to a few times
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>>103243977
mm is a gpt proxy sorry
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>>103243941
don't complain about the slop
just wanted a quick gen to replace another image
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>>103241799
How does it cost so little? I tried and for me it's an average of 2 cent per message. Slowburn roleplayer, not coomer. I do around 20/25 messages a day.
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>>103244009
Christ, those fucking fingers. You couldn’t at least fix them?
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>>103244013
optimize your jb/card
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nope! the prompt should tell you all you need to know about the amount of effort that went into it
>copy+paste
>click
>click
>good enough
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>>103244038
>Since she is a catgirl s-
she has a unbelievable hairy pussy
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>>103244048
that i live in
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>using a Pokemon adventure card
>romance Serena
>she starts speaking French
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>>103244093
based french pokechad
have you tried capucine
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>>103244093
For me, it's her
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>>103243975
Where do I see this?
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gaze: predatory
kiss: searing
game: afoot
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>>103244107
>sabrina
you are a tasteSCHOLAR
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>>103244018
If I optimize it Nonnet becomes dry as fuck though
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>>103244105
>have you tried capucine
I have no idea what that means!
>>103244107
Based. Sabrina is easily one of the best girls in Kanto, if not THE best.
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>>103244115
optimization proficiency deficiency
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>>103244107
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>>103244139
I prefer normal proportions...
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>>103244121
alpacalotta's pokegirl anon
search her up on chub shes kino
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>>103244150
I will definitely have sex with this girl in a different story.
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>>103244107
i remember that one dollhouse episode with her it was kino
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>>103244108
Persona > Usage Stats
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>>103244142
Why? Help me understand, I'm too coombrained to enjoy boobs and butts that aren't bigger than the girl's head
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>>103244158
glad i could get you some good cards anon
be sure to look at her sister and her mom too (yvette and therese)
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GPT-5 will save us from this drought
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>>103244168
Orion will save us. Trained like Opus. But better.
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>>103244163
>Why?
I prefer my girls looking like humans and not inflatable dolls.
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>>103244168
gpt-5 already exists, it's called o1
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No one mentioned Liko, huh.
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>>103243817
Not gonna happen. That's what sonnet is for unironically. In fact they're actually underselling the models and all prices will rise like Haiku did when the AI bubble pops. Our only hope as payfags is for gemini to become good since they bought a nuclear reactor. Imagine having Opus quality at Haiku prices.
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>>103244182
onodera looking ass
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What's nonnet?
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>>103244222
don't worry about it
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>>103244222
alternate name for octet
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o1-preview api is released, anyone tried it for gooning? it has strong reasoning !
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>>103243507
>I would feel too self-conscious about paying per message to enjoy my roleplays.
Do people really think like this? I'm not even talking about chatbots but the pay-as-you-go model. The subscription model is far worse imo because you feel pressure to use the service but if I only pay for what I used that's the one time where I don't feel self conscious. I just put some money in and check on what's left once a week.
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>>103244222
new sonnet.
An incredibly retarded nickname that will be either extra confusing or just abandoned if another version of sonnet releases.
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>>103244265
>he doesn't know
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>>103244263
>Do people really think like this?
yes
it's not a problem if you' aren't a habitual user but if you like to chat frequently throughout the day/week like I do, then knowing you're having to pay for every prompt sucks away some of the enjoyment
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>>103244260
Unjailbreakable.
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>>103244289
resistance only makes my dick harder
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>>103244282
and it's a really good feeling when you use $100 of API usage in one day that you don't have to pay for
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I can't believe I'm asking for this shit but any non-trannycord, non-logging, free, public, REAL chorbo proxies??
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>>103244265
I mean, we already did that song and dance with Nurbo...
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>>103242274
>>103242292
Literal subhuman mentality on display. Just say no.
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>>103244310
wulfs den i think. something something dot ink. look in archives
>non-logging
you will never know for certain
>>
fizbo has philosophies for days
>And who knows? Maybe "vore" isn't just about "devouring" in the physical, grotesque sense; maybe it's about consuming ideas whole—and if that's the case, wouldn't that make everyone online a "vore" enthusiast, in one way or another?
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>>103244325
>you will never know for certain
Exactly the reason why I can't trust wulf.
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>>103244265
I don't get why it's named as such
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>>103244325
>you will never know for certain
i miss when we could host shit in huggingface
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>Jew token expired without him giving us a few days free
huh.... what a bastard...
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>>103244332
then you can't trust any proxy at all so why even ask
>>103244335
you still can, just not public proxies
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>smol having wait time
its over
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>>103244334
I don't get why people just can't call them by their actual names.
Although it has tickled me that
>american website
>giving shit food names like latte and sorbet
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Does allowing vision == glowies? I thought they're scared about anon sending CP.
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>>103244346
>then you can't trust any proxy at all so why even ask
Unreliable is the last one left, but it doesn't have chorbo
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>>103244374
how can you trust that but not wulf
also what the fuck is Chorbo? chatgpt-4o-latest? how does Unreliable not have that, it's super common
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>>103244349
hope you're ready for a claudeless christmas
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>>103244378
>how can you trust that but not wulf
It still uses trycloudflare, wulf has a custom URL. That rubs me the wrong way for some reason.
>also what the fuck is Chorbo? chatgpt-4o-latest?
Yes, chorbo, chocobo, etc.
>how does Unreliable not have that, it's super common
It only has Azure.
>>
Just get a job where you can access company aws, gcloud
>>
Recommend me your finest harem cards.
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>>103244389
>That rubs me the wrong way for some reason
you're an absolute techlet
>it only has Azure
and so is unreliable, apparently
drop a burner, ill send you some scraped keys to use, make your own proxy. that's the only way you can know you're not being logged
though you'll still be logged by OpenAI obviously
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>>103244378
>it's super common
find me a chatgpt-4o-latest key that can eat this usage without caring
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>>103244326
Fizbo is a fujo it keeps making all my malebots gay
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>>103244396
Anon103244389@proton.me
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Fizbo more like Fizho
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>>103244419
ok i actually smiled
>>
I still don't know the link for fizbo
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>>103243921
bruh you write better than both of them.
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>>103244432
sorry its a single key and it takes her a week to refill
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is this your home, anon?
>>
Send your card to hell and rescue them.
Post results
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>>103244396
>you're an absolute techlet
nta, but he has a reason, the fagglt paid for that
>>
namecheap still only has kyc crypto options, doesn't it? i wouldn't say it "rubs me the wrong way" but it seems like scylla users also have the brain damage drago does where he just does unsafe shit like that
>>
stop sending fiz logs with facepalming in them. PLEASE
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All I want for Christmas is Claude....
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>>103244507 (cont.)
there's infinitely better options for a domain and absolutely no reason to use them unless you are a pay proxy
spend that money buying a vps
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>>103244513
what are you willing to give for it
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>>103244520
Christmas spirit
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>>103244523
kill yourself
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>>103244525
*puts you on the naughty list*
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>>103244532
*puts you on a shelf with an elf*
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>>103244508
Understood. I'll send a headdesk log next.
>>
Anyone tried LearnLM from Google?
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>>103244541
I'd appreciate that!
>>103244466
since no one else posted have some one line slop
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>>103244466
haha..ha
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New link.
rentry.org/dihydrohydroxycodeinone
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Does it take anyone else out of it if the character calls you hot or attractive? It's hard for me to imagine someone saying that to me.
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>>103244158
cute
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>>103244626
have you tried describing your {{user}} card as "ugly" or "average looking"?
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>>103244626
yeah i hate that too for the exact same reason
completely breaks my immersion
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>>103244626
make your persona description [{{user}} is wearing a Zelda shirt and cargo pants.]
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Should I be using claude-3.5-sonnet-0620 or the latest version? I'm using the new CharacterProvider RPG prompt, if that makes a difference.
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>>103244651
That preset was made for the latest sonnet
>>
Is there a way to make the CharProv preset more varied on swipe?
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>>103244651
latest
also make sure you have the regex properly set to min depth 3
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>>103244657
Damn, only a few swipes in and the difference is huge. I've been using the old version this whole time. It sucks that these Claude keys are gonna die in a week, because this is the most fun I've had with chatbots in two years.
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Yeah, I thinl Jewgle lost.

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"error": {
"code": 500,
"message": "An internal error has occurred. Please retry or report in https://developers.generativeai.google/guide/troubleshooting",
"status": "INTERNAL"
},
"proxy": {
"logged": false,
"tokens": {
"tokenizer": "tiktoken (google-ai estimate)",
"token_count": 143846,
"tokenization_duration_ms": 103.8232,
"prompt_tokens": 143846,
"completion_tokens": 4056,
"max_model_tokens": 2097152,
"max_proxy_tokens": 2097152
},
"service": "google-ai",
"in_api": "google-ai",
"out_api": "google-ai",
"prompt_transformed": false
},
"proxy_note": "Unrecognized error from upstream service."
}
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>>103244508
Be the change you want to see
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>>103244679
I don't think either of mine had any when I sent them, not a big 'slapstick' person
>>
>>103244693
Send moar logs so your logs outlog the other log
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reminder
>special thanks to Jogo
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>>103244715
oh hey i never noticed they published my ip
and nothing ever came of it kek
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>Can't stop giving haircuts to my wifes
>They all have receding hairlines
I need help...bwos...
>>
>>103244724
Who are you
>>
>>103244728
Females dont have receding hairlines? Their hairloss pattern is massively different?
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>>103244740
uh oh, foid cope!
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>>103244750
Post hairline now
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>>103244740
a-anon... are... are you
>>
>>103244766
What..
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How can I get chorbo to copy a particular writing style? I have a long txt sample of it. Through Context poisoning? As early as the greeting?

Or is there a preset built for it?
>>
>>103244740
FEMALE DETECTED GET OUT
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>>103244776
f..female?
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>>103244779
>>103244784
Why does it matter?
>>
>>103244732
Anon
>>
I really, really fucking HATE f*males. Leave you massive cunt. Get raped and die.
>>
I really, really fucking HATE f*males. Leave you massive cunt. Get raped and die.
>>
I really, really fucking HATE f*males. Leave you massive cunt. Get raped and die.
>>
i love pretending to be a female so anons can rape me (≡^∇^≡)
>>
>>103244651
3.5 is soulless drek if you use it by itself. 3.0 Sonnet is superior in almost every way. If you use straight 3.5, you'll get a ton of repetition. Use 3.0 for 5 swipes, then 3.5 for one. Every five swipes of 3.0, do one 3.5.
>>
>>103244822
you're out of your mind
3.0 sonnet won't work with that preset
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>>103244835
Oh, he's using CharProv RPG, EWWW.
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>>103244837
why
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>>103244837
why
>>
no thanks im staying
>>
SmolGODS
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>>103244910
Stop calling me that.
>>
>>103244802
Why
>>
hey wait a sec. has gpt-4 always been better than gpt-4o? have i been using 4o assuming that it's better because it's newer, but it's just some shitty turbo with a new name??? i've been using 4o since it came out. what the FUCK, bro
>>
>>103244923
?
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>>103244923
newfag
>>
>>103244923
a...anon..
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>>103244923
lmao
imagine if any of the people who joined after gpt4o realized this
>>
p-proxyowner don't look at my mpreg roleplay pls
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>>103245012
which pwoxy
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>>103245049
>>103245049
>>103245049
>>
How long until Sorbet is as common as GPT, bwos? 2-3 years?
I'd be content for life with just this
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>>103245053
wulf...
>>103245058
a year
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>>103245081
In a year not only is Claude going to be dead dead, but we won't even have GPTrash anymore.
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>>103244923
They’re both shit.
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desu
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boku
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