I don't need a UPS. My power grid is perfectly sta-
Like any leftist, 4channers will lie about anything to try to trick you. Replies to this thread will be full of "hurrdurr what 3rd world country do you live in the lights have stayed on for the entire 8 years of my existence", and they're all bullshit.
>>103245632https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well
Has anyone even had a catastrophic blackout and lost all of his files? Because I know no one.
>>103245708It can happen, but it's not the "blackout" part that does it: it's the "massive power surge that caused the blackout" that fries your disk - and it happened to me in 1996 with a 2GB hard disk (a decent, though rapidly-declining in currency, drive at the time).
Unless you have consistent power outages in your area, you're better off with a surge protector instead.
>>103245726You don't need a UPS for that, a surge protector works just fine, rest is handled by the PSU and mobo nowadays
>>103245799>>103245819Surge protectors do nothing against brownouts.
>>103245618>consumes 20W for no reasonI'm sure my RAID6 ZFS is robust enough against outages.
>>103245842Bullshit. My surge pr
>>103245858>worrying about $5 of extra electricity bill per year
>>103245842>Notice lights dimming>Unplug PC, and the rest of your electronics, line you should be doing
>>103245868more like per month in this faggot country
>>103245618oh wow, op was still able to enter captcha and post after energy supplier cut the lines because of unpaid bills
>>103245819I don't think you realize how easy it is to fry a MO. Some chips are modular and can just be swapped out. But if you're unlucky you've got to replace the MO. Computers are expensive AF, it can be worth it.
>>103245992I live in an area with frequent thunderstorms and strong wind, blackouts are common, my PC still hasn't fried itself even after the amount of bullshit it went through. I'm not even gambling anything here, modern PSUs and mobos have good protections
>>103245861how did you fill the captcha and submit if the power went ou
>>103245618We have them all over at the factory i work at. I just take home new batteries every year lol. Oh and I also snagged the ups I have now from work lol.
>>103245799>consistent power outagesWhat about random power outages?
>>103245632Have you tried not living in a shithole?
>>103245632yeah its demoralizers
>>103245842>Surge protectors do nothing against brownouts.This. Snowpocalypse '22 in Texas killed my PSU on the first night. Brownouts became blackout for about a week. Beaners lost their shit, gringos lost their shit, and the mayates were too cold to engage in crime.
>started setting up home lab stuff the other week>talking to friend about it>mentions I should get a UPS>tell him he's right but laugh because I haven't seen a power outage in like 5 years>next night had 3 within an hourIt was kinda spooky desu
>>103245632>Like any leftist, 4channers will lie about anything to try to trick youI think you're confusing them with the GOP...
>>103245618I use inverters. Cleans up the power. Reduces data leakage over power. I've had 3 APC units just like that one literally burst into flames because they were on California PG&E power.
>finally buy a UPS after having multiple instances of having multihour power outages in complete dark>power works flawlessly in the 3 years sinceBig UPS™ is causing select outage events in order to drive product sales. I'm on to your jewish tricks.
>>103245618I use one of these for my 3d printerworks great
>>103247599>Big UPS™ is causing select outage events in order to drive product sales.Take your meds. I bet you think Internet providers selectively throttle your connection too.
>>103245618Pacific NW here (not like there's a Pacific NE or anything but hwatever) gonna be a lot of people buying them at costco this week I'll bet.I have one that protects my nas, router, & modem. Probably switches in around 6 times a year for brownouts, and a blackout every couple years. Well worth the $50 - 100. You don't really need much capacity, just enough to safely power down the nas and keep the network up when there's an actual blackout.
>>103250695When I was in California I had to switch to a full time inverter. Their power spikes would blow up those cheap UPS, especially the ones that have a "power conditioner". Inverter on the other hand just runs off big batteries and I used a switching power supply to keep them charged. That could handle any giganigasm-spikes PG&E could throw my way. On top of that they would shut off the power for 8 to 24 hours any time it got windy for a "Power Safety Power Shutoff"https://pgealerts.alerts.pge.com/psps-updates/7day/
>>103250743PG&E is pretty shitty aren't they? Like, I remember them murdering people with gas leaks and power line fires because of mismanagement.Anyway, that's a good point, it always depends on your circumstances. I haven't had that problem up here but it will probably start happening soon as things get shittier.
I only use a small UPS with my NAS.And only to let it shut down gracefully after a couple of minutes.My main concern is RAID errors leading to long rebuild times, which is something I had a few time when I had a RAID 5 in my PC.It might not be necessary but it's not expensive.
If you are that worried, just get a laptop since it already has a battery backup by design.
>>103250695Same. Do you have a sinewave model?
>>103251020200 IQ post right here folks.
>>103245632>they're all bullshitOnly some of them. Some people genuinely have good power. Guess it helps if your power isn't vulnerable to random squirrels deciding to self-immolate.
>>103251042nope I have a APC BE550 that's 7 years old, and I just replaced the battery because it started beeping at me.
>>103246589>>103247498Is Biden still as sharp as a tack?When are you moving to Canada?
>>103251251Jesus fucking Christ. I hope your equipment is safe.
>>103253189oops, I lied, it's actually been going strong for a little over 9 years. With a Synology DS215 running on it. I can't believe the original battery lasted that long. I'm sure the replacement will crap out sooner.I've read about square wave sensitivity for some new power supplies but I guess this is old enough that it doesn't matter.
If you actually have blackouts why don't you consider picrel?Never seen UPSs here, only off-the-grid systems in rich peoples houses.t. firstie
>>103245819Why not have both?
>>103246049Cease asking questions goyi
>>103253296I'm planning to move to solar gradually, one panel at a time.
>>103245858ur playing with fire. you still dont want the os to crash in the middle of writing data, like if you are saving a file or such. zfs wont save you from that, and also it can still get corrupted from sudden power failures
>>103253323>solarYes, everyone calls it "solar" here too. Even though the solar part is completely optional and doesn't do the magic.
>>103253357That's the part that provides the power, buddy.
I have a ups for my internet router and my phone charger/alarm clock and my desktop.The power goes out occasionally for some reason or another, but I got tired of that being my problem.
>>103245618I don't use a UPS for 'blackouts', that's why I had a whole house propane Generac installed. UPS is there to power condition, especially during weather events, and sustain power until the gen starts up and the panel switches.I'll consider solar too, in a few years, once I see how the two installs of my nearest neighbors went that used two different companies.
>>103245632Anyone who can even pretend that the power doesn't go off AT LEAST once year has to be a northern European or an American living in a rectangular state with zero serious storms or earthquakes - and he also lives in a city where the grid lines are underground. So yeah, most of them are larping retards.>>103245708I don't have to lose all my files to consider a UPS. It is enough to lose the current state I'm in while using the computer. I also want my internet connection to stay alive as long as possible during blackouts. There's also the issue of bursts/chains of quick blackouts that can fuck your computer up.
>>103245618Speaking of UPS, is it okay to have a setup like this:>wall > ups > power strip > computer
>>103253618Sure, if you got nothing but solar panels, Google/DuckSearch "MPPT".You can have grid power, batteries, solar and a generator all you like. Usual idea is to use exchange electricity which is cheap during night time, charge batteries with it and then use it during daytime. OR if you don't use anything during the daytime you get to sell the cheap electricity back to the grid - assumed that's a possibility.tl;dr with batteries you get to use cheap electricity even during the day
>>103250819Yes blowing up an entire neighborhood was fucked up, all from not documenting where someone did shitty welds and not maintaining the pipes. On the other hand they have taken the fall for some arsonists that burnt down massive areas of California. AM radio started to talk about a few of the arsonists that were caught and then literally went radio silent about it. Not sure why they were willing to take the fall.
if you are Australian without ups you ngmi
>>103256595pls, bros
>>103249471It's clear he was joking you fucking retard. It seems like Big Autism™ is sending more people like you to demoralize us into thinking we're surrounded by socially retarded faggots, when we're all empathetic trans social butterflies.
>>103245708I'm in the US. Yesterday, the electric company went down the street replacing electric poles. They must of hit a snag because they turned off and locked out the electricity for the street at the breaker. We were unexpectedly without power for about 4 hours.All my stuff is on a UPS because I'm in a semi-rural area and we lose power once or twice a year. Flickers are far more common.Anyway, despite everything on a UPS, it all went down.I have a tower with proxmox running xpenology. When I go through the trouble of setting that back up, I have to remove the boot drive and once proxmox is running, insert the boot drive and run the VM. I have a VOIP system which needs to be reinitialized before I have my phones back.Boo hoo. I'm used to that.Yesterday, I lost a tower. It's stuck loading. Everything is backed up, but power outages are real and a pain in the ass.
>>103245632>my personality is being republican
>>103245708A UPS is more so you have time to save your progress when the power goes out. If you're wfh, a student, or do personal projects, then you're going to want one.
>>103245618Thinking about buying picrel (CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD3 Intelligent LCD UPS System, 1500VA/900W, 12 Outlets, 2 USB Ports, AVR, Mini Tower, Black). Are UPCs like these worth it?
>>103258241Cyberpower is generally a good brand. I have their CP1600EPFCLCD and I'm very happy with it.
my job was give UPS away like candy. i have 8 tripplights in my house, i got one hooked up to every console. i even hooked up my stove and microwave to one so they wouldnt loose time after a power outage.
>>103258358Is it cool to use power strips with UPS? Wall > UPS > power strip kind of scenario.
>>103258393bump
>>103258393makes no difference. What matters it the total load you put on it.
>>103258393Here's what APC has to say about it -https://www.apc.com/us/en/faqs/FA158852/
>>103259377>surge protectorsThere is a difference, anon.
>>103259377If they didn't want us using lifesavers like picrel, they wouldn't crowd the outlets making them impossible for all the odd shaped adapters.
>>103257354>>103256595Yes of course you dummy.
>>103247523>I use invertersCan you 'splain more? That's an interesting idea.t. Seattle area anon who just went through a power out event (approx 2 days) and when power came back up, there were several up/down events, currently re-evaluating my power supply / UPS posture
>>103260983Thank you anon
>>103257441>4 hoursHow many fucking UPS do you have to daisy chain in order to survive 4 hours of downtime?
>>103261255Before you go and buy shit you don't need on Cyber Monday, ask yourself if you're going to spend big on the UPS or on the entire power setup overall. Because it's possible to spend big on a very good UPS and cheap out on power strips and adapters. Personally I would never buy a UPS that doesn't allow hot-swap replacing the battery. Imagine having to unplug everything in order to replace the batter of an UPS. It's the exact opposite of what it is supposed to do.
it's cheaper to diy a lifepo4 battery series and an inverter for solar or offgrid than it is to buy a ups that can handle a load for longer than 16 minutes>>103258241these don't do longer than 14 minutes and almost instantly kill their lead acid batteries, they also have horrible sine wave stability under load>>103245618apc's consumer units are the same story, awful
>>103258099nigga if you're a wfh or student you're using a laptop.
>>103261812Not me.
>>103245618Have had at least one UPS in my home since the early 2000s.Pros:>prevented losing unsaved work a couple dozen times>assurance against hardware damage from unstable powerCons:>a film capacitor in one went nuclear a couple years ago and stank up the house for a few hours (pic related is an almost identical failure from a similar model)
`>>103261812Full time wfh I'd rather use a proper PC
What does /g/ think of Eaton?
>>103263421Their enterprise products are supposed to be nice, but their residential units are just as shit as everyone else. Basically your only decision in residential is loud or quiet but slightly more expensive. Nobody makes showpiece quality residential UPS. If you want that you have to cobble it together yourself out of solar system parts.
>>103261295Kek, I agree. That's an absurdity which can be attributed to my poorly gathered early morning thoughts.My UPSs last between 20 minutes to 2 hours.While responding to>Has anyone even had a catastrophic blackout and lost all of his filesMy point was that despite having everything on UPSs, because the power was out for 4 hours, things still went down and I lost a backed up PC.Pre UPS, I lost quite a bit due to flickers albeit not in the past few years. The best sell for a UPS is that my wife works from home and leads calls with heated CEOs.She was leading a meeting, we had a flicker, and of course the internet died. God forbid nature inconvenience a CEO demigod for a few minutes. That's what started me collecting UPS.
>>103258241They're remarkably cheap on ebay
>>103258241Those are fake sine wave.
>>103263724and?
>>103245618i dont know shit about UPS, let's say you have PC with 850W PSU, it pulls 550W in usage, and the UPS is rated 500W. does that works?
>>103263964As soon as your PC starts pulling more than 500W the UPS will beep and prevent the PC from pulling more power. Your PC will throttle or crash.
>>103263825They might pop your PSU. What PSU do you have?
I just bought an exactly 3 yr old cp1500pfclcda from a paranoid seller that replaces the whole UPS every 3 years instead of changing out the battery pack.The UPS hasn't arrived yet so I don't know the state of the batteries, can I just run the built in battery test and if it passes, just start using it?I'm getting it for about $100 shipped which is half the price of a new one, so even if I have to replace the 2 batteries in it I'll still come out ahead.CSB HR1234W F2Yuasa REW45-12FRcan be regularly found for about $20~25 bux a pop here and the Yuasa NP7-12 can be found for as low as $10 bux a popWe don't have Amazon here, or I would have just bought the Amazon Basics Line Interactive UPS 1500VA 900W which is built by CyberPower with 2 less outlets total and no LCD for half the price of a cp1500pfclcd.https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Basics-Interactive-Protector-Battery/dp/B07RWMLKFM
>perfectly sta-boot your computer again>but the brownout killed my PSUget a new one, and one that actually does well during a brownout
I had a crazy power surge once, it fried all the turned on lights in my house, it fried the fuse inside the UPS, and it completely fried my PSU (was a good quality, not chinese shit), but the rest of PC was perfectly fine. I replaced the fuse and grabbed a new PSU. Without the UPS it would probably fry the mobo and god knows what else. Better safe than sorry.
>>103264038I like how the NPCs keep mindlessly repeating this. I think they're just trying to sound smart.For the record, it doesn't matter when the UPS is line-interactive: your computer will spend half-an-hour of its entire lifetime running from the MSW inverter in it.It doesn't matter with full online UPSs either: they have PSW inverters by design.
>>103245632Kek, imagine finding it unfathomable to have an actually stable grid where a blackout is a newsworthy occurrence, because that shit just doesn’t happen.Where I live, the last blackout was in 2005. No one outside the tech space here has ever even heard of an uninterruptible power supply. Just because your horizon ends kilometers before you come to your own country’s border, doesn’t mean that your country is not a shithole with fucked up infrastructure.
>>103267463I had a simulated sinewave UPS and it wouldn't let my PC turn on. Granted, that was years ago but still. I've only bought true sinewave since and had no problems.
>>103261344So... don't buy one.
>>103245708I live in a dorm with like 12 people, due to to many shit connected at the same time we have power outages often
>>103268970>I live in a dorm with like 12 peopleImagine your life being this depressing.
>>103269411That's nothing. I live in Eastern Europe (not Ukraine), and because of the war, we have a fuckload of Ukro immigrants/refugees. The cheapest living are naturally the commieblocks, which are usually two rooms (one smaller and one larger) + kitchenette and toilet/shower room. It's roughly 50m, so fairly small. The dudes live there in groups of ~15 people, turning all the rooms into bedrooms full of bunks or even hot bunking as one group works days and other night shifts.
Love my UPS, flickers are common and I like it for keeping up my networking gear and home servers. Battery finally died the other day and of course there was an outage during the two day gap before I replaced the battery.
>Cares about data loss>Doesn't care enough to just get a laptopPseud thread
>>103269889Of all the retarded shitposting replies, yours might be the dumbest one.
>>103269480>The dudes live thereWhy are they not at the front line?
>>103270008My UPS melted last week. I'll take the free bump for the /g/ anons still uncertain whether or not to buy a UPS. Do it now, don't delay.
>>103270008>My UPS melted last week. >Do it now, don't delay.This doesn't seem like a good sales pitch.
Whoops, that reply was meant for the other.>>103271723>>103271569
>>103271557They don't wanna go in war, duh.
>>103271723My UPS from 11 years ago melted. It's done its duty for king and country. I didn't want to buy a new one because I'm a cheap ass motherfucker and now paid the price.
>>103269411rent is really expensive nowadays manI need to get a gf ASAP
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Cutting off your sentence to imply a power outage is the lamest joke on the entire bo
>>103269480>I live in Eastern EuropeStopped reading here. Don't need your sob story.
>>103271838If you can't afford rent, you can't handle a girlfriend.
>>103245618My power grid is an absolute shit and I don't need UPS. If your system can't handle a sudden shut down, it's objectively garbage.
