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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CPU
Gaming: 12400, 7600, 9800X3D; for existing AM4 users: 5700X3D
Workstation: 265K, 9900X, 9950X

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60
Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer/Steel Legend, cheap X870, X870E Nova

>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x48GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580
Mid range: NM790
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only), SN850X
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5

>GPU
1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT
1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE
2160p: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTX
Workstation: RTX 4000 Series

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/III
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases

>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
AVOID: GAMEMAX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)

>MONITOR
1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D
4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
High end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)

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Are noctua g2 fans a meme or are they actually better then competitors like silent wings 4 pro?
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Raise your hands, give your energy to the coming discounts
\o/
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I am considering buying the ROG STRIX X870E-E

The AM5 roundup seems laughably bad in general and I did not manage to find anything better without shelling out double the price

>inb4 nova

Sold out. Are they any viable alternatives?
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>>103251908
>they

It's xey Chud
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>>103251920
Should have proof read lmao. It is what it is
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>>103251899
>Are noctua ... a meme?
Yes
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>>103251908
>>103251920
>>103251946
All me btw, unironically
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>>103251863
I have a 5950X but I don't use it like I used to when I got it 4 years ago, is it worth swapping it for a 5800X3D?
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>>103251999
not rly, the upgrade now is getting am5 + 9800x3d
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Alright bros I fucked up big time .
I ordered a 700w PSU because like a retard I trusted the advertised power usage of the 12600kf(150w) and RX 6950xtx(335w) liquid devil I bought .
Looking at reviews the CPU when allowed will actually drink 300w and the GPU over 500w but I figure I only have 600w to spare between the two after mobo, pump, storage and stability room .

Im to lazy to return it for another power supply and even if I did the most powerful fanless PSU I can get is 850w and that's still not enough so I'm just going to power limit the parts so they work within 700w total system usage.
PC will be used almost entirely for AAA and emulation 4 gaymen aswell as 4k intensive video software decoding but never at the same time . HTPC so never multitasking

How do I split the 600w between the 12600kf(e cores turned off) and the 6950xt LD ?
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>>103252022
Damn. System is still meeting my needs so it looks like I'll just keep it another 2-3 years I guess.
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>>103251908
> the ROG STRIX X870E-E
The Taichi is also a much better deal than this, not just the Nova.
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>>103251908
The Gigabyte Pro. It's not as good as the Nova, but the lane sharing is less of an issue with it than pretty much every other board that isn't the three ASRock ones that bifurcate. And, I am pretty sure the Pro is the same price. Just check the spreadsheet.
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>>103252033
first of all, a 700w psu is more than enough for those specs, you are worrying over nothing
>when allowed
just run the shit stock, there's no point increasing power limits as the performance gain is miniscule while increasing power draw 3x
second... why the fuck are you looking for a fanless psu when the rest of your system is running such a beefy (and therefore likely noisy) gpu? a regular psu will be inaudible compared to that
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>>103252053
Go on

>>103252059
I do not use enough pcie slots to cause lane sharing anyway
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>>103252033
Do calulation once more and post pic of result:
https://www.bequiet.com/en/psucalculator
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>>103252063
oh and btw i also forgot
unless you got a shit-tier psu, why even worry until the OCP triggers?
has the system ever powered off from overcurrent? no? then what the fuck are you worrying about? it's not like it will explode and kill the entire system if you draw too much power, that could only happen if your psu is dogshit to begin with
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>>103252076
>Go on
Just Google the spreadsheet like I mentioned. It'll keep you from doing something retarded.
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>>103251863
ouuh
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>>103252093
I do not see how the taichi is better. The differences between the boards do not concern me and somehow the ROG is cheaper
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>PTM 7950 gets better overtime
>Paste gets worse overtime
Why doesn't every GPU ship with it when you already paying 1000+ for a electronic part
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>>103252154
Because PTM is a mystery goo made by gooks which reaches performance levels of mid range thermal paste after 30 'thermal cycles'

The average laptop would shit itself because no one reads manuals
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>>103252179
Isn't PTM literally made by Honeywell?
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>>103252206
Exactly. Literally who chinks
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>>103252063
>>103252090
From what ive read the liquid devil 6950 comes with a silly bios that by default allows the card to draw 450-500w of power depending on cooling but I'm still waiting on a cooling fitting to come in the mail to test the card out myself .

For my CPU the default power cap in my bios is 225 and if you select water cooling it raises it to 400w.
>why fanless
Fanless htpc build

>why are you worried
I love stability and when shit just works for a decade

>>103252083
I filled this out and it tried to sell me 850 and 1000w psus
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>>103251908
whats the reason to get a x870e over a x670e? you dont get anymore lanes maybe usb4 half asses then no more oc headroom ???!?!
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>>103252076
You can use all four M.2 slots w/o taking lanes from the GPU slots. And unlike Nova the Taichi has 2 x PCIe 5.0 x16 GPU Slots able to run both in x8 mode (Nova second only x2 mode) which could be useful for 2 GPUs and AI. Also superior power design and cooling.
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>>103252125
Because the STRIX per its own document shares bandwidth from PCIe slot 1 if you are using more than Gen5 M.2 drive as the other M.2 slots that don't share bandwidth with that board are Gen 4.
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>>103252261
>4 m2

The board will be obsolete by the time I will need that much storage

>lanes

It's not like I use those anyway

>power
>cooling

Lmao, I have fans blasting air from all sides

>>103252255
Status symbol

>>103252276
By the time gen 5 will become the standard gen 6 will come out anyway
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>>103252255
> whats the reason to get a x870e over a x670e
The x870e Taichi is cheaper than the x670e Taichi and has USB4.
Just to give an example.
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>>103252276
>>103252125
>that don't share bandwidth with that board are Gen 4.
This should be "with that slot", not "with that board". So you get 1 Gen 5 slot before you are kicked down to x8, and you get 1 Gen 4 slot before you are kicked down to x8 on the other slot as well. And I'd have to look a bit more, but because they share lanes, if you use an M.2 in one of the Gen 4 slots it might make the PCIe 1 slot into an x8 depending on how they've done it, but Asus's documentation is shit and they don't have a diagram for the lane sharing.
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>>103252285
In your case it doesn't matter what board you get. Anything is good enough. Just get the cheapest and save money.
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>>103252300
> Asus's documentation is shit and they don't have a diagram for the lane sharing.
Yet another reason not to buy Assus.
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>>103250645
Yeah it's probably time to take it to the garage and blow it out with the compressor.
>>103250650
I've changed my coolant out.. I think twice in 5, going on 6 years. I lose a little over time to evaporation and just top it off a couple times a year. Hard tubing is stupid and there is no good reason to use it. You're 100% right about needing new waterbloxks when you upgrade though, which sucks. When I bought my 1080, EVGA was selling cards with factory waterblocks so I didn't need to deal with the GPU, and the CPU one is easy enough. Still, it's added complexity and cost for debatable benefit. Part of why I plan my builds around not upgrading for minimum five years.
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>>103252288
You can't use them without turning either slot into x8. It's got nothing to do with the layout by ASRock, but rather how X870e is setup. They dedicated 4 lanes to USB 4.0 straight from the CPU and there's nothing you can do about it other than not use USB 4.0; which is no great loss to someone like myself, but it's objectively a retarded architectural choice.
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whats the use case for usb4?
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>>103252335
Use case for USB? PCI does everything better
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>>103252300
Take your time, the documentation is indeed laughably bad

>>103252310
I like the 'please buy our product little timmy' aesthetic and bios of asus boards

>>103252321
ROG Strix is still king of the GPU space THOUGH

>>103252323
I buy high end and upgrade every 2 generations so every ~4 years

I fucked myself over by buying 3x 420mm radiators so I can only buy like 5 cases lmao. I mostly leave my loop as is yet the waiting period for the water blocks to arrive is usually annoying
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>>103252335
Something needs power or very high transfer speeds over USB 4.0. That's about it. I can't think of a single product that anyone would use on the regular that fit this mold, but I am sure it exists. Especially since the Tiachi comes with two regular USB-C slots; it makes less sense to use them. Unless, again, you need the power from them.
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>>103252366
>Take your time, the documentation is indeed laughably bad
Yeah, I can't make a definitive statement on this because they have withheld the information in the two different places in the document that it should be mentioned. It seems to be purposeful that they don't want you to know. If you're lucky, it'll only fuck with the second PCIe slot. If you're unlucky, it'll fuck with both. Literally no way to tell because again, no diagram and any verbiage related to this has been left out.
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>>103251863
Priconne is dead. Move on to its spiritual successor: Blue Archive.
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>>103252413
No reviews mention anything about the slots? I intended to have 2 drives so if the bottom slot fucks up the rest of the board I will consider other options
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I've been using 22" 1080p all my life, been thinking about upgrading to a 27" 2K or 4K.
For the same price I can get either a 2k +144Hz or a basic 4k 60Hz monitor. I like the idea of HRR but I don't actually play games where it would matter, nor do I think my GPU can support it.
For the purposes of programming, 3D modeling does going up to 4K actually make a difference? Can you comfortably have 2 programs running side by side without things feeling cramped? Is 2k 60Hz even a good idea to save money?
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>>103252430
No offense, but I'm not going to dig through reviews for you on this one. It's the product you want to spend money on, not me. You can do the research beyond what I looked into and was unable to find due to Asus specifically withholding it. Put in the effort is all I can say.
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>>103252235
>Fanless htpc build
how the fuck do you cool a 6950xt, with a silly bios, in a (probably crammed) htpc case fanlessly? I don't understand
>I love stability and when shit just works for a decade
if the ocp doesn't trip running a couple of unrealistic stress tests today, it's not going to trip in the next 10 years
>I filled this out and it tried to sell me 850 and 1000w psus
yeah psu calculators are shit, and those from psu manufacturers are obviously even shittier since they have to upsell you their more expensive psus
just do the math yourself, and then again, since you already have the psu, just see if it works lol
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>>103252235
>For my CPU the default power cap in my bios is 225 and if you select [retarded power limit setting] it raises it to 400w.
then... don't do that?
again, the performance gain is probably near 0, just run it stock
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>>103252459
First of all calm down. Second of all I found the answer in 10 seconds thru a reddit post
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>>103252439
It sounds like you are budgeting pretty hard, in which case you shouldn't even be considering the 4K due to the extreme performance hit that comes from moving from 1440p to 4K. The fact that you've been using a tiny 1080p monitor leads me to believe that you are using a fairly old, mid-tier GPU (even for the time it was released). If you're going to upgrade that eventually, just buy the 2K monitor; which I am gonna assume is an IPS.
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>>103252422
nyo
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>>103252495
Yeah I figured I wouldn't go above 300 euros tops, and that's stretching it, and would obviously like to spend less.
Got a somewhat old Ryzen 3600x, amd rx 5700 xt, 16GB DDR4 3200MHz rig. I doubt I'll be upgrading it until something dies, for gaming I do indieshit, and it runs software that I need to reasonably well.
My main monitor is an IPS one, but programs are starting to feel a bit cramped, and my secondary monitor is truly terrible.
That's half my motivation for buying something new, aside from wanting more of a work area and being able to use 2 programs side by side.

I guess my main question is, is 2k enough for that, and do I even have a choice with my current setup?
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I need to buy a wireless mouse.
Yes, it does need to be wireless since a wired mouse would need a 7ft cord for my situation.

Any mouse recs friends? I don't know what mouse brands or models are any good
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>>103251899
G2 fans are objectively the best multi-purpose 140mm fan out in the market.
It is second best in some use cases like radiator cooling, but there is no alternative if you factor the sound profile into the comparison.
https://www.hwcooling.net/en/noctua-nf-a14x25-g2-pwm-finally-a-first-class-140mm-fan-review/
Summary is in the final page.

I am waiting® for the chromax.black variants.
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Finally got a friend to help me set up a computer I built last year that didn't work. Turns out I needed to setup drivers before I can get the motherboard to cooperate with the graphics card. Now that that's settled what mouse and keyboard should I get? I know I can just take my old keyboard and mouse and migrate them over to the new computer but I'd rather have two setups to separate work and gaming from everything else.
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>>103252581
G pro superlight is the greatest mouse I've every used. Been using it for years. Battery still last weeks, plug it in for a few hours and good to go for another 2 months.

I actually hated it at first it's so light but when you switch to try to use something else after, you realize how good it is.
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>all the 9800x3d bundles are even sold out on newegg
Is this just scalpers or are people going wild on this stuff.
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>>103252581
>wired mouse would need a 7ft cord
the thing is all good wireless mice need the wireless dongle to be close to your actual mouse for reliability, so you'd still need to have a 7ft cable running from your PC to your desk.
other than that what are you looking for, a gaming mouse? productivity mouse? need extra buttons? budget?

either get a chinese mice (VXE R1 Pro, ATK F1, Ajazz AJ159) or pick a Logitech G Pro Superlight on sale if you don't care that much about getting mild performance and ripped off slightly.
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>>103252481
Stock doesn't fit in my power allowance since as I posted stock is 225w and 500w . I could lower them to the advertised power usage but I figured It would be better to allocate my power based on what I will give me the best gaming performance without bottlenecks rather just then lowering them both to the arbitrary advertised wattage .

I think this question is too advanced for the kids here who so I'm just gonna start with a 250w CPU/350w GPU split and test from there
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>he isn't switching to OLED

WHAT OLED MONITOR WE BUYING FOR BLACK FRIDAY?
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>>103252667
g6 oled is crazy low priced
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>>103252206
They're a DOW company
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>>103252697
Dawn of War?
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I'm a lazy ass looking to buy a [spoiler]prebuilt[/spoiler] for black friday and I'm seeing shit about 13/14th gen intel cpus being faulty. should I just avoid builds with them at all cost or is this overblown/resolved?
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>>103252641
>>103252662
>G Pro Superlight
Well that price point seems kinda iffy, but this mouse does appear to have what I'm looking for which is some side buttons and a good word of mouth.
After dealing with some unreliable $30-50 mice that send wrong inputs on click, spending $90 for a decent mouse I can use for years no longer seems that bad the more I think about it.

Thank you anons for giving me a starting point to do more research on.
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>>103252422
But my oshi loves Priconne...
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>CORSAIR MP700 2TB
i have no idea how reliable Corsair is but I bought it just because it was pcie5 and putting a pcie4 ssd into a pcie5 slot feels really wrong because i may be autistic

tell me corsair is good, i paid CAD$180 for it
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>>103252486
And btw yeah it does lane share and the nova is still out of stock hence I am open for other recommendations. The taichi just looks like a overpriced nova hence I am looking at msi boards which are also laughably bad
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>>103252667
>>103252690
I thought they Gigabyte OLED was the hot new thing?
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>>103252728
go intel if you want to have problems with shader compilations
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>>103252757
You're fine.
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>>103252757
Even if it wasn't good, it's the cheapest PCIe5x4 SSD in leafland by a wide margin
That might change with actual Black Friday deals but for now, it's a fine purchase
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>>103252764
>Gigabyte OLED was the hot new thing
They all use the same panels within each OLED sub-categories (QD-OLED and WOLED), people usually just pick the cheapest one
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>>103251908
I ended up with a b650e taichi after getting a headache reading all the different specs on these boards. Seemed like a lot of board for 280 bucks compared to the x870s.
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>>103252658
9800x3d is the only way to run above 60fps in AAA games.
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CAD prices, i am monitoring this

did the Samsung G8 4K OLED really go as cheap as ~CAD$1200, what even was that?
hoping this happens on black friday or boxing day
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>snagged a bunch of 18tb hc550 ultrastars for $209 each brand new over a year ago
>check hdd prices out of curiosity
>cheapest 18tb is a $300 exos
it's kind of funny to think that in 6 years or whenever the first one of these finally breaks down I'll probably spend as much or more on a replacement than i spent on the original. Hard drives have literally hit a forever ceiling. ~$15/tb purgatory for the last decade+. You know, someday the same thing will happen to IPC and single core performance will never meaningfully increase again... I feel it's getting close, too. We probably have another 70%-100% ipc to go until they can't do anything except add moar coars.

Just some shower thoughts.
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https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-announces-financial-results-for-third-quarter-fiscal-2025

Third-quarter Gaming revenue was $3.3 billion, up 14% from the previous quarter and up 15% from a year ago.

/g/ BTFO AND IN SHAMBLES
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The fuck is the point of this?
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>>103252469
>how do you plan to cool
Its not a cramped HTPC case but a DH101(picrel but not my pic)

I have a spring running out of the hills above my house that I run to inside my house for cheap ac . I'm hooking a 100,000 btu water to water heat exchanger up to it with one loop cooling my GPU plus CPU and the being cooled by high pressure spring water that is sometimes 2c in the winter and 15c in the summer .
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>>103252826
I'm waiting for the day that high capacity solid state $/TB gets within 20% of HDD $/TB to build my home NAS even if it's QLC NAND
Fuck spinning platters
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>>103252837
so...
you can manage the noise from the heat exchanger and liquid cooling pumps, but a psu with a fan running at 800 rpm is too much so you need a fanless one...
this doesn't make any sense
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>>103252853
The pump and heat exchanger are in a sound insulated area away from my home theater . assuming no air bubbles in the PC cooling loop it will be totally silent apart from coil wine
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>>103252868
holy mother of autism
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Why didn't Asus make an overkill ROG strix AIB for either 4080/4090 or 7900XTX?
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>>103252828
In about 10 years all this investment from ai pigs and VC will translate into great advancements in consumer video cards so this is a good thing in the long run
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>>103252836
Allows your monitor to act as a usb hub
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is there a chart or guide that outlines the strength and weaknesses between each gpu vendor?
besides cosmetic variance details why one vendor is slightly cheaper is rather obtuse
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>>103251863
>SSD health status: 99%
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>>103252809
>T. syrup guzzling butt hurt retard who spends his canadian tire money
Kek!

Enjoy your burn-in issues!
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>>103252951
Huh. So in theory you could hook your mouse and keyboard up to that and then run the single cable to the motherboard and it'd detect both?
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>>103252797
>b650e taichi
the b650e tachi lite used to be one of the very best boards you could get at $210. It was the taichi minus rgb. I don't think they make it anymore, can't find it for sale new
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>>103252971
>SSD health status: 99%
it has begun
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>>103252966
All I know is msi suprim have much better power phases and vrms compared to others, else it's just cooling design and how fuckhuege their heatsinks are
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>>103252986
Yea
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>>103252971
at least it's more predictable than harddrives shitting out on you
i havent actually had an SSD fail on me yet before i replaced it
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>>103252971
>>103253066
Get more ram
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>>103251863
UUUUUUUUOOOOHHHHH T_T
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>>103253066
>>103253113
>>103253185
Is there anyway to slow down the decay? Or is it just down hill from here.
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I guess im going to have to start researching on what to buy for my new build

What mobos should I be looking at? Do people still do gpu passthrough (VFIO) ill probably mostly run linux I guess this probably wasn't the best cpu to get for passthrough
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Can anon recommend a CPU cooler for AM5 socket that isn't really expensive? Something in the $35 or below price range?
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>>103253380
Bro your Thermalright Assassin or Phantom?
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>>103252826
Yeah HDDs are largely enterprise products now. Most consumers just want a single SSD, sometimes two.
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>>103253380
Phantom Spirit 120 SE
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>>103252799
>9800x3d is the only way to run above 60fps in AAA games.
Paying thousands of dollars to see a tranny in 4K and sit through a story line about pronouns. well at last the graphics look like they are from 2015 for your 1000w system.
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>>103253398
>>103253467
thank you

Assassin Spirit is $15 cheaper, is the Phantom Spirit that much better? I've no problem shelling out the difference if it is
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>>103253489
Phantom Spirit is a little less tall than the Peerless Assassin and is quieter. If the price difference is big just go with the assassin, but spirit is the newer product
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>>103253284
I doubled my ram and slowed it down
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>>103253284
never watch videos/youtube on a chromium based browser
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>>103253489
Spirit is the newer one with extra heatpipe
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Just got a 4k monitor, I want to get a card that can at least pretend to run it, is the 4070 or 4080 super worth getting at this stage? I'm worried about the 5000s being super expensive with trump taxes
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>>103252790
yeah i might have changed my decision if i learned earlier that i would need a (tiny) air cooler for pcie5 SSDs though. it sounds like a joke but apparently they do heat up a lot
they take up like 5w-7w of power so the free mobo heatsink cannot keep up anymore

lmao. shoulda just bought a Kingston KC3000
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>>103253534
>>103253502
But they're both "Spirit", right? Phantom is bigger, and Assassin is smaller and cheaper.

Spirit is just the most updated version of the Phantom/Assassin lines, right?
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>>103253543
that's so stupid requiring a fan I wasn't aware of that issue for pcie5 ssds, I'm just glad to have 3 SN770
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>>103253577
yeah im prob returning the MP700 and sticking with the SN850X
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>>103253572
Peerless Assassin
Phantom Spirit
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>>103253581
at canadacomputers there's the sn770 2tb at 160$ and the SN850x 2tb at 185$, sale ends in 2 hours though but they are pretty often on sale, if you can wait I'd look the charts of price history on pcpartpicker for last year to know when they usually go on sale
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>>103253585
and this "assassin spirit" (120 EVO) is a no-go? I'm kinda favoring it because its $15 cheaper and has 1 day shipping, but that doesn't matter
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>>103253626
yeah acutally i already had the SN850X then bought this on impulse since i saw PCIE gen5
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I scored myself a 9800x3d and 870e taichi lite in stock at msrp. Going to pick them up soon. I am very exited to build my first PC. Been planing to build once since back when the intel 2700k was still new and cool but for on reason or another it has never materialized. Wish me luck.
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after looking over a pcbg threads i've come to the conclusion that they're just for poor people, probably indians and chinese, who are mostly losers that play video games. video games are made for children
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>>103253543
Shoulda bought a Sabrent, lmao. No, but, I understand, that was a fair deal.
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>>103253629
Its 1 tower vs 2 tower
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>>103253629
if you're pinching pennies that hard, return all of your AM5 system and build an AM4 one
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first system build in about 8 years, looking to get back into mid range gaming.

suggestions?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fdNWXR
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>>103253727
very low terabytes written endurance on the Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB, the SN770 and SN850X have 1200tbw compared to your 440tbw from crucial
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>>103251863
>>COOLER
>AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60
>Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
>ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
not the Peerless Assasin anymore?
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>>103247451
>4070 (non-Ti) Super
thank you, that's exactly what I was looking for and sounds much more reasonable
I don't care about ultra high quality or raytracing, 100fps on high quality is fine with me
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>>103253747

changed, anything else?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hYJqkf
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Do you like my budget build? Keep in mind euros can't use Amazon prices without paying insane import taxes and sometimes transport fees

ryzen 9 5950x
Aorus elite b550
3060ti
32gb Fury (4x8 CL16)
Kingston Fury Renegade m.2 2tb with BeQuiet MC1 Pro m.2 cooling ribs

778 usd with psu, AIO cooler, cabinet
940 usd with the m.2
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is 50C too hot for a 9800X at idle
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>>103253868
9800X3D sorry
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>>103253831
motherboard seems too pricey for a low-end GPU and CPU, also if you really just want to play video games you should spend the most on the GPU
if you live near a microcenter look at the bundles
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>>103251863
Was looking at storage drive options. Not for the OS, but for large image files, music files, and misc other things like maybe some games.

Sata and nvme drives seem to be pretty similar in price at the moment, but sales havent really started yet. Wonder if some sweet deal will show up or if I'll end up buying a 2TB nvme and calling it a day.
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>>103253868
it's so odd that every generation gets more efficient and still they generate more than body temperature at IDLE. Is it compiling data into ultra compressed structures to secretly send to Israel or wat
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>>103253868
>>103253877
Ye
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>>103253831
Also for you PSU, I think that EVGA is soon closing shop, but I believe that their PSUs are made by SUPER FLOWER so for long term warranty it might be better to go with the latter, someone fact check this
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>>103253931
It's more efficient in the sense of performance-per-watt but it's the same number of watts in an ever-shrinking chip so the heat density goes up every generation
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>>103253936
>Evga quit gpu
>Now quit psu
Kek
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Damn, I cannot believe myself, but I think a fucking ARC A770 16GB can potentially be better than RTX 3070Ti.
Recently I found my PC often had stutters when I'm playing Wuwa with two Android emulators at the same time. At first I thought at it was my old i7 11700 that is the bottleneck, but then I thought, nah maybe the fucking 8GB VRAM is the actual culprit here.
So I swapped the A770 from my cheap Xeon E5 rig (which I used for running simulation and neural nets), to my main rig. And voila, the stutters disappeared!
Even in this anime game (picrel), the framerate is much lower than 3070Ti, the GPU usage is 99%, but somehow the micro stuttering feeling back when I still used the 3070Ti, is not here anymore.
Moreover, I don't know if it's placebo, but multitasking desktop experience is much more smoother when playing games (I'm using 3 monitors).

Fuck NVIDIA for their VRAM greed, next time I will grab an AMD card with 20 GB or 24 GB VRAM. Or Battlemage if it's cheap enough, as Intel supports IPEX on Windows better than AMD supports ROCm.
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>>103253940
Oh yeah true that. Thanks for useful post and have a good day
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>>103253879
not close enough to warrant a trip.

adjusted again

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4QDf8Q

>>103253936

a google tells me they're just leaving the GPU market and will continue making PSUs. I could very well be wrong though.
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>>103253940
>>103253931
>>103253948
Still would be hella cool to get a cpu as big as half a pizza that generates no discernible heat at all.
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Are there any decent small monitors I could put inside my case to display temps and usages? The ones I can find on Amazon apparently have shitty software.
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>>103253949
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4QDf8Q
seems much better (if GPU sags freaks you out maybe add a 5-10$ gpu stand), perhaps wait a bit for the opinion of a second person but I look forward to seeing your build when you finish building it !
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>>103253868
>>103253877
at idle? yes.
what cooler? what settings?
are you a silly who put PBO on the 9800X3D instead of undervolting?
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If I'm buying a 4080 Super does it matter which variety of it I get or are they all pretty similar?
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>>103253982
You're full of shit, practically all of AMDs current chips run around there at idle. My 7950x3d is at 49 right now with an arctic freezer aio.
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>>103253974

should I be worried about the mobo needing a bios update to read my CPU? I've never had to deal with that before.
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>>103254015
for AM5 it's made with a USB key, look at your motherboard's online manual just to be sure
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>>103254004
that is high
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>>103254002
I'd like to piggyback off of this anon's question and also ask this, but for a 4070 TI super
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>>103254039
It really isn't, fuck off with the trolling.
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>>103254071
Then yeah, both really. I'm still not totally sure which I want to go for, I just assume I probably want one of them since the 5xxx series is going to be bonkers.
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>>103254002
>>103254071
Yeah, never buy an asus
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>>103253868
Is that the package temp or the CCD or core temp?
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>>103252422
why are chinkshills like this
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Is this thread auto-saged?
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>>103254176
It was all downhill once the op pic got deleted
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>>103253949
>Enthoo Pro
What for?
>GPU
Interchangeable with an Arc A770 or you could wait for Battlemage and see if it'll perform better. I'm in the mindset where I think more vram is more important.
Here's what I would recommend for cheaper.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wbTVYd
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>>103254004
My 7900x is at 38c with deepcool ag620.
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>>103254181
mods really do hate their userbase huh
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>>103254199
Package temp idles close to 50 I'd wager.
Both of my CCDs and all my cores are at 36.
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>>103253866
>BeQuiet MC1 Pro m.2 cooling ribs
Why do you need this? Your motherboard should come with cooler.
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>>103254196
I'n currently using a full tower case and thought I'd keep it up since it seems to work well.

I've been out of the loop for a while and didn't know intel was even making discreet GPUs now.
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>>103254215
It was $20 and tests on youtube said it lowered temp by 25 degrees celsius. I want the m.2 to last as long as possible since it's the first time I bought a new one instead of just using some old junk
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>>103254231
You got scammed by snake oil, Gen 4 SSDs don't need a cooler aside from what the motherboard comes with, anon.
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>>103254231
The one on the motherboard is also just as big, but ok. The build looks fine. Don't you want to go am5? If you are building new? I had something similar in mind and went with 7900x build instead.
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>>103254231
You'll never gonna need it unless you're going with a Gen 5 SSD
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>>103254243
I'm gonna play for a month or two and relist it for about 30% profit (based on prices on my local marketplace). And if I still want to game I'll buy something underpriced and do it all over again. Just a fun little meta game
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>>103254229
More power to you if you like full towers. Also, same here with Intel making discrete GPU's when I was getting back into the hobby. I'm hoping Battlemage looks good for gaming, though since I want to build more PC's with interesting cards.
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>>103254256
>relist it for about 30% profit
You are retarded
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>>103254256
no ones gonna by 5950X for 30% more
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>>103252033
>intel
you deserve everything that happens to you. just cap that garbage cpu at 125w and disable the cuck cores
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>>103254282
>>103254276
My specs (and random old m.2 instead of my new one) will go for 1k USD on my local marketplace. I see worse ones selling for about that. 95%+ of people refuse to assemble things themselves.
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I have a Dell U2410 from 2010 that I'm still using. It has some burn in on one corner and some discoloration on the right side. Every year for the past 6 years, I've told myself I should get a new monitor. But I fear that if I do, I'll lose a part of myself. Or that I will end up regretting it. That the universe itself will end because I violated some unspoken contract with the immaterial.
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>>103253944
Yeah NVIDIA's VRAM is planned obsolescense, 8GB vram is pathetic and was already becoming obsolete when the 3000 series dropped with a small amount of games, it will probably be completely obsolete in 5 years and unable to play any new AAA games.

If AMD keeps improving at the rate they have been my next GPU purchase will probably be an AMD card.
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I was replacing my cpu cooler and when I took the old one off it looks like some of the paste (arctic mx-6) is in the area of the am5 cpu that has the resistors, should I clean it out or is it safe to leave it?
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>>103253113
It's literally the opposite. HDDs are likely to throw reallocated sector etc. errors in advance, whereas "SSD health" is borderline useless and just tells you how much of the rated TBW you've used up. Sure, at <5% you should probably go buy a new one, but that doesn't mean it can't instantly shit itself before then.
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Going to return my 7600x3d bundle because I don't feel like going through the hassle of reselling the shitty mobo and ram to save a few bucks. I'm also less than impressed with its performance in benchmarks so maybe it's not the CPU for me to begin with
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>>103254121
I have never had an asus card go bad on me
Same with gigabyte and msi
They're all fine
I have the 4080s proart because it's the only one that isn't massive
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Is it safe to sell SSDs with personal data after following DoD 5220.22-M?
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>>103253113
SSD death is far from predictable. The controller can just die out of nowhere with no warning. Happened to me once
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>>103254600
That's why you have windows file history set to another drive, ideally something outside of the pc
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Still trying to finalize my build. I can save a couple hundred bucks dropping from 4080 Super to 4070 Ti Super, and I can potentially get one that (barely) fits in my current case so I can spare myself the cost of that so another $100-$200 off.
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Would buying a 9900x instead of a 9700x be worth it if I'm only going to do video/photo editing and some vidya?
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What's a decent thermal paste to get these days? Should I just grab an Arctic MX-6 4g for $7?
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>>103254636
Doubtful. 9900x is more worth it if you're doing heavy rendering, blender, etc. 9700x is the "little bit of both" cpu for the masses
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>>103254742
MX-6 is good.
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>>103254636
7900x is cheaper for the same performance of 9900x?
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>>103254742
Depends.
PTM is meta for direct heatsink to die application or if you just want longevity.
Chink thermal paste is also pretty good, stupid cheap and pretty good thermals.
Different mounting pressure on air cooler vs liquid cooler makes a difference.
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>>103254800
Depends on where anon is from but yes they are pretty close. If it's like a $20 difference I would go with the newer chip, it is "technically" better
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>>103254823
>>103254796
I'll grab a 5700X3D to replace my 5600x and I can't find the tube my Fuma 2 came with so I'll need a new one. I'm not too picky about the performance, just anything decent would work for me I think.
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>>103254851
Makes sense, over here, 9700x is the same cost as 7900x.
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Frens, I'm looking for GPU recommendations to replace this ancient relic of a 660. Located in EU, and don't want RADEON due to power consumption.
Main use would be light gaming like BG3, CoD, any future Battlefield games and Cyberpunk.
I am very picky on games so new AAA titles don't interest me (yet)
Thinking of upgrading my monitor too on a 27inch (no OLED, shit's expensive) in the future. Still gonna play 1080, maybe dip my feet into 1440p but not sure.

What's best for me?
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>>103254885
ps. the PSU will be changed to an RM750, and I also don't mind getting used GPU.
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>>103254885
Why the fuck did you choose noctua cooler? Get something reasonable. What is your budget?
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Will a 7700x provide better emulation performance than a 7600? I assume yes due to higher clock
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what's the vSoC range on zen3 with 3733 4x8 SR
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>>103254929
The noctua was from 2011.
The system you see is already completed.
Just looking for a GPU + Monitor upgrade.
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>>103254945
used rtx 2060 super
if you want something newer 4070 and up



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