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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CPU
Gaming: 12400, 7600, 9800X3D; for existing AM4 users: 5700X3D
Workstation: 265K, 9900X, 9950X

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60
Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer/Steel Legend, cheap X870, X870E Nova

>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x48GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580
Mid range: NM790
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only), SN850X
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5

>GPU
1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT
1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE
2160p: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTX
Workstation: RTX 4000 Series

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/III
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases

>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
AVOID: GAMEMAX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)

>MONITOR
1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D
4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
High end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)

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>>103254885
1080p60 cards would be something like the 4060 (or XX60) cards. If you're concerned about power consumption then be wary about the 30xx cards like the 3060 since they're power hogs in comparison to the 4060.
The current catch with GPUs however is their gimped VRAM and cost despite VRAM.

8GB VRAM is perfectly fine for a mix of high and medium settings @1080p. 12GB VRAM even more so.
If you want to start heading into more demanding games and higher resolutions you're looking at a card upgrade or lower graphics options. A 4060 is a pretty economical choice I'd say. It's just not something that'll last unless you stay away from big releases.
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This is what I'm planning on grabbing along with a 7800X3D to upgrade from my 12900k/DDR4, assuming I don't spot any better BF deals is there anything crazy objectionable here?
I'll be keeping the same PSU/Case/GPU, I've already got 2 NVME drives but one's only 500gb so I'll just drop it if there's any lane fuckery issues.

>Workstation/high end: consider 2x48GB
I've currently got 64, it keeps Solidworks happy and is more than enough for my local models, any specific reason to go up to 96?

>Not getting an X870E Nova
ASRock no longer has an Australian distributor for some reason so it's expensive as fuck and has no after sales support.
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>>103255111
>shipping from uk, germany, us
so this is how the life is like on a giant desert prison in the middle of ocean. tough luck, kek.
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>>103254885
>that list
>very picky on games
Not picky enough.
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>>103255111
>7800X3D
Odd choice for a production rig. It's an odd choice, too, for a high-end gaming rig now the 9800X3D is out.

>to upgrade from my 12900k/DDR4
Doubly so when you already have a 12900K. Sure it's not the fastest thing around any more but it's still a strong performer. Faster in multicore than the R7, even.

>RAM
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/PxNYcf/
2*32GB with slightly tighter timings for AU$280

>any specific reason to go up to 96?
Not really if you know 64GB is enough.
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>>103255204
>That RAM
perfect, thanks
>7800X3D
Brain fart, I meant 9800X3D
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>>103255111
>upgrading from a 12900k
...why? It's still an insane cpu and is from the gen before intel killed itself
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>>103255218
>Brain fart, I meant 9800X3D
Even still I'm having a hard time seeing the need to upgrade. Do you play a bunch of cache "superscalers" like Factorio?
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I want to buy a stupid expensive flagship OLED monitor and its own sale for as cheap as it has ever been. Earlier this week it was $100 off for an Early Black Friday sale and I called the store and they said that would be the best price but now it's another $100 lower. So I'm wondering if I should wait for real Black Friday. Do you think there will be even better prices next week or should I pull the trigger now? This is the lowest the monitor has ever been anywhere in my country (1300 USD on sale for $1,100 USD)
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https://news.skhynix.com/sk-hynix-starts-mass-production-of-world-first-321-high-nand/
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>>103255231
>a bunch of cache "superscalers" like Factorio?
Yeah, plus WoW, BG3 etc.
Plus I'll be going from a 4090 to a 5090 when it launches early next year, and I figure now's a good time as any to go to DDR5.
I'm fully aware that in most games at 4k I'm not going to see any meaningful uplift, though the improved 1% lows will be nice to reduce OLED VRR flicker
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>>103255271
>Yeah, plus WoW, BG3 etc.
Ah okay that's more reasonable.
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OLED AHH DEEP BLACKS
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I need an mATX case that will fit a 360 mm AIO.
Love you guys so much.
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>>103254965
Temps dropped from 70-90c to 50
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Is an MSI MAG 274qrf QD for £198 good? Black friday sale from £350
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We gaman now need a basic OC guide for this old 13600k lol
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4320p monitor?
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>>103255351
depends what for, for games and media get VA or OLED
for e-sports it's fine and office it's fine
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>buy 2 fan gpu week ago on amazon, arriving today
>today 3 fans are 50$ cheaper than my shit
does amazon get mad if you cancel and return ship nonstop?
can I play with the worse gpu for 1 day?
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Dunno what v is on about game runs mint
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>>103255428
implying anyone on v got anything stronger than 1060
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>>103255420
if you did it once or twice I don't think they'd care
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>>103255392
Like a Koorui GN10?
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Upgraded to a 16 core CPU, the 5950x
Got an AllinOne liquid cooler - Arctic Liquid Freezer 3

Mounted the radiator to the outside with a custom DIY frame made from L shaped shelf brackets
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>>103254965
~hmm~ uma delicias
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>>103255477
>t. driver of
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>>103254965
any of you mad that the next XX80/XX90 cards will be over 1500 and 2000 dollars respectively?
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Am I retarded? I can't see any difference and one is cheaper?
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>>103255520
Also which is better
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>Order a part over a week ago from Amazon
>Gets delayed (twice)
>I switch to a different website to stop getting blue-balled.
>look up what happened to my part on Amazon.
>after some digging I find out apparently the Chinese have come up with a new national tradition of setting their warehouses on fire after their Nov. 11th holiday sales.
>
Makes me wonder why I pay for changazon prime.
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>>103255520
>>103255528
neither
of your getting a samsung 4k monitor, then get the g80sd, their 4k old flagship
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some business was liquidating perfectly good 3080s for 220$ near me but i was stuck in the cage
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holy shit, i did it. its a fucking bloodbath here. even the local stores are fucking scalping, selling them for 650+ IF they have any; most are selling preorders at ~600. basically only amazon supplies them, but they only list like 5 a day.
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1440p gaming with 4080S. Assuming GPU is non negotiable.
is 9800X3D a waste?
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>>103255477
meccano aah mounting
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>>103255538
I don't want 4k.
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>>103255446
desu the 79xtx is the suprise gpu this gen started out slower than my 69xt oc now its blasting past it, might even chuck it under water if i can make my old cooler fit it
136k runs great in stalker as well i thought the game would run like ue5 aasss apart from some small stutters its great 50-70fps ezpz maxxed i turned frame gen off looks and feels like ass
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is this a good guide for a z690 gigashiet?
>>103255365
https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/17aogsi/quick_easy_efficient_i5_13600k_overclocking_on/
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>>103255496
I hate the current Megazord style of the giant cases and the RGB stuff
The only piece of RGB I had was built into the fan on my old air cooler heatsink, now that's gone there's nothing RGB
With no CPU cooler inside there's now a decent amount of space in my mid size case

I've got a big panel of clear acrylic plastic and I'm going to cut it into a new side panel to replace the glass, with a hole cut out for the cooler tubes and some new vent holes. I'm also making a new top panel to replace the gauze that was there, which will seal away the interior from the cooler fan airflow
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Why does getting a new monitor have to be such a pain in the ass? Got a new pc like 4 months ago without upgrading my decade old monitor and ive been pushing buying a new one away all the time because i just cant pull the trigger. Whenever I feel like one is decent i read reviews about dead pixels, bad backlight bleeding and other shit that scares me away. Also the fact that idk anything about calibrating it and getting the right settings with hdr or not, color modes etc when it will arrive already drives me nuts. I just wanna plug it in and use it for fucking 5+ years without any issues is that too much to ask. And like I said ive been pushing it away for months but now is the stupid black friday shit and theres a lot of price reductions so i feel pressured to make a decision today.
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Is Ryzen 7600 fine on the boxed cooler?
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Since you fags were completely useless in helping me find a case, I got the ASUS Prime AP201 MicroATX in white.
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Recommend me a YUGE monitor upgrade that is also 1440p.
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I just want to play vidya at 1080p, is 7700xt overkill or is it pretty much required for me to play happily for the next couple of years? I'm very confused by all the cards, some of these deals might make me buy something retarded.
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>>103255724
forgot pic
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the joystick on my AW3225QF is acting up, how shit is dell with RMA's?
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>>103255734
>how shit is dell with RMA's?
They're some of the best.
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>>103255725
7700xt is a good strong card for 1080
You'll get good FPS in a lot of games, it'll be good for way longer than 2 years
I wouldn't call it overkill, there's a big range of games out there and some are pretty demanding
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>>103255724
dual 34" 3440x1440p
i got one 144hz one 100hz both 5yo go hard for va's probably better oled ones now but you have to worry about burnin
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Waiting™ for the 4070Ti Super prices to drop
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>>103255750
ill attest to that my power brick blew up 15yo ago and they sent me a brand new brick out of warranty free of charge
their newer pcs after 2015 and laptops are aids to workon currently restomodding a m15r2 wunna do a dram upgrade as well
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I'm a poor fag and I want to upgrade my cpu and gpu in the black friday sale.

Is the rtx 3060 and ryzen 5600 good?
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>>103255462
don't know about that one but
Xiaomi Mini Led Gaming Monitor G Pro 27i
is pretty good VA with 1000 zones
AOC is selling OLEDs for $400 now apparently too
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>>103255890
what playing?
aim for a 5700x3d black friday from ali express and a used 6800 would shit on that
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>>103255509
nah very happy i got a 7900xtx for half that and its only getting faster
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>>103255890
on poorfag tier, why not 4060? it can do better DLSS, framegen shit and would last longer in 1080p gaming use
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>>103255845
Too big.
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>>103255906
it's on sale
>>103255897
nothing crazy but I want to emulate the switch, also can't run black myth wukong on my current rig (rx 580 and ryzen 2600)
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>>103255906
Njudea doesn't have universal frame gen. He's better off getting an AMD card. AMD has frame gen for any game. Njudea only has frame gen in like 50 games
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hey pcbg, wanted your opinions on this. i have the antec flux pro and a 420mm lf3 and i wanted to mount it on the front with tubes down, but saw that there is no space, so instead of mounting it with tubes up i decided to put it on top. the configuration that i think is best is pic related, with the rad fans in pull config and case fans in front and rear as exhaust; the gpu has its on intake on the bottom.
cant do any tests because im still missing the cpu from the build, but do you think putting the rad in front or configuring the top rad fans as exhaust instead of pull might be better?
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>>103255912
kek i didnt even launch that on my pov a770 build
>>103255911
4you
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>>103255565
then the oled 1440p360hz monitor they sell
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>>103255923
In: Top, bottom, front
Out: Rear
It'll make sure there are no dead zones, plus overpressure is good for reducing dust buildup.
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Is HDR a big difference to SDR? Watching some monitor reviews rn and it gets mentioned from time to time but i dont really have an idea of the difference
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>>103255350
the solution to p180 airflow has always been brute force
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>>103255973
>3.4A
imagine the airflow
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>>103255948
i guess that'll keep the mobo vrms and ram somewhat cooler too, since i intend to do some overclocking. i hope the cpu's io die wont be bad.
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>None of the shit I want is on sale
Bros I'm livid.
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>>103255971
On OLED yeah. If you have a modern phone you can see the difference right now by comparing HDR videos on YouTube.
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>>103256000
184.4cfm on the datasheet but the case really strangles them

they can pwm down to ~300rpm before they stop and at that speed they're "boomer silent" aka i can't hear them over the tinnitus
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>check monitors
>burn in is still a bitch
>maybe I will get a headset
>worry about headset dent
I guess I will continue to do nothing.
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>>103255592
At launch people were saying the 7900xtx was slower or on par than the 4080 on raster. Today after 5 minutes in AMD software you're better than a 4090 D and almost to a real 4090.
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I was hoping the 4070 super would drop to £500 or below for black friday but so far the lowest price is the same as it was for prime day (£509)
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>>103255923
all your fans are opposing one another. come in from two or three sides and go out the opposite one or two.
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>>103255971
Depends on the game, there aren't many with good enough HDR implementations and AutoHDR/RTX HDR are kinda shit.
Cyberpunk with HDR on OLED monitors is a super impressive experience.

Only thing to know is that HDR is generally mastered for dark rooms. You lose the effect with current display brightness capabilities in brighter environments.
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>tfw no 24" 1080p1khz oled
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>>103256165
Is this like a simple on/off option in the monitors own settings or do i have to look out in the description if its either sdr or hdr?
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>>103255724
32gk850g
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Are these unused things connected to anything? What happens if you short them?
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>>103256193
unfortunately right now its not a simple 'set and forget' thing like it is on tv
autohdr is still very hit and miss right now, at least on windows.
if history has taught us anything about emerging technology, its probably an even bigger headache on linux and working perfectly fine on mac.
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>>103256216
without seeing the other side of the pcb we cant know for sure
why would you want to short them
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>>103256227
Just curious.
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I consooomed. Will have 4tb of 990 pro now.
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>>103256216
>>103256227
I was wondering about those too
I thought it was a bit weird that they exposed parts of the CPU workings
But then I suppose it could allow so extra venting of heat
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>>103256204
It weighs 32.850kg?
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>>103256232
those are slots for vcore voltage filtration or something and actually all of them are populated for ryzen 9000 series. buildzoid was fucking with those.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmd_Y3Pesng
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>>103256249
I consoomed the 8tb wd black sn850x
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>>103256252
>His monitor doesn't weigh 30+ kilograms
How can you expect reliable performance from such flimsy components?
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>>103256249
I want to get the 990 Pro but the 4tb was $250 on Prime Day
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>>103256249
you bought 4 1tb 990pros? why not just buy a single 4tb? checking american amazon it seems you fags have some amazing deals, like holy shit.
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>>103256249
>4tb of 990 pro now.
Based
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bros... it just went on sale i don't know if i can resist
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>>103256264
sneed850x
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>>103254965
>Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only)
Can someone explain to a retard why it wouldn't work fine for loonix?
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>>103255477
running your PC without a side panel is unwise thoughever
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>>103256273
I already have 980 pros
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>>103256343
have some*
Thought I'd get 1 more
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>>103254965
>Samsung 990 Pro
Are these still the kings of NVME? Gen 5s are too expensive for me and I don't want to bother with cooling them down.
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>>103256355
yes, gen 5 is a failure
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>>103256355
sn850x is better for sustained workload and in linux
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What should I look out for when it comes to getting an SSD?
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>>103256249
man, i bought that case on amazon on the 19th and it got all the way to my state and then the seller put a return to sender order on it. i wonder if its due to the listing having the images swapped for the black and white skus or if theyre just trying to fuck me.
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>>103256394
that its not fake, pretty much
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>>103256394
does it fit in the hole, and will all your shit fit on it
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>>103256440
same way i pick my dildos
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>>103256224
I mean like if the monitor has HDR in the settings and if it doesnt work properly/look good i can simply turn it off and it will be SDR right? Because im looking at a potential monitor I might buy and people said its HDR is not good (even a fake version whatever thats supposed to mean)
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>>103256456
yes you can turn if off. Lots of shit doesn't work properly with hdr on
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>black friday on amazon
>those prices
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>>103254965
Are there any PC Parts I should consider getting before the Tariffs hit? I need to get more Storage but idk if I should get a 2nd M.2 or an SSD, right now I can get a 4TB SSD for around $170 but what about RAM? I have 32GB which I know sounds overkill but I play Modded Minecraft unironically with my Frens so should I just say fuck it and buy another 32GB of RAM?
Also a hypothetical question, is it worth buying Computer Parts in bulk and reselling them after the Tariffs cause a /g/SHTF? I won't be reselling them for a lot maybe just an extra hundred depending on the demand and yes I'm broke so thats why I'm asking bros.
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>>103256456
>can simply turn it off and it will be SDR right
yes, it's not a hard-locked feature.
>HDR is not good (even a fake version
you're probably looking at a traditional IPS/VA display without MiniLED. these usually aren't able to display HDR properly, they can only interpret the HDR data being passthrough to them.
true HDR requires high brightness granularity (at least up to 1000nits) and extended color gamut. the latter can be found on any display, but brightness control is still iffy outside of OLED monitors.
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>>103256470
Laptops, tablets, etc. will sell better than gamer hardware
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1k us 1299au delivered good for this?
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>>103256464
>>103256476
Okay thanks. Right now im about to have to make a big decision whether i get this (after doing quite a bit of research this seems to be one of if not the best QHD budget monitor although i read about a bit of a gamble when it comes to the panels) 1440p 27'' monitor:
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/product/B0C9R15T26?tag=rtings-de-mn-21&ie=UTF8&th=1

or I save 50-70€ and get a 24'' 1080p monitor. Both will be insane upgrades from my old 27'' 1080p 60hz one from 2012. But im still torn.
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>>103256491
you can't do much better than the Dell G2724D as far as traditional IPS go, it's a great monitor. it's a huge step-up from 1080p if your PC can handle the higher load
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There's about a $60 difference in price between the MSI and the Gigabyte 4070 TI S cards on amazon. Is there something about MSI GPUs I should know about before buying this lower priced 4070?
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>980 pro 2tb is on sale
>990 isnt
should i just get the 980?
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>>103256511
?
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>>103256524
its been that price for at least a month. It was $150 a couple weeks ago and around $120 on prime day
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>>103256470
I am going to buy an SSD, and this seems like a pretty good 1 so far, should I hit it bros? I'm going to keep looking but I don't want to go above $200.
>>103256477
Really???? What about PowerSupplies?
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>>103256529
I don't think its going to go back down to Prime Day sale price. I wanted to pick up the 4tb version myself but ended up getting the sn850x instead because of that.
Likely pick one up around christmas as deals might be better then. Or maybe as BF sales go on they'll lower it.
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>>103256507
Thats good to hear. I got a 6750XT but i mainly use it for watching youtube,streams and browsing anyways. I dont play that demanding games so I should be fine in terms of PC handling I think.
Im just a bit nervous because so far in my life I used a 27'' and a 22'' 1080p monitors with TN panels and they both worked for decades till this day and now Im getting the first IPS one and I read all this bad stuff about dead pixels, backlight bleeding, IPS glow etc. so I hope I wont get a bad one and it will work for a long time
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>$400 for a first gen oled monitor
I didn't think we were going to see any drop below $500 this here but here we are
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>>103256560
if i do end up getting the other components i might get the 4TB one already have samsung magician shit on my pc
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>>103256559
Power supplies are very niche, hard to find a buyer for. Normies just buy laptop, phone, tablet.
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>>103254965
>"deals" are the old prices, only with a new black friday label
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is the ryzen 5700x for $160 a good deal?
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>>103256571
this is actually a 3rd gen QD-OLED (QZD2), so yeah crazy deal.
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>>103256571
Why do you need an OLED for anon? Burn in, BURN IN.
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>>103256576
I sold a 4 year old power supply on ebay last week in like 2 days.



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