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How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (Measurements, Targets, Equalizer, etc.):
https://rentry.org/IEM-EQ-Guide

>/iemg/ Proto-Blog/Wiki
https://rentry.org/iemgazette

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (Harman) - $35
• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35
• Kefine Klean (bassy neutral) - $50
• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90

>Bullet IEMs:
• Final E500 (dark) - $25
• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30
• Etymotic ER2XR (neutral) - $100

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (warm) - $5
• Faaeal Iris 2.0 (warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• Fosi Audio DS2 2024 (CS43131) - $45
• Tanchjim Space - $90
• Qudelix 5K - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120
• FiiO JM21 - $200
• HiBy M300 - $200
• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200

Previous thread: >>103260035
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Galaxy Buds FE
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>>103273123
Fox edition?
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Not sure where to ask this, but
rode podmic vs audio technica AT2020 vs other?
for voice calls and recording guitar
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>>103274042
>Clean output & seamless Bluetooth connection.
>Effortlessly drive planar with that tiny size.
>Cheap.
>Can act as DAP (akin to ipod nano) albeit only support up to 32gb SD Card.
>8 hours continuous use of battery life.
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>>103273784
either are fine. i've used a rode nt usb for over 6 years
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>>103273039
that halftone printing on the lego looks cheap and low res...or maybe....its a fake copy?? i mean, you cant be so sure with chinkshit.
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>>103273039
concluding the /iemg/ bass poll because votes stopped coming in.

total mud victory.
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>>103275007
>only 38 posters
actual dead general, transjim killed /iemg/
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I got the dunu lyre mini for only $33aud during 11.11 but it is so micro-phonic it is unusable. This is a shame because every single aspect of the cable is premium as fuck, it would be a 10/10 if not for the micro-phonics. So what I am going to do is cut the fabric sheathe off it and find out what is underneath, will report back here fellas.

Also I think the oriental brothers at Hakugei fucked up their black friday sale pricing for pic related, paid $51aud total. The black friday price was removed only a few hours after the sale started lol.
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>>103275140
>asano judgement day culling
so based
>>103275153
>aud
so like $5 usd, gotcha
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>>103275166
Weird to have pride in currency lad, is there anything you yourself have done to be proud of?
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>>103275621
cumming into my own mouth while standing, pretty good party trick
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>>103275654
Wow, that's impressive, how did you do that?
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>>103275654
I yield anon, you have my respect
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>>103269318
>The subbass rumble is a bit too much for me
Yes
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>>103275153
update, I cant bring myself to cut open the cable. It feels wasteful.
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>>103275959
Just resell it bro
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>>103275153
>>103275959
lol reasonable, shame you wasted the money on it. funny enough i saw headfiers arguing about it because one guy claimed not to hear any microphonics, so he said the other guy must have gotten a "defective," cable. god headfiers are deaf...
cloth-covered cables are the dumbest shit for iems. terribly noisy
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>tfw i've imbalance ears
How to fix this :(
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>>103276075
This helped me when I had allergies
https://youtu.be/I47xi2F3W9g
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Based action €4.99 endgame 'phones
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>>103276680
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>>103276689
Whad the fugg DDD:
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Plutus Beast is the new meta.
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>>103274376
link it coward
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might get this
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>>103276827
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1005006182355625.html
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>>103276965
Nice vocals and mids, below average bass. That thing's low end sounds powdery as hell.
Resoulution is alright. Shocker I know, considering this thing only has AAC decoding
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>>103277120
so...should i get it?
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>>103277157
Its good for the price
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>>103276965
it's overrated.
every moondrop TWS i've ever bought including this one has the max volume set so unbelievably low it's disgusting.
i don't know why chang hates volume control so much, every other TWS i've ever had is double the default volume of moondrop ones.
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>Asano lego's already gone
Maybe next time...
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>>103277157
Depends on your budget and sound preference. For something less than 20 bucks the Space Travels punches above its weight in audio and build quality. That thing can compete with some budget wired IEMs like the Wan'ers (Wanker) and even Chu 2.
Also, Spacetravels are tuned to neutral. If you like something with punchier bass go for TWS stuff from Soundcore.
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>>103277186
>>103277157
This thing too. Space Travels have very low volume gain and will EASILY distort if you push that thing above its limits, like in Wavelet for example.
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>>103273039
Just how bad can they be?
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Can someone tell me what are dongles for?
Like, when would I need one?
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>>103277439
when yo phone got no hea'one jak
you plug one in it cuh
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>>103277248
you need negative preamp to avoid clipping
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/13aw2eo/does_wavelet_ignore_preamp_in_eq_profiles/
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>>103277424
Reviews say they're pretty good. And they're the only reasonable planar tws at that price
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>>103277777
piss off nigger. such a waste
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>>103277779
Why are you so aggressive, I'm just bouncing off reviews I've read.
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chorbo
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>>103277810
Nigga wrong thread
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>>103276378
Whoa... thanks
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>>103277439
they typically have better sound quality than built in audio like from a pc motherboard or a smartphone. low output impedance, SINAD, linear phase filter (only some dongles have linear phase like CX31993 or specific models of CS43131/CS43198 based dongles like FiiO KA2, FiiO KA5, moondrop dawn pro allow you to manually select the filter using their android app)
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>>103277424
i own them, they're good.
but for the price you're better off getting denon perl pro if you just want the best TWS audio quality. if you care about transparency/ANC features more then get samsung
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>>103276689
Sounds like a plot to a really bad porn parody movie
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>>103278012
what would pos porn look like...
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>>103278432
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>>103277424
Terrible. They don't even have wires.
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>>103276680
What IEM should I get kikkass bass under 20$? I am planning on getting KZ EDX Pro. The graphs shows it has the better bass than most IEMs under 20 burgers.

>>103276680
Based. I have pic attached in my thirdie shithole it has better bass than Truthear Gate which costed 5 times more lol
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>>103278495
pic related
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>>103278444
coomdrop was way too based for their own good
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>>103273039
>bnuy
WHERE? WHEN?
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>>103278761
inside the rabbit hole
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>>103278761
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005004857506664.html
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I bit the bullet and ordered HiBy W3 II. I read that it can be used as both USB-C and Bluetooth DAC, so if one fails to work and my device I can rely on other.
Can anyone already owning one of these tell me how bad is the audio latency using Bluetooth? I hope it's nothing more than 250ms.
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>>103278894
>miffy
my god that brings back childhood memories
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Explain why I SHOILDNT get the ie200.
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>>103273039
>• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (Harman) - $35
Is this still accurate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxgyQZ88lrE

Doesn't even mention it.
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>>103279328
The epz is good. Conch and Simgot aren't. Gate is a cheap pos that should be $5 at most.
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>>103279310
IE100 Pro is better and half the price
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Reminder if you own more than 2 IEM you are addicted
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>>103279422
are there measurements of that one
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>>103279538
he's trolling you, ie100 isn't either half the price or good
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>>103279576
Oh that doesn't look so the bass actually looks‐
>5128
Holy fukk that's a lot of bloat
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>>103279430
I'm addicted to fox IEM.
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>>103279430
My second pair is on the way. Got the Zero2 first, was blown away, now I'm going to try the Q1 Pro for a different sound signature.
May go for something more neutrally tuned next.
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>asano lego already sold out
SHIT FUCK SHIT. WHY DIDN'T I REDEEM IT FFS
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Daily reminder that not listening to good music renders your pos collection virtually worthless
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>>103280115
I only listen to real music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPRA0W1kECg
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>>103278915
I had one of these for a week
the bluetooth worked fine as well as the USB connection
didn't support bluetooth multipoint so I returned it
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>Budget
100 euros
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
Music
>Frequency response preference and music examples
Didn't get it
>Past gear and your thoughts on them
Kz ZSN Pro - I don't have much to complain about, I like the sound. The only thing that sometimes I miss is a better distinction between instruments that orbit in similar frequencies. Sometimes the sharp cymbal mixes too much with other instruments, lacking clarity. But overall I like it.

Coomdrop Space Travel - I would say that the kz zsn pro still pleases me more than this one. Even costing more, I feel that the spacetravel does not deliver even 20% of what KZ delivers. Not to mention the weak bass, lack of acoustic isolation (KZ without ANC can isolate better than the spacetravel with ANC on lmao). Overall I feel that the sound has no "soul", the basses of Kz better fill the sound, which makes it more "full".
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>>103280696
Kefine Kleam
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kinda looks like a dusk analog. i guess the dsp cable would work
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>>103280926
>Not giving money to crin
>No Moondrop QC
Seems worth it
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>>103275140
everyone is happy with the EDC Pro now
only addict chinks keep chasing the dragon or waifu baits
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Why do I hate Crinacle again /iemg/?
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>>103281047
He's obese
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>>103280926
Does it really sound similar to DUSK (analog) tho?
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>>103281110
is 32gb mp3 player plus 64gb enough for flac how much music will I be able to hold and how much to leave space wise for playlists
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>>103280115
like elo
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>>103281041
I have EDC Pro and it just sounds like shit I dunno what else to tell ya
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>>103281047
Hes way too sucessful
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>>103281234
liar or deaf I dunno what else to tell ya
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>>103281110
it has a similar driver config so probably more than other IEMs
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>>103281200
I have 1130 songs mostly in FLAC in my DAP. It takes up 30GB. Note that your mp3 player system could take up extra space too, so it's not fully 32+64. So yeah, it depends on your music library.
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If I'm aiming for a neutral tuning on a budget, can I do any better than the 7hz Zero 2 and EQing out some mid bass?
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>>103281481
get the wanker sex edition
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>>103281481
Sound differences between common budget 1DD recs are marginal. They perform well and can take EQ. Fit comfort and stability are more important factors dependent on your individual ear anatomy, meaning you'll just have to try them. Overall Zero2 does not rank highly for wide appealing fit. Common complaints are that the nozzle is too short and the shell is not ergonomically designed.
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>>103278915
Cancel and order Q5k instead.
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not any insane cable deals, but this Shadow Warrior is lower than 11.11's City Hunter (sick names chang)
>https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807873006411.html
>store coupon: 7YLJ8OE39HE8
>+ RHH site coupon
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>>103281748
oh and it can be found in coins section for extra % off
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>>103279310
>Crap microphonic cable that needs to be swapped (and needs to be swapped with IEx00 series specific connection to fit, not universal MMCX)
>Dumb nozzle vent design that needs to be taped over to prevent massive bass leak
>Flimsy shit stock eartips
>Terribly cheap plastic shell that feels worth $10
>Just look at the rest of Amazon reviews, bet it's labeled as Frequently Returned Item too (for all the reasons above, + one side randomly dying as consistent issue across their whole IE line-up, including the more expensive ones)
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>>103281438
it’s 32gb and comes with a 64gb sd card
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Opinions? I'm considering buying it during the promo.
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>>103281952
Okay, well idk how wide your library collection is. You tell me if it's fine or not.
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>>103281933
oh how could i forget to talk about the sound. low resolution one-note bass, flat vocals, and retarded upper treble boost for the hearing impaired
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>>103281748
>XINHS
NiceHCK or Tripowin (Zonie specifically) for me, sorry.
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>>103281967
it's /iemg/'s number one pos over 30 kz life cycles. simply the GOAT (or FOX if you will)
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>>103281967
I found it uncomfortable for my ears. Replacing cable helped, but that slight bump on the top which usually is made for comfort did not fit me well.
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>>103281967
It's the best iem money can buy simply because EPZ will put your waifu on the faceplates.
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>>103279430
I own so many i'm almost afraid to show them.
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>>103281290
just like another meme - CCA CRA their sound very fucking metallic. I did EQ them a bit so they don't sound that awful but it's still meh... Tho I guess for their price it's fine? Dunno why anyone would buy them instead of Q1 or something
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>>103282002
>nicehck
uncustomizable cables, yikes
>tripowin
literally a reseller lmao
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>>103282223
What do you mean uncustomizable? How do you customize cables?
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>>103282343
different lengths, with or without earhooks, different hardware, interchangeable plugs, bare wire, etc
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>>103282392
What manufacturer even offers this.
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>>103281967
put waifu on the faceplate or not worth
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>>103282082
>>103282420
Can someone explain how they print it on the faceplate?
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>>103281967
Endgame.
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>>103282481
a highly skilled but underpaid painter renders your waifu 1:1 on the plate before shipping it to you
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>>103282403
xinhs, ivipq, zisin, and to a lesser degree yongse
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which manufacturers are willing to put a waifu on a faceplate?
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are IEMs just cope?
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>>103282610
softears and epz
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sneedaudio
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>>103282776
>5BA
Fuck.
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>>103282773
cope for what?
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>>103282773
IEM are like the anti cope.
Huge headphones are the cope of the audio world.
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>>103282011
I don’t have the Q1 Pro but KZ is starting to get close man…(took them long enough)
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>>103282809
IEMs are on a borrowed time until we get lossless no latency TWS with on-board PEQ. Thanks bluetooth for being total dogshit I guess. Headphones on the other hand are fully obsolete.
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>>103281748
>$60 for a cable
why
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>>103282854
ifi go pods exist
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>>103282911
Not lossless, no PEQ, high latency.
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>>103282854
2 weeks from now bros, I'm sure of it.
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>>103282776
>>103282787
Softears sell you $100 per bellsing BA.
>>103282783
At least they use knowles and sonion, overpriced nonetheless.
>>103282841
It's been a while they've started to get close.
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>>103282900
i redeemed for less than $10
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>>103282783
Hakuya? More like HAWK TUAH LMAO
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best iems to watch arcane season 2?
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>>103283012
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>>103282953
It will arrive in two weeks, yes.
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>>103283166
Sadly the 350T suck.
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>>103282783
>10BA
FUCK
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>>103283038
Does this count as fox IEM?
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>>103281967
Cheap and good. Using them rn. No waifur plate but maybe one day, the default looks neat as well.
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>>103283038
>western IEM with western 2d on the box
come on guys, we can do better then this
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>>103283038
Yuk. Kimoi. The west can't compete.
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You guys are talmbout EQ but if I want to use my POS to listen to analog music when how do I apply EQ?
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>he fell for the analog meme
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>>103283640
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are the 7hz crinigger zero2's still worth it?
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>>103283801
no, mogged by tanch bunny
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>>103283809
LMAO bnuny has no subbass
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>>103283819
it's not because it's not elevated to nigger levels that there's no subbass
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>>103283819
Zero2 objectively has too much bass if you're actually following the recent meta.
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Lmao this is just the 2nd sample on squig.
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>>103283794
This one is ass although I wonder if I'm autistic enough to buy a graphic eq with balanced inputs/outputs and multiple preset options just to listen to vinyl records every once in a while.
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>>103283929
*subbass
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nice. better cable than most other budpos
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>>103283277
All made in China
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>>103283943
DB2 girl clears. Nicehck needs to use her more.
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>>103283943
she cute
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>>103283934
Uh oh...
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asano likes long pins O.O
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>>103284113
>the cables Tanchjim sells are (Rated) X and R
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>>103283943
it's too bad YDX and YDSmall sound like absolute tin heap gas station trash since the cable and waifu are good.
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>>103284262
meh it's just bright. budpos have a very low ceiling of fidelity anyways. listening to vocals is fine
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>>103284278
any similar priced buds (or cheaper) like yincrow x6, vido, any faaael offering, is just going to sound better.
don't know of any budpos enjoyer that actually recommends the ydx to anyone because even by flatbud standards the sound is poor.
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>>103276965
Will they fall out if I use them for running and other cardio workouts?
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Apologize right now.
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>>103284301
I would take the YDX over all of those you mentioned simply because the cable is that much better. Getting any of these based purely on sound quality isn't something I'd do.
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>>103283929
It’s a little exaggerated sure but Bunny looks to have a deficiency maybe.
>>103283934
If it was deep insertion it wouldn’t be as concerning.
But the bass looks to be less than even my Libra X
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>>103284332
Holy guacamoly
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>>103284332
bro those are pos. i mog you 100x over newfag
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>>103284332
All this shit combined for like $250 max. Could have gotten a single good pos with that shit.
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>>103284390
And it wll die just as fast as a cheap pos.
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>>103284336
i kinda agree with this. rosemary has a decent cable, but i paid 1/3 the price for ydx and it's still better
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>>103284332
the bigger the box and the cuter the girl = the better the IEM
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>>103284397
This is your brain on kzqkzcca
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>>103284332
>revised cra
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>>103284332
I kneel
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>>103283809
I can't find the bnuny's on AliExpress. Where are they available?
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>>103284336
>white vido
How does it compare to the blue one?
I really enjoy mine and was thinking about getting another one, maybe in different color (and therefore, sound).
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>>103284744
Just buy something else like I did. Tanchtards decided it was a good idea to announce something then not release it for two months (and counting).
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dunno if this is the right thread to ask but im looking for new TWS In Ears
i lost my SoundPeats Free 2 Classic
Pros
>Cheap while also sounding good enough for the money
>small and no stems
>good enough mic in absolutely quiet rooms
Cons
>weren't comfortable and slipped out of my ears when i tensed up
>sound could be clearer with more seperation, bass could be more precise
>no multi device connection
>mic was absolutely dogshit outdoors, calling was impossible if the room wasn't dead quiet
i looked up some reviews and yt shills
and most of them shill the Earfun Air Pro 4 and the SoundPeats Air 4 Pro for their sound quality and especially outdoor call quality
true?
is it even possible to get good sound and good call quality without spending something in the pricerange of the fagpods?
i would be even happy with cheap, good sounding TWS if i could use my Phone as a mic when calling
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>>103284872
tldr yes.
Scarbir is pretty good for TWS garbage
>TWS “hall of fame” so to speak
soundpeats free 2
Melobuds pro
qcy t17(imho probably better FR)
Samsung galaxy Buds FE & pro 2
soundpeats clear
Moondrop Space Travel

mind you this is only for frequency response nothing else
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>>103284798
I'll check and see later if I still have their measurements but in short: I very much doubt the commonly shared idea of different color Vidos sounding different.
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If I'm EQing with peak filters, what are the realistic limits to how much I can increase gain? Is there no limit as long as I use a negative preamp? I try not to go past 3db gain on any frequency since you can end up stacking filters even when using low values.
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>>103280926
both are objectively bad sounding bellsing pos(slop)
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>>103284332
not a single good iem in the pic
should have gotten a cadenza 4, 5+2, s15 or some other pos for that
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>>103285191
With proper preamp, the limit is your wanted listening volume
I'd say that for most EQ presets, ±12dB is the limit. Beyond that it's not particularly useful.
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Can anyone explain to me how an audio player can cost an arm and a leg? Isn't it just a simple machine that outputs ones and zeroes? How come some of the shit I find can reach like $2000?
I'm just looking for a simple one that can play music, has bluetooth and wifi, and I can set multiple alarms on it.
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>>103285397
Because people will pay for it.
For a budget one get the Hiby R1 or an old smartphone, especially LG V20 and V30 have great dacs.
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>>103285397
snake oil and shit, daps stop being worth it above 200$
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>>103285397
>niche market segment
>hobby filled with pseudoscience
>little competition
they're going to price their shit for maximum profit, which means the highest price that customers are still willing to pay
luckily for them, audiotards love wasting money
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>>103285397
Snake oil/Pseudoscience runs rampant in the audio hobby
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>>103285408
>>103285421
>>103285428
>>103285442
So they all sound the same, right? My old $15 MP3 player connected to a DAC that outputs to my speakers is the same sound quality as a $2000 one in the same setup?

I might just get a $50 smartphone. I just want a dedicated music player at home so I don't need to care about storage or battery life and all that shit.
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>>103285397
1. SOTA chips like AK4191 + AK4499EX and ES9039Pro aren't cheap.
2. High-end audio players are basically smartphones and it's not easy to engineer like a small chink company.
3. Small chink companies don't have the bargaining power like Samsung or Apple to buy parts for cheap.
4. Refer to point 2 for DAPs using R2R/1-bit/Tube technology. Tubes require a properly designed suspension system within the DAP so as not to sound microphonic as fuck,
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The way I see it, shit like the FiiO M17 is meant for people who want the equivalent of a full sized audio stack powerful enough to drive passive speakers and high impedance studio headphones and shelves worth of CD albums in a portable battery powered form. A very specific product, not meant for people who want a pocketable music player akin to those from 15 years ago.
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>>103285487
The rise of smartphones basically killed cheap DAPs because for the likes of normies, their phones are 'good enough'. So DAP manufacturers started to cater to the whales and you end up with shit like the M17.

It was only after Apple killed off the headphone jack that low-end DAPs started to have a niche again which is why we see cheaper stuff like the Hiby R4 and JM21.
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>>103284744
https://samaudiosg.com/collections/all-products/products/%F0%9F%8E%B6sg-tanchjim-bunny-dmt-4-ultra-in-ear-monitors-iem but idk if there's global shipping better to wait for hifigo/shenzhenaudio stock it up
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https://moondroplab.com/en/products/littlewhite

Are these any good? I'm looking for something to use in the gym.

Also, what are some awesome deals to snag on Aliexpress?
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>TDM absolutely TEARING deuce a new one
holy fuaaark my knees...
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>>103285718
no wait for moondrop bigblack
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>>103285718
>$90
Audiofool really know how to rip off their customers.
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>>103285718
This is some seriously autistic shit, just get TWS ffs.
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>>103286030
I want something to use interchangeably with my IEMs. I own a BTR5, but it's not suitable for working out.
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>>103286037
>working out
That's what tws/cheap earbuds are for
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>>103286059
There's this one issue with the Moondrop Space Travel's ANC where when someone drops a heavy stack on a machine, it seems to trip out trying to cancel that *CLANK* noise and drives needles in my ears. Otherwise, that's what I use, but it leaves much more to be desired from an IEM.
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>>103283929
>objectively
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>>103286092
It goes crazy doing that when it tries to cancel out my weed whacker. I just disable the ANC for weed whacking and then turn it back on for leaf blowing.
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How much will my earphones get fucked if I keep changing the cables?
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>>103286037
Jesus Christ anon. Just get some $20 tws and pair em with your phone. You're not at the gym to appreciate your music.
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>>103286169
So it's not just me. Because I have 2 of em and they both have the same problem.
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>>103286194
But I do.
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>>103286200
It's just a limitation of ANC technology. It's good at cancelling continuous noise and bad at transients.
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>>103286212
I guess.
Unrelated, what do you think of planars on IEMs? I'm eyeing the Timeless atm.
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>>103286228
I've only heard the Tin P1 and the Dioko. I like the P1 a lot better. From looking at graphs (and from seeing Audeze's bizarre products a few years ago), it seems like they have some trouble tuning them. I like them in full-size headphones, but that's a very different application.
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>>103286130
Considering AES says it's better than Harman, I'm more inclined to agree and take their opinion as fact over Sean Olive.
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reminder that any post about targets is completely retarded and to only follow the eq guide
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>>103286257
I'm such a greedy piece of shit. I'm also looking at the Hifiman edition xs for a planar option. I own an HD600 which is nice, but I wanna know what planars are all about.
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>>103285718
Uhh.. what's the point of CS chip when it'll pass through Bluetooth chip anyway? Am i the idiot one here?
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>>103286303
nta but any difference between driver types will be perceived in FR, not inherent qualities of said driver types
for iems, not important, for headpos, quite a lot
>>103286306
dac chip for low noise floor and distortion
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new budget queen
add that to the OP
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/jcally-jm20-headphone-dongle-review.58749/
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>>103286267
The AES paper was actually made by Sean Olive. Soundguys new meta comes out on top, then Harman 2019. So yeah, the "only untrained listeners prefer less bass" argument is outdated.
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damn, nicehck nx8 looks decent, basically a cheaper awful p7
>>103286331
nice to see confirmation, agreed on op addition
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Where my cluster 4 transbros at??
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>>103286267
>>103286337
can you read the picture before you reply with your clueless drivel you fucking ape
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>>103286400
Not the same anon, you wit. Are you deficient in iq? I even purposely only showed you a picture in case words are too hard.
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harmen...it's over...
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>>103286463
>deaf niggas prefer harman which was the target sound for years
Not surprised considering this hobby is filled with boomers.
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I was going to ask what was a good choice for just a cheap workout/general working set of earbuds, mostly for podcasts, people are saying these moondrop space travel ones? Do they actually have anime girls speak when you adjust the settings or whatever? Pretty funny.
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>>103286677
>people are saying these moondrop space travel ones
the only choice for budget tws focused on sound quality. you should look through scarbir.com if you put more weight on ipx rating, connectivity, fit stability, etc.
>Do they actually have anime girls speak when you adjust the settings or whatever?
you can adjust between normal and cute anime waifu voices iirc, but yes
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>>103286677
Whats ur budget bro?? Snoy XM5 are bretty good in tech
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>>103286463
>>103286489
that's not what this diagram says
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>>103286874
what does it say?
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>>103283943
Incelphones
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>>103283929
crinacle's 5128 measurements are broken because he only has the ear and not the head. crinacle's 711 graph are closer to what the bass response is like, zero 2 and chu 2 have niggerish bass out of the box but the subbass isn't exaggerated vs the midbass like your pic suggests
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>>103287114
>711 (IEC711) + 4 (IEC 60318-4)
mark of the devil, we shall not fall for your bait.
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>>103287131
use a tone generator, the subbass is cringe if you
EQ to JM-1
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>>103287145
no thanks, i'll stick to the eq guide
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>>103286966
difference between harman and soundguys is in the margin of error
also number of participants is very low
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>>103287175
oh that, i thought i was reading the graph completely wrong, no yeah you're 100% right, i was just joking around
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soundguys has nerfed upper mids so it might be less offensive to the average person but not the most accurate
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new endgame dac just drops-it costs $24
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or maybe if you'd display the graph differently with normalized average loudness the soundguys target is fairly neutral without the scooped lower mids
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>>103287199
>>103287228
the moa study shows that the average end target is closest to the dfmod target above 1khz
the soundguys target is both bassier and darker above ~2khz than the avg and cluster 1 end targets
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>>103287199
in a normal study harman will unironically win again...
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>>103287246
yeah my target pretty much looks like a bassier harman beta 2024. i'm only 1.7db below harman 2019, not sure how sean olive got such a drastic reduction in bass from 2019 to 2024.
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>>103287224
Didn't know Luna measures that well, common transjimmy W
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>>103287271
quick look at your end target is that you're a part of cluster 4 (ie quite bassier than the average, and darker treble in line with the avg) with less energy between 400-1000hz
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>>103287279
it's the best measuring dongle in terms of snr/sinad/thd+n behind the fosi dac, but has much more power
still overkill for iems and way too expensive, but a nice addition to a collection for sure
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/tanchjim-luna-portable-hp-amp-dac-review.58272/
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>>103287283
lol the harman boomer accuses me of being a deaf elderly woman >>103287306
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>>103287289
No it's too cheap, anime engraving is worth at least $500.
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>>103287271
>>103287306
>>103287311
have fun bickering amongst each other
>>103287316
>buy any cheap dongle
>slap on anime waifu sticker
fuck that whore!
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>>103287324
Troon coded post. It's like attaching a rotting flesh sausage to a vagina and calling it a dick.
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What's important is the difference between bass and treble. If you have more treble than bass then get into the class 3 corner.
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The only number that matters for IEMs is this.
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when will an IEM brand be brave enough to make their mascot a cute anthro instead of the ten billionth anime girl
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I'm about to buy an Aria 2.
Please convince me otherwise.
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>>103287785
They're already furries.
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>>103287922
Only if you like vocals, and willing to accept that after 2 years the paint will chip out. Otherwise buy the Zero Reds.
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>>103287785
I just need an Anthro Yuki or Asano pleasepleaseplease
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>>103286171
>How much will my earphones get fucked if I keep changing the cables?
Any cable and port has theoretical lifespan. Realistically just don't overdo it. Straight in, straight out, nothing should go wrong. You should consider it a replacement part i.e. don't mess with it unless it's dysfunctional. Some IEMs have QC issue where the slot is very tight, meaning you need to be even more cautious.

>>103286352
>nicehck nx8
Bleh I have very little faith in NiceHCK pos. Bad track record overall. Previous NX7 sold well, but had poor acoustic design, low quality drivers, etc. Now they're hiding the guts with opaque shell, and I don't think they've done much sincere R&D. The few graph samples don't look terrible, but it's far from a blind buy for me. I'd take an Aful around the same price any day.

>>103287922
>Aria 2
The paint is gonna chip in terribly ugly fashion. 1DD sub-$100 are very competitive and not vastly different in sound.
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>>103284332
>Apologize right now
more like condolences right now.

my condolence...
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>>103287922
Inawaken dawn ms, sivga que, kefine klean, ew300 are much more competitive
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>>103284380
No good pos costs over $30.
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>>103288701
>>103284390
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>>103288497
Like a transformed/anthrofied version? With slightly different EQ?
That would be fun. This stuff is kinda gimmick based anyways.
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>>103288341
Zero red looks interesting.
Should I trust the rice farmer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYLv4qKK36E
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>>103288835
dumb thicc nozzles. made for ogre ears
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>>103288843
I'm not a woman, having tiny ears is not a problem for me lol
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They finally released that pos...
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>>103288869
My ears are considered giant, my ear canal is also quite big, and all Truthear products are uncomfortable to me.
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>>103288835
do you know what target do you like?
if you like Harman get the Novas
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>>103288835
Yes. Trust the chink measurbator. Make sure to send him a letter calling him a fatass and should probably exercise.
In all honesty it's pretty good.
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I find the S12 Pro exhausting, is there a comfier sounding IEMs but sounds as nice as this?
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>>103289247



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