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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)
State budget and COUNTRY or you will not be helped

>12VHPWR
DO NOT USE ANGLED 12VHPWR ADAPTERS
Fully seat a 12VHPWR connector in its socket, otherwise the connection can melt.
https://youtu.be/ig2px7ofKhQ?t=1345

>Intel Raptor Lake / RPL Refresh
Instability reported with 13th and 14th gen, i5 K SKUs and above (incl non-K). Update BIOS and apply Intel Baseline settings. Avoid purchases.

>CPUS
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: i3 12100
Gaming: R5 7600; budget: i5 12600K; eXtreme: R7 9800X3D
Multicore: R9 9950X; budget: i5 13500
>Avoid iGPU-less CPUs
>Existing AM4 board with an old chip? Consider a Zen 3 CPU

>GRAPHICS CARDS
1080p: RTX 3060 12 GB / RTX 4060; budget: RX 6600; ultra budget: used RTX 2060 Super
1440p: RTX 4070 Super; budget: RX 7700 XT
2160p: RTX 4080 Super (at MSRP); budget: RTX 4070 Ti Super
Amateur production: RTX 3060 12GB, RTX 4060 Ti 16GB, used RTX 3090, RTX 4090

>RAM
DDR4: Zen3/AM4 - 2x 16GB 3600 MT/s CL18; for locked "non-K" 12th/13th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 3200 MT/s CL16
DDR5: Zen4/AM5 - 2x 16GB 6000 MT/s CL30; for unlocked "K" 13th/14th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 6400MT/s CL32

>COOLERS
Standout: Phantom Spirit (or variant)
https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>PSUS
A new PSU should be ATX 3.X compliant
Aim for 50-75% PSU utilization at full system load
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>SSDS
WD SN770 2TB
Avoid: outdated Samsung 970 Evo Plus, cheapest NVMe SSDs
https://ssd.borecraft.com/

>MOTHERBOARDS
Good power delivery is required for Intel CPUs like the i5 13600K and above
Don't pair a K CPU with a B mobo chipset

>GAMING MONITORS
AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI MPG 321URX, Dell G2724D
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/dP3v4D

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Building a passive/fanless pc.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zf3Psp
Anything i should change or add?
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Soooo when are they gonna panic release pre-tariffs
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>>103282568
UE5 has not been kind to the VRAM memers
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Will battlemage be worth it at all?
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>>103282600
Never. They'll obstruct orangeman's every step until January.
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>>103282568
>Old OP doesnt have updated CPU recs.
>CPU
Gaming: 12400, 7600, 9800X3D; for existing AM4 users: 5700X3D
Workstation: 265K, 9900X, 9950X
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Nvidia cards/drivers are much better for old game since older games tend to be specificially optimized for some gay NVIDIA old technology. AMD is such a fucking letdown trying to play some old games.
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>>103282618
will battlemage be at all?
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>>103282600
tariffs make them delay

why release now at whatever MSRP they have then get screwed over when they jack it over MSRP
better to just delay and jack up MSRP when no one knows what they initially planned MSRP for
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>>103282626
Will battlemage be?
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Should I be worried that the core voltage in the bios screen is 1.42V for my 7950x? I thought it was usually below 1.4V.
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>>103282633
put a hard limit if scared and stop using auto settings
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>>103282650
Should I be scared? I don't care about power usage really, and the chip isn't too hot under load. I'm only worried about longevity.
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I just got a new M.2 SSD that I intend to replace my current SATA III SSD boot drive with, but EaseUS and Macrium Reflect don't let you clone drives on the free trial versions. What are my options?
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How does hardware unboxed test the USB ports in the reviews? I'd like to do it myself to see the speeds.
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>>103282609
Also keep in mind how much shilling comes out of AMDumboxed
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>>103282568
Retard OP is back
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Which manufacturing process will Battlemage dGPUs use?
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From 1070 to 4070S. MSI isn't even that much bigger considering all the other 3 fan cards are 330mm or more.
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>Have:
ROG X670E Hero
R9 7950X
G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 2x32GB DDR5-6000 CL30

>Want:
DDR5 128GB minimum - 192GB desired
running at 5200MHz minimum - 6000MHz desired

Thanks to the Anon that replied in the other thread, I narrowed down my conundrum to three options:

a) I buy another G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 2x32GB DDR5-6000 CL30 kit for £210.
b) I buy TWO premium 2x48GB@6000MHz kits - Corsair Vengeance 2 x 48 GB DDR5-6000 CL30 - for £600-£638 (£319 each for the XMP variants or £300 apiece if I preorder the EXPO variants).
c) I buy the QVL 4x48GB@5200MHz kit: Corsair Vengeance 4x 48GB DDR5-5200 CL38 Memory for £591.

What do you guys think?
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>>103282673
Most often it's best to do a reinstall IMHODESU. It won't take as long as you think and you'll end up with a fresh new system ready to be messed up again.
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>>103282622
The CPU recommendations are updated, although I just checked pricing and I'll be replacing the 9950X with the 7950X again

>>103282585
Why even bother with a dGPU

>>103282689
Honestly I would have tried to waitTM a couple of months. The 5070 will be released with the first round of RTX 50 cards
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>>103282689
I have that exact same 1070 but I'm considering a 7900XT. How much did you pay for the 4070S?
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I bought an 8800XT from the Chinaman.
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>>103282700
Option a) seems the most sane, why the fuck do you need more than 128GB of memory?
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>>103282757
>How much did you pay for the 4070S?
18 000CZK.
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Woke up this morning to find out that one of my monitors is dead. Any recs for something cheap at 1080p that uses displayport? Its a multitasking monitor.
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>>103282768
Huh, it's like 10% cheaper where I live and I still consider it overpriced. Not gonna argue with your choice though, enjoy it.
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>>103282770
kijiji or facebook marketplace
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Do AM4 X3D chips get the same boost from 3600mhz RAM as non-X3D?
Thinking about upgrading from 16GB to 32GB (currently have 3200/CL16) but dunno whether I should "waste" more money on 3600/16/18 or just stick with 3200/16 if only for better compatibility out of the box. I'm not a total tech retard so I can try tweaking timings and whatever if it doesn't work but I'd rather go the plug-n-play enable XMP it just werks approach.
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Built PC. What benchmarks should I use?
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>>103282767
It's one of those needs vs wants thing. I don't 'need' more than 128GB, but if I have it - I will use it.

My use case is local dashboards (PowerBI for instance) and many VMs. I play video games on this machine too, but can tolerate a bit of a performance hit.
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>>103282667
I don't know about AMD CPUs, but people usually recommend setting a 1.45V voltage regulator output cap for Intel CPUs.
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i rank builds by how well they can run ida pro in a vmware windows 11 guest without stuttering or crashing
i do not care about your average fps in forza or hogwarts legacy
it's time to stop.
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>>103282568
>changing the OP to give shittier recommendations
for what purpose?
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>>103282790
If you already have a 58X3D better memory could be an option to squeeze the most out of the platform but for a 57X3D I wouldn't bother.
>>103282802
3DMark for meaningful results, Factorio for autism.
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>50 series releases January CES
no! f u
release it NOW
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Do I screw the support bracket in first and then the gpu?
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>>103282802
OCCT should give balanced coverage.
y-Cruncher has good stress tests, VT3 for stressing the CPU's memory controller.
Prime95 SmallFFT puts a torture load on the CPU, don't run this unless you've set safe power/current limits.
Memtest86+ to see if there's a problem with your memory sticks, don't enable XMP/EXPO.
There are paid tests like Karhu for memory testing.
Unigine Superposition 8K, 3DMark Speed Way and Steel Nomad to test the GPU. Especially if you're OC or undervolting it.

The memory-related ones aren't needed unless your PC has instabilities or you're manually tuning the system memory.
OCCT and Memtest86+ should be enough to check whether you got a faulty component.
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>>103282859
I've been waiting for so long that it doesn't even matter anymore. The truth is good games died before GPU prices became obscene.
>t. R9 280X user
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>>103282869
It's not standardized - RTM.
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>>103282887
i upgraded from a 380 a couple years ago, integrated graphics is prob better than 280 at this point
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>>103282887
>280x
That was like 10-15 years ago
What do you even play on it?
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>>103282849
>>103282685
Fix the graphics card recommendations and I won't have a reason to post

Garbage:
1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT
1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE
2160p: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTX
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What laptop do I get for programming? 1500€ to spend
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>>103282887
I don't have a gpu currently (I'm an idiot) so either I wait and do fuck all for two months, or get some 4080 now and have it beaten in two months
I'm in a really shitty position which is why I keep farting about the stupid next gen needing to be released sooner
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>>103282924
I think the newest game I bothered to play was Doom 2016. Like 70% of my playtime is on PS2-era and older games, the rest is Factorio.
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>>103282961
If you have good internet try Nvidia's cloud gaming thing, really saved me from making a dumb purchase when my GPU was being serviced.
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>>103282790
No, scaling is much lower because so many data fetches don't even leave the cache. However, I would definitely get 3600C18 as a minimum because there's no real price difference. Going up to 3600C16 is around $20 now which is hard to justify on a DDR4 system.
It does have one advantage in binning though - if you've got a borderline motherboard, say a B350 or cheap B450, then getting 3600C16* means you're not as subject to the DRAM lottery because only a few ICs can hit that speed reliably. Might be the difference between stability and not.

*By which I mean 3600-16-19-19 @ 1.35V. CAS latency scales with voltage so beware "trap" kits with eg. 16-22-22@1.5V. Those are bad bins.
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Need to get a new PC for work and want to know if I should just pull the trigger now or wait into next week for better deals. Never get anything tech for black Friday for years so no idea how the game works now. In Canada if that helps.
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>>103283013
For work? If it's your work paying I suggest dual 4090s with two threadrippers.
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>be me
>buy arc a380 when it launched for $100
>comfy 1080p gaming
anybody that buys a gpu over $300 is retarded regardless of how much money you make
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>>103283013
>for work
just get a used optiplex
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>>103282609
because vram is for mostly lightmaps but ue5 is trying to sell lumen, you vaxxed muttgolem
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>>103282946
-> /tpg/
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>>103282681
Also keep in mind to get your bi-weekly booster shots, otherwise it will not be save and effective
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>>103283025
cope levels at maximum
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>>103283013
Basically never:
CPUs, video cards
Commodity products that will get BF advertising:
RAM, PSUs, internal storage
Won't beat the spread but maybe you get a deal on something more interesting:
Coolers, mobos, cases
Moderate discount:
Monitors, speakers, normie headphones/sets
Real discount:
Other peripherals, external storage
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https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-arc-b580-has-been-leaked-first-battlemage-graphics-card-features-12gb-vram
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-b580-gpu-has-tdp-lower-than-225w-and-pcie-5-0x8-interface

INTEL WON

THANK YOU INTEL
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>>103283099
So they'll actually have a somewhat competitive product on the market for like 2 months? Better than I expected, honestly.
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>>103282609
Regardless of
>muh brand
UE5 is fucking piece of shit, even worse than UE4.
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>>103283099
>580
if this is the low end model it's promising
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>>103283111
This really is the problem.
>releasing their new gen of cards right as their competitors are going to begin releasing their next gen of cards
It's like being the last company to enter into the VCR market as everyone else is moving into DVD players.
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So do I kill myself now? This cable is actually shit. Is the taped part the limit of bending I can do? It was like 5cm or so?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZpXmGJ

Any recommendations for PSU/Case for this build?
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>>103283020
Paying it myself (private contractor) so can't go tooo crazy. I have keyed in what I need, just seeing if I hold a few more days or get the equipment here ASAP so I can boost my capabilities. There is a postal strike so it's not like I'm gonna get it right away.
>>103283090
Thanks for the breakdown.

Additional inquiry, I'm scouting 3090s for graphics. Any recommendations for brands? I spotted a founders edition for a decent deal, want to know if a navidia built card have any gotchas
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>>103283165
The tape just holds the sleeve, doesn't it? Can't you just cut it out?
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Good Deal for MicroATX?
Noticing a lot of MSI Mobos are on sale in general atm
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>>103283020
don't forget two titanium rated 1600W power supply units and that one $800 case that got an honorable mention in today's Gamersnexus case rankings
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>>103283240
And Naaktwah spinners.
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>>103283221
All 3090s have the problem of insufficient VRAM cooling; half the chips were on the backside of the PCB. With 99% of used ones being used for Eth mining there's a real chance it'll die on you. The 3090Ti fixed things but they're generally much more expensive - often the same price as a new 4070TiS so only bother if you absolutely need >16GB.
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>>103283099
>>103283159
wait it's pcie 5.0 DOA
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>>103283165
Here you go, sweetie:
https://www.moddiy.com/products/ATX-3.0-PCIe-5.0-600W-12VHPWR-16-Pin-90-Degree-Angled-Extension-Cable.html
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>>103283164
it's almost like they are new to the dgpu market
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>>103283099
B580 will be the affordable king but I am interested to see the B770/780 if they plan on releasing it and how high Intel will aim for.
>>103283111
Does it matter if Nvidia and AMD aren't going to compete in the low end? Are you expecting their last gen products to drop to match the B580? I doubt it highly. Intel is trading off margin for market share on the other hand as seen with Alchemist.
>>103283268
You don't need PCIe 5.0 on a low end card.
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>>103283089
Spend your money on more important stuff in life, buying a 4080 or 5090 to play the latest broken, unoptimized AAALGBQT+ titles + battle pass + skins is retarded and if you don't realize it now, you will in the future
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>>103283273
Weren't the angled 12V haram? Are they good now?
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>>103283278
I am aware they are, but the issue is that they will probably price these cards (I haven't looked to see if they have mentioned an MSRP) at about the same level as AMD. Except AMD is going to be releasing new cards soonish, and presumably stick near the same price point as the current generation. Meaning that it makes no sense to buy these cards unless you specifically want something outdated and overpriced compared to the competitors on a per dollar basis. If Intel is always playing catch up, they will never be able to carve out a part of the market for themselves for dedicated GPUs. That's my criticism. Whatever their plans are for what comes after this is going to require them to leapfrog into the next generation so they aren't always behind. It's going to have to happen at some point or no one will ever even consider them as a valid third-option.
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>>103283313
That was CableMod. This is Moddiy. Different company. If you're worried, ask around first.
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>>103283307
I can also play older games that look nice and are optimized anon.
you are literally coping.

some poeple play 1080p some people play 4k who gives a fuck
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How necessary is GPU risers?
I have a makeshift one made out of bottlecaps.
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>>103283288
At its price point, Battlemage competes with used cards, not stock clearances, and Intel should really fear that.
>>103283307
I would unironically agree with you if you told me this anywhere else except on this cesspool of a website. We don't have anything important going on in our lives and we're not happy nor able to be so stop LARPing, you faggot.
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>>103282700
Think I may go for two pairs of these, boys, what do you think?
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>>103283345
everything you say is speculation
>If Intel is always playing catch up, they will never be able to carve out a part of the market for themselves for dedicated GPUs
amd has been playing catch up with nvidia for over a decade

intel already won by showing up, furthermore battlemage is basically their 2nd gen dgpu, it takes at least 3 product variations to get things right, intel is fine as long as they don't give up on dgpu and i'm sure they will either reach parity with amd or surpass them even, intel already does better software than amd, xess is better than fsr and xess 2 will be even better, intel will surpass them in ray tracing.
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>>103283385
very expensive for okay RAM. are all euro prices that high?
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>>103283365
>I can also play older games
older games don't require $400-$1000 gpus

that's my whole point you fool
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Why are so many people complaining about CPU prices? Mid-top range are under $400. Same as 10 years ago even accounting for inflation.
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Day 597 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
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>>103283426
Ryzen 9 7950X is like $700 and it's top of the line how the fuck are people saying CPUs are expensive?
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>>103283410
This price is very attractive based on this market.
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>>103283381
>I would unironically agree with you if you told me this anywhere else except on this cesspool of a website. We don't have anything important going on in our lives and we're not happy nor able to be so stop LARPing, you faggot.
so you mask your pain by spending money on pc hardware? gaming is more enjoyable when you actually have something going on for yourself and are happy in other aspects of life. at least you're aware that you've got a problem anon, your next option is to either fix it or keep living in consumer misery.
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>>103283418
yes they do anon. maxing the witcher 3 or rdr2 at 4k max definitly needs a 90 class gpu.. \

>inb4 those arent old
the witcher 3 is 9 years old
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>>103283407
You're right about AMD always being behind, but AMD has always been in the ballpark and priced themselves accordingly. And right now we're talking about Intel. Y'know, the company at risk of having to file for Chapter 11. They won't, but the mismanagement is there... Could they pivot hard into GPUs? Perhaps. There is a good argument to be made that it's a much healthier sector than CPUs, but it's going to be a while before I think we see them capable of doing something materially different that makes them worth putting your money into.
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>>103282850
57X3D
>>103283002
Got a B450M Mortar Max but as far as no price difference, unfortunately shit country so price difference is a thing here as well as somewhat limited variety of RAM.
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>>103283373
Do you like having a working GPU? Just build one out of LEGOs and call it a day.
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What? Battlemage will need pci-e 5.0?
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If I put in the ARGB 3-pin plug from the ENDORFY AIO in the Gen2 sockets from the ASUS mobo will this work?
how do I control them/change colors? bios? mobo desktop software?
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>>103283264
Need the GB to do my job. Mostly LLM tomfoolery. I'll keep you advice in mind. Thanks!
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>>103283460
>AMD has always been in the ballpark and priced themselves accordingly
and? people still buy nvidia over amd regardless what the price is at every single tier 1060 2060 3060 4060, etc., nvidia's top end gpu sold more than the entire radeon lineup. so how the hell do you say amd is priced accordingly when they don't even sell? intel will never go bankrupt because they are essential to the US government, especially for department of defense, also stop moving the goal posts.
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>>103283471
>so price difference is a thing here
Okay then yeah just stick to 3200-16-18-18. When I did this upgrade I paid an extra $10 for 3600C16 and that's about the most it'd be worth.
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>>103283099
>The bad news is that you will need a PCIe 5.0 motherboard
Am I retarded or does this mean that PCIe5 is not backwards compatible and I can't use it on a P3.0 board?
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>>103283482
>>103283528
PCIe 5.0 is fully backwards compatible with previous generations of PCIe slots. This means you can use PCIe 5.0 hardware in PCIe 4.0, 3.0, or even 2.0 slots. However, the device will operate at the speed of the oldest slot, so a PCIe 5.0 device in a PCIe 4.0 slot will run at PCIe 4.0 speeds.
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>>103282568
Battlemage Bros... We're here.
>>103283460
>AMD prices accordingly
if they did they'd actually sell their GPUs
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>>103283099
MLID IN FUCKING SHAMBLES
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>>103283546
My main issue is that it uses 8 pins out of 16. So I assume it's gonna be very limited in a gen 4 slot. Half PCI-E 4.0 speed.
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Someone suggest me a good programming workstation laptop
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>>103283568
Some used Thinkpad idk
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>>103283556
>if they did they'd actually sell their GPUs
These are the anons that buy the latest and greatest hardware for thousands of dollars every gen, they don't know what they are talking about... it's almost always AMD shills
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>>103283025
*buys 5090 on release*
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>>103283566
>pcie 5.0 product
>on 4.0 slot
>operating at 4.0 speeds and not 5.0 speeds
ok, and?

regardless if it was pcie 5.0 x8 or x16 you're still going to be limited because you're running it on pcie 4.0 slot... you fool!
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>>103283381
Used cards are going for sky high for that tier of card. Are you expecting the used market to price them down unconditionally after the official announcement with Intel's claims with them being this new? Only after the B580 hits the shelves would any price adjustments affect the used market and it wouldn't do that instantaneously.
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>>103283607
Yeah but it will interface with the gen 4 slot at half of it's lanes only. Is that not a problem?
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Where have all the p14 max fans gone?
I had them in my cart last night...
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>>103283106
That fit must be satisfying
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>>103283657
anon, you're running a pcie 5 product on a pcie 4 slot... it's going to be limited either way, regardless if it's x8 or x16 - this is not a problem, this is just how tech works... however, the gpu is going to be functional just fine.
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>>103283657
Gamers nexus benched x16 3.0 vs x16 4.0 on the 4090 and there was less than a 3% difference between the 2. Since gen 3 is ½ of gen 4, 8 lanes of gen 4 is basically equivalent to 16 lanes of gen 3.
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>>103283436
>waiting to get raped by tariffs for an average product
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Thoughts on the MSI MAG 274UPF E2 monitor?
Want an affordable 4k high refresh rate that's good for consooming content and some gaming.
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>>103283712
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/msi/mag-274upf
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>>103283657
>>Yeah but it will interface with the gen 4 slot at half of it's lanes only.
No it'll interface at half the speed not half the lanes
if it was half the lanes then yes it'd actually be a problem
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>>103283700
Alright, I didn't know gen3 was that current.
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>>103282585
Yeah, you forgot to add that being a massive faggot is a requirement for building a passive/fanless PC.
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>>103283689
My dude, the 4090 can't even use half the bandwidth of PCIE 4.0. Companies that make risers to do vertical mounts aren't even going to bother creating 5.0 versions of their cables unless the 5090 specifically requires it, I've already looked and asked a couple of them. They all say the same thing. If they need to, they'll make it. If they don't, they won't. PCIE 5.0 is unironically a meme for shit that isn't enterprise grade and pushing 1000w+ through it while capable of more FLOPS than the best supercomputer in the world could pull off in like 2004 all on its own.
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>>103283731
It's not but GPU PCIe bandwidth requirements haven't increased as quickly as PCIe speeds have increased
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>>103283729
>if it was half the lanes then yes it'd actually be a problem

Uh...
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>>103283743
Why do you like pc noise so much?
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>>103283752
What this guy said. It's much easier to just make a new standard capable of handling more bandwidth than it is to make the hardware that requires the bandwidth capacity. It unironically could 2030+ before we actually "need" PCIe 5.0.
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>>103283712
144 isnt high anymore, it's firmly mid refresh at best and it's lcd and ips so even slower than that
I'm gonna say regardless to just buy an oled
and 27 4k you gonna be at 160ppi, either you have lazervision or you will be losing alot of real estate just for pixelpeeping and scaling, in which case you could have gotten a larger one for more usable things all around
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>>103283047
>>103283060
>vax
Excellent argument, poorfag
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>>103283313
>>103283355
Only the angled adapters had issues (adapter that you plug an existing 12vhpwr cable in and it you get a 90 degree 12vhpwr as the output)
Actual cables terminated with a 90 degree plug where never an issue. Even from cablemod.
IDK why this detail is missed.

I have a moddiy cable, seems to work just fine although I only have a 4080, little expensive at $35 for 24" cable and it took 2 weeks to get here with the $10 shipping. I pick the silicone wiring and it makes me want all my PSU cables in silicone
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>>103283791
XeSS soon.
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>>103282585
>passively cooling am5
>buying a 3050
2 fans are not loud enough to endure this headache anon
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>>103282609
>>103282681
>>103282928
Reminder to filter GeForce bro and his vehemently dogshit opinions that likely aren't even his own, he enjoys all modern AAA running like dogshit so he can peddle off "features" like upscaling and RT when there hasn't been any game to utilize it in a functional manor since Exodus EE.
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>>103283847
Noctua compatibility lists says the 7600 is good.
>buying a 3050
There is no other good fanless gpu.
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>Rear fan in Chassis fan 1 slot
>all my other case fans are in a controller which is in chassis fan slot 2
>CPU cooler in the CPU fan slot
>FanControl picks up the CPU Cooler with the stuff in Chassis 2 into one slot
Is this a BIOS setting cause I would expect this to show up as 3 separate settings on FanControl.
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>replacing 2600x with a 5700x3d on Monday, updated ASROCK x470 BIOS today to prepare for it
>BIOS update thankfully goes smooth
>but notice PC sounds a little different at idle
>turns out whenever the ryzen idle temp spikes the fans ramp up a ton, and it's constantly spiking from 50 to 60 so I constantly hear the fans ramping up/down
wtf? I don't ever remember doing anything with the fan curve when I first built this thing. I couldn't even tell the difference between the noise of my CPU fan and my GPU fan until now
what should I set this to? It's just the stock ryzen fan
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>>103283875
what I'm getting at is a 5700x3D and 4060 would obliterate the performance of your list and you still wouldn't be able to hear them
especially if you undervolted, enabled eco mode, and deshrouded
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came back from store, you can tell what screens are OLED before even looking at product label
do they just set up the brightness really high for OLED screens vs LCD or are they just really vibrant

I'm pretty much sold even if it will only last 3 years
you only get 3 years in your life maybe 20 times
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>>103283922
You're right but i want a fanless pc
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>>103283900
FanControl and change the ramp up % settings
also get a good cooler, they're dirt cheap
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>>103283932
>also get a good cooler, they're dirt cheap
already got a phantom spirit on the way, it's the last thing I need before I can finally upgrade
sorta torturous to have my new CPU/GPU just sitting there and I can't do anything until then
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>>103283930
anon you wouldn't be able to hear either setup even with fans
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Halp.

So i have a PCIe 5.0 M.2 slot on my motherboard, and some regular cheapish M.2 ssd I want to use as my boot drive that I've had for several years. Should I put it in the 5.0 slot or a different one?
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>>103283965
unless you're editing massive videos or moving massive files you won't be able to tell the difference
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>>103283924
>came back from store, you can tell what screens are OLED before even looking at product label
this is also because 99% of the lcds are matte slop and you can just see that hazy shit and lets say all the oled laptops are glossy, you instantly see the contrast and saturation and glossy, all of which is improved by the glossy finish and oled itself, so yes, you have to be retarded not to, even 4k on a tiny laptop screen looks crispier and better compared to something lower res

>do they just set up the brightness really high for OLED screens vs LCD or are they just really vibrant
literally configure it yourself, I will say some tvs with a decent finish and miniled look good too and have lots of brightness, but yeah

>I'm pretty much sold even if it will only last 3 years
>you only get 3 years in your life maybe 20 times
I'm just bored of lcd and boring tech at this point, for me to build new shit I want some new tech to be exited about and try, and this is it
it's cheap enough to not cope forever for even if you are remotely poor, and in other cases literally just earn more money

the final decision is pretty much only if im gonna pick up a c4 42 or a 32 qdoled, would have considered even samsung but s90d's in europe are woleds and not qdoleds so smallest size is 65 and fuck that right now
for tvs later i might go 77-83
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>AM4 CPU, X470 board
>disable C-states
>disable CoolNQuiet
>turn LLC to max setting
>change power plan to high performance (minimum CPU state 100%)
>latency goes down, as intended
>temps also go down, particularly in idle
Huh?
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>>103283025
Yeah but does the arc a380 work on linux?
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>>103283025
Isn't it like a GTX 970 in performance? Sounds comfy desu.
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>>103283978
yeah wish i had more disposable income to also replace the tv

just wish 4K was more accessible, i remember thinking wow it'd be nice to shitpost and game in 4K since 2020 and now it's almost 2025 and it still feels too wasteful right now
though i def think the vibrant colors of OLED is a far better upgrade than higher DPI so i'll go for a 27" 1440p OLED which is more reasonably priced with the Black Friday deals
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>>103283946
update: x470 master SLI does not seem to have a option specifically for ramp up speed, just the fan curve
guess I can live with this for the day or two until the swap...
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>>103283857
>RT
There's no hardware RT in any of those benchmarks. Here's some with hardware RT, and of course since Radeon has only garbage reconstruction available to it, of course Geforce is more like 4x as fast. And keep in mind these are the 'good' RT implementations according to AMDumboxed

>>103283844
>XeSS soon
Not as good as DLSS, and of course there's often a substantial performance penalty on Radeon. XeSS is also the least dev implemented and most dev botched of the the three algos (unfortunately). Hopefully XeSS continues to improve and FSR4 finally becomes good, approximately five (5) years after DLSS got good
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>>103283264
I almost want to respect Ngreedia for fucking over Eth minercucks like this
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>>103283955
I have tried quiet fans and custom fan curves and nothing changed. I need a fanless pc to live.
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>>103282802
play games you're very familiar with and see if you can notice any changes
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Hey can I get some advice on how to repair an external hard-drive?

The case melted slightly, but I think the problem is just the thing connecting the case to the wire (I don't know any of the technical names for this). So I think everything to do with all the microchips inside the thing is fine, if I can just replace the connector I could access all the data on it, and put it onto something else.

Took it to a couple of phone-repair guys who didn't know what they were looking at, I was referred to a data-recovery center that's based in California whose starting bid was $700.

I feel like all I really need to do is find a guy who can like swap out the connector part, or just like access the microchips in the hard-drive, and I could get it done for like $200. Where would I go to try to get this done or looked at?
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>The case melted slightly
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>>103284159
>power washes the card and sells it to used in "Like New" condition
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>>103284169
>follow this advice
>see zero difference
>realize I don't play anything made in the last decade
>feel scammed
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>>103284199
I've seen cryptogoylems sell xx90 cards for less than $100.
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>>103284197
How
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>>103284193
My brother in Christ, if it's an external hard drive just take out of the housing and connect it directly to your computer via a SATA cable. Or if you can't be bothered to do that, buy a new housing. Or if you take it out and shit's melted then, lol, lmao. Extra lol lmao if you are referring to a SATA SSD.
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>>103284208
It is lightly used it is good deal it is good deal see five starr ratting.
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>>103283975
So do I leave the slot open or just use my drive in it? Its the only M.2 drive I have, and its 500gb. Leave it open for a future 2TB or something when they get cheaper?

Side question, would it help in something like LoRA training or similar AI work?
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>>103284107
the absolute cheapest 1440p240hz oled right here is 520€ and I can get a c4 42" for 720€ the difference is not big, with some coupons
4k has been accessible since the lg cx days, lg b series 55" went for 700€ long ago
now running it in 120hz 4k native is another thing
the aoc 27 1440p240hz qdoled is by far the cheapest here atleast
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>>103284260
just use the first slot
not a clue desu, I assume gpus are the main bottleneck
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>>103284230
Yeah, assume the only acronym I know is USB. I'm posting on here because I DON'T know what it is I'm looking at.

Anyway the first phone-repair guy took it out of the casing, and plugged in some USB cables and didn't work, so it's not just the cable, like I said I think the problem is with the cable-port, and that needs replacing.

If there are other ways to stick something into it to access the chips on it, I'd like to know.
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>>103284026
temps go down because you're running at base clock
disabling C-states on ryzen is retarded
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>>103284304
Oh my god, just post pictures of it. You have a phone.
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My strength is waning brahs...
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>>103283126
>UE5 is fucking piece of shit, even worse than UE4.
wrong, it's better. it's just that it fully supports new technology which you cannot afford. therefore because of your terrible money situation you feel left out.
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>>103284402
nta but wow omegacope
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>>103284401
economy of scale bros we are getting closer
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>>103284401
MSI MPG 321URX or bust
Not more expensive to run 4K than it is to run 1080p
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>>103284345
Here it is. Camera's blurry I need to replace my phone while I'm at it (but that costs money).

So yeah, there's a big dent. Again I don't think that's the problem, I think it's the USB-port that is the problem. I think it's just not connecting the wire to my computer when I plug it in. I think electricity is arcing between it because when I plug it in, it heats up and I can hear a buzzing sound. The usb-cable itself works just fine.
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Does thermal paste degrade in its tube? I have some from like 5 years ago sitting around that ive used in the past. Prolly dumb question but I'm good right?
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>>103284463
>more latency
subtract another 3 fps from the left side
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>>103284464
Remove the housing. That looks like a 2.5" drive for a laptop. It should have a SATA connector.
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>>103284483
Why would you think there's more latency on the left
No Frame Gen is in use
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>>103284464
Fucking lord, how did that happen?
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>>103284471
depends on what type but it can age out in the tube
its not gonna fry anything but it may be less than optimal
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>>103284514
Whatever you think that means, it doesn't
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>>103284193
>700
Can you share this data-recovery center's name? I have a few HDDs that I need to recover and I'm pretty certain Rossmann wants to charge like 1500 per.
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week 3 of waiting x670e and 96gb ram

9800x3d bros i cant take it anymore
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>be russian
>4080 super costs 2500$
Unironically been thinking traveling to Mexico and jumping the fence
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>>103282859
your funny total paper launch we probably wont see them at all like the 4090 and get some faggy gay cut down version like a 5090 d
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any 3d printer recommendations for printing sff pc cases
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>>103283106
same thing happened to my valkyrie 480mm aio and case and my 79xtx pulse barely fit and the case is huge biggest E-atx ive seen
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I bought this thing off Amazon. I really want a black and white (primarily black, secondary white) mouse and keyboard pad. The length is fine, but it isn't as wide as I would like. And the quality is iffy, which isn't surprising given that it was 8 bucks, but I couldn't find anything else like it in stock. Drop has a couple of larger ones, but I'm not really interested in the designs and they take forever to ship shit.
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>>103283165
works on my 3x8pin
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>>103284142
No point in arguing with GeForce bro, he'll just post and misconstrue another bench chart and scream DLSS to the sky when it's impossible to run the game without upscaling, just filter and do your own research.
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are proprietary motherboards/PSUs in prebuilts really bad?
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>>103284501
Again, I ask, what the fucks a SATA?
>>103284520
I don't know. My suspicion is that there was electricity arcing between the usb-cable and the port. Because when I plug it in, it starts to hear up and I can hear a buzzing coming from it when I hold it to my ear.

Now I was running a program on it all night (just never bothered to shut it off) that requires some juice so I didn't think it getting hot was too unusual. What happened is I sat my laptop atop the hard-drive, and it must have gotten so hot that the weight of the laptop deformed it. Now at the moment I noticed this, it was so hot I was like 'yikes unplug this motherfucker now'.

Again my suspicion is more the USB port is damaged and needs replacing.
>>103284531
DriveSavers Data Recovery.

Here's the number I called-
1-800-590-7220.

I got to a real person real quick, they just didn't bother to open that their floor is $700. Also use this code-
DS37731
It's from the farmville cell-phone repair place I got the recommendation from, but it'll save you 10% off the final bill. They at least do free shipping and won't charge you if there's nothing they can do about it.
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>>103283436
day 10 of waiting for new mobo and ram
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>>103284553
maybe if you sabotaged some more trains this wouldn't be an issue
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>>103284597
Imma be honest, I reckon there's absolutely no chance your drive still is in working condition. Hope you don't have something valuable on there.
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>>103284590
>titles limited by the memory subsystem win on equivalently tiered AMD
Which almost never happens, or can easily be be optimized if it does, meaning Geforce is still faster with better image quality because of DLSS

>how many GOOD titles have released on the engine
Considering the massive number of UE5 games (by far the largest number of new titles are released on Unreal, with Unity in second but it's not even close), there are enough Unreal games to make Geforce an automatic winner

>No point in arguing with GeForce bro
Correct, because I always win. You should try learning from me instead of crying about me
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>>103284597
anon just post a photo of it without the case and the model number
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>>103284146
apparently it drops temps by about 10% i cbf over the ease of using paste
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>>103284608
>posts sas
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600w
0
0
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bros ill have to wait til winter to even buy a 5090 in aus LOL
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>>103284630
I am just telling him what we want to see. I want to see that because it'll tell us what condition the drive MIGHT be in. It's probably properly fucked, but there's a chance that he could just take it out of the god damn housing, show us that, and then plug it in via a SATA cable to the motherboard and see what happens.
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>>103282568
I need suggestions for a new monitor. Want it to be 1440p, at least 144hz, something designed with eye care in mind beyond just blue light, have AMD freesync, and my budget is $300-350.
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I'm not sure who I despise more, the delusional Nvidia poster, or the AMD Jeets.
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>>103284642
theres a legitimate reason to be an nvidia "shill" though, there's no reason to be an amd fanatic when their actual hardware sucks right now
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>>103284146
I put the Thermal Grizzly one on my 9800x3d build
Just because it was at the store, and I've never tried it

Temps seem reasonable, ~37C idle, ~65-70 during gaming
This is with an NH-D15 G2
Haven't adjusted any of the fans, so this is w/ the motherboard's builtin fan curve

Seems like it's about the same as paste, at least it's not any worse

>>103284619
Putting it on was easy
Trimmed it with scissors
72F room, didn't have any problems with it flopping or sticking to itself
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>>103284614
>try learning from me
Only thing that gets learned from your advice is that TAA has doomed the industry to mediocre slop that doesn't play any better and has worse visuals than games from a decade ago. Happy to see you've taken the title in stride, take care GeForce bro your persistence has proven you have a motivation to defend your skewed position.
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>>103284667
VRAM is a valid concern IMO, mainly as I'm a VRAM raped RTX 3070 owner.
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7500f and 3060ti is just too comfy
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Thoughts on Chinese IPS? 24" 1440p 240Hz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D5LWTWRN
I currently have a 144Hz TN panel.
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>>103283106
Yes calculated.

This should work.
4(120) - 3(140) = 60
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>>103284690
Don't let GeForce bro catch you saying that, he'll post another chart and tell you you're stupid cause obviously 8gb is good enough for that tier of GPU and you'd never need more thanks to shitty upscaling.
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>>103284689
>skewed
Sorry, you were saying?

>>103284690
Almost all titles need upsampling on reasonable older hardware these days (the muh VRAM retards are of course making a retarded attempt at futureproofing), so the VRAM is almost irrelevant because it's only a factor in a few titles and even then you can usually get full resolution textures with a couple of clicks if you're not an idiot

>>103284736
I can understand wanting more VRAM. I can't understand being retarded enough to buy Radeon to get it
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>>103284736
Charts or not, I AM getting VRAM raped on a daily basis, 8GB is only good enough for 1080p, I love NVIDIA's features, but it's not enough to not say that my frame rate tanks whilst I play my games.
>>103284747
DLSS isn't a universal feature. I'm not disputing it's a great AA tool.
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1. Measure zero times
2. Mark once, drill twice
3. ???
4. Profit
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5090 gb202 512bit 32gb gddr7
5080 gb203 256bit 16gb gddr7
5070ti gb203 256bit 16gb gddr7 (20% cut down 5080)
5070 gb205 192bit 12gb gddr6x
5060ti gb205 192bit 12gb gddr6x (20% cut down 5070)
5060 gb207 128bit 8gb gddr6

5080S gb203 256bit 16gb gddr7 (10% more cores, $100 msrp drop)
5070S gb205 192bit 12gb gddr7
5060 16G gb207 128bit 16gb gddr6
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Suddenly this doesn't seem so stupid. It'd be better if it had an automatic sensor that tripped the PC into shutting off in the case of an unaccounted for spike or something.
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>>103284580
>valkyrie 480mm aio
isn't this the aliexpress cooler? is it any good?
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>>103284771
5080 is already using the full GB203 (84 SM), so that 5080S doesn't look right
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>>103284775
don't buy that
even derbauer (the person who created it)
says its not safe lol
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Huh, perfect fit?
I guess sometimes you get lucky.
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Is the quality of the AOC worth the $100 difference between these two monitors?
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>>103284757
>my frame rate tanks whilst I play my games
If you're trying to play new games, the 3070's core is likely too weak. It's not about the VRAM in the vast majority of games. If you're coming across areas where there are sharp performance dropoffs, could be that you need to lower VRAM intensive settings.

>DLSS isn't a universal feature
It's almost universal these days. Almost any game that doesn't have it doesn't need it on a 3070. The exception might be Helldivers, but even then that's an outlier and the game doesn't even look that good (lighting in particular is horrible)

>I'm not disputing it's a great AA tool
Not just about AA, about framerate, longevity, and image quality.

>>103284771
I think the Super refresh is likely to get some 1.5x VRAM cards with the 3 GB GDDR7 modules. At the very least, I would expect GB207 to have a 12 GB variant. It would be nice if it were available from the start, like the 3060 12 GB, but I feel like it's unlikely.
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>>103284767
I'm actually considering DIY building a case for a nas out of wood. The 3D printed one that what's his face on lvl 1 techs show cased doesn't fit on my damn printer. Not skilled enough with welding yet to make out of metal. Or maybe some sort of acrylic case would be better.
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>>103284771
>07 '60' tier again
>05 '70' tier
kek, amd giving up, this mess, and the tariffs are going to btfo waitfags
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>>103284816
>it it worth
the only one who can answer that is you
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>>103284816
Yes. The AOC has entry HDR, while the Dell does not.
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which one, help
prices are in CAD, basically around US$550 so i think it's reasonable to buy OLED now without feeling too wasteful (though i wish they were 4K at this price, maybe after 3 years when i have to replace this)
the alienware has a decent rtings review but it's matte so im hesitant
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>my hdr shilling finally worked and now everyone is trying to get their hands on an hdr capable monitor
i am grinning, evily
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>>103283888
I think your controller is fucked
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>>103284684
i doubt it would do much for me i get 100% humidity 24/7 in my apartment even the 480mm aio gets saturated with 4 fans maxxed out at 1500rpm
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>>103283888
Does your controller have a cpu label? Try connecting one case fan to it and then the controller on cha2
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>>103284824
True if I'm left to my own thoughts I get so paranoid about manufacturers I end up just not buying anything and continuing to play on the same 2010 1080p monitor despite using a 6800xt.
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>>103284771
>one sku at full fat die
LOL
O
L
Even comapred to the 4000 series this is dogshit

if you havent got a 7900 xtx already and just waiting shit out i dunno what to tell you
>>103284781
It has anime waifues on the setup booklet ill take photos when i build the other one max kino it works suprisingly well only paid 100 usd each for it and 100usd for the case so i got two more lol
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>>103284845
They're all semi-glossy except the Samsung, MSI and Alienware are entirely identical except for refresh rate.

At these prices, the AW2725DF is simply the better choice unless you specifically need an HDMI2.1 port for consoles (and even then it's not a big deal).
It has the best out-of-the-box calibration and Dell generally offers a reliable warranty.
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Think upgrading from a 4080 to 5080 makes sense? I heard it'll have better ray tracing performance but otherwise it doesn't seem all that impressive.
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>>103284819
>amd giving up
at this point i hope they sell their gpu division they just let it stagnate again for 2yrs really gives me the SHITS JUST FUCKING USE THE RYZEN MONEY TO MAKE BETTER GPUS
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>>103284899
we don't know what extra features the 50 series will have so nobody can say for sure yet
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>>103284709
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>>103284909
NEW FEATURE 50% PRICE INCRASE FOR 50% FASTER SPEED AND 25% BETTER GAYTRACING FOR 75% MORE POWER AND HEAT
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>>103284909
AI generated efficiency
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>>103284932
i for one welcome skynet please donk rokos batheleisqehe me
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>>103284817
>3070's core is likely too weak
Utter copium, 16GB mods prove otherwise.
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>>103284553
Dayum that sucks
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>>103284818
There's an old diyperks video on Youtube, where he makes a case out of fiberboard/Masonite, and it seems approachable.
Most of what he does looks like jank shit, even at the 90% mark, but he really has a knack for polishing turds.

Someone (here, or maybe /diy/) put it in my head to draw up a bunch of cad files, and have a place like SendCutSend cut out the panels, etc.
Haven't made much progress with it, but I quite like the idea.
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>>103284929
>>103284932
You guys probably don't really play games and just sit around arguing about tech "culture" all day long, but personally I hope we see this implemented https://research.nvidia.com/labs/rtr/neural_texture_compression/

The TLDR is higher res textures at a fraction of the current cost. They can call it DLSS4 and make it 50 series exclusive or whatever.
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>>103284955
i'm ready to play games with 16k textures
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>>103284955
>1024 with bc compression is 5 mb
I can make it a little more than 1 mb with fucking mypaint what am I missing?
that 4k compression is great but how much quality is being sacrificed exactly? we need a proper comparison
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>>103284955
i game mog you
>>103284980
that tech would be sick if it worked on everything, if nvidia have exclusive 16k textures i instantly will lose interest
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>>103284553
Make sure you do it while Biden is still flooding the country with illegals.
From what I've heard from the Chinese, Vietnamese, Indians, Turks, Russians, Africans, Arabs that appeared around my city is that they literally walked right in.
>>103284955
who the fuck "plays" games in 2024
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>>103284899
5080 has similar specs to 4080s but gddr7 memory now and 4080s is 5% better than 4080 so your call
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>5090 waterblocked first appearance
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-first-retail-appearance-sold-in-workstation-pre-order/
wtf power supply would power 4x 600w cards?
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>>103284952
I think the acrylic route would be pretty easy. Drill a few holes carefully, use a dremel to cut out air flow, etc. It would just be a box after all.
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are proprietary motherboards/PSUs in prebuilts really bad?
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>>103285000
>erm actually just save it as jpeg
t. retard
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>>103284401
probably a good time to pick it up, I can't see it getting any cheaper within the next few months and with all this talk of impending tariffs the price might even scale up a bit but idk
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>>103285017
How many 12vhpwr is needed per card?
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>>103285023
dumbass stop asking yes ofc they are
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>>103285039
single
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>>103285034
a 4k jpeg would look less blurry than what nvidia is showcasing here
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>>103285023
if they don't say what it is then probably
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>>103285039
you can literally see 1 per card in the image retard
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>build PC with 7950x and 4080S
>have random reboots
>bump ram down to jedec
>get another random reboot (event log unhelpful)

I was importing 250 png images in adobe animate while also having blender open and my shit just rebooted. Also this software is either terrible or there is something terribly wrong with my computer: why does it take long long minutes to import 250 png files?

What's the best way to troubleshoot my random reboots? I want to know what the problem is, this is driving me crazy...
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>>103284949
No they don't
Modern games are too demanding for the 3070's core, even at 1080p. How many of these do I need post?
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>>103285000
games use the dds dxt5 format which typically means 1024x1024 textures are 1mb in size regardless of the actual texture, however they're testing with higher quality dds types. i don't have to spell out why that's a good thing
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>>103285017
Is this article claiming they are selling stolen 5090's?
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>>103285099
No you fucking retard, it's saying that a preorder could be a take your money and run scam
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>>103285093
wouldn't consoles get cucked in case they somehow make it exclusive?
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Why is it so miserable trying to buy a computer in Europeland? Between the scammers trying to bait old people into paying 1000€ for a GTX1070 and jews trying to swindle gamers into paying 2000€ for an RTX4070, there really isn't many good deals to be found.
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>>103285071
Nvidia drivers strike again worse than AMD
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>>103285071
maybe go to /sqt/ because you are too stupid to do basic troubleshooting. This isn’t a tech support threat you retarded nigger
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>>103285119
This feature would 100% be nvidia exclusive and part of their next tier of DLSS features. I don't have a problem with that. Nvidia is a business. They don't need to make it open source and universal because some poors don't want to buy an nvidia card.

You'll have to wait for AMD to make their bootleg version that doesn't perform as well.
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BenQ made a 3:2 monitor but it's only 60hz
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>>103285123
You must be really mad
He's referencing an AMD problem
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>>103285071
Random reboots could be a short, dunno about the lackluster performance thougheverbeit
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>>103285141
Yeah Nvidia drivers cause reboots and issues in 2024
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Nvidia drivers fucked my wife and killed my dog too
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>>103285151
No they don't
No matter how many times you repeat this, still won't be true


Radeon on the other hand...........................
Another day, another driver problem
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>>103285018
Acrylic looks cool, and I think it would be easy enough to cut "one big hole" for a fan. But something like pic is madness, imo.
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>>103285071
have you even bothered checking your system logs? Have you bothered monitoring your thermals and power levels? How about you at least tell us what you have done before you bring us this stupid question?
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>>103284816
What website is that that lets you compare monitor quality?
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>>103285166
yeah especially since the retard zoomer taped the paper to the top of the acrylic instead of the bottom.
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>>103285178
rtings (pronounced ratings)
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>>103284616
I'm open to doing that, but I don't quite know how. Doesn't come with a pop-off top or nothing. I'd have to like wedge it open.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/onn-100022779-External-Portable-Solid-State-Drive-500-GB/587457385?clickid=VREVuwWq-xyKWdrWHmWrr27aUkCQu3UOIzNcU80&irgwc=1&sourceid=imp_VREVuwWq-xyKWdrWHmWrr27aUkCQu3UOIzNcU80&veh=aff&wmlspartner=imp_2003851&affiliates_ad_id=566719&campaign_id=9383&sharedid=EdgeBingFlow

Here's a link to the same model, I don't know if that gives you the right info.
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>finally start dabbling in ai stuff
>start upscaling low quality images
>they look incredible
wtf this is magic
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>>103285178
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/gigabyte-aorus-fo27q3-vs-asus-rog-strix-oled-xg27aqdmg/51510/61784
It's the compare thing on rtings. If you scroll down it gives you everything side by side
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>>103285164
Ya they do
Go take a shower
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>>103285292
Radeon can't even correctly use modern monitors
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>>103284878
thx, that one also appealed to me the most based on the rtings review
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>>103285136
more a necessity rather than a feature if they keep selling 8gb gpus
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Looking at SATA SSD's for storage, not for the OS.

Any notable deals so far? Gonna be price checking the borecraft list in the OP anyways, but asking regardless.
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>>103285306
nvidia cant even work properly
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>bought alleged miner card for cheap
>benchmark ok, temps look fine
Do i even bother opening it up for cleaning/repaste
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feels weird that i'm getting a 7900xtx just for 1440p gaming (getting the alienware OLED monitor in this pic >>103284845 )

starting to think I shoulda saved cad$200 for a 7900xt instead for more power efficiency
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>>103285166
>Pic
That's not necessary and there are easier ways to do it. Using a jigsaw for example.
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>>103285377
It's really good, you won't regret it at that price.
Be careful when unboxing it as the coating on QD-OLED monitors is extremely fragile and hard to clean.
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5700x3d upgrade vs 7500f/7600 if I'm planning to upgrade my GPU to a 4070 super? I don't mind spending a little more on am5. I am concerned about these modern slop devs and that the 5700x3d will start to show its age sooner
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>>103285537
5700x3d already showing its age on crap oms redogshitengineslop
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>>103285486
I would. It doesn't take that long and it'll be peace of mind for you
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>>103285598
>already showing its age on crap oms redogshitengineslop
Understandable, AM5 it is. That engine isnt going anywhere
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>>103285537
5700x3D is still a great CPU and won't bottleneck a 4070 Super.
It already struggles in poorly optimized slop such as MHWilds, but the scenarios where it's not great could only be fixed by getting a 7800x3D/9800x3D anyways.

Full platform upgrade is not without benefits, but you should probably stretch up to a better CPU or wait for the Zen 5 X3D line-up to extend before investing into it.
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>>103285611
7600x3d is an option at my MC but feels like a cope CPU since lol8cores. Might grab a 7500f right now and upgrade when further zen 5 x3d chips drop, because you know they will
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how bad is this on a 1tb samsung evo 870? im pretty sure i noticed the uncorrectable error and ecc error rate like 2 years ago but the number hasn't gone up since then and im not having any issues with the drive. wondering if i should bother replacing it
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have the RDNA3 GPUs improved since release 2 years ago like how the AM5 CPUs improved? any more hope or speculation on further improvement?

Heard something about "ai cores" not being utilized properly on RDNA3 GPUs but sounds like fanboy bullsht
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>>103285639
extremely my 7900xtx is great but ive only had it for 6mo
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>9800x3d came in today morning
>asrock nova x870e still out of stock
Dag. I guess I'll keep waiting.
Or is there another alternative mobo with similar specs?
I particularly like how many m2 slots it has. Lane management is neat. I have two drives in my current build and another two I want to salvage from my previous build. I'll probably end up using that 5th slot in the far future, not like ill use that 3rd pcie slot over it. But that 5th m2 is not exactly needed at the moment.
USB4 is also a big help.
Debug led is neat, but not exactly needed.
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>>103285653
feel like getting a b650 mitx and 32gb of ram cheap while i wait its either a week or two and all gonna come at the same time
glad its pay after delivery ali express x670e 96gb ram tho
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>>103285639
It does have "air cores" which will probably be used for fsr4 which will finally be AI upscaled like dlss. Up till now AMD has avoided using an ai upscaled solution since it would alienate all their previous customers and most of their customers buy them for their lower prices so it's a bad idea for them to block off everyone from using the latest "feature".
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>>103285620
It's up to you, but I don't think transitioning to AM5 with a budget CPU is going to satisfy you much.
You could get the 5700x3D in the meantime and only upgrade when you actually plan on getting a higher-end CPU, instead of doing a more expensive upgrade to AM5 with a sub-par CPU and planning to upgrade again later.
>7600x3d is an option
I'm an EUfag and I'd kill to have access to these and the bundle deals, you should seriously consider it.
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Plenty of good monitor discounts in the US.
ASUS ROG 180Hz 1440p for under $200 (single overdrive mode)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CV24GQ9W
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>>103285653
Same situation here, can't find a single Nova available in EU. I'm even considering getting one of the scalped ones at 400€+ so I can finally build my shit.
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>>103285479
Some random, unsubstantiated, probably misattributed Steam forum posts, really the best you can do?
Sort of like how you attributed an obvious problem with AMD's AM5 platform (anon had to use JEDEC RAM speed) to Nvidia, because you're retarded an poor, which is why you're mad at Nvidia

Here's Wukong, one of the best (yes, guess what retard, it's Unreal) games of this year, not running well with Radeon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfI9rmTnxe8&t=331s
>Overly dark shadows or desaturated colors may be observed while playing Black Myth: Wukong when Global Illumination is to Medium or higher. Users experiencing this issue may set Global Illumination to Low as a temporary workaround.
https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-24-10-37-01.html

AMD's HILARIOUS solution was of course "just disable shadows lol"
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>>103285668
You think the 7600x3d is that much better with the bundle? It feels like a weird inbetween and I just feel regret that I didn't buy 7800x3d when it was still 300 instead of the 450 it is now
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>>103285486
Small-scale miners usually didn't abuse their video cards.
If you were lucky, the miner downclocked/undervolted the GPU core to let the card run more power efficiently.
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>>103284913
>Not cheap
>Dodgy third-party seller
Titan Army could be an OEM brand like Koorui, but I wouldn't roll the dice.
Either stick with 1080p 24" high refresh rate monitors or take the plunge to 27" 1440p
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>>103285675
I don't even have that many scalpers in my area, or more likely even they have no stock either.
Apparently, I had missed a restock 2 days ago too, but I honestly did not think my cpu would come in this soon, so I didn't bother to keep a constant tab.
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>>103285663
thx for giving me validation for "upgrading" prematurely from a 6750XT to a 7900XTX soon

6750XT will be going to family for free of course, maybe LAN party with monster hunter wild :)
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How often should you replace a power supply? I've had the same 620 Bronze since 2018 and it's now the oldest part in my system. Still works fine but I'm starting to worry about it.
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What do people use USB 4.0 for? I asked this before and no one could supply an answer.
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Any suggestions for cheapness if I don't care about being cutting edge? I was told AM5 is cheaper than AM4
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>>103285725
youll know if u need to replace it
i used to use a shitty bronze psu, my pc started shutting down when my gpu use spiked on gaming

not cheaping out on psu this time and got the montech titan gold 850w (on small discount) this time
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>>103285725
They’ve got the longest lifespan of anything you could buy. In regards to parts.
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>>103285726
if you want to use an nvme drive externally at close to native speed
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>>103285737
look for cpu+mobo+ram bundles, assuming the mobo+ram arent shit at least
usually gives you a ~$150 discount compared to buying it separately

microcenter for US, and even for canada me we have canada computers which gives pretty decent bundles too
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>>103285725
You should probably replace it if you've got relatively expensive PC components.
Keep PSUs until the warranty lapses, affordable ones usually offer 3 or 5 year warranties.
If the PC is more of a general office workstation (spreadsheets, email, etc), the PSU should be ok.
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>>103285725
One per build.
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>>103285750
Awesome, thanks anon
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>>103285750
Note: the RAM IS shit in all microcenter bundles but it's also the cheapest part of it to replace and you're still well under the cost of buying separate if you flip it. They got some insane deal on tons of g skill ram I guess
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timed my OS boot today, ~35 seconds
feels slow so I wonder how to cut that down
>m.2 drive, ryzen 7 7700
>win10 iot ltsc
after button press the pc sits on a black screen for like 25 seconds before the MSI logo appears with the windows spinny circle, then it puts me at the login a few seconds after that
>virtualization: on
>BAR: on
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>>103285891
>after button press the pc sits on a black screen for like 25 seconds before the MSI logo appears with the windows spinny circle
AM5 moment. That's memory training. There is an option in bios to have it keep the last known parameters and it will increase boot speed
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>>103285891
Huh, and I was complaining to myself that my 7-12s was on the slow side
AM5? Could be memory training
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>>103285891
Welcome to DDR5.
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>>103285891
That's due to memory training, there's an option in BIOS to stop it on every boot but you'll have to look for it.
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>>103284771
Welp, better start saving up now
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>>103285080
>720p internal is 1080p quality
>Shartfield is now a good example of image quality or reasonable performance
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>>103285815
chances are it will be samsung, but you could always check in cpuz to double check
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>>103286011
The cl36 kit is samsung yes, it's well documented
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>>103285815
what RAM are they offering right now?

canada computers was offering 6000cl30 which is pretty much what i wanted anyways
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>>103285891
Install latest bios and chipset drivers, untoggle memory training on every boot, should chop off 15-20s
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>>103285984
It's a good example of a game where DLSS saves last gen midrange Geforce cards, while Radeon's comparable (according to retarded techtubers) cards are almost unusable
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>>103286033
G Skill Flare X5 CL36 DDR5 6000
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What sort of 2k performance could I expect from a 7600x and 7800xt?
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5090 >30%+ over the 4090
5080 ~10% over the 4080
And they will sell out day 1
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>>103286045
First I need to know if you think 2k means 1440p or 1080p?
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>>103286036
So you have to mod the correct version of DLSS to get those results, at least that's what I'm seeing according to that webm.
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>>103286044
i guess we'll prob want to replace whatever DDR5 we have right now at the end of AM5's lifetime anyways
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>>103286045
>7800xt?
Trash tier. It can't run current games at 1440p 60 FPS (e.g., Stalker 2). And you'll be stuck using FSR immediately
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>>103286060
No way it's that low. 5080 +10% over 4090, 5090 50-80% stronger than 4090 again + an additional 8gb vram and a wider bus. If its that low and more expensive then fuck 'em.
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>>103286088
Starfield supports DLSS natively now. When that video was made, it didn't, as AMD had done some shady backroom deals to keep the superior solution (DLSS) out of its (AMD's) sponsored games
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>>103286117
5080 literally has same core count, bus width and vram size as 4080s, the only difference is gddr7 vs gddr6x
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>>103286131
>architectural improvements don't exist
>higher clocks don't exist
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>>103285056
OEM
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>>103286131
the new node has a 15-18% improvement based on Apple's history of moving from N5 to N5P+GDDR7+more power, it can easily hit 4090 levels. Not even considering architectural improvements.
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>>103286111
you can say that about everything that isn't a 7900XT/4080/4080 Super/7900XTX/4090
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>>103286156
7900xtx is a 1440p card........
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>>103286117
There's 0 chance the 5080 will be faster than a 4090 on the same process node with the same size die as ad103, last time Nvidia posted gains near that on the same node was when they sold kepler for years on end before putting out maxwell. Only reason the 5090 will be 50% faster is the expanded memory bus and the fuckhuge die that it'll be using.
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>>103285674
SDHOL20 promo code puts this down to $150 if you have prime.
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>>103286111
so what's a good alternative? the fsr sucks (but so does upscaling and non-native in general) but it's still a powerful GPU
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>>103286156
amd is underperforming by about 10%
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>>103286156
*and 4070ti/4070ti super.

>>103286175
4090 is a 4k50 card...
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>>103286156
i would believe it if you told me this released last decade, why does it run so shit
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>>103286156
The difference is that DLSS is great (usually better than or equivalent to muh native), especially in Unreal games >>103284747.
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>>103286230
UE5
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Week 3 of waiting for am5 mobo and ram
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>>103286235
i hate it

i worry monhun wild will not improve much from beta performance either
i thought i'd be playing on a 4K monitor by now what a pity
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>>103286180
4070 or 4070 Super, although if you have anything remotely usable, at this point I'd Just WaitTM on the 5070, which will probably be released in January

>so does upscaling and non-native in general
Quite the contrary. DLSS often has better than or equivalent to native image quality, at higher performance. Of course there's also DLAA and DLDSR to consider
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>>103286175
Then why does it run better at 4k-6k in vr lol proposterous
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>>103286231
>(usually better than or equivalent to muh native)
someone post the leaf picture
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>>103286122
Most of those AMD titles don't need upscaling period since reasonable systems get to enjoy those at native res, on the other hand I can pick out multiple on the Nvidia list that run like shit no matter what hardware you use, making upscaling necessary, also
>dark1x xitter screenshot

Poetry
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>>103286035
how important is this step? all parts were bought new in sept and im lazy
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>>103286255
>the nvidia shill is back
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>>103286176
Here's the deal. I am only willing to concede that Nvidia is whiffing this if the 5080 is miraculously $799 or $899, spitting distance of 4090 regardless. However, it is an enhanced 4nm node 4N-->4NP, Apple got a 15-18% improvement with their custom node that improved on their original 5nm designs and made less changes from M1>M2 than we are seeing from Ada>Blackwell, it is more likely than not that it matches a 4090. It's only 20% behind in most games, it ain't gonna take a lot.

>per TSMC in 2021: "As the third major enhancement of TSMC’s 5nm family, N4P will deliver an 11% performance boost over the original N5 technology and a 6% boost over N4. Compared to N5, N4P will also deliver a 22% improvement in power efficiency as well as a 6% improvement in transistor density. In addition, N4P lowers process complexity and improves wafer cycle time by reducing the number of masks. N4P demonstrates TSMC’s pursuit and investment in continuous improvement of our process technologies."

https://pr.tsmc.com/english/news/2874
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>>103286286
Apologies, enhanced 5nm node, them calling a 5nm node "4" fucked me up. The point still stands, this is old news, direct from the horse's mouth.
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>>103286265
Could've sat in a warehouse for a couple years if it's a 600 series board, it's your best avenue to try and bring down boot times.
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>>103286263
You actually think AMD's sponsored games run well?
Spoiler: they do not. And in fact Starfield both runs and looks like garbage
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I missed the Fractal North XL sale is there any other case that looks as nice as that?
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>>103286068
Why would anyone think 2k is 1080?
>>103286111
Thats what I was told to buy last time I posted the list and budget?
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>>103286360
because 1920 is closer to 2k than 2560 or 1440? I don't think like this, but I am required to figure out why retards think the way they do, for my job.
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>>103286360
/pcbg/ is filled with retarded AMDrones
It was way worse in the old days but there are still a few retards around
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>>103286286
Ok let me make it easier to comprehend, N4P is +6% on N4 which ada uses, the core and memory config is the same, just boosted bandwidth from G7. There has never been a gen on gen improvement on a similar process technology beyond 40% and that's with additional cores/tmus/rops thrown at it. So a 5080 with a very similar core config to a 4080 cannot be 10% faster than a 4090, we're going to see 25-30% uplift from architecture and efficiency improvements plus the extra fed percent from the slightly improved process node and it'll be $1200 just like the 4080.
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I feel like I'm going to regret going Lian Li A3 because of cable management

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jmbqkf
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>>103286382
>we're going to see 25-30% uplift from architecture and efficiency improvements plus the extra fed percent from the slightly improved process node and it'll be $1200 just like the 4080.
Damn and where would a 5080 be if it were 20-30% faster than a 4080? Oh yeah, trading blows or 10% faster than a 4090, you condescending prick.
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>>103286311
Shartfield wasn't on that list and last of us got fixed you fucking inbred, the others 2 are devs attempting to push UE4 beyond it's design limitations and poor coding, but you don't want to get to the crux of the issue, you'd rather perpetuate it and shill GeForce.
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>>103286374
The fuck do you call 1440p then?>>103286380
What do you recommend to not go over a $1k budget then? With everything I need and a 7800xt I'm at $1023 in cart at microcenter.
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>>103286422
2.5k lol
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>>103286393
The 4090 is squarely 35-40% ahead of the 4080 in non CPU bound workloads, idk why you think a GPU with 60% more everything is only 25% faster.
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>>103286438
In most games, it is about 20-30% faster. So, in terms of gaming, which is what a 5080 will be marketed for, yeah it's hitting 4090 numbers, tard. Have you ever heard of diminishing returns? I have a 4090 and tested a 4080 super for as time and there is no 60% difference. Pure pre-Blackwell cope on your part, from what I can tell.
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>>103286360
>Why would anyone think 2k is 1080?
4K is 3840 horizontal so why wouldn't 2K be 1920 horizontal?
The ones who think 2K is 2560 horizontal are the retards
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>>103286429
>>103286468
But when someone says 2k you know they mean 1440p so really you're just being fucking autistic.
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>>103286251
>i worry monhun wild will not improve much from beta performance either
reminder this performance is without denuvo and capcoms encrypted anti cheat
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>>103286484
No I don't because it's fucking wrong
3840x2160 is 4K which is twice the dimensions of both sides of 1920x1080 so why wouldn't 1080p be 2K?
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Do you guys just set XMP and forget or do you actually tighten timings and shit?
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>>103286422
Better to get a 5600 (or a 12400 or 12600K) and 4070 Super than a 7600 and a 7800 XT.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VvszMC

>>103286418
>Shartfield wasn't on that list
Who fucking cares, retard? Yet another trash tier AMD sponsored game where AMD paid to have DLSS excluded. And for obvious reasons, as DLSS shits on FSR especially in Starfield

>the issue
The issue is that AMD paid to block the superior competitor's tech. Why are you running interference for scummy AMD, anyway? Just admit that AMD blocked DLSS in its sponsored games because DLSS massively better and that AMD sponsored games generally run like trash and lack modern graphical features. It'll be a great weight off your scrawny shoulders, little fanboy
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>>103286484
>when someone says 2k you know they mean 1440p
NTA but I've seen monitor ads where 1080p is advertised as '2k'
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>>103286422
Just get the 7800xt, at that price point nvidia has nothing good to offer. Honestly if you don't have $800+ for a GPU just go for an AMD instead of an nvidia.
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>>103286491
back to cinematic 30fps then, how nostalgic
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>>103286509
The microcenter bundle for the 12700k is the same price as the bundle with the 7600x. I'm limited to the budget around a 7800xt either way.
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>>103286526
>nvidia has nothing good to offer
AMDelusional
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>>103286549
Get the 7600 bundle and the 7800xt, and ignore that retarded shill.
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>>103286255
>DLAA and DLDSR to consider
does amd have the equivalent?

whats good about the 5070?
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>>103286509
Goalpost moving yet again, explain why upscaling as a technology is necessary in the first place? But instead you will continue to post irrelevant charts and more digital foundry slop instead of addressing the actual problem that TAA and upscalers have inspired every dev to use jeet code and assets, consequently making games look and run worse.
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is the 4tb scamsung 990 pro worth $20 more than the 4TB weastern digital sn850x?

Looks like the 990 pro has double the dram and is a little bit faster but I doubt that will actually be noticeable
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>>103286549
Seems like you're all set then, enjoy

>>103286563
There's no such thing as an equivalent in that space at the moment. FSR is substantially inferior. AMD has no DLDSR analog at all. The DLAA analog is called FSR AA
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what am i doing wrong i cant get above 5.3ghz all p core only
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>>103286584
Nigger you're using XTU if you can't navigate a bios do not even attempt to OC
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>>103286583
Not gonna be my PC, and the person getting it isn't gonna run 4k or even 1440p. I just wanted to know what sort of performance they may get if they tried 1440.
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>>103286588
i cant get a screenshot of bios obviously im just asking what im doing wrong
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>>103286563
No DLDSR analogue from AMD yet, this is an actual reason to consider Nvidia over and AMD GPU.
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>>103286584
5.3 GHz is the max 12th gen can practically do on ambient
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>>103286592
Current cooling config? If you aren't on at least a phantom spirit or AIO I wouldn't even try
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>>103286606
its on air and its a 13600k z690 ud4 ddr4 v2
>>103286610
480mm valkyrie doesnt go above 65c in 55c room temp
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>>103286255
Do you think 4070 super prices will dip on the used market when 5000 series is revealed? Surely, right? I want to upgrade from my 3070
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>>103286613
Aight then you should be able to do 5.5 around 1.38v, should just take a ratio and voltage change in bios.
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>>103286629
oh shit im only at stock voltage how would i do that in gigashite bios? should i just leave it?! sorry im such a noob havent oc'd since 2021 on my old 5900x
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>>103286563
>whats good about the 5070?
Also to answer this, it's going to be a price/perf (aka value) improvement over the 4070 Super, much like the 4070 Super was over the base 4070. It could also have some new DLSS tech, although that's an unknown

>>103286625
>Do you think 4070 super prices will dip on the used market
Not substantially. I haven't been following used prices lately, but I don't think the 5070 will be good enough to make the 4070 Super prices crater

>>103286568
>Goalpost moving yet again
The only one off track here is you. Anon asked about DLSS support in Starfield >>103286088 and I explained AMD's backroom deals. You're the shithead trying to distract from the issue by claiming that AMD's sponsored games run well (they don't) or that they don't need upsampling (they do), Starfield being a prime example of both and the subject of the discussion. You are a retarded AMD apologist trying to move the goalposts. Not me. Quite the contrary, in fact: I'm holding your feet to the fire.

>post irrelevant charts
They are extremely relevant, especially considering the pain they cause fanboys such as yourself

>consequently making games look and run worse
I sympathize with your feelings, although they're not particularly rooted in reality. Old games, while they can have good art, are low fidelity. Look at a great game like Doom. I can understand a diminishing returns argument about modern rasterization especially (which becomes performance prohibitive quickly), but personally my complaints about modern games aren't related to graphics or performance generally, as I have a Geforce card. I'm much more annoyed by the content and gameplay
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>>103286255
4070 doesn't outperform the 7800 xt. it also has less vram
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>>103286638
I think you get multiple voltage operation modes which I would use adaptive mode and enter 1.38v, set the ratio and set a slightly aggressive LLC you would probably want to see vdroop in the ~1.32v range under heavy loads like rendering and P95
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>>103286695
You're missing the point (as the 4070 massively outperforms the 7800 XT while having better image quality in practical usage scenarios).

>muh vram
No
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>microcenter ram negative reviews seem to actually be the fault of the bundle asus board's dodgy ram compatibility and stability
>has been a running problem for a year, even after bios updates
>just tons of memtest errors, 1 of 2 slots not working, not running at expo timings, etc
Lovely. I am returning the mobo since I am also having issues and going to buy an asrock board
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Was looking at the 2TB MX500. I already have 2 of these, but wanted 1 more.
Still a bit much imo, even if the quality is there.

I'm gonna keep shopping around.
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>>103286729
You'd have to be retarded to buy that at that price, as you can get fast NVMe drives for less
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>>103286756
Maybe he's out of m2 slots
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>>103286688
You had a whole 2 out of 20 games on that list that you could argue have poor performance, I can pick at least a quarter of the Nvidia sponsored games that run just as bad, if all of those games ran fine, there would be no need for a temporal upscaling technique to try and claw back image quality and performance. The backroom deals shit is funny ASF especially since it's just handing out a taste of their own medicine (see examples like gameworks and overuse of tesselation), games don't need these "features" that only exist to allow devs to be lazier with how they craft games.
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>>103286729
yes worth getting those, but wait for ~$50/TB
sales coming up
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>>103286773
>>103286773
>You had a whole 2 out of 20 games
I show four here >>103286311, and there are others. Don't get me started on how trash REm4ke and HZD were

>gameworks
Gameworks was extra, advanced features that could be disabled if you didn't want to use it (or had a Radeon card)

>tessellation
Just like RT, it's in the DirectX spec. Not Nvidia's fault if Radeon can't keep up

Neither of those cases are equivalent to AMD blocking superior technology because it doesn't want its shit technology to be compared to the superior tech.

>"features" that only exist to allow devs to be lazier with how they craft games
Rasterization and native resolution are dead, and good riddance to them.
https://youtu.be/zD9kS1nOuyU?si=kD2ppdq-Sbi5iAqZ&t=550
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>>103286696
ill have to brush up more so basically i wunna keep it in 1.3v range for stabilty cheers
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oh no I'm not asking my question ITT

I'll wait
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>>103286838
>Rasterization and native resolution are dead, and good riddance to them.

Finally got you to say something with conviction that shows the hole in your thought process compared to 99% of other gamers. This is the polar opposite of what a vast majority of people want, it will turn into an unattainable spiral for another 5-10 years to the average consumer, instead of making this stupid fart huffing race of how many rays and reflections could get traced why not make an intelligent use of these new technologies like Metro EE did. That game runs like a dream on any RT capable hardware and the lighting both makes a tangible, positive difference in both how you see and experience the game.
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Any advice on the build?
I've already bought the CPU, GPU, PSU and case.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9bzBPJ
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>>103286963
>4080Shit
>b650
>7800x3d
what the fuck are you doing x670e are 300 bux on ali
7900xtx are going for 1200aud and are just as fast
rest is fine 2k for a 4080sneed is just terrible i paid 1300aud for my pulse 79xtx
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is it sufficient, as a gamer, to compare gpus by their passmark score or should i be looking more in depth?
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>>103287008
>passmark
as bad as user benchmark
just try and find the cpu + ram + gpu combo some randoms chucked up on youtube, regular sites are outdated.

Sometimes GamersNexus and Hardware Unboxed steves will have the combos your after
unless their using the spesific games oc windows version etc its a total crapshoot
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Bros, whats the best 1440p oled?
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>>103287048
The one you build yourself :)
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>>103287008
Techpowerup, check the last pages of their GPU reviews to get an idea of relative performance, and look for benchmarks of few UE5 titles to get an idea of what you can expect in modern games.
You can only compare Geforce vs Geforce or Radeon vs Radeon or Arc vs Arc, as the features each vendor offers are quite different. Simple FPS doesn't paint nearly the whole picture

>>103286951
>an unattainable spiral
DLSS allows midrange cards to easily drive 4K displays. Midrange can't path trace well yet (although the performance is probably tolerable to most people), but by RTX 60, midrange will be running path tracing at full resolution 1080p, which can be reconstructed to a higher resolution like 4K.

DLSS is really insanely good. There was never a usable 4K GPU before DLSS. DLSS is as transformative as VRR in my opinion. Back in the day I hated V-sync, especially since you had to buy overpowered hardware to get a locked 60 FPS with V-sync, as any drop below that would cause the game to drop to 30 FPS. VRR is way more efficient, because if you drop to 55 FPS, it's no problem. Same with DLSS: 4K was brutal on hardware before high quality upscaling. Now anyone can get faux 4K quality in every game >>103284463. Keep in mind that the 4090 cannot run full 4K without DLSS in most recent, demanding games.

>like Metro EE
It didn't run well on Radeon initially, and of course Radeon doesn't have DLSS to assist with performance. Metro EE is still mediocre on anything but a 7900 XTX if you restrict your options to Radeon cards. Modern games use software RT as a minimum. The point of hardware like RTX cards is that they can ACCELERATE RT workloads: in other words, the RT can be better looking and/or faster than non accelerated RT
https://youtu.be/l5Y7nOtXM38?si=j1FwgFWq7j93SmK1&t=272

tldr: not an unobtainable spiral
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>>103287048
cheap one, $400 AOC is perfect
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>>103287048
none they all have VRR teething problems probably worse than TV's
>>103287080
Post some guides
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>>103287048
MSI MPG 321URX or bust
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I want to upgrade from my Vega 64, 5600X, 2x 16GB 3600 and I have found a used 3070 zotac white for $237. Should I buy it for better 1440p fps than my current card or are there better alternatives just to be ready at least for, till UDNA?
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>>103287150
skip 3000 and 4000 series both extremely poor value 3000 series had yield problems 4000 series have everything problems bad pcb designs bad 12vhpwr designs
get a used 2080ti or 6800xt cheap or 7900xtx anything else pointless
chuck a aliexpress 5700x in there cheap and send it
i had a v56 hated it but that was down to amds terrible cooler wtf where they thinking going from aio's back to blowers then dreadful triple fan vape chamber crap!?
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>>103287162
*5700x3d
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>>103287150
As long as the card works well, it's fine. Don't expect great image quality in new games. You'll have to optimize settings and use pretty aggressive DLSS to get good framerates. It'll be a massive upgrade over the V64 though
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>>103287240
oh thats awesome just get a 6950xt or 69xtxh aio if you can find one they go hard as shit i dont think any left new but non mined used should be under 500 or you've got a 7900gre 79xt for that price, dont bother with dlss rt shit theres no reason to go nvidia anymore everyones basically abandoned it for FSR3 and amds frame gen
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i pulled the gpu out without and the latch came out i was able to pop it back in and everything works fine.


did i fuck anything up
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>>103287005
I paid about 1500/1600 6 months back.
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>>103287407
wtf are you doing the 7900xtx was half that then jfc nvidiots will buy anything i bought 2 whole builds for that including gpus
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>>103287445
I assume he means 4080+7800x3d to get to 1500 anon, calm down anon.
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>>103286231
Here's an Unreal Engine game with DLSS better-than-native quality - smearing heads and sparkling armpits.



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