ASRock Arc B580 has been leakedASRock Intel Arc B580 Steel Legend 12GB OC GDDR6 2800 MHz 19 Gbps 192-bit 650W 7680 x 4320 Triple Fan Graphics CardOH MLID WHERE YOU AT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZr_LWAlDkgYOU SAID THESE WOULD NEVER EVER LAUNCH I SAW ALL THAT BATTLEMAGE IS CANCELLED TALK FOR MONTHS AND YEARSOH MLIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDWHAT THE FUCK IS THISSSSSSSBATTLEMAGE GPU OUT NEXT MONTH MLIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Give me VRAM. Intel it's all you have to do. It's not actually all you have to do but give me VRAM.
>>103284833It's 12gb
>>10328606612gb is nothign.
>>103283694>12 gb>650 wdoa.
>>103283694That's some utterly abysmal power draw there... For a card that will probably compete with the 4060 (115W)
>>103283694>650W?
>>103283694>>103284833>>103286066They should have grown some balls and put 24gb in there. Even if it didn't perform well, it would still sell for the consumer ai market.
>>103286415It's a 225W card, we already know this from elsewhere. No clue where the link in the OP is getting 650W from. Two 8-pins + socket can only deliver 350W max, you'd need a 12VHPWR connector to deliver 650W.
>>10328652424GiB is not enough for ML stuff anymore kiddo. There's a reason why Nvidia intentionally gimps ther VRAM capacity on their SKUs. Blackwell is going up the game and be literately paywall behind VRAM capacity.
>>103286564>24GiB is not enough for ML stuff anymore kiddo.2 4060 16GB's can be had for $900
>>103286535its gonna be a770 rtx 3060 tier again probably costs more too so its a wash if its not at least 3080 6800xt tier its shit
>>103286564>24GiB is not enough for ML stuff The other alternative is paying at least triple the price for professional grade cards. You say?
>>103286564Intel being a value pick for consumer ai would be enticing over Nvidia. The 5080 is going to be 16gb, and the 5090 is going to be expensive as all hell.
>>103286564>24GiB is not enough for ML stuff anymore kiddoI'll make it work
>>103286626Yep, Nvidia has the AI market by the balls and they know it. You want ML/AI hardware for production? You got to pay up. Gayming SKUs are just trash yields.
>>103286632>The 5080 is going to be 16gbImagine still believing that leak
>>103286670This. It'll be 12gb at best.
>>103286619This is just their mid tier SKU for Battlemage. There's another SKU with more power to it coming and will probably be closer to what you're expecting.
>battlemageoof YIKES why this cringe manbaby name?? DOA!
>>103283694Okay, but is Intel going to properly support the cards after the initial buzz for them is over?
>>103286748wdym intel has supported them massively
>>103286755I'm asking because Intel doesn't have an outstanding track record of keeping their divisions around, you can look at the wasted potential with Optane. How can I trust that Intel won't just axe the division before Celestial?
>>103286386You might actually be a literal fucking retard if you think this lower mid-range card will draw 650W based on an Amazon product page title. Even basic critical thinking skills should allow you to extrapolate that 650W is instead the recommended PSU figure that some clueless Amazon monkey copied and pasted along with the rest of the specs.
>>103286680unless celest is amazing ill be sticking to my a770 htpc and 7900xtx gaming pc for a very long time tbqh
I watched the Vex video testing the Intel Arc and it seemed like it was a decent budget GPU last year. I don't think its worth it anymore though, unless they give you a 16gb vram version
>>103286670I want it to be 24gb as much as the next retard. But I'm tempering my expectations because the leaks look legit. If Nvidia decides to hold their press conference in December or after CES then maybe I'll hold out more hope. But if Nvidia does a press conference in the CES time window, then 16gb is probably a done deal.
>>103283694>a 12GB 4060ti Price is everythingI think they should know their place and sell it for 200
>>103286748Since when do cards need "support"? I install the current drivers once and then forget about it. The only time I've ever installed a driver or update for a card long after buying it was the Mafia compatibility patch for my Hercules Kyro II 4500, back around 2003.
>>103286948No one is going to pay $1500 for a 16GB card.>>103287335$300 would still be somewhat competitive; the A750 8GB is $200.
>>103286915Arc already released a 16GB GPU. It barely matters since they are so weak anyway.
>>103286782Because AI is currently where all companies need to be and they are merging in their main competition offering in that space with Gaudi and their Arc GPU architecture with Falcon Shores? Even if discontinued, are you going to actually lose support or will Intel still have a driver where they make improvements? Given how long they support iGPUs, even if they stop after Celestial or Battlemage, Intel will keep making GPUs, just probably not discrete market and only target iGPUs and enterprise.
>>103283694If they have fixed the idle power draw I *might* be tempted to get a B310 or something for my ageing Plex server.Intel did me dirty with Linux driver support for the A770.
>>103287966>Arc already released a 16GB GPU. It barely matters since they are so weak anyway.Not if you're proompting and memory limited. You can get one as low as $250.
>>103287966A billion times better than the 4060 at least.
>>103288385Hilarious that some people think the 5060 will have 8GB
>>103288385>1% low of 20 FPS>Meanwhile, 10GB GPU has a 1% low of 41I rest my case.
>>103288651So you agree with him that many of nVidia's cards are retardedly VRAM limited?
>>103288598What leads you to think nvidia cares about playability?
>>103288673I'd argue it's cleverly limited. No matter how much VRAM the competition offers, it's difficult to justify their purchases. Hopefully Battlemage will change that.
>>103288739Nvidia's is so limited it's impossible to even consider them an option.
>>103288385Same youtubers all said 16GB 4060ti and 8GB 4060ti had no difference at launch. Lying Nvidia said the same shit too. When will they learn.
>>103288385>VramunboxedLol
>>103286535Its probably recommended psu wattage.
>>103288739>it's difficult to justify their purchasesHow? What games/areas do the Intel cards struggle that badly for their price point?
>>103288739>>103288838Similar performance to a 4060 Ti 8GB in Metro: Exodus, for roughly $100 less right now
>>103288838Literally the example already provided. Even at 1080p medium, Intel's best is not even close to averaging 60 FPS, but NVIDIA is either close or beyond that with their 8GB trash.I know which one I would rather use.
>>103286524Intel is allergic to good decisions so of course they'd put the bare minimum vram for 10year old ghames on their flagship card lmao.Might be a value pick at 300$ at best.
I had hopes for a good contender to jewvidia not ayymd, nonetheless I'm not going to shell out for a mediocre product.
>>1032883853060tibros...
>>103283694If the 580 has 12GB of VRAM it's a good bet that the 7xx (or 9xx if they find the balls to release them) will be 16 or 24GB, especially if they do LE SKUs again. The fact that they couldn't bring the power draw down to reasonable levels is disappointing thoughbeit.
>>103283694Do we have a list of launches, so we don't buy the wrong version?The B580 is presumably not the B flagship, since the A770 was A flagship.B770 would have 24gb of ram?
>>103290635>power drawI have an RX 6950XT that has power spikes well in excess of its alleged 303w power cap. idk how high they are, I'm not gamer's fag stuff.
>>103290725>B770 would have 24gb of ram?No, of course not. Even the most basic of research would tell you that the Battlemage flagship will have a 256-bit bus and so 16GB of VRAM. I'm not sure where this delusional idea comes from that a card aimed at establishing mid-range gaming market share is going to have some absurd amount of VRAM on it for no reason. Intel aren't interested in edge-case AI autists.
>>1032908714gb: a3106gb: a3808gb: a580, a770 8gb16gb: a770 16gbIf the b580 is 16gb we should expect a 20 or 24gb variant of the b770. Maybe.
>>103283694>Rumors are now suggesting Battlemage is actually coming out soon, to the eye-rolling of this reporter. What do you make of this, Dan?>Well i think that intel.... would have to, this time around... yeah, would, intel better be... yeah they better be good this time around... this time around, because if it's dont good, you know... if its not then people are just not going to buy it and........................................... intel cannot afford to, you know, like you said, like they can't... they don't have the... the opportunity anymore to, this time around come out with a product that people are just not going to buy and, i dont know, battlemage is.... battlemage is in trouble if that happens. If that happens. I don't know. *shrugs*>Thanks for the insight, Dan. Tick-Dickler writes in...
>>103290871also! the a770 coming in a 16gb variant is kind of wild imo given its relatively low performance.isn't the a770 an rtx 3060 or 4060 competitor? But didn't they top at 12gb? idk, I'm not into green team, but they are the leaders, intel isn't targeting team red with gpus.
>>103286211>650wwhat the h*ck?
>>103291669Intel could very well launch with extremely limited inventory. They did that with nuc.
>>103291750then they sold nuc to asus
>>103291730imo intel is rating power spikes and not average.With my rx6950xt I get power spikes of unknown amounts. at the wall (ups) I see up to 580w on my 850w ps. Some amount over that causes my computer to turn off. Apparently the 303w power cap is just an average (my measure at the wall is also an average, duh).If you think about it>gets X performance>rated Y watts>gee competitor only is rated Y' wattsYou should expect close watt per flop real world to be very very very very very VERY close, no free lunch, no miracles.
Intel should release a GPU with 8 or 6 DDR5 sodimm slots and utterly destroy the AI market. Imagine a GPU with up to 256GB of ram for cheap.
>>103291785Yeah but you need a PSU that accounts for the spikes, it doesn't make a lick of difference.
>>103286211>>103291730>>103291785It was probably meant as a 650W PSU recommendationGiven the power connectors that is reasonableYour thinking way to hard into this
>>103291906Well, the 5090 is rumored to use 600W and that's already fuckdiculous.
>>103287875Most retards who buy graphics cards don't know shit about the specs and just buys whatever name they see. Most of the people who buys Mercedes and BMWs couldn't tell you how much it weighs or how much horsepower it has.
https://videocardz.com/newz/arc-b-series-battlemage-references-spotted-on-intel-websiteINTEL WONTHANK YOU INTEL
>>103286656Stop being a npc and use your head for a second. We're talking about consumer cards here.
>>103288982The main thing that sucks about the A770 is that when its when the stars align, its pretty good for its price bracket. There was that bizarre anomaly early on with Hogwarts Legacy with raytracing where it had an edge over some Nvidia GPUs. And on paper the specs are there, so either Intel's drivers aren't up to task or game developers don't really optimize for Arc GPUs in mind - something that wouldn't be too hard to imagine considering their non-existent marketshare on Steam's hardware survey.
>>103283694>poorfag card with pcie 5.0 requirementdead on arrival
B770 shipping manifest. It's coming lads.
>>103293068Do you know if Linux compute drivers for Intel can coexist with AMD? Or do I need to dual boot if I want to mix
>>103292241>raytracing where it had an edge over some Nvidia GPUs.This was probably because it's just out VRAMed the NVIDIA gpus until the Hogwarts devs fixed it.I remember Hogwarts taking up to 14gbs worth when I played it.
>>103293645 AMD has HIP while intel goes through OneAPI. If this is about stablediffusion coomgenning, support was merged a year ago ( https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/14171 ) and just needs --use-ipex
Only chinks can save us
if intel's gpus had support for gpu virtualization / passthrough i'd buy them in a heartbeat
>>103295082and i by that i mean proper / something that works well out of the box
>>103291785working as intendedthe 6950xt has two power limits>short duration 1200w at 10ms>long duration: 284w at 100ms
>>103288385>hohol game
>>103293068I'm still coping that the B770 actually comes out, because if the rumors are that some random Youtuber and their "sources" claim that Intel is unsure about releasing it, that'll be one potentially great upgrade path gone. And that'll just result in another situation like the RX7000/RTX400 gen where AMD and Nvidia just do nothing exciting beyond frame gen.
>>103291710A770 was originally supposed to be a 3070 competitor with double the vram on the LE. Too bad in the real world it's anywhere from 3060~3060TI in games to 3070 in compute/encode.>>103291643>>103290871256-bit bus means 16gb of vram, but they can double it to 32gb which is a pipe dream.
>>103292504Quick rundown? I thought PCIe 5.0 devices were supposed to be compatible with PCIe 4.0 and 3.0 motherboards?
>>103295300>day 1000+ of 3 day SMO >Russians are attempting suicidal Lada assaults to try and retake the Kursk region >Stalker is released under a still free Ukraine
>>103283694
>>103295722>Stalker is released under a still free Ukrainethe devs went to czech 3 yrs ago, ivan.
>>103295181>the 6950xt has two power limits>>short duration 1200w at 10msI noticed. Where's the best place to find this info next time before I just buy something? Should I have used pcpartsbuilder?
>>103295855>that animationtopkek
>>103288385should i be afraid if my card isnt on the list?
>>1032966701080p is the least popular new gaming pc resolution.I recommend the following:1. examine the infographic image2. locate the header and footer - there may be multiple, or only one.3. Scan for "1080p" or "rtx 4090". sometimes it's "rtx4090".4. If you locate any of those strings, close the tab, if it's a review site. If it's a post, just ignore the post. If it's a thread, report it for low quality - it's literally low quality :^)
>>103283694Wow, incredible specs. Looks like it could maybe have competed against a mid range RDNA2 card in 2020.
>>103297135Y-you aren't going t-to give Intel your loosh?
>>1032971351080p is the only relevant gaming resolution.
>>103288385>paying several thousand for native 1080p over 90Hz in 2024 (with awful 1% lows)Good thing I'm not interested in new games.
>>103295699They are. Just run with reduced bandwidth.This means that the target audience for this card won't even be able to use it properly
