>>103284984
use IRC

>>103285009
IRC not browser based right? Need install of sorts

>>103284984
Alternatives as in a drop in replacement all-in-one platform? Doesn't exist, probably never will.
Alternatives as in individual programs to replace specific parts of Discord? Be more specific.

>>103285028
This. Remember, Discord wasn't always this draconian censorship/spyware/tranny central. It only happened in the last few years when Trump derangement syndrome took over and the leftist were promoting the grooming and castration ideology like crazy.

>>103285047
It always has been an irredeemable shithole they just used to be better at hiding it. If you don't believe me just look up the founders previous company, how and why it ended.

>>103285025
im sure there's extensions but there's a bunch of chat apps for IRC. mIRC is most popular for windows and for linux hexchat or weechat. i use konversion on KDE

>>103285059
In its early days, it was just a skype alternative for gamers, a wow raid tool mainly. It then evolved into a leftist grooming service

Unfortunately tox clients are no longer maintained so the only thing I can think of for voice is mumble, which, lmaoooo

>>103285025
It's just a protocol, you can run access an IRC server trough the browser. It's complete dogshit though, much worse than Discord or pretty much any modern chat client in the modern era.

The complaints on here are mostly childish and related to the scale of Discord which has grown up problems that people on here are incapable of engaging with honestly.

>>103285028
What makes you think no alternative is likely? Just need digital rooms with peer-to-peer voice chat and let people use it through vps and tor.

Also what's up with this wait time to post on 4chan? Haven't been on for a while, but this is just unreasonable.

I'm 90% sure mods here will stalk your IP sometimes. Not even to ban you, just to follow you around the website.

>>103284984
>use voice chat software
>complain when it needs to record voice to send it to other people
tiring seeing this take on every "privacy" discussion
are people deliberately dumb or just ignorant

>>103285239
> Just need digital rooms with peer-to-peer voice chat and let people use it through vps and tor.

Yes, just make your "Discord alternative" be overrun by bots and pedos, I'm surprised nobody thought of that idea before.

>>103285311
plot twist: anon is a pedo with a bot farm

>>103285239
>What makes you think no alternative is likely?
Exactly because it is so easy (on paper) and yet no one has implemented anything like it. There have been attempts sure but they all failed in one way or another (failing outright, not delivering on promises, etc).
As for the new timer it was implemented to stop spam which worked out just as great as the other times which is to say annoys actual users and does nothing to stop spam.

>>103285258
Make it 100%. I know for a fact some moderators here are monitoring users and participating in discussions without revealing their moderator status. It’s one of the unique appeals of 4chan.

matrix would be a viable alternative if it wasn't written in fucking python

>>103284984
schizo momento?

>>103285342
Weird fetish, considering most people who have used this website for more than a few months want them dead.

>>103284984
>Is it true that discord eavesdrops on voice chat and records this?
Yes, they also sell all this data including chat logs, voice calls, video calls and logs of applications you run on your PC. It's all literally in the TOS which nobody bothers to read.
>In the affirmative what are alternatives to discord?
>>103285028
>Doesn't exist, probably never will.
Matrix/Element fully replaces Discord. It's not perfect and full of bugs but so is Discord.

>>103285081
>mIRC is most popular for windows
it's hexchat
hexchat > all

>>103284984
Alright some of them (https://allchans.org/) actually got potential to be an alternative to discord.

>>103284984
>Is it true that discord eavesdrops on voice chat and records this?
retarded faggot literally everything does this
>>SIGAD US-984XN

>>103284984
what do you think, nigger? i mean, logically. how many people use discord daily? how big is the accumulated stream of a typical discord talk (not counting people that are terminally online and can sit in a call for 12h without speaking). discord is not google or microsoft, they don't have the fucking infrastructure to even slightly approach the level of mass surveilance you're suggesting

>>103285665
they have ai algorithms that calculate the likelihood someone is a transphobic racist. anyone high enough on the list gets recorded

>>103284984
they collect all data and use NLP to decode all the stuff you talk about and have god view its prob a geek for them on the backend

>>103285047
>>103285028
I still get a laugh out of the wikipedia article for discord describing it as an "Alt-right" platform, because some neo-nazi guild used it.

>>103285009
literally one of the most popular clients died and nobody talked about it, irc is fucking dead

>>103285615
literally dead client

>>103287473
im on IRC everyday, not dead just zoomer free

>>103284984
I hope all zoomers get roped!

>>103287473
also up until 2023 Twitch chat used IRC. it's anything but dead

>>103285025
There are web apps that you can use for IRC. Mibbit is a popular one - some projects with official IRC channels will link to Mibbit for people who want to try the IRC channel before they decide to download a client.

Free clients aren't difficult to find, either. HexChat is popular among both Windows and Linux users. There are plugins for both vim and emacs if you're a turbonerd, although if you're using web applications those will probably be a far reach for you.

>>103284984
>In the affirmative what are alternatives to discord?
I'd like to tell you that Guilded is a viable option, but Roblox basically just merced it by requiring you to sign in with a Roblox account. Matrix is OK but its decentralized design is confusing for new users and honestly I only ever used it for a couple of days before giving it up.

>>103285258
it (so obviously) happened to me more than once

>>103285258
That's why you should phonepost

>>103285025
You will often get ridiculed for using a web client, so a solid local client is better advised.

>>103284984
Yes

>>103287490
it still works

>>103286242
I think you're hallucinating.

>>103288250
That's just as vile as becoming a janitor or mod.

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>>103286242
What kind of wikipedia are you reading?

>>103286242
it's popular with the alt right != it's an alt right platform

>>103284984
>Is it true that discord eavesdrops on voice chat and records this?
they have the ability to do this. they have a ghost function for their staff. this allows them to join any server and monitor what's going on. supposedly they only do this if accounts have been reported.

>>103284984
>In the affirmative what are alternatives to discord?
Honestly I think the best one is xmpp, I mean IRC is ok but I feel like people just like it for the nostalgia

>Anons seething that most anons have friends

>>103284984
self host your own voice and text chat with either Murmur or uMurmur if you don't need to let people create channels. uMurmur is so lightweight it can run on your Linux router and has excellent voice quality using Opus. The client is Mumble (desktop) or Mumla (phone).

Try uMurmur (lightweight version) out first, then shit on it.

Server: boards.nochan.net
Port:   Default (64738)

It does not replace the gifs, one would have to upload gifs somewhere like an altchan.

It does not provide video. One would have to self host Jitsi for that. It also does not do desktop sharing. Just simple voice and text chat.

>>103291530
>just use 10 different projects just to replicate what discord does out of the box

>>103291841
or just 1 lightweight daemon to get text and voice chat that corporations are sandboxed away from.

 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used    Program
  1.2 MiB + 853.5 KiB =   2.0 MiB    umurmurd

Anyone have 2MB ram free? A group can share a few semi-private or private altchans to stick it to the man.

One need not even replace Discord with other options. Just run the other options as fall-backs for the times Discord is offline and/or use it for the extra private data one does not wish to share with them. That way they think you are being a compliant citizen, but not really.

https://old.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/11ihqq6/discord_will_possibly_record_your_video_calls/

>>103292445
Gotta give them credit for trying to back-peddle. Too late. Companies will do what companies _can_ do.

>>103284984
DISCOOOORD!!! I'm howling at the moon

>>103293237
DISCOOOOOORD! Whatever did we do to make you take our world awaaaaaay!?

>>103291426
The real problem is that they think they do have friends. They think mutual public masturbation on 4chan means you have friends.

>>103284984
but they've added E2E
https://discord.com/blog/meet-dave-e2ee-for-audio-video

>>103294497
E2EE with keys generated and managed by a centralized service can never really be called E2EE. Its more of a LARP.

>>103291283
nostalgia isn't the reason. even the most brain damaged zoomer has begun to realize shit like discord isn't your friend and can't be relied on. even with their severe brainrot they've worked out how to install private irc servers on computers they own so their chats aren't shut down because someone wrote the word nigger.

>>103294497
> for audio and video
lmao
>>103294568
discord claims that they don't hold any copies of the decryption keys (i assume they're generated on the client sides). since they are proud to work with law enforcement agencies to spy on users, you can pretty much guarantee the encryption is backdoored in some way.

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>>103294497
yeah, which had a fatal flaw during review that allowed interception by Discord

Page 45 of https://github.com/trailofbits/publications/blob/master/reviews/2024-09-discord-dave-protocol-codereview.pdf

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>>103285511
I can tell homeserver capacity greatly dropped.
I used to make hundreds of alts, and now 15 alts would rape a homeserver.

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Matrix used to be more wide open than a tranny's bussyhole. Now the Jews have closed registration on their Mossad homeservers.

>>103285025
stop being a web-only nigger and start using real software

>>103284984
I dont know OP why dont you read the source code and find out what they're doing with your computer? oh you can't because it's non free slopware? welp, hope you didn't say anything compromising

>>103285009
> is it true that my mkdern car spies on me?
> is the solution to use a modern ALTERNATIVE vehicle that doesn't spy a much?
>> no gonride a horse on the freeway instead

>>103294615
but they fixed it
page 57

If you got nothing to hide, why do you care so much about it? Usually only people with things to hide freak out about it.

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>>103297295
obligatory screenshot

>>103285342
>and participating in discussions without revealing their moderator status
I constantly think about that one /vt/ mod samefagging his own mod post and forgetting to turn off his mod name indicator.

https://revolt.chat/

>>103297295
> but they fixed it

prove it, provide the source. oh wait.