Why don't you just host your own IRC server and just allow people you know?

>>103294095
What's your point? People who aren't tards know it's bad, but it is the only current alternative to discord that isn't heavily moderated.

5. here is no any open_keys_catalog served my telegram, open keys for "secret chats" stored locally and sended thought normal chats

it wants to know your phone number

thats all you need to know

>>103294095
>Telegram
>Confirmed monitored honeypot

>>103294148
it can be ok if they keep open_keys_catalog checked by phone numbers
buy they dont

>>103294160
>>Confirmed monitored honeypot
Source? Is it really when the CEO is not cooperating with the government?

>>103294178
Telegram is now 100% monitored, private chats and all. Host your own thing.

ANY SECRET CHAN WITH UKRAINE PHONE NUMBER MAKE (You)R PHONE NUMBER BUN

Pretense of security is worse than being naked

>>103294178
They routinely jailed people where I live over telegram groups involving drugs and the like Telegram gave their info out the moment gobmit requested it and now that knowledge is publicly stated after the CEOs arrest. No such thing as safe and private chat service on the open internet if someone wants to jail or rat you out they will in due time.

>>103294730
this

Text-only chat on a .onion is probably the closest one can get. Even then the client should be using the Wifi of a police department. They don't snitch on their own or risk losing their envelopes.

>>103294799
honestly an anonymous textboard like 2ch on tor/freeweb/i2p/whatever is probably the best

>>103294836
yup

>>103294799
At least half of all onion nodes are run by feds that place has been compromised since they took down silk road and all its attempted replacements.

>>103294948
>At least half of all onion nodes are run by feds
I support feds using my tax money to pay for nodes. I have a onion hidden service up right now, configured with:

grep -E "Single|NonA" /etc/tor/torrc 
HiddenServiceSingleHopMode 1
HiddenServiceNonAnonymousMode 1

Not hard to figure out its real IP given I have a chan public domain on it though. Even knowing the IP won't do much since it's just running HAProxy.

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>>103294095
has anyone else noticed that the emojis used to confirm encryption during calls seem to reflect things frequently said during calls? I see the same or similar emojis repeating often with people i speak about those things with, which i dont speak about other people with, for instance

>>103294095
Source on this cute loli?

>>103295239
gay dudes poppin cherries sucking fish?

>>103295047
this for what?

>>103296319
Every hidden service I have ever run. It keeps the end users anonymous but the server is not.

>>103294095
>lust-provoking image
>irrelevant time-wasting ramblings

>>103296358
for what?

>>103296385
All my self hosted chat servers, altchans, forums, etc...

Telegram and Signal are for retards who want to pretend they are secure. At least use something like Matrix, which is default E2EE.

>>103296422
Default e2ee *and doesn't require a phone number*. Forgot to mention that part, since Signal is E2EE, but still shit.

>>103296432
amen. phones have money trails, said Jesus.

>>103294948
Doesn't your connection have to go through 3 nodes who are all connected in different countries and laws.

>>103296414
>HiddenServiceNonAnonymousMode 1
this for what?

>>103294095
*smooch*