RTO edition>InterviewingNeetcode 150: https://neetcode.io/practiceTips and interview practice: https://blog.interviewing.io/>How to write a resumehttps://stackoverflow.blog/2020/11/25/how-to-write-an-effective-developer-resume-advice-from-a-hiring-manager/>Salary Stuff"What's your expected salary?": https://www.fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/salary-expectations-interview-question/Negotiation advice: https://github.com/petermekhaeil/salary-negotiatingSalary data: https://levels.fyi/Don't disclose your current salary to recruiters.>Layoffshttps://layoffs.fyi/>Helpful YouTube Channelshttps://www.youtube.com/@ContinuousDeliveryhttps://www.youtube.com/@EngineeringwithUtsavhttps://www.youtube.com/@ByteByteGo (systems design at a high level)https://www.youtube.com/@ycombinator (if you're doing a startup)https://www.youtube.com/@hnasr (for studying backed architecture)Previous thread: >>103276408
>>103296222>implying i didnt steal a chair when everything went remoteeven when i switched jobs they never asked for it back
>get laid off>return laptop>never return the mouseDEVILISH
>>103296222If you don't already have a desk and chair even outside of a job that sounds like a (You) problem
>>103296261Diabolical
Guys, I want a career changeWhat can I do with a masters in econ? Also should I do econ or finance?
>>103296329you could become an economist :)
>>103296265I personally keep my computer next to my bed on top of a table, but that's a choice I made because I prefer it. It's still a pretty moot point. Everyone owns a desktop and/or laptop computer, and presumably has a place to put that desktop or laptop computer. If you don't own a desktop or laptop outside of work... I don't even know what to say about you. I bought my first laptop at 16 before I even had a smartphone.
>>103296222>early thread hijacked by pajeetcode and his grifters againwew, starting off the week the wrong way I see
>>103296222AI will kill us ALL
>>103296222holy shit this image summed up my whole email adult daycare job
My career is failing. How do I pivot to a tech career. Only experience coding is taking a java course like 7 years ago, some C for a semester and some python
what do i do when left applies to me working at the office
>>103296222Feels like this is either Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk posting this thread to make at-work work sound cool.
>>103296222Vs the THAD NEET
i wasted 2 years of my life and money getting certs and my precious time studying just so i can get rejection emails and now there's no jobs left i can apply too in my state, fuck this over saturated "career">inb4 do helpdeski applied to anything entry level and stuff thats im not qualified for and used multiple job websitesanyways goodbye fuck any tech career, i will pretend it doesn't exist and do something else that's ACTUALLY going to give me a DAMN JOBnow all my certs are just paper, i did IT btw not whatever dev or programming you guys are always talking about
>>103296940RECOVERY in 2025Trust the Trump
>my dad’s whole office goes remote >brings me to office to help pack his stuff>shows me epic closet full of monitors and desktops and keyboards and mice>says i can have whatever i can carry yep. based.
do coding interviewers really ask baby-tier stuff like this?
>>103297010You have no idea the kind of retards that apply to jobs
>>103296320>$500,000$10,000 invested in 1984 would be worth $452,000 today (following a generous 10%/year gain), and when adjusted for inflation the total gain is $158,000Yeah it's a big gain but it also takes a lifetime
>>103296545Can you post this again in English
>>103296222uberchad remote viewing hermit>yep, they worked today
>>103297061>1984haha
>>103296957quit rn or trust the trump? i pick quiting and doing something that WILL GIVE ME A DAMN JOB
anyone here do more work in excel than they do in an actual programming language?I'm a former programmer who wants to get better at excel, what should I be doing besides just translating programming problems into spreadsheets?
>>103297148Pivot tables
>>103296222>no air conditioninguh maybe for europoors, most americans have ac in their home>no excuse for missing zoom meetingscan make up any excuse you want because nobody can confirm if you're telling the truth>has to track progress onlinehad to fill out time cards for billable time at all of my onsite jobs, this has nothing to do with remote vs onsitewas this meme made by management shills pushing for RTO?
>>103297148anything I could do in excel i can do way faster in pandas
>>103297148Learn how to make and write array formulasLearn how to set up good conditional formattingLearn how to use VLOOKUP (or XLOOKUP if you have a newer version)
>>103296957Normies are super excited about Trump which is how you know he's just another special interest shill and has been for years. If normies are every excited about something it's a guaranteed sign that it's dogshit and that they're at minimum 10 years late to it. Normies are the dumbest and most destructive force on planet Earth they're just like a swarm of locust they only exist to spread cringe, desolation, and death.
>>103296261Accessories don't go back. I've got a monitor, desk, monitor arm, headphones, and chair all from the company wfh benefit. They're not getting a thing but the laptop back if I ever leave.
>>103297214what is "pandas"?
>>103297220>Learn how to make and write array formulasokay, looking this up, is it kind of like using "safe programming practices" but for excel?>Learn how to set up good conditional formattingis this like using IF statements and cell value rules such?>Learn how to use VLOOKUP (or XLOOKUP if you have a newer version)I'm already a pro at this ;)
>>103297220>VLOOKUP (or XLOOKUP if you have a newer version)As if you don't use INDEX MATCH on older versions
>apply to advert on job board like Linkedin>get automated email saying thanks, but to 'progress' your application, you actually need to set up an account on this other job boardHow do these people stay in business?
>>103297286Conditional formatting is right there in the style tab my brother
>>103296222>wfh>literally don't leave bed>heating and AC can be set to whatever I want instead of making a service ticket with the office janny>miss meetings all the time, people just assume you have a doctor's appointment or are taking your kids to school>do nothing all day
>>103297299but I'm using [spoiler]Google Sheets[/spoiler]
>>103297302Multiple times every week, I fall asleep in meetings.I'm not even sure if they notice or not. Just I wake up an hour later and I'm the only one still in the teams meeting.
>>103297286>is it kind of like using "safe programming practices" but for excel?What? No, array formulas are special. They let you perform operations on each item in a range. You have to press Ctrl+Shift+Enter to make an array function (which shows the {}). Pic related is an etremely simple example. Normally you can't add to a range, but with an array formula you can.
>>103297309Then it's under Format
Array formulas require caution
>>103297302Sounds grim
>>103297066Which action does one take when the left portion of the original poster's image is applicable to my own person while working at my employers designated real estate?
>>103297314oh, I understand that, I meant like are these used because they are "safer" than just doing a formula and pulling it down?
>>103297341No need to be cautious ,array formulas are fun, here's one I wrote>>103297355...safer than what? Array formulas let you perform operations in one formula that would normally require multiple intermediate cells and formulas. Like the one I posted above:There are five numbers (1-5) and the cell directly below sums them. The one that's highlighted takes the range, adds 1 to each, and then sums those results. There's no other way to do that in one formula (without doing some kind of fake cheating). If you wanted to do it without an array formula, you would need a second column in E that adds 1 to its neighbor in D, and then sum those.
>>103297393Oh forgot to add the pic of my array formula.I know what it does, but idk how it works anymore. I wrote it months ago.
>>103297010It would be a good filter for fresh grads if it wasn't so common. You'd be surprised how many people freeze up when you ask them to do simple stuff like fizzbuzz, printing a string in reverse, etc.
why is reversing a string excel so fucking complicated?
>>103297402Do you hate structured references or something
>>103297438Anon I hate everything
?detacilpmoc gnikcuf os lecxe gnirts a gnisrever si yhw
>>103297446I dun ged id
>>103297438>>103297443Also I can't really use structured references because I use that formula in every column, and thus most of the cell references change each column.
>>103297498Brother you have a table of values, of course you can use structured references
i feel like a retard all the time. will this feeling ever go away?
>>103297621Once you become knowledgeable enough to feel like a smug faggot, that's the time you're going to be humbled back into a gay retard. It works in cycles.
>>103296222i'm starting to code some cool software for my curriculum, what type of license should i put? GPL or BSD?
>>103296957Trump's going all in on H1Bs so have fun with that lmao
>>103297683You really think he's gonna turn the USA into Canada 2.0?
>>103297694i KNOWNo that's not a caps lock error
>>103297694He literally said he wanted to copy their immigration policy during his campaign.
I'm not racist, but whenever I answer the phone and hear a slight delay followed by an Indian voice I hang up immediately Indian telemarketing has been a global disaster for the perception of Indians
>>103297647>>>/g/sqt
>>103297694They're already talking about it. With any luck we can just flush our punjabis straight across the border and let America deal with them.
>>103297850nah you can keep your sars>>103297026kek, that sounds crazy but I've seen some bad resumes.
>>103297694lmao trumpniggers literally don't even fucking listen to what he says
>>103297026>ENTRY level>durr why dont dey have one plus two yeersofexbeerence in de rezoome >:^(The 'recruiter' is the retard here, would fire him and hire Bateman instead
>>103297873>nah you can keep your sarsYeah we want fresh saars, not the ones civilised (even if only 0.1%) by the leafs
>>103298012Entry level doesn't mean no experience dumbass. No wonder you don't have a job saaars
>>103298012trvke
>>103298012Entry level doesn't mean no qualifications whatsoever
>>103298012based
>Have 3 internships>Only offer is from a WITCH companyIt is over bros? I already accepted it because the market doesn't seem to get any better. I know I should keep trying but it seems so pointless DESU.
>>103298052>no qualificationsAlmost everything listed was about job history, with the exception of the last two.
would you all rather work for an Israeli tech company, or a Palestinian tech company?
>>103298106All tech companies are israeli tech companies.
>>103298106If you work for an israeli tech company you make more money, and you can make even more by selling its secrets to Palestinian tech companies.
>>103298125>Palestinians>money
>>103298132$1 is $1.
>>103298125>Palestinian tech companieswhich Palestinian tech companies?
>>103296222I work remotely and I aint going to an office.Any who tries can suck my dick.
>>103298089Somehow I feel the guys he listed weren't grads or geniuses with awesome dev projects listed elsewhere on their resume
>>103297026>>103298052>>103298043Not him, but if you're not applying through networking/nepotism you're getting thrown in an automated system that filters for the best possible qualificationsfor said position. It's a massive problem because you could have a good resume, but not have 1 thing, and get filtered out.At my current job all of the people who got hired through in-person interviews or referrals are great. The people who just had their resume loaded with "experience" are walking liabilities or waste of a payroll, and contribute far les work.
>>103298180Why is it a massive problem that the people with the best qualifications are being selected for interviews
>>103298174>with awesome dev projectsI don't think anyone cares about your projects.
>>103298198nta but i assume because what the filter ends up leaving behind is lying jeets that pretend to have everything the job wants but dont actually know shit
>>103298198It incentivizes tailoring your resume per application (lying).
>>103298198The people with the "best" resumes get selecte. Not best qualifications. You don't know what a person is capable of until you are able to meet them face to face.
>>103298229You'll know what I'm capable of long before we meet
>>103298251Absolutely nothing.I know this because you're on 4chan.
>>103298251You'll never know what kind of farts I'm capable of as long as we never meet to face to face at an all you can eat Mexican buffet
>>103298180>networking/nepotismfuck me dead
>>103298180>At my current job all of the people who got hired through in-person interviews or referrals are great. The people who just had their resume loaded with "experience" are walking liabilities or waste of a payroll, and contribute far les work.are you saying that your company hired some people based solely on their resumes, without ever interviewing them?
>>103298623re-read his post and realise your error
>>103295932>>didn't buy bitcoin at 40k because i was broke>>didn't buy at 60k because i was broke>>didn't buy at 70k because i was broke>>didn't buy at 90k because i was broke
>>103298701post doesn't make any senseyou can buy like $1 of BTC
>>103298708not your keys not your coins
>>103298701I didn't buy bitcoin because it's a volatile asset with no actual use case (that isn't done better via other coins) and I'm not into gambling.
>>103298732assets do not need a use case. they just need people's trust. if people think they are worth something, they are worth something.I also sold all my crypto but only because I do not want to associate with the likes of Elon Musk etc
>>103298758what a stupid reason to divest
>>103297148pivot tables and dashboards are the best thing to impress hr roasties, in actual practice i use excel a lot for tracking inventory and doing lots of lookup operations (e.g. i know local asset number 42069 is in room 4, then it auto-populates what/where room 4 is, what 42069 is, then those auto-fills have their own deeper lookups, etc)>>103297286>brooooo im an apex programmer broooo but i dont know what an array isjesus christ>>103297355no. it's a fucking FOR loop
>>103298732also this. if i want to meme out as a daytrader i can make reasonable informed decisions e.g. maybe i should hit up MUH GOLD if a war is maybe possibly in angola next year and i can dump it when it actually happens and gold is high.bitcoin and other meme coins, having no real use case, fluctuate essentially randomly. they appreciate quickly overall but are liable to crash when a new meme coin comes out. even the OG bitcoin has like five actual first party forks now of varying cost and quality
>>103297148using Access instead
>>103298758See? You admit it's just an asset with no use case.>if people think they are worth something, they are worth something.And that could change at any time for any reason including something as simple as "It's just banned lol".
>>103298785has there ever been a bad time to buy bitcoin in the last 8 years
>>103298793during the nft craze a ton of wallet services either got hacked or were outright scams
>>103298792>And that could change at any time for any reasonwelcome to every investment ever
>>103298800Other investments are at least tied to something.
>>103298803tesla stocks are tied to many products, yet its prices go every which way for whatever reason even regular companies can go bankrupt because of bad investments behind the scenes any investment can go to zero regardless of whether it's "tied to something"
>>103298809tesla is a meme stock like gme and bby were. if anything tesla is more dangerous because while normal companies do have to publish reports of their financial doings by law, musk/tesla has been caught not doing that multiple times and ferrying money secretly between tesla, spacex, boring, etc. as required in outright illegal financial shell gaming
>be remote>job pays for office chair and desk every time I hop>own air conditioning, I control the temperature>"Sorry boss I have an appointment at that time, can't make it">Tracking progress online is just assigning how many hours I will dedicate to each project each day
>>103297422fizzbuzz is trivial but reversing a string has a lot of gotchas >noooo you cant make a new variable >noooo you cant iterate over multiple cycles>noooo you cant just use standard.string.reverse
>>103298833you're a remote?!
no joke, a lot of developers I've spoken to don't even know what fizzbuzz is
>>103298846its origin is a bongland kindergarten game from like 1970. it basically doesnt exist outside of that specific tech industry shit-test
I'm a mostly python web (django) developer. Just got done with a big contract. This was freelance work. However because of this, I have a job interview for a fucking "WordPress Developer" job on Tuesday.So naturally I spun up a digital ocean droplet and got WordPress working and it's AIDSHow can I learn WordPress development in 2 days? Please motivate me. Seems to me that these guys crank out WordPress sites for fucking Real Estate agents so they are most likely huge retards.
>I'm a mostly python
>>103298876>>103298881would hire
I have a job fair coming up bros. Any tips? this my be my last chance to network. I'm at what feels like my lowest point mentally and I really really don't want recruiters at the job fair to notice how fucking desperate I am. I got a haircut and will buy some new clothes. My plan B is applying to sales, plan C is applying to real life janny, plan D is the rope.
>say on indeed in every application that I am not free on weekends>dipshit recruiter emails me "DOES SUNDAY WORK">fire back no>like 15 minutes later they proceed to call me literally 8 times in under a minute>because the calls overlap I can't even answer them properly>when I finally do i'm already annoyed, don't even know who's calling, say something like "hello, who is this, you called me like 8 times overlapping">first thing they say is "no I didn't" in a huff>"... and can we do a short interview right now">fine, whatever, i tell them I have about 30 minutes to spare>they ask me the most softball useless questions>literally "are you legal to work in canada" and "what motivated you apply to [company]">get through literally only those questions before they get even pissier>"UH DUE TO YOUR CONDUCT ON THE PHONE I DONT THINK UR GUNNA BE A GUD FIT FOR *MY* COMPANY, GOOD LUCK _ B U D _ " *click*>one of their other calls is actually still connectedwhat is wrong with these fucking people
>>103298876> I have a job interview
>>103298809And yet they're still tied to something so they're far more stable than BTC which is exclusively carried by FOMO.
>>103298881>>103298889I was gonna make a little gay Wordpress Forum (like 4chan) and got redirected to this gay as fuck Reddit thread.https://www.reddit.com/r/Wordpress/comments/14mqlwi/forumcommunity_based_website/?rdt=63786Might just remain unemployed.
>>103298902is it a 100% just jobs fair or is it some kind of expo? if it's more of a trade convention, i would go with the intent to just look at cool stuff. even at school job fairs, a lot of companies treat it as an opportunity to advertise. go pet a General Dynamics Big Dog>>103298913i guess we could say that btc (and meme coins) are tied to something -- the unrelenting retardation of techbros who don't understand economics
>>103298912bro I applied to like 500 jobs on LinkedIn and like 20 on Indeed. Got this one on Indeed so hang in there bud. USE INDEED!
>>103298919>>103298876idk anything about wordpress but my dad who is a web dev tells me when he had to pivot to supporting shitty wordpress sites, it was very easy and mostly just messing with the templates until the employer stopped complaining. if they're lazy enough to use wordpress, they're not going to be doing anything fancy. at worst you might have to integrate some e-commerce package (which also basically comes working as-is and you just hand it tokens and all the magic happens on their own back end)
>>103298902lock inYour fellow grads hate youYou seniors hate youEven I hate youBecause you're competitionlock inYou're coming up from zeroThat makes you dangerous You could become anythinglock in
>>103298837You're going to be making a new variable regardless unless you're using some language that lets you manually modify string char indexes. How would you require more than a single loop? This one's a little silly but I suppose they could argue it's a thought exercise more than proof you can write code that does [thing], similar to FizzBuzz, if Python decided to build in a Fizz.Buzz(n) function into the core libraries then I would expect the interviewer to ban it.
>>103298876>>103298881>>103298889>>103298919
>>103298948>How would you require more than a single loop?not a single loop, a single CYCLE
>>103298951ugly ass snake
>>103298951lufthansssssssa
>>103298951She's so fucking fat.
>>103298948You can swap two characters by treating them as integers, and using the following procedure: a <= a - bb <= (b + a)/2a <= b - aSo just repeat this for the first and last character, second first and second last, and so on. No new variables created.
>>103298984>So just repeat this for the first and last character, second first and second last, and so on.doesn't execute in one cycle; you have been added to The Blacklist and an invoice for wasting the interviewer's time is forthcoming
Gonna spin up a wordpress droplet and give you guys access.
>>103299012username: 4chanpassword: BigBootyBut1112Make me something good and show me the power of wordpress
Thoughts about what this teaches you about B2B sales?
>>103299025http://24.199.99.123
>>103299031>>103299025>>103299012I'm going to fuck you up
>>103299031>>103299025shan't be clicking this nor doing your homework
>>103299043I'm a 32 year old engineer bro. I graduated a decade ago
>>103299046
>>103299046>im an engineer but i can't make a wordpress site
my brain is all fried from porn lolthere's no saving me at this pointi already try to go easy on myself by just studying for 2 hours in the morning and then 2 hours afternoon, even abandoning webdev completely to just try to focus on basic shit like QA. I even try to just decide to make something artsy fartsy without pressure for a week so i can take a breather, but even that is too unappealing compared to gooning on agnai, /trash/, and r34.
>>103298989what do you mean, one CPU cycle? You can maybe load one thing from memory in that time.
>>103299071I had sex earlier today and i'm gonna jack off again. She told me we can have threesomes.
Finally passed this shit. Fuck me, that was hard. Any other CCNAs in here? How did it influence your income?
>>103299086My boss told me I have to work for 2 years as Monitor installer before he considers paying for this
>>103299025This is all it is, literally MySpace 2024
>>103299091lol nigga what? The test cost me around 300 USD and 100 for study materials, just pay for it yourself. Surely you can escape monitor installation hell with the CCNA
>>103299077with another dude or a girl?
>>103299072loops are forbidden
>>103299115okay I will do it by swizzling. string.xyzw = string.wzyx;
>>103299112girl :)And then she'll say it has to be with a dude next so i'll dump her
>>103299115Go to :^)
>>103299134called the police
>>103296261Except I didn't return either of the laptops.DEMONIC
>>103297239where i work this is actually the policy. we tell people that it'd be nice if periphals we loan out came back but they aren't actually accounted for in any meaningful sense and if you "stole" any it's on the same tier as stealing pens.
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>>103299235HR cunts are too stupid to ask this. Go away Indian.
Well, /g/, are you a ghost engineer? You surely are not one of those leeches that ruin the productivity of our greater Israel!https://x.com/yegordb/status/1859290734257635439
