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>>103296823
>AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500, Corsair 4000D airflow
Nothing wrong with a Corsair 4000D Airflow.

>>103296860
Agreed anon, ridiculous and unfounded FUD. 4000D airflow is literally the standard and has been for half a decade, it's unimpeachable.

>>103296860
Nothing wrong with Silent cases either. They are designed to be silent, which obviously means slightly less airflow. You don't need a full mesh panel for every setup.

>still waiting for 5090 and 9950x3D

How bad is the b650e Steel Legend? Someone was saying before it was worse than the b650 Steel Legend but I can actually find this one locally. Can also find the b650e Taichi locally but I don't know if I need to spend $270 on a mobo

>>103296934
For me it's 5080 and 9800x3d. I bought a 4k oled monitor though in anticipation.

so eventually FSR4 is going to be available for 7000 series GPUs as well right? the hardware is already ready and they're waiting for 8000 series before releasing it so it can be available to both 7000 and 8000 series without making people with older GPUs feel too bad if they released it now to 7000 only instead of 6000? Is that how it works?

>>103296860
Too small

>>103296860
Avoid "fishtanks" and glass panels in general. Avoid Corsair 4000D Dustflow.

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>Bought ASUS PG32UCDM Friday about at midnight
>At the time Amazon said it would arrive Tuesday
>Now the page says December 6 - January 11, "usually ships within one to two months"
>My orders page still says arriving Tuesday
>But it hasn't shipped yet
I'm scared they're gonna say "oopsie this isn't actually coming for a month haha". They've already charged my credit card

>>103296996
Ordering at this time of the year comes with such additional risks.

>>103296823
Placed an order at a local place for a 4070 Super. Apparently they're out of stock but I was offered a 4070TI for the price of a Super. Is this a good deal?

>>103296990
I was looking at the A3 and AP201 review vids and there's barely any difference between having the mesh panel vs glass panel since the airflow is mostly from bottom intake to top exhaust anyways

For ITX cases it's a different story, glass panel vs mesh panel on NR200 is a big difference thermally. I'm guessing since there's no extra space horizontally for air to flow through more freely so it's relying more on the mesh

>>103297016
I’d slap you if I could

>>103296970
Pretty much

>>103296955
how is it? what brightness and does it feel bright?

>>103296955
you're like me

>>103297033
I guess due to the introduction of the Super and Ti Super line of cards, the store owner still had a couple in his storage that he wasn't planning to sell but I struck up a good conversation with him and he offered it at Super pricing. Also sorry the last time I bought a gpu was the 1080 TI back in 2018

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>>103296987
Fits a fullsize ATX mobo and a 4080 Super. Sure it's too small?

How come PCIE 5.0 drives fail to overtake old 4.0 drives in random read/write? https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/benchmarks/#sort=-randread50&page=1

>>103297091
>60w cpu with aio
>600w gpu aircooled with 2kg metal hanging freely in the case unless you use a 3rd party support
make it make sense

>>103297091
You can't even do 360 aio in front so yeah small

Are there any good mobos on sale for early black friday for a 9800x3d?

>>103297099
It started with an 8700K/Z370 I had laying around. I overclocked it to 5ghz and it needed the AIO. It had my old 3080 ti. The 4080 Super was from my 13700K which I dry docked because it's a 13700K. And the 5700x3d/B500 was an upgrade from the 8700K setup.

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>>103296860
where's the second usb-a port anon? they wouldn't just cut off one of them, right?

>>103297117
B550*

is corsair vengeance bad

>>103297098
because neither of them are bottlenecked by the interface speed for random r/w

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man as soon as I decided to get OLED now I'm torn between the choices in my price range

Was planning to get the flat Alienware 1440p 240hz OLED for like ~CAD$750
then I see this in the same price range too
And I'm still thinking about OLED 4K too just for watching 4K movies, would love to see how LOTR trilogy or Bladerunner would look on it

CAD$807 is like US$570

is a 4090 enough to run Shadow Man?

>>103297141
just go 4k qd-oled at these prices, everything else looks like a low-res mess, especially when 3440x1440 is stretched across 34": it looks awful.

>>103297123
>Usb 3.0 header is supposed to have 2 ports
Wait are case manufacturers intentionally cutting one out?

>>103297141
*the Alienware 1440p 360hz i mean
I don't really need 360hz vs 240hz since i dont think a 7700x+7900xtx is going to get anywhere close to 360hz never mind 240hz

also tempted for the MSI 4K OLED 160hz for ~CAD$900

>>103297123
There's 7 USB-A ports on the IO panel. I'm good.

>>103297099
I've been saying for a while that GPUs will need to come with an aio pre installed as CPUs don't really need them nowadays.

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>>103297159
really makes you think

>>103297136
I have it in DDR4 and DDR5, it's been fine. But, Corsair doesn't make their ram, so who know what's underneath all of them.

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>>103297150
>just go 4k qd-oled at these prices,
it's in CAD
the cheapest 4K QD-OLED we can get for now is this, approx US$680

I am definitely tempted, i can at least downscale to 1080p 160hz if it's a newer game, or just use my secondary monitor that's not OLED (1440p 144hz).
Maybe questionable on downscaling to 1080p on a 32 inch but it might still work out if my viewing distance would be slightly farther anyways?

yeah but you're right, I'm definitely leaning towards the 4K now if only for movies since I won't have space for an OLED TV yet (i am still living with housemates becoz canada real estate is garbage and i dont want to settle for a shitty 1 bedroom condo)

>>103297185
Funny thing is my case has a c type port but my mobo doesn't have a 3.2 gen 2 header so I have a useless c port kek

>>103297192
I have been using 4K for 9 years, I can assure you anon, it's time. You will love it. It was really impactful for me for movies even before OLED and you get the best of games, even with upscaling.

>>103297197
I did a 5600X build recently and the mobo didn't have USB-C. I snagged this:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09GKLN7RT

It works fine. Just make sure you install the drivers. It came with a CD and I had a cheap-ass Dell USB DVD drive and used that. Probably online, too.

>>103297107
Yes but all the good ones are sold out kek. Dire state of affairs

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How big should a mouse pad and a table be?
I'm really used to small pads like this. I'm using stock windows mouse settings, so I can drag mouse across desktop for around 6-7 centimeters of movement.

>>103297207
yes i've always wanted 4K, thats why I bought a 7900XTX
I guess it'll be easier to play 1080p on it vs 1440p for the shitty unoptimized games, hoping FSR4 will solve that at least since I do want to play Monster Hunter Wild in 4K not 1080p

>wanna buy cheap oled from amazon US store that is shipping for free to my country
>forgot that we use 240v
ah fuck

blows my mind people are spending $1000 on single monitors when shit like a G274QPF-QD ($205) or G2724D ($150) exist. theres no way oled is actually worth the premium.

>>103297246
People don't want budget crap screens anymore, and if they do they arent bragging about it, they're not interesting.

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>>103297257
but what are people doing with these monitors that justifies their prices? i sincerely doubt that anyone here is doing work that requires excellent color calibration or benefits from obscene refresh rates. where is the value behind the cost?

fuck upscaling and fuck frame gen
this shit exists for devs to be even shittier
>2030
>upscaling and/or frame gen is mandatory to reach 60 fps on 4k
thanks, chatgpt devs

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baguette here

I've already purchased RAM, SSD and a ryzen 5 9600x on aliexpress (7600 was more expensive and 7500f was out of stock). Currently waiting for a good sale in the following week for a GPU

This is for 1440p gaming btw

I have a few questions:
Is a 7900XT overkill? is the Montech good enough, and should I add a fan on the top of the case as exhaust?

also any recommendations on the motherboard? B650 Steel Legend is either out of stock or 30 euros more than it should be, and X870 are over 250 euros

thanks in advance

>>103297269
general media consumption looks better on an OLED screen compared to other displays, it's night and day difference

>>103297269
people want the best, you obviously need a GPU of equal or higher value to get the best out of it. High-end buyers. That's it. The same people buying the other halo products, what is so hard for you to get about that? It also happens to look a lot fucking better with no light bleed and instant response times, there's the value, if you aren't sensitive to that, enjoy the savings!

>>103297245
just plug it in one hole

>>103297273
just go play old games retard

>>103297269
Because watching anything on OLED is miles better? It's pretty simple thing

>>103297285
in 2030 I'll be still playing skyrim and fallout 4 with sex mods BECAUSE of shitty devs
that's why we can't have nice things anymore

>>103297246
i have two 27" lcd 1440p 144hz as my pc set up

i went in-store to check out the OLED monitors/TVs in real life, i am fucking sold i dont care if it only lasts for 4-5 years because that's how long I've been keeping even LCD screens before I replace them
I want to watch Bladerunner, both of them, in OLED man i already know it'd be amazing

>>103297246
>>103297300
Do you see anon? people with money want a screen that matches the experience they expect, the experience their TV and phones have given them for nearly a decade. It's not rocket science.

>>103297273
It's 2024 and most games being released already require dlss/fsr to get to 60fps on every single resolution.

i just realized I'd love to have a PC with a bluray disc drive
I could get a bluray USB drive but it isnt as sovlful

guess I'll just pirate the 4K movies instead

>>103297246
$800 for one of the 360hz QD-OLEDs, media consumption is just so much better on oled and it's not even close.

>>103297308
Fractal pop air has room for a Blu-ray player

>>103297185
Do Corsair cucks rewlly

>>103297316
MSI's 1440 360hz QD-OLED has gotten as low as $579. It's that low on Amazon US right now.

With GPU air cooling, is CPU AIO placement at front or top preferable?

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Is there any tangible benefit to x670 or x870 or just a waste of money?

>>103297334
I bought it when it was like $799, shit was a no brainer for me.

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>>103297230
Big enough to be comfortable I guess? That's really up to personal preference.
I got one of those Arozzi gaymin desks and I'm really happy with it. The whole surface is a mouse pad and there's plenty of space.

>>103297340
You always want the aio on top of you have room

>>103297192
That's good, get it. Resolution and size are perfect. Dunno about that burn in though.

>>103297344
I'm wondering the same thing: >>103297277
guess the main difference is PCIE 5, but I'm as clueless as you anon

>>103297277
Wow I didn't expect to see zen5 crashing below zen4 prices this year

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Running out of space on my hy**us partition, but also don't have any more NVMe slots.
Is that kind of downloads+database load too much for QLC to handle?
8TB TLC NVMe cost way too much in my area so I'm picking between $400 8TB QVO or some $250 4TB TLC SATA.

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>>103297361
Got lucky with a sale on aliexpress

>>103297277
>also any recommendations on the motherboard?
If you don't want to pay the 30 eur extra the msi board is fine, or gigabyte aorus elite ax v2. msi board used to have comparatively slow boot times but I believe it has been fixed in bios updates. Steel legend is "THE" b650 board though which is why it's sold out everywhere. You could also consider b650e riptide if that's available

>>103297348
yea it's been a good deal for most of its life considering how much 360hz monitors used to cost.
>>103297361
It is technically cheaper to make so it should be cheaper, and it has had a glut of oversupply due to a shit launch.

>>103297316
yeah, I kinda understand not getting OLED years ago when it was $1500-$2000+ but I think it's reasonable now and paying a $500 premium to get it sooner now is basically how I see it
sure it might be <$500 in a year or so when it becomes more widespread but that's a whole year, possibly longer, that im sticking with LCD

>>103296990
Why avoid fishtanks? I was think of getting the h6 flow

>>103294087
Steel Legend, Pro RS sucks.

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>>103297417
just check reviews for thermals, pic related for AP201 + A3. For the A3 there's barely any difference between the tempered glass vs mesh panel

also interesting note, bottom fans are useless sometimes, particularly for smaller cases when the GPU is already so close to the bottom mesh

>>103297378
B650e riptide is way more expensive than the steel legend. I can always try to get the steel legend on a sale. By sale I mean sometimes it goes to its normal price.

For reference, current prices are 187 euros for the tomahawk, 230 for the steel legend (sometimes 200 on a very good sale), and 260 for the riptide.

I really liked the Taichi lite looks but it costs 300 and that would just be silly lol

Another question, should I wait for the next gen or is getting a gpu on black friday good enough?

>>103297417
Usually due to crappier thermals, but if you're buying one just make sure to have good cooling for your parts. Usually you want an aio and at least 2 140s feeding the GPU from the bottom.

What cooler would you guys recommend pairing with a 9800x3d?

I got a peerless assassin with my new PC but my CPU has been running hot

>>103297463
>CPU has been running hot
Define hot

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Looking for 1440p 27" VA displays, preferably not curved, what are anons' thoughts on the Samsung Odyssey G51C? I don't play many fast paced games, I care more about contrast ratio and good picture quality. OLED is out of my budget.

>>103297207
I'm on 32" 4k since 2017. Acer Predator. It's the perfect size, aspect ratio and resolution. I will forever stay with it, only a higher refresh version is about to come on my desk.

>>103297359
Yeah I can't find any reason. PCIE 5 doesn't seem it will be relevant this decade, and a few more lanes I won't use and slightly better I/O aren't worth spending 2-3x. There seems to be less distinction between chipsets than the last time I built.

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>>103297417
I did a 1080p build for a friend in an Okinos Aqua 7 fish tank. It's fine. AMD 5600x, GTX 1080. It comes with 6 fans and the thermals were great. Neither CPU or GPU exceeded 70° in stress tests and usually ran a lot cooler.

MSI MAG 321UP is literally the perfect 32-inch 4K OLED monitor right now for me

165hz is enough I don't fucking need 240hz I don't think I'd ever reach 240 fps on most games I play even with my 4090 and I don't ever need a KVM switch

Wish there were more 165hz options at 4k 32-inch QD-OLED. heck even a 144hz would be fine... I hate this higher refresh rate meme upsell.

>>103297230
That looks like a prison cell. I would get depressive there. I always need a large window behind my display so my eyes can "touch grass" once in a while.

>>103297512
I started with a 21" 4K iMac that was 4096x2160 (4K DCI) in late 2015 and is now up to 32" UHD QD-OLED, so a good bit less sharp, but much higher quality. I would like hi-refresh 6K or 8K to be an option. I would still play at 4K though.

>>103297463
i bought pic related for my 7700X, i presume the 9800X3D is prob similar heat (basically not really hot)

imo if it doesnt need a huge tower cooler dont bother, those things will annoyingly sag a bit, ive done it before on midrange CPUs that arent hot in the first place and it's really unnecessary since the bulk imeding the airflow can affect GPU temps too which is usually the hotter one to deal with for gaming builds lopsided towards GPU

>>103297273
Re engine and ue5 are the biggest mistakes ever

>>103297539
are you copying me since i just posted it or have you been thinking about it for awhile too

can u share ur insights on it if so?
I also dont need 240hz, but I'm still worried if 165hz might mean there's other things with the model that were cut down
Hard to find decent reviews on this model compared to others

also might as well wait 5 more days for BF/CM in case there are better deals on OLED

i hope the MSI one goes down another -10%

>>103297230
>mouse pad
Haven't used one since forever.
>table
As big as room allows.
My current is a custom 2400x800x25mm particle board on ikea meme drawers.

PTM 7950 is so cool

>>103297579
I've been thinking it for a while really. Now it's at $700 in amazon now, I really wish there were more options for 165hz range.

>Hard to find decent reviews on this model compared to others
Because it's newer than the 240hz models I think. Very tempting right now I don't really need 240hz on 4k monitors. Though I wonder the difference between 240hz and 165hz, how much does that really cost the manufacturer. I don't really understand how monitor manufacturing works... in CPUs I understand yields and binning.

>>103297349
> Arozzi
Do they deliver to Portugal? I'm currently using a 170x90cm glass tabletop but it's a tad too deep.160x82cm seems perfect.

>>103297533
pretty much this, guess I'll stick with the Tomahawk if I don't find the Steel Legend on a sale

yes you're right i see that now, 321UP is the same generation 3 as all the new panels this year, so all it's just 165hz vs 240/340hz the other models have

I'll get 240/340 whatever the fk later on after 5 years when i gotta replace this. I'll still wait for Black Friday though just in case

>>103297662
>>103297533
The Tomahawk is a good board. If your place has a long return policy due to holiday you could just grab that and switch if the Steel Legend goes on a sale. But honestly, you'll be happy either way I think.

>>103297656
I just found the info:
> Portugal 4 – 5 Business Days UPS
Okay, I will get the motorized version for christmas if in stock.

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i want to pull the trigger so bad bros
convince me not to please

>>103297656
Yeah looks like it. I got mine from a local site rather than the official one because import taxes and international shipping suck ass.

>>103297732
is the Enthoo Pro worth using these days

>>103297067
hasn't arrived yet

>>103297727
>convince me not to please
I'll call you gay if you do it

>>103297727
the pixel density at 27/1440 is shit. Go 32/4k. The cheapest MSI 4k monitor is only $665. High refresh rate is a meme, more pixels is better.

>>103297727
i get that 1440p is prob the best even a 7900XTX or 4090 can do with newer shitty games, but what games are you actually play?
4K 32" is going to be on a bigger screen AND have higher DPI, plus it'd be the native resolution for watching 4K movies especially since it's OLED

after watching the mediocre amazon LOTR series i really need to rewatch the LOTR trilogy in OLED this time

>>103297605
I still don't understand what a thermal cycle is. Like, is there a specific temp you need to raise your CPU/GPU to and then bring it down to ambient or/shut off your computer to let it cool again? I can't find any information on this other than people saying it takes like 50 cycles for it to reach optimum performance but never say what the fuck a cycle is precisely and how to make sure you've actually caused it do what to it's supposed to count as a cycle.

>>103297539
Ordered it yesterday. Not even a 4090 can hit above 165 fps at 4k so no point buying something more expensive. All the qd-oled panels are the same.

>>103297802
when is it arriving for you?

>>103297802
That's just pure buillshit, I did the math before 4090 came out and knew it would be able to hit 4K 165 in my competitive games, Hunt Shodown primarily, and it did. I had the Neo G7 4K 165. Then I got QD-OLED 240HZ and 9800X3D and the 4090 is hitting 240hz in that too. 170hz in RDR2, all 4K, so eat shit, you don't know because you haven't tried it and shouldn't be providing any advice on the matter. The 4090 is quite CPU limited and has been for most of its life, and still is with the 9800X3D,

>>103297783
> watching 4K movies
Who watches movies? Are you a normie?

>>103297790
>the material sees at least 15c above its transition temperature of 45c for at least 30 mins. you could also do 100c for 10 mins.

either condition should count as a thermal cycle by letting it heat up to that amount and then cool to room temp.

ptm7950 should just work after its first phase change but it gets better after 500-1000 cycles because it reformulates itself each time.

Temps on my 9800x3d are going nuts, can spike up to 94c. Do I just need something 'better' than a peerless assassin to cool this thing or what? No overclocking or anything either.

>>103297539
165Hz already is higher refresh rate in my significant opinion.

>>103297843
Do you have PMO on?

>>103297727
just buy the goyled why dont you

>>103297843
you need to blow on it

>>103297827
> The 4090 is quite CPU limited and has been for most of its life, and still is with the 9800X3D
If this is the case then it makes no sense to get even a 5090.

>>103297872
you can brute force still and there are plenty of GPU-limited scenarios at 4K still, but yes it does have me reconsider it when I was just able to unlock 30% more performance with a CPU upgrade at 4K. not normal.

>>103297872
5090 is the only non-cucked card of the 5000 series. The rest are refreshes of the 4000 series. Literally and unironically don't buy them.

>>103297843
>The next-gen Ryzen 7000 processors are engineered to run at 95°C, day in and day out, throughout their life cycle. AMD claims that all the quality analysis for the Zen 4 desktop chips was done at 95 degrees Celsius. In fact, this is the same design target the chipmaker has had for several older Ryzen families.

TSMC chips can handle up to 110C btw. AMD GPUs throttle at that 110C. Their CPUs at 95C because consumers like you think anything more is too hot.

>>103297840
There has to be a way to automate this.

>>103297843
Deinstall the cooler, clean and reapply evenly decent thermal paste not toothpaste and reinstall your cooler properly. Adjust the fancurve in your BIOS or Mobo app. Rub hands.

>>103297891
> Their CPUs at 95C
at 85°C

>>103297865
set to auto in BIOS

>>103297907
Not anymore. They bumped it to 95.

>>103297882
So you're saying to buy cheap used 4000 series when retards sell to buy new product right?

man i camt wait to have my 7700x + 7900xtx build ready
im legitimately freezing in my room right now, im renting the top half of the house but i dont think the walls have insulation so the heater cant keep up and im freezing while the rest of the house is fine

i fucking need my pc that doubles as a space heater in winter now, then in summer i have to get a long enough display/hdmi cable to leave the pc tower out my room while the monitor and everything else is in my room

>>103297915
Yes. Just make sure you aren't buying from a "like new power washer.

>>103297576
but anon, look at the graphics! the visual fidelity! it's just like real life!

>>103297907
>>103297914
You can customize the thermal limit in the BIOS. Depending on your motherboard the limit is either AMD default 95C or pussy 85C.

>>103297882
wait isnt AMD doing the same thing and only having up to 8800XT, why did they both collude to just have a refresh generation wtf

even with their CPUs, the 9700x is practically the same to the 7700x, sometimes the 7700x is better somehow too

>>103297920
Got it. Looking at picking up either a 4070 Super or 4070 ti Super. I could buy at current prices but that seems like a mistake when 5000 is so soon

>>103297916
How can 600Watts heat a room in winter? How small can your room be?

>>103297895
you can do this just playing a game or something. play bg3 for 30 mins, alt tab or pause for 5 mins, resume, repeat.

So my 4080S has a pigtail with it with 3x PCIe connections but the HX1000i only came with 2 PCIe cables, is that enough for now without causing issues?

Any good deals on ddr4 RAM right now? Looking for 2x16 GB

>>103297936
Big enough to have a desk and double bed but not much else to be fair, but the window is big (fortunately north facing so no direct sunlight)
the central heating is still running but my room would be like 16 celsius while the rest of the house is 20 celsius
yes a 600w space heater would absolutely help make it more comfortable so i dont have to wear a sweater inside my room

>>103297973
it's like $50 now even without a promo, just dont eat out for a bit

>>103297782
why are these people so sociopathic
like people actually want to click "play game" and not have to think about buying a 2k € gpu when they first move the camera ingame

>>103297973
Just sort by price on PC Part Picker and Google Shopping. It's pretty rare for something to be missing from both of those. And RAM modules are all made by the same 3 companies so it's one of the parts that you can cheap out on as long as it seems to have good ratings.

>>103297980
>16 celsius
That's comfy tier unless you're a woman and start freezing when it's under 30 celsius

>>103297782
Wrong on all accounts. Consider seeing an optometrist.

>>103297987
Perhaps, but then the problem is trying to find the best one
>>103297999
As far as I know the all manufacturer and model does matter, the problem is reliably telling what a given ram uses, it seems most models end up using different die for the same sku

>>103297980
60 is pretty comfy, desu. And I say this as so someone who lives in the South. Just throw on a long sleeve shirt, some sweatpants, and socks. Your body heat is probably escaping through your feet even if they don't feel any colder than the rest of your body. Hands too, but you can't do much about that.

>>103298001
thats what it is right now already, it wil get worse when it's actually negative outside

>>103297472
Innocn 27G1S, but it's mostly out of stock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLS2KJUHNeo

AOC miniLED with VA panel is your next option (Q27G3XMN), discounted in the US ($250).
https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27G3XMN-Adaptive-Sync-DisplayHDR-Zero-Bright-dot/dp/B0C8ZJKPWC
https://youtu.be/1FF42JtnDUI?t=97

>>103298018
yeah thats honestly it, i did start wearing my comfy thick winter socks for around the house

>>103298022
in euroland the aoc va miniled is so expensive people just buy OLED with current prices

>>103298020
Put on a good pair of socks and get comfy under a blanket. I fuckin love this time of year desu.

Here is my current computer:
>Intel i9 10900f
>RTX 3070
>Asus TUF Z490-Plus Motherboard
>32gb RAM
I'm thinking of getting perhaps a 5080 whenever it launches. My question is,
>Will I want to update my CPU?
>If I do, will I need to get a new motherboard and basically build an entire new computer?
>Should I consider doing that anyway even if it's not strictly necessary?

oled yes/no?

>>103298042
Come back Tuesday evening when I upgrade from a TN to an OLED and I will let you know.

>>103297947
>HX1000i
Buy Corsair's official 90° 12V-2x6 cable that's compatible with your PSU.
Read the guides carefully, and choose the right type of 90° connection for your video card & desired cable orientation.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-components-accessories/cp-8920348/corsair-type-4-psu-90-12v-2x6-style-b-cable-cp-8920348#tab-guides
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/power-supply-units/what-is-the-difference-between-corsair-type-4-and-type-5-cables/
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/power-supply-units/corsair-12v-2x6-90-degree-angled-gpu-power-cable/

>>103298037
Oh man I should've mentioned, I am getting a 240hz 4K monitor so I'm trying to push framerate as far as I can.

>>103297990
What are consoles for?

>>103298067
idk, playing games for low initial investment that parents can buy for kids so they dont use a pc for porn?

Is this a useful / decently accurate website for comparing?
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare

>>103298042
If you're in the US, there are some good deals for monitors.
I bought the discounted MSI 1440p QD-OLED (240Hz, don't need more).

>>103298057
The answer is yes to all your questions

>>103297980
> 16 celsius
Okay, I admit this is rather uncomfy. And high air humidity as well I guess. If you don't have to pay your power bills you can have your PC mine bitcoins 24/7.

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Thoughts on this for my first OLED? It's going to be for a 9800x3d and 5080/90 build.

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I need a board ASAP, is this ok for 100 eurobucks?

>>103298018
Sixteen! And not sweet little but Celsius! This is uncomfy af. The minimum acceptable is 19°C with dry air. And I currently live in South Portugal.

>>103298104
It's not bad, it's probably functionally similar to the Tomahawk.

>>103298073
Even that isn't safe. I remember getting a PS3 and noticed it had a built-in web browser. Where there is a will, there is a wank.

are oled monitors actually good now? or is it better to wait 5 more years

>>103298073
It's for
> click "play game" and not have to think about buying a 2k € gpu when they first move the camera ingame
that is

>>103298115
Yeah, and I live in fuckin' Florida where this is approximately two months out of every year where you can go outside and not be hit with at least 80-90 degree weather (often higher) and 80-100% humidity with fuckin' wet bulb warnings all the time.

>>103298115
I feel bad for you. you'll never know how comfy it is to sit next to a radiator when outside is -20 C

>>103298102
I ended up going with a PG32UCDM, yours was second or third place basically just because it doesn't have Dolby Vision. If that's not meaningful to you, then this one should be about as good as monitors get right now, and it's a couple hundred cheaper than the others in its bracket on sale.

>>103298123
>a PS3 and noticed it had a built-in web browser.
Great! I have to check my son's console now. Thank you.

Which aio?
For cpu, mounted on top, set of 3 120 fans in exhaust/push?

Arctic Freezer III 360, non-rgb
Lian Li GA II 360 Performance

>>103298129
You still have to wait® for OLED panels with true RGB subpixel layout, there are other improvements like more monitors supporting DisplayPort 2.1 in the future.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/oled-news-and-rumours-round-up-for-2025

The prices of existing OLED monitors have dropped enough for more people like me to buy into it.
About 2~3 years ago you had to pay $500 for a relatively high-end 27" 1440P IPS monitor with backlight bleeding and shitty contrasts.
You still have to pay around that much, or more, for a high-end 360Hz IPS monitor.

>>103298152
I know it just too well because I lived in Germany for 50 years and I go there every now and then to see my relatives, do business etc. It's terrible and makes be sick, depressive, weary of life.

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why does everyone get black cases instead of white? the whites cases are even cheaper?

I have a black gpu, which will go better?

>>103298163
> Arctic Freezer III 360, non-rgb
Perfect choice!

Can a bad CPU damage a motherboard? I know it's possible the other way around.

>>103298191
> You still have to wait® for OLED panels with true RGB subpixel layout
Until CES 2025?

>>103298154
>>103298102
So I misread and I was referring to the MSI MPG 321URX, which is about $80 more than the model you are looking at.
It's hard to find the difference between these online, but based on reviews the MAG does not receive firmware update support, but the MPG does.

>>103298228
No, the planned production is Q4 '25.
You could be waiting until '26 for those.

>>103298123
I did the same on the fucking DSi web browser

Reposting from last thread
What's the cheapest graphics card that will max out a pcie 1.1x16 bus?

>>103298206
white objects display dust, grime, and smudges more readily. also, getting a decent black pigment is a bit more difficult than white because white is typically just titanium dioxide and a binder, whereas blacks can be more complex. there is also the aesthetic premium.

So looking for a 2k monitor that isn't 27", maybe 22". I'd like HDR that's at least serviceable (so no hdr400), 144hz (or more), if not oled then at least have an OK amount of dimming zones. Don't care about Dolby vision, or speakers, or rgb. Does such a thing exist or is it a unicorn?

>>103298206
Parts are generally cheaper in black so you don't have clashing colors if you have a black case.
And personally I just like darker colors more. Ordered a black North XL for my new build.

Are Asus and MSI AM5 boards serviceable or have they gone to shit? I hear a lot of complaints.

>>103294624
>>103295189
>>103295261
did you get the one with the glass sidepanel or no glass?
are glass sidepanels "louder"?

>Corsair PSU didn't come with enough cables to power GPU
>Noc fans cable lengths are so short they don't connect to anything and need extensions
>Had to order extra cables for both
Annoying as shit desu

>>103298274
They're all pretty similar but ASRock boards generally offer more value for money.
Most people don't even know ASRock is basically ASUS' corporate bitch.
ASUS deliberately sets a premium for their ROG boards and they're fine with more price-conscious buyers getting ASRock instead, as long as it means fewer Gigabyte, MSI, or other boards being sold.

Two idiots fucked up installing their 9800X3D in an MSI X870 Tomahawk motherboard, but nothing has come out of it.

>>103298204
>she lets seasons affect her mental health
no, you don't. winter and autumn are comfiest seasons.

How diminishing are the returns on a motherboard past $100-$150? Are there any concerns for a motherboard besides "you can plug your parts into it"?

where are the 4k 27 monitors

>>103298274
MSI is fine. ASUS is questionable. Basically any mobo you look up you're going to find some bad reviews due to shitty manufacturing or user error. If you see a lot of bad reviews of the exact same issue though, stay the fuck away from that board.

>>103298346
As long as the board has adequate VRM for your current and future CPU(s), it boils down to the number of storage & I/O port, network speed differences (2.5/5/10Gbit), and some differences in trace layout if you're interested in manually tuning the system memory.

>>103298348
Can't attest to this personally but what people say is that 27" isn't big enough to appreciate 4k pixels.

>>103298348
I heard they might be coming in 2025, but basically it's on the way.

>>103298206
Racist here i ordered a black and white set of two cases and valkyrie matching aio

>>103297973
Ali but postage is slow

>>103298261
Likely doesn't exist. 27" is where all the features are.

>>103297916
I have the opposite problem own my own house and the only second story room is a new apartment with no ventilation in the roof predictability in aussie summer i cook up there so getting a whirly bird

>>103297936
It seriously can help as additional heating plus to a radiator obviously, all the heat is thrown out of the case if ariflow is decent, so even at 300w it's noticeably warmer.
My room is 18m2 and it gets to -30C here at night.

Are there any considerations I need to make about a motherboard with expecting it to be ready for a 5000-series? Basically I'm buying the other parts here on black friday and assembling them when I get an RTX 5000

>>103298233
>but based on reviews the MAG does not receive firmware update support, but the MPG does.

Used to be that but MAG models receive firmware updates now

>>103298477
not really
mobo is more important to CPU

>>103298491
Old version MAGs do it through DP, E2 240hz version supports it properly.

>>103298348
2025 actually so next year's blacked friday...

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>$200 X670 motherboard
>No displayport port
What?

what;s the closest to phantom spirit/peerless assassin? ak620? darkrock elite?

>>103298294
I have the case without glass but I don't think that glass is louder as it doesn't tend to resonate with any vibrations of a case. It's just susceptible to breaking while the steel panel is near indestructible. I had acryl and glass panels before with other cases and at some point windows no longer fascinated me and I preferred the best possible function and practicality, easier handling, cheaper price. Opening and closing a side panel just to take a look into the case is so easy with the Silent Base 902 that I never missed the window.

We all agree that that picture which purports to show 8 water-cooled 5090's is just bullshit, right? As in those are definitely 4090's that they are disguising because of the water blocks making it impossible to tell. Not to mention the situation sounds extremely sketchy.

>>103298344
Perhaps in beautiful landscapes but not in the Northern German Lowlands. I'm not a she by the way.

>>103298580
>picture which purports to show 8 water-cooled 5090's
post it

>>103298383
This is correct. And 32" allows more distance to the screen. With my 27" I always feel the need to creep into it.

>>103298580
those are blackwell datacenter chips. they need watercooling because they use next gen hbm which runs way hotter than gddr (what consumers use)

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Considering VRR exists, should I be particularly concerned about the 1% numbers in these charts?

>>103298695
Do you regularly play older games at 1080p/medium with a 4090?

>>103297463
You're doing something wrong if your 9800x3d is running hot with a peerless assassin. I built my new computer last wednesday (9800x3d with a peerless assassin) and ran cinebench on my cpu for 20 minutes and it never got above 65c

>>103298721
IDK why he's benchmarking at 1080p, the Cyberpunk spread doesn't look too different from this and it's 1080p, I don't really watch any of these tech youtubers I come out every five years and try to figure out how to build a new computer. I want to get a 5080 which would perhaps at least come close to 4090 power.
Regardless of what resolution is being benchmarked, I'm still curious how seriously I should weigh the 1% and 0.1% levels.

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>>103296823
What's the best bang for buck mouse? I'm not looking for anything fancy. Something simple and reliable that will get the job done.

>>103298744
>I want to get a 5080
Why

>>103298744
>I'm still curious how seriously I should weigh the 1% and 0.1%
Smaller gaps are better
But unless there's something seriously wrong with a part, in most cases the spread will be pretty similar.

>>103298759
I mean... why not? I'm getting a 4k 240hz monitor and want to try to push it to get to those upper framerates if I can, even if I play some things in 1440p or something.

some people have too much money

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I just changed the colors of my LEDs from red to blue.
That is all.