Request purchase advice>location (country shipping from and shipping to)>budget>open/closed back>sound signature (favorite music)>previous equipment (dac,amp,cans)
Here's the paste from the previous thread, because OP doesn't know how to use the archive:FAQ:>Do I need a—No. You don't "need" headphones or any of the electronics that support them.Recommended closed back headphones:• Beyer DT 770 Pro 80 Ohm (bright V) - $140Honorable mentions:• Takstar Pro 82 (darker V, chinkshit) - $60• Senn HD 569 (dark V) - $100• AKG K361/K371 (neutral V, build quality not great) - $105/$170• Beyer DT 700 Pro X (bright V) - $250• E-MU Teak (bright V) - $450• DCA Stealth (neutral V) - $4000Recommended open back headphones:• Philips Fidelio X2 (bright V) - $160• Senn HD 560S (neutral treble, flat bass) - $150• DT 900 PRO X (bright, flat bass) - $250Honorable mentions:• Superlux HD668B/681 (bright V, chinkshit) - $35• Hifiman HE400se/Sundara (neutral treble, flat bass) - $110+• Senn HD 600/650/6XX (neutral but partly veiled treble, flat bass) - $240+• DCA Expanse (neutral V) - $4000Recommended gaming headsets:• A good headphone paired with a mic• Beyer MMX 300 (bright V, same as DT 770) - $230Honorable mentions:• HyperX Cloud II (bright V) - $80• CM MH751/752 (neutral V) - $75Recommended DAC/amp:• Meizu HiFi / HiFi Pro Adapter - $15/$35 (you probably don't need more than this)Honorable mentions:• Topping DX1 - $100• Topping DX3 Pro+ - $200• SMSL C200 - $200• FiiO K7 - $200• RME ADI-2 (many DSP features) - $1200Measurements and recommended information(tentative):https://pastebin.com/XK9E6PZ9https://pastebin.com/fglt/sqt/fwt/psg/hsg/iemg/twg/pcbg/mkg/dpt/csg/fpg/sdg/wdg/spg/hpg/ptg/ppg/vsg/tpg/flet/aicg/dmp/dhg/aosg/lol/bst/g/>ReviewsZ reviews are worthless
is there better value than max5c out there?
What's the consensus on FT1 Pro?
>>103465917all reviewers I saw said its good and worth the money, one guy said cq issues on his unitgraphs are obviously fineat this point its pretty safe to rec it for anyone wanting open back under 500€
>Ask /hpg/ if I would benefit from a DAC/AMP for a headphone that can already run from mobo.>Get a solid no answer.>Autism.flac, I need it for the knob anyway.>Buy a fiio k7 after long "research".>Its sounds noticeably better.>Might be placebo.>AB test.>Not placebo...Bros... I probably had a really shitty motherboard for audio...
>Fiios FT1 not going to be shipped for 1-2 months
>>103466255this aint the place to get an unbiased answer regarding dacs/amps
>>103466255what mobo you're using?I do rec most people to get dac amp for the convenience of putting windows sounds to 100% and controlling it with physical volume knob
>>103466362MSI mag B550M bazooka
>>103466255There's a lot that can go wrong with motherboard audio, and nobody does serious tests on them very often.>>103466344The general kneejerk answer on g is anti-buying things, anti-having money, and an audiophile is like the foulest confluence of those. Therefore the audiophile answer is automatically wrong even when it's objectively correct.
>>103466255i noticed some motherboard or monitor with audio out have high output impedance which affect the sound (grado turning into a mid-bass cannon)you can try A/B test with a 5$ dongle against your k7
>>103466394>realtek® alc892/ alc897 codecreddit seems to think that sucks so
>>103466432>Apple USB-C dongle nothing measuring above that will sound better. Everything above it is just a engineer pissing match so to speak. It has an amp in it that will drive most headphones to a loud enough volume.Uhm, based?
>>103466448well apple dongle doesnt have a physical volume knob
>>103466279Impatient boy!>>103466394>he has a gaming motherboardYou're dumb!
>>103466394If you mentioned that board specifically most people here would've told you it's not good because using aluminum electrolytic type caps for decoupling always colors sound. ALC1220, 4080, ... have a differential output front channel which is decoupled with 4 op-amps, and that can be good enough for a lot of headphones. Assuming the mfg doesn't drop the ball somehow, which they often do.>>103466683Imagine being so worried what other people think that you pay extra to not have gamer trim on your motherboard.
>>103466448Doesn't perform well if you turn the volume down. It's a great DAC though.
>>103465559all these recs are hilarious. why are you so into ear raping treble >hd 600 >flat basslmao what
Finally got the HD600, it's great. But it is true that they aren't bass cannons. What should I get for a complementary pair of cans for when I want something more slamming?
>>103467002yeah it's very out of date and a lot of the choices are bizarre/bait tier.
>>103467023see >>103465628
Really enjoying my beats solo 3s, I only had to recompile my version of pipewire to include the forbidden non-free bluetooth AAC libraries explicitly disabled in debian because SBC codec sounds like ass and drains battery life.https://tookmund.com/2024/02/aac-and-debian
>>103467023Order the HD660S2 and compare the two. Or get some 50$ IEMs as bass cannons
I'm thinking about getting an audio interface for some shit but it has a built in DAC would that make my current DAC useless if got it or could I still use it over the interfaces built in DAC ?
Sorry, yet another post regarding Fiio and SennheiserI do not like closed-backs, but want something that isn't too boring for rap/hiphop, I at least want some slam in my cans560s or FT1 Pro? Or something else? Was considering the closed FT1 but unsure if they are heavy into noise cancelling which is my only gripe with closed-backs.Budget $200
>>103467469planars are generally associated with slam>Was considering the closed FT1 but unsure if they are heavy into noise cancelling which is my only gripe with closed-backs.what a strange sentence
>>103467506cheap planars are also associated with lasting a month, desu
>>103467023>>103467469use eq
>>103467506>what a strange sentencewhy
>>103467547in what context would "being into noise cancelling" be considered a negative for headphones?
>>103467532EQing hd560s to the point where they have some enjoyable bass is possible?>>103467571I meant that I don't like having a pair of headphones that make me completely oblivious to my surroundings. I like being able to hear things and myself talk whenever I do.
>>103467601whos gonna attack you while you're wearing closed headphones? Niggers?
>>103466279i just bought one yesterday anon, its arriving tomorrow.
>>103467611I'm being attacked right now on 4chan by what I can only assume is a nigger
>>103467618most people dont live in brazil/ghettos so you have to adapt your headphone purchasing inquiries to that crowd
>>103467601>EQing hd560s to the point where they have some enjoyable bass is possible?yes
>>103465559>because OP doesn't know how to use the archiveMore like OP isn't a faggot. That paste is terrible, we got rid of it for a reason.
Any wireless neutral closed back with good sound isolation that doesn’t cost an arm? Preferably passive sound isolated
>>103469012check out hitune ugreen max5c
Should I get a Fiio K11 dac for Hifiman Ananda Stealth? If not whats a better alternative at 100$?
>>103465342
>>103469012>wireless neutral closed back with good sound isolation that doesn’t cost an armPretty much no. But you can always EQ, in which case just get something cheap and with graphs available like the Soundcore Q-whatevers
>>103469275You don't need one. But if you still want one for placebo, then sure that is a good choice at that price.
Are the koss porta pros worth it? Or do I look for something else? Also read somewhere that the beige variant sounds better (?), so any inputs on that?
>>103470167No, they're shit. They are on ears, so they hurt your earsthe cable is not detachable, the lenghts only convenient for mobilethey are horrible to put on becausee of the headband that springs into itself What exactly is the budget range and usecase?
>>103470167They're alright if you want foamy on-ear headhones, but they need EQ. Everything you can get around that price is going to be deeply flawed somehow.
my repaired ANC headphones just got returned to mefinally i can commute in peace
I got a pair of sony wh-1000xm5 I got for free with my phone, I was meaning to sell them but I kinda forgot and honestly can't be arsed to do it, it's been a few months now. Are they worth keeping? For now they're in the sealed box so I'm on the fence if I want to open them or try to sell them as new instead. I doubt I'd use them outside much since I have IEMs for that, so noise cancellation isn't much of a factor. I'm willing to EQ.
>>103469027Are they better than the akg k361bt ?
>>103470593they have good isolation, k361 doesnt
I like niggbass and would like to spend $300 or less. What do? I like the clarity of SPH9500 but there's negative bass.
>>103471263fiio ft1 is probably your best bet, not nigbass territory but at least not bass deficient out of the boxk371 technically has more bass but I'd take the fiio over themalternatives are wireless headphones or harmonicdyne eris but the latter only if you're basically deaf and only care about bass
>>103466683holy fuck start posting with a trip i need to filter you faggot for my own sanity
shidd
>>103471340k thnx
>>103471340Are the $160 ones on aliexpress legit?
>>103472212should be, it's a relatively new release doubt they're getting counterfeited yetbut you can just buy it off hifigo for the same price, they're a legit store or just Amazon for $10 more
>>103465559>• Beyer DT 770 Pro 80 Ohm (bright V) - $140Hey that's me
>>103472118>imma let you finishWhat does it mean? Why talk like this?>one of the best headphone releasesSo only the "release" was good? Why is he not saying that it's one of the best headphones?
>>103467023Fidelio X2s, heavily EQ'd planars, some DIY bullshit like picrel.
>>103472118i don't want these now cause everyone is sucking them off. i will stick with my old headphones everyone hates that i like thanks.
>>103470530ANC is sort of their main selling point and it sounds like you won't be using that, so maybe there's something better suited to your use case
Recommandations for a wired closed back headphone with not bad noise isolation?I have the sennheiser hd-25 and I like their sound and lightness but I have noisy neighbours and I can hear them when there is no sound playing.
>>103472869the sennheiser hd-25 already have pretty good sound isolation, it's one of its strenghtsprobably you need anc, there are headphones that have slightly better noise isolation (sennheiser hd 620s/dt 700 pro x/dt 770 pro w/pleather pads), but that wouldn't make a noticeable improvement, it's a 5dB difference at besthttps://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sennheiser/hd-25#test_423https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sennheiser/hd-620s#test_423
>>103466406Oh yeah, everyone laughs at audiophiles because they have money and not because they spend it on literal snake oil. How did you end up like this, you ridiculous little man?
>>103466683KILL YOURSELF TRANNYYWNBAW
>>103465342Why would I buy headphones when IEMs are so much better while being so much cheaper?
LUIS ROSMANN is a audiophool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJYIhLQJtTs
adx5000
>>103474127>debunking audiophool snake oil and telling audiophools they are retarded means you are an audiophool???
>>103474298????????? REALLY REALLY???? LUOIS IS THAT YOU? REALLY IM A FANN!
>>103474333as opposed to?"LEAVE THE BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS ALONE!!!!"?i don't get it
>>103474400lOis thinks vinyl shit still spends gorjilions on solidstate when solidstate sounds all the same. boho bobobo hooho
>locationUS>budget120>open/closed backclosed>sound signature (favorite music)mostly guitar rock, some bassy electronic>previous equipment ath m50x that brokePriorities are sound isolation (roommates) > audio quality > weight for bed listening, m50 was kind of bulky but had good isolation. Been literally 10+ years since I have bought headphones thanks
>>103465342thoughts on the Arctis Nova Pro (wired)?
The best reviewer seal of approval. Wow. https://youtu.be/cc2pkvfhjYE
>>103474117>go to iemg >desired signature: anime, asmr >bros i don't even know what music sounds like irl >techs aren't real lol
>>103473944lol, insecure much?
i quite like my sennheiser 660s
I just got a Fiio JT1, overall it's nice but I'm having an issue connecting it to my Scarlett interface, the cable that came with the headphone has 3 contact rings on the plug because of the mic but my 6.3 adapter has 2, so the audio is this weird mono, however when I press the microphone button, the audio is fine, is there any way I can somehow disable the microphone in this cable? or maybe just keep the microphone always active?
>>103467420Depends on how shit the respective sources are. Pro audio interfaces are all mediocre headphone drivers, but so are most AIO DACs under $300.
>>103475348OP here, Holy shit just noticed there is a 6.3 adapter in the box that works just fine, I'm stupid, this is the best headphone I've ever had
>>103475226i've been eyeing those for a while. my 598cs are on their last leg, and they're not being manufactured anymore.
>>103474677>z reviews>the best reviewerdammn these chink chills aren't even trying anymore
>>103474677Chang, zeos likes everything. It's a bit. Sending zeos products is like buying bus stop ads. Lots of people see it, but nobody takes it seriously.
>>103475467the point of ads is to show you something not to convince you to buy it
>>103474677you are chinese also it's not even the same headphone you dumb chinkTiananmen Square winnie the pooh free taiwan free hong kong etc
got any noise isolating headphones that are lightweight?
>>1034760143m peltor
>>103465342Moondrop Dawn Pro came in yesterday.They are driving my Shure SRH 440, my ears have been reborn.Now waiting for some sheepskin pads and wool headband cover.
>>103474459isolation in which direction?if you don't want to hear your roommate,anc is advisef
>>103475376Kek
>>103474117You cant put a price on not having to shove dildos in your ears.
>>103474117IEMs smell bad
>>103475502Buy FT1s
>>103465342Thoughts on AKG K702? I constantly see it described as gold standard for neutral, flat at the price point, like it's supposed to be some good old trusty classic. Yet I don't see it in the general
After 12 years of faithful service my Xonar essence one is starting to give the ghost and I'm struggling to find a good replacement.Any help would be appreciated. Preferably a single device which let's me drive a HD800s as well as 2 XLR outputs for my JBL monitors.
>>103480731This general is retarded
>>103480731K612 can be EQ'd to sound the same
>missed my FT1 delivery today
the drama continues.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYpPNCzQCVQ
>>103475226>quitelolget adx5000
>>103482043dummy.
you ppl cant afford a 2k
>>103482632It do sound good but that headband is a meme>>103483160The fuck is a 2k
>>103483475exactly, you cant afford 2k for adx500 and headband is perfecto. you will die
>>103483590Buying a pair of headphones that measure like shit while being late on rent isn't impressive bro
>>103483946they measure godly and you only enjoy pseudo science crap and a newfag without the ability to demo them even.
>>103483993>pseudo science craplike the idea that audiophiles are generally stupid and pay ridiculous amounts of money for headphones that sound the same or worse than $150 ones?
>>103484023literally sound better than any 150 bucks cans objectively even. please stop being newfag
>>103484037godly also buy ears and take your ears to a store and demo them!
lol
lmao
>>103484060>>103484046bitter poorfagadx500000 rentfree
KEK
so christmas is coming up, what's a decent pair for $100(USD is fine but am aussie)? A few recommendations would be good in case I can't get my hands on something specificgiant earmuffs are a must to avoid ear strainI wouldn't mind a "neutral" sound but I'm open to different things if people think that's not a good idea for listening
Buy Audeze
>>103484064Post bank account lol
>>103484116why don't yooou show us yooour bank appointment friendobuy ears>>103484115buy adx5000
>>103484138>no uPoorfag larper detectedWhy do poors always do this?
>>103484149buy ears
I need a gaming headohone preferably closed. Is the beyerdynamic 900 pro x good or sennheiser
>>103484190Buy a house
>>103484254adx5000
>>103484266i bet i own more than you since i can buy 10 pairs of adx5000s
>>103484366Cope
After six years, I just realized that not only are the pads replaceable, but the headband is as well. Absolutely goated. What other consumer-grade headphones are like this? I’d love to try them when my Bose finally breaks.
>>103484104>headphone thread>posts iem shit
>>103484693>What other consumer-grade headphones are like this?most of the ones worth buying.
>>103465342Question for /hpg/, i recommended the DT770 (80ohm) to my younger brother since his current Sennheiser pair are essentially held up with electrical tape and grime and i have some spares (headband+2 pairs of pads) for Beyers. Is there a specific decent combo unit in 50$ range nowdays or it's the standard "buy whatever"?
I had surgery on my ears like a decade ago and can't wear headphones now really, pressure on my ears hurts after about 10 minutes. I just bought the AKG K702 headphones as I heard they're very low clamping pressure. Hope it works for me... In ears are what I usually use but they're more frustrating to put in and take out repeatedly.
>>103484733he got mind broken because someone enjoy godly measured headphones
>>103484947I feel you my man i also have problems with my ears docs don't give a damn about my right ear problems
>>103470221The budget would be around 60 USD.Not a hard limit but I'd prefer if it were in line.Primary usecases would be to listen to music and podcasts, typically while stationary at my desk or couch.Typical music I listen to are pop & indie stuff and maybe instrumentals (Palace, half•alive, Moon Monsoon, Hugo Kant, The Olympians etc).
>>103484947?regular sized over-ear headphones shouldn't touch your ears at all
Reminder that DD sounds like shit in every budget, don't waste your time and get planars.
>>103487007planars are too heavy thoever.
>>103487010Gym
>>103482043You're such a butt hurt dumb boy!You don't even deserve to own those headphones!
>>103484254900 pro x is open
>>103485378check out fiio jt1
>>103487007planars are a meme and sound artificial as fuck, that's why no one use them for audio design, mixing music, etc.
>>103489266I've read some dumb shit in these threads, but this really takes the cake.
>>103489408To be fair the 2k € genelec monitoring headphone system uses DD, not planar
>>103489454You're paying for the system not the headphones. Monitoring is a low fidelity application.
I bought the bathys lmao
>>103489969they seem comfy but how are they for movies n shit if the latency is high
which are the best wireless headphones around $500?
>>103476304Sound shit
>>103490576None of them. Don't pay $500 for plastic shit with batteries lmao. Either go wired or just get cheap wireless like soundcore
Any of you got ft1 pro delivered from AliExpress after ordering on black Friday? My order keeps getting delayed and the store guy says he'll refund me if he can't ship by next week.
DT880 or DT900 or FIIO FT1 PRO if I want a reliable, good-enough sounding open back? open to alternatives.
>>103490938yeah mine arrived, I ordered from BrightAudio store. I'd take the refund if it doesn't ship soon, there's always other sellers. >>103490948out of those, the ft1 pro - just because of planar characteristics plus beyer treble spikes. alternatives would be the he400se or the hd6xx.
>>103485500They don't but the area surrounding the ear is also affected. Behind my right ear there's a large protruding mound of I guess surgical shit, threads, scar tissue, I don't know. I can wear any headphones but it starts to hurt after about 5 minutes and gradually gets worse the longer I wear them.
>>103484947>>1034914451. Headphones with metal headbands that you can bend to adjust the clamp force.2. Headphones without headbands like ksc753. Headphones without pads like sr1a4. IEMs
>>103480731I bought them a year ago, had an extremely good experience overall, i just had to resolder the cables int he left cup and readjust the balance trough eq. If you like a wide soundstage and fiddling with eq setting they are a very good option.
>don't know if I want to splurge on headphones, a 3d printer or a gunplai want all of them now!!!!!!
>>103490964If reliability is a priority then recomending brand new type of chinese headphones is kinda iffy. Not to mention that planars in general are less reliable.
Was browsing niche beyer offerings last night and I discovered this living fossil- DT 150. From the first look it seems like something made in 60s and a little reasearch revealed that thats exactly when it was released. 1960s. Still produced. So my question is..why?
>>103492485If you dont put small metal objects near the driver and close them really carefully the planars should last up to years even
>>103491445Maybe on-ears would work better for you?
>>103491445go to the doctor so they can fix it with more surgery
>>103492513They look dated but even by today's standards they sound decent and provide good isolation, so still good for monitoring.Also 1965 build quality >>> 2024 build quality.
>>103490948in that price range, I'd get the 560s
>>103474117If you want something cheap, IEMsIf you want something closed: IEMsIf you want something open: headphones That's how I look at it at least. Closed headphones suck in general, and sub $200, IEMs will give you much better sound for the price.
>>103493243>Also 1965 build quality >>> 2024 build qualityI agree 100%. Still kinda weird that headphone technology is so stagnant that great product from 60 years ago is still marginaly relevant. Imagine something like that hapening in any other industry. Also look at that weird proprietary cable connector- shit plugs straight into the Hitlers play station.
>>103485378At this price, get IEMs
>>103493807>If you want something open: headphonesSpeakers*Headphones are obsolete
>>103494765>Headphones are obsoleteThey have their uses. There are times where I want open and loud, such that I can't crank my speakers.
>>103493831Neumann U 87 mic is about the same age
does anything similar to this design exist that isn't so fragileI've had to replace them yearly for a couple years and I'm tired of their shit design flaw that breaks after 12mo
PSA:KEEP YOUR VOLUME LOW!NEVER EVER EXCEED 80 dBPLEASE TAKE THIS ADVICE SERIOUSLYBEFORE YOU FIND YOURSELF POINTING A LOADED GUN TO YOUR HEAD TO MAKE THE DEVASTATING SOUND OF TINNITUS FINALLY STOP
>>103494871Please anon don't listen to loud music, pipe your volume down
not an audiophile but recommended a friend get the sony xm4s. am i fucked?
>>103480731>K702just bought them a few days ago, after using DT 880 for 10+ yearsthey are ok, but i wasnt impressed in the slightest - i guess i got used to my old headphones, and expected more from K702the ear cups are very big, so my ears are completely inside the cups - that feels finepretty light, and i dont feel the top strap at all - all the pressure is on the ear padsi like the ability to unplug the wireas to sound - i dont have any data or analysis to present, just my subjective opinionall the tracks that gave me goosebumps with DT880, sound boring using K702i have read the reviews prior to buying, so i was aware of low bass levels, but thats just too little bass for my likingi will keep them for gaming and youtube, but need to look for something else for music
>>103495238 I don't play it that loud. I have speakers in my office at work, so I can't turn them up super high
My dad learned I like collecting headphones and apparently ordered me the Denon AH-D9200 for Christmas for me. I'm going to use them, but I'm wondering how well they stack up compared to my Sennheiser HD6XX. How do they compare?
>>103495484look at mr fancy pants city slicker over here with daddy warbucks buying him expensive headphones.
>>103495227>>103495238LMAOimagine being a pussy and not listening at 120 dB for sublime dynamic range and detail
>>103495484Much more bass extension, big dip in the upper mids, a bit less lower treble and a bit more upper treble.
>>103493846Already have a couple. Plus if I wanted those I'd go to /iemg/
>>103495484HD6XX are more difficult to drive. More soundstage, less bass, less isolation. Arguably obsoleted by the HD560S.
copped a pair of FT1 pro today. Never had open backs before, what do i expect?
>>103490375Latency seem okay to me. It's got some really horrible treble spikes though.
>>103472398me too
wanna buy a replacement headphones as a gift, theyre replacing a soundcore Q30 that just broke>USA>around 100USD>closed>usually watching TV type showsonly connected by bluetooth so no equipment for making the sound better
I like my HD560s but I'm looking for something "different". It's my first hi fi headphones and I'd like to try something that's an alternative to "reference level neutral sound" etc.
>>103495227>>103495238Oh my goodness! You're so cute and silly! I just want to eat you up!>>103495645>T. deaf boyThe only things that you need are hearing aids, sweetie!
>ask retarddit if i should get X or Y>recommends Zmaxwell or mm-100?
>>103495227Spoiler: you don't know how loud 80dB is.Apple dongle drives hd600 to 110dB but that's not how loudness works.
>>103501195*105dB
>>103465342FT1 pro or hd660s2? first open back headphone.
God I fucking hate IEM they sound like a a cockroach is playing music in your ear and feel just as comfortable Give me some closed back I can use for my bus ride to work
>>103501273HD560S. Don't buy expensive DD headphones you didn't audition in person. FT1 Pro is one of those weird chifi planars with 80% of the weight of real ones but basically the same headroom as middheiser. It's not planar in any useful capacity if it can't do a 105dB wall of bass.
>>103501363I suggest you get your shit together and find a better job so you can afford a car
>>103501669not everyone lives in us with shitty public transportation - i live in a big eu capital, and never had a need for a carusing Sennheiser M2 IEBT Momentum when im outside - really comfortable, long battery life and sounds pretty good
>>103500453One is a wireless closed, and one is an open wired. Pick based on that
>>103500051I quite like the zeus elite
>>103500453>"Should I eat cow manure or chicken manure?">"Dude... don't eat manure.">"You fucking retard, answer my question."
>>103501273560S if you hate yourself.
>locationUK>budget£200>open/closedclosed - there's noise from the road I'd like to drown out, but I'd still also like something as neutral and accurate as possible.>sound signatureFoley mixing. Apart from that, I don't listen to music as much as I used to.>previous equipmentSennheiser HD206.
>>103501390>It's not planar in any useful capacity if it can't do a 105dB wall of bass.stfu 560s is much worse. ft1 pro handles eq like a champ, and if go asperg about the THD, it's primarily the 2nd order harmonics that are closest to the fundamental and inaudible, especially in the bass
>>103503576There is literally nothing wrong with the 560s
>>103504545How is this much worse?
>>103505009if you care so much about 100dB+ you should look at the linearity/max excursion
What went wrong?
>>103505324Nothing?Headphone of the year.
>>103495227beyers or sony 7506is have mild tinnitus where my old headphones would peak but i dont hear it usually
Let me guess, you need more?
>>103505324why would someone with a pair of 600 or 6XX get this? not much of an upgrade for the price is it?
>>103503422>order a seafood platter>get given a plate of shit and vomit>guess i'll just eat itgo back
>>103505424>comfort>bass extension>dual/entry mini-XLR 4pin option>2 earpads tunings>clamp is not a torture>washable earpads>looks
>>103505085You literally just said nothing and posted a picture.
>>103506150Basically>bass extension>washable earpadsBecause you can trivially add all the rest to a 560S>$400puts them in competition with Drop + Aeon X
>>103506219you cannot add the same comfort, mini-xlr, or metal headband to the hd560s and the driver has different tweaks that show less THD on ASR
Any recent recommendations for a desktop amp to use with T50RP? I know they are shit, etc, etc. Been considering the JDS EL DAC II+ they have on steep discount but not sure if it has enough juice for planars. Currently using an old emotiva xda-2 dac which has decent output but is too hueg for the desk.
>locationmerica>budgetup to $100>open/closed back closedXM4's broke, what are some good cheapo BT headphones with a 3.5mm jack that I can use as daily drivers and gaming with a wired boom mic?
>>103506553ugreen max5c with jazz preset
>>103506542You mean EL Amp II+, right? Should be fine, I run my modded mk3s off a custom built O2 and even at 1x gain they get plenty loud.
>>1035065421W is all you need for headphones
>>103506590>ugreen max5cHow I hate ODM stuff used by name brands. That is basically the same headset as the "new" Creative Zen Hybrid (Gen 2), right?
>>103506011Except you didn't order the seafood platter. You ordered a plate of shit and vomit, and the chef recommended the seafood platter instead.>>103506542I promise you, you don't need one over $100. Check ASR reviews tab and sort by price low to high
>>103465342I bought some Earfun Air 4 earphones but they sound so muffled, as if it was playing in a cave. Is this normal? Is there some secret setting mode that makes it sound this terrible?
>>103507930Eh, JDS is clearing their old EL II+ stock with $100 discounts and their stuff is known good plus it's got a BEEG KNOB, that $150 should basically get anon set for life
>>103508459Nvm phone was in call mode
>locationUSA>budget$500>open/closed backopen>sound signaturemetal, hip hop, 90s dnb. also for movies and single player games>previous equipmentairpods maxright now it comes down to 2 headphones I'm considering, ft1 pro or aune ar5000
>>103507930you're a fucking retard, actually worse than reddit, holy shit. always shoving your dumbass fucking opinions down people's throats to justify your own shortcomings. it's just sad at this point. im getting both the maxwell and mm100 just because i can. you're all useless shills.
>>103509406>useless shills99% of people just buy airpods. shilling here would be hilariously pointless. headphones in general are extremely niche.
>>103509300AR5000 shits all over FT1 Pro, but both have the no replacement parts problem. Consider Drop + DCA Aeon Open X and an amp.
>>103500453Maxwell
>>103509638>check out amazon reviews for the AR5000>a weeb slaps a loli on his picturelmao i trust this nigga already
>>103510644post it or youre gay
AR5000, FT1 Pro, DROP HE4xx or HE400SE?>>103511225here
>>103511244based pedo zeos
>>103511244baste
>>103509406Lol go ahead, not sure why you think wasting *your* money is supposed to affect me or something. You don't seem very bright anyways>>103511244Babababased
Any way to make bluetooth headphones less loud on iPhone? I can only get my Marshall Major Bluetooth III 50db as minimum and its really fucking annoying
>>103513498ear plugs
Hifiman HE400se$83 for stealth magnet$60 for non-stealth magnetIs it worth the additional 23 bucksWhat's a good cheap dac/amp for it
>>103465342>locationEU>budget100-150€>sound signatureAnything goesI would prefer if they did not require any amplification, but it's not a big deal
>>103515956Topping DX1>>103516151Beyerdynamics DT 770 32 Ohm for closedback, Philips fidelio X2hr if open back.
>>103516561>Topping DX1That's a bit over the budget than what I have in mind, ideally I'm looking for something that isn't more expensive than the headphonesWould a KA13 or Moondrop Dawn Pro work (they're both going for $50 so I'm not sure which is better)
>>103516902Dawn Pro. KA13's output impedance is excessive. All you really need for those is something that can put 2V across 25 ohms, which either can do.
>>103515956Non-stealth version is better. Stealth magnet versions boost upper treble to overly bright levels.
>>103515956JCally JM20. Just as good as the DX1 at a fraction of the cost
>>103517533No balls on either of them.
I broke my Massdrop Koss Porta Pro. Anyone know how generous they are with the lifetime warranty? Should I bother sending it in or should I save the stamp and return shipping fee?
what is the spiritual successor of the HD 558 ?
Have consumer headphones stagnated?
>>103518264they have reversed to the point where 00's in-ears are better than most of the crap you can buy for 100 bucks.
>>10349522780dB(A) is plenty loud enough with EQ based on ISO 226:2023 loudness curve, e.g.:https://github.com/dpapavas/alsaloudness
>>103518261560s is probably the closest? i think the 579 was literally just the 558 exactly in a new casing but i don't know if they make them anymore, you can maybe find one secondhand online. the only worthwhile 500 series sennheiser sells new nowadays are the 599 and 560s depending on whether you want neutral headphones or not. 569 is junk afaik. >>103518264they've mostly stayed the same afaik. according to some the fiio ft1 are literally the only decent consumer closed backs and there's no shortage of decent consumer open backs.
>>103480787I had the Muses MK II of your Xonar and the RME ADI-2 DAC FS was my upgrade from that a few years back.This would fit with single unit, driving the HD800 and 2 XLRs (also used mine with monitors too). Also has sound tuning features too.Main drawback is the price and there are likely more better options now (more likely a separate DAC and headphone amp rather than a single unit) at the price point of the RME.
>>103518264It's 150 year old tech. Fundamental improvements are rare and slow coming.
Do I need a amp for 650's if the volume is ok for me? I have them plugged into my PS5 controller and the volume seems perfectly loud enough for me.
>>103505424Sennheiser split into 2 different companies, Sennheiser sennheiser is making the 490pro becuase they lost the rights to the 600 series to Sonova brands.490 is the new 600 for Sennheiser sennheiser, Sonova is still making the 600's for themselves under the sennheiser-hearing brand (not sennheiser)
>>103518326Midwit take. Movies and music are different workloads.
>>103519113>490 is the new 600 for Sennheiser sennheiser, Sonova is still making the 600's for themselves under the sennheiser-hearing brand (not sennheiser)is there actually any proof that 600's made after sonova acquired sennheiser's consumer division are different in any appreciable way?
>>103518304Had to buy lcd-gx to have anything even remotely competitive with IEMs.
>>103519094If they're loud enough and no crackling or noise, no
>>103519428Well, Sonova now owns the classic audiophile Sennheiser Tullamore factory in Ireland with all the OG tooling and transducer tech. The Pro side owns the Romanian/Chinese factory.But a few cosmetic things have changed...They've changed the paint job from the kitchen countertop texture to the new actual style and the edge design of the yoke is sharper. The head padding changed from 4 nugget-style to the actual curved foam. The OEM of the earpads also changed and there's like a minor difference in the bass SPL and geometry if you had the old model you'd know https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/new-sennheiser-pads-measured.24845/
Why does /hpg/ hate electrostats?
>>103520527The Stax meme and the price tag...
>>103520527They can't get loud enough to do home theater in a can and they're not any better than $25 IEMs for playing anime or sissy hypno ASMR, so that excludes like 90% of the board.
>>103517531in case of the he400se, not really
>>103521162>They can't get loud enough to do home theater in a can???? What are you talking about, they can get extremely loud due to their extremely low THD.
>>103521332nta but that's not how it workstheir thd is only low until it isn't, they reach their excursion limit sooner than most dd headphones
>>103521500This >>103521332 and they always have DF tuning, so the bass starts 10dB under where it needs to be for most males under 80. You're hitting that excursion limit at full range surround sound levels.
>>103492261I don't remember making this post.
Asked this question a couple threads ago, what's the best upgrade for DT700 Pro X?>Electronic, otoge music mostly>Any price>4.4mm if possible>Closed backOne anon recommended me ft1 something but another anon said it's side grade at best.
>>103521500>>103521535>max SPL 110dB before distortionOh I see what you're getting at now, you mean for explosions and shit. 110dB is going to be fine for 99.99% of people. I guess if you are paying full price you'd be part of the 0.001%, but you can easily get estats for hundreds of dollars rather than thousands.
>>103521716New planars can do that for like $150 full kit.
>>103521785Do they have planar noise canceling wireless headphones yet? That's the only way I'll buy planar at this point. I already got estats if I want to be tied down.
>>103521661>One anon recommended me ft1 something but another anon said it's side grade at best.that was probably meyou end up in diminishing returns territory past the 250$ range the dt 700 pro x sits inwhy do you want to "upgrade" so badly? what's wrong with your 700 pro x?
>>103521832It's headband is dying on me after 3 years and I don't think spending money to replace it is a good investment. Balanced audio meme is also getting on me so I'd like to try something else that can make use of it.
>>103521941Anything can make use of it. Just buy a 4.4mm plug and solder it on. Even throwaway earbuds are biwired all the way down to the plug these days. All balanced does is trade 6dB extra volume for double the output impedance. The cable run from the amp to your headphones isn't long enough for differential transmission to matter.
>>103521661>>103521832Actually, Fiio FT1 is even better than 700 Pro X.
>>103521941>Balanced audio meme is also getting on medon't bother
>>103522107Balanced also cancels out any USB noise which is incredibly useful. That being said so does a galvanic isolator. In most cases the balanced option is cheaper.
Do I have a mental illness if my EQ looks like this with HD650?More sound = more better
>>103505324>>103505341Samefag>>103505424>>103506150There is genuinely no reason to buy a 490 pro. It is the exact same drivers as the 560s with a different shell and $300 price increase
>>103523271no you are based, being obsessed with neutrality is tranny behavior
>>103522066How do I read these graphs? Is it closer to the harman target line the better it is?
>>103523372Generally the smoother the better, since it makes it easier to EQ (though you still have to factor in disortion, in which both are quite decent)If you really don't want to EQ, then yeah closer to harman is probably better.
>>103522876Anon, read more carefully. 3.5 is balanced. If switching from balanced to differential balanced solved your noise problems then it's because the amp/DAC itself is better designed. Many "balanced" amps/DACs aren't.
>>103523608Nah I've owned multiple devices that would have noise over 3.5 and none over 4.4 or XLR and all the SE only dacs I've used have had noise issues when not connected via optical. I realize I might just be a ground loop magnet but balanced gear has always just werked for me.
>>103523650Considering $9 Walmart dongles don't have this problem, I think it's safe to say your gear is shit.
>>103465342recently found out that in storage my arya v2's had a battery stuck to one of the magnets...worried to even put power in them. Are they fucked or fine?
>>103523803I think you're just deaf and cant hear it
>>103522876A differential amplifier will cancel out common-mode noise, but a DAC with balanced outputs is usually gonna be pretty good for USB isolation anyway.Amplifying the positive and negative terminals of your headphones individually does fuck all for noise reduction.
>>103524172Yeah amps that take differential input with SE output also don't have issues, but it seems some combo units just take an unbalanced signal from the DAC for the SE amplifier section.
>>103467002Retard
What would someone recommend for someone with a fat head and big ears that wants optimum noise cancelling while playing games?Currently using Beyer DT 770 Pro but i cant repair it anymore
>>103524503Yeah thats...clearly not flat
rate my headphones
>>103523271>not enough preamp gain>boosting infrasonicsYes, this is retarded. And can you even hear 20 kHz?
>>103525665>>boosting infrasonicsIt's a dynamic driver so he'll hear the distortion at least.
>>103523271complete retard lmao
i want to try the stax meme but it's like $500 and 0 resell value>>103525453not him but that's sub bass if you want to be a smartass
>>103525975as i suspected he gets treble pretty close but he's like 20dB into distortion maybe eqAPO works differently idk
>>103526323When people say "flat bass", they mean flat. bass.It's really not that hard to understand.
>>103526511>actually your definition is wrong because i dont understand audiothat's sub bass retard
this is probably comparable to my HD6xx for half the price i need to shill it more
>>103526569>sub bass is not bassYou're actually genuinely retarded
>>103526584it's not by definition
sub bass literally implies that it's not bass if it was "NOT bass" would you say it's bass because it has word bass in it
>>103525519€ 9/10
>tard anon cannot differentiate between etymology and actual definitions>tard anon doesn't know what a misnomer is
>>103523898Ok but why can't review sites measure it either?
>>103526861nta but it's not that they can't, they just don't botheralso it's extremely variable, depending on what the device is connected to
>>103526940You can't hear -83dB retard.
>>103526979it's noise, depending on gain you absolutely can
>>103526940>e1da cosmoswhy is that shit so expensive hnnnng
>>103527072Very high precision equipment isn't cheap.
>>103527115more like it's cheap to make but it has low economy of scale because it's just some ruski in china buying shit off markets
>OMG LUL!!!! ackchyually the HD 600 doesn't have flat bass because it drops off below what is by literal definition considered bass in a range that is close to being inaudible>90% headphones also drop off there and don't perform well in it>'sub-bass heads' and bass heads alike still wouldn't be interested in a headphones with a perfectly flat low end anywayGod damn, so what ham-fisted point is retarded-anon even trying to make? The reason the old OP has lasted so long despite being outdated is because the people who have tried to replace it have largely been stupid, ignorant, and biased, so they end up making something worse and it fails to gain traction.
>>103527308bass is literally defined as E2-E4 you fucking imbecile and SUB bass implies it's BELOW BASS therefore NOT bass you have like 30 iq if you cant grasp this
>>103527379The post you are replying to agrees with the contention that sub bass is below bass by definition.
>>103527061Why would you put 20dB gain on an analog line out when the signal is available as digital? That's fucking stupid.
now that real neutral headphones exist you dont have to buy bassless hd600's
>newfags literally don't know what bass extension and flat bass means>still tries to sound smartLmao
>>103525975>>103525665Yeah I just felt like the line should keep goingDoesn't look as stupid now
why do you need to set pre amp -8 instead of just checking the "prevent clicking" box?
>>103527993It's -8 because of the "prevent clipping" box, it moves it down automaticallyI moved everything down so I can keep it at 0
I need to stop fucking around with thisIs this /hpg/ approved?
>>103528151well you would have to get a headphone measuring rig, then see if the EQ actually makes it neutralotherwise its just noise
>>103528163you are a fucking reta rd
>>103528163I guess I don't care about thatAll I know is, if I turn it off, music sounds like shit, if I turn it on it sounds goodI'm kind of scared of going down an OCD rabbit hole of "perfect", whatever that is
>>103528183the best alternative is just using an EQ made by someone with a measuring rig
>>103528191I tried those, but it sounds "muffled", like I'm listening to music in another roomThat's why I feel like I'm crazy
>>103528210could just be that your previous headphones trained you incorrectlylike just listen to different music
