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Why aren't there any open source alternatives to Discord that can even allow you to host your own server? Does Discord really not have any competition?
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>what is matrix
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>>103526943
Divolt
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>>103526943
this isn't true.
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fake news
its only if you sign up with an underaged date of birth
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Just be over 18, lil jit :skull_negroji:
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>>103527056
I'm over 18 and I was prompted for a video selfie yesterday. I wonder where this selfie is going to or what company is doing the check.
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>>103527107
Proofsies?
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stopped playing wow because of this peace of shit constantly blocking my accounts
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>>103526943
>why isnt there open source xyz?
because a million of you would rather complain and comply than spend a couple weeks of your time fixing a problem
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>>103527107
The screenshot is from the discord previews server
i.e. it isn't actually out yet
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>>103526943
>Discord
ever since all the Reddit mods became the main mods on Discord, the entire startup and future went down the drain.

Reddit mods are the most sheltered people on the planet brewed from lockdown and homeschooling. I wish them and Discord mods a prompt suicide.
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>>103526943
IRC, its like discord but with more features and less bloat.
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>>103526943
There is this magical protocol called Internet Relay Chat, perhaps you have heard of it.
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>>103527323
>>103527339
I thought IRC was dangerous because you're directly connecting to strangers
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>>103526943
Kill yourself
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>>103527349
retard
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Nobody fucking uses IRC
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>>103527349
its only dangerous for those strangers, lol
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>>103526943
I got this too. The moderator DMd me asking for nude pictures to verify my age
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>>103527158
yet
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>>103527323
>more features
where is the image/video post with embed? that's the main feature I care about
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>>103528122
>embed
it's fucking telnet chat. there are lots of fancy bullshit clients like mIRC and hexchat. your complaint implies you're the type of asshole to send emails with attachments instead of links to file servers...
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>>103528122
why do you need embed? just click the link.
oh, you're not interested in it enough to click the link?
then it doesn't interest you.
having shit spoonfed to users is exactly what contributes to the shittification of the internet.
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>>103526943
haha well good thing i have no friends
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>>103527056
and also if you live in eu
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>>103527107
its amazing how blindly people just trust these third party unregulated "identity verification" services that popped up overnight out of nowhere. these are storing things like your id as long as they wish and you have no control over it and no way to know if they are secure
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Isnt this the age verification thing from Texas and some other states?
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>>103528122
Retard
Embed support is the second main reasons why Discord is insecure
The first one is its video player
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>>103528713
it always starts with just something you don't care about but once made it can conveniently be extended elsewhere
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>>103528782
>Due to the success of our age verification system and to ensure consistent support and behavior, all regions will now be required to submit facial identity videos as part of the age verification process.
>Criteria include showing two pieces of government-issued picture ID and that your face be at least 25% glazed by one of our administration staff.
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my gf uses discord and isnt technical enough to use irc. what do?
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Is revolt chat any good?
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>>103526943
What if you don't do the ID check? Is it optional? Does it just stop you from seeing NSFW channels?
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>>103528898
Pretty sure Discord has no id verification. This selfie verification is only for users that were banned for being under 13 so they can appeal their ban either because they're 13 now or they were just joking that they were younger and someone reported them. As far as i know you only need your account to be set as 18+ to view nsfw marked channels. Usually Discord only wants your phone number and only when they feel like you're suspicious, making many accounts etc.
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>>103526943
There's mattermost or something that niggas from /o/ use
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I won't even give discord my phone number so some servers that have that extra security layer won't let me in them. Discord can fuck itself.
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Rocketchat.
You can self host instances and while it's not FOSS and what not, you at least can give yourself control and it's reasonably functional.
It's a slack clone not a discord clone though.
I need to try hosting teamspeak since it's basically the only one I haven't tried yet.
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>>103528122
Lmao @ the ebussies in the replies
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>>103526943
>Why aren't there any open source alternatives
There are but you will have to run ... wait for it ... more than one daemon! oh no, anyway.

- Text : IRCD + TheLounge or Convos for a web shart front end. IRC daemons and clients use almost no memory or CPU and will not get in the way of games.

- Voice and Text: Murmur or the light weigh alt uMurmur which uses Opus for audio. Mumble is also very lightweight on memory and CPU and is designed to run with games.

- Jitsi if you want to see peoples ugly mugs.

I know this is just a troll + debate thread and there are only phonies here, but you asked. This answer is just for posterity sake and for the archives.
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>>103527013
Convoluted. Overpromised and underdelivered. Terribly optimized. Not much better from a privacy perspective than Discord. Should I go on?
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>>103527349
only the server sees IPs, just like discord
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>>103526943
There will be custom clients that circumvent this thing, Canary might do something about it for example.
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>>103529753
difference being discord is not just a single admin. Its hundreds of employees, law enforcement, and little green men (and women), and AI and silent voice transcription running in the background listening to you cum to lolis.
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>>103529720
yeah maybe you should blog on, borelord
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>>103529777
certainly it's more centralized than IRC, it is more dangerous to use than a handful of different IRC servers.
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>>103529777
also I dislike how Discord lies about "servers", what Discord calls a server is really just a channel on their one gigaserver.
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>>103529806
Exactly. So far little green men have centralized:

- DNS in Cloudflare

- Almost half of the internet traffic in Cloudflare

- Private chats in Signal, WhatsApp and Discord.

It won't be long until anything they can not see will be sanctioned into oblivion. Tik Tark is being flushed as we speak. Not the first, not the last.
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>>103529812
Yus. Basic psychological warfare. Make people think they own one or more of those mystical "servers". Feeling of control and empowerment when it's just a sub-channel they have Op.
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>>103529833
bit of a doomer mentality, you forget that you deserve what you tolerate. "beaten wife dindu nuffin" is bullshit, being a victim implies culpability and immoral conduct.
that is why "victimhood as social hierarchy points" is totally false, you can't simp for victims and not support that hierarchy at the same time.
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>>103527323
>its like discord but with more features and less bloat.
and only 5 users worldwide
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>>103529843
even mastadon gets this wrong btw., by allowing federation willy-nilly and then basing the network graph on defederation.
provides a fake positive network where you're left with instances that avoid being detected as bad, and good instances don't join because they see the absolute state.
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>>103527013
oh you mean the protocol absolutely assraped by interpol? might as well use discord at that point
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>>103526943
I actually watched this video and they only made it ban-appeals when they falsely flag you as being underage. Its not going to happen unless you write it in a message (even as a joke) and someone reports it.
>>103527013
>>103527323
Both Matrix and IRC are echo chambers for kissless virgins, with Matrix being an echo chamber for <30yo schizos and IRC being one for 30+ wizards
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>>103527434
>Verify you're underage
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>>103528713
Its being pushed everywhere now. Liberals are pushing for it because it means they can get social media tech companies to censor stuff they dont like. Conservatives are pushing it cause it means they can ban kids from internet.

Both sides are celebrating it.
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>>103528122
>>103529479
Don't some clients auto-embed images (and probably videos) when linked anyways? I think Mibbit does that, not sure.
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>>103528842
Create a client that's user-friendly enough for your girlfriend to use. The one advantage Discord legitimately has over IRC is convenience.
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>>103526943
@everyone
>No Text To Speech
Isn't this guy a chud???
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>>103530546
>@everyone
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>>103528122
to one person? dcc
to multiple people? upload to litterbox,etc and link

you should have asked about a problem with a less simple solution, like how are you supposed to get messages from when you didn't have a client connected
bouncers exist, but they can suffer disconnects too, or be absent during a netsplit
irc protocol isn't perfect, but you're asking about things that were solved way before you used the internet for the first time
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Imagine being so pathetic and antisocial that you have to make shit up like this.
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>>103528842
You don't need to be technical to use IRC. There are clients out there with image embedding etc and good DCC interfaces for filesharing etc
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>>103526943
good thing I don't use that underage hellhole
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>>103531769
>underage hellhole
Discord is a loli succubus?
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>>103526943
IRC and Mumble.
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>>103526943
Is this what TeamSpeak needs for a comeback?
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>>103529753
that depends on what server you're using. most of them just allow you to /whois whoever you want which is ass
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>>103530679
if you run your own IRC server for your buddies, i don't see why you couldn't run some file hosting service too.
>like how are you supposed to get messages from when you didn't have a client connected
bouncers exist, but they can suffer disconnects too, or be absent during a netsplit
shit like this is why i don't like IRC
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>>103526943
Just show your ID bruh. What are you trying to hide?? :skull:
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>>103528122
discords "embeds" arent actually embeds, but just links rendered with a preview one the client lmao
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>>103527056
>Giving discord mods a picture of your child.
We’re going to reach grooming levels never seen before.
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>>103527385
I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me.
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>>103527323
it's discord for boomers
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>>103529777
>Its hundreds of employees, law enforcement, and little green men [...] listening to you cum to lolis.
Jokes on them, that's the goal. Mr. James T. Shield, I'm tributing this next session to you.
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>irc server
>it’s an actual server
>discord server
>it’s just a channel
>zoomers barely even know what a filesystem is much less the difference
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>>103532034
>bouncers exist, but they can suffer disconnects too, or be absent during a netsplit
could be solved by in-server bouncer + command to print history



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