How to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (Measurements, Targets, Equalizer, etc.):https://rentry.org/IEM-EQ-Guide>/iemg/ Proto-Blog/Wikihttps://rentry.org/iemgazette>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Truthear Gate (Neutral) - $20• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Warm Neutral) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (neutral) - $100>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (warm) - $5• Faaeal Iris 2.0 (warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCALLY JM20 - $24• Fosi Audio DS2 2024 (CS43131) - $45• Qudelix 5K - $110• Tanchjim Luna - $130>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• HiBy M300 - $200• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200>AVOID USING:• Apple dongle, EU Sony PMPPrevious Thread: >>103507382
First for ze BNUY
EQ = MEME
Daily reminder that all the techs are stored inside 2$ Blu vido
Buy gato thx
breadly thanks to eqzo for blessing us with his immaculate eq guide
>>103538375Why did you eq your pos...
>>103538380whyzo, it's mandatory
Is there a way to reduce the noise from my iems? There is audible crackle from left channel whenever I watch something on yt
>>103538408Enjoy your reduced soundstage.
Sissygot xixtas... we are so baxk!!
>>103538424It's already 0 on everything that isn't speakers, can't reduce any further.
>>103538548My $20 pos has more than enough soundstage
Open back headphones for analytical listening and wide soundstage.IEMs for funky sound signatures and bass.It's really that simple, anything else is a retarded.
>>103538640Bass is car audio
>>103538640nigbass isn't natural, deafzo
Is Moondrop in a death spiral? It looks like the QC issues are finally catching up to them.Who is the go to brand&models for a balanced sound signature?
>>103538665Tanchjim for pinnacle of sound and build quality
>>103538665There are no glaring QC issues with their IEMs. It's mostly people trying to shit on them for collabing with Crinacle trying to drag the Dusk into the ground.Their TWS are a different story, but when you are only spending 15$ on a pair of Space Travels what can you really expect...
>>103538665Kiwi Ears. Their KE4 is basically a 2024 Dusk for half the price.
>>103538640>meme top
>>103538640>headpos>soundstage>analytical listeningheadposdumbposts.jpg
>>103538665always been tanchjim, retarded question ngl
>>103538698Have you ever owned at least one coomdrop pos that wasn't a chu?
>>103538755I have the OG Starfield, the B2 Dusk, and the Variations.
>>103538761Please show us the chipping paint
>>103538767The only one out of those that's able to chip is the Starfield and that's only an issue if you act like a monkey and throw your IEMs around.Put them in a case when you are doing using them and don't just drop them onto a hard surface and it's a nonissue.
>>103538780anon, you've been out of the game for a while haven't you...
>>103538780You can literally baby them and they will still begin to disintegrate in front of your very eyes
>>103538640Atrocious headpost as usual.
Why do we have 2 concurrent threads
>>103538917Retardzo made late thread
>>103538917Because you're posting in the early thread, which incentivizes bakers to make threads too early. Let it die and use the real thread.
>>103539122We all agreed to wait till 315 before moving to this thread.
>>103539243Still not supporting a thread that recommends avoiding the apple dongle.
>>103539267More of a reason to avoid the other thread
>>103538063I've been using the following for over a year now>truthear zero og that I got on saleclogged, removed stock filters and shoved moondorp star field filters into the hole and just a metal mesh >hexaJust werkz
>>103539536Why did you buy that pos...
>>103539536>hexaYou either love it or hate it
BTR17 still going strongit handles multi-device and calls very nicely
There's this new really cool software which creates a personalized target target curve and eq profile for you based on your headphones and ratings in response to various adjustments in real time: https://www.peqdb.com/
If I EQ an IEM to a curve of another IEM precisely does it sound identical to the other IEM?
>>103540419if they're both 1DD pos, yes
>>103540419No, they'll have a different insertion depth and seal quality in reality. And that's if you measured both yourself, otherwise there's also unit variation.
>>103540379did you make this?
Get in here: >>103538322
>>103540460this thread has a cute girl in the OPI'll stay here
>>103540379mediocre at bestneat idea but very flawed execution>>103540419read the eq guide
>>103540445No, why? I am trying to figure out who made it too.
>>103540419You can't eq the techs, so no.
>>103540484What is the flaw in the execution?
>>103540503But isn't sound just waves going through the air and that's what the EQ changes?Then if the waves are the same shouldn't it be the same?
>>103540529You can't EQ the price tag and the faceplate(95% of what audiophiles hear).
>>103540529https://www.peqdb.com/ This software literally finds the optimal eq for any listener for nearly any headphone. it's insane
>>103540529read the eq guide if you're actually curious, or go on with the bait
>>103540489it needs alot of work
>>103540529here's your tech-o-meter (price in USD) bro
>>103540529>isn't sound just waves going through the airtrue, but not all drivers can reproduce the exact same wave pattern, a good well engineered transducer can faithfully represent the original analogue signal without any phase errors or distortions. You can make a good driver sound bad with eq, but can't make bad driver sound good
>>103540508non-exhaustive list>assumes the listener can differentiate the changes, has good auditory memory, and has immobile preference>random songs with varying spectral distribution>need for model to be in autoeq (assuming it starts off with a variant of harman, which it probably does)>arbitrary rating scale with no anchor and is "blind">black box procedure>no precise filters possibleit's a decent start, but suffers from being inefficient, imprecise, and frankly too much for too little
>>103540631>phase errorseq>distortionsso low it doesn't matternoise floor will dominate 99.9% of the time
>>103540655thisit can be massively improved if it focused on specific regions in order (bass, then mids, then treble)had more variety in music and had a binary rating of ether better or worse
>>103540529Untrained listeners listen to the same IEM twice and hear two different things. And you're asking about two different IEMs. If you can EQ you can get a better result than either of those IEMs provide so what's even the point of doing that.
>>103540682eq introduces distortion by default
>that retard that disabled the preamp again
>>103540727not nearly enough for it to be audiblewe are not dealing with speakers or headphones, any half competent iem will have stupidly low distortion
>>103540727>boosting all frequenciesNice!>boosting some frequencies*angry pedophile noises*
>>103540712You listen to the same iem twice and hear nothing, deafzo
>>103540741Doesn't have anything to do with rated distortion metrics. Majority of people cant do eq. Well at least adequately and often end up making their pos sound worse than it would without eq.
>>103540786I hear how IEMs sound without even listening to them, u jelly?
>>103540814meh, i think most people will generally see an improvement, just not anywhere close to what is actually possibledoesn't take a doctorate to use a treble shelf or cut out (or add) some bloat
>>103540833Adjusting octave tilt won't necessarily do any harm. But trust me I've been there and a not retarded EQ process is quite daintiful. Its a skill that requires picking up a book and practice to eventually hone the skill. Most users fail at step 0.
>>103540815no id rather die than be a stinkjeet
>>103540953You'll die a stinkjeet. Tragic.
>>103540997kek
straight from the horse's mouthDeuce, true to its name
>>103541203an evil retard, but an honest one
>>103540997keep projecting shartur
>>103541203I don’t watch the guy or buy his shit but I respect that honesty
>>103541396he may be a meme jewtuber but he does keep it real
>>103538640>Open back headphones for analytical listening and wide soundstage.You gotta go back
Is bone conductivity a meme? In a previous thread, some anon praised Kinera's pos featuring it and got me interested.
>>103542188mostly a meme
>>103542188I want to conduct their bones on my face iykwim
>>103542188everything is a memehaven't you figured that out yet?
>>103542985Y'know whats not a meme?Hitting play and enjoying music.
as expected, peqdb was worked on by shartur which explains the poor quality software and bad procedure lol
What is the price point of greatly diminishing returns?
>>103544540$5 with EDC Pro
>>103544540$2 blu vido
>>103544540Jeets and neets will seethe over this but I would say diminishing returns start to hit at around $400. You are getting premium IEMs with good accessories and great tuning + techs. Beyond this starts to get into audiofoolery
>>103545742I should reiterate, diminishing returns start at $20. Next decent bracket is $150-200. Things beyond $400, the returns fall off a cliff.
>>103544540Diminishing returns kicks in at precisely the most you can afford, as you can tell by the previous responses.
>>103544540$0-$20 - diminishing returns.$20+ - negative returns
>>103544540JaysAudio got it right, ~$100 is the sweet spot, although it seems to get lower every year with technological advances we keep gettingthe more expensive pos the less value, we get only slight improvements every $100, kilobucks are even more of a meme, and all of this considering we get any improvements at allon the other hand cheaper pos, especially under $50, start to get significantly less technical, although the tonality can still be very good
Reminder that there's no minimum phase driver in the real life. No such thing exists. It's just a theoretical model that's not obtainable as long as the laws of physics apply. Getting "close enough" to the minimum phase is subjective and in fact it's never really close enough. Therefore intangible phenomena such as FR-unrelated technical performance will apply to IEMs and will remain unexplained unless, well, we learn to explain it.
>>103547346>measure a 1DD IEM>group delay is flatWTF you told me minimum phase isn't real.
>ywn having bocchi shivering "dddd-dame" for low battery warning sound
>>103547581That looks super fucking gay. If I saw a dude wearing THAT on the train I would an hero myself on the tracks.
>>103547581goycchi the slop, just like the actual show
>>103547581>13mm DDOn a tangent, some anon said those 13mm DD on the upcoming moonslop are like these, low quality trash. Can anyone elaborate on the DD's size and quality in general? I always thought bigger the better.
>>103547821bigger DD = bigger surface = easier to deform during movement, very high quality coating is necessary to preserve microdetails in such driver
>>103547581FiiO should let me load custom voice packs onto my posthen I can have ryou tell me about incoming calls
>>103548152That'd be genius, why hasn't anyone done this yet
>>103548180small indie company pls undasten
>>103547952So, assuming you plate those 13mm with DLC or beryllium, counteracting the drawbacks. What are the benefits of big drivers?On the flipside, what are the benefits of these 6mm drivers? Drawbacks?
>>103549088>What are the benefits of big drivers?less excursion
>>103542216What does it do, exactly? Just vibrates in your ear to compliment low frequencies?>>103542985Yeah, but there are fun(ny) and unfun(ny) memes. Which category does BC belong to?
Demoed these to see what the hype is about.>Thieaudio Monarch MK2Sounds just like the squigs. JM-1 type of timbre/tonality, with a nice pinna gain to bring life to female vocals. Better upper-mids and treble than Mega5EST and Dusk. For weebs who want a full-bodied low end and noteweight, but also exciting female vocals. 9.5/10.>Letshuoer Cadenza 4I see anons shilling this so I wanted to see what the hype is about. The Cadenza’s treble has that “sharpening filter” like some summit-fi sets, which causes mild sibilance. If you can tolerate the “shout” it probably sounds highly resolving and detailed. Thus I think the Cadenza’s upper-mids are slightly more resolving than the Supermix 4’s. But its low-end is really weak with no slam/physicality. It sounds really lean, probably more than strict Harman sets like the Nova. Imo the Hype 4 and Tea Pro are better sets (though very minor) over the Cadenza. They can do the same “resolving” treble like the C4, without sacrificing its low-end. 6/10.
These are some HUGE pos to give away...
>>103550916Where do I sign up for my Hype 10
>>103550933good luck winning a steaming pile of turdhttps://hangout.audio/pages/giveaway
>>103550948This is illegal in the civilized world by the way.
>>103550964which countries exactly?no purchase is required to participate
>>103550964Malaysia is civilized wdym
>>103547581Reminder this is what the last bocchi pos sounded like
>>103551051>fr is based on bocchi's own hrtf
>>103547581My wired IEMs will never have low battery.>>103551051Doesn't look too bad for a rock.
>>103551051looks like a kz pos
>>103552360it has soul unlike kz
>>103538413Anyone???
>>103554038swap sides on the cabledoes the crackle move to the other side? either a fucked cable or a fucked DACdoes the crackle stay with the same IEM? probably a fucked pos
>>103554269wdym swap sides?As in right pos to left or invert polarity pins?
Assembling the Asano lego figure turned out to be harder than eq...
>>103554671I blame the shit print quality
>>103554589put the left pos on the R cableand the right pos on the L cable
>>103555077I think its the dac on my phone with sensitive IEMs the noise floor reveals itself.
editor heretried what i could, hope you enjoyhttps://cryptpad.fr/form/#/2/form/view/gsjpnwniuQhOrFlpRVW-qB3XOD4udq0EfQi7Cf0Ct9U/
Look at this womanlet.
Post gear and a few artists you enjoy, I see a lot of weeb shit in these threads>gear Monarch Mk3 + Topping DX3pro>musicLinkin park, Harold Budd, Death, Primitive man, Solange, Kinkajous, Bones, Deafheaven, LifeDont forget the point of these eardildos is to enjoy MUSIC
>>103558635>gearVari, XBA-N3, Tanch Origin + Topping DX1>musicPorter Robinson / Virtual Self, STARSET, ReoNa
>>103558635>surfans f20 + rockbox>blue vido + thicc foam + eq Sounds good with literally everything but I'll admit that linkin park hits harder at 30 than at 13
>>103557813Can you put Shiroi's ears on Asano?
>>103557813Shiroi is just wearing heels
>>103538063I bought the JA11 dongle a few weeks ago and posted a quick review here, just wanted to add some additional things I noticed. After continuously using the dongle for more than 10 minutes at a time it seems to start stuttering, I only used it with EQ enabled so perhaps it doesn't happen with EQ disabled I just wouldn't know. Taking the dongle out and plugging it back in fixes the issue, but it is quite annoying. I'm not sure if this is a common issue or specific to my device, however I did check the legitimacy online with the QR code it came with so at least I can say that it's a legit dongle causing these issues. I also know that it's an issue with the dongle because my JM30 dongle doesn't have these issues.If you can't use software EQ for whatever reason and don't mind this too much it still seems like a good product otherwise, though I personally won't buy another one when this one breaks.
>>103560162F**o'd
>>103560195You'd think that jcally would be a chinkier store, given the smaller size and cheaper products. But my fiio m5's battery has also expanded, breaking the back of the device off, after like 4 years of use, while a friend's shanling m0 still works perfectly fine. I don't think I'll be buying fiio again in the future.
>>103560040It's a painful procedure.
>>103561311for you?
>>103558635>desktopFiiO K7 + Yanyin Canon w/ all switches engaged and Xelastecs>travel/low activity afkNWA55 + Ikko OH10 w/ Xelastecs>gym/high activity afkXperia 1 II + Galaxy Buds ProArtists: MCR, PtV, PTP, Loathe, but weebshit too, both anison and doujin, e.g. DJ Noriken, XIO, JAKAZiD, & soundcloudcore, ericdoa, dltzk, juno
>>103557702might as well bump with a reminder to check this out
>>103558635>gearKiwi Ears Cadenza + Kiwi Ears Allegro>tunezBMTH, The Gazette, Linkin Park, Rin Toshite Sigure, Deftonez, Underøthe, eastern youth, amazarashi, Sayuri, Pendulum, Draw the Emotional, Siinamota, Maximum the Hormone, Sokoninaru, Memai Siren, toe, Soutaiseiriron, White Lies, People in the Box, österreich.
>>103559356>>103560003>>103561908>>103564389Based music enjoyers
>>103558635>gearDunu Falcon Ultra + iBasso DC03 Pro>musicprog and extreme metal in general
>>103558635>gearCayin N3 Ultra -> Mangird Tea Pro/64 Audio>musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljr2wMSBHqU
>>103563774>she bought f**o
>>103565532xhe is about to get f**o'd...
>>103558635>desktopLuna + SM4>gymmy phone + Liberty 3 Pro>musicToo many OSTs/artists/genres to list. Basically most things betweenhttps://youtu.be/CnByzXMhiYQhttps://youtu.be/3e8S9wIuQIo https://youtu.be/8BQObDjqcG8 https://youtu.be/9nqvP1Vr3iQ https://youtu.be/5Pg-M-lBEdMhttps://youtu.be/GM2ZyJu3_ishttps://youtu.be/6epzmRZk6UUhttps://youtu.be/gcB3HC9eV0ohttps://youtu.be/H6i8aFbG1rs
>>103558635>gearXBA N3, IE200, Make4 + Plenue D, Plenue R>musictons of synthwave, various metal, HC>103564716based Psychotic Waltz enjoyer
>>103566805HC?
>>103566805Hardcore, bands like Snapcase, Poison the Well etc.
>>103567250Holy moly, I am retarded today
>>103567397what a silly goose
Decided to check the local prices of some iems out of curiosity>Gate and Chu 2 $70>Hexa $340>Kara $610>Variations $3054To be fair, only Gato sold a single unit, but it's crazy to think that someone in this world paid $70 for a cum stained pos.
>>103569888South America?
>>103569941Yeah
>>103569888>Brazilwell that is to be expected considering how far SA is from manchuria
>>103570003It's actually Argentina. Most people here are too scared to buy anything directly from other countries.
It's Christmas so about time to replace my shitty ass Arias that stopped working in one ear couple years ago.What IEM do I buy that won't shit the brick on me under normal use (I'm very gentle with my stuff) that also sound good if I listen mostly to shit like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk-geMg8TycPreferably under 100 dollars (softcap)Please and thank you. Also Merry Christmas.
>>103570141many options: tanchjim bunny, kbear kb02, epz q1 pro, tinhifi c2 2025, kefine klean, aoshida e20, etc.choose by what looks cool or is convenient to order if you want to buy from amazon
>>103551051adequate for satisfying fans of that shitty show, their bar in general has always been low
>>103558635>gearChu 2>musickors k, Noriken, Shimamura, Genki, 3T1A, Kenta v.ez., Massive New Krew, Minamotoya, P*Light, REDALiCE, FALCHiON etc.
>>103558635Fox IEM + es9280cEverything electronichttps://youtu.be/XLO9Cq--twchttps://youtu.be/ZXlgShyaHs4https://youtu.be/1tIN3ncWMLMhttps://youtu.be/bu19Wmx0pwkhttps://youtu.be/3k37t6TgLeIhttps://youtu.be/9KDT3jlnSaEhttps://youtu.be/9KhEHIyxHZEhttps://youtu.be/rx7_rMsESdEhttps://youtu.be/3FeDAv50fpwhttps://youtu.be/3W8dFmDTu0shttps://youtu.be/QT0zAZNTx5Y
how do you avoid earwax buildup while wearing iems daily I have trouble hearing now
>>103572980Peroxide.
>>103572980>poured peroxide inside and scrubbed ear canals with cotton swabs once in 2022>haven't had earwax buildup since
>>103573550>cotton swabsyou already have the earwax built up permanently and your brain just got used to it
My pos always picks up static from youtube asmr, what other pos do i get?
>>103574092>asmr
>>103557813>shiroi block figure is sold out everywhereit's over shiroi bros...
>>103574409you can get the acrylic cope standor some cope keychains
>>103574051Nope, I even bought some chink probe with a camera to check. Cotton swabs are somewhat harmful if used alone without peroxide, which melts earwax and makes it easy to remove.
>>103574409Wait for the new one that's coming out with the Pure
>>103574771but pure is gonna be a Hexa replacement, not a Nova replacement
BT buds SUCK why the fuck do they put a mic on this shit all it does is cause feedback loops AAAAAAGGGGHHHH STOP FUCKING SCREECHING FUCK YOU SAMSUNG
>>103575894wtf r u talking about schizo. the mic is active for calls. if you have some weird noises in your environment, maybe the ANC is bugging out, in which case you can easily turn it off. or whatever you're hearing is simply from defective buds
>>103575894i had a buds fe that went nuts on the left mic in a few days, turns out i can't use anc or ambient mode or it will have a constant wind noise on the leftgreat qc gooksung
>>103574771They're making another lego set? Moondropped blocks when?
>>103576834
>>103571417thanks brah
>>103577248is flac worth it
>>103577467if your audio device can play it and you hear a difference yeah
>>103577467320 kbps mp3 is enough. Get flacebo if you have the disk space.
>>103577556Im getting a 31gb mp3 player that supports flac and comes with 64gb sd card
>>103577596it’s 32gb not 31
>>103577596just get FLAC. you'll never have to worry about audio format again once you have a library of FLAC
>>103577610how much songs can u hold
you're replying to a troll who has been making this post for weeks
>>103577620idk, I have a huge storage array I put all my media on including movies tv shows and anime. music is a drop in the bucket in comparison to thatmy current music library, which is a mix of mp3s and flac, is about 80gb
>>103577650i must be fucking new because i dont see what exactly this troll accomplishes
>>103577694why would someone just go and tell lies on the internet?beats me man, some people are bored morons
>>103576834I was just making shit up, but they will release another one for sure
>>103549740Does the Hype 4 need a DAC ? Mine just arrived and they sound terrible off of my Pixel 4a. Detail retrieval and soundstage is almost non-existent. The bass exists but nothing to write home about. I've heard that a colored DAC like Cayin RU6 is better than a Qudelix 5k.
>>103578305You are already using a DAC. Which one are you using?
Everything needs a dac
>he doesn't have a live band perform in another room and just listen to the raw analog signal coming from the studio microphones
>>103578305>pixil 4God that is one dinosaur of a phone,I can only imagine how compressed everything must sound on it lol.Just get a luna or allegro and call it a day dont overspend since iems are easy to drive.
>>103578305pixel 4a 3.5mm is probably far from audiophile-grade. so yeah, there are many better dac+amps to use. no, do not listen to whatever retardation you picked up about using a shitty R2R DAC. there are options listed in OP and shopping rentry. hype4 are highly sensitive (easy to drive), thus don't require any fancy dac+amp. a simple dongle has more than powerful enough to get them very loud. as an aside, i'm in the minority of people who don't like hype4. pretty much full-range i have gripes with the sound especially at the asking price. imo Tea Pro clears easily.
>>103578348Thats not very portable though
>>103578305Jcally JM20
>>103578348fuck off avatarfag troon
>>103579119no
Thoughts on JM28? Is it much better than JM20?
https://youtu.be/NVyivbI2gvk?si=NcQj-nvvF-S46V-ZIt's up
>>103579131jcally is a shit """brand""" (some chinks slapping together OEM parts)
>>103579296So why is it in the op?
>>103579330its for those who literally cant afford anything over $20 and still want something that isnt aplel donglesave up some more and get the fozi
editor hereend of year iemg survey bullshit, check it outhttps://cryptpad.fr/form/#/2/form/view/gsjpnwniuQhOrFlpRVW-qB3XOD4udq0EfQi7Cf0Ct9U/
>>103579203I'm not watching a 35 minute Sennheiser ad
>crypto mining data harvesting IP logging "survey"Nice try.
>>103579782you got me, i work for big harmen
>>103579348I thought it was a good value product. Ok
>>103579861don't get confused. it's fine, and on-paper far better than a bunch of random shit from the past decades of audio and no-name generic amazon dongles (cx31993 / alc dacs). that also doesn't mean it's endgame or from a necessarily reputable company.
>>103579203He should stick to reviewing burgers.
>average headposmy sides
>>103584462holy tasteful techs
im a real nigga now
>>103586519>not the KA17>not the Nova>no lego>no acrylic stand
>>103586577Just a real ass 人間 doing real ass 人間 things.
>>103586519Should have gotten luna (waifu edition).
>>103587081>wanting Asano-slop
>>103586519wtf is this mech pos actually good???
>>103587247Yes. The bass isn't too overpowering. Tons of clarity in the highs too.
>>103587247it's fine, on the bright side of things
>>103587359I need pos to be bright for my weeb shit
