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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards. Issues still reported & latest BIOS doesn't protect new CPUs.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, 5060Ti 16GB, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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I need trillions of nvidia gpus
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Say something nice about the 7900 XTX
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>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/
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>>106369874
Worlds First Chiplet GPU
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Bros, I need an external case for an NVMe drive so I can take it with me.
Does anyone know which cases are good or have a recommendation?
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Do you prefer aio or air coolers and why?
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small form factor builds are mental illness

know the signs:
- susceptibility to youtuber shilling
- hotbox pc normalised 'muh 10L build'
- unjustifiably expensive components
- limited expansion possibilities compared to cheaper builds
- cramped motherboards with a single pci slot
- reduced to watercooling aio due to heat
- restricted choices of hardware compared to cheaper builds
- paying more for a case than a cpu
- reducing computers to expensive gaming consoles
- this is /g/ not /v/, we have standards

friends don't let friends build sff
it's a curable form of mental retardation

screenshot and share for awareness
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>>106370001
in my cunt cheap 360 AIOs are easier to find than those twin towers air coolers
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Need a case with at least three 3"5. Any suggestions?
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>>106370001
I'd go aio for better perf and less fan ramping constantly and no giant slab of steel that hang and block your entire mobo
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>>106370001
Cheap aio's cost about the same but will massively outperform decent/good air coolers.
Also means no massive chunk of metal in the middle of your motherboard.
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>>106369970
If they have the realtek usb-to-nvme bridge, then they're bound to be good. These realtek bridges support TRIM, that's why.
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>>106370001
How do we feel about custom loops?
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>>106370037
>If they have the realtek usb-to-nvme bridge, then they're bound to be good. These realtek bridges support TRIM, that's why.
Thanks for the tip! Now if only they would tell me about the chips in sales materials...
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Redpill me on copper heatsinks for ram
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>>106369970
Remember that HMB doesn't work via USB. If you care about latency and longevity, buy an SSD with DRAM.
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>>106370050
Some do say. Look for reviews and people's comments. I doubt you'll have much trouble finding whichever bridge is any of these enclosures.
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>>106369863
Deepcool CH260 or Jonsbo D32 Pro for a white build?
Seems like the CH260 has slightly better temps for the GPU? But I would need to get a new PSU because it doesn't have a cover and the one I have right now is black...
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>>106369970
https://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-SuperSpeed-Enclosure-Aluminum-SST-MS12/dp/B08WHMZ6T8?th=1

This has worked fine for me even checking 600 GB torrents on it.
You may have to upadte the firmware when you get it.
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>>106370070
Buy the D32 Pro if you need to get a new PSU for the CH260... Think man.
>Muh gpu temps...
It's scuffed in either case anyway, oc + undervolt & power limit it if you want to lower GPU temp.
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Why is 16GB VRAM considered bad now?
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>>106370105
It's not, neither is 12gb
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>>106370048
You're a bad person if you make one.
That's the vibe I get anyway.
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>>106370058
>>106370069
>>106370084
thanks so much anons!!
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>>106370105
It's not
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>>106370105
Only if you're an AI freak.

>>106370133
You can't really fit any good AI model in a 16GB buffer. Maybe if you just want text, but if you want to use WAN for video you'll have trouble.
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>>106370105
it's bad in high end cards
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Can anyone please recommend some good HDR content to watch/download and where to get it so I can compare my non HDR monitor with my HDR one?

Having a bit of trouble deciding. I seem to like like the over saturated colours that you get with HDR off.
please and thanks
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>>106370105
AI chuds want 64 GB cards so they can exercise their mental illness of talking to inanimate objects.
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>>106370001
Air coolers are cheaper, don't die after 3 years and require zero maintenance.
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>>106370163
cyberpunk 2077 at night with all the neon lights and cars driving around in the city.
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>>106370001
Open loop. Why have 1000w dump into a metal box when you can pump it all externally right off the bat.
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>>106370178
thanks but was hoping for non vidya
i don't own cyberpunk
i can pirate it but it's been too long since i have i don't even know the safe sites anymore. then
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>>106370052
Seems pointless when pointing any kind of fan at even bare sticks is the most effective means of cooling. Besides adding them to a custom loop, anyway.
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I remember when 1GB VRAM was plenty for gaming at reasonable for the time (1280x1024 at 4:3 or 720p at 16:9) resolutions.
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>>106370163
>HDR content to watch
Youtube has plenty. Download mpv with yt-dlp and open the video via command line

I often use this to compare colors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXb3EKWsInQ
And I use something like this for the contrast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiryvrStb8E
The pretty lights against the dark of night is beautiful.
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>>106369863
just watched the blackmarket gpu vid.
>48gb GPUs made by some guy in his shop
i bet theres so much more shit in china that we have no idea about
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>>106370327
>>48gb GPUs made by some guy in his shop
You can do it, too. People have been modding the 3070 to have 16GB for a while now. The problem is getting the BIOS to work. I think the people that mod these cards keep this a secert.
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>>106370282
>I remember when 1GB VRAM was plenty for gaming at reasonable for the time (1280x1024 at 4:3 or 720p at 16:9) resolutions.

980 Ti came out almost 10 years ago and we've just now gotten to the point where it literally can't play some new games (Alan Wake 2).

>GeForce 7950 GT - 512 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit
>GeForce 8800 Ultra - 768 MB, GDDR3, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX - 512 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 - 1536 MB, GDDR5, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 (dual GPU card)- 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti - 6 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 11 GB, GDDR5X, 352 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11 GB GDDR6
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 - 32 GB
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Questions:
- My understanding is that 9800x3d + 9070xt + mobo and rest gives estimated wattage around 530W, which is circa 80% of 650W (i.e. 520W). So 650W it is then? There is no reason to go higher than this?
Regarding mobos:
- motherboards draws around 100W?
- Is it SAFE to install issued AyyMD CPU to mobo and update it? Or should I rely on the CPU-less(?) update feature?
- Anyone ever used wifi 7 or even 6e? I can only think of using them to transfer huge data from / to / between NASes.
- Back-connect connector? Sounds nice on paper, but I wonder how PC cases are compatible with that?
- which AM5 chipset should I even consider? All I understand that I need 1x16 5.0 for GPU and "any rational minimum" for NVMe SSD?
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>>106370351
Bespoke increase of VRAM

>GTX 1600 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER - 4 GB, GDDR6, 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 - 6GB, GDDR5, 192 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit

>RTX 2000 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11 GB GDDR6

>RTX 3000 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB - 12 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - 10 GB, GDDR6X, 320 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 12 GB - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 20GB - 20 GB, GDDR6X, 320 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit

>RTX 4000 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti - 16 GB, GDDR6, 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 192 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER - 16GB VRAM
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 - 16 GB, GDDR6X, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER - 16 GB, GDDR6X, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
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>>106370001
both suck. Custom loops are better in every way (unless you're poor)
>>106370195
I'm building a MO-RA 400 next. I feel like it's the future.
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>>106370358
well first consider a GPU that isn't worse than nvidia's last gen (lmao).

The B850 is fine for the 9800. Just make sure you're getting the lanes you want on your GPU and NVME slot since you're going to change to get a non-shit GPU
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>>106370001
Custom loop because it's unironiclly easier to fuck with than an AIO
You can't change a motherbaord without removing a block or radiator.
I can tho.
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>>106370358
>So 650W it is then
You can't even buy a top tier PSU for this low wattage. Most start at 750w.
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>>106370368
What's the difference between AIO and custom loops
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>>106370345
There's a YouTube channel called GPU solutions that explains how to mod 3070s and 3080s to 16gb and 20gb respectively. You'd basically have to reconfigure some resistors on the board based on the brand and capacity of vram you're installing and it will just work afterwards.

48gb 4090s require more work since you'd need a custom clamshell memory PCB and the early leaked or a modded vbios.
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>>106370396
anon I've been speccing out a MO-RA 400 build. It's not gonna be cheap :(

>>106370410
With AIOSlop, you get some noisy shitty pump and all the tubing pre-connected to the rads. With a custom loop you pick out each part one by one, and then assemble it yourself. You can also cool your GPU and CPU (or memory if you an AMD madlad OC'er) on the same loop.
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noob here,

Do you guys buy individual components and put them all together yourselves?

What if I know nothing about computers, what's my option to get a powerful PC? Buy one from Dell?
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>>106370032
Cheap AIO’s cost roughly double what decent air coolers do for something that’s not a pathetic 120mm unit and who fucking cares anyways, an air cooler can easily cool a 200w ryzen 9. What are you even doing with an AIO on the CPU? The GPU is the only thing that needs liquid cooling these days.
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>>106370428
>What are you even doing with an AIO on the CPU? The GPU is the only thing that needs liquid cooling these days.
It's cute when people who don't OC try and talk :3
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>>106370426
>Do you guys buy individual components and put them all together yourselves?

Yes. They must be compatible with each other, or it won't work.

>What if I know nothing about computers, what's my option to get a powerful PC? Buy one from Dell?

Buy a laptop.
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>>106370426
I taught myself to build a PC at 11 years old with nothing but the internet decades ago. You can do it, too.
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>>106370426
yes theres thorough guides on youtube on how to put a PC together and the manuals that come with the parts are simple.

if you don't want to put it together yourself you can buy a prebuilt, many options for prebuilt PCs that are good enough for the average person or newcomers. just do your research first. you can even pay a service fee to someone to put your PC together if you buy the parts separately
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How many fans does your case really need?
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>>106370441
Air cooler cools a 200w ryzen 9 just fine, you only need an AIO to OC if ur stupid enough to have bought intel.
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>>106370455
in a matx, 3 bottom 3 front, 1 rear, 3 top, 1 for CPU if not AIO
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>>106370459
Well yeah. 200w Ryzen 9 has 100w spread over two CCDs and is way easier to cool than 150w on a single CCD 9800x3d.
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>>106370426
>Do you guys buy individual components and put them all together yourselves?
Yeah, some of us do, other people might just come here for help selecting the parts and then pay somebody to build the rig.
>What if I know nothing about computers, what's my option to get a powerful PC? Buy one from Dell?
You can buy a prebuilt, there are actually decent options out there, however be ready to pay a markup and for some of the parts not being top shelf.
Or as in my first point you can maybe tell us where do you live, whats your budget. what do you want the computer for and maybe some kind anons can help you making a list on pcpartpicker
Then you can contact a tech specialist in your area and ask his fees for putting it all together if you dont want to do it yourself; which can be daunting sure but its not that hard and its an incredible learning experience.
For reference a couple years ago i asked a couple business near me and i got quoted about 70€ for them to put the pieces together and install windows on the computer if i delivered them the components.
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>>106370314
thanks. is there a way to tell whether it's playing in HDR or not?
I've got MPV so I'll definitely do that.
Just deciding between a va miniled and an ips. I don't really know what I'm looking at so I'm hoping it will help me decide. The black levels on the miniled are top tier but I'm questioning if I really even care.

What content do people watch where they want/need true deep blacks? The grey you get on an IPS doesn't really bother me.
For HDR, I'm still not sure on how it works best. Since I saturate my colours a lot, HDR looks washed out to me so I need to give it another run
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>>106370426
Fuckton of YT videos showcasing montage.
The only reason you don't want to build PC from individual parts is you value your time enough to not even bother with building.

>>106370389
Unless I am mistaken, 9070XT has great framerates for 1440p and the price remains in MSRP (euroslav here).
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>>106370455
Is all this liquid shit in a PC safe? Does it ever need to be replaced?
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>>106370455
24 delta fans running at 10000rpm
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>>106369863
What about prebuilts? Is there ones with trade in to so i can swap it in for new hardware?
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best looking AIO for AM4?
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>>106370564
>thanks. is there a way to tell whether it's playing in HDR or not?
Shift-I gives all sorts of info.
By the way, create a mpv.conf file and write this line: vo=gpu-next
In Windows make sure HDR is active (Win+Alt+B activates it). Now you can rest assured that it's playing in HDR.
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I need to replace my drive. I've noticed it's starting to fail. I want to just move the whole thing over seamlessly to a new drive. Nothing else about my build is going to change. What's the best way to go about cloning it 1:1? I am really, really hoping to avoid having to download all my shit again, I also have SecureBoot enabled. I assume I should turn that off before I do this.
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>>106370450
Which are the best options for prebuilt PCs? I've usually bought from Dell due to the guarantee and support safetynet if the shit hits the fan.

>>106370553
Thanks. I'm in the UK and doing a quick search, most people in my area offering the service are from an ethnic group not known for their honesty, but moreso their scamming and deceiving, so I can never trust someone to put one together for me.
My budget is upto 4.5k if necessary as I want a powerful PC for gaming (DCS) that will last a good 5-10yrs hopefully (my last Win7 PC lasted over 10+ yrs)

>>106370573
I believe you are correct. I do value my time and simply have the time to learn this from scratch, given that I'll be paying a load of money for components that may not work when put together. I'd rather buy a pre-build one. Which YT vid would you recommend?
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>>106370581
>Is all this liquid shit in a PC safe?
As safe as you make it.

>Does it ever need to be replaced?
Yeah basic maintenance (flush and inspect) about once a year.
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>>106370368
What riser cable are you running? PCIE 5 has been an issue with many.
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>>106370396
How much did your current custom loops cost you?
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>no ryzen 9000 CPU comes with a cooler
why are they so greedy?
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>>106370368
I just use an AIO because I CBA to make sure something doesn't go wrong, flushing them for cleaning, bending the tubes, testing for leaks, ensuring I have everything perfectly measured... Yeah, I'd rather just stuff and AIO in my computer and turn up the fan speed when I'm playing video games. Not like I can hear it anyway over closed headphones blasting music, explosions, and slurs.
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Is there a case that can hold at least 16 3.5 hdds in the ~$100-200 range? It can be 16 bays or like 12 with 3 5.25s (I can print 3x5.25 to 4x3.5 brackets) or even just 12 5.25s, anything is fine. On pcpartpicker it shows mostly out of stock cases with a handful being in the upper 200s and 300s which is ridiculous no matter how niche it is.
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>>106370865
its greed+when the CPU dies from overvolting itself they can blame you and your aftermarket cooler
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>>106370811
For me >>106370396 it is roughly $700
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>>106370455
>4 pump + reservoir combos
???
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>>106370991
Let me guess.. you NEED more?
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>>106370943
curious, will do some research
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>>106370998
Not really. But why would you have the CPU and 1 GPU on the same loop if you're already running that kind of rig?
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>>106370902
Used or Aliexpress rackmount is probably your best bet for that many bays on the cheap. Yeah there are consumer ATX cases that can do it but, as you noted, they're not cheap. Super niche requirement so the manufacturers that do make them can charge what they want.
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How do I install steamos on my old PC
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>>106371051
You don't. Use Bazzite or go pure Arch.
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>>106371051
>How do I install steamos on my old PC
https://gprivate.com/6i45a
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>>106371013
Here is some things I wish I would have known or do know
EK is overpriced full stop. There is no quality to be had outside of looks, their ZMT tubing is alright
HWLabs makes some of the better radiators, not overly expensive either.
Bitspower makes some of the better rotary fittings.
Most DDC and D5 pumps are all the same make between brands. Most are made by Laing/Xylem with some exceptions
Alphacool D5 pumps are knockoffs, most Chinese brand pumps that claim to be D5s are also.
DDC pumps have multiple versions, 3.2 and 4.2 are the only worthwhile ones.
Isolate your pump/reservior
Use a coolant, it's $15 for some XT nuke concentrate and $2 for a gallon of distilled water. Not worth skimping using distilled only or god forbid tap water.

That being said, don't get too caught up in perfomance differences. It's somewhat hard to ruin a loop based on component choices save for if you use extremely loud fans, but with how much radiatior space you can have you can run fans really slow.
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Im gonna wait for DDR6 to come out. Theres not much performance gains between 4 and 5 to justify buying a new mother board and ram and cpu
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Trumps 10% stake in intel will turn it around.
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ETA on DDR6 bros?
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for me it's DDR7
the more you wait the more you get
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>>106371348
rumors say it will launch in fall with new intel CPUs
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>>106371352
DDR7 will be 100 percent faster than DDR5 and have 400 percent more latency. It will barely beat out DDR5 in the real world and crash constantly.
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>dont buy the rtx 5050 instead spend several hundred more dollars to play your esports games
why are ecelebs (shills) like this?
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>>106369863
PRICES WILL GO DOWN
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>>106371432
>$249 MSRP
might as well save your money and get a used 3060 for 150 bucks to play your League of Legends and CSGO and shit
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>>106369964
thats radeon 7 not xtx
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>>106371432
IDK
I think they really miss the point.
I had a GTX 550 TI way back in the day. it likely wasn't great value but it was the gateway drug for me.
People are naturally attracted to a low price point and I'd imagine for some it's the difference between having a decent PC and not having one if they have to shell out extra for the "better value" card. Even if $50 extra.

I guarantee you on average people are going to have more fun with their 5050s than a techtoober has in the last decade with their xx80/xx90 cards.
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>>106371468
3060 loses in any game that has dlss and forced ray tracing
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>>106370455
1-3 intakes and 1 exhaust, bare minimum. Add more if needed
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at what price would you consider a used 7900xtx to be good value?
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>>106371596
IMO there's no point. The extra ram is good but without the AI cores, it's both terrible at AI and RT.
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I’m set on OLED for the best visuals, around 25 hours of use per week, mostly weekends, budget is €600 and I’m fine replacing in 4–5 years if needed, longer if I baby the panel, I’m just torn between the ASUS ROG Strix XG27AQDMG and the AOC AG276QZD2, any advice/recommendations?
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>>106371497
Yeah but do any of the esports titles actual real world people play have that? Not Valorant, not League, not DOTA, not CS, not Fortnite...
Actual people don't play shit like Indiana Jones that forces you to have an RT-capable GPU.
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what in the actual fuck happened to RAM prices? spiked hard in august. Just the other day it was at 1100 (~116 $)
I was waiting for black friday sale, but it spiked 90-ish bucks in a month
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>>106371625
I dont do any AI, upscaling, or ray tracing stuff so none of that matters to me. Although I suppose that could change in the future
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>>106371695
tariffs
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I'm supposed to believe Youtube shilling is the sole reason for this?
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>>106371721
intel sucks cock. simple as.
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>>106370105
Because Nvidia will give us 18GB on the low end
9070XT copers are trying to claim it's still good
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>>106371721
I have no idea what you mean but:
1 - The 9800X3D and 7800X3D are the best bang-for-buck CPUs on the market dedicated to gaming
2 - The 13th and 14th have become infamous because of all the instability and degradation
3 - The 12th gen were actually very good and don't suffer from any problems - they're just older and weaker, that's all.
4 - The new Ultra 200 series offer worse gaming performance than the 14th gen because of very high latencies. Intel went one step forward, one step back.
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>>106371695
If you don't need that exact kit* you can get an equivalent one for <700kr.
https://se.pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#b=ddr4&S=3200,8400&TT=160-180-180-350,160-180-180-360,160-180-180-380,160-180-180-400,160-180-180-430&sort=price&Z=16384002

*Even if you do, because you're adding memory, Corsair is known to change ICs without notice.
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>>106371695
>complaining about ddr4 prices in 2025
what kind of poorfag are you?

>>106371743
Njudea will obviously 'win' performance metrics with this refresh, it was expected they would. 9070xt will remain better value however, like it always did outside of communist shitholes like the EU with its bad pricing regulations. AMD will hopefully do better next gen, to save us from the endless kikery of Njudea.
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>>106371717
tarrifs have been in effect for a while now though
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>>106371679
Asus has superior firmware and no mandatory 16h refreshes last time I checked, aoc does
I bought a G80SD for 600€
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>>106371772
I've had corsair for all my rigs and they've been good, I don't trust lexar or whatever else.
>>106371785
I just wanted to expand my ram and not buy an entirely new rig, sue me faggot
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>>106371785
Nvidia definitely makes better hardware. The 5070Ti is both fast and more efficient in every workload compared to the 9070XT. Less power and better framerate.
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>>106371788
there was a lot of stock shipped ahead of tariffs to prepare and some delays to avoid price shock, but that is running out
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>>106371841
should've bought earlier this summer
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Any True Black 600 OLED out there yet?
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>>106371695
DDR4 has been discontinued.
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>>106371822
What does that mean? Mandatory 16h refreshes?
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>>106371695
I remember DDR2 pricing sky rocketing after DDR3 was set in stone. Same thing happened to DDR3, same thing is happening to DDR4 now. It's normal.
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>>106371828
Well like I said Corsair are known to change ICs without notice so matching SKUs won't guarantee stability. Especially on a 3200C16 bin which could be anything under the hood. In your situation it would probably be better, not to mention cheaper, to buy a fresh 2x16GB and sell your current one to recoup.
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>>106371861
It has not.
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>>106371717
>>106371788
>>106371841
>>106371854
You are aware he's in Sweden, right?
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>>106371919
yes
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>>106371868
A timer which counts up to 16 hours of panel use, if a pixel refresh is not triggered before then a mandatory forced pixel refresh that's unskippable will forcefull turn off your monitor for 6-10 minutes until the pixel refresh is done, this is anti consumer and also gets increasingly worse with how buggy the implementation is, this will make you hate your life and oled monitors, trust me

Any manufacturer who implements this should have their engineers jump from the highest roof with no safety nets, objectively

Historically this includes aoc, Philips, HP/omen, msi (24h now) and maybe more

This is why I suggest buying monitors with no such behaviour

But if you don't trust me FAAFO
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IPS ultrawides are rare? everything is fucking VA
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>>106371914
>"Industry client"
It's referring to enterprise/server clients, not XMP-binned kits.
The supplies of DDR4 modules that DIY builders & gamers buy are drying up.
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>>106371969
Makes sense. They do that to prevent gamma shifting. IPS don't have gamma shifting so there's not much point in doing curved monitors.
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>>106371596
it has to be less than a 9070xt
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>>106371914
https://www.techpowerup.com/339803/ddr4-and-lpddr4-supply-tightens-sharply-in-2h25-as-structural-shortage-drives-strong-price-surge

They are only producing them for servers at this point.
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>>106371969
ips would suck for ultrawide because of the ips glow on the off angle sections of the screen.
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>>106371596
I see a dude selling a 7900XTX for 650€. Consdering I paid 711€ new for a 9070XT, I'm not sure I would...
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>>106371721
>youtube shilling
noone is keeping you away from buying an intel cpu but when you cry about how it decayed on /g/ we will make fun of you same for assrock b850+ryzen9xxx combos
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when should you upgrade your case? I upgrade piece by piece so never really get a chance to upgrade my case
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>>106371822
Where did you find one for 600?
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>>106370455
I only have two 120s drawing in air to my 5090 at the bottom (no stock fans) and two slim fans pulling air through the aio radiatior at the top, all running at idle speeds in a mini-itx case
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So a rtx pro 6000 blackwell is only 26% better than a 5080 for ai video upscaling?

This is the only bench I could find from the topaz forums.

At least chronos (interpolation) is 61% faster.

I shudder to think how long it will take to upscale and interpolate to 120 fps these older VR videos I have.
I think one of the websites that releases a remaster once a month is using one of the cloud models to upscale....
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>>106372046
Store sale, gotta buy the dip
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>>106372085
5080 bench
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>>106371721
>12700KF and 12700K over the 14600KF at pretty much the same price
do people really go "ooga booga i7 good i5 bad"
>5800XT sells less than the 5800X despite being cheaper
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>>106371919
everything amerisharts do have consequences everywhere so it affects sweden too
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>>106371721
My buddy was looking to build a new computer a few months ago, he was deadset on intel because that's what he has always used. Made a list and everything. He went to a computer store nearby and chatted with an employee for a bit and came back with an amd build kek
Intel comeback when?
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>>106372206
A friend of mine is deadset on Intel for his upcoming PC gaming rig JUST because of Thunderbolt support. That's literally it. He wants his PC to be a Mac that runs Windows and can game...
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>>106372244
Just tell him USB4 is essentially thunderbolt
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>>106372085
You obviously buy those cards for the vast ammounts of VRAM, not for the extra performance over consumer GPUs.
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>>106372108
They are scared of all 13/14th-gen CPUs. Reddit's advice is to buy 12th gen.
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>>106372108
>>106372327
I bought a 12900ks a year ago for $230. That bastard basically turns energy into heat. I've seen it go over 300w easily.
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>>106372368
14n++++++++++++++++++++++++++ in a nutshell.
>inb4 it's not actually 14n
It's probably 14n-mini that they called 7n.
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>>106372206
I know a few diehard intel people that switched. They got burned badly buy 13900K/14900K failures and instability. It wasn't even the failures as much as the instability. One guy told me he'd have been fine having his 14900K die every 6 months and getting a new one if the thing was just fucking stable in between then. And evidently intel fucked around a lot denying it before finally admitting when shit got too big to ignore.
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The more I think about it the more I appreciate the 5070. $550, faster than a 3090ti, future proofed featureset and enough vram to at least make it through the next cross gen period. What's not to love?
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Have both 5800X3D and 5700X3D ended? Can't find them in stock anywhere.
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>>106370002
I just want a console-sized HTPC.
The options seem to be as follows
>chinese ryzen APU mini-PCs (tiny, fair price, good for emulators and PS4-era games, but recent games will look like shit on a big TV)
>...
>...
>... (the miserable world of wildly overpriced ITX shit with endless compromises)
>...
>...
>normal atx/m-atx tower (lots of cheap powerful parts, but incredibly fucking huge and completely out of place in a living room)
There's the new ryzen AI max chips, which have way better GPUs but cost like $2000.
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>>106372484
it's not a bad GPU, it's just going to be hamstrung by it's 12GB sooner rather than later. 5070 Super will be a GOAT buy for 95% of people
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>>106372484
I don't think there's any bad GPUs right now
If you have a certain dollar amount and you buy the gpu to fit that dollar amount, you'll get a GPU that'll give you the expected performance for it. I think no bad products just bad prices applies to some GPUs in this generation, unfortunately on the lower end.

The only difference is if you can buy a 9070 XT at $600 you'll get a GPU that is worth more than that. And that's still $600 on a GPU.
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>>106372488
>He doesn't know.
>>106372498
>RTX Neural Textures makes effective vram amount go 10x in youre path
Now what?
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>>106372528
>Now what?
wake me up when it's implemented in every game
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>>106372538
Consdering consoles rule the market - never.
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>>106372528
>>>RTX Neural Texture Compression
Those will lower VRAM requirements
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>>106372545
I think we'll see it with RDNA 5 and the next gen consoles as AMD are working on something similar that hasn't been implemented yet
https://gpuopen.com/download/2024_NeuralTextureBCCompression.pdf
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>>106372545
1 console does and there's a lot of gamers out there now that don't have a ps5, more now than ever.
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How will I be able to squeeze in an SSD into the secondary slot on my new build's (left image) MOBO with the GPU (2 slot, 2 fan) in place??? I don't want to remove the GPU just for that...
On my old PC (right image) there was plenty of room for everything...
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>>106372602
>moving to mATX
>complaining about the lack of space
retard
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>>106372602
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>>106370002
Based friend, thank you for the chuckle.
Screenshotted to make it easier for the energetically challenged.
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>>106370002
Holy fucking based
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>>106370002
I'm gonna do it

I'M GONNA DO IT
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>>106372631
this is why women only want 6'5+ men
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Why the fuck has RAM gotten more expensive over the last 2 months?
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>>106372327
which is why 14th gen is a great deal now
>>106372368
lmao
you could fix that but it's up to you, these CPUs don't run well out of the box
i don't know if intel did anything to 12th gen with the new microcode but it shouldn't be allowed to go to 300W with the latest BIOS
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>>106371721
according to the anti-amd nigger yes
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>>106372631
She's hot.
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>>106370002
Who cares
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>>106372691
>14th gen is a great deal now
I mean, sure, if you like space heater CPUs. And I say that as the owner of a 13700K.
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>>106372690
It hasn't
> inb4 DDR4
Those things are reaching their end of production, fuck off.
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i dont remember if it was itt or two ago but someone linked pudget systems
>https://www.pugetsystems.com/bios/jonbach/
>In addition to his role at Puget Systems, Jon also represents the company on the Intel Board of Advisors, which helps Intel see the real-world application of their products, and how to better serve their users.
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>>106372746
seems fine to me, it's not even hitting the stock power limit
like i said these CPUs don't run well out of the box, especially not with intel default settings on the latest BIOS versions
you have to fix it yourself
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Trump is the barometer of what is good and what is bad. What he does is good and what he doesnt do is bad. Trump did not invest in AMD so it is bad
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>>106370459
>200w
What happens when I turn on the stress test and we're looking at 300w+? What now, nigger?
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Thanks to the anon mentioning these air blower things a few threads back, this thing is a fucking beast
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>>106372892
just dont use it near storage because it can corrupt drives due to the EMF its electric motor creates
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>>106372892
What do I gain using this over what I have now (an air compressor)
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>>106372905
there's always some bullshit that ruins fast pc cleaning
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUnRWh4xOCY
>retard drama baiter gets a reality check
alexa, play the curb your enthusiasm theme
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>>106372813
>you have to fix it yourself
You don't have to tell me twice, mine runs with a -140mV offset plus the motherboard's "built in" VRM undervolt, under a Phantom Spirit 120. No throttling but it does get to high 80s very easily. Been stable for me this whole time, thank god.
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>>106372971
I'm not giving this fat retard a watch, what does he say?
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all these reviewers discourage you from buying the rtx 5050 and rx 9050 because they want you to buy more expensive cards so they get more money through their affiliate links
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>>106372989
idk i aint watching that shit either
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>>106372981
>Phantom Spirit 120.
>14700k
Why? You know aios are cheap now right?
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>>106372971
Fuck NVIDIA/AMD/Intel/ etc, but what the fuck did he think would happen.
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>>106372908
Nothing except portability. I got this because I was using canned air before
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i'm only getting 2.3 fps upscaling this vr video....There's really no way it can go significantly faster. shoot me.
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>>106373012
oh
Well wouldn't you just buy an air compressor to begin with? What if your tire goes flat or you need a nail gun to put sinners to a cross?
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>>106373001
13700K actually. I refuse to go liquid, I prefer coolers that don't just fail after a few years. And you can't beat that price/performance on the PS120, fuck Noctua and their overpriced heatsinks.
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>>106372981
what's the problem then? temperature isn't heat
just because it's sitting in the high 80s doesn't mean it's dumping a ton of heat into your room/apartment
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>>106373036
this post implies that jesus was a sinner
enjoy burning in hell
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>>106373045
>temperature isn't heat
lolwut
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>>106373053
you can ask chatgpt
should have been covered in high school physics
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>>106370002
retarded take. here's my retarded rebuke. van life, boat life, tiny house life, cubicle life, etcetera.
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>>106373006
>>106372989
bloomberg is trying to take down his channel because he used footage of Trump that they published.
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>>106373075
>van life, boat life, tiny house life, cubicle life, etcetera.
>cuck life, cuck life, cuck life, cuck life, etcetcetc (more cuckage)
lol
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>>106373085
no, u
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>>106373083
He's bad mouthing the richest man in the world and using a platform that's in Leather man's back pocket. Again, what did he expect?
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>>106373108
still, gn is fighting the good fight
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>>106373108
He's going to make more off the drama videos about this dmca legal fiasco than what he would off the documentary.
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>>106373118
Well he should choose his battles. Dying on an ant hill is dumb. We all know NVIDIA is a shit company. I paid out the ass for my last GPU, so I'm well aware of their shenanigans.
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>>106372810
Puget Systems aren't Intel's cocksuckers, they set lower PL1 than Intel's spec for the 12/13/14th gen -K CPUs. (125W carebear mode).
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/power-draw-and-cooling-14th-gen-intel-core-processors/

They set stricter automatic boost parameters; they might be disabling PBO unless specifically asked by the client to leave it on.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/AMD-Ryzen-7950X-Impact-of-Precision-Boost-Overdrive-PBO-on-Thermals-and-Content-Creation-Performance-2373/
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>>106373135
Reasonable, the new high end CPUs are so fast you don't need pbo unless you want to benchmark wank
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>>106373128
>dying on an ant hill
okay, so independent journalism calling out multinational conglomerates is "an ant hill?"
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>>106373108
>bad mouthing the richest man in the world
Only because said man thinks he can copyright claim the words of POTUS.
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>>106373163
Attaching stretch goals and shit to that documentary is unfavorable wrt fair use of Bloomberg's media clips.
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I wonder what kinda stuff techjesus hides in his closet. It’s always the holier than thou types that are the weirdest
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>>106373183
bro is an obvious homo but I doubt he would care that much if that came out, its just not relevant.
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>>106373163
Yes. You died and accomplished nothing. I'm not saying it's a noble cause, it is just the outcome is clear from the beginning. Again what did he expect?
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>>106373219
>Again what did he expect?
I presume he expected that the words of the president of the united states of America concerning the topic he's making a video about could not be copyright claimed.
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>>106373219
Louis Rossman promised him some bussy for the attempt
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>>106373183
kinda weird to post that here bro
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>>106373233
How is that weird
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>>106373235
kinda weird how you can't tell that its weird
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>>106373227
That wasn't the reason that was the excuse. Why do you think there are so many dumb ass laws. They use them to round you up when you touch the tower. You have to be smarter.
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>>106373243
There is nothing weird about implying that everyone has secrets. He probably tortures puppies or something when the cameras aren’t rolling.
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I'm picking up two Nvidia K80s for fun. $60 each. Gonna learn about building clusters and I'll try heating my room during the winter by folding proteins.
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>>106373182
not much different than the bloomberg subscription for breadcrumb coverage
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>>106373219
projection
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>>106373292
Projecting the truth.
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>>106373312
your version, yes
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Are IPS shills all federal agents?
They can't be in a dimly lit room without wearing a hijab after all
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>>106373380
what
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Recommend 1440p monitors for general use
>Playing squad/battlefield, GHPC and the like
>But also want to be able to set it up for movie nights
Benq TN 1080p monitor covered these fields but the monitor is slowly dissambling itself from its stand
Do OLEDs ack themselves after a few years?
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>>106373325
I just described this exact instance. He should have been smarter, but flew too close to the sun. I hope he makes it out, but is a tad smarter.
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>>106373380
I like my mini led ips more than my oled.
Accurate colors are a meme
OLED brightness is shit
VA smearing is shit
Oh wow you can see light bleed out of your IpS boohoo with local dimming that’s a non issue
But ohhh you can see blooming with local dimming on waaah
Not on my M27P6 I can’t. I keep local dimming on alll the time.
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>>106373400
>mini led ips
What monitor?
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whats the best screen size (in your opinion) for 4k?
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>>106373407
M27P61152 zone HDR 1400 verified masterpiece from KTC
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>>106373387
Bioluminesance solves the IPS glow problem
>>106373400
Federal agent
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>>106373422
>Bioluminesance solves the IPS glow problem
Also hanging out in the basement.
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OLED is being pushed hard because retards will buy it and then burn it in and buy another. You can already see the first batch of 4k 240hz oleds starting to burn in on Reddit. Retards think burn in has been solved so they use them at max brightness with the taskbar always on. A real thinking man gets mini led. Or a regular ips.
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>>106373487
there is that one (multiple?) asshole who thinks it's normal to buy a new monitor every 3 years.
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>>106373514
there's people who buy new monitors every year, just like how there's people who buy new computers every gen
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>>106373526
>there's people who buy new monitors every year
literally saw many oled tards sell their old oleds just a few months after a new model comes out that's a "game changer", and they keep switching oleds every 6 months/1 year or so
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>>106373128
>We all know NVIDIA is a shit company. I paid out the ass for my last GPU, so I'm well aware of their shenanigans.
so basically an nvidiot customer defending them. weird how that happens
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>Twısted Minds TM32QHD165VA 32" 1 MS 165 Hz HDMI+DP HDR 2K QHD Fast VA LED Monitor
32" VA
Or
>GamePower Sonic T80 27" 0.5 MS 180 Hz QHD 2K Fast IPS LED Monitor
Good specs I27" IPS
Both 200 $
>James Donkey Epic Q40
As a bonus candidate
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>>106373526
>every year
What the fuck.
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>>106373108
isn't that what free speech is tho? I guess in your commie shithole that's a big problem
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fellow baste computer shooper magazine users and tigerdirect victims, please take the not inconsiderable(but noble) time to read my post, a letter to Donald Trump re gpus:
>>106371873
And if thou findst merit prithee bump
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>>106373526
>>106373564
Oled fanboys are mentally ill
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>>106372746
The i5s are a great deal for sure though
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>>106372892
How the fuck do you take this thing apart with destroying it if you ever want to replace the batteries?
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theres nothing these companies hate more then you playing old games
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I play new games with hardware requirements of 10 years ago
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>>106373398
get the cheapest 1440p 100+ Hz monitor you can find on amazon. Use it as long as you want and then when the time comes to upgrade just set it as your 2nd monitor. I found mine for like $110 and it works flawlessly.
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>>106373558
Hardware Unboxed and Gamers Nexus use NVIDIA in their rigs, then make their money bad mouthing them. I just get ripped off because there is no other option. I don't like it, but at least I'm not a hypocrite, telling everyone not to buy NVIDIA then use them myself.
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>>106373638
we can solve this problem
>>106371873
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Nvidia is for people too retarded to read GPU-Z like the niggers here who run expo without tweaking trefi or trfc
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>>106373575
I'm in the USA and free speech has been dead for 25 years. You are just celebrating the corpse as if it weren't rotting. Go try talking you mind elsewhere and see what happens.
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>>106373638
>telling everyone not to buy NVIDIA then use them myself.
When do they say to not buy nvidia?
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>>106373630
exactly. it's better than I am for gaming and image editing.
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>>106373654
they use them for video rendering.

why, they have extra money, their advice is to gaymers almost entirely.

decisions are based on balancing things out!!!! ie after everything elseis maxed maybe go for 5070ti+ (imo tho 3090 4090 5090 maybe 5080 too are all that's worthy of mention)
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>>106373669
When do they say to not buy nvidia?
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>>106373654
>When do they say to not buy nvidia?
Every video for the last year? Don't be a retard.
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>>106373673
fps uplift per dollar

take your current gpu
check fps in a game
compare to 4070 non ti

then i'll help you with the math

it's YOUR MONEY, and I AM NOT UR DADDY (sad zoomer condom rescue)
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Daniel Owen has made a tier list, 9070/xt shills destroyed.
I still think the 5070 is a better buy than a 5070ti for anyone that isn't at 4k
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(that's why he says "lost of people are on whatever like 2070, here's your percent uplift)
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>>106373709
he's an israeli and hasn't criticized the idf. please think about what you post.

consider the following
Allyship
Barriers to participation
BIPOC
Birthing person/inseminated person
Body shaming
Carceration
Centering
Chest feeding
Cisgender
Critical theory
Cultural appropriation
Deadnaming
Dialoguing
Existential threat to [climate, the planet, democracy, the economy]
Food insecurity
Heteronormative
Heuristic
Holding space
Housing insecurity
Incarcerated people
Intersectionality
Involuntary confinement
Justice-involved
Latinx
LGBTQIA+
Microaggression / assault/ invalidation
Minoritized communities
Othering
Overton Window
Patriarchy
Person who immigrated
Postmodernism
Pregnant people
Privilege
Progressive stack
Radical transparency
Safe space
Small ‘d’ democracy
Stakeholders
Subverting norms
Systems of oppression
The unhoused
Triggering
Violence (as in “environmental violence”)
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>>106373675
>>106373700
Starting to become /v/ in here. If you can't provide me a good example of when these people have gone out of their way to say
>DO NOT BUY NVIDIA
then I don't care to entertain your faggotry further. No, criticizing nvidia for asshole practices doesn't count.
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>>106373654
>>106373673
>>106373733
Dude you are the fan boy here. I don't defend NVIDIA and agree they are awful. I buy them because there is no other option.
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>>106373733
youre replying to someone who unironically shills gay chasers, gayniel owen, kike systems and other stuff i forgot
there was a time when he liked techcity but suddenly he forgot about him because he once said amd good
hes literally /v/eddit incarnate, and if you call him words he tells you to go back to /pol/
>amd bad, i went out my way to get scammed by nvidia because theres no other option
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>>106373709
>5090 is the best product overall
lel can't complain now
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>>106373733
Is there any tech company Steve hasn't buried yet?
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>>106373731
>he's an israeli
sounds like schizo babel to me
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>>106373765
Noctua maybe? He simps hard for them despite them being pretty behind feature wise and high price wise. Though you DO get a really good fan.
>>106373758
Yeah, dude seems like a schizo. I'm not asking for much, just a link or a time stamp to when someone like Steve said
>do not buy nividia
Hell, go back to the launch of the 5090 and he's complaining that he and others can't buy one.
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cant drama nexus fans go talk about steves hairy asshole on his website?
him stealing copyrighted footage from bloomberg is hardly on topic with building pcs
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>>106373784
The closest thing is telling people to not buy the 5060 8g... and they told people to also not buy the 9060XT 8gb
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>>106373784
I'm not the other guy but here's him saying to not buy Nvidia
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>>106373895
its just narrative building for clicks
like sure frame gen comparisons to real frames is misleading, but then you have loads of reviewers who go "heres amd without any software features compared vs nvidia and they're real competitive" which is MORE misleading to consumers who do find value in nvidias software stack
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>>106370001
Air.

It's perfectly doable to still be using an NH-D15 from 10+ years ago, and just replace the fan and asking for a new bracket when you change chipset.

AIOs, if you get 5 years out of them, that's pretty good.
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>>106373895
>Do not buy the 5070
That's it?
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>>106373917
>im not the other guy
thats a red flag
also im pretty sure i already saw that image countless times with different hashs by now
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>>106373932
Jensen said the 5070 = 4090, the videos were saying no it doesn't
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>>106373943
>something something out of context he never lied
casual reminder "he" literally said this to defend jacket man
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If every gpu reviewer did a competent job highlighting how frame gen or dlss adds value then nvidia wouldnt need to say anything
but they dont

they go "heres 1080p bench, amd number 1, nvidia number 2 buy amd ;D it's better value :) I'm a professional reviwer who is pro at running benches"

nvidia literally has to coerce them to mention frame gen for some reason
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>>106369863
Hey anons, I got a question for anyone of you. About an hour or so ago. I turned off my PC to go out and do some errands. Came back and when I turned it back on. It would be on and running like normal then turn off. So what could be the problem? The PSU? I have had my current PSU for almost a decade now. What do you anons think?
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>>106373978
Digital foundry kind of does that.
I also feel like ray reconstruction needs more attention, it's only officially in rtx remix mods and like 4 other releases but you can mod it into basically any ue5 game.
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>>106373978
if you dont really see the issue youre beyond salvation
>ok ill pay you 5 goycoins, you can framegen/dlss the rest of the salary since you love ai so much :^)
>>106374004
youre looking it at the wrong way
why does this super high tech and expensive thechnology only gets used by glorified quake 3 mods?
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>>106374004
general review outlet rankings for me is something like
tier 1: digital foundry who evangelize the leading edge in hardware and software in games to general audiences, hardware unboxed who basically set the standard for monitor reviews, rtings who do bulk reviews and allow comparisons between productgs with graphs, and... drama nexus who go above and beyond to tell you how a case design influencers noise levels

Tier 2: techpowerup, toms hardware. I dont really read them per se, but they are consistent source of good summaries and graphs. LTT videos can be useful for having a mix of competency and entertainment with decent production values for testing. Reddit user reviews. Some chinese mtl review that goes into inhumane depth on a product.

The rest:
The random reviews you find on google from gaming journos or generic tech sites tend to be laughable compared to the ones seriously pushing their specific review format. No graphs, no latency measurements, just a word count. They dont have personal investment into the product so they lack legitimacy of reddit posts.
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>>106374045
>why does this super high tech and expensive thechnology only gets used by glorified quake 3 mods?
Alan Wake 2
Cyberpunk
Indiana Jones
Doom The Dark Ages
Silent Hill 2 or really any ue5 game with grainy lighting
There's 4 games so far with path tracing and 5 examples of ray reconstruction
RE9 and that other game no one cares about are going to have path tracing
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when this place wasnt a graveyard
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/101698121/#101698442
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>>106373400
Thank you bro. I almost fell for the OLED meme and would have wasted a lot of money. Mini LED seems to be quite close to it but without burn in. I'll order the m27p6 too.
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>>106374117
drama nexus
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>>106374120
Too bad they don't offer a 32 inch.
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>>106374120
why not just get the 1440p VA one?
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>>106374100
You forgot someone.
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>>106374165
I tried watching him but he seems generally unpleasnt
the style of humour is distrinctly aimed at younger people and I dont like my time being wasted on unfunny shit that doesnt inform me any
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>>106374125
At least the ppi will be very high
>>106374132
>QHD in 2025
Everyone should have a 4K screen minimum these days. With DLSS4 you shouldn't have any issues even if you don't have a 5090
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>>106374165
He's just a rich guy with a youtube channel, nobody takes him seriously
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>>106374181
is the 5070 or better gpu owners even >10% of steam hardware survey?
4k doesnt mean sense for people who buy 3070, 4070, 5060 tier gpus even with extreme upscaling
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>>106374175
>>106374184
What about der8auer?
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>>106374181
>PPI will be very high
I need more screen real estate though. Plus I want to be able to move my chair off to the side, sit back on the couch behind me and watch shit. 27 inch screen isn't big enough to do this.
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>>106374213
If I ever get recced him on youtube I only ever watch like 10% of the video. I typically dont care about stuff he talks about as its very niche.
Im never personally going to delid a fucking cpu and use a custom milled cooler with liquid metal on it.
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Wuthering Waves is getting DLSS4 in 4 days
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>>106374195
There's dual mode. Poorfags with a bad GPU could switch to 1080p 320hz for gaming and back to 4k for other stuff. You're just severely gimping yourself for going anything under 4K. QHD value is only going down in the coming years but hey, it's your money.
>>106374216
>couch
Just get a TV at that point. I think they're way better priced than monitors anyways.
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>>106374213
Used to be legit then pivoted to selling toothpaste to fund his hobby
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>>106374233
>TV
I've tried a TV and it just didn't work well. Maybe they're better now but they fit my use case of the 90% of the time I'm sitting in my chair and then the 10% of the time I'm feeling like crap and want to recline.
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>>106374233
>ur gimping urself going 4k
>u should game at 1080p on a 32" monitor instead of 1440p on 27"
....
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>>106374242
As long as the products aren't a complete scam then who cares.
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>>106374213
i like him and the guy that exposed the nvidia housefire connector, harcore overclocking or something, forgot his name
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>>106373709
>5080 in C-tier
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>>106374275
its just poor value
but. if you say make money you might earn the difference between 5080 and 5070ti in a week while some neets here have to save a year from their welfare checks to buy a 5060
so dont feel bad about it
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>>106374213
DerBauer's a good egg, very transparent about the products he's shilling.
Thermal Grizzly products are on the pricier side, but they provide good customer support.
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>>106374275
It's worse than the 4090 in every way except power consumption
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>>106373985
Let us know your system specs, but it could be a dying PSU.
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TOTAL REALTEK NIC DEATH. My Intel pcie nic from 2015 is giving me 0 problems compared to the Realtek one on my x870e mobo
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>>106374256
If you are set on getting a MiniLED, and money isn't an issue, then there's the BenQ EX321UX. 4K 32" and I've heard good things about it, except the pricing.
>>106374260
>I want good quality gaming on a bad gpu
You already gimped yourself by not upgrading your shitty videocard. Just take the DLSS pill.
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>>106373985
Check your connectors if it happens again. And if it stays dead you can jump your your PSU to see if it at least powers up.
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>>106374322
Often times they use the same chip they've been using for 10 years
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>>106374274
>harcore overclocking or something
Actually Hardcore Overclocking.
Buildzoid would have more exposure and be more financially successful if he benchmarked popular games with easy-tune settings.
His low-effort commentary on how Starfield possibly scales well from tuned memory got more views than his niche OC stuff.
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>>106374213
Had to stop watching this guy when it came out that he does literal cuck shit
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>>106374330
lets say you some day open up a game with no dlss support on your affordable gpu
1440p has over double the frame rate on native res than 4k
that means a playable fun experience vs frustrating experience where you have to think about when could you upgrade the gpu

who wants to think about upgrading the gpu to have fun playing videogames for years and year
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>>106374345
That's pretty tame for a German fetish really.
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>>106374342
The fact gamers nexus supported him when he was smaller makes me think better of him
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>>106374345
wasnt that l*nus the fagleaf?
>>106374352
oh right the kraut, im mixing up stuff
personally i like techcity because of the variety, used stuff and more "realistic" scenarios
also there was this bald bong that i used to watch but forgot his channel name but he was more of a hw reviewer than a benchmarker
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>>106374350
QHD is a good middle ground for poor people. 4K is already becoming the new standard. It's only gonna grow so investing in a good gpu and screen will futureproof yourself for the next 10 years or so (8K is a big meme)
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>>106374375
>bald bong
? They have decent PSU reviews.
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>>106374386
futureproofing = meme

unless you KNOW you're spending 1k € on a gpu soon your monitor should be 1440p
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>>106374395
no it wasnt that guy (unless he aged 20 years in 5)
thats the problem, bald bong is as specific as living creature that breathes
ill see if i can find him again
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>>106374400
>futureproofing = meme
Unless you're buying an AMD motherboard. Zen4 on AM4 soon.
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>>106374340
It's the RTL8126 which is relatively new, it was giving me this weird problem that i thought was DNS at first; it would just fail the first time I connected to things at random, like if I opened a pic here it would either not load at all or load like 1/5 and give up, then I'd have to refresh the page and it would work fine. Same thing every time I opened a new tab. Was happening on Linux and Windows with the official drivers. I thought it was a DNS issue so I changed servers but that still didn't resolve it. Dug out an old intel pcie nic from 2015 and it's working perfectly now.
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>>106374305
I have had the PSU for over or near a decade now. I am surprised it held up this long. Have used it in previous builds.
Specs:
Asus Gtx1060
Asus X470-f
AMD ryzen 3700x
Cooler master 650W PSU
G.Skill ripjaws ddr4 3200 8GBx2
>>106374334
Everything is in though. It's been stationary all weekend until I shut it off and came back to turn it back on. It turned on like normal then a few seconds later it would shut off by itself.
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>>106374400
It isn't when the difference between QHD and UHD is so gigantic. Even with upscaling, it's still way better than native QHD.
>1k$ gpu
It's below 1k though, poor people still can get the 9070xt for midrange 4k performance. 4k is affordable for gaming and definitely mandatory for everything else.
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>>106374440
Bruh, you got your money out of it, time to get a new one
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>>106374440
Try using a different power strip or power socket.
But manufacturers and retailers will tell you that 650W PSU lasted long enough; these usually come with a 3~5 year limited warranty.
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>>106374345
no way lmao
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>>106374431
>Was happening on Linux and Windows with the official drivers
r8126? i was using r8125 for a while on my old motherboard and some versions definitely acted weird
the latest (9.016.01) was fine though
i'm sure the overworked intern will fix it eventually
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>>106374458
Yep on borrowed time after the warranty goes
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>>106374407
oh i found him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDtrH2QsbHo
i dont remember the first video i watched(i linked something probably useful) , was probably looking for a detailed step by step of the bios flashback when i got my b450
simple stuff, no bullshit, would score some facking goals for him
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>>106374492
Good guide, I remember linking this video to a friend.
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>>106374449
>>106374458
Anons pay some respect for my Cooler Master 650W PSU that has recently passed away. 2015-2025.
Now what PSU to get now?
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>>106374519
Yeah, rip.
My VS550 hit ten years and I upgraded it before it could die on me
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>>106374519
Seasonic.
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>>106373774
>me
Don't care about that
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>>106374519
650W PSUs are kind of overpriced atm, you can pay like $20 more and get a Montech CENTURY II 850 W (10-year warranty) and use it for your next PC build. Some reviews say the fan for this PSU can run loudly.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sqbypg/montech-century-ii-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-century-ii-850w

I'd also consider be quiet Pure Power 13M, Super Flower Gold PSUs (Leadex III or VII), and one of the Seasonic, like anon suggested.
But Seasonic PSUs tend to be the costliest (12-year warranty on higher-end units).
750W versions are a bit cheaper.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dbRnTW/be-quiet-pure-power-13-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bp027us
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R4RwrH/super-flower-leadex-iii-gold-up-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-850f14ge
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Will a 850w psu be enough for the 5070ti super?
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>>106374654
Probably yes, rumored to have a base 350W power limit. Many AIB models will have higher maximums.
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>>106374535
>>106374563
>>106374647
I'll probably be heading to my local PC store and see what they got after work tomorrow. I'll keep you anons posted. Thanks a lot.
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>>106374726
>>106374726
>>106374726
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>>106369964
Ah yes jensen the same guy who was best buddies with bill gates and Epstein keep your njudea pedo gpu's to yourself sodomite
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>>106370002
>small form factor builds are mental illness
No they are made for certain use cases and they are incredibly hard to build in and you actually have to have some level of intelligence to build in it and build out your build you however are a dumb faggot with a skill issue (not my problem) and need to cope and seethe moar
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>>106375230
change your tampon sis you're overflowing.
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>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Is there any advantage to buying faster RAM and overclocking it these days, particularly with the 9800X3D and 9900X3D?

Did they fix the stability issues in running anything over 6000 on AM5 with the new X870 or X870E boards?

I'm fairly convinced there is no reason whatsoever to get an X870E over the X870 unless you're loading it up with peripherals, and of course most of the X870E boards have only 2 PCIe slots.... I just saw the NZXT N9 which offers the suckers who buy it 1x PCIe 5.0 and 1x .... PCIe 3.0 slot (roflmao). Holy shitballs. Am I missing something? X870E seems like a total scam.
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>>106370396
Have you found better temperature drops with your custom loops over AIOs?
What brand of custom loop components are you using and with which CPU?
The first time I went water cooled and did a H100i on a 4770K was amazing. Even 360mm triple fan AIOs just don't seem to do as much anymore with the higher power draw CPUs demand these days.
>>106371051
I need this "noodle stopper" with her tits as a GPU support bracket for my 5080.
>>106373731
>daniel owen
I was wondering why my jewdar was going off with this faggot.
>>106375602
>x870E manufacturers defeating the purpose of having dual 21 promontory chips
Or Asus including USB 2.0 headers on the ProArt X870E-Creator.
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>>106370644
>>By the way, create a mpv.conf file and write this line: vo=gpu-next

Thanks for the tips. Why do you recommend this though?



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