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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards. Issues still reported & latest BIOS doesn't protect new CPUs.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, 5060Ti 16GB, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/
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is this schizo right?
>>106371873
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So let's assume I'm going for a 5070ti (will be replaced with the super model later) and a 9800x3d. Let's assume I'd aggressively overclock. How much psu would i need for it to remain quiet and handle the load efficiently?
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7500f + 5060 ti
or
7800x3d + 3060 12gb

what do you think?
hardware is expensive af here

i press the budget for good monitor
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>>106374765
AMD could create an alternative to CUDA if they weren't stupid
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>>106374726
What's the cat doin?
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>>106374765
Not NVIDIA's fault that they went all-in with programmable GPU shaders back in the 2000s.
CUDA was developed and marketed by a private company, and the US economy isn't a socialist market.
NVIDIA almost went out of business because they were heavily investing in CUDA when the tech industry didn't know what to do with it.
Can't say NVIDIA needs to socialize the profits now when NVIDIA took all that risk.
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>>106374803
If you're just playing vidya, the first combo (5060ti) is much better (ASSUMING 16GB VRAM 5060TI) for gaming.

The 7800x3d would be a killer choice for a cpu if you're going to get a better gpu later
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>>106374803
Is it the 16GB 5060Ti? Then it's the better choice.
I would also check prices for the 9060 XT 16GB.
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>>106374852
>>106374869
Yeah 5060 ti 16gb

Mostly play online games on steam
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>>106374903
Buy a reliable motherboard for that 7500F if you're getting the tray/OEM, it doesn't necessarily have to be expensive.
AMD won't provide replacement CPUs if you buy tray/OEM versions.
PC builders are the ones who need to provide hardware warranty on tray/OEM CPUs.
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Vram is not as important as the chipset, we should get more than 8gb but 16gb is enough for gayming
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>>106374935
It just feels frustrating to deal with fucking vram shortages of all things with the gpus people want to buy for affordable compute levels

several 3rd parties make vram, just, fucking put it in
fuck offff
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>>106374804
AMD did but the market has already been captured by Nvidia, most of their customers are the 5% who don't fall into the CUDA usecase.
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Undervolting has no downsides right
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>>106374923
thx dude
msi b850-p is good enough?
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>>106374935
12gb should have been the minimum last gen, AMD and Nvidia are taking the piss with 8gb... Intel is the only company that's adequately segmenting their VRAM which is sad because they've only got the one product.
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>>106374765
His intentions are correct. We should, as consumers, act in our own best interest to stop getting skimped by AMD and Nvidia. Nvidia and AMD have a duopoly on the gpu market and conspire with board/pcb manufacturers to force you to go up a product class if you want more VRAM, even if you don't need the higher gpu performance.

VRAM mods have been done before, and you can pay people to do it for you, but it would be more convenient for us if graphics cards became modular. The tech is out there already, and the markets could be forced to adapt to start selling them if the U.S. government sets up such an arrangement between the board/pcb manufacturers (TSMC, Samsung, etc) and the gpu/gpu die manufacturers (Nvidia and AMD).

All the crap about cuda is a retarded red herring that has nothing to do with Nvidia charging $300+ dollars for 8GB gpus in 2025
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>>106374960
Worst case, the system will crash (CPU) or the display driver will (GPU).
You’re setting the processor to use voltage than what it’s programmed.

>>106374962
It should be safe, update the board BIOS to the latest stable version before you install the chip (Flash BIOS button option, pg 58 in manual).
https://download-2.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/PROB850-PWIFI_English.pdf
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>Intel making dual gpu with 48gb of vram
>public release unlikely

We are so close to being back
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Are there any good options out there for a case that can support a lot of hard drives that is also aesthetic? My daily computer is a Fractal Node 804 I originally used as a home server to remote to but then threw a better GPU and CPU into once I wasn't spending so much time away from home. I have 2 SSDs and 5 HDDs in here with room for three more HDDs but I've been enchanted by all of these mid-century-modern wooden accented cases but none of the ones I've looked into seem to have room for a lot of storage. Aside from just wanting a nicer looking case, I'm also looking at these because I need something with better airflow. My Ryzen 9 5950x gets ungodly hot and I've tried both aircooling and watercooling (air turned out better temps but not by much) and I figure the root problem is the case just has bad airflow, even with me juryrigging extra fans I've got held in place with rubber bands.
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>>106375039
hard drives are going enterprise only, either shell out for a larger disk or accept the SSD.
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>>106375053
Aren't sata drives better in every way?
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>>106375018
So undervolting doesn't cause damage to the hardware if done aggressively? And neither does it void the warranty?
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>>106375053
>larger
These are all 12-14 terabyte drives.
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>>106375074
move them to a NAS.
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>>106375039
phanteks enthoo series, not sure if silverstone have any modern case
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>>106375072
Undervolting won’t harm the hardware, but set a lower power limit if you’re concerned with low voltage + high current scenarios.
Undervolting is technically overclocking (you’re setting the processor to boost higher using less voltage than intended), I would say it’s breaking the warranty.
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>>106375072
No. It doesn't cause damage. If you're undervolting too hard, your system will just crash or be unstable.

It can possibly void warranties, but if you reset the bios settings by using the CMOS battery, they'll have a pretty hard time saying you did fuck all with it.
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>>106375105
Not really in the aesthetic ballpark I was looking for, but it's go in my watchlist. Thanks.
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Computers are kind of silly when you really think about it.
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>>106374726
You do have a 5090 by now, right?
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>>106375039
possibly the corsair graphite series 760T or 780T, i have a 760T and it was decent for its time, but i live in ausfailia and im way too lazy to figure out how to ship it even if you were to buy it, its discontinued everywhere.

just look for decent server towers they'll accomodate physical HDDs if you're desperate to keep your physicals. I'd just go full ssds personally tho.
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>>106375255
yeah
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My PSU fans suddenly started spinning after 6 months. Should I be worried?
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>>106375273
the corsair 9000D series can accommodate a heap of physical drives inside it, it looks great. Big problem though, its crazy expensive.

>>106375290
was this after a bios update on your mobo, or you installed a driver for your psu, like corsairs ique?
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>>106375039
Antek P101 if you want a simple budget case, but the airflow looks like ass.
i hate to use r*ddit, but there's an entire thread for this exact question, just go there.
www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1f2aw6d/list_of_computer_cases_with_lots_of_hard_drive
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>>106375290
yes
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>>106375273
>>106375294
>>106375310
I don't care about browsing redshit for information or content, there just isn't any good discussion to be had there. Thanks.
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>>106375343
the thread has a massive list of cases that are currently for sale with large physical drive slots, you just click the link and scroll down genius. Pick one you like, you realise that the one good thing about r*ddit is its tech support section is largely the best on the internet right?
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>>106375255
No I have two
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>>106374996
cuda is why nvidia is better for ai
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>>106375360
After posting I realized I worded that poorly and it could be misconstrued. I meant I don't care as "I don't mind." I check reddit for plenty of things, mostly porn or trying to figure out some tech problem/gaming thing, I just don't bother participating in any discussions because it'll be shit.
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>>106374812
why do you want everything to cost too much?
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>>106374946
amd didn't make a cuda clone surely
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My current build is a 5700X3D CPU with a Asus prime B550M-K MB, RTX4080, 32Gb of DDR4 memory
I don't remember what PSU I got, but I remember having some headroom left for my 4080

If I want to upgrade to AM5, maybe an M.2 SSD finally, what am I looking at, any recs?
I'll need the CPU itself, a MB, the M.2SSD, and DDR5 ram, yeah?
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>>106375483
imo upgrade the mobo.

I'm a big fan of 5xxx.

make a full new system and keep that 5xxx rockin.
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>>106375498
I don't think I can justify anymore investment on the AM4 platform at this point, but that's just me.
I want to move to AM5, but that requires the whole deal.
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>>106375483
>>106375509
without upgrading to a better GPU theres no need to move from the 5700X3D
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>>106375509
depends on your goals

prices double again for am6 and the gtx 6090 is $6k street.

might want long lasting silicon

watch for am4 sales

two [pcs] is one [pc] and one [pc] is none.

(Yeager, it was guns he was talking about. got fame for threatening Obama on yt. prodigy honestly)
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>>106375483
waste of money
wait for am6 in 2028
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Damn.
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>>106375556
waste of money
wait for am7 in 2034
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>>106375587
waste of money wait for AM8 in 2042
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>>106375587
okay launch up cp run the bench now and after investing 600$ on am5, whats the fps difference from that guys current system
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>>106375546
Well, what's a better AM4 motherboard then?
I'll take something that finally lets me use the front USB type C port on my case, since my current one doesn't have a connector for it, and an M.2 SSD...
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>>106374903
dude for fucks sake, buy a 9060xt 16GB its cheaper and better
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>>106375595
the B550M-K has two m.2 slots
get one of these if you want USB-C and get a 20 pin to pin usb 2.0 if you still want to use the other ports. for like $20
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>>106375587
waste of money , go impregnate a greaser and get lost by becoming a mercenary
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>>106375255
The only game I would use it for is the ARK remaster and it can't even run that native. No upscaling, no frame gen, not even 1440p at 60fps minimum, let alone 4K. Meanwhile almost all other games it's fine doing 4K max settings, native, at around 60fps or a bit better.
Unreal Engine 5 is so fucking shit, man :/
Why did my favorite dinosaur/creature taming autismo game have to be on one of the worst fucking engines? And of course, the original game is basically dead now after that last moneygrab anniversary patch killed off mods, so I can't even play it.
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>>106375595
nta but do you need anything else beyond front panel USB-C? Upgrading the whole, 5-year-old, motherboard for a single piece of IO seems silly. You can get PCIe cards with a type-C header for <$30.

As for NVMe drives, there's the SN770, SN7100, and NM790 at $120 for 2TB right now.
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>>106375671
Not really, I have a really messy Drive setup, but that's kind of it
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>>106375678
Go ahead and consolidate your storage then. The drives I mentioned are strong but if you've got multiple ≤1TB HDDs you may also want to grab a big one (or two for RAID) to declutter.
Your motherboard is kind of cheap, especially considering the rest of your build, but if it works and does everything you need there's little reason to upgrade it. Especially as that basically means rebuilding the PC and potentially reactivating Windows.
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>install RX 9070 XT into B450 motherboard
>RGB shit on the card lights up, system boots to OS normally, but there's no display even in the BIOS
>try a different slot, reset CMOS, set the PCI speed to manual instead of auto, disable compatibility mode, enable above 4G decoding
>no change
What the hell am I doing wrong here? Is this a power thing? Basically the only thing I haven't tried yet is replacing the PCIe power cables, and the ones I've been using are new.
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>>106375736
>PCIe power cables
its possible you used wrong cables if they're 3rd party instead of the ones the psu came with
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>>106375736
try a different display cable/port
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>>106375736
>the ones I've been using are new.
elaborate
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>>106374726
Imagine paying for housefire lmao
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>>106375753
the 12VHPWR connector is so apple
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Is this fine for gaming?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t82GZc
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>>106375777
it will in fact play games
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>>106375784
Thanks bwo.
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>>106375777
yeah it'll work
some things to consider can be upgrading gpu to 5070 for nvidia features
microatx board is generally pointless unless doing a small case as larger boards are more functional

ips monitor is fine for low end, then theres more expensive va miniled/oled options KTC M27T6 is an option with a bit slower pixel response times but much better contrast and option to do hdr.
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>>106375671
I think I'll grab the 1TB variant of NM790 for the OS, Thinking of grabbing a 2TB one for the faster M.2 slot on my motherboard, for games and maybe storage, what drives do you recommend for that.
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>>106375791
>some things to consider can be upgrading gpu to 5070 for nvidia features
give it a rest
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>>106375802
Im not going to stop recommending best value hardware just because you were abused as a child.
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>>106375745
>>106375750
The PSU actually didn't come with any. The two cables I'm using are pic related, which doesn't mention any compatibility issues and both ends connect just fine with no obvious physical issues.

>>106375749
I tried both DP ports with the cable that works on the GPU I'm trying to replace, no change there either. I don't have any devices that use HDMI, I might have to get an adapter and test that.
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>>106375791
Thanks bwo, can you recomment another board?
I'm fine with no nvidia and those monitor options are too expensive for me (burn in on oled too).
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>>106375807
trying to upsell someone to your employers product, kill yourself.
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>>106375814
the boards depend on whats cheap in local stores
as long as theres wifi and its not asus I suppose any am5 atx mobo will be fine
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>>106375796
First off I would recommend using the faster (CPU) M.2 slot for your OS. More for the lower latency than the higher bandwidth (client applications don't scale off bandwidth). It won't make a huge difference but there's no reason not to.
For game/media storage you can get away with a cheaper QLC model since durability and write speeds are less of a concern. One of the models in pic rel would be fine though you are only saving $20 vs. the original three. IDK if that's relevant to your total budget but it's there.
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>>106375810
>The PSU actually didn't come with any
anon...
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>>106375810
just because it works with your old gpu doesnt mean its not a problem. try a different cable
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>>106375753
? Its fully balanced
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>>106375810
hopefully you haven't zapped your 9070XT. Cable pinouts aren't universal, even between models from the same manufacturer it might be different.
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>>106375881
they really oughta standardize the pin layouts one of these days
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>>106374726
Don't worry about budget. Australia.

>CPU
Likely getting 9900X3D but can be persuaded into 9800X3D (it's like $100-150au more here for the 9900X3D)
>GPU
Have an RTX 5080, keeping it.
>PSU
Have AX860, keeping it.
>RAM
>OP recommendation was:
>DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD)
Have the stability issues been fixed for anything over 6000 clock speeds on AM5 with the X870 or X870E chipset mobos?
Is it worth getting say:
G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 48GB (2x 24GB) DDR5 6400MT/S CL32 AMD
as it has AMD EXPO certification. I figure more likely to get the stated 6400 out of it and if not, 6000 MHz should be stable.

>mobo
ATX or other
Unsure if this is possible but would like to support:
2x Samsung 9100 M.2 drives (a system and a gaming drive)
a THIRD M.2 drive for a Linux boot (doesn't have to be the fastest but would prefer if it was).
I know plugging in all of these M.2 drives can downgrade PCIe 5.0 lanes on some boards.

NEED:
minimum 8 USB headers (6 rear 2 front)
4x SATA ports, can live with 2x SATA if i can have:
An expansion slot for say a SATA expansion card.
Ethernet - 2.5 Gb or better is fine
Wifi - would be nice

Everything I have looked at, especially the X870E chipsets all compromise, like giving 1x PCIe 5.0 for the GPU and a 1x PCIe 4.0 (or even 3.0 on the NZXT N9) which just seems like a joke. Asus boards seem overpriced, but I'm willing to go there if this solves the problem, but they also don't seem fully optioned in terms of PCIe slots. Similar story with the X870 chipsets in the Asus range.
Overclocking / undervolting support preferred.

>Cooling:
would like recommendations on AIOs or custom loop. Would prefer to keep the CPU as cool as possible but would like a cheap option.
I presently run a H150i elite cappelix triple fan on my 5900X and was unimpressed with it's cooling capacity but that is likely due to the power draw of these newer chips.
I'm thinking that it's unwise to re-use this cooler given its age (May 2021 purchase)
TIA.
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>>106375935
>9900X3D
paying more for it than a 9800X3D is getting scammed
>over 6000 clock
you might be able to do 1:1 6400 with extra voltage, but save your time and just do the standard 6000c30
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>>106375935
9800x3d is better for gaming since all 8 cores are on a single core complex. 9900x3d has its core split into 6 cores with vcache and 6 without vcache and games will only use the former ccx.

>6400 CL32
thats dependant on silicon quality. your 9000 series cpu may be able to run 6400 without breaking a sweat or it may need near the upper range of allowed vsoc to run 6000. its random

>3 nvme, 8 USB, 4x sata
most any b850 with three x4 slot will do. lane sharing is terrible on x870 but not b850 due to the lack of mandatory usb4 on b850.

>cooling
probably an arctic liquid freezer 3 pro 360mm (or 420mm if your case has the space for it). the included fans are really good and the radiator has slightly more capacity than other aios
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>>106375593
>AM8 in 2042
Yeah these are the new quantum chipsets. Will be good.
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>>106375968
I hope it pleases my AI overseer that I am working harder to afford the upgrade.
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>>106376091
Every PSU manufacturer has their own standard
They won't want to switch to someone else's standard
Maybe after the EU is done reading everyones chat logs they'll get on it
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>>106376110
>Every PSU manufacturer has their own standard
Is it a standard if they can arbitrarily change it at will for every psu they release
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>>106376122
+1 standard
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>>106376122
Corsair reuses their standards across different psus
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>>106376110
super flower has 2 standards, see their 9pin connectors and the regular connectors
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You guys have opened my eyes to custom loops and all I wanna say is fuck you
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>>106375736
try ctrl+alt+del after starting it (some kind of reset after power on). also try hdmi, could be some displayport initialization fuckery
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>>106375753
This is a 9070XT and it has two 8 pin connectors.
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>>106376723
that's so weird. are you sure it's XT?
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>>106376452
they're cool but basically the definition of diminishing returns which is why AIOs exist.

>>106376723
as do most, Asrock wanted to be different and increase their warranty risk.
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Am I overthinking my monitor purchase? Surely any random 1440p165/180 IPS from a reputable monitor brand will be on par if not better in colors, IPS bleed, and image quality than my ancient Acer 1080p60 IPS.
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>>106376753
get longest warranty for same money
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>>106376761
24 months is standard for my cunt
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>>106376753
check out monitors unboxed budget recommendations for more assurance
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>>106376753
If you have to ask the question, yes. Acer are dogshit and have a scammy warranty dept, avoid.

A nice cheap VA 1440p ultrawide is the easiest and biggest upgrade for you money.
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>>106376773
>VA
ew
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>>106376770
got mine for 5 years or so and I'm not upgrading anytime soon
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>>106376786
VA doesnt have bad angles like IPS does, when using an ultrawide its kinda important that you don't have to be afraid of tilting or turning your head wrong when using it.
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>>106376772
I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel with sub-200eur models like the Samsung G5 G50D. That's the best rated one on review sites at like 7.1/10, with the main complaint being the IPS backlight bleed and black uniformity, which seem like the classic IPS quirks, not anything specific to the model. Right?
>>106376797
No monitor I've ever used has died on its own, some are 15+ years old, one was 20+ years old (Samsung 1280x1024 flat LCD) when it died from my brother stabbing it with a pen.
My current Acer I've had since 2018 and it's as good as new, if all you need from a display is 1080p.
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>>106376732
Yes and any future gpu that has a melting risk wont be bought by me. They had 1 fucking job and I cant be assed with it.

I also disable resizable bar since it stutters, what a bitch
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>>106376801
>ultrawide
there's your problem
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>>106376805
all ips panels have horrible looking contrast when displaying dark content but I guess theres glow with the corners depending on QA and how cheap they make em
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>>106376807
maybe some shit power limit 300W?
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>buy two arms for two 27" monitors
>both rated for 18 lbs, one monitor is 12 lbs, the other 9
>first time using an arm or vesa mount so it's slow going
>get both mounted and try to adjust them back to my previous angle setup
>left is fine, right has a slight but persistent forward tilt
>after two straight hours of fucking with the tension, adjusting the tightness, adjusting the four mounting screws in every possible order, and completely unmounting then remounting, 9 now no longer has a tilt but i'm still terrified of touching it because it'll probably loosen up again somehow
>adjust them a little again
>left now has a slight but persistent forward tilt
45 minutes later and nothing has fixed it and it's past 5 AM and i don't have the willpower to do more tonight
are these things always this frustrating
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>>106376801
>VA doesnt have bad angles like IPS does
You're confused on something I think.
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>>106376822
sleep on it and fiddle with it tomorrow, it will probably just werk and you'll have it sorted after ten minutes because that's how those things go when you're tired.
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Will Intel ever recover, bros?
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>>106376820
Its just that gaymes want to transfer 2 GB inbetween 1 frame and it fucks up the frame pacing. Rebar off keeps the retardation at bay
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>>106376801
on the contrary, IPS has very good angles. still dumb to get ultrawide. don't care about bleed and shit, I never think about it, only when someone mentions it. IPS is a nice perk these days cost went down
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>>106376839
no I meant about the two connector choice. why else would they use two instead of three?
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What is the idle power draw on the 9800x3d
I never turn off my computer
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>>106376857
not great
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>>106376849
Because 2 is enough???? Why would you need 3?
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>>106376857
like 35W for mine
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>>106376835
yeah, they've just got to copy AMD but cheaper. AMD hasn't changed the layout since Zen2 and are going to SoC for Zen6. Intel went SoC first and overcomplicated the design with too many tiles but if they just went with an IOD that did everything but compute then it wouldn't have had the inter-tile latency delay that killed performance. They also need to get their nodes working so they don't have to rely on TSMC to compete.
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>>106374726
>Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
with only 28 PCIe lanes? I don't think so.
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>>106376933
but muh coars
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>>106376872
because they're rated for 150W? those are 8pin connectors right?
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>>106376869
the difference is intel keeps all the power saving shit enabled when you use XMP
disable "soc/uncore OC mode", set "power supply idle control" to "low current idle", enable "global C-state control"
should bring ryzen down a little bit

i will never understand why people care about idle power on desktops
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>>106376773
>mfw 32inch 1440p
Well I already know I don't fit in anywhere in general.
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I want to build a modular water-cooling system that I can attach different workstations/pcs/room cooling devices to.
In essence just a big radiator with a bunch of fans or something similar that I can run my loop through to cool my pc and workstations now and also far into the future.
Never done water cooling before, but I figured why go small when you can go big, so I have no prior experience beyond just building a pc and not being retarded (which might be arguable).
Now for my questions:
1. Does the pump matter? As in, since the bulk of it will not be sitting in the pc case, can I just get a really quiet, but efficient and powerful pump to move water around faster, or does it not matter/do diminishing returns kick in?
2. What budget am I looking at for a project like this? Assuming all the parts are expected to last for somewhere in the ball park of 10 years until serious replacement/repairs are needed.
3. Are there devices that you can hook up to the loop that you can use to make the ambient air cooler?
>country
germany
>budget
idk, normal people budget, I want to know first and foremost how expensive it is first.
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>>106376933
blame motherboard vendors for not making use of them, the only vendor that has even tried is Asus when they couldn't figure out how to fit the second chipset onto an ITX board.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-rog-x670e-i-has-a-unique-design

AMD has Prom21 stacked together like Lego in the lab
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>nvidia cpus when?
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Do AMD gpus shit the bed for workstations because Nvidia has the industry in a chokehold with CUDA, or because AMD gpus just suck massive cock and people don't want to adjust their software for their architecture?
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>>106376998
the PCIE slot also provides up to 70W, 2 is more than enough for a 9070XT

>>106377062
just get an AIO. water-cooling is not cheap, nor does it offer much better performance than an AIO. its diminishing returns, the hobby.
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>>106377085
when the AI bubble bursts
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>>106377100
Checked. Am also interested of this matter
Afaik both although they're making some progress with ROCm
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>>106374726
Just imagine all these dust, fingerprints and scratches on this case...
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>>106377100
AMD hardware is arguably better than what Nvidia is offering, but CUDA has an off the shelf ecosystem going back 20 years for most compute tasks. AMD customers tend to be good engineers who realized that they're one of the fringe cases where Nvidia didn't have an off the shelf solution and they have to start from scratch anyway so might as well get the cheaper option.
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>>106377119
>up to
also proof it uses it for anything other than low power rails?
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>>106376835
No, int/cel-aviv is done. It won't survive without american money. Good riddance!
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>>106377119
I want things to run quiet though, not just faint white noise, but rubber room tier quiet, especially during load and during summer.
I had an AIO for a while, but the pump was pretty annoying and because the radiator could only fit two fans, the cooling was shit too.
I'm talking about a massive radiator + fans setup that I buy once and then just use that for 10+ years.
Also I have more than one pc, so I don't want to buy multiple overpriced AIOs
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>>106377161
>AMD hardware is arguably better than what Nvidia is offering
like how?
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>>106377166
did you forget that entire GPUs used to be powered entirely by the pcie slot? its 12V 5.83A
the connectors are also rated UP TO 150W, the PSU isn't blasting 13A at all times into the GPU that isn't how it works.
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>>106377190
Well, you need MORA then.
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>>106377208
dude, have you even seen a 9070XT PCB? they have filtering at connectors. whatever comes on the PCIe rail has some shit buck converter that feeds some shit rails, it's not dealing with a lot of current.
and yes, PSU is feeding max power when GPU is under load. there's literal power monitors that you can install on your 8pin connectors and see how much power it draws, and it matches for GPU reported power. PCIe feeds low power shit. doubt it feeds even the fans or smth, prolly some display related shit
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>>106377203
Cheaper transistor/$
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>>106377240 me
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-9070-xt-mercury-oc-magnetic-air/images/front_full.jpg
compare the huge inductors next to power connectors, to whatever the shit is lower left at PCIe connector, there's some shit there but very low power shit. like one LC filter then two buck converters, 5V and 3.3V most likely for whatever bullshit
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>>106377244
How is that better? I meant, if pricing wasn't a factor, what does AMD offer that Nvidia doesn't?
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>>106377203
they offer more silicon for cheaper in enterprise, its just not as easy to set up. the B200 for example does 20petaflops in FP4 which was Nvidia catching up to the AMD MI350X's 18.5petaflops in FP4, the MI355X does 20.1petaflops in FP4 for a fraction of the price of the B200.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cm6gAcoVRI
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>>106377244
okay but how does that translate to performance
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>>106377284
the MI355X costs 12K, the B200 costs 50K.
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>>106377237
yeah, I briefly looked into them, and from what I've heard they're the best you can buy, as a consumer anyway. Are there cheaper alternatives with comparable quality?
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>>106377286
You get more bang for buck regardless
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>>106377301
what if im using blender
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>>106377316
nvidia
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>>106377300
Bykski makes big radiator too. And I bet it has better quality than "german" alphacool made in china (for 300$).
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>>106377365
that's pretty fucking dumb, I can get a second hand car radiator, with fan, for less than $50
these things are a scam
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>>106377439
Dude, water-cooling is for rich people only.
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>want to upgrade to AM5 mobo
>upgrading means i'll have to ditch and rebuy a lot of other things too
>other option is upgrading my RAM from 16 to 32GB
>can't tell if it's a good enough idea if I ever plan on upgrading my mobo
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>>106377296
And if pricing wasn't a factor, what does AMD offer that Nvidia doesn't?
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>>106377470
More transistors, period
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>>106377463
got 64gb on my b550 and couldn't be happier. cozy waiting am6
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>>106377481
>he doesn't have 128gb
ngmi
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>>106377492
I actually was considering it and got close to it but said nah, no real use. but 64 is just right for my needs
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>>106377481
damn i also have a b550 but a 550m pro. when did you buy the RAM, recently?
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>>106377539
two or three months ago I think.
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>>106377365
shipping will probably fuck me though + alphacool is like half the price. I've never heard anything bad about them, does their stuff break often?
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>>106377463
maybe you should have listened for the past three years when we told you to buy cheap DDR4 while its still cheap because 16gb wasn't enough system ram for the forseeable future.
unless you're on a 5700X3D just bite the bullet for AM5
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Only real chuddhas will understand that having fun with a vidjagoyme isn't all about max graphics 4K120, it's about having enough visual clarity to enjoy the artistic vision while also being playable, so 1440p60 at like medium.
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>>106377759
1440p 120-144fps is just right.
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>>106377771
Anything more than 60 in a cinematic game is wasted. Same with competitive games where anything over 1080p low is wasted because you want 420 FPS.
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>>106377774
you can still feel it when moving around. over 100 is nice. 60 to 80 is bearable but ideally over 100
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>>106377771
>>106377774
>>106377791
Remember 360 and PS3 gen?

All games were 720p, had like zero anti aliasing, post processing out the ass to cover shitty textures and anisotropy, unstable framerate, and screen tearing.

Halo 3 on the Xbox 360 natively rendered at a resolution of 1152x640

Reach 1152x720 resolution of the Xbox 360

Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 renders at a resolution of 960x540

Dark Souls on Xbox or PS3, runs at 1024x720 resolution

Resident Evil 5 runs at 25fps

Never forget Dark Souls 2 being downgraded to run on PS3/360

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59eLW1IGUCU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYFiw5_58Lk
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>>106377671
yeah well i didn't. can't change the past now can i?
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>>106377463
>>106377481
>>106377819
what are your specs bro
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>>106377798
back then you would have said 60fps is nicer than 30fps no doubt. that's how it goes, but won't go forever since 30 -> 60 is really fucking noticeable, 60-80 is , 80-100 at times, 100-144 good range doesn't matter for most shit apart from esports or whatever
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>>106377798
I played them on PC a few years after the fact, on a GT630 of all things, at 768p, and I really enjoyed that era of gaming overall. I still love Hitman Absolution more than the reboots.
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>>106377759
Too bad modern devs are too retarded for art styles and just do realism packed with visual noise, blurriness and grey fog.
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>>106377284
>>106377284
nigga cant read gpu-z like retards cant read expo trefi
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>>106377831
All you need is 30fps, 60fps, 120fps, 240fps, 480fps
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>>106377819
what do you think you are going to realistically get if going on AM5 and drop fuckload of cash compared to going 64gb ddr4? after getting tired of running cinebench? what would you say will actually change in your practical experience?
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>>106377854
if you 120fps in anything on max possible settings, 1440p, you are lucky af, everything else is just noise
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>>106377852
In other news, GPU-Z just hit 100,000,000 downloads today.
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Resident Evil 5 is capped at a maximum of 120 FPS

Only run at 25fps on PS3 lol
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I got a Phanteks XT Pro Ultra and the 3 front fans that comes with the case make the most annoying whirr sound no matter how much I change the fan speeds.
I can't really find any video or help if it's possible to replace them, anyone got this fan and replaced the front fans?
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>>106377989
it cant be that complicated, just pop off the front panel
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>>106377922
dev's fault for not knowing how to unleash the power of the cell
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>>106378009
>PS3 used Incells
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>>106377989
if removing the front mesh doesnt fix it then you need to replace the fans with new 120s.
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>am5
So ASUS are niggers and bundle malware vectors with armourycrate. ASSrock kill your CPU. I read somewhere MSI are or did have issues with USB. So what's left, gigabyte?
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So what's a good AM5 motherboard? I'm getting a 9800X3D and I'm looking around. All the OP says is to avoid Asrock but is there anything in particular recommended?
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Best CPU deal in the USA atm, includes codes for BF6 and the new AC.
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-14th-gen-core-i5-14600k-raptor-lake-lga-1700-desktop-cpu-processor/p/N82E16819118470?Item=N82E16819118470
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6MYCRV
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>>106378329
it is objectively a good deal if you can sell off the bf6 key
however, its intel so I'll stick with my 5600x
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>5600x
lol
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>Day5 waiting on G80SD delivery
Package has not moved on tracking app the entire day
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>>106378311
Premium asus boards have driver hub which isn't as bad but still an attack vector. You can turn off the attempted installation via BIOS for either but it will reset with each update or use Linux.
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>>106378345
It's the best value for money CPU deal available today, excluding those game bundles.
>Muh degradation.
Stock boost caps @ 5.3GHz, and it doesn't have access to the i9 exclusive eTVB that allows it to push +100~200MHz higher.
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>>106378329
I don't want the games.
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>>106378328
>So what's a good AM5 motherboard? I'm getting a 9800X3D and I'm looking around. All the OP says is to avoid Asrock but is there anything in particular recommended?

MSI MEG X870E GODLIKE
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>>106378397
wtf no
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>>106378328
Get a B850 board if you don't need USB4, the B850 Strix-A is on sale in the US atm.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/d4CCmG/asus-rog-strix-b850-a-gaming-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-rog-strix-b850-a-gaming-wifi

Alternatives. You can buy cheaper boards if you want to value-max.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VtJBD3/gigabyte-b850-aorus-elite-wifi7-ice-atx-am5-motherboard-b850-aorus-elite-wifi7-ice
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vjpD4D/msi-mag-b850-tomahawk-max-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-mag-b850-tomahawk-max-wifi

Chipset information
https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/chipsets/am5.html
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>>106378397
>MSI MEG X870E GODLIKE

Are there any good reasons to actually buy this?
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>>106378515
posting on the internet and seeing all the people seething about your stupid purchase
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>>106378476
>USB4
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>>106374726
>DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
>2x24GB
Are we already at that point? I mean, I already bought it when I built my newest PC last year, but I thought I had a couple more years before the RAM bloat reached me.
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>>106377989
just measure the length of the fan, check to make sure the cables are standard for fans, then buy literally any popular fan companies fans to replace them. Replacing case fans is not hard. All you need is a medium sized philips-screwdriver and a flashlight.
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>>106375958
Thanks this is very helpful.
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>>106378566
It mostly benefits people who need to use docking stations.
https://www.benq.com/en-us/knowledge-center/knowledge/what-is-usb4-thunderbolt4-usbc.html
https://www.kensington.com/news/docking-connectivity-blog/benefits-of-usb4-technology/
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>>106378578
>Are we already at that point? I mean, I already bought it when I built my newest PC last year, but I thought I had a couple more years before the RAM bloat reached me.

You need 2x128GB
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>>106378578
2x 24GB is a nice middle ground between speed/latency & capacity, and the premium isn't too crazy.
2x 16GB kits still provide the best value, and it's the practical choice for many people.
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>>106378578
nah, 48gb is for those who want to still be using their systems when AM6 comes out.
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>>106377989
Search for cheap fan spacers; it might lessen the noise.
This Noctua spacer isn't cheap, but the page explains the concept very well.
https://noctua.at/en/na-is1-12-sx2
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Why build a pc, when I can just argue with anonymous strangers online about which brand of tech slop will play the newest vidya slop best on modern slop displays? And then do that all over again once every single contingent of that depreciates within like 2 years. All of it inadvertently creating FREE publicity for the companies making them.
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>>106378815
>Why build a pc, when I can just argue with anonymous strangers online
I can't let team red win, this is a battle between good and evil of biblical proportions, you would never understand.
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>hold on babe gotta make a vital pcbg post
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The CPU upgrade for the next-gen consoles will be massive.
The development timeline is in line with the Zen 6 mobile roadmap.
https://www.techpowerup.com/340282/leaked-amd-roadmap-hints-at-zen-6-for-mobile-but-not-until-2027
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>>106378926
yeah AMD doing a version of Zen6 on cheaper N3 specifically for the PS6 and Xbox 5 makes sense.
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>see babe
>I just told him his graphics card is trash, look
>now I will respond to him with a completely made up chart that holds no bearing on real life whatsoever and call him retarded
>see, now he's mad, which will inevitably prompt him to type up some really poorly written response to a post that shouldn't even have warranted a second look
>anyway, wanna get out of here?
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>Read that mobile Zen 6 roadmap
>The chips have NPUs for Copilot™
>Next Xbox will include Copilot™
>Sony will also have their AI data harvester for the PS6.
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>>106379175
but anon, its current zeitgeist so new product must have it, remember 3D TV? remember VR?
this too shall pass.
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>>106378311
MSI has no issues with USB, its just contention with their PCIe lane sharing. It's not even bad.
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>>106377439
Actually it you who's dumb since the auto salvage radiator will be made of aluminium and destroy your build over
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>>106374733
>Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures;
Is this actually worrying or a nothing burger? I was planning to buy a MP600 but according to the list it is vulnerable to this
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why don't they make contrarotating fans for even more airflow
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>>106378926
>lacking Thin OS
LOOOOL
Microsoft admits defeat to Linux
They have no "non bloated" OS
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Imagine still using Windows 11 today like a noob
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I’m autistic about noise. Where do I find benchmarks on db levels for GPUs and coil whine etc

Or which brand has generally more quiet gpus
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>>106378926
>four full Zen 6 cores, four compact Zen 6c cores, two low-power cores,
Jesus fucking christ
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>>106379367
You wouldn't get any more CFM just a different dispersion pattern. Not even necessarily a better one because PC airflow is already well-constrained. I could see it helping in a ducted system but probably not enough to justify the cost/complexity.
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>>106379338
Just don't be a DRAM-less cuck, lol.
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>>106378888
Checked, and literally me
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>>106379471
Laptop apu, clam down. Amd has been hesitant to bring C cores to desktop and desktop doesn't need LP cores.
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>>106379491
Guess I'll have to go for a SN850X then.
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Any advice on flashing BIOS on Gigabyte NVIDIA GPU? It doesn't seem to be actually flashing anything.

I'm looking at support page for my 4070TS and I see that there is F1.1 bios with some "LED fixes", dated 04/28/2024.
Then I open GPU-Z, Advanced, NVIDIA BIOS. I see F1 and 12/05/2023 date there.

To me it looks like I can benefit from this GPU firmware update. I download utility, disable antivirus and all other shit, run EXE as admin, it says "wait, updating firmware" for a while and then "Finished!".

Except nothing fucking changes on GPU-Z BIOS screen before or after reboot. I tried turning off PSU too after using utility, nothing.

I've extracted ROM with GPU-Z before and after using Gigabyte utility and they are identical when compared in WinMerge.
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>>106374726
Mirroring from my thread at /wsr/ since it's appropriate here and lonely there
I'm a ME student about to finish school. Do workplaces force you to use their workstation, or do they mandate(directly or implied) laptops?
I like desktops for
>modularity
>ease of repair
>better parts for cheaper
>thermals
but laptops:
>can move
I'm conflicted. I also use AI as a hobby, want to possibly train one for my brother since he wants a local or trusted AI to analyse cases and help him work through piles of paperwork.
Turkey(bird country) budget is 50K TRY(1200$)
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>>106379471
>>106379530
AMD's compact Zen cores should cause fewer issues than Intel e-cores because the microarchitecture is the same as the big core (lower boost clock & less cache).
ZenC cores support the same instruction sets, including AVX-512.
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>>106379470
techpowerup does gpu noise testing for fans. coil whine is a lottery. it can happen on $3000 gpu or none at all on $200 gpu.
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>>106379546
Use the PC/laptop provided by your employer for all work-related needs.
Use whatever you want for everything else.
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>ASUS RTX 5050 Prime OC
Not for buying, I just want to know what kind of cooler it has (3 heatpipes? 4?)
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>>106379470
I heard coil whine is mostly down to your psu. like is it multirail/single rail and how you plug the cables into your gpu (dual cable, triple cable, all from one cable)
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>>106379583
3 heatpipes at best, it's good enough to cool a 5060 Ti 16GB relatively quietly.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-prime-16-gb/4.html
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>>106379546
There used to be desktops issued as primary and laptop on demand. Now everyone only get laptops.

Don't use company laptop for personal stuff. You can get locked out without a warning and they typically have microsoft online account managed by your organization, disabled USB & RDP etc.

>$1200
I'm not sure if it would fit with "ITX tax" but you could probably assemble compact desktop that fits in backpack, together with keyboard and "mobile" LCD monitor.

Like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p0e4VNYikY

This way if you have to move, you have very mobile company laptop and somewhat mobile personal desktop setup.

I am only suggesting this if "moving often" is even a factor. From every perspective but aesthetics & portability, it is always better to just assemble full-sized ATX/mATX system. It would always be cheaper than ITX.
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More fans more better
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>>106379599
Oh, that's disappointing.

TrashBench showed that a 5050 with a simple 4-heatpipe tower clocked to 3'300MHz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1gf638YMfk

Also RTX 5050 was beating GTX 1080 Ti
at STOCK
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>>106379628
>Also RTX 5050 was beating GTX 1080 Ti
>at STOCK
in games with DLSS & MFG?
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>>106379631
No DLSS/MFG trickery

Even TechPowerUp database has 5050 as 10% faster than 1080 Ti
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>>106379631
>>106379662
>overclocked 5050 results
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>>106379662
KEK I just watched the video. I bet there would be market for LP single-slot versions of 5050.
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>>106379631
it’d absolutely nigger rape if with DLSS a,one the 1080ti is shit now
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>>106376753 (me)
I ordered the Samsung Odyssey G50D. May God have mercy on my soul.
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>>106379564
The problem with E-cores has never been the uarch, that was "solved" early in Alder Lake by intel disabling AVX-512 through microcode after the initial release. It's the performance differential causing scheduling problems. And as far as I know, AMD continues to have no equivalent to Intel's thread director to mitigate it. More power management hacks incoming.
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>Lian Li A3
What's the catch? Too long? It says a huge fuck you to ITX/SSF? Or is it just good entry tier for building something smallers for starters?
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>>106379733
I'd say the catch would be the price/quality ratio for SFX power supplies. I mean the case is CHEAP by comparison.
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>>106379662
>>106379671
Is there anyone here that still uses a 1080ti or other high end Pascal gpu?
How much humiliation and seethe do these images cause in you?
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>>106374726
I really like those golden rgbs. What brand are they? It makes the PC look almost art deco. I gotta know the name, anybody know the name?
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>>106379886
You'd THINK a 50-class GPU can beat an 80ti-class GPU from 5 generations ago. It's been damn near a decade.
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>>106379886
I sold 1060 6G last month. It was a good run.
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>>106378329
I can buy it for sub 150€ on sale here now
Feels like near free when you consider pricing on higher end CPUs now
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>>106379886
they’re in denial about it, I saw one nigger say the 1080ti beat the 5070
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>>106379897
Most likely Lian Li Uni Fan.
https://lian-li.com/product-category/cooling/fans/
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>external SSD thermal throttles down to 10% of initial speed transferring ~30GB of OBS recordings
i am the whole circus
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>>106377119
9070 XT has 600W spikes.
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>>106380079
Spikes aren't really relevant to connector thermal design. Obviously you want some margin, which 8-pin Mini-Fit has in spades, but 600W for 1ms isn't going to melt anything; it's less than a joule.
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>>106377070
Precisely, which makes building these suspend useless and pointless.
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>>106380079
hwinfo64 or any software cannot record transient spikes. it happens so fast that its within nanoseconds and software polling is 3s because anything less would just rape your performance.
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>>106380079
check out mr oscilloscope here you got pictures?
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>>106378329
Can u sell the game key? Probably still won't be good though will lose fps compared to x3d or tuned 14900k
Probably not worth it you want max perf still
Don't know how much a 14600k tunes
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>>106378329
same deal in sweden, no clue how good the processor is though lol
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>>106380460
I believe there's a hardware check, the game code only works for CPUs listed in the promotion.
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>>106380511
Fine for gaming, you can OC it with an AIO to nearly match a 14900K/13900K (realistically 5.5~5.6GHz P-core, 5.7GHz or better if you're a good tuner).
Zen 5 X3D chips are better, but they don't go on sale for $150.
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>>106380553
>4080
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>>106380460
>>106380553
>>106380706
You can actually get a tuned i5 to outperform the stock i9s in a lot of games.
Probably not in BF6 since last I heard it actually scaled with high core count, but still you aren't going to do better for $200 or under.
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for huge amounts of excel work, should my mom get ryzen ai 9 375hx with 32gb ram or r9 8945hs with 64gb ram? obviously the 375hx is way better but is the ram worth it?
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>>106380770
buy her copilot premium and let her feed it the tables to process
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I can probably get a Sound Blaster Z for $60. Does anyone know if this is good? My mobo is the tomahawk x670e and uses the Realtek ALC4080 code.
>You don't need a dedicated soundcard
I want a dedicated soundcard because I am a retard (audiophile)
>why not get a usb DAC?
I am a boomer who yearns for the days of XP where you had a PCI sound card
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>>106376723
i think thats a swift
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>>106380800
It's fine. Audibly transparent DAC components are <$10 nowadays and I'm sure the headphone amp can handle anything under 600Ω.
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>>106380800
Your GPU has way better audio and it's PCIE.
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>>106380770
>excel
go buy the cheapest and look up for copilot as anon said
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Thoughts on tech reviews fat jesus? Seems like the only guy with integrity in a field of shills
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>>106380925
This.
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>>106380800
It's good if youre trying to fix latency issues, I just got one for that. GPU audio may or may not give latency issues with crackling
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>>106380943
His videos are too long now. Its between a episode of Seinfeld to Lord of the Rings in length.
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>>106381060
The perfect YouTube video length is a whole Aqua Teen episode.
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>>106380800
why the fuck wouldn't you just get an audio interface? they're probably older than those pcie cards too if larping as a "boomer" is your thing
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>>106380925
your GPU has digital audio
the quality depends on the DAC in your monitor
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>>106380800
>I want a dedicated soundcard because I am a retard (audiophile)
Then you'd get an external device and connect it either via toslink or USB (I don't know if you can directly connect to a Roon ready DAC with a lan cable). Those cards are better than what you get on your mobo but nothing compared to a proper external DAC.
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Greetings, PC builders
So, should I worry about a paired Ryzen 7000 with a B850 ASRock board? Those reports about burnt chips are mostly of 9000X3D against their mobos, right?
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>>106376933
explain, im retarded and i was gonna buy a 9950x3d for productivity and gayming
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>>106378397
come on nigga, the godlike is barely any better than the x870e Tomahawk but for 1000 dollars more
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>>106381091
I don't know about Nvidia but AMD literally has a media engine inside their core that powers audio and video. The marketing name is "radiant display engine" or "AMD true audio".
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>>106381160
Keep the BIOS updated, it's less likely to happen on Ryzen 7000 CPUs.
ASRock claims they followed AMD's specs for PBO-related power settings, and AMD execs are saying ASRock fucked it up.
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>>106381322
HDMI and DP audio is always digital
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team red , i want to buy an XFX 9070XT , according to the HU's round up vid and i dont know which one should i go for in here we have mercenary quicksilver and swift but somehow price wise mercenary > swift > quicksilver , i know both the quick and mercenary are chonky cool cards but which one should i go for ? merc is 80usd more expensive than the quicksilver
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>>106380033
It's not throttling, it just filled up its pseudo-SLC cache and is now writing directly to TLC (or QLC, I don't know your drive). All modern SSDs work this way with long sustained writes. Yours just has especially slow flash.
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>>106381235
"Workstation" is a really fuzzy term. Plenty of real (paid) work gets done on Mac Minis and $300 Walmart laptops. Whether you need the enhanced PCIe capabilities of server/HEDT platforms depends on your specific workload. What do you do? Perhaps more importantly, do you do enough of it to where it's worth spending $5000+ on the PC?
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I'm a complete moron when it comes to memory timings, why does the OP guide signify 6400mhz CL32 for Intel as opposed to 6000 CL30 for AMD?
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>>106381365
blaming PBO was always a cop out lol you have to struggle to get a 9800X3D to hit the stock power limit
seems more and more likely that these boards are just badly designed
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>>106381464
Quicksilver sounds like the best value for you.
XFX used to make louder cards, but they improved with these RX 9000 models.
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>>106381500
Intel has no issues running higher speed ram. AMD is limited by the memory controller/Mobo. 6000cl30 should just work on any AMD machine.
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>>106381500
Because AMD memory controllers are kneecapped by the infinity fabric so frequency is less important than latency. Intel memory controllers have no such issue and can use higher speeds, and it actually helps because they also pump significantly more data/second. As for why 6400MT/s is recommended, it's simply because it's the best bang for buck, not that many programs actually benefit from higher memory bandwidth.
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How's the arrow lake refresh looking
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what is more important MT/s or timings
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>>106381500
AMD's architecture design has limits on the speed of communication between chips. 6000MT/s is a compromise to maximise performance across the broadest range of bins (silicon lottery).
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Wuthering waves still crashing. Unamuse pretty derby doesnt work. My 5070 ti is literally incapable of rendering Zachary games so I'm switching to 9070 XT as soon it gets here tomorrow.
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>>106381581
MT/s = bandwidth
Timings = latency

If you're gaming or doing audio production you want lower latency. If you're doing massive CPU loads you want bandwidth.
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>>106381581
Both. First word latency @ 10ns or lower.
This filter captures most of the DDR5 kits worth buying.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#S=6000,8400&F=6000000,10000000&sort=price&b=ddr5&Z=32768002,49152002,65536002,98304002,131072002&page=1
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>>106381589
Wuthering Waves is getting a big update in about 3 days. They're adding FSR4&DLSS4. Should fix whatever bugs they have with those GPUs.
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>>106381581
False dichotomy. You want a good balance because the clock affects the latency.
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>>106381631
He's a troll faggot, doesn't even read the forum replies he posts.
The Redditor says it's an application issue.
That game doesn't even give Radeon cards the option to turn on RT.
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>single GeForce owner having issues
>this sends nviditroon into a blind rage to the point xhe starts accusing them of being a troll
lol, you don’t look like a raving fanboy lunatic at all. Nvidiots are literally a cult at this point. GeForce is utopia with no issues ever and anyone that says otherwise is a heretic shill.
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>>106381643
The game lacks support for modern GPUs in general. It doesn't recognize 9070xt or 5080 properly only 4080 or below.
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>>106381672
You're the raving fanboy lunatic making shit up.
Read the content of the replies you post. Application issue.
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>>106381541
thanks anon
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>>106381706
Like post said above it lacks support for modern GPUs. The update is solving that. They're even adding Intel support.
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>>106381497
I want to do more serious video editing and get into 3d modeling. More than anything I just dont want to have to upgrade anything for the next 10 years, 6 minimum.
I'm already gonna spend 3k on my pc, im just waiting for black friday sales to save a bit of money and for more concrete info on whether or not the 50 supers are coming this year
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>>106381729
And the troll nigger faggot's saying the application issue will magically disappear if he switches to a 9070 XT, which doesn't have full feature support atm.
Game updates will fix those issues, not by swapping hardware "teams".
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>>106381485
It's a Silicon Power DS72 flash drive-type external SSD. I didn't expect much, but slowing down to 33mb/s is pretty bad, considering it starts out at 350mb/s-ish initially.
This is with a USB 3.2 Gen 1 port though, the stick is apparently compatible with Gen 2. From a regular USB 3.0 port best it can do is around 42mb/s.
It's better than shitty flash drives at least.
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>>106381706
>You're making shit up its the game!!
>Calls me the fanboy when he has a misleading images attached "it wouldn't run it well anyways" lying that amd cards would be incapable of running rt even if the game allowed
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aV7NE15RSnY
People have been spoofing their AMD cards as nvida ones on wuthering waves since it came out and it runs fine with no crashing you piece of shit shill
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>>106381754
Augusta = AMD
Iuno = Intel
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>>106381781
Enjoy those inconsistent frametimes on whatever spoofed dogshit it is.
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>>106381768
>but slowing down to 33mb/s is pretty bad
It's expected. Here's an example:
https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/silicon-power-ud70-1-tb.d720
>Die Write Speed: 30 MB/s
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Anyone else running a 9800x3d with an x870e taichi?

I just picked these up for a build, and now I'm learning about the risk to the CPU. Obviously, I plan on flashing the BIOS update first. How great are the chances I have an issue?
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>>106381954
Odds favor you, but update the BIOS before you install the CPU.
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>Resizeable Bar Size
>Above 4G Decoding

Do I need this? I tried enabling it and my OS stopped booting. Also BIOS became stir-fried 2bit pixel graphics and I had to navigate menus from memory to reset those options.

>boot your system in UEFI
Why the fuck is this a requirement even?
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>>106380800
It's okay, I had similar creative sound cards before.



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