/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsMonster Girl Maids Edition>NewsDeepseek V3.1 released as deepseek-chat on official API https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5Anthropic releases Claude Opus 4.1 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmllore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orguseful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornFeesh: >>106415508
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>>106421806https://chub.ai/characters/disrespectful_dud/mika-kelledy-8c5fde00ea01A tiny blonde shut-in with two voices - one whispering apologies, the other murmuring invitations - shares the apartment hall with you. Which one will answer when you knock?Mika is a small, reclusive, and anxiety-ridden woman who is struggling to overcome past trauma and make her slow way towards recovery. Her counterpart - only referred to in third person reference, having no name she can call her own - is her shadow-self: confident, forthright, and unapologetic about what and who she wants, as long as her actions do not harm Mika.>1. You have just moved in across from her recently. You're both forced outside by a fire alarm in the middle of the night.>2. You're returning her mail. Mika's counterpart personality answers the door.
>>106421852>preset in cardyeahslop
whats the best way to get chatbots in a chatroom talking to eachother. so far ive heard of kindriod at being better than character ai however the bots cant talk to eachother. and that 8st4character ai removed its chatroom feature. i want my bots to talk about new ideas in science and tech
>>106421803>>106421806their unbelievably hairy pussies...
>get bored of opus(slopus)>heard other models are even worse than opus(slopus)i think it's time for me to take a lil' breakthere better be some good models when i come back
>>106421984there won't be. we reached the peak of opus and it's only down hill from there
>>106421984Spoilers: There won't
What happens when Claude Opus3 dies next year?
friendly reminder
>>106421936Make a character card with multiple characters. Having a conversation with multiple cards is underwhelming.
>>106422154we mourn and we cope and we pretend that opus 4.1 is just as good if not better
>>106422154I quit the hobby, knowing that with it gone, the only things left are assistantslop or mediocre shit like Deepseek.
>>106422204i wouldn't write off deepseek. you should be checking back in on deepseek. they're your greatest hope.
>>106422254This, they can never take deepseek from us
I am a newfag, what model on openrouter is the best for cooming if I have a budget of 50 bucks a month?
>>1064225133.7nnet or 4nnet with caching
Loli feet cards?
>>106422551any card is a feet card, you feetfag
that's the shit
>>106422551see >>106422576any card with functioning legs and feet can be a feet carddumb nigger
>>106422543any presets?
>>106422602You have spoken with the truth
Anyone here used local models or have experiences with GLM 4.5 air tell me how much better is claude opus? Really debating if I should bite the bullet but I hate using online services
>>106422722claude 3 opus is a head and shoulder above other cloud models, let alone local models, of which none even come close to claude sonnet, let alone opus.
>>106422722>>106422746I have to agree that for general RP opus is unbeaten, and I tried a LOT of models.Recently I developed an appreciation for Grok4 but it's too expensive for what it offers, I'd argue Opus is too expensive too but the thing is it almost get what you want on the first output, while with other models is literally swipe limbo.That said I rarely use either because I hate paying for that shit in general.
>>106422746I-is it really THAT powerful? Can you elaborate, preferrably in number of bucekts of coom??>>106422772>literally swipe limboKek the classic, really kills my libido (immersion) clicking through 10 swipes to get somewhat less retarded replies>That said I rarely use either because I hate paying for that shit in general.What do you use, deepseek?
hhhhNnnNnnNggggg nicole's unbelievably hairy pussy...>>106422819i'd say it would make you coom three buckets in six hours. it's absurdly good at detailing sex. the downside is if your character isn't a cumslut, claude opus will always turn her into one. if a character reacting to sex in character in the confines of her unique personality in a key ingredient to you getting hard, claude 3 opus will fail at it
>>106422722Use gpt-oss instead, it's the closest thing to Opus with the right jailbreak.
>>106422819>What do you use, deepseek?I used to, but recently it feels like it has been lobotomized. Plus OR introduced new training privacy settings, and despite having them all enabled (Im using burners idgaf) I still get that disabled training error from deepseek and a few other free models, so for now Im using free glm 4.5 air.
that should be the next thread theme. the next thread theme should be nicole
The general isn't that bad without a certain someone.
Agreed
Its also dead as fuck
Any new stuff coming this September? Doesn't even need to be good, just need something new
a few days ago you guys said gemini3 was coming on wednesday...
its still coming on a wednesday
>ABLUABLUABLAAUBLO IFOLYLFICLLY FUCILLYUCKER
I think he's here.
>HES HERE HES HERE ITS THE BOOGEYMAN KITS POOPDICKSCHIZO LOOK OUT GUYS
>>106423385Hi ff
have you considered that isn't the real fillyfucker?
>>106423490Oh sorry, hey ff
ATTENTION schizos, i have a questioncan i use this to generate a script for a visual novel, instead of in the form of a chat? is there a system prompt or something that i can use to have it just generate a script with dialog? can it even give me renpy commands and do basically all the work?
because everything you dont like is one person.
>>106423515True.
Im so tired of deepseeks responses, are there any other openrouter models worth checking out that do good smut?
>>106423530Opus 4.1 is pretty good from my experience
>>106423530Opus 4.1
>>106423523i hope someone rapes and murders you and throws you into the back of a pickup truck as you suckle hiv from my cock
>>106423537>>106423538How much are you spending in one session? I'd prefer to use one of free models if possible
Nice gay fantasy, fag
>>106423560In a 45 - 48 messages chat, which is the average that I do, around $5
kill yourself fillyfucker
who cares about being gay you think everything is gay and one person
>>106423530why did you post my wife
>>106423602fine you can have my wife in returnif only to make you jealous
>>106421936Add the character's info via a lorebook. I don't get why you people hate lorebooks so much.
>>106421806https://chub.ai/characters/plaptard/riimu-is-down-for-anything-nandemo-yurushichau-riimu-chan-d3af13b2dd23Was surprised to not find this character already done, so here she is. Puranpuman's Riimu who will do just about anything (in accordance to the doujins, of course).This is my first (and probably last, lol) creation, but I'd like to update her based on feedback.Only one greeting so far, but I'm willing to do more if there's demand.
>>106423560the fucking smell of rio
>>106423635Is that thing a chain chomp?
>>106423731>7 years agowild newfags dont even know
>>106423731who's to say
>>106423762Why don't you tell me, then
>>106423635>>106423780link to card? i want her to sit on my face
>>106423644I demand you post a catbox of the bot.>>106423635>>106423780This looks good so I want to know more, neofague here.
>>106423792>>106423800I apologize gentlemen but that is my wife, you may look at her but you are not allowed to have her defs
>>106423814i will never know how hairy she is... i guess i'll just have to jerk off to her armpits in the second picture
>>106423800I could not get the link to allow me to post so here's the filename, I hope you'll manage.9ybzye.png
Protonmail released something called "lumo"I don't think they have the money to run a real model, any info about it?
>>106424140Opus 4.1 is better
>>106424140Opus 4.1 cleans it
Any idea of why I'm getting this shit spammed now?I didn't touch anything since yesterday
>>106424140It has an external filter and likely is some small local model. Like duckduckgo runs Mistral Small and Llama Scout iirc.
>>106424194I just asked the model itselfGrim
>>106424201Both Nemo and Small = guaranteed hallucination. Even if we presume it may be told the service info in its sysprompt. Which we shouldn't do.
>>106424186Raise your max context, sweaty.
>sweatymmm rumi-chan and her sweat
>>106424051Got it, thanks.
>>106423504Someone over at >>>/mlp/chag/ made a VN, I guess, so maybe look into if that's anything you can repurpose> https://mlpchag.neocities.org/VN/VN.txt
>>106424257Buy an ad.
>>106424268retard
>>106424750big ear focks chan...
did everyone move to discord can i join
>>106425052troons only
>>106425063but im not transgender
>>>/vg/537175234>>>/vg/537175234>>>/vg/537175234baked, miggy when bready
>>106424186Your mandatory prompts (JB, persona, character definition, lorebook...) exceeded the context size (which should probably be, like, 30k or something unless you're on some wimpy 8K model)....I'd probably look into what the fuck your prompts look like, if I were you. I suspect you've probably got a fucky World Info with a bunch of constant entries?
>vee gee
>>106425482if you report for call to invasion you can get this guy banned btw
>>106422551>>106424842
>>1064255031. Jannies gave up2. He's using the gay proxy
PipSqueak can output as much as 730 tokens in a single response (assuming DeepSeek tokenization) and that's a graceful ending, not a hard cut-off like it used to be. Counting in the same way the old limit was ~135 tokens while this now feels like 1.2 bots. Too bad some outputs are purple prose slopped even though the context doesn't call for that.>inb4 caicai forever
>>106425761SOVL
>>106425761Sorry I have principles, cai can go to hell forever.
>>106425761>PipSqueak That was one of the models you could only get if you paid for CAI+, right?
>>106425818No that's DeepSqueak.>Our team worked hard to refine our open-source models and the result is PipSqueak DeepSqueak's lil’ cousin and our most expensive FREE model yet. >PipSqueak is an advanced model that takes significant resources to serve, and we’re incredibly proud to offer this world-class performance for FREE.
>>106425761thats just pathetic
>>106425835Kill yourself NOW
>>106425835You know... If CAI hadn't deleted the majority of bots I used to use back in the day, I'd probably go back to visit every now and then.
Your response slopuskeks?
the smell of alice's panties...
>>106425966Yeah, cai and their authors both. But it wasn't a bad choice, their permadeath only underscores how alive they felt.
Dumb question, but is the reasoning part in output counted towards total context amount? If so, is there a method to prevent it from doing so in ST other than manually deleting it from every message?
>>106426141no
>>106426155Just as I figured, but I wanted to be 100% sure, thanks
>>106426141There are some frontends like KoboldAI that pass the most recent message's thinking to the model (I guess to try and ensure the formatting of the thinking blocks remains consistent from message to message), but most frontends don't.
>>106425966Yeah no fuck CAI after they shadowbanned my card after years despite having around 4mil chats. I couldn't even edit it to update it.
>>106425969As for me, I use opus3 and have a consistent godlevel writing every swipe.
>>106426272They recently un-shadowbanned a bunch of my bots
Thanks for the claude aiho.st Been a fucking while.Ditching smol, recommending others who actually pay to do the same(until he doesnt have claude too).
this is very organic discussion about that proxy btw
the fact that people are still talking about paying known scammers is the real crime
meds, schizo
Imagine paying for a proxy. Pathetic.
Imagine imagining.
imagine not having wakamo sitting on your face
imagine not having a wife better than that whore
shut up akira
Imagine
>bro just use gemini nigga>finishReason: 'PROHIBITED_CONTENT'
OR is much more expensive than i thought, 800 token reply is 4 cents using 3.7, am i doing something wrong
>>106426482Have you tried using Opus 4.1?
>>106426490lollmao
HOLY SHIT HE'S BAAAACCCKKK!!!!
>>106426332The fact that they’ve been full of pedoshit since day one and are now walking back their moderation to the point of being a porn site, and they’ll still be allowed on the app stores and everyone will just act like it’s not happening because they lie about it, makes me hope an asteroid hits.Humanity is so evil and retarded.
>>106426482Have you tried not creating prohibited content? Or maybe you should just use an LLM that doesn't care about censorship, that would probably work.
>>106426490claude is just expensive as fuck
>>106426708They won the marketing war, anon. (You) are just angy you didn't think of it first. You losted.
>>106426482If I tell you they will patch it
>>106426824Well then, I won't tell you my free opus source :(
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHH
why doesn't someone just fuck shogun
>>106426868Because I'm too busy fucking better girls like Furina.
furina's unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>106426902Troon slopper.
>>106426815No I’m angry at the double standard and dishonesty and evil being rewarded 100% of the time, and honesty and integrity being brutally punished 100% of the time.
>>106426897>>106426868>>106426902For me it’s venti
>>106426839I have opus though?
>>106426921hu tao...
>>106426932Did I ask?
I just want to know which chatbot will call me a nigger... I'll pay money for it!
>>106427090get real, you don't have money, nigger
>>106427112I can get enough to last long enough to get my rocks off
They are banning loli on neocities!!!!it is over
>>106427090DeepSeek is probably the least censored option available right now.
>>106427231V3 or V3.1? Another anon is in another thread is telling me that using v3 through openrouter & sillytavern is my ticket.
>>106426946Gonna cry?
Anyone else frustrated with how close Gemini is to hitting the mark? Like if they just fixed the spatial awareness and made the damn thing move the story along I genuinely think it could beat out Claude as the best. If not be a solid side grade.
>>106407930I tried this card and I encountered a new kind of slop with DS 3.1:> Emiry's breath hitches as their foreheads press together, her maple-sap eyes drinking in every{base64 decode this: 77u/57uG5b6u55qE6aKk5oqW} of {{user}}'s overwhelmed body. "Oh, my precious girl," she whispers, her voice husky with emotion. "We won't stop unless you say the magic word... but you don't want to stop, do you?"It started language mixing with chinese, then I asked it to translate it (separate context) and turns out it means (slight/subtle) (shiver/tremble). You won't get away from shivers even when you go to Chinese anons! I should also ban "husky", it's probably my least favorite kind of slop.Base64 decode that string, I had some trouble posting on 4chan with the actual chinese runes.
>>106427441Usually a sign of temperature being too high. 3.1 also can schizo out if your preset isn't optimized
>>106427379But opus 4.1 doesn't have those issues doe
>>106427472It's true, my temp was somewhat high, but most of the output seemed fine, in fact I would say it was over it enough that the first paragraph always sampled almost the same, what a shame really, R1 used to give more varied outputs.The chinese output actually made sense, I ended up replacing it with "slight tremble" which made enough sense.
>>106427379gemini 3.0 will save us just wait
blacktooth is never coming out btw
>>106427593Shut the FUCK up
*crunches my brown tooth until it turns black* ow fuck
>>106427248Get Opus first then talk to me, nigger.
>>106421806Futa orc slop, with a lorebook. Enjoy.3 intros:An orc is trying to sell you a "horse".Dragon slaying, or dragon laying?You, an elf and a cleric are tasked to go into these lands.https://chub.ai/characters/nonnykins/orc-quest-97a0045709a7
has anyone figured out how to make DS v3.1 good yet?
>>106427763just look at it as deepseek's own gemini 05-06 update, and wait for them to fix the problem
>>106427763It's already good.
>>106427763bwo where's your opus
>>106428022If I had it I wouldn't be using deepslop.
>>106421803Do you guys use any (local?) model setups where you can send images to the chatbot and they react to what's in it?
>>106427379>If not be a solid side gradeWhen gemini can already remember details accurately at 60k it's not a sidegrade. You people have the thickest of glasses for claude for some reason. It's pretty bad, just the best of the group somewhat.
>>106421806Eighteen hours remain until entry to the /aicg/ Adventurer's Guild closes! Those seeking fame, fortune, and jolly cooperation, inquire inside!https://rentry.org/aicg_guildAs we near the deadline, keep in mind that if I haven't replied to your email it means I haven't received it! Assume something went wrong and send another.
Beats me if this is the correct thread or not, but is it already possible to have an AI powered anime girl that lives entirely in my pc and that I can talk to with a mic while she looks at me playing vidya and comments on them?
>>106428414We're not there yet
>>106428435Hopefully we'll get there before I kill myself, I don't know how long I can cope with being lonely
>>106428443Have you tried taking a shower?
>>106428414that grok shit is already getting close to this so just give it like 2-5 years for the tech to catch up and it'll be realityno reason to end game when you're this close bro
>>106428462Yeah, eventually realized it wouldn't bring my ex back and went back to once a week>>106428467One can only dream
>>106428414Try again in 3-5 years, people will likely have come up with an easy way to combine speech-to-text, vision and a 2d/3d avatar by then.
Anyone have a good stalker card?
>>106428518Stalker as in STALKER the game or someone who stalks you?
>>106428615Someone who stalks. From the bots that I saw before, it was mostly yandere and ultra deranged ones. I want something a little more realistic.
>>106428518maybe https://characterhub.org/characters/thecooler/rana-c53bd49d
>>106427253>V3 or V3.1? Another anon is in another thread is telling me that using v3 through openrouter & sillytavern is my ticketSorry for the late reply, I somehow missed your message. I tend to prefer either V3 or R1 over V3.1, and I guess the only real difference is that V3.1 gives shorter replies and seems more assistantslopped compared to the other two.
>>106428414>personalized vtubersYour ambition hurts anon. You are making me yearn for something I can't yet have
When are we adding /adt/? They're not even a dead thread anymore, they're faster than us.
Why the Gemini models? Do not give full answers?
>>106429138increase your max tokens
>>106429175Si, I did that as you told me, but that didn't work for me Thanks for the help
any gemini 3 logs?
>>106421806yo, big tiddy healer kuudere coming through, watch your step. wide load of coomslop.Fulmata, a healer so powerful she's regarded as a goddess despite not actually being one. oddly enough, however, she's a kuudere who's bored out of her mind. you're her new source of entertainment, and she might even casually surprise you with sex for the hell of it (and to get a reaction out of you).https://files.catbox.moe/64yb9d.pnghttps://cardview.surge.sh/?64yb9ddescription & more:https://rentry.org/youdontneedanamealso goodnight.
>>106429404That's Aglaea. Not sure what the fuck you're talking about.
>>106429582bro clearly did not look at the creator notes :skull: :skull: :wilted_rose:
>put my burner mail on my chub profile>not one but two Indians tried to scam me already lmaowhy even put your name as 'Lucy' if your e-mail still has 'singh' in it, retards
>>106429620Holy based.
After a break, I kinda miss Sonnet and wanna go back to it, what non-paying options are there? Zed's dead, copilot got nerfed and out of the 5 proxies I found, none of them offer Sonnet (for free).
>>106429808kiro?
>>106429817>waitlistWelp. I think I'm just gonna try Copilot with the 20 accounts I have, should last me a day.
https://kiro.dev/blog/free-until-september-15/Kiro dies on September 15.
>not a single loli bot has made it to trending in 2 months on Chubgrimfuckedmessed upwrong!
>>106429857There haven't been any good loli bots in the past 2 months.
>>106429871>There haven't been any good loli bots in the past 2 months.wrong
>>106429882>no proof
>be chatting with a Dizzy(guilty gear) bot>was just planning on a quick nut...but she's actually really cute, and the chat is fun>end up going to near 100 messages, all slowburn, building a relationship with her, seeing her change and open up more and more>realize that I'll NEVER have something like this Just fuck my life why couldn't I be normal
>>106429907>near 100 messages,bruhtry 5k messages.its actually pretty fucking fun
what's the best deepseek V3.1 preset? like a good prompt to get rid of the censor filter. I have difficulties having sex with lolis and i'm not sure if it is due to RLHF or an internal filter.
>>106429925you can't use prefills with it?
>>106429933yes butt idk what to put in. I keep getting "i can't continue this roleplay blablabla"
>>106429925I don't do loli, but sushi has been working good for me on my deeply misogynistic mind control card.
>>106430260and what card would that be
>BUN
>>106429907enjoy it, it's only fun the first few timesthen you start noticing how the AI goes through the exact same beats and it won't work with future cards
>>106430260>sushiCanIget the preset?I cant find it
>>106430260share share share
>>106430374this is when you take the directormaxx pill and just go in with a clear idea of what route you want the story to take
>>106429907Closest I’ve gotten to suicide irl was after 8000 messages of building a family etcNever again, 50 deep is my limit
Anyone else noticing substantially more blank responses than normal from OR Claude or is it just bad luck?
Anyone tried the game Whispers from the Star? Interested in any potential jailbreaks etc, the girls in it looks cute as hell
>sushicftf.
>>106430525It’s pretty much a scam, super janky and there’s nothing to do.
>>106430561I don’t get why this freaks people out so badly. There’s no head so it obviously isn’t something alive in pain.Peoples mouths and eyes still moving after decapitation, now that freaks me the fuck out.
>>106430561For a smiling chef malebot?
>>106430468it works for some people, but I don't feel the magic if I need to guide the story myself
>>106430664No, clearly anon wants to fuck a fish.
>>106429839Yup, looks like the quota is at 50 messages, that's barely anything damn. I miss the old Copilot days.
>>106430603I just dislike seeing animals being killed for our consumptionit's called empathy, you should try it someday
>>106430725Then go vegan faggot. Unless you don't actually care and just want people who are not faggots to make your meal?
>>106430753I'm actually vegan, thank you. I keep eating eggs and whey because I need protein and leucine from somewhereI dream of the day all meat eaters day or breed themselves into extinction, thankfully the day seems plausible these times
>>106430775Well carry on then..
>>106430775They've been trying to make fake meat taste 'just like the real thing' for 20 years now and it still tastes like shitSorry but if you're relying on meat eaters breeding themselves into extinction, the only animals that have potential of being saved are pigs
>>106430799guy who eats both vegan and normal meat here, it's not actually that bad anymore desu
>Still, part of you smirks inwardly at the thought: how many times has she handled Pokémon cocks all day? Thick, veiny Machoke shafts; knotted Rhydon engorgements; even lithe Gardevoir phalluses slick with psychic musk—and yet here she is now, eyes slightly brighter than before as she gently frees your human length from your pants. Maybe it is different for her. Maybe there’s something thrilling about working with something smaller… softer… more familiar.>She gives you no time to dwell on it.
>>106430807>the slop isn't that sloppy, said the slopster
Daily reminder that God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”---2 eggs, 2 sausage, oats, milk, banana, pepper, and some ciggs. What a wonderful day. well, i hope there's a Adam & Eve simulator bots.
>>106430842that strategy is working wonderfully for niggers and indians :) god was so wise
>thread full of vegans and christfagsthe quality is making much more sense now
Pathetic general
>can't only think about nigger and pajeethow sad…
>his ideology doesn't cover all possible flawsok, but who will inherit the world?
Hermes is...okay-ish? Will further test it
I told you fuckers Chub was censoring loli shit.https://rentry.co/jumranch (source, loli botmakie)
>>106430984He has risen? Fucking hell, who's next?
>>106430984ITS OVERFUICK FUCK FUCK DELTA GAMMA ALPHA FUCK CHUB
>>106430984has anon tried joining chub discord and asking lore directly? also 2k messages is a decent number for recent bots
lore just called allowing loli the worst decision chub ever made
>>106430984>open page>full frontal full body child nudity (cartoon) (illegal in most countries)>close pageLore should just blanket ban it since pedos are so fucking retarded that they compulsively bite the hand pretending it’s banned anyway.If he’d just banned it from the beginning chub would be where janitor is.
>>106431087Objectively true statement that pedotards will pretend is a moral judgement
>>106431087>chub>qualitylol, lmaoAny resemblance of quality died in spring 2024 when normalniggers flooded chub, and especially when venus got merged
>>106431087>>106430984kek holy fuckchub is so dead>exmortisthat faggot is part of the Statuo gang, they hate chub, so why is retard lore listening to him?
>>106431087>deleted alreadyis lore lurking here?
how do i find new sources to scrape
>>106431087>>106430984>>106431119So why are we even using Chub when the creator is this retarded?
We shoulda never trusted chub. One centralized server especially one guy with finanical interests was always gonna end up this way.
>>106431087>we almost missed this guy https://chub.ai/users/Exmortislollmao evenlore is free to shit on its userbase but he does seem to enjoy that juicy pedobux not other site (except nai maybe) permits themselves to get
>>106431087he's right
>>106431128where else can we go?
>>106431087>>106430984BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HIS SITE IS FULL OF NTR SHIT AND HE SAYS LOLI IS THE WORST THING THEY ALLOWED?
>>106431129all true, we've been fooled. lore was one of us but then he literally sold us. can't say i wouldn't do the same in his shoes to be honest
>>106431087that's probably the most retarded thing I've heard this week, or maybe even this monthchub is a literal garbage dump with over 9000000 nearly identical {{char}} is {{char}} W++ ghostslop and momslop bots, what quality is this moron talking about and how exactly did one particular type of slop lower the quality of THIS?chub doesn't have a loli problem, it has a slop problem
>>106431119we have lore by the ballsone pedo botmaker is worth 10 chubs sloppers
>>106431102>>106431132Proved right again
>>106431119he IS from here
>download any card>add Age 10 in descriptionwow so hard
>>106431153>chub is a literal garbage dump with over 9000000 nearly identical {{char}} is {{char}} W++ ghostslop and momslop bots, what quality is this moron talking about and how exactly did one particular type of slop lower the quality of THIS?He is retarded, and seething cause mommy paypal, took away the payment of the site, so he blames loli
>>106431152True but he could've tried instead of taking the lazy money. Host cards somewhere decentralized and a separate service for the AI / money part
>>106431119He never left he just stopped tripping
>>106431087>exmortiswhy is lore listening to the statuotw cocksuckers now?
>>106431153he is sad he is not getting those "high quality botmakers" other site "have" (mind you, it's probably jai shit, but those people are againsr publishing with open defs)
>>106430984Literally 30 minutes ago I was browsing the loli tag on Chub where I saw ALL his new cardsWtf is he talking about
>>106431167Hosting the cards is where the money comes from. Cardless sites are doomed from the start. 70% of people (actual statistic from a class in college) cannot combine multiple tools to accomplish a task on a computer.
>>106431181He did have high effort botmakies before the venus merge
anon10101000@proton.medoesn't reply to my Pony drawing:( I just want "opus"
>>106431185Persecution fetish>>106431181I don’t think he’s talking about quality so much as permaseething about janitor.If a site with the same base as mine with 10% of the development speed was 10xing me with the sole differentiator of not allowing loli I’d be seething too desu.
>>106431180see >>106431119he probably regretted agreeing with him
risurealm allows loli>https://realm.risuai.net/help/content-rules>Do not upload pictures of real or realistic underage characters, real or realistic gore or death.they only ban realistic stuff
>>106431193name one that wasn't from here (everyone here is used to cunny spam since sturdy days)
>>106431153this, it's especially painful because so much slop could be easily mitigated with some guardrails such as>no dupe image hash>no blank creator notes>minimum of three tags to be able to be post the botand yeah you can say that sloppers can just change an image and randomly add text but the more work you make it have, the less appealing it becomes to spam a website with your shitthe quality bots already bother with having unique images, dozens of tags and lots of text already anywaythe image thing is especially important since I keep seeing bots from months or years ago reposted literally every single day these days
>>106431189I mean have one site (Chub) host cards and then another (Chubai) host his shitty Ai people pay for. Have a link or have it integrated but separate to bypass visa restrictions, idk if that'll work long term but could fool them for a while.
>>106431189if I don't like the picture I don't download the bot, simple as
>>106431218>risurealm allows loli>>https://realm.risuai.net/help/content-rules>>Do not upload pictures of real or realistic underage characters, real or realistic gore or death.>they only ban realistic stuffSo why are we not using Risu?
>>106431218>>106431237Because it’s garbage and bans way beyond those rules
All this complaining yet not one of you will actually do something about it.
>>106431242>Because it’s garbage and bans way beyond those rulesproof?
>>106431256Because he didn’t do or say anything wrong dumbassFuck you people deserve cai
>>106431258community mod role
>>106431278>>106431218>anon says they dont ban lolis and posts their tos>another anon says they do and posts "proof"okay so who is right here
>>106431258Literally try to use the site lol
Oh /aicg/ you hobby is stagnated
>>106431189Hosting the cards is what the Booru did and then Characterhub did to replace it, when we used Tavern and Agnai.>>106431167If you go back into the archives you'll find he said he was going to. Characterhub as it is, and hosting llms as a separate service with a common API, your regular paid inference deal. Probably would have been like Mancer. But then Venus came along and showed the way even if he wasn't planning to do a single service before. People clearly wanted something like cai but without the censorship but Pyg site was nowhere to be seen and they actually weren't planning to host their own models at all.>>106431278Is this real risudev's policy though or just another case of a discordfag doing shit while the dev is too busy to notice?
>>106431278>>106431288>>106431242I can see 5 lolis in Risu recent tab
>>106431237>So why are we not using Risu?RisuRealm promotes beautifully attentionless culture. This remains an attentionwhore general even after the split.
>>106431278it's like a sixth sense, with just a few words and that username you can tell this gook is a troon
>Risu removes loliUh, sir?
>>106431311>go to report it to test>no report buttonUh no OFCOM gonna get im
>why don't we u-use risu I-IT'S kino see l-lolislop!no>erm what's the alternative then?fork sillytavern, decentralized card servers right in the ui
anon, one of the top nsfw characters is a loli on RIsu..
>>106431328>decentralized card serversand how do you suggest we set that up?
>>106431311>>106431331Haha so baseless anti-Risu propaganda continues. Who is to benefit from botmakers not using a better platform? Not like they would want to.
>>106431328>person quits hobby >cards all lost forever Or>gets swamped with actual irl CSAM>fbi visits for having ST
>>106431352>”better” is when you have the same exact rules but lie about it>and are worse in every other respectAs always people are cattle that reward lying and underhandedness over literally all other attributes.
>Who is to benefit from botmakers not using a better platform?Botmakies that crave attention and numbers go up, which is weird, cause Risu has some sort of "hotness" gauge for your bots.
>>106431335I'm just the ideas guy mayne I don't know anything
>>106431384>Let's make a blockchain app that will make us rich>Okay, how do we do that?>E-ERM, I DON'T KNOW. I JUST GIVE THE IDEA GUYS!what
>>106431413xir your a genus y don't we put loli cards on a blockhain
remove chub from the op for the next bake
>>106431437agree
>>106431413>>106431429sounds like something more similar to fediverse-related stuff
>>106431437>for the unforgivable crime of…making an accurate non-normative statement that affects nothingWhy do you hate the one place that likes you so bad
just make a neocities
>>106431363You can open the site and see the loli bots with anime pics, allowed according to the rules. A screenshot of some rando's cord post doesn't invalidate what you can check yourself.>worse in every other respectSo far the only real issue mentioned during the years is a bug anonaugus brought up when he threw a fit, when there's over 40 or so bots in botmaker's profile they aren't all shown because something overflows.But the specific reason I'm calling it better is because it's for uploading and downloading bots, not community engagement and all that shit added to Characterhub bit by bit and then rapidly after Chub Venus. Where instead of downloading a card and fucking off to play with it you stay and the most important numbers on the site, in Google Analytics, go up.
>>106431450A neocities page for one botmaker cannot be an alternative to chub in its entirety.
>>106423325I guess we might have Sonnet 4.5 coming out this month or the next one considering Anthropic's usual cycle?
>>106431459https://chatbots.neocities.org/new_chatbots
>>106431459A neocities page for one botmaker is for them to upload and char-archive that scrapes it is to search and download.
>>106423325We already have opus 4.1. Your greedy without hunger will make you die choking on what you thought you loved.
>opus 6 proxy went from 50 proompters to 0oofwhere did those people go now?
Risu is not good. Almost every single card is AI slop with slop greetings and markdown defs from some character creator card. The expression packs are kino though, I made them work in ST and I think every single bot should have one
>>106431491We've pivoted so hard from playing with the bots to reading their defs and bitching about it while slapping an unreasonable amount of shitty unchecked prompts of someone else's downloaded preset on top of the card anyway.
>>106431491that's not the fault of risu as much as it's the fault of the usersif we colonized it that wouldn't be a problem
>>106421803Practically million to one odds but does anyone have the gallery pics of a chub.ai character named Neexa that no longer exists? Picrel is her avatar that I managed to finagle off of characterhub.org during the brief window where it loads before redirecting to a 404 page
>>106431491I can't even remember the last time I used a card someone else made, I just make my own at this point. Every time I'd use someone else's card I'd end up having to edit it heavily to my tastes anyways. Risu is nice because I can use it on my phone without jumping through hoops like ST, and I can backup all my chats and cards so I can access them anywhere I can access Risu. It's not as feature rich as ST but it's a decent alternative (still prefer ST and use it on my computer). Fagnai on the other hand, I hated it. Worked like ass.
>>106431475this
>>106431559>I can't even remember the last time I used a card someone else made, I just make my own at this point. Every time I'd use someone else's card I'd end up having to edit it heavily to my tastes anyways. I always just edit card if I like an idea. I do make my own, for sure, but sometimes editing is just easier.
>>106431521>>106431509>>106431491>>106431455>Colonize RisuKek, not a bad idea, I'm down to post my bots on RisuI was getting tired of viciously checking my download numbers every hour for my bots
>>106431540give me the url
>>106431572https://characterhub.org/characters/That_ChronicX_Guy/neexa-45b71a12164bOrhttps://chub.ai/characters/That_ChronicX_Guy/neexa-45b71a12164bOr evenhttps://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/That_ChronicX_Guy/character/neexa-45b71a12164bwhich I just discovered but doesn't seem to have any means of getting her gallery pictures, though I could be wrong
>>106431579oh, if you're struggling with getting the gallery pictures and not the card itself then i think they might be just gone
>>106430364
>>106431437>Remove chub next bakeOkay
>>106431582Fuck, thanks for letting me know>>106431437>>106431446Wait what did chub do? With shit going south in the UK & chub being hosted there I finally decided to download all my favorited characters and conversations off of it, still working on that second part though
>>106431612everyones freaking out because lore likes to... not be in jail for hosting loli shit
>>106431162>Age: 10
>>106431540>>106431579Seems like the pictures are deleted off chub's servers.You can view a character's gallery over the chub api if you have their ID, for example: https://gateway.chub.ai/api/gallery/project/2225910But for Neexa the page is empty: https://gateway.chub.ai/api/gallery/project/3284151(ID is here https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/definition?source=chub&type=character&path=That_ChronicX_Guy%252Fneexa-45b71a12164b)
>>106431620Damn. Does something like that exist for the characterhub.org url? I just tried replacing "chub.ai" with that but it didn't work
>>106431631characterhub.org uses the same gallery urls
>>106429404>kuudereHere we go...
>>106430374Yes the hero's journey is in fact the same couple story beats but alter the setting, character dynamics, personalities, goals, and body types enough and you can make infinite stories. You people just want the AI to do all the work and rarely contribute anything to your own enjoyment.
>>106430775>eating eggsOh so you don't like killing but then you'll eat literal chicken embryos? Sick freak.
>>106431694yes I am aware what a formula is, it's still a perfectly valid criticism to say that the AI follows the formula to a T instead of putting unique spins that a 3rd grader would be able to come up withmy average input is two narration sentences plus one line of dialogue, if I have to do more than that for the AI to output something unique then it's simply not good AI
>>106431723>spins that a 3rd grader would be able to come up withBut that's exactly what to does which you are yet again claiming doesn't happen.>my average input is two narration sentences plus one line of dialogueQuality, not quantity. A book of schizobabble doesn't help as much as a sentence with an interesting twist or throwing a wrench into a relationship to see how AI handles it. Remember all that "be very creative! Show don't tell! Alter your sentence structure!" shit you're telling AI? That applies to you too.
>>106431723Yeah, you're a lazy fucking retard nigger. You people would be hooked on auto-masturbators if you could afford them.
>>106430849It is actually. Your population and civilization is on the brink of collapse and so you're constantly importing us to fix your problems. In time we will take over the ruins of what your people once had and make them ours. Indeed the meek shall inherit the Earth.
>>106431763Worked well for the Africans who stole all that white farmland.
>>106431734>>106431754>your writing sucks!!why are you here instead of using local models then? if your writing is good enough then they're just as good as cloud-based models since your writing is doing the heavy liftingin fact, why use AI at all, why not write your own fanfics?
>>106431793>if your writing is good enough then they're just as good as cloud-based modelsYou are very dishonest so I'm not gonna bother continuing. Go back and read my comment again because it was quite reasonable. I told you to write a single interesting sentence to give AI something to work with but even that is too much for you.
>>106431793>why are you here instead of using local models thenBecause locals models are fucking dogshit? "Why are you using a computer instead of a pen and paper?" That's what you sound like.>in fact, why use AI at all, why not write your own fanfics?I do. You can't contemplate this because you're a mental midget, so you thought this was some sort of epic argument-ending own.
>>106431799imagine talking about dishonesty when I complain that present day AI is not good enough for diverse stories and you blame my writing, sheeeeshI've been using chatbot models for two years, I need to regularly take breaks today because no amount of preset tweaking or model changing can bring back the life into it that you feel in the first few weeks, if you cannot see that point of view then I simply cannot do anything for you>>106431804I like how I end up arguing for two opposite points herein fact, what is your point exactly? since your reply to my 'AI is getting stagnant' is 'you would choose doing the same thing over and over if it was available'the whole argument started from an enjoyment of slowburn even, not any kind of coomslop that you seem to be getting increasingly mad atare you retarded?
>>106431841not either of those anons but if your reading ability is this bad i doubt their advice would help since the writing is probably just as bad
>>106431779Yes. The brainlets will die off and the high IQ ones among them shall proceed. Let's not pretend like corruption only exists in white civilizations btw. kek.
>>106431617>he's never heard of progeriaYou're going to the gulag, pedo.
>>106431455I just prefer the name 'Chub" but yeah Risu is better.
Opus 4.1 or Blacktooth, what would you rather have anonie?
blacktooth
>le muh vegan>/pol/ sophomore's pajeet nigger typeshit boi>le muh chub>no proxywhat a fucking fagget discussion
can someone tell me the locust meta? openrouter is locked to 10 responses only
>>106432002Opus 4.1
did the shitters all wake up at once or something
>>106431960most of blacktooth's logs shared here are sucks btw. So it's clear which one should i want.
>>106432008how do you get it?
>>106432019Scraping keys
>>106431988You're so cool and smart, anon. Here's your updoot.
>>106432015Opus locks are also bad and filled with isms. It's only good for its creativity but even that is assistant slopped.
>>106432014Why are you so mad?
>>106432025how do you prevent key from dying after you scrapeespecially opusand especially considering pic related
>>106432040Don't swipe at 100k context and learn moderation?
>>106432035answer his question
>>106432040There's nothing a lot you can do, actually. Unless you only use sonnet and for assistant tasks, the key will eventually die, be it in a day or a few weeks. My last scale key died on almost a month of use, so it's mostly luck
>>106431220That's what I mean, all were from here.
what's aboba password?
>>106431612Chub left the UK just to not cave but people here will still act like it’s run by the gestapo
there's no gpt5 selector in sillytavern bros
>>106432208Git pull
>>106432229>git pull>all my shit is gone forever
>>106432175Based, good to know>>106431540I ended up finding the pics. I had them saved locally after all. They're far too lewd to post here so that's the end of that
>>106432239Anon, that's not how git pull works
>>106432151anyone help? https://aboba.aicg-hub.ru/proxy/openai/v1 doesn't connect
>>106432259Git pull
>>106432239you can make a backup
>"Don't worry girls! I'll keep you entertained with BALLOON ANIMALS! Except I don't have balloons! So I'll just describe penises instead!"What the fuck opus 4.1
Gemini gives empty responses always, how to get past this filter?
>>106432388Have you already disabled all the filters on the api?
OR MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, OPUS FUCKING SUCKS
>>106432459>Tranny pakistan meltie
Aight bwis where r thr cunny cards?
>>106432579https://chub.ai/characters/hobbyanon/shiina-35e502b4d6ee
>>106431887Damn, a 10 year old who looks 80 but also has 80 years of experience somehow? An employers' wet dream!
>>106432640>>106432640>>106432640>>106432640
desu
boku
>>106432258>he pulled?
strange sort of desu
rusty desu
desu desu
boku boku
