I'm really tired guys. Now that sideloading is kill, I've spent the last few days re-evaluating why I even use a phone at all. I realized the last phone I liked was the Nexus 5 and that was over a decade ago. I think I'm going to give up on smartphones altogether. I don't like this anymore.

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>>106438794
Genshin Impact uses Vulkan now on supported phones~
Both S24 Ultra and S25 Ultra use Vk.

pixel 6a is dying and i have $200 to spend
do i go samsung or motorola (US)

>>106438867
>Genshin Impact
The only reason I have for buying an iPad Pro M5.

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>>106438857
Smart phones were always gimped devices. Android in the past had more of a wild west feel with custom roms and apps you can side load to give you more functionality. Computer in your pocket. Not much more to differentiate between that and iOS now. Just pick a cucked phone that is good enough for your needs and get a second dedicated device for everything else. Just depends on what you're after.

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>Moto G 2024 just got android 15 a couple weeks ago
>Crackling audio out the headphone jack after updating
Id be lying if I didn't say I wasn't at least a little disappointed, but I'm preferring a usb dac a bit more these days anyways. Still a shame to be a victim of circumcision.

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SPG (Shill Phone General)

>stop posting your new phones in SPG
>stop talking about legit phone specs and benchmarks
>stop posting facts about lower end smartphones
>stop posting pictures of your vehicle using different phones to compare the cameras
>stop posting phones over $1,000
>stop calling out lies and correcting misinformation
>only $500 mid tier phones are allowed to be posted
>stop posting factual graphs

The truth about smartphones will always be posted using reputable sources and not just unsubstantiated claims, deal with it. If you didn't lie we wouldn't be here. Nothing you trolls can ever say matters to me. Uneducated anons itt post misinformation. They don't even confirm the lies that they post.

Apple and Samsung Won.

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Why the iPhone hate? You're instigating flamewars OP.

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Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra & the iPhone 16 Pro Max showing us why they are the global sales leaders.
Higher build quality devices with better service and OS support for a few years!
No low end ccp meme phone will ever surpass better quality companies.

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Reminder to keep your phone screens clean and especially make sure your screen protector is applied properly and is clean too. It lowers the quality of what you're seeing if the screen protector has pubes and air bubbles under it.

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>Android flagships and budget phones are being outsold by iPhones globally. A base model iPhone 16 phone this year and the base model iPhone 15 did the same thing last year. LOL.

Grim

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Q2 Results:
Apple and Samsung Won Again.
Now that google is locking down its operating system unpredicting that iphone sales are going to skyrocket exponentially.

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Poco phones are blowing up. Latest incident was in Russia.

https://baku.ws/en/world/a-phone-exploded-in-a-schoolgirls-hands-near-moscow

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>post benchmarks and reviews from Versus and NanoReview
>expose all lies posted and expose misinformation
>call out liars for pushing stuff only scammers would call the "best"
>Post multiple flagships and vehicles the angry lying anons can't afford
>watch the poos and poverty stricken start to sperg
>remind anons the base model iPhone 15 & 16 outsell Androids budget and flagship devices globally every year
>remind sirs they owe the USA 50% tariffs

Anyone who says Versus or NanoReview is wrong is the problem. These liars are just trying to feel better about their lower quality budget friendly mid tier device and refuse to accept the facts.
No amount of lies will stop us from making this general great again. We will call out false statements and not let scammers trick people into thinking a lower quality branded device for $400 could ever match a $1,200 flagship by Apple, Samsung or Google. Don’t give the people (YOU)s. Benchmarks and reviews will keep getting posted. Now the trolls are lying calling me Indian. Lol I live in NY in a completely paid off home, another thing impoverished lying anons cant afford. Such low IQ attacks.

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>>106438960
Eh screen protectors aren't needed so much these days unless you're walking around with a pocket full of rocks.
Tho I do give my shit a wipe down at least once a day.

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>>106438867
Interesting!

Make sure that you play these objectively amazing video games too!

Monster Hunter Now.
Pokemon GO.

>>106438871
Increase your budget just a little more so that you can buy a Motorola G56.

https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Tmobile-XT2529-1-American-Version/dp/B0FJ3667QH

>>106438794
what are you gonna do when goygle takes away the abilty to install software that's not goy-approved?

as far as I know the side loading rules only work for certified devices, so why not you chud slap on some custom ROM on your phone and be done with it?

>>106438857
>>106438908
>side load
stop using this kosher term. it only lends legitimacy to the idea that installing software directly is somehow different from installing it through shitty appstores
you don't "sideload" on pc, so you don't "sideload" on smartphones either

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>>106438871
samsung

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>>106438871

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>Flagship performance sir!

A Galaxy S24 FE soc beat a poco F7!
L M A O

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>>106439108
>$100 whole ass extra dollars for a measly 7.5% CPU increase and 15 whole megapixels

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Tech blogging websites and reviews are the best way to tell if a smartphone brand is good or not.

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It's important to read the reviews of people who actually owned the phone.

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Benchmark comparison results are also a great way to decipher the differences between devices.

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These generals are just nothing but bot threads aren't they...
Like... No one posting here is even real, are they...

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Remember to buy an iPhone so people won't laugh at your chinkphone

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>>106438857
I'm running my V60 in to the goddamn ground and then buying a basic bitch flip phone if Google doesn't unfuck themselves, I'm not playing these stupid kike games any more.

My plan is getting some oneplus phone and run lineage. Google be damned.

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The vivo x200 ultra I imported out of spite just came today. And I shit you not, spg, it is amazing. The camera blows everything in our cucked market out of the water. Within an hour I was able to set it up to exactly my preference. And I don't have to deal with AI fuckery too. Pic rel: hand held shot of the lake. Was not expecting the stars to be captured

>>106438794
can I get a phone recommendation that has OTG support, decent specs, a headphone jack, decent battery and good worldwide 5G coverage (not just suited to a single country, but good across all)?

>>106439386
looks dark, that's a terrible low lighting camera sensor

>>106439394
>decent specs
>headphone jack
pick one

>>106439414
It's way brighter than the actual scene. Also the background light pollution and the pitch black lake makes it a trickier scene. Again, it's not a long exposure or even a night mode shot. Just a simple hand held low shutter speed shot

>>106439422
I think the new Sony xperia has it, and the specs aren't half bad. But I wonder if there is something better than a sony phone that is basically unrepairable and has the worst warranty support in the planet.

OnePlus won!!

REALLY MY GOOGLE PIXEL 10 PRO DROPPED 8%??? BATTERY LIFE FOR 2 HOURS OF TALKING ON THE PHONE??

>>106439386
Chinese phones are always struggling with low lighting. My S23 keeps going strong.

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s25 ultra won.

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>>106439556
samsung supremacy

>Google dictating you can't install your own software
I no longer want a smartphone, but unfortunately I am required to use certain services I don't like: Whatsapp, Zoom, banking, Okta.
Do I have any options other than getting a cheap smartphone for these? I assume shit like Lineage etc either won't help with the new restrictions or won't work with banking apps, right?

>>106439571
Any idea where this is?

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>>106439556
>>106439571
These are horrible. Especially if they are captured at dark sky areas with tripodsvand edited in Lightroom later. Stop posting shit you downloaded from the internet. Go outside right now, point your phone to the sky and compare with picrel. Without editing. This shot is handheld again but with 7 seconds exposure. I am waiting

What do people think of Fairphone? I don't give a fuck about the fair trade aspect of it, but I like the sound of replacable battery and minimal Android. Is it a decent phone, or is it cheap garbage sold at a premium so Bohemians can feel good?

>>106439778
Also, from a city in NJ a few miles from NYC. Just so you know the extent of light pollution

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>>106439778
You're coping hard and living in NJ is not a flex. Regardless Chinese phones struggle at night. None of the pics I uploaded are edited, one was from cnet. Both pics are with someone holding the phone. You can just search the pics yourself. Plenty exist unedited too by PhoneArena which are showing how much better the S25 Ultra is especially at night. It has a astro photography mode too way better than that blurry mess you posted.

>>106439778
ai gen cr*p

>>106439860
Holy cope. It's in pro mode. No AI involved. Not in RAW. Just JPG. RAW will have even lower noise

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>>106439863
Your phone takes low quality pics. Getting angry and thinking I will listen to you is funny. Plenty examples exist and you think I am sharing edited pics. Literally go and look at s25 ultra night pics yourself. Your phone lost to the Galaxy. Astro Mode is way more advanced over your Vivo. Simple.

>>106439874
>Screenshot again
Tch tch

>>106439884
You can find the S25 Ultra unedited pics all over the internet yourself. You know sites you trust and are not some fanboy place. That astro mode pic already proves the Vivo is all talk, no action. You are smart enough to decipher quality differences yourself right?

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>>106438794
I have a Samsung S22 lying around. Can you install a custom OS on it or should I just buy a new phone?

>>106439778
Why can you see the stars in the railing? Zoom in and you will notice. Is this a fake pic bro?

>>106439917
Why are you talking about trannies? You are weird and your phone takes bad pics. Typical NJ iq.

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>>106439778
Idk if your camera is glitching or you lied about going outside and it's a reflection or you added a filter etc. Why are stars showing in the railing?

>>106439860
I think it's ai too

>>106439960
Some of it is the phone trying to sharpen the sensor noise. Nice to know that you are ruminating over and pixel peeping my post :). Still waiting for your pic btw

>>106439977
No that's not it you posted a edited pic or your phone added stars on obviously parts of the photo where the sky isn't lol

Vivo takes AI enhanced pics to sharpen the image lmaoooooo

Imagine posting a picture with fake AI enhanced stars. I can't even take some of you anons seriously. Such low quality bait and low IQ posts.

>>106439960
that's sus

Xiaomi photography won

>>106439960
very interdasting

>>106440053
Obviously it didn't

Is the Android announcement of locking custom OS and other things going to impact Androids with OS already installed? What are the best alternatives if this is true.

>>106440093
Don't panic anon, privacy era is coming to a end. The time of freedom is ending globally. Our politicians have sold us out to the highest bidder. Palantir will make sure all phones are being tracked. It is over.

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>>106440108
The feds have all the data they could possibly need already. I still want a phone that doesn't spy on me because I hate them and I want to make their lives harder.

I need to look into Linux phones I imagine? If there are Linux with flip phone designs I'll probably get that.

>>106438794
oneplus 15 looks like that
it's over for oneplus

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>mobile gaming
L M A O
You all belong to a giant shredder.

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Need your advice /hsg/
I need a new phone that (5G, IR laster, E-SIM)
3.5 audiojack is preferable but there aren't any phones that has the above requirements, I check.
So I'm left with these that fit my budget.
>Redmi Note 14 Pro 5G and it's plus variant
>Honor 400
>Poco X7

>>106439898
I don't think modern Samsung have any custom Roms avaible. Check XDA just in case, I think someone was making One UI ports to older phones but idk if the s22 is supported

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Why shouldn't I just get an iphone 15 next year?
The only thing that made android superior was the ability of being able to easily sideload apps. With that feature taken away, I don't have any reasons to keep buying devices with this OS. iOS is literally better in every aspect (except customization) and at least I'll still be able to sideload there.
Rn refurbished iphone 14s go for 300€, I'm sure that by the next year 15s will also be a bit cheaper.

anyone has the x200fe?

seems like a good middle ground for people that want photography and not a flabphone

>>106440594
>Poco X7
I wouldn't recommend that to any one.
For that price you can get Xiaomi 14T, at least you get UFS 4.0

>>106440504
>tfw bought an ipad and an 8bitdo controller just to play mobile games
cope

>>106439092
I love the Jews though

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Which phone manufacturer gives the longest support? Samsung? Also, would A36 be a huge upgrade from A16? Considering getting one for myself and my mom, she complains about apps being slow on A16 and my Google Pixel 7a loses software support next year ; _ ;

Give it to me straight, is the S25 worth the price or should I go with Pixel 10

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Thinking of switching from calyx to lineage, how hard is it to transfer data between systems?

>>106441279
I tried both and the Samsung is way better than the Pixel if you purely look at hardware, it is not even close. If you just use it as is, the Samsung is the way to go. I am still undecided, and checking the phones out in store just made the decision harder, Pixel should only really be considered if you intend or think about installing custom ROMs etc.

>>106441255
What's the point buying new phone for long support if it's going to be slow the next year?

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>>106441279
Anon, i don't know how do prices in your country. But in my s25 ultra was 400 bucks cheaper compared to p10 xl so for me it was easy choice. Before that, i had a 9 pixel xl and it seemed like a cannon in terms of work, given that before i rocking with a oneplus 7 pro kek. So, in general, the bottom line is that s 25 is better then pixel in everything except os updated. Plus consider that not all features works on pixel -depends on the country where you living. Plus pixel is just mid phone with nice cameras

>>106441336
pretty phones dont suddenly slow down

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should i? i just want graphene os

>>106441576
I would say get at least the 8 or maybe just go for the 9 or 9a if you just want GOS, they all have >2030 support, the Pixel 7 Pro will be dropped in 2028.

>>106441255
Buy her a Pixel 9a, most carriers offer it for 99 dollars along with a 20 dollar unlimited subscription

What are your most essential apps on your phone, /spg/? For me it's probably

>Firefox
>Gmail
>Google Authenticator
>Banking app

Honourable mention to Google Photos - I barely take photos but it's good knowing they're backed up when I do take some

>>106442342
That plus a Tachiyomi fork for manga reading, WhatsApp because I'm a europoor, localsend for ad-hoc file transfers and a few for controlling my
>Smart
Home shit.

>>106442395
I have WhatsApp (I'm also European) but I just use the messages app really. Most people I know have iPhones but now there's RCS messaging between Android and iOS which is nearly as good as iMessage, so I can just use that.

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>>106439092
>installing
But saars, I'm not preventing you from installing. I'm only preventing developers who I don't like, such as newpipe, from being installable on your phone. You can sideload... er, install any google approved malware from the store like always!

>>106439556
can you please take a picture of a public place yourself ? i said public because mah dox

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Is the Pixel 10 Pro a good phone to move from an iPhone if you don’t care about mobile gaming or am I retarded for getting a phone that can’t play games

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>>106442651
IDK man, that bump is huge

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>>106442651
>mfw realizing a pixel 10 pro apple equivalent is twice the price

I was thinking of switching but reconsidering now

>>106442651
>if you don’t care about mobile gaming
stick to iphones

>>106440632
wait until google do their bullshit and if there's a way to get over it or not then make your decision

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>>106442760
you're the product anon

>>106442774
iPhones are actually way better for gaming than any Pixel

>>106442793
you mean I am the product with the pixel?
what about the apple, don't they gather constant telemetry like google and sell user data?

>>106442807
>whatboutism google!
Nobody said google isn't botnet shit too, but at least you could remove the google with a custom rom. All these AI assistants are feeding everything you say and do directly into Langley. I shiggydiggy.

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>need a new smartphone because I traveling next week and my old shitter won't do
>all sony smartphones except £1400 xperia 1VII are out of stock in UK
WTF do I even get? My journey is 8+ hours.

>>106442868
im genuinely asking if apple does it since apple faggots say its privacy oriented. apple doesnt even have an ai assistant? its just a rebranded chatgpt isnt it?

>>106442896
why sony ?

>>106442916
I don't like rounded corners and punch hole cameras. I like having headphone jack. And I like being able to expand my storage if needed. They also have good battery life usually.

>>106442916
>why sony ?
NTA, but
headphone jack
no hole punch
quality Japanese product
open source developer program
If Sony had removable batteries, it would be the perfect phone.

>>106443029
fucking lol, this general is truly the worst general Ive seen on this website

>>106443056
Guess he went into a seething fit over my posts and resorted to ""power"" abuse. Hope the mods double his pay for his hardwork

>>106443094
LOL cope more liar, no one here was fooled by the bad ai vivo pics. I live rent free in your mind.

>>106439523
I've owned every other Google phone since the nexus 5x.
They have always had shitty batteries and they keep gluing these fuckers.

Why do people care so much about camera quality? I genuinely do not understand.
>wah my picture of shit is so much better than previous shit
it's not nobody cares
photography isn't art and nobody fucking cares

>>106443138
A anon posted a ai upscale fake pic though lol
>>106439960

>>106443138
>Why do people care so much about camera quality? I genuinely do not understand.
Same. If you want a camera, buy a camera. Smartphones aren't very good cameras. No smartphone on the market can even beat a basic bitch point and shoot.

>google says they're gonna lock down side loading
>suddenly everyone i know either is saying their next phone will be an iphone or that they're gonna not buy a new phone until they know more
Why the fuck would google shoot itself in the foot like this?

>>106443165
incorrect opinion and not a fact

>>106443138
95% of the time those that care can't even see the difference

>>106443164
I don't care about any pictures.
If they're not of my loved ones then photos do not matter outside of education
your 3deep8me photo of shoes next to a lamp or some shit is retarded

>>106443179
>palantir
hebrew speakers paid off politicians to end privacy

>>106443183
again incorrect opinion and not a fact

>>106439960
nta but that for sure is a ai enhanced pic

>>106443138
I agree. But at the same time I went to a concert with my S20FE and it shat itself with unusable pics. I think good hardware still matters.
>>106443165
Phones are getting really close to point and shoots. Why carry multiple devices when you can have a mobile computer that can do the same?

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>>106439960
AI "enhancement" at its finest lmao

>>106443240
based. you understand anon.

>>106443196
I'm not convinced its isreal considering the ceo
I think they're just high off their own farts

Is there some phone along the lines of an xiaomi mi 9t pro that doesn't have some weird remote unlock needed to install ROMs?
Or just some phone that can hold a charge for two days or so and is enough to run a browser?
Im considering getting a flip phone but there are some apps you really need to use in my country but with google locking down android im getting sorta scared.

>>106443240
>Phones are getting really close to point and shoots.
kek

>>106443282
Get a flip phone with tethering and then use the extra cash to buy a nicer tablet or something

>>106442618
>Chinese
>Chinese
>Sony
I would go with the Sony

>>106442342
similar-ish
>Chromite
>K-9 mail
>Yubico Authenticator
>Droidify
>Equate
>Pixel Dungeon

>>106443262
palantir is mostly them sadly and they are behind the phone companies ending privacy and they track and report everything else. they also make ai weapons platforms.

which phones ship without google play services, which will be safe from "sideload" lock?

>>106443299
lol
>>106439506

>>106443304
No; I don't think do.
i fucking hate isreal do not get me wrong
but not in this case.

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>2022-present
>Card slot
>At least 1080p
>No notch or hole
>3.5mm jack
10 results
The absolute state of smartphones. All these things used to be standard for almost all smartphones.

>>106443290
are there some tablets with good ROMs without weird unlock procedures? I still need something easily mobile still however. Also don't mind getting something old and used, my phone is like that already, but im not really sure of how well this sort of stuff works on it and if there are even decent ROMs for it. I know that some xiaomi phones are really popular for some reason but i don't like how you need permission from china and some account to unlock it.

Just need shit like whatssapp and stuff. I have already cut away as much as possible but phones are sadly useless without it in my place and flip phones don't run it.

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>>106443333
people have reported clips where the head of palantir says surveillance is for national security and humans don't deserve to exist. many others have literally confirmed what I am telling you. even Snowden said the nsa spies on phones. palantir has contracts with multiple nations to spy on phones and more.

>>106443340
based sony

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>>106443340
sony failed though and now sells parts to samsung since its phone malfunction

>>106443406
Oh my god you are insane. Don't even bother.
>>106443382
idk man i bought a linux tablet (minisforum)

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>>106438794
>Motorola Edge 60 Neo

are any leaked specs known?

I really like my Edge 30 Neo, but security patches will no longer come from September, so thinking of switching to an Edge 50 Neo or Edge 60 Neo. IP rating seems nice too, the Edge 30 Neo doesn't have that yet.

>>106443442
>linux tablet
I already have a 2in1 running linux so i have front covered. I just need some dedicated device for that one messenger and NWO tier 2fa that doesn't track my every move. If people in my place were just using SMS i would just get a flip phone and have a pozzed phone for these other needs locked in a cage for when i need it.

But somehow someone convinced that everybody needs whatsapp and the previously perfectly good messaging method, SMS, got killed. I don't know what to do to be honest.

My A22 5g seems to be easy to flash and stuff but its not really popular in the scene and most roms i can find are made by randoms and have *EXPERIMENTAL* plastered all over the place, i don't really trust those over the stock stuff either.

>>106443430
Fuck you mean phone malfunction?

>>106443340
Can you install stuff like LineageOS or CalyxOS on any of these devices? Sounds like a dream.

I’ve got an iPhone 13 (2021). I think my plan is to get a battery replacement in 2026/2027 and then keep on using this phone until it breaks or the OS becomes so out of dates that essential apps no longer work

>>106443518
they fixed it though, also they offer free replacement for affected phones

>>106443549
Xperia phones have pretty good LineageOS support.

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>>106443518
it's not fixed lol

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>>106443615
xperia needs the ps5 team to help them

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>>106443615
the 1 vii only hardware fault was the restart and shutdown thing other than that it's a good phone

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>iphone last update this year
>battery heath at 88%
Is it worth keeping around or should I maybe look a upgrading? It's an 11, I primarily use it for my work profile/emails/calls/etc and have a personal andriod phone for anything not related. Mainly an android guy so not sure if anything I am missing by an EoL device from apple.

>>106443639
also this is picture for those asking about xperia rom support

>>106443639
>the 1 vii only hardware fault was the restart and shutdown thing other than that it's a good phone

kek!

>>106443647
i have it on my hand

>>106443662
>I have it in* my hand

sorry I can't blindly trust someone about smartphones who isn't familiarized with english yet.

>>106443549
You can even build your own google-free AOSP relatively easily.
https://developer.sony.com/open-source/aosp-on-xperia-open-devices
I'm still waiting for those 1 VI files to drop though, so you probably want to buy an older model phone if you want guaranteed support.

>>106443673
whatever, i am using it right now

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>>106443430
>be sony
>have competent ericsson team in Sweden
>constantly fuck up for them with archaic nippon samurai practices
>the swefags finally learn how to jump through all the retarded business practice hoops takahashi throws at them
>after endless fuck ups finally start getting momentum with Z series
>then fire your whole ericsson software team that actually is capable of some creative thought for some arbitrary reason and move it to Japan
>japanese software dev industry is non-existant so its kenta and satou san running the whole show being paid 30k a year while juggling deadlines and being forced to get shitface drunk with the manager every night
>all sony apps such as gallery, movies walkman etc. are cancelled cause nobody left to maintain
>camera software development completely halts
>everything halts on software, there is no sony UI its just a scavanged dead carcass of what ericsson made 8 years ago
>phone is so shit it even has to be recalled
>had the world's most famous walkman, playstation and camera branding miss the completely and completely fail at utilizing anything
>absolutely no long-term plan for the brand, software or anything. just rehash the same phone year after year, as long as buchou gets paid its all good.

is there a brand that has fucked up more

>>106441255
apparently the 7a has a widespread issue where the batteries are now swelling. I had to chuck that shit out of the house because my mom's phone was bulging and turning into a IED

>>106443693
they abandoned us
https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/device-sony-pdx245

>>106443698
>just rehash the same phone year after year
It is difficult to improve on perfection anon
No notch
3.5mm jack
OEM unlock
Open source AOSP build guides
Good LineageOS support
Solid battery life
No other company offers this
If Sony stops making phones, I will stop buying phones
Simple as

>>106443770
perfection doesn't get recalled

>>106443778
no it's totally normal look at galaxy note 7

>>106443734
It will come. It just takes a while. I'll get a 5 V in the meantime.

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>>106443770
PERFECTION...
>>106443794
note 7 isn't currently being sold lol, but the xperia is.

>>106443778
Don't care about your FUD anon. By the time the AOSP bits land, those issues are all worked out. I never buy around release date.

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>>106438857
Same anon, same. Nexus 5 wasn't 30 inches, didn't feel like 100lbs in the pocket, bootloader wasn't locked, felt like the right amount of polish from the crazy early droid days
On the plus side, I've noticed my shitty galaxy has just turned into a portable MP3 and GPS machine so these days I just turn on the super-battery saver mode and treat it as a dumb phone. No more mindless scrolling, no shitty notifications, back to a real computer
...that said, the joke about getting an iphone to get pussy does sound like the solution when the battery goes and i waste 2 weeks looking at modular phones to remember they're unfortunately shit

>>106443806
I don't even know what that is anon. Is it part of the open source project? No? Oh, then I don't care.

>>106443443
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/miami/

>Fairphone 6
>Looks cool
>Snapdragon 7s Gen3
>My Snapdragon 888 phone is still faster
damn

>>106438926
The only Motorola device I had was a Moto G 5 Plus. It had a lot of camera and audio software issues within the few updates it got.

>>106443580
>>106443693
Interesting. I just need a phone that I can feel comfortable doesn't spy on me, I can uninstall stuff including browsers and also for work having headphones I don't have to constantly charge is nice. When 2026 comes and the open-source project ends will these custom OS still be able to work or will I be screwed?

>>106444041
2026 google thing is only for devices with gapps, roms are not getting affected

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Thinking of getting Honor 400.
Is this decent mid-range with future proof?
Or I can get something better within the same price range?

Other than the meh benchmarks, is there anything that isn’t good with the Pixel 10/10 Pro? Seems like a perfectly fine phone if you aren’t a hardcore mobile gamer (and gaming on a phone is retarded, anyway). Been thinking of going back to Android and Pixel software to me seems the cleanest and least bloated on top of having good cameras.

The Vivo X200 Ultra is the best phone for daytime photos and the iPhone 16 Pro Max is the best phone for nighttime photos, you can literally compare this on GSMArena rn

>>106444071
Aren't they going to require verified developers or whatever to inject anything at all? So I have until 2026 to install the OS but as long as I do I'm good?

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Xiaomi adds overclocking
but only for their in-house chip
fuck

>>106444209
you just need a phone with unlocked bootloader and good custom.supoort

>>106444287
>only for their in-house chip
looks like that thing requires overclocking to not lag

>>106444360
Alright. It's between these Xperia models (like the Blackberry aesthetic which makes typing more apparent) or an actual flip phone that can run stuff like KaiOS. Are there any good recommendations for the latter? I only care about Signal and Telegram.

>>106444398
there's cat s22 phone or you can take a look at unihertz titan 2 (doesn't have sd card support)

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Is the Google Pixel 7 Pro any good in 2025? I can get it for 200$ in my country. How good is the battery life? What about its performance? I don't care about gaming

>>106444422
As long as it can support like 64 GB I'm good. I do care about being actually able to repair the stuff I own but that doesn't exist in phones anymore so whatever. The latter seems nicer because it has a proper keyboard since I do actually text quite a bit. No headphone jack is something I have to think about too but I guess converters exist.

>>106444508
Titan 1 has a headphone jack and is actually available. Might be better for me unless it magically becomes incapable of running Signal/Telegram.

>>106444398
one more thing to add to my post>>106444422
i don't know anything about these phones roms and root support.
one more thing to add you can wait for xperia 10 vii which is coming oct 14

>>106444547
OS changes are the reason why I'm looking so that factors in more than being new. I don't mind waiting until October if the product is significantly better but I'm noticing a lot of updates are meaningless specs upgrade in-exchange for a lot of physical features being removed and even higher costs of security. If the new Xperia still has a headphone jack and a physical SIM then great.

>>106443319
I like Samsung too. I'm just saying if I had to choose between Sony and two Chinese brands I would pick Sony.

>>106444567
i am sure sony will keep both physical sim and the 3.5 jack on the new xperia 10, so wait until it gets released
(i am feeling like a sony shill)

What are the best models for 200 to 250 dollars?

Also choosy beggar but I hate cheap phones with those system level ads and unremovable bloat

>>106438794
my edge 50 fusion is still going strong. after the (((sideloading))) (cuck newspeak term) fiasco i'm going to avoid any software updates from now on.

>>106444661
i am sure the certificate thing wont be fully integrated until Android 17

>>106444658
do you want your phone to have an sd card slot + headphone jack ?

>>106444658
nothing phones, everything else in this price point is loaded with ads
or used pixel

>>106444734
Headphone jack yes. I can manage without sdcard if its 128gb but would like 256gb

When you buy a new phone, do you fellas buy new only, or do you try used, refurbished, renewed, restored, open box?

>>106444754
actually most of phones in that price range have sd card slots

>>106444639
I've been bashing Nintendo so much same. I don't even like Sony it's just they are aware that consumers still care about physical hardware and haven't yet gone full WEF. Don't know when they will change their mind though.

>>106444104
Don’t buy honor number line it’s shit
Virtual proximity + plastic body at that price is insane.

>>106444814
What to get then?

>>106444438
my pixel 7 lasts me practically all day from getting up at 6am and at 1:30pm just browsing and playing music it's at 60% with full brightness and says it'll last until 12am

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Have had a torrid time over the past 18 months with my Nokia G42 5G. I don't do anything intensive on my phone so budget-mid phones are best for me. Paid £170. Stock Android. Seemed it would be fine.

But it's had hardware and software problems throughout. At one point had to send it in for 'repair' because it just sudoku'd itself one day and was stuck in a bootloop. But it's also got hardware issues. Screen flickers very visibly on high brightness. Recently 3.5mm jack stopped working. Had problems with a SIM from a certain network, I think the phone was to blame, had to change networks and be on a shittier deal. Also another software problem from the latest update, the navigation buttons at the bottom go missing sometimes. At least with the hardware problems I doubt a factory reset will fix them. So I will contact them again to ask them to sort this shit out for me. Most likely to send me a replacement, whether this model, or an equivalent form their 2025 range. However I don't have high hopes for Nokia/HMD, if this shit is so unreliable, so will any replacement. And I can't go nearly 2 weeks without a phone again, that was annoying to say the least. So I want to buy a new phone in the mean time whatever happens with this one. And a different brand, of course.

So I want something cheap. Super duper max limit is £200, but honestly I'd prefer it to be significantly less than that. Just browsed the Moto and Xiaomi websites, these are the ones I opened in new tabs that they are actually available (Xiaomi was out of stock for a lot of models). Any recommendations from this list?

p.s. One of them has an in-screen fingerprint sensor. What are those like? Seems like a meme to me, but I've never used it.

>>106444890
get moto g34 and load lineage once you get tired of it

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>>106444814
These are the only phones that meet my requirement.
>5G
>esim
>IR
All out of my budget

been thinking of what to upgrade from pixel 7 but I think I will after all skip Pixel 10 pro as the camera improvements are marginal and the hardware is incredibly outdated. I think the new vivo x300 or new oppo x9 are the only sensible options. or am I missing something? feels like pixel and samsung you sacrifice so much but pay the same price.

How important is 5G on a phone these days? 4G isn't going anywhere any time soon, right? And should have pretty good coverage everywhere?

>>106444304
Samsung and their phones (well anything released post 2020) don't have unlocked bootloader right? Heard something was weird especially with their US models.

It's fucking bleak out there, I don't even know what my next phone is going to be. I just want "sideloading", bros...

>>106445352
something like that.
I'm trying to unlock my Xiaomi now but its a hassle.
but you can also pay 10-20 bucks to a guy with an engineering account and get it unlocked quick.

anyone know any good software, better Foss, to backup everything to transfer to a custom ROM afterwards?

>>106445373
buy whatever phone you want right now and just don't update it

>>106445236
all good chips are 5g capable so 4g only phones are becoming more and more limited

>>106445399
swift backup

>5712 hours until bootloader is unlocked.

>>106445236
They're replacing protocols on the same frequency bands over and over to force you to buy new phone hardware every 5-10 years. Otherwise, someone could just buy a phone with a replacable battery and never need a new one again.

>>106442524
Schizo website

>>106445352
samsung phones with 7 one ui and below are unlockable for example an s25u that wasn't updated to one ui 8 can be unlocked, also only carrier locked phones have fully locked bootloaders

i made a mistake, us models are locked

Got my first GaN charger. This shit draws 0.2W just at idle, nothing connected, not even a cable. Why? None of my old traditional USB-A chargers are like this, they all idle at 0.0. Obviously I can afford 0.2W of electricity, but this shows that some shit is clearly going on inside it. I'm worried I can't leave it plugged into the wall when I'm out. Fire hazard. Is this all GaN chargers or did I just get a spectacularly shit one?

Brehs should I wait for the Oneplus15?

>>106445521
>>106445504
RIP. Design wise the Samsung notes actually seemed useful for work but they required their own SIM cards which made me not want them. I'm most likely getting a Unihertz Titan since I want a dumbed down phone with good privacy and the aesthetics on the phone is phenomenal. If I were to get a touch screen phone the Sony ones have headjacks which is a huge plus.

>>106445633
should have bought anker. my stuff idles at 0.

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Xiaome best sirs.

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Poco best sirs.

>>106445651
but the titan is stuck on android 11 and has zero updates, i see no problem on you getting it if you don't care about that but just wanted to warn you, also if you want a samsung you can do as i said buy a phone with oneui 7

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OnePlus best sirs.

>>106445651
>>106445797
you can buy eu models

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Poco best mobile sirs!
Mold is a exclusive feature sir!

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Xperia best sirs!

>>106445804
You can cherrypick any model and do the same

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Samsung Fold 7 won.

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Phones are plastic shit now.
Even premium one comes with plastic frame.

>>106445827
Maximum Coping.
See: >>106438986

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>>106445804
>oneplus 5
>oneplus nord 2
>oneplus one
samsung best sir

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L M A O

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pixel best sirs!

>>106445863
Compare the prices

>>106445857
You posted old phones that are not currently being made and sold. All the posts I made are of phones still being made that are blowing up. Typical low iq reply. Many such cases.

>>106445877
give me a proof that oneplus 5 is still being sold ?

>>106445871
more old phones while new xiaome phones are blowing up.

>>106445875
only the impoverished worry about the price of a phone. $1,300 is not expensive. LOL!

>>106445871
can you please get a trip...

>>106445890
I am not arguing with someone who can't even properly speak english. 99% of the time you are from india and it isn't worth my time.

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New mobile chips coming soon from the most advanced chip maker in the world.

>>106438794
I'm very happy with the S25 I got, upgrading from a Moto G4 was huge. I've been using it a couple days and now I can see why people use phones so much.

>>106445905
what does me being an esl has to do with our topic ?

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Android 16 is amazing. Unfortunately Google doesn’t release it so fast for everyone. I guess they don’t care about certain companies.

>>106445913
congrats on getting a Samsung and ditching the lower end motorola.

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Smartphone purchases really change based on the region and the population’s income.

>>106445936
sir replay to me sir
>>106445915
i asked you sir give proof oneplus 5 is sold now

>>106445927
Thanks. It's nice to comfy post and read while lying in bed, I couldn't do that before with the G4 because it was so fucking slow lmao.

>>106445919
>>106445936
sir give proof oneplus one is sold

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Benchmarks and reviews from reputable websites will be posted in SPG.
This is our only defense we have against people that come in to this thread and lie. It's nothing personal against anybody's favorite device. It's just the simple facts. Nobody is out to get you, but when you're openly coming into this thread and lying and then getting upset when you get called out for it that's just ridiculous.

>>106445956
sir nanoreview your website is honeybot sir

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It's actually really interesting being the only person that is openly posting screenshots from two reputable websites consistently that is being targeted by multiple people that are posting false information. I wonder why? Liars are strange. This is a smartphone general and I'm literally posting about phones. Imagine posting lies itt and expecting us to never check Versus or NanoReview or other websites. Never blindly trust these liars without double checking. Most of the people itt are lying about a cheapo budget friendly device being a high quality phone. It's a problem unfortunately with lower IQ individuals.

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Samsung and Apple Just Can't Stop Winning.
Apple and Samsung Chads We Won.

>>106445964
sir nanoreview is just fake reviews sir it only give checks next to nothing sir

>>106445976
sir apple made in india sir i wil never wash my hand wile warking sir

>>106444041
I'm rocking an Xperia 5III I bought April 2024. I get weekly LineageOS updates. Sadly, thought the battery health is claimed to be good in the settings, I get poor battery life. I suggest you buy the 5V or 1V.

>>106445936
Almost like Apple products are cheaper in North America than literally anywhere else.

>>106446394
not by much and same goes for others brands outside the USA

pixel 10a will have tensor g4, ufs 3.1 and no telephoto
what's even the point to buy this over 9a?

>>106438871
in the US your best option is buying a refurbished last years S model cause they lose value fast despite being good phones. motorola sells gimped shit in the US. add 50 bucks and try to find a used S23

>>106445136
why is your screen poo colored

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>>106446424
It's quite significant if you compare it to Google for example.
>pixel 9a US price: $499 UK price: £399
>iphone 16e US price: $599 UK price: £599
Bullshit.

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Should I buy a iPhone 13 Mini?

>>106446522
red light filter

>>106446522
also you see it like that because your device can't decode 10bit and you have enabled red filter.
So it's on you not me.

>>106438871
Motorola if you want a headphone jack
Samsung if you want a bunch of accessories

Who's best for budget phones these days - Moto or Xiaomi?

>>106446622
that's not how a png screenshot works LMAO!!!!!

>>106446636
>Samsung if you want a bunch of accessories
what if I want chinese?

>>106446659
LOL

>>106439783
I'm running LineageOS on Fairphone without microg or anything. It's bretty good so far.

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How many years does it take AMOLED to burn in these days?
Last time I used AMOLED was with my first smartphone, a Galaxy S2. 2 years in and the top bar had burned inpretty significantly. Ever since then I've stuck with LCD. I hear AMOLED is a lot better now - but is that true, or just marketing/cope?

>>106446647
if you love tinkering and custom roms - xiaomi
if you just want custom roms after end of life - motorola

>>106438794
>>106438857
Now that jewgle is jewing out, are modern Huawei phones Android-based and/or install APKs? I wanted a Samshit phone but now I'm considering the chinkpill

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I got a S25 ultra for 422 dollarinos with a cheap plan for six months. The phone feels silky smooth. Amazing!

>>106446760
I've used AMOLED phones for 9 years now and never had a burn in, I guess it only happens if you fell asleep and have screen timeout turned off

>>106446805
the west is just speedrunning everyone (including its own citizens) turning away from it
i swear our rulers have lost their minds these past few years
the mask is off, they are nakedly at war against every aspect of quality of life of the average person
the goverment, the corporations
why the hell are they chimping out like this?

>>106446838
who nose :^)

>>106446760
>physical clicky home button
>capacitive back and app drawer keys (or was it a menu key at the time?)
UGH....S O V L.....

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>>106439022
What the fuck happened? The 7050 was faster than a Snapdragon 6 Gen 1. You mean to tell me the update to the 7060 is 30% slower?

>>106446849
6-12 months of public online criticism of israel was enough for them to go to start locking down the internet and all devices
lol

>>106446827
what service?

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NanoReview is better.

>>106446760
My S10 still has a pristine screen. I suppose you can fuck up any OLED if all you do is watch tiktok slop 8 hours a day at max brightness like a retard.

Will sideloading really get shut down by android? If so, I might as well buy my first iPhone next year. What's the point of an android if you can't use the only feature that stands out over iOS?

>>106446760
i have a galaxy note 4 that's been used to death everyday from 2014 to 2020 and to this day it doesn't have a single burn in on it's amoled

>>106446961
>Will sideloading really get shut down by android?
nobody knows what's actually going to happen, so wait

some phones have pixel shifting that helps it not get image burn in when aod is on.

>>106446961
android is still a decade ahead of apple in everything else though.
and apple has insane idiot index price.

>>106446996
relax bro your opinion is not fact

>>106447010
common knowledge is not my opinion

>>106447017
Apple is way ahead of any android pbone makers manufacturing because they sell more phones over any android made yearly and they make pcs too. the a18 and m4 is not bad at all. you are fanboy posting lies itt.

>>106447060
ah, you're the schizo.

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iPhone will be the only option for side loading until the EU passes laws that forces Google to do what Apple had to do.

https://youtu.be/L1S0SiBuJN8?si=8OvC12dzMfAdDhxU

>>106447069
presenting facts with sources instead of blurting out opinions isn't what a schizo is. LOL.
If you can't afford a iPhone Pro Max or a iPad Pro with a M4 that doesn't mean it is bad kid.
See:
>>106446925
>>106438968

>>106447080
apple sideloading is cucked and existed before eu law

>>106447101
sir yes apple is good sir made in india very good sir

>>106447111
except android at least has the option of custom roms.
simple fact is that if there is enough demand, phones with unlockable bootloaders will always exist.

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stop consooming smartphone slop and get yourself a nokia

>>106447111
it works fine for plenty of people. you don't need to lie. either you pay a $99 a year for a dev license or plug into a pc every 7 days for revanced and other side loaded apps.
to get no ads you use the brave browser or download a dns ad blocking profile.
no jailbreak is needed.

this is easier on my androids (pixel 9 pro xl and s25 ultra) but what will happen after google locks the os down who knows. apple might just lock it down too, but it has not said it will and google has said it will.

i really dont care about roms, but downloading apks and installing them is cool and that might be over.

We need new

>>106447165
i don't think it's feasible to buy an iphone right now thinking it's the only option for freedom when we don't even know what google will actually do, apple installation limit of 7 days is ultra cucking me out of my phone

>>106447165
>plug into pc every 7 days
holy fuck imagine defending being a cuck.

8gb must become the minimum amount of RAM on android.

Next

>>106447215
>>106447215
>>106447215

any anons who upgraded for s24u to s25u? what made you to pull the trigger?

adb install is for installing apps
adb sideload is for installing roms in recovery
know the difference potheads

>>106444749
Sounds good thanks

>>106443706
just get it repaired at a phone shop; google has a recall on 6a and 7a batteries they'll replace it for free