>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

BUY SAMSUNG DRIVES!

>>106439059
That cat might damage the computer. Be careful

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Should i do three line method or P method for paste on my cpu when it arrives?(amd). Or any other supreme /g/ method?

>>106439496
manual spread with a credit card

>>106439496
computers are more expensive for everyone because of weirdos like you

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1n4bati/jayztwocents_reproduces_ssdkilling_issue_on/

oh joy more things to be concerned about woooooo
microsoft and nvidia teaming up to fuck everyone in the ass this year huh

>>106439528
and honestly this seems like it has nothing to do with microsoft specifically because there are people in that thread on windows 10 with the same problem

>>106439062
>24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super
Why would nvidia do this, when they can funnel the 'not-pro-wannabe-pro' market towards 5090 for anything greater than 16gb and force them to pay $2-$3k for it?

>>106439527
nyo.... i havent built a new pc in 8 years though:( and dw i got a standard black case, even though id love something like the lcd screen in webm lol

>>106439496
what am i seeing here? the side panel is a holographic screen?

>>106439528
Pause Windows 11 updates,, you can do it for up to a month. But be very careful you check it doesn't unpause itself. i paused it earlier today and after 11:59pm, it unpaused itself and prompted me to upgrade on reboot. Hitting pause again will fix that. I guess that's the price for infecting your computer with the cancer that is windows.

>and honestly this seems like it has nothing to do with microsoft specifically
Are there any instances of similar failure on Linux? Interestingly enough I have the same hd as Jay (1TB variant) and I don't have so much as a peep despite lots of R/W and regular (daily) usage.

>>106439557
or is it ai? i hate the internet

>>106439550
>though id love something like the lcd screen in webm lol
see >>106439527

>>106439528
>phison said they couldnt reproduce the problem
lol they were caught lying

>>106439496
for me it's the swastika

>>106439528
so then this article was fake news? https://www.theverge.com/news/768431/windows-update-didnt-brick-your-ssd

>>106439528
i am still recovering from march - june when like several different things were causing bluescreens on my computer
>nvidia drivers causing bluescreen/reboot with fg and dlss4
>microsoft bluetooth drivers causing bluescreen reboot in wilds
>monitor firmware causing freeze/reboot when waking from sleep
I think I developed psychosis from all the gaslighting

>>106439604
No. This issue predates the windows update. It has been an issue for years apparently.

>>106439604
it depends whether you trust independent testing by various users of product, or trust manufacturers of said product or software more

>>106439647
>deleted
luigi'd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbFIUu_7LIc
It's over

>>106439759
scroll up nigga

>>106439752
if that was my post, i deleted it because i got too mad and started spewing unhinged nonsense. anyways, you seemingly cant disable windows updates reliably by pausing -- for me it installed the update anyway. So I guess the best way is to pause updates, and delete that particular update (3878) once it forces itself in

>>106439496
>put on a blob, install heatsink.
>pull off to check if anyone cares
>add smaller blob
>install with a twist this time
>take off to check if anyone still cares
>stare at it
>stop caring
>reinstall it
>install os.
>beat off

>>106439765
>We’re not saying any company is above lying to the public, and Microsoft has a history of rocky update rollouts, but both Microsoft and Phison claim
fat body is fuggin annoying, but i trust him to not want to be sued into oblivion.

>>106439780
>gues
kek i know that feel. tried to write 5 reviews for some shingled HDD's that wernt labeled that from newegg before i gave up fuming to never use that site again.

>>106439780
happened to me too. the updates come anyway even after pausing updates

what you should be doing is using insider builds and raw dogging changes/bugs as they come out on a weekly basis

>>106439836
no im moving to linux instead

>>106439059
>tranimal

>>106439836
my favorite insider build was the one that fucked up group policy stuff on a hidden microsoft partition and even if you reinstalled windows it would keep fucking up your install unless you either completely wiped the drive or used some commands the retards in charge of the insider program put at the bottom of one blog post where nobody looks

>In response, Phison dedicated over 4,500 cumulative testing hours to the drives reported as potentially impacted and conducted more than 2,200 test cycles.
So what the fuck was Phison doing in all those tests?

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>>106439546
>Why would nvidia do this, when they can funnel the 'not-pro-wannabe-pro' market towards 5090 for anything greater than 16gb and force them to pay $2-$3k for it?
Supposedly the original intent was to use 3GB VRAM chips. But there were delays and they had to use 2GB chips instead. Remember there was only an 8GB gap between the 4080 and 4090. Also, the 5090 isn't selling well if priced >10% above MSRP. So I'm not sure how many people they're going to be funneling up to the top end.

>>106439968
Zotac is so mid that nobody wants to buy from them

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to my surprise this isn't the common poorly over engineered German shit I see most of the time. They're still using way to many different size bolts, but it's better than what I normally see from German designs.

>>106440149
>not even sizing the interconnect wire length right
he must have been an engineering school dropout

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1. Do I get a separate SSD for win OS?
2. Is ASUS a bad mobo brand? Wanna get an ASUS TUF Gaming 850-Plus wifi
3. How big is the actual difference between mini-led and oled?

>>106440220
yes

asus is bad unless you pay extra for a strix or crosshair/maximus board

no idea

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>>106439496
>apply a pea-sized blob of Crest Complete
>tighten down the cooler
>say "fuck it" and enjoy using your computer

What's the best PSU and case for this build?
i'm argy and my budge it's $1.5K mylaw pesos
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8W6rFZ

>>106440243
Depends entirely on what's available in your country. I wouldn't go lower than 550W and 80+ Gold efficiency* but these are commodities so the "best PSU" comes down to setting minimum standards and price-shopping.

*Mainly because nobody makes good Bronze/Silver units any more. The electricity savings are minimal.

>>106440223
Main benefit of an extra OS SSD over partitioning?

Why are asus mobos bad exactly? What would you recommend instead for around the same price?

>>106440288
>Main benefit of an extra OS SSD over partitioning?
Its easier to manage a separate OS drive and secondary data drive for OS reinstallations and if you run out of space, upgrading drives separately will also help avoid issues like having to change partition sizes during drive cloning which is annoying to do in windows

Asus very recklessly cuts out features on their lower end boards ending up with trash like their b850 prime series which runs their vrms at 138C with a 9950x under load. the tuf isn't that far away from the prime in build quality.

>>106440288
>What would you recommend instead for around the same price?
I'd recommend looking at msi's tomahawk or gigabyte's aorus elite

>>106440220
>Wanna get an ASUS TUF Gaming 850-Plus wifi
My motherboard failed earlier this week and I was considering that or the MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk Max because both were in stock locally and went with the MSI due to: lower price, two PCIe 5.0 x4 NVMe slots, better audio codec, PCIe 4 x4 slot at the bottom where it will clear my massive video card if I need it, extra 8 pin PCIe power connector for the PCIe slots, better NIC (not that I can use 5Gbps right now), and more USB-C ports on the back. But your needs and wants may differ.

>>106440243
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gsLX6D
best I can do
but like the other anon said, depends on country
since your power draw is low you may be tempted to go lower than 550w but I personally wouldnt even go lower than 650w. Most low wattage psu are dogshit that will bite you in the ass sooner or later

>>106440287
>>106440375
thanks anons

an updoot on that bios update. it seems they changed the retraining behavior (i cant get it to force a retrain every boot anymore) even with mcr disabled.

>>106440288
>Main benefit of an extra OS SSD over partitioning
Why would you do any of that? You can just add another drive for storage, we're not booting off hdds anymore. Install to your main ssd or to a second one, who cares?

I thought it over and decided on msi mpg x870e carbon for my 9950x3d. Fuck it, I'll pay more but get a more robust solution.

>>106440431
>why would you do that
1. I tend to fill my ssds to the brim with data. I heard they get slower when theyre filled up. It's why the second OS drive never slows down
2. Reinstallation and formation seems easier
3. I will use it for a very long time, so if the OS SSD dies I still have all my files.

>>106440463
In that case a second drive specific for your "data" might be good. If you're really filling up these drives maybe an hdd would be a better option. Do you really need to use ssds for this?

>>106440516
The data includes games and applications so yes I guess?

>>106440516
>why yes I use a 8tb nvme drive to torrent, how could you tell?

>>106440149
Xylem's pumps are hungarian pieces of literal garbage assembled by stinky gypsy in sweat-shops.

>>106440523
Unless you're on a metered connection or your internet is just slow, I don't see the point of keeping that many games installed at once. If you do need them, then yeah, I would just setup a second drive and direct steam installs to it.

>>106440220
There's nothing wrong with the asus boards if you debloat them before installing windows. There's a lot you have to turn off in the bios, search on youtube there's a video about it.

>>106440427
i had to flashback the bios. it got so fucked that it stopped seeing all but 1 fan fan. shame.

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>>106439059
Another pny rtx5000 got it's capacitor blown off. You might want to tell anons to avoid pny until this is fixed

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>>106440561
I went with Apex VPP

>>106440220
>3. How big is the actual difference between mini-led and oled?
One will last you at least 10 years the other will have the word "KEK" faintly etched into it after 3 months and getting progressively more visible each month afterwards.

>>106440701
Bro, they can withstand 105C. It means that VRM's temperature exceeds this value.

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Day5 FAFO'ing with G80SD
>just woke up and testing, after 7minutes on it black screened for 2-3 seconds before returning confirmed
It's over

>pixel shift overshoot testing yet to be confirmed
>>106438342

>>106440874
I warned you, dumb consumerist.

>>106440815
they can withstand up to 125C
maybe they're getting above that or pny got screwed by their supplier who sold them trash

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>>106439059
sup pcbg
which one is to get

1.KLEVV CRAS V RGB Brilliant White DDR5 PC48000 6000MHz 32GB (2x16GB) 30-36-36-76 - KD5AGUA80-60A300J

2.KLEVV CRAS V RGB Obsidian Black DDR5 PC48000 6000MHz 32GB (2x16GB) 30-36-36-76 - KD5AGUA80-60A300G

3.KLEVV URBANE V RGB DDR5 PC48000 6000MHz 32GB (2x16GB) 30-36-36-76 - KD5AGUA80-60A300M

4.KLEVV BOLT V Pure White DDR5 PC51200 6400MHz 32GB (2x16GB) 30-38-38-78 - KD5AGUA80-64B300I

5.KLEVV BOLT V Charcoal Grey DDR5 PC51200 6400MHz 32GB (2x16GB) 30-38-38-78 - KD5AGUA80-64B300H

6.KLEVV BOLT V Charcoal Grey DDR5 PC48000 6000MHz 32GB (2x16GB) 30-36-36-76 - KD5AGUA80-60A300H

7.KLEVV BOLT V Charcoal Grey DDR5 PC48000 6000MHz 32GB (2x16GB) 30-36-36-76 - KD5AGUA80-60A300H

8.KLEVV BOLT V Charcoal Grey DDR5 PC48000 6000MHz 32GB (2x16GB) 30-36-36-76 - KD5AGUA80-60A300H

>>106440935
Which cpu.
Does your mobo support all of them?

>>106440942
cpu 7500F
motherboard b650m-p msi

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>>106440931
Dude, you don't even imagine HOW hot VRM can be before it explodes and your card burns. This cooler is a total piece of crap, I can certainly see why it failed. I had such shitty cooler on my 3070ti and it limited my card on 200 watts.

>>106440946
2.KLEVV CRAS V RGB Obsidian Black DDR5 PC48000 6000MHz 32GB (2x16GB) 30-36-36-76 - KD5AGUA80-60A300G

>>106440946
> motherboard b650m-p msi
I ain't looking up the ram compatibility for you.

>>106440953
>>106440954
so no 2 sar?

>>106436838
>thinkin ill start fresh with a new drive and start using W11 (if it's not actually a colossal piece of shit)
I hope you don't have SSD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbFIUu_7LIc

>>106437017
>I've had a bad experience with used cards, don't want to gamble
Looks like skill issue. I've bought 3 and sold 5. Just ask for a video of GPU working with a timestamp on a piece of paper.

>>106437764
The black is great but how do you read anything on that shit?

>>106439496
I did 3 lines and it's fine

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>this is what oledshills consider usable
Sick blacks bro, now read anything on the monitor

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>>106441055
I've accepted that IPS is good enough for me, no matter what inky blacks and popping colors OLEDs might have. It's not worth the price on a large screen, keep that shit in my pocket.

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>big youtuba
>has 9800x3d on asrock mobo in his test bench
>didn't yet made a video how it exploded
I guess issue was overblown afterall

>>106441115
if asrock is the problem, why aren't we seeing ryzen 7000 dying en masse like ryzen 9000 on their boards?

>>106441115
He has enough money to not care if it explodes.
But do you?

>>106441125
from what I've seen AMD replaces them on a warranty

>>106441132
Must be nice living in a 1st world country.
Out here in the 3rd world we gotta buy reliable tech.

>>106440664
looking around a bit more, they also changed the default llc for SOC. im not going to scour these settings for changes... ill stick with old i guess.

>>106441142
>Must be nice living in a 1st world country. Out here in the 3rd world we gotta buy reliable tech
How is that anybody else's problem but your own keep coping

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>>106440950

>>106441115
tfw fighting for my life right now, if I should get a 9800x3d and then punch my ballsack, because I can't decide what mobo, or just get a 7800x3d and get some 650 beater

>>106441123
if asrock isn't the problem, why aren't we seeing ryzen 9000 burning en masse on other mobos?

>>106441204
7800x3d is way more efficient anyway so use that until zen6/7

>>106441226
But we are

Europoor here, can you build a gaming PC that can play decently all of the AAA games with around 800 euros?

>>106441228
clock for clock the 9800x3d is more efficient

>>106441322
Only in theory. In the real world, 7800x3d has strict power/current limits and uses 60-70% as much power for 90% of the performance.

9950x3d!

>>106441340
>in theory
eco mode exists in reality

>>106441367
>Fafoing in bios
Lol lmao even

>>106441422
Are you suggesting that its going to explode by turning DOWN the voltage, or that its somehow more complicated to click eco mode than it is to turn on expo?

My second monitor wakes up faster than my main monitor and that fucks up my window arrangement (discord on the left, browser on the right) every time I leave my PC for 10 minutes and the screens turn off. Is there any way to fix this beyond getting a different monitor or turning this feature off?

>>106441396
>>>/vt/

>>106441542
>I leave my PC for 10 minutes
Skill issue.

>>106440930
>G80SD
was on sale for 300€ less than any competing model of same size

>>106440874
have you tried updating the firmware

>>106441619
>he fell for it
Heh.

>>106441626
I think most people would be fine with <600€ for a 32" 4k oled from 2024

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how are AMD and Incel GPU's at emulation, PCSX2 in particular? in my place NVIDIA is extremely overpriced and so is AMD kind of. truth be told it's all GPU's that are overpriced but NVIDIA is the worst offender. I don't need anything flashy, just stable 60 fps @ 1080p in PCSX2 and being able to run old PC titles from 00s without visual artifacts. my options are
>6600
>3050 8gb
>Arc A580
they're all about the same price with 3050 being the worst spec wise but at least I'm 100% sure it will run THUG2 properly

>>106441241
Just a rtx 4060 8gb costs 320xeuros
A i5 14600k costs 180 euros
Already 500 euros just for processor and gpu

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Please rate my NAS. I have never had a NAS or home server before. It will contain all my movies and films. I'll connect it to my router and watch movies on my main pc from it. I plan to add more drives but for now, I'll just have one big one.

The mobo is for the 2.5gb/s ethernet, but willing to be told that it's overkill
I could not find any known PSUs on pc partpicker that fit, so that's why it's a seemingly random one

>>106441667
you won't regret the faster ethernet, if anything you'll regret not getting 10gbe in the future

Are 240 AIOs even worth it compared to a good double tower? My case cant fit 280 or 360. Its for a 7800x3d.

>>106441230
Prove it.

>>106441499
nobody tested the chip for stability at 65W tdp. good fucking luck if it even works well lmao

opinion on this budget upgrade from my old ryzen am5 3600?
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/3Wn4xH
I am not sure about Mainboards, too dumb for that shit
its either this or spend 200-300 bux more for a 9800x3d and fitting mobo

>>106441735
it will keep it significantly cooler for most loads
sustained high loads is where a dual tower will be more equal

>>106440701
>pny
Have any workstation GPUs by pny been effected or just the gamer models ?

>>106441756
9800x3d would be good if you can afford it
get some b850 mobo with wifi for it that fits the color scheme of your build

>>106441659
I was running PCSX2 on a fucking Celeron E3300 and GT630 combo back in 2013 (albeit with speedhacks), you'll be fine with ANYTHING made in the last 5 years.
Hell, most phones can emulate PS2 by now. My Galaxy S23 can. This old bastard Xperia I have with Snapdragon 835 also, just barely, is able to do it.

>>106441766
I don't care about colours, so its whatevs on the Mainboard front. but yea, prolly just gonna get the 9800x3d and ride it out for 10 years

>>106441752
if you think eco mode is running out of spec you're retarded
its not the same as undervolting or curve offset

>>106441785
theres some mysterious mobo issues with it, asrock is commonly cited as problematic despite bios updates
Asus stuffs armoury crate which is worst software on the planet so avoid those 2

msi should be fine

>>106441659
Both AMD and Intel GPUs are very good for emulation since they support vulkan well.
Anything you list is sufficient for native resolution PS3 emu and upressed PS2

>>106441790
will remember that, thanks

>>106441788
those things weren't binned for lower power
good luck if you have a chip that only runs 4.2ghz or 4.8ghz at 65w because of silicon lottery
anyway buying a more expensive chip to gimp it so you can get efficiency is as retarded as you arguing about theoretical whatifs

>>106441791
isn't intel terrible for older games though? when their first GPU's came out I watched people try and play stuff like Far Cry 2, Half-Life 2 etc and not only did it ran like shit but was also full of visual errors. I really have 0 interest in modern games and being able to play 00s titles as well emulate consoles are my only two concerns

>>106441831
That was with old renderers like opengl and dx9 and arc did suffer bad at first with those .
You won't run into those problems with modern emus like PCSX2 that support vulkan or dx12.

If you to run those old games with thier native renderers I think a nvidia 4000 series or lower is your best option but i myself use AMD and just translate old shit to vulkan with mesa .

Another black screen flicker added I'm starting to question if I am schizo or not, paranoia increasing, Hypochondria increasing by the minute, or it's just blinking

>>106440930
Nope you did not

>>106441083
you are choosing between negatives on every tech
regarding black screening, LG 4k 144hz monitors had countless reports of people fucking up and flickering with that shit
cable? dsc? monitor hardware? software? idk

>>106441542
pretty sure people have written about various fixes all over
why don't you just disable sleep timers on monitors to begin with

>>106441619
>was on sale for 300€ less than any competing model of same size
only 165€ cheaper than the lowest other one here, which would be the philips, which I already tried and complained about the firmware

>have you tried updating the firmware
been running the latest firmware since day 1, 5 days ago yes on first start up of the monitor

>>106441878
try upgrading to 5080 super type gpu
maybe the black screens are fixed on that

Who are actual good unbiased youtubers

>>106441890
linus tech tips
drama nexus
hardware unboxed
digital foundry

>>106441896
poisoned the well with that first one

>>106441890
The only youtube review channel that isn't on someone's payroll is the guy who reviews fast food in a suit

>>106441912
isn't that guy homeless

>>106441922
Thats how you know he's credible .

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WHERE THE HELL IS IT

STILL NOT FOR SALE

IT'S BEEN MONTHS

JAYZ2CENTS HAS HAD ONE FOR MONTHS THEY WORK SELL IT ALREADY

>>106441869
>just translate old shit to vulkan with mesa .
yeah this is what I want to avoid because ngl I have no fucking idea what this sentence means and I'd rather not go into this rabbit hole. is getting NVIDIA the only option if I just want to play THUG2 in peace without having to deal with compatibility issues?

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>B580 is a (((budget))) card
>almost 400€ (almost 470$)
>check US prices
>250$, maybe less if I search harder
>meanwhile US salaries are 3x than the EU

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>>106441949

>>106441667
Why are Mini ITX cases so expensive?

>>106441964
cheapest good gpu in europe is 5070 at <600€

>>106441964
you forgot about their bankruptcy causing healthcare costs, high rents, expensive+bad schools and poisonous foods they have to eat daily

>>106441964
Welcome to the realization you're just part of "the rest of the world".

>>106441973
With fewer buyers in that segment, manufacturers aim for a higher profit per unit sold.

>>106441984
>eating poison but playing vidja at 4k 60fps
eh, looks good for me

>>106442005
This is my actual plan for the afternoon

>>106441964
orange man said you're taking advantage of us though so get fucked

>>106441973
Tasteless hipster tax
Build a matx or mod mini PCs

>>106442026
Your cards are made in China THOUGH

>>106442026
While trump sucks for the entire world its hard to blame americans for voting against the dems
What the fuck are they doing

>>106442026
but he fucked us by tariffing goods that we pay for

>>106441973
its more because its a NAS case than it being an ITX case

>>106441922
No? He lives in a big house. He had a problem a while ago where some random person was ding dong ditching his home while on camera.

>>106442027
>>106442039
Oh, fair enough.

>>106441951
I really doubt you will have a problem playing that game with either intel or AMD and there will be workarounds if there is but yes nvidia is the best "just works" windows solution for old games just avoid 5000+ series since that has acceleration problems in some old games

>>106441973
Aesthetics tax

>>106441667
For a NAS wouldn't 16GB of RAM be just fine?

>>106441973
because jensen was right and the more (metal) you buy the more you save

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>>106441949
Its one of those things that only exists in reviewers' hands

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Hello bros

I've never build or tweak pc parts before but I'm about to upgrade my CPU from 7600X to 7800x3D.

I use B650M Pro RS Asrock with 7600X + 4070Ti Super

I'm going to try to replace the CPU myself, been watching tutorials how to replace but none of them tells me what precaution I should be doing.

Should I update my BIOS first? Do I need to tweak anything in the BIOS? I tweaked and undervolted my 7600X in the BIOS so do I need to revert it to default? Do I need to revert secureboot?

This is my first time, so please be gentle with me

>>106442098
just put it in and do all that other stuff after

>>106442098
yes update the bios first. the bios update will factory reset your bios so you wont have to revert anything. also the best practice is to reset to defaults before flashing the bios.
not sure about secureboot since i never use that on my desktops

>>106442098
update to latest bios and it'll reset everything
dont stick thermal paste on the pin contacts

if your thermal paste is really dried the cpu might be stuck to the cooler. Try sidewides movement to loosen it up

>>106442104
>>106442109
>>106442112
I just need a USB stick and put the new BIOS innit then do a BIOS flash right?

>>106441964
where the hell do you live, that its 400 bux. every online shop I know has it for ~260 euros

>>106442121
follow asrock bios update guide

>>106442069
it would work but zfs loves ram

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GN videos are much more enjoyable at x0.9 speed. Learn to enunciate and stop trying to go through things as fast as possible, Steve.

>>106441970
>AS OF JULY 22, 2025
IT'S DAMN NEAR SEPTEMBER
WHERE THE HELL IS IT

>>106442167
that article is <2 weeks old

>>106442082
Based, fuck consumers

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>>106439059
Current old monitor is dying. Will I have buyer's remorse getting the current best OLED monitors since the tandem shit is right around the corner? Also any reason to avoid ASUS's 27" 4k one? It's not in the OP list, but I kinda want their presence detection thingy which isn't on the 32" version for some reason. I'm a linuxfag with a 7900xtx if that affects anything.

>>106442213
you could buy a 65" tandem oled tv right now

>>106442217
I want a monitor. Working on a 65" tv sounds like hell.
>inb4 OLED burn-in le bad for work
My laptop and phone have held up extremely well.

>>106442231
Id get ips for work so I dont have to worry about burn in
then use the 65" tv for anime and games

>try Expedition 33 on a 6Gb card (low settings)
>OOMed
Is 16Gb the new minimum for GPUs now?

>>106442275
Now?

>>106442275
>16
24

>>106442243
This seems terribly inconvenient unless you have a massive amount of desk space. Also TVs are cucked with only HDMI, which doesn't work at high resolution+refresh rate on AMD+linux due to HDMI forum jewry.

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>>106442275
It's 8GB like the system requirements state

>>106442331
The monitor would be on the desk and tv on a stand somewhere a 3m hdmi cable reaches

>>106442213
>Will I have buyer's remorse getting the current best OLED monitors since the tandem shit is right around the corner?
Probably, but your monitor's dying.
Buy discounted models if the monitor isn't DisplayHDR TrueBlack 500 certified or if the WOLED monitor doesn't have a TrueBlack Glossy panel finish.

>Also any reason to avoid ASUS's 27" 4k one? It's not in the OP list, but I kinda want their presence detection thingy which isn't on the 32" version for some reason.
There are cheaper 32" 4K OLED monitors, and the new TrueBlack Glossy WOLED panel finish isn't available for any 27" 4K monitors atm.
The presence detection isn't necessary if you set a shorter idle display power-off schedule.

>>106439059
Is this a good deal for $2K? I have never built a PC before and these guys seem legit.

https://costplusgaming.com/products/enthusiast-tier-m1-flow?variant=51359893782802

>>106442515
nows a good time to build a pc by yourself

>>106442515
the raw specs arent bad, but them not listing the actual parts, especially in regards to ram and the m.2 storage, are huge red flags.

Also Asrock have the worst rep for everything, and you're buying their motherboard AND psu in this build. I would purchase neither. Find your local pc store and get them to build what you want for the going rate. Installing winblows 10/11 aswell. Its always been the best choice, assuming you HAVE a local pc store to go to, America is weird like that, very anti-small business.

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To make your GPU. Topological map is required HAHA.
There micro mountains and hobbits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2482h_TNwg

>>106442607
>american sub 80 iq audiences doc narration voice

ugh

>>106442591
>SN850X
How is something like this? I am trying to keep it around $2K USD. Thanks!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VVgBVF

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>>106442619
Stop cumplaning and watch.

>>106442515
>Cheap case
>Probably reference model video card
>Mystery meat SSD, PSU
>MSI mATX board with one of the worst VRM cooling (still safe for 9800X3D)
Build this instead; you can save some money on the video card and motherboard.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3QxHyW

The ASRock PSU in my list is not a meme; it's made by FSP (high-tier OEM).

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>>106442650
I'll stick to pic related to tell me about lithography
or high yield channel

MSI MAG B850M MORTAR WIFI
MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI

ASUS ROG STRIX B850-G GAMING WIFI
ASUS ROG STRIX B850-F GAMING WIFI

So uhh, i think tomahawk is the one i should go?

Cuz asus could break the gpu.
https://www.techpowerup.com/331578/reports-suggest-asus-quick-release-system-inflicting-physical-damage-on-gpu-pcie-interfaces

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>>106442630
Avoid MSI Ventus cards if you can; they're deliberately making them run loud to upsell people to their better cards.
$840 for the Gaming Trio 5070 Ti isn't too bad because these were never specced to be sold at $750.
At worst, you're paying about $40~50 extra.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-ventus-3x/
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-gaming-trio-oc/

>>106442657
>>106442692
Thanks for this! Also is it worth getting a 27" 1440 monitor or should I just stick to my 24" 1080?

Just uninstalled KB5063878. Recently I had an odd issue with my RGB, being controlled by MSI Mystic Light, outputting a flat green color whenever the system has not yet had an "active" desktop instance. Meaning after restarting or waking from sleep but not yet logged in, and when going to sleep. Not sure when it started but definitely this month, left it alone to observe. Now that I've uninstalled this update the lighting is able to be controlled by Mystic Light right from startup and so no green output, so it is almost certainly caused by the update. The description says it has something to do with "optimizing" logins to devices by doing something with software packages, so it perhaps makes sense that this had an effect.

>>106442722
There's no right answer, but I'd consider saving up for a 4K monitor.
You can 4K game with a 5070 Ti if you're willing to adjust some settings & use DLSS on supported titles.

>>106442682
The quick release damage matters if you pull you GPU often, such as with hardware reviewers. It mostly doesn't matter for the average consumer.
Do you want a micro board or not? The Mortar is a sawn-off Tomahawk essentially so you can go for it if you don't want a full ATX. The Tomahawk/Mortar series is their "high-quality" line so you can be sure the VRMs, preincluded SSD heatsinks and overall quality are all good.

Can't choose between 5070Ti and 5060Ti
I mostly game on my PC, but sometimes I record and edit videos and images there, and I was also thinking about toying with some coom AI stuff.

I game only in 1080p and don't plan to upgrade to 1440p any time soon. Which card would be best for my usecase?

>>106442762
The class 60 then. It will generate AI images slower but perhaps that doesn't matter to you, and with 16GB it is not lacking compared to the 70 Ti.

But when you do eventually upgrade to 1440 or 4K you'll regret it.

>>106442722
2 out of 7 Newegg reviewers had a bad experience with that ASRock PSU.
Pure Power 13M is a good alternative.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dbRnTW/be-quiet-pure-power-13-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bp027us
https://hwbusters.com/psus/be-quiet-pure-power-13-m-850w-atx-v3-1-psu-review/

>>106442692
>Avoid MSI Ventus cards if you can; they're deliberately making them run loud to upsell people to their better cards.
thats retarded, clearly they're running their fans 'fast' to get better cooling scores so they look better on paper. Please keep your criticisms within the realms of actual criticism, and not retard-tier schizophrenia.

>>106442854
>clearly they're running their fans 'fast' to get better cooling scores
Except the Ventus has the 2nd highest GPU temperature recorded in that TechPowerUp chart, the warmer Zotac 5070 Ti is generating 10 dBA less noise.
It is also tied for worst memory chip cooling with the ASUS TUF running on quiet BIOS mode.

Funny how a manufacturer that clearly knows how to design better video card coolers suddenly doesn't bother for their cheapest models.

guys is it worth waiting to black friday
what deals are likely

>>106442993
in usa? Maybe
depends on what you're buying
in eu its usually garbage

>>106442891
so you're proving my point for me now, thanks anon.
>they cut corners on the design and overcompensated with high fan-ramp speeds to maintain temps barely
like i said, this is a case of; at worst, judaism and incompetence, not direct malicious intent, you're being schizophrenic and paranoid for no reason.
I can't imagine a more retarded business decision than deliberately making a shit product, in the hope that the buyer, who has many alternative choices, will simply purchase the premium version of THEIR shitty product, instead of another manufacturer entirely.

I had a shitty experience with Acer monitors when i bought a budget one of theirs, their warranty dept was scam-tier at best. When i got my money back from the pc store, i didn't go and buy a better Acer monitor, i bought an AOC one instead, and have been shitting on Acer and promoting the AOC brand (which i've been very happy with 2x of their monitors since that day, alongside the happy feedback of the guy i sold my first one to) ever since. Capische?

>>106442993
Don't pass on currently available discounts if they're at or near all-time low prices.

>what deals are likely
Monitors probably.

>>106443050
>get better cooling scores so they look better on paper.
The Ventus look shit on paper either way, the cards with the worst GPU or memory temps are running on the quiet BIOS.
If they want the Ventus to look better on paper, they would use a better cooler. Period.
MSI's just treating reference-tier cards as a pass/fail course and putting minimum effort into it.

>>106443050
Your example is totally irrelevant, considering MSI has made one of the best 5070 Ti coolers in the Vanguard (completely sold out), and the Gaming Trio has a very nice cooler as well.
No one gives a shit about Acer or AOC monitors when they're shopping for the best displays.

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>>106443119
>MSI has a great cooler if you pay more
not an argument. My analogy was literally 1 for 1, the only difference being the product itself. Accept that you have a mental illness (not surprising, you being a Njudean fanboy and complaining about cooling problems on a gpu model you don't even own) and work on yourself anon, for the betterment of your own life, and this general.

>>106443151
>Intentional product feature segmenting is not an argument
I accept your concession.

>>106443101
Right? The ventus has no redeeming qualities at all. It looks ugly, it cools poorly and runs loudly. A Zotac at the same cost blows it out of the water in every category.
I don't get how someone can look at the ventus and just assume incompetence when it's designed so poorly that it starts looking intentionally made that way.

>>106443151
>complaining about cooling problems on a gpu model you don't even own
This general is about helping people avoid buying inferior products like the Ventus.
Funny how you're using this opportunity to bitch about NVIDIA.

>upgrade to 4K monitor
>realise I have to get a new GPU as well
>find out even the 5090 doesn't do 4K@120 without gayscaling in most titles
What the fuck was the point?

>>106443226
enable dlss transformer model and have fun

>>106443226
enable 10x frame gen

>>106442755
>The quick release damage matters if you pull you GPU
It also matters if you have to RMA a GPU
I have zero faith any company would see that damage as anything but an excuse to deny a claim

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>>106443226
No one advertised high native FPS @ 4K.
Well, AMD lied about it.

>3700x
>5700xt
>32 gb corsair ddr4 shit
Looking to upgrade from this. I don't need top end stuff at all and preferably would rather stick with amd. I'm assuming any meaningful upgrade would mean upgrading to ddr5 which includes a new motherboard since I don't the shit I have supports it. Anyways which gen ryzen is considered a good deal. I only play games in 1080p@144hz, don't need a super computer. Is the ryzen 7000 series bad? I see a 7700x for $220

>>106443361
7700x is very inefficient
if you go am5 you want either 9800x3d or 9600x

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>>106443267
4k tvs are 120hz and 7900xtx hits 120fps exactly

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>>106443226
here's your prize

>>106443378
4K 32" monitors available in 2025 run at 165~240Hz.
Nice TV cope.

>>106443403
afmf2 easily doubles the framerate

>>106443405
That's not native performance, you fucking retard.
MFG can easily cap a 240Hz 4K monitor. See what I did?

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Not to mention Doom Eternal, a title specifically optimized for smooth 60 FPS PS4 gameplay, is massively carrying that average.
PT disabled Doom: Dark Ages btw.
A 7900 XTX can pump 240 FPS for PS4 ports, big fucking deal.

>>106443375
woah why is a 9700x $290 but a 9800x3d $460. is the difference really that massive?
>t. clearly out of the loop and havent checked pc news in years

>>106443451
Much higher demand and willingness to pay for the 9800X3D.
AMD launched the 9800X3D earlier than they've planned because Zen 5% wasn't well-received, except for those who needed the better AVX-512 performance.

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>>106443451
best in slot cpu

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now it's been confirmed that FSR3 was being artificially held back by management at AMD to make their upcoming AI-based upscaler look better
(and also, presumably, to make it more viable on their budget cards)

sorry RDNA3 buyers, you really did get shafted by AMD

>>106442355
>1070 Ti minimum requirements
>a high-end GPU is the minimum requirements
What happened to gaming being accessible for everyone?
>inb4 it's a 9 years old GPU
It's basically equivalent in performance to the 3060, which is the most popular GPU worldwide according to Steam Hardware Survey. That ubiquitous GPU can only do 1080p30@low in the French RPG. What the fuck?
Back in the day when the 750Ti was the most popular GPU it could run everything at 1080p60. Same with the 1050Ti, the 1060 6GB, the 1650 Super, etc.

>>106443466
>>106443481
ty, sounds like I'll be fine with the 9600x then. Will the 2 less cores compared to my 3700x be noticeable (and if so in what tasks)

>>106443494
>What happened to gaming being accessible for everyone?
upscaling and framegen happened. Optimization costs money.

>>106443482
There's no conspiracy, AMD Radeon pushes features that console manufacturers & game developers can utilize.
FSR1 was designed to be compatible with the PS4 generation of consoles and the Switch.
Not a surprise AMD wasn't willing to spend their budget improving FSR3 because console hardware can't run it efficiently, and Mark Cerny didn't want RDNA3 for the PS5 Pro.

>>106443530
you can check out 7800x3d if you have any available at good prices

>>106443494
You've just contradicted yourself like twice in the same post. Yes, the "most popular GPU" were never able to run "everything 1080p60" if latest titles are included into said everything.

>>106443411
You used your GPU the way the manufacturers advertized?

I STILL CAN'T DECIDE ON AM5 MOBO!

>>106443534
>upscaling and framegen happened
At 1440p upscaling starts being viable, because it runs AND looks better than native 1080p.

>>106443564
ASUS TUF B850 PLUS

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>>106443538
>AMD Radeon pushes features that console manufacturers & game developers can utilize
AMD radeon pushes features that make people likely to upgrade to the next generation of AMD radeon
why would someone with a 7900 XT or XTX upgrade to a 9070 XT if FSR4 didn't require those fancy new AI cores?
you know they're gonna pull the same move with UDNA

>>106443588
>you know they're gonna pull the same move with UDNA
They won't. The architecture for RDNA2 and 3 was designed at a time when DLSS2 wasn't even publicly available.
AMD probably didn't expect the quality of DLSS to improve so quickly.

>>106443588
these retards still think RDNA3 is getting FSR4 and even cope by using optiscaler to say it actually has it already lol

they're the same copers who think AMD leaked FSR4 on purpose by accident

All that talk about optiscalers and FG, how is Intel doing in that? I heard they have been recently added to Cyberpunk. Any other upcoming or released titles promised to support it yet?

I also heard that Intel released their optiscaler for any other GPU, if developers would support it.

>>106443651
XeSS 1 was miles better than FSR3, you have a few Radeon RX 7000 card owners here coping that their card is fine with Intel's XeSS2 compatibility.
So they're doing okay on that front.
They have a good upscaler and their own frame generation & anti-lag/reflex features.
It's a matter of getting game developer support or modding compatibility through Optiscaler.

>>106443694
RTX 5070ti owner is that you post your GPU-Z with today's date in taskbar

>>106443575
costs more than 9600x
I ain't buying it

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>try out water cooling loop before putting it together properly
>pc boots, slowly but surely, display turns off after a while
>indicates poor contact between the gpu and the waterblock

Surely there has to be a better way of checking if it's making good contact than to drain, repad, repaste, and then fill the loop and try again.

BTW the cheap chinese pads that came with the block are shit, shit!

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>>106443714
Cope on.

>>106443733
Still waiting for GPU-Z with today's date in taskbar

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>>106443743
You're still coping.

>>106443726
My bad, but you should've said you're poor upfront.

>>106443749
Okay so you're the 5070ti owner or 4070 super retard since you're so scared and hiding your GPU-Z

>>106443756
You say it's an exception. Check your privilege. m8.

>>106443760
Nvidia pays people to shill here.

>>106440331
How did your tuf gaming died?
Did you already installed tomahawk or just waiting for arrival?
There are issues on reddit with ethernet controller.

>>106443760
it's DLSS schizo, he probably still has a 5600X/4070

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>Me when I realize my 7900xtx 24gb is already obsolete and a 1080p gpu at best
wtf why did this happpen to me you all told me this thing would last forever. You guys told me vram is all that matters and upscaling and rt were hairworks and physx tier technologies...

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>>106443760
>4070 super retard
NTA and no horse in this race but my eyes finally aren't bleeding anymore after upgrading GPU to 4070 Ti Super.

So what do I play? I've only been playing Slay the Spire and Tower Dominion, as per usual.

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>>106443760
And the cope continues.

>>106443767
Radeon RX 7000 card owners are shilling XeSS2 like the cuck they are.

https://youtu.be/WrpKy91U5TA?si=kQnQV0d-eRyvW-TT

Talk me out of buying this stuff to clean my desk and keyboard

I’m tired of dust

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>>106442762
>>106442773

>>106443732
uhhh
what is going on here

>>106443802
mix a microfibre cloth with water and try swiping that over your dusty surfaces

>>106443786
7900xtx cope here was massive before the 5090 launched
all been quiet ever since beyond the odd coper

>>106443732
What waterblock is that ?
The tubing config looks wrong for most waterblocks

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>>106443833

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>>106443851
The tubing is fine, it's a bykski double sided block for a 3090.

I always say you should water cool extremely watt hungry gpus but now that guy posted that nonsense I guess its just a bad idea overall unless you get an aio solution

>>106443864
> 3090
you mean you bought a 3090 in 2025 and decided to also buy a water cooling loop for it in 2025

>>106443864
The back waterblock seems more like a hot box unless you have your pump turned up enough

>>106443877
The block was on sale for 80 bucks and the card was 500. Figured I'd try on something that isn't 1400 dollars and I was right, this shit is hard.

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>>106443789
>So what do I play?
Whatever makes you happy.

>>106443896
did you manage the air bubbles correctly so they dont block waterflow

>>106443896
Did you read the instructions right?
On cheaper blocks every single washer and screw has a place and it has to be installed.

>>106443772
>How did your tuf gaming died?
To clarify: I was debating between the ASUS and MSI boards after my ASRock X670E PG Lightning stopped booting. I thought it might be related to the current issues with ASRock boards burning out CPU memory controllers since the CPU and DRAM error LEDs were on. But the CPU thankfully worked in another computer.
The MSI board is nice. I can overclock/undervolt further and it's been completely stable.

>>106443864
>>106443896
You picked the most overcomplicated waterblock to try out "for the first time"

>upscale a 1080p30 fps video to 4k60fps with a 5090
>expect it to be fast as fuck boi
>it still takes FIVE fucking hours with topaz
what was the fucking point

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Give me some demanding games to try out (through piracy) on my new PC. So far I've tried Oblivion Remastered and MGS:Delta and both ran well at 1440p with DLSS Quality and mixed High/Ultra settings.
Bonus points if it's a good jumping-in point for a game series (like Oblivion and MGSDelta are) and not a sequel like DOOM Dark Ages, Alan Wake 2, etc.

>>106443946
just because topaz has slow models doesnt mean upscaling is inherently slow
nvidia can do it in real time after all

Is the 9800X3D worth it or do I wait for Zen 6? I'm currently still on AM4 (5700X3D) and chasing high framerates (300+) at 1080p in older games.

>>106443947
Doom Dark Ages is a prequel to the rebooted Doom & Eternal.

>>106443939
>Did you read the instructions right?

It's a chinese block, there are no instructions.

>>106443959
buy a 50xx gpu and frame gen to high fps

>>106443959
Just keep waiting™, especially if you like to tune the memory.

>>106443964
Kek

>>106443964
Check some forums for accurate thermal pad measurements. GL HF.

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>>106443962
That's kinda cool, I only played the 2016 DOOM for a few hours to benchmark my 2018ish RX570 build. Maybe I should finally play through 2016 and Eternal, now that I can (probably) run them at 1440p Ultra 180FPS.

>>106443772
>There are issues on reddit with ethernet controller.
I forgot to add that the 2.5Gbe Realtek NIC is the same one in the ASRock board I had. The issue with that card is that it *looks* like it has issues starting from a low power state. So ping tests will start by failing a couple times and then succeeding. Realtek even has special drivers that automatically disable the low power and sleep states for the NIC. But that's not the problem. It just can't communicate reliably with some routers. My old Netgear router was incompatible with it. So I solved the problem by upgrading to a Synology router I was already thinking of buying.

>>106443967
I refuse to buy nvidia GPUs because of the connector (call it autism or paranoia, I don't care). I currently have a 7900XTX and I'll probably upgrade to the top RDNA5 card when it comes out.
>fake frames
Nigger
>>106443970
What's the deal with memory? I thought it only mattered in synthetic benchmarks.

>>106443947
the first descendant
hl2 rtx
wuthering waves (with rtx enabled)
expedition 33

>>106443994
I live in a country with consumer protection laws and insurance so I never understood what people found notable about the burning connectors.

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>>106443200
explain where i said not to buy any gpu or their partner models, i didn't even disagree with your claims of inferior cooling. I'm just objectively correct and you're seething, Njudean shill.

>>106443994
>I currently have a 7900XTX and I'll probably upgrade to the top RDNA5 card when it comes out.
I bet you it uses the connector...

>>106443959
lol
nobody on a X3D will be upgrading it for 10 years

>>106443959
>>106443994
Well you're the stupid one for chasing high FPS with CPU instead of GPU. Your CPU is adequate. Get a better GPU and currently, that's NVIDIA. Suck it up.

>>106443864
>bykski double sided block for a 3090.
I just saw some reddit posts on this block and it sounds like a nightmare block lol. zero instructions, screws you don't need, pads total shit, the backplate is super thick and won't clear a lot of components lol

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>>106443767
im pretty sure these shitskins do it for free frankly. The internet is filled with mentally ill manchildren shilling their favourite megacorp shamelessly. Theres still fat losers on X participating in console wars, in 2025. Its beyond pathetic, but here we are.

>>106443959
>9800X3D
9800X3D can't save a shitty GPU

>>106444055
>you baked first so I'll just rape your thread lol will be deleting this post don't bother reporting
You sound like a well-adjusted individual yourself. Don't bother denying it, nobody else pushing this judea shit here.

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>>106444013
>objectively correct
Wrong on all counts.

>making a shit product, in the hope that the buyer, who has many alternative choices,
There aren't "many alternative choices" (ESL fuckwad) over the 5070 Ti Gaming Trio currently in the US, partly because the $790~830 MSI Shadow/Ventus/Inspire all have worse coolers.
The Windforce SFF has an inferior cooler, its $750 pricing is locked to Prime members (sold out everywhere else), and the thermal gel formulation is optimized for cost-cutting, not for performance improvement, as analyzed by Igor.
The Gaming Trio is also objectively better than other brand of 5070 Ti near its price range.

There are no "many alternative choices".
Follow your own advice: work on yourself for the betterment of your own life, and this general.

>>106444017
Yeah they will. The only people who are waiting are ones with a 5800x3d for am6 to come out. Otherwise it's a paypig market segment

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>>106443564
>I STILL CAN'T DECIDE ON AM5 MOBO!

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>>106443732
>going to the masochistic absurdity of watercooling your gpu for extra performance
>connects your gpu to a riser cable for aesthetics

>>106444008
Unless you live in the US specifically (I don't), it's not Nvidia themselves who will handle your warranty claim, and retailers and suppliers will find a billion excuses to say "you didn't plug it all the way in" or something. I'm sure you could eventually win through legal means but that's not ideal.
>>106444016
It's the Red Devil, it uses 3 x 8 pin.
>>106444017
I'm sure that's the case for people gaming at 4K, but I'm not one of them.
>>106444050
>you're stupid for having principles
I guess that's technically correct

>>106443959
jesus christ this is a stupid question. No. Wait for AM6, play newer games, and stop gaming at 1080poverty because of your autism.

>>106444100
>you're stupid for having principles
No, you're stupid for letting those principles obscure reality.
>Well my principles forbid me from buying currently superior GPU which is objectively what I need for higher FPS in old & competetive games, so I will instead upgrade one thing in my PC that needs no upgrading for that purpose - CPU
I guess buy 9950X3D and ASROCK motherboard, make sure not to update the bios.

Good news, the 3090 still works with it's air cooler.

Should I get a 265K build?

how much saving is there vs a 9800X3D build

>>106444155
Not enough if you're going to game on it, Core Ultra is terrible at it.

>>106444155
Intel is a zombie company don't support them it's satanic

>>106444121
>buy 9950X3D and ASROCK motherboard
insane thing to do they just released another "okay this time we won't blow up the X3D for real this time super swear super edition" bios 2 days ago. Maybe this time it'll work

>>106444153
its loud and hot asf. uses like 400w just to perform worse than a 6900xt.

>>106444175
That anon is clearly already insane since he wants to upgrade CPU for more FPS, from 5700X3D

>>106444155
intel can drop their undesirable cpu prices to be competitive but youd lose out on gaming perf and youd have to deal with estrogen cores

>>106444155
For productivity intel is still the most cost effective.

>>106444171
cool it with the anti-semitic remarks

>>106444171
>>106444181
>>106444194
My next PC will be Intel and NVIDIA, thanks for helping me make this choice!

>>106444155
If you're going Intel for budget gaming, get a 14600K DDR4 system instead (if you're willing to learn how to manually tune the memory).

>>106444207
they keep saying they explode

>>106444100
>It's the Red Devil, it uses 3 x 8 pin.
The anon is saying the high-end RDNA5 cards will probably use the 12V-2x6 power connector.

>>106443544
Alright thanks, this is where i'm at so far.
>7800x3d ($340)
>coolermaster hyper 212 cpu cooler ($25)
>gigabyte b850 x wifi6e am5 atx ($180)
>gskill 2x16 ddr5 6400 ($105)

last is just gpu and psu since I have a case and will continue using the same ssd's i have.

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>>106444213
No they don't. That's undervolted with $40 air cooler. The stock was 77°C

>>106444219
>>gskill 2x16 ddr5 6400 ($105)
For AMD you'd be better with 6000 CL30.

>>106444218
Oh. Well in that case I'll eat shit, I guess. But surely with the new node there will be efficiency gains and 600W won't be needed, right? AMD just have to not be jews who force the new shit standard like Nvidia.

>>106444207
>14600K DDR4 system instead (if you're willing to learn how to manually tune the memory).
How much does memory matter or ddr5? Am I losing out on much by using 5400mhz (it was $20 for the two sticks)

>>106444236
actually? why is that the case

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waiting for the 5070ti super

>>106442650
Ho hol

>>106444213
a 14600k won't explode, only the 13th and 14th gen i7s and i9s draw enough power to do that

>>106444213
They are stupid.
CPUs with oxidation issues are out of circulation at this point (OEMs are still ordering plenty of Raptor Lake CPUs).
You can check the batch code to confirm you've avoided chips manufactured in 1H '23 or earlier.
Chips boosting close to 6.0GHz at stock turbo settings (when they should be thermally limited) were causing most of the CPU degradation & instability.
That's what i9 CPUs were mostly affected by it.

>>106444253
Has to do with "sweet spots" for IMC. Intel might benefit from 6400, for AMD - 6000 is golden.

>>106444255
Didn't 4070 Ti Super come out last in its gen?