>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>>106464240
Gonna repurpose my old AM4 build into an matx format and put it in the living room hooked up to the TV. Could be fun for playing media and firing up coop games. Just need a mobo and case. Already ordered a B550M with wifi and bluetooth, and am thinking of doing the Lian Li A3 for case.

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My 5070 come with this anti sag dildo. Look ugly and out of place but they include it means I should use it? How big is the problem with gpu sag anyway I never had problem but then I only used dual fans gpu before. Reddit is adamant about using it or else I'll break the pcie port and burn my house down but then they told me I'd die if I didn't take the vaxx.

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It is so over for poorfags

>>106464442
Moving the pc with a card in can fuck up the slot, just sitting there it's unlikely.

>>106464484
Even Ultra is borderline poorfag config.

>>106464488
I thought it's common knowledge you should remove gpu and tower cooler when moving the pc? Guess Im alright then.

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>>106464484
>Reflex 2

>>106464484
>Mid range cards are enough for 4k 60fps + ray tracing
>b580 (roughly half a 5070 and 9070) presumably good for the same thing with framegen
>Otherwise no mention of up scaling to hit targets
Looks like poorfags be eating good. Even on the low end it looks like a 2060 super would be good for 1080p60fps.
Also looks like this is the first release with reflex 2 right?
>>106464518
>I thought it's common knowledge you should remove gpu and tower cooler when moving the pc?
You'd be surprised
If the card is uniformly sagging down that's usually totally cool if it's not too extreme, seeing a difference in the height between the front and back is whats sketchy.

>>106464415
height clearance should be fine, my current cooler is 0.5mm smaller than my picked one and I still got like 5-6 mm extra clearance

>>106464241
>24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti
this is so dumb

>>106464610
I'm curious whether the base 6070 & 6070 Ti will have these memory capacities.

>>106464442
Are you not capable of using a level to determine if it makes a difference or not?

>>106464633
Right now no but I don't doubt that it'll eventually happen over time. The question is would that be a huge issue? Never heard anyone breaking their gpu or motherboard irl due to sag.

Thoughts on ASUS Pro CSM business motherboards?

>>106464484
having a 16 core x3d cpu in there seems super random, like what is the 2nd ccd with no x3d meant to accomplish, and 14900k because...?
how multithreaded is the game? Is the game mining bitcoin in the background

>>106464683
I feel like you can just use your eyes to see if there is a difference as well, I hope those are available. Yes, that can cause issues down the road if it sags enough. I don't think pcbs/pcie slots were designed to support some of the coolers that are coming on these gpus.

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Would it be dumb to buy a 5080 right now? I'd be coming from a 3070

>>106464484
thats entirly reasonable THO. not that i believe it will run well at recommended but if it did that would be fine.

>>106464484
>It is so over for poorfags
it's been over for a while man but I still see 9800X3D/4060 builds out there, shit is crazy

>>106464768
its poor value compared to 5070 ti
then the 24gb super versions are out soon

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If someone in /pcbg/ built this exact machine they'd rightfully be called retarded

yet here we are

14900K and a B580 for 4K60 (+RT ++FG)

>>106464746
Lol at that snarky comment. I meant I can see its not sagging at all. Have you or know anyone who ever gotten problem with it beside the aesthetic?

decided to return the NZXT H5 Flow case, lots of marketing on that one and I fell for it but at the end of the day its a case with no removable mesh filters, thank god for the free return period

>>106464846
That makes a bit more sense, the 5070 cooler might just be small enough for it to not matter. I don't know anyone with one of the larger coolers who didn't just setup a support, but I can imagine the pcb being anything other than flat will lead to issues with enough heat cycles.

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Computer randomly died Friday. Psu seems to work so I got a new motherboard but when I got it all put in when I press power button lights and fans just come up for a moment before it goes back down. Never seen this before, any ideas?

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I'm using an old VG248 from 2013. Would a modern IPS have a better response time ? or is the chad TN panel THAT good ?

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Fan Control is the greatest piece of software ever released.

>>106464933
is your mobo asrock and the cpu 9800x3d
if yes try rma the broken cpu

>>106464971
New mobo is Asus but its 13700kf

>>106464933
>lights and fans just come up for a moment before it goes back down
cpu most likely

>>106464988
then try rma the cpu
it prob degraded

>>106458943
>LG C4, like all oleds I know, flicker at low rgb values in the refresh rate interval. So LG C4 flickers at 144 Hz if you display rgb 31 or something along those lines. Reviewers overlook this because they are fucking retarded
Anonsan explain what you mean by this exactly, I game my reply last thread

>>106464939
too lazy to check values but you had ips' that were challanging more modern TNs for a while now so probably faster pixels and before accounting the hz too
so most likely yes but dependent on panel
ultra high end ipses were kinda currently killed or died off due to absurd pricing in certain regions so I wouldn't even buy them since oleds ate their lunch
but now I can't cope with oleds so idk anymore, maybe woled
but it would be an upgrade all around pixles, hz, color, viewingangles I guess

>>106464518
just fucking put a brace you nonce
if you dont like that one then use a different one, fucking cut a pencil to size or a piece of construction cardboard tubing, or a stack of legos, or a fucking brace from amazon
It literally can only benefit you, there is absolutely no downside whatsoever

>>106464992
>>106464997
Seems like one of the 4 ram sticks also is bad. I have no idea how while I was asleep mobo and a stick of ram died like this, theyre only 2.5 years old

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>>106464484
>ULTRA
>4k 60 fps
>ULTRA (W/ frame generation)

>>106465087
does the pc start when using 2 sticks only

>>106465099
Starts when 1, 2, or 3 sticks are in

>>106464779
anon im gonna pirate and play that game on my 5600x 3060TI and there is nothing nobody can do to stop me

>>106465128
do the error leds light up for cpu problem

>>106465156
Im not sure i didn't see, are you thinking the CPU is actually broken and only able to handle 4 RAM sticks and not that any one of them is actually bad?

>>106465189
Just check the mobo when you start the pc. unless it mega cheap one it should have error leds

if it was the 1 broken ram stick then the pc should work normally when you have 2 in
13000 line cpus had degradation issues so its possible its fucked, assuming you used it for years.
Its possible the cpu is fine and its other parts/unplugged cables/poorly seated parts ofc.

>>106465220
I will try different configurations of the ram. Like I said it starts with 1, 2 and 3 sticks of ram in but I didnt try various combinations to see if it's always the same stick of ram that makes it stop. I dont really want to buy a new cpu and I dont exactly need 64 go of ram but not sure how I would be able to tell how stable it is. If I do have to get a new cpu as well then it would probably be better to return the mobo and get a lga 1851 cpu/mobo i assume

>>106464484
>9800X3D
>5090
I'm good

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>>106465267
>>106465220
It does seem like the stick, if i take out one of the good 3 and replace it with this bad stick it still doesnt turn on. With the bad stick in i didnt notice that any of these lights even flashed on. With that one stick out the CPU flashed red momentarily and the DRAM light was orange for some of the startup and when on no lights are on, which seems like normal behavior to me

how comes everybody on this board has a 5090
literally everybody

Poorfag with a 4080 here. Where do I pirate game safely?

>>106465490
This is a white mans board, and all white men use a 5090. Straight white men will then pair that with a raptor lake i7/i9 or a 265k/285k, gays will use an x3d.
>>106465491
old.reddit.com/r/freemediaheckyeah.

>>106465473
my pc always blinks the cpu led for a few sec, I assume its related to 1 x4 cpu power cable not being plugged in

reddit posts mention mobo battery change issue
psu power cable issue
clear cmos
thermal paste on cpu pins issue

so go figure

>>106465491
i torrent all my games (well most)
have access to a public torrent page like 1337.to for example and then maybe work on getting an invite to a private torrent tracker
some torrent clients also have a built in search function like qbittorrent
Depending on your country you might want to use a vpn

PISS OUT MY ASS

>>106465490
>4090 was the only perf upgrade u can buy last time
>5090 is the only perf upgrade u can buy now
tech stalled and u dont get perf upgrades except paying, everyone pooled up to the max tier because there is no where else to go
along with buying into the most price effective card, because it either holds or gains value over time, like buying into real estate market, it costs a bit to get in, but then you are in
this is jensen end goal everyone on a 90 series
he cornered the market

>>106465510
I'm a honorary nigger (balkanigger)

is it worth buying a 9600x over a 7600 if the price difference is just 10%?

>>106465773
has the 14600k sale ogne out

homo thugs ridin' with amd

How do I know if the am5 platform is training RAM or something is wrong? I heard that it could take up to 45 minutes?

>>106465773
Yes

>>106465915
do I even want to upgrade to am5 or just wait for am6 with ddr6 ram
seems troublesome if am5 pc is black screening for an hour and they think it could be normal

>Ips sucks
>VA sucks
>Oled sucks
i cannot buy a new monitor

>>106465915
Mine took like ~2 mins to train RAM for the first couple startups. I flipped the RAM training memory on in BIOS and set it to retrain every 30 days. Now my avg BIOS is 20 seconds. But still longer than my old AM4 build

>>106466045
Which setting is that called?

>>106465973
>upgrade to am5
From what?
Did you get a 5700x3d back when it was $150 ?

Why are there no 55+ inch IPS tv's anymore? I don't want fucking flickering burning out OLED. I don't want smearing haloing VA/miniled. I just want a normal fucking tv that lasts forever like they used to.

>>106466082
I think it depends on your mobo, but on my MSI it's called Memory Context Restore. It will remember the trained timings and just stick with that each startup. You can also select the time interval for it to recheck and rerun the analysis. Should be under OC/DRAM settings

How do I get the Chinese to make me a custom screen. I don't understand why there aren't portrait targeted monitors yet that are "wider" when in portrait/vertical orientation. Is such a thing even possible? What resolution would it be at?

>>106466097
>IPS
>last forever
Nice joke. My last IPS TV got stuck pixels and dead backlight after 3 years.

>>106466089
nah I got 5600x and every chart showed the difference in games to be fucking nothing so I didnt buy it

>>106464633
zoomers and most millennials dont own any tools.

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>2025
>4k monitor selection is still abysmal
What are some new 32 inch IPS 120Hz+ NON CURVED options out there?

>>106466411
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&D=120000,600000&P=2,11,13&C=0&sort=price&page=1

>>106466472
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#F=800100000,812800000&r=384002160&D=144000,600000&P=2,11,13&C=0
41 monitor in total

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Is there a large leeway for error when building a PC? Don't wanna break an expensive piece.

>>106466506
it's 44 if you include 120hz monitors as originally specified.

>>106466558
Only part you can really fuck up and proven your fault is the motherboard/cpu pins. The rest you either can correct easily or RMA. Take that information as you will.

>>106466043
If you are not forced what's the point
depends on what you want though
idk if all the downsides are that bad

>>106466097
I know there a tv IPS panel that is on 75"

>>106466158
>Nice joke. My last IPS TV got stuck pixels and dead backlight after 3 years.
"lcd lasts forever" meme ringing true

>>106466411
32" so much more expensive than 27" slop
might fuck around and buy the el cheapo Gigabyte ones

>>106466558
as long as you don't bend motherboard pins, crack your ram, crack gpu pcie slot

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>>106466573
sorry, 43 total options.

>>106466618
there are some duplicates listed4xrrw

>>106466558
its always a risk
making a small judgement error, being a bit too impatient, dropping shit, scraping things with a screwdriver can destroy hundreds of dollars in a second

you can minimize the risks by watching a video of someone building a pc. Understanding the basics, taking the time to read the mobo/case manuals for instructions. Having good environment to build with soft surfaces, good light, right tools.

The parts most likely to be fucked are am4 cpu pins, or you smear thermal paste on active areas. The mobo as it has large attack area and individual components. Gpu, ram and ssd can be fucked if you insert them incorrectly using force. Dont use 3rd party psu cables. The cpu cooler is heavy and maybe you let the case drop and it rips the mobo apart.

What's the real downside of minileds compared to IPS beside the price?

>>106466690
often its problematic firmware, the minileds dont work flawlessly or are annoying to fiddle with, and usually you paid minileds with VA tech for less bloom thanks to better native contrast.
IPS sucks image quality wise so on tha front theres no downside to not using va minileds, va obviously has slower pixel response times so theres more smearing but its tolerable. You would not buy VA miniled for competitive fps games.

You must be a special kind of retard if you could break the RAM or GPU by forcing them in. I was 11 didn't know shit about computer, didn't know video tutorial existed and could open the PC and insert my new RAM stick. It can literally go in one way.

>>106466605
>>106466615
>>106466646
So mainly I need to be careful to slot things correctly and in the right place, thanks for the warnings and advice bwos!

>>106466758
You'll be fine. Just dont jam things in, be slow with any screwdriver work, and be gentle with the fan headers.

what other case besides fractal north have mesh side intake with fan intakes for gpu cooling

>>106466170
what do you need AM5 for? Why not just upgrade your GPU

>>106466690
Everything has a glow around it, you won't notice it until you are told about it though. My friends tv has it and I didn't notice until I learned about it here but now I can't not see it.

>>106466864
IPS has glow too but never bothered me. Is it worse with minileds?

>>106466896
I watch stuff more than game now and it's beginning to grate on me

>>106466902
I have an OLED TV for that. I wear glasses though so even that has a glow lmao.

>>106466896
on ips the glow shows as elevated black levels everywhere
on miniled you can have hdr and have absolute black square next 1k + nit area which will bloom next to the dim square.

>>106466896
It's different, IPS just has static glowing that makes blacks a bit greyer. minileds make things "halo" which gives objects a glowing ring around them. It's much more noticeable and annoying to look at.

Built a new PC but now it sits in the corner and I am still on my shitbox. Why did I even bother...

>>106467016
sounds tough.

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Yes Im vaccinated and boostered. How could you tell?

>>106467016
Let me guess you got the Modernia shot didn't you? Well there's no helping you at this point, might as well send your computer to me since you aren't going to use it.

hi anons, can I get a glance over for my build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KTdvJn
I boughteded the msi 5070ti trio already since that shit keeps going in and out of stock and other anons said GPU never go on sale for black friday (if at all) and maybe theres also another drought coming later this year
just want to know if all the components are ok plus thoughts on the monitor if you own it
its for gaming and video editing and I want it to last 8 years minimum without changing much
before you say it, the 5090 goes for 3500 usd in my country and the 5080 goes for 1500 usd. The 5070ti was barely above 900 so thats why I pulled the trigger on it

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>>106467031
What delightfully retarded slop.

>>106467068
thats no aislop, thats 1000 years in photoshop

>>106467065
whats up with the random 1 and 2 tb nvmes. just use 4tb's for video

What application actually uses that much ram? Local llms?
You probably want an oled monitor so you dont have to game on an ips. Might help with vid editing since how else do you see accurate black levels or hdr.

>>106467108
>>106467065
the 2tb is gen5 for os and main programs, just cause I can
the 1tb is for cache only
for ram its recommended in the OP, I also know 64gb is enough, but 96gb is cause I can, if its detrimental ill just go 64gb. the 96gb kit is 6000mhz cl30 so its both fast for gaming and high capacity for productivity applications
Man, is oled really that good? the fucking burn in keeps looking like a problem and im one of those sickos that leaves a screen on one thing for longer than 15mins. the real main issue i have with oled is text fringing compared to ips, unironically the fringing on oled gives me a headache for how wrong it looks in my eyes

>>106467065
>>106467257
>9950x3d
>120mm air cooler
I would divert funds from the random m.2 drives you threw in into an aio.

>>106467257
Id get 64gb ram, it feels a bit silly to spend more while compromising on the gpu that actually gets used.
until lg releases an rgb strip panel the oleds will have unusual sub pixel structure, guess you could do something like have an 55" oled tv and its so far away that you dont notice the fringing. Or look out for a 27" 4k oled with extremely high ppi.

>>106467065
>9950X3D
>5070TI
I've seen these pairings many times
I don't get it and never will

>>106467350
>guess you could do something like have an 55" oled tv and its so far away that you dont notice the fringing
How far away would you have to sit to do that? Would 6 feet be enough?

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6% of gamers have 16 GB VRAM GPUs. 6%.

>>106467374
go to a store with tvs and check them out urself to see if they look fine at a certain distance

Fellas where do you buy shit in europe? Amazon prices are outrageous.

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>>106467398
according to this board only 6% of gamers can play the latest games at all

>>106467409
But all the stores do is play preset videos, how can I test text on them?

>>106467280
I dont wanna
fight me
[spoiler]I didnt pick the aio to be cheap, I just dont trust nor like aio, the pee ass has 120 cfm and the noctua g2 150cfm, is it really that much of a difference and is it really impossible to air cool the 9950x3d?[/spoiler]

>>106467484
According to 100% of youtubers too

>>106467428
I get paid a stipend for being the town rapist, it's hard work but an honest living. Just save up from whatever you do for a few extra months, waiting always pays off when you finally pull the trigger.

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Intel's upcoming "Nova Lake-S" introduces a completely new microarchitecture and under-the-hood enhancements. However, the appearance of the latest shipping manifests indicates that Intel is ensuring its partners receive early samples to make necessary software/firmware optimizations. And now, it appears that the 52-core top SKU will ship with speeds that may exceed 5.0 GHz. An early engineering sample confirms the appearance of test hardware in partner shipments, which means that Intel is already moving validation pieces to OEMs and cooling vendors so they can start tuning systems well ahead of qualification samples and mass production. The 52-core part is a tiled design that pairs two compute tiles with a single SoC tile. Each compute tile houses eight P-Cores based on Coyote Cove and 16 efficient E-Cores based on Arctic Wolf, while the SoC tile contributes four low-power Arctic Wolf LPE-cores. That gives Nova Lake-S a 16 P-Core, 32 E-Core, and 4 LPE-Core configuration totaling 52 cores for the top SKU, with single-tile variants offering a 28-core option.

Intel will also offer big-cache bLLC variants aimed at workloads that benefit from larger on-die caches. On the platform side, Nova Lake-S will use the LGA-1954 socket with a 45x37.5 mm footprint, which matches LGA-1851 sizing and should preserve broad cooler compatibility even if some vendors need offset plates or other tweaks for optimal contact. The P-cores will ship without SMT, following the same choice made for Arrow Lake, while Intel's cache-first bLLC approach looks intended to counter AMD's stacked 3D V-Cache strategy. For now, the 4.8 GHz reading comes from an engineering sample and Pre-QS shipments; expect clock speeds to be refined upward as QS samples roll out and Intel moves closer to a formal launch. Given Intel's ambition to re-capture a significant part of the desktop market share, we can expect to see boost clock speeds north of 5.0 GHz.

>>106467586
Explain all this gobbledygook like I am a retard. Will this help me get more fpsesses in my shooty shooty bang bangs?

What would the upgrade be like for someone on 4th gen to modern day shit?

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>NVIDIA's Discrete GPU Market Share Swells To 94%, AMD Drops To 6% In Q2 2025, 27% Increase In AIB Shipments

>>106465618
>>106467586
What does this mean for gaymen?

>>106467562
oh well its probably not a big issue on 4k 32" ppi and newest gen panels
you can use the IPS panel for text heavy work and check out the oled for media and whatever quality control for video work after you did most editing on ips

>>106467623
4th gen intel Core i-series? Like a 4770k or whatever? Basically anything from the last 5 years will be a huge upgrade.
>>106467628
And yet 4chan/reddit/techfluencers keep shilling Ra-ZION garbage to (You)

>>106467628
Nvidia announced that the 5060 is the fastest selling xx60 card ever in their earnings call

>>106465490
>how comes everybody on this board has a 5090
>literally everybody
nigvidia fags and shills

i see its that time of the day again

>>106467659
>>106467647
now memestone has to save AYMD before the 50xx super refreshes bury them

>>106467659
presumably just because there are more people who can afford to build PCs in 2025 compared to any moment in the past... like, even though GPUs were objectively cheaper 10 years ago, I definitely had access to far less money than I do now, so a 600 euro GPU today is more accessible to me than a 250 euro GPU a decade ago
I assume that holds true for everyone as they develop themselves career-wise and/or go from kid/teenager to proper working adult.

>>106467678
I haven't had a job in almost 10 years.

>>106467628
>27% Increase In AIB Shipments
That's insane. That means they shipped an even bigger shipload of nvidia cards for them to still have gained even more marketshare.

>>106467353
9950X3D is for playing two games at once + plus compiling Gentoo very fast

>>106467353
Some niggas just don't want a 5090 firestarter in their house. I get it and I always will.

>>106467568
Sorry man, you're good. I was thinking about temps when I was tinkering with shit and stress testing. It runs like a champ on my old nhd15, just keep thinking about it shooting up to 300w in some stress test and instantly to 95c. Was pretty neat.

>>106464484
intel arc bros
WE WON

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is 5090 melting thing a meme or does it actually happen
i want to get one for the vram but not if its gonna burn my house down

>>106467943
It's a meme until it happens to you.

>>106467943
>is 5090 melting thing a meme
the 600W/12V cable explodes if the copper wires aren't thick enough.
as far as I know some AIBs will draw more than that on spikes causing the burn.

>>106467964
>>106467953
is there a version that it happens the least to?

>>106464240
i used to have that case. antec p180 mini, iirc. nice example with a rare heatsink. looks passive. it was a good case for the time with plenty of useful features. used it as a truenas server for years.

>>106468022
>is there a version that it happens the least to?
get a PSU with the 600W and use the cable that comes with it or your GFX. besides you ONLY have to use the cables that come with a PSU, I can't believe I didn't know that until recently. 9070 XTs with the 600W draw less on spikes apparently. this is all what I read, and I have a 9070 XT with the 600W

>>106467676
>memestone
It's more of a PT/RT & FG catch-up feature.
Radeon only has the driver overhead advantage for older CPUs, but NVIDIA doesn't care about selling video cards to people with those CPUs.
Cards like the RTX 5050 & 5060 8GBs are mostly bought up by system integrators.

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>>106468025
whaddya think of this?

>>106468076
I dont understand passive meme when a fan that runs at low rpm is impossible to hear anyway
the lack of movement has no advantages

>>106468022
Astral with the per pin monitoring probably. I'm waiting til next release cycle just to see if that becomes standard.

>>106468093
They're useful in a workshop environment where you maybe don't want all that dust being pulled into your computer. On the consumer end? Meme

>>106468093
>passive meme when a fan that runs at low rpm is impossible to hear anyway
>the lack of movement has no advantages
I totally agree I just found that one looking at noctuas. I just got some noctua fans for the first time they're aight. are they really the best?

>>106468076
nice. i can't hear a thing. near zero dust. looks compelling.

>>106468119
Id rather rely on a filter on the intake + positive pressure

>>106468121
fans are relatively simple technology and once they reached certain quality level decade ago theres not much room to improve.
you need to get to stuff like quality of sound at specific decibel, accessories, paint finish, qc, support and brand value to decide to spend the extra for noctua

>>106468147
I got a 120 at 1700 for rear exhaust and the 2000 for the top of my 9700x since they weren't too pricy. I wonder if I should replace my thermalalright cooler with a noctua, but the 2000 took the heat off my CPU pins and I'm ridiculously impressed.

>>106468171
I wouldnt invest extra unless its part of some sort of project to make coherent visual look for the case.

all my case fans are on a hardware controller directly connected to the psu and remain off until they need to be used. cpu fan is on motherboard pwm with modified curve in BIOS. no need to use the fans unless there's a load on the system like video editor or games. my preference.

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>>106468197
lol optimal

>>106468147
Positive pressure/filters doesn't keep out everything. Some old guys just want to work and not worry about cleaning out their computer shop computer. You're also not running anything crazy on these, just spreadsheets and maybe some light cadwork.

>>106468208
I don't think a passive cooler will stop dust

>>106464240
Such gay GPU recommendations. 94% is using Nvidia. Why not 5060 Ti?

>>106468197
i took all the fans out of the components. i only have 2 large intake fans, manually controlled and completely off practically all of the time.

>>106468093
the point is that you can't improve on no moving parts. chances are if you can get away with running a fan at inaudible speed, then you can probably do away with it completely. if you actually need air on it, then you're gonna hear it.

>>106468257
you're forcing a lot more metal in the case
more failure points because every warmish part needs to be glued to a large metal block instead of just having moderate air flow over it
you limit an expensive parts watt use because you dont want a silent fan on it

the trade offs dont make sense

>>106466859
I have 5700x3d and a 9070xt, what is your answer for me then? I also want to skip AM5 entirely if possible.

>>106468244
The autistic jeet schizo who makes the threads unironically bought a 9060 XT, the 5060 TI is much better if for some reason you need 16GB, if you dont need the 16GB you are better skipping and saving for a 5070 though as they are selling them at msrp.

>>106468224
I think you're underestimating how much sawdust gets around workshops. We're not talking about a little bit of dust that exists in your home, we're talking about sawdust getting and how it gets everywhere. I'm sure there's some autistic setup where this would be unnecessary, but some guy who spends all day working on wood probably isn't too interested. Again, I'm not talking about your home (not filled with sawdust) and a passively cooled pc.

>>106468281
good thing that you can decide for yourself what makes sense for you and so can i. i have zero regrets ripping the fans out of my components.

>>106468329
it seems like if you dont care about pc performance which involves using fans to dissipate the heat you'd just be better off buying some chink mini pc

anyone have any recommendations about a caster wheel solution for large towers? my shit's just heavy enough to be annoying to move around. flux pro btw

>>106468343
perhaps
but i also need PCIe slots, don't care about size and have built PCs all my life so i just don't see myself getting a prebuilt out of principle. i like the idea of passive cooling dictating my TDP ceiling and seeing how close i can get to it.

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>>106468353

Made the mistake of buying a Razer mouse due to limited options and constrained time. It's been near a decade since my last run-in with them. Zero improvements. Same poor design. Same bad engineering. Same horrible aesthetics. Same god-awful everything. Razer is like a case of herpes embodying the 00s that keeps showing back up from time to time, and every time is as miserable as before. Generic office mice are superior to the absolute garbage they peddle.

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>>106468244
The 5060 Ti 16GB is recommended as an entry-level workstation card.

>>106468306
I don't own a 9060 XT.
The 5060 Ti 16GB is in an awkward spot, considering the performance gap to the 5070, and you're already spending over $400 for a video card.

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>>106468417
I ordered a Deathadder V3 last night, and you're saying this.

>>106468424
should have went with a basilisk v3, since the g502 form factor is what patricians use

>>106468257
based

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>>106468418
>matches 4070 and 3080 in recent titles outside of console ports and unreal engine slop games
>way more efficient than the 9060xt ( can be undervolted to 120-140W without any performance loss)
>no voltage spikes
>when OC it comes really close to both the 4070 and 3080.
>trade blows with the 9070 XT and 4070 when path tracing (yes is a meme but its there)

That card by all means is a more power efficient 4070/3080 while the 9060 XT is closer to a 3070 TI when you remove call of duty and the usual unreal engine console port slop boosting those numbers.

I'll do say its not only the 5060 ti though, all the 50x series stutters way more on those unreal engine ports, is why you see the 5070 TI being slower than 9070XT or the 5090 not being that much faster than the 4090 but when you look at other engines benchmark you'll see the difference this is for example battlefield 6, look at how much the 5090 smokes the 4090

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>>106468465
>inb4 you are making it up
this is elden ring

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>>106468282
Just play games

>>106468486
3080 was pretty good purchase in 2020

>>106468418
you should be recommending nvidia cards for gamers

>>106468519
There's a big gaming performance gap between the 5060 Ti & the 5070, you might as well just get a 5070 if you're spending over $400 on a video card at that point.
5070 provides better gaming price/performance than the 5060 Ti 16GB; you don't need 16GB for 1440p gaming.
The settings that require over 12GB at that resolution are too taxing on the 5070 GPU anyway.

>>106468534
the 5070 isn't recommended either, only a 5070 Ti

>>106464240
wait a minute.
so you're telling me.
the only reason NVidia GPUs appear to be less power hungry and more efficient than AMD is because they offload work to the CPU, resulting in their CPU driver overhead? and all the power saved at the GPU is hidden in CPU power consumption resulting in equivalent total system power draw?

>>106468541
It should be, considering it's been selling for MSRP for months

Reflex 2 will be out by 9/19/25

cases keep getting more expensive

>>106468566
If you buy an evo xl it’s the last case you will ever need to buy

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>>106468534
If i lived on a humid place with high temps like Brasil or SEA and i cant afford AC i would take the 5060 TI over the 5070 200W+ compared to the 5060 TI undervolted to as low as 75W-90W

>>106468560
source?

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>DV2
I CANT WAIT FOR THE NEXT WAVE OF OLED SLOP MONITORS TO COME OUT

>>106468418
> and you're already spending over $400 for a video card.
>9060XT 16gb $369 on newegg/bestbuy/amazon
>5060 ti 16gb $429
i would that excuse if the 5060ti was not selling at msrp but now that they do there is no reason to recommend a 9060 XT at all, if you dont want to recommend a budget option there then at least put the 5070 instead of that meme card

>>106468592
The new dying light game comes out on the 19th which means the GRD that week or the week before will include reflex 2. Wouldn’t be surprised if the driver this week has it.

>>106468594
Boomers are readying their wallets right now
Time to dump another $10,000 on a TV they've been waiting for this

>>106468594
>per scene interpolation
>light sensors to adjust black levels
I mean this is cool in addition to what DV does which is mainly per scene brightness control, but this all seems really pointless to the average person. Also pirating a DV2 movie will probably be aids.

>>106464240
i think my RTX 3060 Ti is crapping out on me. i'm not looking for a major upgrade; i just want to replace the card without spending too much. what card should i look into? i'm fine hunting for a used card, too.

>>106468658
any 16GB VRAM card really, either brand.

>>106468551
why isn't this a bigger issue and why did people only find out about it during BF6 beta?

>>106468658
Do you think you can hold until black friday? the budget GPU market is fucked to the point where your best option is a $499 gpu that is considered mid range, maybe hope the 9060 XT (16gb) goes below msrp at $300 is probably the best you can get and sometimes they get returned and you can gamble on an open box sale same goes with the 5060 TI 16gb if you really cant afford the 5070

>>106466646
>am4 cpu pins
is am5 any better?

>>106468709
you have to be a retard intentionally trying to fuck your shit up to damage the CPU pins on anything from the last 20 years.
or a woman who loves to drop things because tehe cutesy ditz.

>>106468440
I bought it to replace a wired Zowie EC2 mouse.
Too bad Zowie doesn't give a fuck about selling wired mice anymore

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>>106468601
>we got reflex 2 before a single new preset for dlss 4
I'm starting to believe they are holding that on purpose to match the amd red stone launch

leaker here
new amd driver drops on thursday
pretty average update
october update will be crazy big

>>106468908
Tell your handlers to hurry up with that 9950x3d2

>>106468675
Upgrade to a 7600XT, got it thanks.

>>106468937
the 7600 XT is really bad anon, it does not even have access to fsr 4

>>106468955
he's not playing at 4k, who cares.

>>106468937
It's barely a sidegrade.

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would a rack with 8 h100s be okay for a homelab?

>>106468658
>>106468937
you know what, before you look to upgrade, what do you mean by crapping out?
have you been updating your drivers to something released after the 5000 series launched? are you plugging multiple displays into your gpu? are you trying to use features like dlss and frame gen?

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>>106468989
just buy the mini-PC.

>>106468995
holy shit i didn't know that was a thing, thanks

>>106468908
How big could it be? It's just drivers.

>stuck on the bios splash screen and a green mobo light
>hit reset after 30 seconds and it boots normal
Any ideas what was this? Just a very long boot time? am5 bug? ram issue?

>>106469000
idk if it ever released, but they make all kinds of professional stuff which would be more suitable in a home office than a warehouse server rack. wendell on level1techs talks about this kind of stuff once in a while.
or slap an rtx 6000 in something.

>>106468937
Thats a downgrade

>>106469023
that's what i had in mind, a threadripper with a 6000 but my inner jew was thinking i could get datacenter parts for cheap due to surplus or depreciation

>>106469000
>>106469023
https://youtu.be/zxP6B2HZ_IY
I think this is the video I was thinking about. nvidia arm professional desktop.

>>106468924
not my department

>>106469005
adrenaline is getting a facelift

>>106469036
bubble hasn't popped yet.

>>106469048
>>106468908
what the FUCK are you guys making for VALVE FREMONT, and maybe DECKARD?

>>106469056
2028
thats all i can say

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>>106469077
no shot they're releasing a 6-core PC with the equivalent of a 7600 in 2028.

>>106469090
since amdvlk has been depreciated for radv, look forward to fun stuff head.

>>106469090
This garbage has RDNA3.5 or whatever variant of it, DOA.

>>106469128
where are you getting that info from?

>>106469148
All AMD APUs currently in development have RDNA3.5 GPU cores.
And Valve doesn't shop for the latest APUs, the SoC for the Steam Deck was originally designed for the MS Surface.
Microsoft didn't place any order for that chip, so AMD pitched it to Valve.

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>>106469090
>>106469148

>>106465491
Look for the Reddit piracy megathread

>>106468992
the GPU frequently crashes, sometimes several times a day. it happens across various games, so i have to assume it's a hardware issue, but i'm not sure what exactly. it seems to work better when changing the slot it's in, but it reverts to crashing after a day or two, so it may just be a fluke.
yeah the drivers are updated and it never seems to change anything about the crashes. i've always used two displays. and idk if i'm using those features; i just leave everything at default.

>>106469456
btw i'm not that anon that replied about the 7600xt lol. he was trolling.

>>106469456
that's why it's crashing. roll back your drivers to 566.36 and unplug extra monitors from the nvidia card.

>>106469456
Get MSI Afterburner and downclock the GPU Core by -50~10MHz (there's an offset slider in the main screen).
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/msi-afterburner-4-6-6-beta-6-with-unofficial-rdna4-support.456792/
https://github.com/LunarPSD/NvidiaOverclocking/blob/main/Nvidia%20Overclocking.md
The guide is about overclocking, but you just have to move the slider to the left for downclocking.

What's the best storage setup for budget/entry PC?

1TB SSD + 1TB HDD?

>>106469456
Why don't you say what error shows up when it crashes?

>>106469534
why would you buy an hdd?

>>106469534
don't even bother with an HDD and use all the cash for a 2TB M.2. if you're on a budget build, then your mobo likely has only 1 or 2 M.2 slots anyway, so why waste precious slot space on an SSD with tiny capacity?

Two questions

>Coworker offered his 6950XT for 350, I currently own an 3060 Ti. Do I buy or wait for the 5070S?
>What's the best OLED gaming monitor at 1440p, 27" and doesn't cost an insanely jewish amount of money

>>106469570
>>106469574
price

it's like $120 for 2tb vs $80 1+1tb

>>106469599
so performance doesn't matter? then why are you buying anything at all?

>>106469626
??

You have 1TB ssd for speedy stuff

>>106469599
anon, I remember being really broke so I won't even clown on you. but the extra $40 for double the SSD space is absolutely worth it. current me would tell poor me to save up. I don't know where you live or what your income is like, but $40 is like 4 hours of minimum wage in the US. If you have the budget to be building a PC, can't you save up a little more?

>>106468551
no otherwise they wouldn't be more efficient when GPU bound, AMDs architecture is just nigger slop

Built a computer out of B760I Aorus Extreme (for three video output on just the motherboard), Ryzen 8700G, 64GB Corsair DDR5 4TB PCIE 4 SSD.
It just keeps randomly turning off. I don't get it. I got the RAM from someone who was actively using them until he upgraded, the board new off Amazon, and the CPU from a huge seller on eBay that I've bought stuff off of before and had it work with no problems. The PSU's not the problem since I've been using it for years with another MITX machine that had a 75W GPU.
What the hell is wrong with this thing? I'm at the point where I want to send the parts back, but I don't have a second AM5 board or CPU to test to see if either of the ones I have are the problem.

>>106469649
just save anon
trust me, you think a hard drive is good for general use but it isnt
theres a reason why hdds are only used like a storage room nowadays, you only put shit there for safe keeping not for constant use

>>106468908
amd redstone finally ready in october? that took a while

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>>106468551
>>106468685
Retarded take, even HWUB Steve's cherry-picked benchmarks don't support this bullshit.
NVIDIA GPUs are more power-efficient because they generally have more shading units that run at lower boost clocks.
GeForce GPUs also have larger on-die low-level cache, which means the GPU has a lot more cache hits compared to Radeon cards that need to make more trips to the VRAM or storage.
The smaller on-die cache is why Radeon cards scale better with SAM/ReBar.

>But Radeon GPUs have L3 infinity cache
That's used to make up for the raw memory bandwidth disadvantage of being stuck with regular GDDR6 chips.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5070-ti.c4243
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9070-xt.c4229

These are the kind of retards who fall for techtuber's Radeon shilling.

the 5600 is 95 euros right now but looking at price history it was 75 euros in december. do you guys think it will fall again or was it a one time thing?

>>106468551
nah its because amd niggaclocked their 9070xt to use 1.2v while nvidia's chips are all operating at 1.1v or lower

Need small form factor and decent performance combo for my wife. We are in a city now and can't have two towers so I want to I move her to an iMac or the little Mac boxes and the external monitor. She works part time graphic design. What will perform well?

>>106464939
I have that same panel, it looks like shit

>>106468551
Nah, my 7950X3D uses like 80W tops in games with a 4090.

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>>106467943
sorry anon all Nvidia cards melt

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>>106468146
I can't hear a thing either and I can cool more than 5000 watts. Your CPU melts at 100 watts

>>106468908
Pretty sure Microsoft is supposed to drop a huge update for windows 11 on october as well that is a massive bug fix and all those cumulative updates that people have been downloading through out the year that are dormant currently will become active so make of that what you will

>>106469730
>>106469766
>>106469803
none of this addresses system power draw, you're just talking about gpu power draw.

>>106469734
did you try running the RAM with XMP turned off?

>>106469817
minisforum mini-PC.

Should I still get the 5070 over 5060 ti 16gb for longlivety? I'm on 1080p and will stay there. Do some lighter blender things, videoediting, photoshop.

>>106470074
yes

Is frozr ssd radiator on msi tomahawk 850 max good or i need a buy one?

>>106470091
It works fine.

>>106470074
>blender things, videoediting, photoshop.
If you care about those then get the 5060 ti 16gb or wait for the 5070 super

>>106470080
Any speed increase the 5070 provides will be a meme when the card run out of vram while videoediting or rendering.

>>106470050
I never touched the XMP, then I went in and I thought I turned RAM overclocking completely off - it was set on auto before. It still randomly shut down and at that point I gave up on using it, took it out, and breadboarded it.
What's driving me nuts is that it's completely unpredictable when it just shuts down with no warning. Right now I put my old system back where it was and it's been running for a couple hours with no problems. I'll keep testing it with other stuff. The only thing I've found so far is that the the Thermaltake SF750 just might not work right with some motherboards and it may have something to do with antisurge. I was running the problem system outside of the case for a few hours the other day with a different PSU (and only one monitor attached) when I was getting it loaded up to take the old system's place.

If i only have ryzen 7600 with 4060, will 850w be ok?
It won't fry anything, right?

Someone wrote here that 1000w has intermittent spikes, this isn't the case with 850w?