>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

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Asking again, is a delta of 30 something to be worried about if the hotspot caps at 85 Celsius?

reposting in the proper thread because i was fucking retarded getting baited like that.
guess since i posted it recently enough i point at >>106507795 (You) (Cross-thread) from the last thread, though I forgot to take into account case fans.

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>>106508151
Run a gaming benchmark or other 3D benchmark that isn't FurMark.
If the temperature delta is around 20°C in other benchmarks, it's fine.

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>>106508187
Do you know of any free ones? I ran the 3dmark Steel Nomad demo benchmark but that just shows GPU temp and not hotspot. GPU topped out at 57 Celsius.

>>106508168
That CPU cooler is retarded, you're paying an insane premium that has fans that were designed over 10 years ago.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-cpu-air-cooler/9.html

Is that CPU/memory/motherboard from a Microcenter combo? Fine if so.
I wouldn't bother pairing a 7800X3D with a 2080 Ti, get a 7600X as a temp CPU and buy the Zen 6 X3D CPU in 1~2 years when you decide to get a better video card (keep the 7600X box and resell it).

This is the kind of PC I would build for that 2080 Ti, you must update the ASRock board BIOS.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nZ7VpK
If you want to avoid ASRock boards, the B650M Gigabyte Gaming PLUS WIFI you picked out is fine.

>>106508262
Download Unigine Superposition and either run 1080p extreme or 8K Optimized mode.
https://benchmark.unigine.com/superposition

Download and leave HWInfo64 running in the background while you're running Superposition to see the hotspot temp.
https://www.hwinfo.com/

3DMark's in-house performance monitoring app can conflict with HWInfo if they're both running. You can try it if you want.

>>106508286
Thank you will do.

>>106508273
>Is that CPU/memory/motherboard from a Microcenter combo? Fine if so.
all handpicking off of ratings and initial hearsay to temper afterwards with proper opinions afterwards, Microcenter is kind of a pain in the ass to navigate. 7800X3D was initially considered for an RX 9070 Sapphire Pulse combo but that might've been too steep a consideration on both fronts and sticking to the RTX 2080 Ti may be in my better front for the time being.

I just tried to swap out my old RAM kit https://www.newegg.com/a-tech-256gb/p/1X5-006W-003E6
with this https://www.newegg.com/a-tech-512gb/p/1X5-006W-000J5
and now it stalls at "0xAD - DXE_READY_TO_BOOT" and does not ever go further. The motherboard is an asrock romed8-2t. The old RAM worked just fine. Anyone have any ideas? The board supposedly supports LRDIMMs in addition to RDIMMs, so that shouldn't be the problem.

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>>106508286
So this was the result running the 1080p extreme benchmark. Slightly smaller gap of 26ish degrees Celsius. Anything to worry about here if I am not having any stability or performance issues? I am pretty new to this whole thing.
I read on reddit that more than 20 degree delta is bad but no one ever really explained why so I am not sure if they are repeating what they heard or if the delta itself actually matters for whatever reason as long as the max hot spot temp isn't insane ( correct me if I am wrong but 85.9 on a hotspot during a benchmark isn't awful? )

>>106508449
It seems fine, I would learn how to undervolt it to keep it running a bit cooler.
https://youtu.be/naBqsSfGX3A

>>106508499
This is running with a -50mV undervolt and nothing else. I should have specified. I tried -70 to -80 and it crashed during actual gameplay but it seems very stable at -50mV. Thank you for your help friend, you have put my mind at ease.

>>106508499
Is there a video like this for nvidia gpu's?

>>106508273

they seem to have issues with cooler manufacturing maybe lack of motivation after parked car

>>106508514
NTA but you can simply experiment with undervolting. At worst you will experience instability but even if it crashes you won't do any permanent damage to your hardware.

>>106508449
20C+ delta is bad on older GPUs but not this one. It seems AMD has improved the sensor on Rdna4 which makes it better at detecting hotspots than previous generations

>>106508499

dumbfuck 33 or 45 not 10k

>>106508566
Ah I see, so just outdated info for the hardware I am running. Thank you for letting me know!

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>>106508514
Most of the GeForce undervolting guides on YouTube make the card run power inefficiently @ lower voltages.

Download this latest beta version of MSI Afterburner.
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/msi-afterburner-4-6-6-beta-6-with-unofficial-rdna4-support.456792/

For the simplest OC+UV, raise the [Core (MHz)] offset slider in the main screen of Afterburner between +120~150Mhz.
You can start at around +180~200MHz offset for RTX 50 cards (they have more overclocking headroom).
Then lower the [Power Limit (%)] slider to 70~80%.
You're not voltage-capping the GPU with this method, but the lower power limit will restrict the card from requesting high voltages.

If you want to actually voltage cap the GPU, follow this guide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPpW9yXHvOU
The video raises the GPU core offset like I suggested earlier, and it modifies to curve to cap the maximum voltage draw.
Read this guide for details & how to apply & save changes (including applying preset on Windows bootup).
Don't set the OC+UV profile to apply on Windows startup until you've run plenty of stability test (gpu demanding benchmarks & games, including RT tests).
https://github.com/LunarPSD/NvidiaOverclocking/blob/main/Nvidia%20Overclocking.md

You can also OC the VRAM [Mem (MHz)] slider to around +800 MHz for RTX 30 & 40 series cards, and easily past +2000MHz for RTX 50 cards.

>>106508420
Update your bios on the old ram sticks and try booting with the new sticks

>>106508132
Doesn't that mean Intel b580s should only have slightly less compute to the 5060 ti? even more so if Nvidia doesn't omit dark silicon
>19.6M compared to 22.9M
An increase of 3.3M transistors shouldn't be as decisive as it seems to be desu
Techpowerup for example lists the 5060 Ti as 143% more performant

>>106508597
My current BIOS is v3.8 and newest is v4.1. It isn't really that out of date. The motherboard inherently supports LRDIMM, right? A BIOS update wouldn't be able to just add support for that right?
https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=ROMED8-2T#Download

>>106508607
You're assuming Intel's GPU design team is a good as NVIDIA's, it's simply not true.
Intel is trying to make dGPUs out of Xe core iGPU IPs, and they also have inferior drivers.
https://chipsandcheese.com/p/intels-battlemage-architecture

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>>106508595
Thanks for the info, all this computer stuff makes me feel like a big retard. Glad I decided to wait a few years and try to learn some things before attempting to build on my own.

Should I get the Asus PG27AQDM for vidya? I can't really justify spending more than that for some damn vidya.

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>>106508707
>2025
>OLED

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>>106508718

>>106508699
The offsets I specified are just rough guidelines; you can push higher if your GPU can run it stably (silicon lottery).
If you end up setting an unstable OC to apply on Windows bootup, enter safe mode and uninstall Afterburner.

>>106508733
That's a photo taken by a customer who reviewed the monitor you are asking about on Newegg

AI is going to kill us all after they have stolen all our money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ2tqs_vksc

Recs for a good cheap box fan I can put in front of my computer to cool it off better? Also would that even work to cool down my temps? I don't use ac.

>>106508846
I tried it once and it made almost no difference for me.

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>Me when I see the jpr numbers and AMD stock
guy at my local computer store started laughing hysterically at me when I asked for a 9070xt. I asked him what was so funny he just turned his screen towards me and I saw it... I was so upset I ran out of the place crying and tripped on one of the parking things and then 3 black teenagers outside started laughing at me too...
Team red bros I'm so tired of us always being losers, what can we do to change this situation?

>>106508879
9070 XT is too expensive for casual gamers to meaningfully increase Radeon's market share.
AMD needed to make a very strong 9060/XT priced at around $300 if they really cared about capturing the mainstream market.
AMD & Intel are investing in dGPUs to make better APUs (besides the AI market).

>>106508879
>Team red
How is it that this place has more corporate cheerleaders than Reddit?

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>>106508961
He's a shitposter for one, but the cringy corporate tribal shit was part of Radeon's official marketing.

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>>106508665
As far as i understand they got the compute right but can't use it well
Are the actual important bits are the
>20 Xe cores(iGPUs next to each other)
Vs
>18 TPCs(dGPUs next to each other)
I'm going on a whim here but does this mean each TPC is about 1.58 times more powerfull than an Xe core as per Techpowerup so i should evaualte accordingly or are there bandwidth/ GDDR shenanigans involved?
As a bonus are "Tensor cores" just an entirely different grouping of transistors doing matrix calculations that AMD fears?
Since that would explain why the RX 9060 XT, despite having significantly more transistors cannot do AI as well as even a B580.
Also thanks, post more

>>106508956
No they need a proper flagship. Anyone can make a cheap ass card.

>>106508607
architecture matters a lot too
it doesnt matter if intel has 30B transistors if most of them are sitting idle because of having low occupancy in each wave causing most CUs to operate below capacity, or constantly waiting for data because of high cache latency and/or low cache hitrate

>>106508961
>more corporate cheerleaders than Reddit?
What are tyou talking about? I was trying to buy a 9070xt to replace my obsolete 7900xtx and now you're making fun of me too??

>>106509011
Also a good example is to look at vega64. I believe it has more theoretical compute than the gtx1080ti but it had problems with wave occupancy in games which made it perform barely at a level of a much slower gtx1080

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>>106508999
Game devs care about install base, not maximum performance.
The halo effect is overrated if those products are out of reach for the vast majority of PC gamers.
The $200~400 video card market matters.

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>>106509023
Vega was god tier, 1080ti sissies could never ever play Indiana Jones and The Great circle + Doom The Dark Ages.

>>106508718
Do you think the upcoming "true gloss" 540hz monitors are going to fix this?
That fucking shill on youtube literally never mentions this issue in his reviews.

>>106509033
i regretted getting the 1080ti over the 2080 for a $50 savings. the 1080ti was only ever good for dx11 games and never did well in vulkan or dx12

>>106509041
Doubt the panel finish will change it.
Tandem OLEDs have diagonal dithering issues.
https://www.avforums.com/threads/lg-g5-oled-primary-rgb-tandem-2025-avf-review.2525553/page-69

>>106509025
>Hey, we can get to 40% market share with this strategy.
>Only gets 6%
lol lmao

>>106508956
But AMD fears the tensor core
>>106509033
I wonder what it would be like if we could mod silicon like we can solder VRAM

>>106508879
>Provoking a brand war for the 50th time
Yeah but the radeon posters the real problem. Kys

>>106509057
I think they actually lost shares somehow.

>>106509057
nvidia have been caught and sued for not disclosing crypto sales from gaming gpu sales before
you're an idiot if you think that 94% market share is purely because of gamers

>>106509067
And you think AMD omitted Radeon revenue from cryptocurrency miners?
AMD cards were also selling well during the mining boom.

>>106508879
>>106509017
>>106509057
>>106509058
>>106509064
>Trolling is not permitted. Do not instigate or participate in flamewars

>>106509073
nobody is buying amd radeon for ai today so you only get inflated numbers on one "team"

>>106509011
Can there be a hypothetical modular GPU card?
Like it has absurd bandwidth and is on PCIe 5.0 x16 and you just slot in extension cards containing compute units or VRAM on the extension card. There would be one card per PCIe gen and people would swap GPU chips or VRAM themselves
>Excellent upgradability and repairability desu

>>106509077
Shut up nerd.

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so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>106509033
The only game that mattered at the time was pubg and vega was terrible for it compared to the nvidia cards.
It probably gets smoked in fortnite too.

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>>106509077
>Trolling is not permitted. Do not instigate or participate in flamewars

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>>106509057
>>Only gets 6%
Because they are prioritizing margin over market share in reality.
The 9060 XT 16GB sells for $380 without AMD's rebates atm, it's literally NVIDIA -$50.
Hopefully they're just lying about increasing dGPU marketshare because they're so shit at this.

>>106509082
like a socketable gpu board with built-in IO like a mini-motherboard? its theoretically possible but there's no incentive to build something like that

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I'm at a loss. 5090 Astral for damn near four grand and the drivers just won't fucking work. Every game I open works for a few minutes then just a blackscreen. Help me pls.

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>>106509081
>ai today
There's no inflation going on. AMD desperately wants to attract more AI customers.
They're just shit at it.

>>106509113
are you trolling or serious?
It only crashes when you play games?
What psu do you have and is it fully plugged into the card? what drivers are you using, what OS?

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>>106509123
its a ritual post

>>106509123
He's just a very insecure Radeon card owner who always retaliates against the shitposter's bait.
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/Req1Zuzilo2iQQJbhVBOMw/
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/bNIzchFETF7pSm5X2znqXw/
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/VFzlqtR4Gh8n9j9edsfvrA/
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/c8HB6p-rD-Q_QZ3-A8E08w/

>>106509133
I thought as much lol.

>>106509123
>It only crashes when you play games?
It also crashes after a few minutes from furmark or any other stress test
>What psu do you have and is it fully plugged into the card?
1000 watts seasonic platinum and yes it is fully plugged in
>what drivers are you using, what OS?
I've tried latest multiple times on fresh windows installs and an older driver once. Nothing works.

>>106509118
maybe they should consider making rocm work on an out of box install on windows and linux for their existing radeon lineup before throwing buzz words around

>>106509141
get a 1200W instead

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>>106509098
Basically an GPU extension card with it's own extension cards, you pick how many Compute units and for what are on the card
>Want AI?
Fill it with tensor core card
>Want Ray tracing
Ray tracing core card
>Want VRAM
VRAM card
>Part broke
Repair easier because the cards can be swapped
>GPU card broke
Take out the core cards and VRAM if unrepairable and use on another card, if a slot is broken, possibly carry on without it

>>106509135
>The guy who is also making the same shitpost every thread breaking the no brand wars rule is at no fault for inciting other trolls to do the same
>It is only the one shitposting in favor of the red tribe which i hate that is bad
Kys fanboy they both should be permabanned

>>106509144
>own extension cards
that wouldn't be feasible because those units are tightly integrated and will lose significantly more performance over the high latency pcie bus than it would gain from larger compute units

>>106509118
Add more tensor cores and ROCm is shit for Consumer grade

>>106509148
Where did I say the NVIDIA shitposter's fine? The mods/jannies treat this place as a containment thread for retards, including the likes of (you).

>>106509141
>>It only crashes when you play games?
>It also crashes after a few minutes from furmark or any other stress test
cap your fps at 120 fps globally in the nvidia app and trying playing a less demanding game like counter strike.
If it doesn't crash it is definitely your psu being underpowered or maybe something wrong with your power cable.

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>Bought 5070 ti cuz Im a compfag cs2 nigger and fell for the reflex meme
>Get constant stutters and crashes no matter which driver version and even with reinstalled windows
>Days of troubleshooting and no fix
>Switch to 9070 XT
>Locked 240hz and the frametime graph is literally a straight line
Well that was a week of hell but at least it's over now lmao

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So insecure over a single shitpost.

>>106509159
calling out one side makes you a supporter of the other side in fanboys' minds

How much vram do you think nvidia will have on the 6090?

>>106509213
36gb from 384bit bus with 3gb models maybe

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>>106509210
I called out the NVIDIA shitposter in >>106508969
It's a failure of moderation.
I also wouldn't bring up CS2, the game fixes keep improving Intel CPU & NVIDIA GPU performance.

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>>106509202
>Anyone ever makes a post in this thread having an issue with a geforce card
>Nvidiot trolls on their mind game bullshit repost it later so they can then post the screencap of the og and then dismiss the story as a shitpost and not a real negative experience someone had with an nvidia product
I've seen this happen over a dozen times now and Im getting really sick of it. I remember the story back in the 2000s about nvidia hiring a marketing farm to shill in forums and Im starting to think they are still doing it to this day.

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>>106509081
>>106508956
>>106509118
>nobody is buying amd radeon for ai today so you only get inflated numbers on one "team"
Okay but real talk when the gAIy bubble finally bursts will I be able to get a 9070xt for half of the original MSRP? Honestly I'd settle for that.

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>>106509153
>Here's another thing to look up
I love you
Any ideas on how to reduce that?
From what I understand you mean the SLI question would be problem in this case as well. Best i could come up with is either to have them all connected to the same U shaped memory card and multiplexer 2

>>106509228
Not my problem you're shit at creative writing, and you can't help yourself from standing out like the abortion you are.
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/Bought%205070%20ti%20cuz%20Im%20a%20compfag%20cs2%20nigger%20and%20fell%20for%20the%20reflex%20meme/

>>106509237
>Everyone who disagrees with me is the radeon troll
You are becoming as schizo as nico troon calling everyone dlss schizo

>>106509224
I hope the 6080 could have specs like that and they keep the 6090 as a 512 bus card.
i've been trying out some upscaling/interpolation and i've seen full 16GB vram + 32GB system being used with topaz so 48GB would be great for the 6090.

>>106509247
There's nothing to agree or disagree with what I've said. You're shit at this. That's why you stand out.

>be me
>have a 3060 Ti
>coworker says "hey why don't you try my leftover 6950 XT?"
>fuck it, why not
>boot it up, run time spy just to check
>crashes on the first fucking run
>adjust drivers, clocks, etc
>try Doom benchmarks to see if that saves it
>creates artifacts from the last menu I was on (akin to OLED burn-in) when I close out of the game
>immediately yoink it and drop in my 3060 Ti (no issues)

Fuck this, I'm just going to wait for the 5070S.

>>106509187
It sounds like you had a faulty card or were doing some kind of weird software setup.
In any case, locking at 240hz on cs2 is a bad idea.

I'm rooting for you to make it out of silver.

>>106509234
The Steam Hardware Survey captures gamers.
Don't give us the laptop/legacy card inflation excuses either.
The new RTX 50 cards' hardware % are also affected by those devices.
There are nearly 8x more 5070 cards than the RX 9070 in the Steam Survey; the 9070 XT install base is too small to appear.

>>106509235
latency is a very hard problem to solve
cpu makers have resorted to tricks like integrating the memory controller onto the same die as the cpu where it used to be a separate chipset called the north bridge, a lot of logic in cpus like sophisticated prefetchers and multi-level caches were invented to reduce the latency impact of dram which hasn't improved since the 1990s or 2000s

the separate expansion cards that you're thinking of used to be the case when 3D accelerators were just introduced and worked alongside 2D accelerators across the pci bus and it wasn't a large deal back then since there were lower hanging fruit for performance improvements like year-over-year 2x clockspeed increases

also the customization of compute units that you're talking about is kind of being done right now by manufacturers who are resorting to tiles or chiplets with specific uses and put together to create products like the various arrowlake socs and strix halo. but these are done with highly sensitive and precise processes (think micrometer scale vias/interconnects with zero contaminants required) which isn't field replaceable by the user

>>106509254
maybe they'll go full chiplets next gen and continue with a 512bit bus who knows
gb202 is already technically two gb203s stitched together logically but still produced as a monolithic chip so it seems they're testing out multi chip modules already

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>>106509187
>even with reinstalled windows
Maybe your Nvidia card would work fine if you'd stop using such a shit OS. Funny how the cards have turned an getting Nvidia to work in Linux is actually easier if not just works right out of the box just fine even with the fact that Nvidia hates Troonix users.

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How come progams run 30% slower when running 16 at a time on my 16 core 9950x3D?

>>106509398
Thank the cross-ccd latency Oscar.
Keep your BIOS updated.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-microcode-improves-cross-ccd-latency-on-ryzen-9000-cpus-ryzen-9-9900x-and-ryzen-9-9950x-cross-ccd-latency-cut-in-half-to-match-previous-gen-models

>>106509265
Did you run DDU (twice if not in safe mode) before you installed different drivers?
6950 XT is quite strong on paper, slightly behind the 5070 in raster.
But it draws a lot more power, probably more than a 5080 in average gaming loads.

Is a 7800x3d worth the $100 AUD increase over a 9700x?

>>106509443
Yup. Did it twice and I undervolted it to prevent power overdraw. I'm running a 750W unit though, I wasn't expecting it to be THAT hungry.

>>106509457
If the games you play scale very well with the 3D V-cache
I’d stick with the 9700X for 4K gaming.

>>106509457
Yeah 9700x is a massive disappointment

Is it just in my particular shithole or are cases getting expensive? All i see is a bunch of chink labels with the actual good ones shooting up in price.

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>>106509414
ty anon! I will try and update my bios

>>106509802
cases are a low tech, low margin part that takes a lot of space on the shelves so I imagine most stores try to keep modest amounts of them in stock and if they run out then it is what it is

>>106509954
I was thinking that with prices for parts rising in general means there's also less cases on the market because people just aren't buying like they used to.

>>106509802
tariffs, none of those are made in the US and they're not getting exceptions like chips are. Just big hunks of metal being shipped around. Your best bet is to try and find something already in the US/on sale.

>>106510153
i'm not even in the US. It's bad all over.

my old rugged "Samsung Xcover" (rugged version of samsung galaxy) is on its last days

Whats a good phone i could buy with the following options
>can install custom OS like LineageOS
>replaceable battery

>>106509398
what program?

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my pc sucks
i still use
ryzen 5 3600 with 3060 12gb
i want to upgrade
but i just bought this in 2022

>>106510201
>>>/spg/
>replaceable battery
None.

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I don't have flame wars or complaints.

Just wanna know if any PC cases catch any of your attention. I've built PCs for 10 years but was so obsessed with good parts that I never stopped to pick a pretty case. What are some attractive full size ATX cases you guys like?

>>106510211
2027 at least some should release.

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>>106510242
Just do an anime case with female rover's big udders

>>106508085
I'm buying 5060 8GB

>>106510328
rip

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>>106510242
I'm a big fan of the masterframe series from coolermaster and have been really debating grabbing one.

>>106510362
why do all these boomers want closed cases? muh nostalgia? they look like shit and you need to take the sides off if you wanna check on the components

>>106510372
Why would I need to check the components? I'm not making a mistake.

>>106510372
why do all these zoomers want fishtanks? muh pride parade at home? they look gay and you need to dilate your neovagina

>>106510379
> I'm not making a mistake
Thats not why you, unc
>>106510385
Uh oh contrarian tranny seething

>>106510388
Explain why I would need to check on my components then?

Luv' glass side panel cases
'Ate bright RGB components
Simple ass

>>106510388
>Uh oh contrarian tranny seething
gay little nigga just said no u lmao

>>106510392
Are you brown or really just dumb?
>1. Heat is a silent killer.
Even if you placed everything perfectly, dust buildup can choke airflow in a matter of months. A 5–10°C rise in temps may not sound like much, but it shortens component lifespan, throttles performance, and can even push parts into thermal shutdown.
>2. Things shift without you touching them.
Cables can sag, fans can loosen, thermal paste dries, and screws vibrate out over time. You didn’t place them badly—physics just does its thing. A quick look inside can prevent a fan blade being blocked or a GPU drooping into trouble.
>3. Small problems snowball fast.
A fan dying today = higher temps tomorrow = VRMs stressed = motherboard failure next year. Checking means you catch the cheap fix before it becomes the €400 nightmare.
>4. Upgrades and compatibility.
When it’s time to drop in that shiny new GPU, RAM kit, or SSD, you’ll need to know if there’s clearance, a free slot, or enough connectors. Better to check in advance than unbox €800 worth of hardware only to find it doesn’t fit.
>5. Peace of mind.
You don’t need to be paranoid, but a 2-minute visual check every few months keeps you confident your PC isn’t silently cooking itself. It’s like checking your car oil—you might be fine forever, but when it goes wrong, it’s expensive.

>>106510402
>tranny speaking like a nigger
like clockwork LMFAO

>>106510403
None of those are issues.
>heat/dust
We have the tech to check via software, I can also check how my front mesh looks
>things shift
Yeah no lol also your thermal paste isn't drying up overnight zoomzoom, again this can all be checked via temps in software
>a fan dying today
my noctuas aren't dying
>upgrades
it's called a spec sheet, every case has one
>peace of mind
don't buy ewaste

Now then, tell us why you really need to look inside your case.

>>106510403
>chatgpt response
end your life

>>106510424
>i can look at symptoms via software but cant see the root causes!
dumb nignog...

>>106510434
>cant see the root causes!
You can SEE your thermal paste drying? Buddy, you're new here so I'll give you a break. Just lurk moar

>>106510438
>skill issue
your defeat is accepted

>>106510440
You're the one who needs to double check his work daily, lil bro.

>>106510445
>lil bro
It's why I've become way richer than a nigger like you lol

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>>106510461
>can't argue his point, needs more insults
Now THAT'S what I call a concession!

>>106510493
>didnt try to deny
stay poor, niggie

>save money by buing mATX card
>cases cost exactly as much but have no preinstalled fans
>in the end everything costs the same
at least it's a smaller build, I guess

>>106510502
>no preinstalled fans
Nice, now you can throw some noctuas in there.

>>106510509
I love me some overpriced, poo brown fans

>>106510516
If they're overpriced then you can link fans that perform the same for less?

>>106510502
Too late now but you should know that you can put a mATX board in an ATX case. It looks a little odd but aesthetics clearly aren't the priority when you're poormaxxing.

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I want one...

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>>106510403
>€
>Eurofag
Migrate to The United States like any self respecting euro since 1600, you can't even have governments or nations anymore.
>Stop killing games turning into corpos should worship EU!
Evrrything good a euro does will be subverted by the politics equivalent of proprietary trash
Just look, you can't even produce or design consumer chips like Intel, an utterly canonical continent desu

>>106510550
>Migrate to The United States like any self respecting euro since 1600
I think we have enough muslims here

>>106510519
>https://www.nyb.com/fiberglass-reinforced-plastic-fans/

>>106510543
what's that?

>>106510565
My bad, it's a Hyte X50 Air. They're supposed to come in a bunch of colors at some point.

>>106510568
ugh, the ?glass? panel one is ugly as hell

>5900X
>4070S
When is it time for me to upgrade?

>>106510577
Yeah, it looks terrible.

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Where to buy cases with 3.5" bays? Need 5-6, prefferably with decent airflow

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>10651059
Forgot, in turkey with 25-60$(1000-2000TRY) budget
t. Turkey

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JeetyzReviews and the Jewman linked up - need it or keep it?
https://youtu.be/xQG-smoI6DM

>>106510550
Shut up retarded nigger faggot, ASML is an EU company (Dutch) and it is running bitches like Intel. Suck my unwashed cock before I breed your cow mother

>some le epick rgb build
>can't focus on anything other than massively sagging gpu
money well spent

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What UPS are my fellow 5090 users using? I'm thinking of this.

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FUCK KOMPLETT
FUCK KOMPLETT

Daily reminder that komplett is a dogshit company

FUCK KOMPLETT
FUCK KOMPLETT
FUCK KOMPLETT

baiting me with a 100$ discount on 5070ti and promising 1-2 week delivery then fucking me in the ass and bumping it up to a 7-8 week delivery, no i cannot swap to another 5070ti for same price, no i cannot get a discount on any other 5070ti they had in storage, they recommended i could swap to Asrock 9070 XT for the same price LOL, LMAO EVEN!!!

FUCK KOMPLETT

>>106510891
>poornigger problems
Thank God I was born white!

>>106510891
wrong forum, there are no scandis here, except you and me
nbody knows what this even is here, nobody gives a shit
you are shame for white people, buy a 5090 to restore your honor

>>106510891
>suddenly a norwegian retard
>>106510983
>5090
imagine being this much of a poorfag

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Retard here, I like the antec c8 but what kind of fans do I need to buy? I like rgb but apparently you have reverse and shit. I dont really get it, what do I get if I wanna fill the whole case with 120 mm fans?

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>>106511004
>RTX 6000 pro for gaymen

>>106511029
I'd buy two just to make sure.

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>>106511052
>two Nvidia RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell Workstation Edition for gaymen

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>>106510900
not poor, but why the fuck would i pay 1100$ for a 750$ msrp card?

>>106510983
i know, i just needed to vent somewhere thats not reddit, and why would i ever want a 5090

>>106511179
>and why would i ever want a 5090
being not poor has many benefits like not screaming about problems and just buying things and moving on with your life

>>106511198
>being not poor has many benefits like not screaming about problems and just buying things and moving on with your life
I wish someone would tell my boss that

>>106510754
ASML is also the reason chips are about to get super expensive.
They just price hiked their machines from 150 mil to 350 mil.
TSMC hiking their wafer cost by 40k is just them reacting to ASML

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Any advice for portable monitors?

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>>106511198
true, i take it back:) maybe im poor and retarded, but i still HATE komplett for taking away my excitement from ordering a new pc build, after having sat on the fence for 6~ months

>inb4 "you've waited 6months you can wait another 2"

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>>106511335
>but i still HATE komplett
only one small problem, no one cares

>mfw Komplett has 2 months return policy

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>>106508085
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/3630525

8 points away from global top 100 port royal across all hardware, #100 is 42864 to my 42857. I never thought I'd get this close, I would flash a 1000w vbios on this astral right tf now to get a number if i had more than a 1000w psu. need like a 12-1400

>>106511353
clearly you're losing because you aren't using a deltamate block

>>106509113
no refunds.

>>106511353
How much do you get in firestike?

where the fuck is the 5080 super?
that is all

>>106508085
Why isnt the Crucial T705 listed as premium here or is this list just old? Read its supposedly really good?

>>106511762
its really old. its since been replaced by the 9100 pro which was then replaced by the sn8100

>>106509082
>hey dawg I heard you like computers so we put a computer inside your computer so you can compute while youre on your computer
I think most PCs simply won't have a GPU in the next decade or so. You'll have workstation/playstation and the chip you choose will dictate what it's better optimised for. Who needs vram when you have ram ram.

>>106511742
its just a 5080 with chink soldered on vram thats gonna die on you in 6 months

>>106511807
God damn i completely read over the whole sn8100 bit my bad

This whole fancontrol thing has kind of made me want to stop using it. The dev is actually an idiot

>>106511912
if people have to use os control rgb/fan software, your bios failed you.

>>106511912
v228 is working great for me (9800x3d, 5080)

I've been using this app since like 2020 I think.

>>106511917
fancontrol is an order of magnitude better than any shitty bios fan control.

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What should I buy next to use as a display?

>G5 55"
>C4 42"
>27" 4k QDOLED
>32" 4k WOLED
>take the blue pill and go back to 27" 4k IPS and forget about the OLED memes all together
>Nothing / Wait for 220ppi 5k QDOLED / wait for 240hz TVs

The eye strain saga continues

so i'm testing interpolating videos and interpolating a 4k60fps video to 120fps uses all 16GB vram and then needs another 10.2GB system ram?
I should have got a 5090 I guess. desu senpai

>>106511921
The problem is that fancontrol uses a 15 year old driver that is an attack vector for malware, so windows gave the retards using it time to create a new solution and finally blocked it from windows a few days ago.

The dev of fancontrol never bothered to do anything about it and then panic pushed an update that broke everyone’s configs. Now the latest version still doesn’t even detect most sensors. It’s all a mess because of laziness.

>>106511931
>What should I buy next to use as a display?

and what do you use your display for?

>>106511921
>fancontrol is an order of magnitude better than any shitty bios fan control.
its literally cpu overhead vs no overhead

>>106511946
the overhead is irrelevant on a modern computer.
The more advanced fan tuning along with being able to use it across different motherboards is worth it.

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>>106511943
desktop/media/gaymen
wym

>>106511946
I really wish Bios had an option for fan control via GPU temp.

>>106511931
Just buy a good miniled like the m27p6. Oleds are dogshit

>>106511995
go to a store like best buy that has monitors/tvs and figure out what size you want first.

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I'm thinking of starting a PC building side hustle. Should I stick with AM4 for cheaper parts and overall cheaper computers, or AM5 for more upgrade opportunities for the buyers in the future?

>>106510210
>i still use
>ryzen 5 3600 with 3060 12gb
It's not that bad, you could upgrade the CPU to a 5700X or 5800XT, but the video card will be the bottleneck.
You can buy a 5060 Ti 16GB or 9060 XT 16GB and resell the 3060 for around $200, but they're only around 50~60% faster.
You could wait for Zen 6 and build a new PC then.

>>106511967
the overhead is relevant because you cant trust task manager or any cpu measure tool on windows honestly. it creates a crap ton of zombie processes that you cannot see that prevents ryzens ccds from idling

>>106510242
>What are some attractive full size ATX cases you guys like?
Meshify 3 XL, North XL, ProArt PA401/602 (mid tower though).

>>106508718
>OLED
too many people fall for the oled meme. I get that they look nice but they're literally disposable and I don't want to buy a new screen every year

>>106510614
>cases with 3.5" bays? Need 5-6
>in turkey with 25-60$(1000-2000TRY) budget
GL finding one you can afford.
This one's $71.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wNrG3C/cooler-master-case-nse400kkn2

Meshify 2 has a lot of drive space, but it costs nearly $200.

>>106511931
Skip all that and go back to IPS, you're going to return all those displays.

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Upgrading my PC

>Silverstone RL07 -> Fractal Torrent full-size
>3600X -> 5700X3D
Everything else remains the same. My GPU is a 6800XT.

>>106512058
AM4 for budget PCs and AM5 for higher end parts.

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>>106508718
>2025
>IPS

>>106512246
your ac unit looks sick anon

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>>106512250
>He bought an ips panel

>>106512250
It's hard to believe but there are people that aren't obsessed with black and don't stare the whole day on a black screen in a dark room.

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>>106512004
does not exist in this market here yet, only like tcl va minileds and they are pricy too
>Oleds are dogshit
to be decided
my only problem is the fringing on qdoled so far

>>106512022
24-55" is doable at desk distance desu depends

>>106512232
If WOLED is not as bad as QD honestly it would be the best for desktop use
until QD gets high ppi enough
although WOLED still has problems and if the dithering due to chrominance overshoot is fucked on pc it looks very bad
on displays they might not use it? unsure harder to see?
idk, have to try stuff
getting fatigued trying too much crap

>>106512250
not that big of a deal honestly
maybe I haven't used a ips monitor in too long I forgot
laptop IPS it's not that bad
contrastfags are trying too hard (I say as I have qdoled to the right currently)
idk
who cares

>>106512259
just use bias lighting and it will look like an oled

>>106511025
>All 120mm fans
Reverse fans for the side and bottom (6)
Regular 120mm fans for the top and rear.

>Alternative
I'd get 140mm fans for the top @ rear.
If you can find 140mm reverse fans, I'd get those for the bottom too.

>>106512305
wait, what is bias lighting?
and how to make ips look good?
I've been doing design work on a toshiba laptop and I don't even know if its some type of va or ips but im planing on buying the gigabyte m27ua

>>106512411
https://youtu.be/2ei1STveLYc?t=319
Last tip in the video.

I had found an XFX Radeon RX 9070 16GB GDDR6 Swift OC Triple Fan Gaming Edition listed at 388€ yesterday, sold by some random Bulgarian shop. Did i fuck up by not buying it? Looking to replace GPU, just upgraded CPU MOBO and RAM from A10-9850k and 8Gb DDR3 2133Mhz to R5 9600x, Gigabyte 850 D3HP, Gskill Flare X5 2x16Gb 6000 CL36. Still using my Gigabyte RX560 4Gb that i got in 2019 for the GPU, but at the same time im using a 500 watt be quiet PSU, so id prob need to change to a higher wattage for a new GPU.

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>>106512411
just add a light bruh

>>106512411
>gigabyte m27ua
the gs27u is even cheaper btw should be

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>>106508085
I’m stumped, /g/. I repasted my ROG G513QY while replacing the palm rest because the temps were awful and I think I made them even worse. I replaced the Liquid Metal with PTM7950 and all of the thermal gel with thermal pads between 0.5-1mm based on what all the internet guides said. Idle temp is like 60C now, indicating to me bad mounting pressure. Did I use the wrong pad thickness, do I need to add washers to the heatsink screws to increase pressure? Anyone have any idea?

>>106512578
replace the pads with thermal paste or thermal putty

>>106512593
What’s the rationale there? Do you think the pads are too thick and decreasing pressure? I’ve seen quite a few people repaste this laptop with pads on the VRM/chokes/mosfets successfully, though putty was the stock TIM for sure.

Since 5080s are finally going back down to MSRP again, is it worth it over an RX 9070 XT? It's about $200 more. I'd preferably stay on Linux indefinitely (WITH WAYLAND), and would want to do gaming, ai generation/upscaling, cool mpv stuff etc. Leddit says that nvidia is always superior for ai stuff. Is this true? What do anons think of this?

>>106512614
The 5080 is a shit value even at MSRP. I can’t believe they put 16gb in a card that costs over a grand. I’d wait for the super stuff with 24GB if I needed 5080 performance and a 5070ti if not. 9070XT would be the recommendation though if you didn’t say you wanted to do AI.

>>106512622
So it's true that amd is bad for ai work? If so that really sucks

>>106508085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR6gR8I6nvI

>>106508085
I have that case (normal not xl) and want mine to look like that
Do you have the sauce for the OP?

>>106512636
Unfortunately, it is true. It didn’t have to be that way, but there is so much momentum behind Nvidia’s CUDA that it’s like a runaway freight train. There’s no slowing it down, people know how to use CUDA and they don’t want to learn something new and less-developed or invest the time to make it a viable competitor. So we will get our monopoly and we will like it.

5070 ti super or 5080 super assuming they're both actually releasing with 24gb of vram. I play bideo games on 1440p and I would like to learn hownto use local Ai. Also would it be retarded to pair either with a ryzen 9 9950x3d over a 7 7800x3d?

>>106512655
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/XvjZxr

>>106512666
9950x3d isn’t a bad idea for high end Nvidia cards, you need the extra CPU power to get around the driver overhead. You’ll need at least a 9800x3d to make the 5080 faster than a 9070xt in most scenarios.

>>106512604
probably, yes
could be user error or could be because they changed something about the cooling plate

Is Nvidia usable enough now for linux wayland? Or is it still bad enough to get an amd card?

how bad is 0,7-0,8mm steel case?
cuz it ain't cheap either

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>>106510754
>eurocuck, you are a homosexual
your homosexual company is a parasite on the Intel process node to make it more expensive as per your natural satanic drive make every tech more expensive until the death of humanity
Now repent to the southern Baptist church and migrate to Arkansas, to make Heretic style games running on Christian Ubuntu.

>>106512604
Replace putty with putty.
Replacing putty with pads is not rational, some people may have success with pads but the reason is putty is used in the first place is because the Z-height isn't always consistent with components and pads degrade in performance if pressure is to low or too high.

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>>106512664
>get our monopoly
There is no monopoly; the largest tech companies would rather design their own AI hardware & CUDA alternative than settle for AMD's overpriced options.
Intel was massively shortsighted in the 2000s and arrogantly ignored the mobile SoC & compute GPU market.

>>106512730
I’m willing to accept that pads could potentially be the issue, but would that cause my CPU idle temp to be so poor? I’m even wondering if the 0.2mm ptm7950 I used in the dies wasn’t thick enough, but that’s what everyone else used and I’m not going back to Liquid Metal. I’m wondering if the pads are even the issue, but thank you.

>>106512666
Likely the same as now, 5070ti isn't that much slower than a 5080, and unlike the 70-70ti comparison you don't/won't get more vram.
If you're looking at a 5080 you might as well step to the card you actually want, the 5090. It actually offers you a significant performance uplift.
>>106512674
Ignore this retard

>>106508151
its just a 9070 xt thing op

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>>106512735
IP is retarded and a waste of time
>It's literally 16th century monopoly grants but for tech
I don't wnat the south sea company or the east India company GPU trafficking in Chinkland when it suits them and then literally suing any competition away when it suits them, i want actual companies with property rights instead of privileges on non scarce resources like ideas
>We must embark on GNU/Jihad to rid ourselves of IP faggotry or they will milk us dry until we reach AI or soviet Walmart dystopia

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>>106512674
>you need the extra CPU power to get around the driver overhead
It's irrelevant to the class of CPUs he's planning to use.

>>106512788
You're missing the point that the wealthier potential customers for AMD would rather develop their own AI training solutions.
The MI355 isn't good enough for large volume orders.

>>106512744
Pads dont like compressing beyond a certain point, too thick and they could reduce pressure on the CPU.
Also don't think of PTM as a "pad" it's more of a paste that has been pre-cured into a sheet. Once it melts it thins out from the pressure of the the cooler.

>>106512795
Explain why the 9070xt even beats the 5080 in the new battlefield if you don’t play at 4k. The driver overhead is very real and you need a beefy cpu to get around it.

>>106512868
Explain why you need to cherry-pick titles, an unfinished game at that, if the issue is solely down to driver overhead.
BF6 is clearly tuned for console optimizations, just like Ghost of Tsushima and all the other Radeon-favored games.
A game prioritizing console optimization doesn't mean it's all NVIDIA's driver overhead causing performance bottlenecks.

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>>106512868

>>106512889
Ah ok, you don’t have any explanation then. It’s not just battlefield, it’s a great many titles. It’s to the point where I’d recommend people like AM4 poorfags to get the 9070xt instead because it’s going to perform way better on their 5800x3d most of the time.

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>>106512897
Nice fake benchmark lol

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>>106512922
More or less a similar lineup at 4k

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>>106512901
I gave you the explanation, and CS2 is the best example for it since Valve doesn't need to make any console optimizations for that title.
>I’d recommend people like AM4 poorfags
Except the guy in >>106512666 isn't building an AM4 poorfag PC in 2025.
Even most prebuilts moved on to AM5 or Intel DDR5 PCs.

>>106512948
Yeah, 4k is the only resolution where the overhead becomes mitigated, like I said. I bet your benchmark was with a 9800x3d, which only confirms my point. Look at the results I posted, lower end CPUs do better with AMD.

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>>106512922
>fake benchmark
You lose credibility when you post Hardware Downclocked's GPU content.

>>106512922
>less CPU usage
>less GPU utilization
>less power draw
>10 fps less on average
>1 fps less at 1% low
eh?

>>106512969
Do you have a benchmark with a 7600 that says something different? Because I only see anons posting 9800x3d benchmarks that only prove my point.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fbTQJn
+4070 super
for some reason the cooler isn't available on PCPP but they sell it on amazon (?). So I added it manually.

I absolutely do not care for RGB or any lights coming from my PC (I'll probably tape over the debug LEDs with electrical tape once I've installed everything and made sure it's working). I've never had any RGB stuff in any of my PCs, so I am not familiar with controlling it (turning it off). The motherboard has:

2x Addressable V2 RGB LED connector (JARGB_V2)
2x RGB LED connector(JRGB)

The case also comes with an ARGB/PWM hub that's controllable with a case button or you can connect it to the motherboard, is that enough?

>>106513012
Look at the CS2 benchmark with different generations of CPUs, especially the 9060XT vs 5060Ti with the latest performance updates applied by Valve.
NVIDIA driver overhead only matters to frugal/poorfags, because NVIDIA doesn't give a shit about poor people who buy their cards once every 8~10 years.

>>106512382
Thanks bro. Why 140mm fans tho? Are they better for cooling?

>>106513092
Their fans don't need to run as fast to generate the same amount of airflow as 120mm fans do.

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I have a limited budget to splurge it all on a gaming monitor. Is the Acer KG240Y X1 a decent 1080p monitor?

>>106513024
There are some third-party software that will help you disable RGB, like OpenRGB.
https://openrgb.org/
There may be better apps, but I'm not familiar because I don't buy RGB fans, and my motherboard's RGB can be toggled off in the BIOS.

>>106512813
AMD didn't steal the Intel 8080 or make the engineers of incel forget how to make the 8080 by copying it.
Whether AyyMD hates AI or is incompetent to the point they put less AI cores in their GPUs than competitors(better AI performance on B580 compared to 9060XT, nearly double the price, especially second hand lol) is entirely irrelevant to my argument.
CUDA,X3D, Hyperthreading are purely legal monopolies where the competition has to make redundant wastes of time just not to offend the armies of lawyers who would be aorking on real things otherwise.
Tech companies should compete on tech products to be used, not on pieces of paper saying which idea is who's to claim

>>106513099
It appears to be a region-specific model, not covered by major monitor reviewers.
You'll have to find owner feedback.
I'd focus on getting a well-reviewed +165Hz monitor.

>>106513150
>CUDA,X3D, Hyperthreading a
Except these wouldn't exist without the monetary rewards/incentives.

>>106513098
I see. This is what I've found, do you think it's okay for the C8 case?
>side: 2x PHANTEKS M25 Gen2 PWM D-RGB Reverse Blade 140mm Black
>bottom: PHANTEKS M25 Gen2 PWM D-RGB 3-Pack Reverse Blade 140mm Black
>top: Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB 3-Pack
>rear: Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB
Couldn't find reverse for p14 pro

>>106512726
>poornigger crying
EU owns the chip industry and you take it from behind like a good little cuck bitch just like your mom fucking niggers

>>106513196
The side panel might appear fuller with 3x 120mm fans over 2x 140mm, but that's up to you.
Arctic Pro fans are nice, but set a custom fan curve. They run quite loud past 1500 rpm or so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywSHuwWn85g

>>106513168
Which would be the better products to sell like what R&D should be done for instead of 16th century monopoly charters to specifically ban anyone else from thinking the same thing, as they stake a claim on everyone elses thoughts on their minds with a non scarce resource

'ello /g/ents I am looking to upgrade from a R5 3600
>workloads
Gentoo ofc, VMs, C:DDA and generally older vidya
>budget, region, etc
literally irrelevant
Any TLDR on dual CCD CPUs vs singles?
Also how are 4 RAM sticks doing on AM5? Would 4*16GB 6000CL30 quad channel even be possible?
PC building did change quite a bit in the past few years lol

>>106513362
You'd be incentivizing companies and groups to become better at copying others' inventions, and inventors would be the risk-taking suckers.
Dismantling IP laws isn't the solution.

>>106513417
14600k on current sale for poorfags
14900k/9800x3d for rich fags
really is that simple
or you can slot in a 5700x3d if they are still being produced
don't do 4* ram
simple as

>>106508085
Nice to see my chassis featured. Still rockin' the Fractal North.

>>106509267
>In any case, locking at 240hz on cs2 is a bad idea
Why?

>>106509187
buggy engine

>>106509267
>locking at 240hz
can't you use the vrr mode that ditches excess frames but still renders them so you get better input lag? but still syncs to refresh to don't tear
seemed good idk

>>106513526
input lag I guess but why not above

>>106513507
thanks
shit, why is running 4 RAM sticks bad nowadays? Extra latency?

AMD EBYN :DDDDDDDD

>>106513417
for the most part gaming performance suffers a tiny bit over multiple CCDs, some exceptions do exist, the difference decreases as you increase resolution. AM5 doesn't do quad channel, populating all 4 slots is asking for problems, just get 2x32GB 6000CL30 and forget about it. as >>106513507 put it, get current top of the line or upgrade to an x3d am4 chip to eek a bit more life from your current setup. simple as

>>106510242
i like the thermaltake ax700
https://thermaltakeusa.com/products/ax700-tg-super-tower-chassis-ca-11b-00f1wn-00

>>106513613
alrighty, got'cha. Godspeed, lads

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>>106513427
Literally all of them take risks, what I'm saying is that you don't have any right to the thoughts of other people. If i light a fire the first time on earth, i own that fire, not the concept of fire. If someone uses non scarce means to get an identical fire like figuring out how i made that fire and copying me, i lose nothing because i don't own their thoughts, i own my means of making a fire.
>People do things because they want things, not because they want to be monopolies, they want to monopolies because that's the easiest way of getting things on the short term as it requires no value to be produced besides the bare minimum
You would have us worship Intel's dual cores, let alone Hyperthreading in 2025 for you would have destroyed AMD in it's infancy.
IP infact has ruined science as well as tech with for one example, the paid subscription model of papers conjured up by Ghislaine Maxwell's father. IP is the death of thought as we know it.

I'm drunk but i just wanna tell you bros my 5070 isp lenty for 1440p gaymin at high-ish settings and DLSS quality/balanced thank you for reading my post

>>106512163
>You could wait for Zen 6 and build a new PC then
When is that?

>>106513666
Inventors take the bigger risk, followers much less so.
>If i light a fire the first time on earth, i own that fire, not the concept of fire
Designing processors & a compatible software stack isn't as simple as lighting a fire.

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>>106513589
ddr5 was not as mature as ddr4 platforms so instability
shit board design
harder to run high speeds
shit some ddr5 4 slot ram mobos you can't even oc much due to the shit mobo design
so really is no point considering you have fuck huge ram modules now

guess the 14600k deal is over for americans
you could have gotten some ass creed game + bf6 ultra giga edition during early preorders too effectively making it a free cpu

it's over

>>106513691
Next year, the earliest. 2027 for sure.

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What am I going for?

>>106513669
it's even plenty for 4k with dlss my little nig

>>106513704
bad airflow?

>>106513722
I dont know?

>>106510598
The lancool 217 has 4, to get more than that you probably need to buy a separate drive bay rig.

>>106513704
I had something similar to this for my old PC's case, the airflow from the front is nonexistent

>>106513712
Even a 4070 is plenty for 4k with dlss.

>>106508085
Working on a budget here can anyone rate my current build? Trying to get the best bang for my buck. Don't want a GPU (unless you can find something that matches the 8600G and a more performant CPU).

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BQGTyW

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>>106513712
I wouldn't use it but a 5060ti for 4k would be totally acceptable if you knew how to open a settings menu.

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I sent GN a slightly huffed message about using the FFXIV benchmark everywhere.
I'm sure they'll just keep using it.

>>106513214
kek you don't own shit. What's even sader is the state of the yuropoor tech sector. Sad and poor!

>>106513417
you want dual channel

What the fuck is the difference with all the thermalright AIOs? Their website is absolutely dogshit and you can't filter by anything. If there's some sort of premium tiering, it's fucking beyond me.

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>>106513693
It's fundementally the same, be it 5$ or 5T$,
>Inventing is expensive
Yes, this does however not give the inventor, or anybody, a monopoly right. Ideas are not scarce goods once they have been thought and you can't ethically claim something that you are unaware of.
Artifical stimuli like IP are actively detrimental in their monopolistic effects and illegitimate in their ethics.
You have no right over someone else's thoughts, AMD making a 9080 chip does not make Intel engineers forget how to make the 8080 or mean AMD has stolen 8080s from the factory production line.

I wonder if the Nvidia supers coming out will fix the pins melting on the 5080's and 5090's along with the missing ROPs

>>106514194
mental illness

>>106514200
Eh both the ROPs and the pins are pretty simple fixes. Better QC and switching to a not retarded pin setup and boom.

Probably the wrong place to ask, but I have an old motherboard that is like a narrow Micro-ATX form factor.
It is approximately 9.6 inches tall x 6.7 inches wide.
So it's as tall as a normal MicroATX board, but only as wide as an ITX board.
The mounting screw holes all align with MicroATX.

I remember researching when I bought it years ago, and found it was sort of a subset of MicroATX that was used by a fair amount of companies.
Does anyone know what this form factor might be called, or know where I can find info on it?

>>106514091
It's just different fans and wheather or not there is a screen.
Higher priced ones just have a better screen and/or better fans. Other differences would need a review.
Don't overpay for a thermalright AIO unless you really like the looks of it

>>106514093
>It's fundementally the same
No, it's not.
Patented ideas need to meet the legal requirements of novelty and non-obviousness. The know-how to lighting a fire fails that.
And as stated before, there is no monopoly. Big tech businesses would rather make their own solutions than overpay for AMD's AI accelerators.

>>106514322
mini-DTX?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTX_(form_factor)

>>106514473
mini-DTX a cute! Cute!

>>106514358
they're all less than a hundred quid. I don't understand why a cooler needs a screen. nigga the screen is in front of you

>go all the way back to 572.16 just to make sure i'm not crazy
>no stutter on second monitor when playing games with vsync + dlss
>no bsod when moving game to a different monitor
i am tired fellas. why does multi monitor support still suck 2025?

>>106514359
>They have to pass the subjective and arbitrary judgement of a bunch of legal positivists to decide if a given thought is of everyone else is the property of a or not
That's even worse, it's even more abusable than supposing IP ad infinitum.
The monopolist can simply bribe, convince and pil-pul his way to enforcing IP when it suits him and not enforcing it when it doesn't.

>>106514521
it's nvidia's ai slop drivers

>>106513704
how much air do you think will be getting through in those little weeny side vents at the front?
get another case anon

>>106513666
You're right satan but corpo worship has replaced religion in the modern world and we could never blaspheme our God by using his ideas without permission.

>>106514009
>sader
dumb amerinigger, lick your owner's feet *pushes feet in your nigger face*

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>>106514473
>>106514492
Its not MiniDTX, as that is 8.0" x 6.7" and only has 2 expansion slots.
My board has 4x expansion slots.

Its advertised as MicroATX, but Im quite certain I was reading about this years ago and heard it had some other name that was used by a few different companies.

Anyway heres a pic. I think its a really cool form factor.

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>>106513099
Acer are on my personal blacklist so i'll never recommend them, if you're buying a 1080poverty monitor just buy a second-hand one because they're all lame.

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>>106514521
lol, ultrawides win yet again.

>>106514774
I am genuinely considering one next time I get new monitors. I thought getting multiple monitors of the same brand would fix the issue, but it didn't. One big monitor seems like the play.

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>>106514791
TVs won the single monitor solution game, if they are not eye killing that is (more on that at a later date to be independently verified by me)

the more monitors you add, the more problems you add, always has been, on nvidia it seems, amd allegedly has had better multimonitor support

maybe I should take the 55" pill after all