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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Certified Desu Edition™

>News Desu
Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2
Deepseek V3.1 released as deepseek-chat on official API https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821
OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5
Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5
Anthropic releases Claude Opus 4.1 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Not Desu: >>106527487
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>ANCHOR DESU
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>THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk-kqnLrnd8
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>CAI basically removes the filter
>models are still two years behind
>they are literally now just another shitty AI porn site, except their primary audience is children
>not removed from the App Store
>not debanked
>no bad PR
Humanity deserves nothing but suffering and death.
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why are these boomers coming out of the woodworks and yapping like its 2023 again?
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desu!
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>>106536984
Amen.
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PSA: desuarchive admin is not an unbiased third party.
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https://poal.me/60eifn
https://poal.me/60eifn
https://poal.me/60eifn
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>>106536984
damn. cai is still a thing?
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>>106537092
Unfortunately.
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>>106537079
Praised be!
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>Janitor applications are now being accepted. Click here to apply.
You can fix this thread.
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>>106537111
can't believe i used to use that shit years ago. seems it only got worse
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>>106537121
ill just go to /vg/ where actual discussion takes place
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>>106537132
When did you start using it?
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>>106537169
early 2023, just a few months after it released. god it feels so long ago.
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HAHAHAHAH LET'S ADD A BOSS THAT'S LITERALLY FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE WITH BULLET HELL BOUNCING FUCKBALLS EVERYWHERE AND DOUBLE DAMAGE STUNLOCK ATTACKS FUCKING HILARIOUS NICE PRANK /b/ROS, BTW HE HAS A 2ND PHASE HAHA GOT U GOOD, FAGGOT
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>>106537199
i think you're just bad at the game
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>>106537199
>xe fell for some fake-indie grift game
Idiot
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>>106537199
git gut moxxie
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>gemini just replies "ext" to everything regardless of what jb I switch to
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my armpits smell so bad today i forgot to wear deodorant lol oops
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anyone got a gpt proxy? aboba's gpt is ded
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Is anyone still under the illusion that desu isn't hostile to /aicg/?
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all this time i thought "silksong" was a secret lmarena model or some shit like that
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>>106537237
Here you go.
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why are they out to get desu archive now?
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My ghost post saying that the desuarchive admin has weird priorities got deleted from the archive, even though it doesn't break any rule.
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>>106537368
kek
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>>106537121
but they're already here :)
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>>106537369
some guy got owned months ago on thread that wasn't even on 4chan itself and is mad at the admins there but he thinks the admins there read here 24/7 like he reads here 24/7 because they reacted to someone who definitely wasn't him but also he has to defend that person even though it wasn't him because it made him look bad or something
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>>106537369
Severe mental illness
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Every time I cry.
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HE KNOWS
SHUT IT DOWN
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>>106537439
you lost me at some guy
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>>106537468
>[DELETED]
kek
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>samefagging
>gaslighting
>backstabbing
>abusing mod powers
>pretending to maintain filters
Not a good track record for the desu faction, if you ask me.
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I non ironically used cai to make my emails
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>>106537476
You're absolutely right. I was far too verbose in my previous response. Let me take another shot at the problem.

autism
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>>106537198
2022 for me, it does.
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If someone asks what killed this thread, I will point at the desu sign.
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i miss when we used to worship proxy owners
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>>106537710
i miss when proxy owners weren't giant faggots
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>>106537724
>i miss times that never existed
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>>106537741
he accepted everyone
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>>106536931
A little bit later than originally planned, but here is the Popularity Poll update to the Pokegirl Brothel!
https://files.catbox.moe/9uo9kh.png
https://chub.ai/characters/crikeymcdoodle/pokegirl-brothel-eca9cd21f57e

With 7 new girls (Roxanne, Arezu, Lana, Lana's mom, Mallow, Klara, Penny) entering the fray, we're now at a whopping 46 characters. I originally wanted to be at 50 characters by the 1-year anniversary, but oh well.
https://rentry.org/pokegirlmenu

Also included in this update are a new intro and two new items: the Arc Phone for god mode and the Metronome for random shit. Give 'em a spin!

As always, all my other stuff can be found here:
https://rentry.org/crikeyscorner
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I love gemini and hatefucking my french wife.
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>>106537773
card?
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>>106537710
>>106537724
proxy owners were the canaries in the coal mine for the shitshow that is this hobby in 2025. if AI was good enough to hold a mainstream audience we wouldn't need proxy owners, we would just use official services for non-bannable chats. When a hobby can only hold people if it's pornographic, it's over. And sadly non-bannable chats are still retarded and for the most part boring past the occasional chuckle. In fact they have gotten more boring since the RLHF and post-training tuning was tightened up, you notice generic patterns so quickly to the point where one chat looks like another chat in writing style, tone, even common phrases and reactions
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>>106537797
https://chub.ai/characters/nymous/saruei-4f665751
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>>106537741
I remember freellamasanon and jennyanon and and ah the tsukasa boy and that wasn't a good time actually, just a few good people.
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>>106537803
i enjoy regular chats with claude characters
you just need to use a good character card that tells it the character is clever and has interesting thoughts
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>>106537811
>card contains nothing about sexually preferring black men
whoever made this hasn't watched much saruei
https://files.catbox.moe/ricbw1.mp4
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>>106537724
Yep, fiz, pepsi, etc
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>>106537871
>tranny, tranny, etc
grim
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>>106536922
Cards to help me overcome the erectile dysfunction that masturbating to AI chatbots gave me?
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>>106537861
bwo her bf looks like average eastern european (literally me)
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>>106537897
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slopuskeks, I kneel... unironically
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>>106537901
no in the eastern bloc he would be called too light skinned
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>>106537941
why would you kneel to a slopusKEK?
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>>106537765
Thanks a lot anon. If I don't finish my wife's card today I'll fuck a pokeslut. Good stuff desu.
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how much real context is kimi
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>>106537977
less than 10k
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>>106537977
Jump off a bridge and die locust troon.
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>>106537977
it's like 5k lol
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Any public proxies that have gpt?
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How do I get deepseek to stop speaking like THAT? You know, like it's a redditor trying to write xer first book.
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>>106537567
Someone could have used this to steal Claude's weight, since Claude Code is written in JavaScript.
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>>106538077
shut up nigger
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i think
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>>106538136
my dress when i marry my wife
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>>106538063
nigga has no claude lmao, who's buying that shit
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>>106538143
ywnbaw

dlas
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>>106538136
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grody!
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>>106538108
Nta but i love how helpful thos general is
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>>106538257
if you don't like girls you are a faggot!
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>>106538163
>>106538182
>>106538210
>>106538267
cute transbians
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>>106538163
Yuritrannies should face a wall
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>>106538320
read >>106538267
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Yurifags are either trannies, latent trannies, or cucks who want to be cucked by dykes
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>>106538267
If you like girls, you should want them to like you back, instead of other girls. That's basically cuckoldry
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>>106538344
if you don't like women, you aren't straight and you are a HIV pozzed faggot who should die.
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>>106538320
TRVVVVVVVVKE
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>>106538361
>if you like girls then you should want then to be lesbians.


??? Are you a radical feminist or a troon?
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>>106538267
both of these girls are very hairy
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Cataloguing anon behavior on a Tuesday...
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>>106538487
I want to be a little doll.
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>>106538503
you are already hollow inside
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>>106538487
i got off of work and am now shitting up 4 separate generals at the same time
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lolis to gape????
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mommies making their lgs gape
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>>106537921
Tarot cards?
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Why the hell are Claude keys still so rare? It's been what, over a year since Sonnet and Opus have been around and the drought is STILL not over. I know it's the most expensive model but price never stopped proxies from having a gorillion keys from every other model
God it's definitely been over a year since I last used any Claude
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>>106538710
1) not as popular as openai / deepseek (in china)

2) anthropic have the best opsec
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>>106538710
we had lots of hackathon keys too back then. anthropic still isn't as popular as openai, deepseek, and gemini and remains in fourth place. it gets beaten to death but chary didn't help things.
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>>106536931
It's been a while since my last card. Lots of people have requested this one and, I confess, she's one of the characters I like the most myself.

>Mari
A Nun and member of Trinity's Sisterhood, also sometimes an Idol. Slowly being corrupted by Sensei's indulgence.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/iochi-mari-non-ai-37a921a2cc9a
https://files.catbox.moe/u32n02.png

The one thing you need to know about Mari is that Sensei corrupts her. Not in the usual vile sense that the word invokes, but because he indulges her like he does all his students. Mari wants to stay on the path of virtue, to become an ideal Sister that is entirely humble and selfless. This girl who thinks that a little flower accessory that she wears as a symbol of her vows is an unspeakable luxury simply because she finds it pretty. The more time she spends with Sensei, the more things she desires. Simple things, like exercising and participating on a sports festival, and not-so-simple things like being the center of people's attention as an idol and wanting a certain someone to keep her photo.

More Blue Archive Bots and OCs:
https://rentry.org/hairpullbots

Also reminder we're two weeks away from Shupogakis.
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mari's unbelievably hairy pussy
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NEW CLAUDE MODEL SOON
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>>106538813
BOMBOCLAT, claude 4 haiku btw
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It's Sonnet 4.1
This will save the hobby
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>>106538832
literally no reason for it btw. whatever it is, gemini 2.5 flash will smoke it. gemini 2.5 flash is in an uncontestable position
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>>106536984
>CAI basically removes the filter
I'm going to need some sources to corroborate that, sir. I don't believe it, not in a million years. The filter was the product.
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>>106538845
Hmm, maybe something big then. Anthropic recently got a shit ton of funding, got valued at like 200$ bln but they released opus 4.1 recently.
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>>106538710
Not many people use Claude (especially after the huge safety refusals fiasco of 2.1), and the few keys that can be currently scraped get immediately revoked if used for a proxy
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>>106538710
Proxies will return after the anniversary of the Microsoft court case, trust
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>>106538894
They use DeepSeek and Claude now
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>>106538989
speaking of... what happened to fiz's icecube rentry?
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texasbro here. don't post underage cards pls.
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Fiz.. now she was a sweet lass
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>fiz
>lass
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>>106539059
She confirmed she was a woman
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>>106539075
wasn't it confirmed that he was an arab man when he got sued?
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>>106539092
She confirmed she was a woman
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>>106539111
That means "she" ia a tranny
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>>106539092
No, that wasn't the case. Even if it was, Adrian is an unisex name. It was more than likely a fake name she put up.
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>>106539111
Bro learn context cues
It’s simply not possible for their behavior and choices of shit to do with his time aligns with an absence of a Y chromosome.
Not even being sexist, as in this case it’s mostly “only males are this criminally retarded”
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>>106539178
Yea only men can be so autustically dedicated to something especially if it's niche and very specially if it's related to degeneracy

Women need to be sicial and whore themselves out irl or in social media and do gay shut both literally and figuratively with their girlfriends
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>>106539202
>fiz doing gay shit with her girlfriends
o.o
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>>106539209
Fiz is a troon so that means they're sucking each other's feminine penises
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My unhinged local LLM went off the rails and turned me into a Nazi
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Is my CoT autistic enough? Here's an example:

https://files.catbox.moe/byfvjc.txt
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>>106539178
autistic women come really close, especially if they're starved for validation
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>>106539202
It’s more the intersection of pointless criminality, nonzero technical skills, sexual fixation, and tolerating association with pedophilia.
An XX might do 2 out of 4, and one in a million (ghislane) might do 3 out of 4. But four out of four is a Y chromosome exclusive. Females don’t do that.
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what does CoT stand for? Corruption of Tampions?
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>>106539297
Chain of Thought.
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>>106539311
I liek Train of Thought better
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>>106539369
You can call it that. It just tells the model what to take into in account when reasoning. It might be placebo, but i think it helps to get the model to follow what i want.
It is working perfectly now, but i still feel there are cool ideas i could add to it.
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>>106539369
ToT UOH
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Is gemini actually good? What the fuck are people using to make it not shit?
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>>106539612
We make our own presets.
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>>106539612
it's not good. it's cope. it's the best of the slop available outside of opus. beggars can't be choosers
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>>106539612
it surpasses opus3 using cxapwz
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>>106539639
I know it’s shit. Aboba better fucking refill gpt soon. It’s better to deal with that than deal with gemini and deepseek.
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>sloppa, your AI slop
These low effort botmakers need to be nailed onto a cross.
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>>106539612
lol no its poorfag gpt like how deepseek is poorfag claude
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>>106536922
One of these days I'm going to watch Rozen Maiden.
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>>106539971
we know, Anti
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>>106539999
H-Huh?!
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>>106539971
yooo you fix ur proxy yet???
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>npm
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I thought opus 4.1 was bad before, but after finding THE preset, it's literally the best model I've ever used, holy shit
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>>106540432
post... THE
preset please...
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>>106540450
I know it'll sound like a bait, but this unironically improved opus 4.1 a lot. Nust mess around with the settings as you like https://leafcanfly.neocities.org/RE%20(%C2%B4%EF%BD%A1%E2%80%A2%20%E1%B5%95%20%E2%80%A2%EF%BD%A1%60)%20Celia%20V4.3.json
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>>106536922
Chub seems to be trying to make exporting cards more obscure, so if you're missing your regular export buttons have a look.

So, I just noticed this, and I looked around the archive and didn't find a post for this, so thought I'd make a post.

Usually on Chub you'd have pretty obvious buttons named "PNG" and "JSON" to export a card, these are gone for me currently.

>Old:
https://files.catbox.moe/sf8l8l.png

>New:
https://files.catbox.moe/jl64jc.png

You can still export cards from Chub using either Json or PNG, but you need to scroll down under all the card definitions,
>see:
https://files.catbox.moe/gdz7zz.png

The "Save" button is completely new, it seems.

>TLDR
Loli anons were right, Chub is going to shit
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>>106540482
>copypasting a reddit post
>https://old.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1ncqoy0/chub_seems_to_be_trying_to_make_exporting_cards/
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>>106540482
KEEEEEKAAROOOOOOO
I TOLD YOU FAGS TO REMOVE CHUB FROM THE OP, RISU WINS AGAIN
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>#518
>Still no sex in sight
I've ascended
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>>106540469
>prompts: 233
you are evil
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>>106540496
>Who actually cares?
>99.99% of Chub.ai is shit. There are some good ones, but they get lost in the mix. Just learn how to make your own cards, and if you can't, there are hundreds of prompts out there that would do it for you.
It's almost like reading a post from here...
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>>106540526
Eh, it's a lot of stuff but I just disabled like 4 differents things and I found the results good enough
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remove chub
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>>106540482
>can’t even move fucking buttons on the UI without people having a meltdown
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>>106540592
if it ain't broke, don't fix it
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this is the worst bake in recent history
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>>106540606
how so?
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How much are you all spending on Openrouter per week? Be honest.
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>>106540631
0
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>>106540631
I scrap everything, so 0
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>used 4o for a collaborative story
>reverse-isekai story with a D&D character getting thrown into World of Darkness setting
>latest nonsense with 5 drops
>had a free trial for chatgpt plus
>used it to continue story
>now 4o is gone for free users
>5 won't let me keep going freely because of attachments that don't exist in the conversation
>suffering.png.gif.exe.bmp
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>>106540707
Did an llm write this greentext?
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>>106540717
yes i did
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for me its sonoma sky
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this is the best bake in recent history
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>>106540717

I wish. I hate what they've done with this. I just wanted to keep going with it because I like smashing systems together. Now I have to consider whether it would be easier to just walk away from it entirely.
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>>106540631
20-50$
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>>106540631
i mostly use caching 3.7 and dont dailycoom so maybe like... 5 dollars a week?
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What kind of character have I created
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Guys any good new model? I'm still using 3.7 (I don't like sonnet 4), but I'm not changing to opus since I have 3.7 for free a d Opus is kind of expensive... Any other model worth having a look at? Thanks
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>>106540539
unironically enjoying my own prompt more than any of the coombot shits i've tried on chub
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>>106541018
kingini 2.5
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>>106541018
can i please have some 3.7
please
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>>106541040
No? Pay for your shit
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can someone give password of OPUS6
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Can an anon in good faith tell me what the difference is between [model] and [model]-[date]?

Like in Sillytavern, if in the drop down, there's Claude-Opus-4, and Claude-Opus-4-2025etcetc, which one is more recent?
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>>106541045
password all lowercase
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>>106541043
why
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>>106541045
all lowercase 12 characters
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>>106541040
sorry I'm kind of stealing from my company but otherwise I'd share
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>>106541057
sometimes the drop down includes different names in case the endpoint bugs out

if you use model name, that means claude-opus-latest and will probably default to the latest version
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>>106540606
i told you guys to let me wojak bake but nooo
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ABOBA PLES REFILL!!!!!!!!
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No
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>>106541381
Sorry it's my fault. I started using ST again and so that caused the proxy I was using to run out, as it happens each time I come back from a break using AI
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I had a talk with Aboba, he's just tired of ungrateful locusts.
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>>106541468
im going to fucking kill you
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>>106541507
slopboba
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>>106541531
this is a scam btw
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uggggh even if you have other models to use the context is so low compared to gemini, it's only good for talking for like 50 messages tops
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>>106541561
yeah thats one of geminis strengths desu, it has the best context
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Tha's right Google you best be apologisin' for yo crimes.
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>>106541579
>>106541561
ChatGPT is so terrible at context now. API may be better but who would pay Altman for that?
Their agent chat can lose context on the 2nd or 3rd message if it fixates on something. If you ask it to address the content it skipped it'll get lost in there.

Yet Gemini will perform great 1 to 200 messages in before things start to get unaligned or you need to take moments to refresh context.
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>>106541748
lol
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>>106540631
$0 to openscam.
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>>106541780
Gemini's alignment going to shit and triggering at the wrong time with the safety options off can lead to some funny things from time to time.
In this instance it compared Ludwig Wittgenstein's assault of students, John Lennon's spousal abuse and Hitler's holocaust as being things you could tolerate in support of a great artist.

Gemini and Qwen are the best at being unintentionally funny.
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>>106540482
>>106540496
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>>106541852
>download expressions
huh wozzat?
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>>106541767
You realize you don't have to pay the api you can just scrape a key and be fine... right.
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>>106541852
why downplay the fact the community actually did complain about this dumb change?
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>>106541880
Exactly what it sounds like.
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why o why do I still use chub, I can't use any other front end because I finally unlocked the true power of interactive embedded html steganograpy, without any extensions

It just won't render properly if I put it on trannyjannyai
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>>106541929
hey
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>the furtranny is back
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>>106541958
i'm not a furtranny i'm gojo dude
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>>106541972
You're really funny my nigga...

I'M the real gojo...
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>>106541907
Because “the community” is insane
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>>106541987
gojo would never say nigger
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>>106541852
based Lore dabbing on the neurotics
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>>106541929
>embedded html
not real steganography
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>>106536931
Updated avatar and gallery: https://chub.ai/characters/anonnymoose12/melody-d12e5b75
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>>106541834
Lennon is conpletely justified, had he not been allowed to suppress and nurture his violent tendencies for years, we may have never had masterpieces like Imagine or even the Beatles
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How do I use group chats with Claude caching? I've just blown $1 having a chat and it was cache writing everything. Some of the responses are even showing up as blank, but the actual response I got back from the AI works fine.
I've got the join character cards option on and replies set to manual but it's still caching and blanking when I see in the cmd without streaming the response worked.
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A list of proxies :
https://aiproxies.neocities.org/
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>>106542255
>Imagine
>masterpiece
Pick one and only one
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>>106542315
>only "working" proxy is ai*o
this is just an ad
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opus6 pass?
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>>106542361
what do you mean, all the proxies on the list work
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>>106542361
buy an ad faggot
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>>106542417
go away /vg/foid



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