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God dammit I just can't get Halo to work properly on my laptop
>Intel HD Graphics 405
>Wine is running Halo with software rendering for some reason and runs at below 1FPS
>GPU is too old for DXVK; Halo won't even launch if I have it enabled
>setting d3d9 DLL override to "native" makes Halo fail to launch with the error "We are sorry, but you need to have DirectX 9.0b installed to run this program."
>Mesa deprecated Gallium so I can't use ninewine
>I actually hunted down old d3d9adapter.so files and put them in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/GL/lib/d3d/ and /usr/lib/d3d, to no avail
>If I use Bottles or download an older Wine build from the Chaotic AUR, OpenGL works properly and the game has a decent framerate, but crashes a few seconds after loading any map
Wtf do I do
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>>106572104
>setting d3d9 DLL override to "native" makes Halo fail to launch with the error "We are sorry, but you need to have DirectX 9.0b installed to run this program."
This is despite the fact Halo automatically installs DX9. I installed DX9 manually from Microsoft's website and I still got the same error.
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>>106572104
>add the exe as a non steam game or to any launcher
>set PROTON_USE_WINED3D=1 in the launch options
That should force OpenGL, also this might work
>You force Halo to use a difference rendering code path by adding an argument to its command line. The arguments are -use20, -use14, -use11 and -useff. For example, to force Halo to run in PS1.4 mode, you would launch Halo by typing: “halo.exe -use14”.
https://halo.bungie.org/misc/halopcperformancefaq.html
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I don't think my credit card application is going to get accepted :(. No new parts for me :( :( :(.
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I asked this months ago, but does anyone know of a way to get reshade to work well cross platform? I have a game installed currently, and it always gives me loops when loading shaders.
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>>106572233
Debit card then? Payment processors don't give a shit what the card is as long as they can drain it.
Check with your bank for the availability of virtual cards, too:
https://www.paypal.com/us/money-hub/article/virtual-credit-card-numbers
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Since BTRFS has no encryption would then EXT4 be better for a offline backup that is encrypted?
but what about a live backup? also encrypted, ext4 seems to win there too, and while BTRFS is neat it still lacks native encryption.
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>>106572264
you encrypt the partition, not the filesystem.
As for offline backup, it doesn't really matter, you can get integrity protection on partition level as well as the encryption anyway.
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>>106572264
>for a offline backup
It doesn't matter what filesystem it is if you're using a proper backup solution like Borg.
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>>106572264
buy a self-encrypting drive.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Self-encrypting_drives
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware-based_full_disk_encryption
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>>106572345
now that is bullshit
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>>106572264
Native encryption should only be needed if you're on a multi-user system otherwise you'll always be better off encrypting the partition with LUKS
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i am now the proud owner of an acer brand pentium powered netbook. it folds all the way backwards and has a touchscreen. which DE is the best at letting me pretend i'm using a tablet?
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>>106570210
Its trying to write to a file that it has no write permissions for. You can copy the .desktop file to ~/.local/share/applications and make your changes there
This is one of many reasons why system flatpak is shit and flatpaks should always be installed with --user
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>>106572205
>That should force OpenGL
Nah sorry, still getting the "We are sorry, but you need to have DirectX 9.0b installed to run this program." error
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whats a good file sharing solution over LAN/Wifi to dump all my phone pictures and videos onto my PC so i can free up space on my phone?
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>>106572060
saar eating cow meat bad ok saar sacred deity saar
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>>106572543
Localsend
You can also use primitive ftpd to run an ftp/sftp server on your phone
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>>106572550
>run an ftp/sftp server on your phone
can i do that without root?
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>>106572554
Yeah with an app on fdroid called primitive ftpd
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>>106572104
>>106572116
>>106572539
winetricks ddr=opengl
and
winetricks renderer=gl
don't do anything either
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>>106572104
Have you installed directx9 through winetricks?
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>>106572599
Not through winetricks but I did install DX9 from Microsoft's website
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>>106572622
Not sure if it matters but maybe try through winetricks?
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>>106572263
He's applying for a credit card because he doesn't have money.
Even if you do have money and are responsible they still deny them half of the time now anyway. Despite having healthy savings and being responsible with money I can't get a credit card either.
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>>106572060
>beef again
OBSESSED TROON
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>>106572543
What you do is you plug your phone into your PC via USB and copy and paste them all from your file manager. You don't need LAN/Wifi to do this.
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what's a good replacement to honeyviewer on linux to read manga/doujins?
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Should I be using uv2nix?
GPT tells me I can package my shit in a simple fashion like this:
{
...
packages.${system}.default = pkgs.stdenv.mkDerivation {
pname = "myproj";
version = "0.1.0";
src = ./.;

nativeBuildInputs = [ pkgs.python3 pkgs.makeWrapper ];
buildInputs = [ pkgs.uv ];

buildPhase = ''
uv sync --frozen --no-install-project --python=$(which python3)
'';

installPhase = ''
mkdir -p $out/bin
# Install your package into $out with uv
uv pip install --no-deps --target=$out/lib/myproj .
# Create a launcher in $out/bin
makeWrapper ${pkgs.python3.interpreter} $out/bin/myproj \
--set PYTHONPATH "$out/lib/myproj"
'';
};
};
}


So if that's right, what's the point of uv2nix? The setup looks mighty complicated. What exactly is the selling point of these 2nix solutions? Save disk space on my machine?

>>106572104
why not just use a VM?
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>>106572550
>localsend
works like a charm after i opened my ports on LM
>>106572728
not an option. The pins are shorted on my phone's USB type C port and my computer shuts off when i connect it
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how do i make the "welcome to grub2" screen the same size as the grub bootloader menu? it's blurry. bootloader menu is normal screen size ala 1980 1060 or something
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>>106573098
How do you charge the thing? Are you only able to use wireless charging? Sounds annoying. Your computer also shouldn't shut off just because you plugged a USB in. I'd investigate why that's happening if I were you. Maybe you're shorting something out?
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>>106573133
it doesnt have wireless charging, i can just plug in to a charger and hope nothing blows up, i just cant plug it to a computer or laptop
>I'd investigate why that's happening if I were you. Maybe you're shorting something out?
because my phone got wet once
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>>106573142
>because my phone got wet once
that might have fried your phone, but that should not in any way cause your pc to shut off
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>>106572959
>why not just use a VM?
Comfortably playing Halo through a VM on a shitty laptop + Intel HD Graphics? Good luck.
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>>106572104
>GPU is too old for DXVK
Gallium nine is the only option. You have to use an older distro that still supports it.
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>>106573196
its a waterproof rugged phone but the charger still got damage
desu i assumed it had already dried off and plugged it to charge it in my car which may have shorted it for good
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for either ZFS or BTRFS on a drive just for torrenting, will pre-allocating still trigger some fuckery with CoW and fragmentation?
XFS is apparently also recommended
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>>106573313
Only for torrenting? You might as well go with XFS, you obviously don't need the benefits of ZFS or BTRFS here since Bittorrent checksums all data anyway.
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What the fuck is going on at red hat
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Why did Pango switch to using GraphicsMagick instead of the more popular ImageMagick in the pango-view tool?

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pango/-/merge_requests/472

No explanation and the first comment from a developer, "I can't say I've ever heard of a 'gm' command". Me neither. I just reverted this in /etc/portage/patches on my Gentoo system.
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>>106573381
the weird part is that he just merged it anyway. Apparently, he didn't even check if that might break something.
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>>106573407
I mean it's a minor tool and I could just install GraphicsMagick but I don't really want or need more than one tool. It would be better to check for both.

I don't debug fonts often though. I doubt anyone else even noticed.
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>>106573313
You should turn off COW and pre-allocating for torrents.
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Anyone use fuzzel? im trying to change the colors and converting hex colors to RGBA but fuzzel keeps complaining when i converted #dddddd to 221221221ff as being an invalid color
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I have a xfce desktop environment that sometimes I want to use with only a keyboard.
My two issues are
>I don't know how to move windows with just a keyboard
>navigating most applications is possible by tabbing, but tedious
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>>106573606
Go use a tiling window manager like i3 or Sway. You can turn on mouse keys which makes your keyboard emulate a mouse using its numpad though if you really want a mouse-focused environment like XFCE.
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On Plasma can I make the alt shortcuts on dialog boxes ALWAYS work without having to hold down Alt, like on Windows? When I close a problem on Windows and it asks me if I want to save before quitting, I can just press N instead of Alt+N.
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>>106573710
when I close a program*
fuck I'm sleepy
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>>106573340
What should have already have happened a long time ago. They're IBM now and now IBM is saying to them "Why the fuck haven't we merged all of you people into us sooner?":
https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/08/red_hatters_to_be_big/

Also, they may sack some of them for "efficiency savings" in order to de-duplicate job roles that are fulfilled already by somebody else at IBM.
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How many anons switched from DE to tiling WM because of Hyprland and Sway and Wayland generally getting their shit together?
I'm on Sway, it is really nice.
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>>106574276
Probably not that many, anons were on tiling before wayland already.
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i'm trying to install cisco packet tracer on arch hyprland and it shows the error: required script modules. i llooked up how to fix it and it says ptracer uses certain 32bit programs so i downloaded qt5-webkit from aur. it still doesn't work. could a kind anon tell me what i'm missing?
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>>106574318
Did you try to install packet tracer from the aur ? Last time I tried it I didn't have issues I believe, but the installer from their website doesn't work
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How much performance loss should i expect with proton for like dark souls 3 compared to windows?
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>>106574566
Last I saw the original release of Elden Ring that ran kinda dooky on Windows actually ran better through proton-ge-custom, so take that as you will.
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I have a bit of a problem with bluetooth on my system journalctl shows:
Sep 12 20:43:40 jyuware dbus-broker[1296]: A security policy denied :1.5 to send method call /midi/profile:org.bluez.GattProfile1.Release to:1.31.
Sep 12 20:43:40 jyuware systemd[1]: Stopped target Bluetooth Support.
Sep 12 20:43:40 jyuware waybar[2113]: [2025-09-12 20:43:40.329] [warning] no bluetooth controller found
Sep 12 20:43:40 jyuware waybar[2113]: [2025-09-12 20:43:40.362] [warning] no bluetooth controller found
Sep 12 20:43:40 jyuware waybar[2113]: [2025-09-12 20:43:40.375] [warning] no bluetooth controller found


I don't know what else to do with this as searching for similar cases brings up red hat threads locked behind a paywall
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>>106574276
Niri is nice, but I really want to try bspwm
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>>106572527
Xfce i guess?
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>>106573313
Pre-allocating doesn't work on either. This is a situation where you want your client to have separate incoming and complete directories, with the incoming directory NoCOW. Or just use XFS like other Anon said. Since your client already has data checksums for everything anyway.
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>>106574318
>installing anything from cisco
bro?
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>>106574486
thank you!!!! omg, yea aur worked, but just had to download the .deb file from the website and put into .cache/yay/packettracer

>>106574782
iknow :( its for a class
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>>106573313
I've been torrenting (5k+ torrents) to a Btrfs RAID (CoW enabled as all the FS features depend on it) for a couple of years now, can't say I have noticed anything wrong with it. I've had the pre allocation feature in my client disabled all this time.
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>>106574893
Which client do you use?
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>>106574973
qBittorrent
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>>106574592
>
no bluetooth controller found

Does your system have Bluetooth? If it does you're lacking a driver or firmware for it.

If you're on a distro like Arch and just updated the kernel then you might also have to reboot because of the unique why they manage kernels (they essentially pull the rug out from underneath you, leaving no remnants of the old kernel in place so you have to reboot into the new kernel)
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are trixie nvidia drivers really that bad?
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>>106574318
Does Cisco support Arch (by the way)? Maybe just run Distrobox with a supported distro and try to get it working that way (assuming it can run in a container)
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>>106574893
Run filefrag -e on any file or a few MB and see how bad your fragmentation is.
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>>106574997
>Are NVIDIA drivers that bad?
The answer is always yes and it's nothing to do with Debian.
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>>106575016
According to https://github.com/kdave/btrfsmaintenance#defrag fragmentation isn't even that much of an issue except for specialised workloads like databases. They have a defragmentation task for RPM databases but even there they concede that it's not likely to make much of a difference as the files quickly get fragmented again anyway.
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>>106575043
Also for a RAID like they're using then I think fragmentation would be even less of an issue again as random access is better because you can access your data on any N number of disks.
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how do i install mpv on my wii
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Distrohopped to Debian cause I couldn't stand breaking shit on Cachy. Only problem I have are mesa drivers being outdated, is there a way to keep them updated without potentially breaking the system?
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>>106575043
>specialised workloads like databases
Torrents and crypto nodes fall into this group as well. Anything that does random blockwise updates on files is going to have problems with fragmentation.

>>106575062
Yeah, a sufficiently large RAID will hide the problem, but for single disk you'll notice if you try to multitask on the filesystem or have a decent connection.
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>>106575112
>is there a way to keep them updated without potentially breaking the system?
don't use a stable distro
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>>106572060
I'm going to install void on my stinkpad after not using linux for few years
full disk encrypted even
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>>106574976
Should i switch to it from transmission or torrent client doesnt really matter?
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>>106575112
Newer versions of mesa will eventually get backported
You might be able to get away with running steam and wine through flatpak as they will have their own versions of mesa shipped with the flatpak
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>>106575216
All torrent clients work the exact same way
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>>106575156
Void is full of mentally ill devs
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>>106572060
Should I download spotify from flatpak(unofficial) or AUR?
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>>106575290
For what it's worth the unofficial Flatpak gets it's source from the official Snap package. I really don't know why Spotify doesn't also maintain a Flatpak.
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>>106575228
Does transmission have a built in web ui?
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>>106575418
It does, yes, in fact many people run it that way instead of as a desktop app.
QBittorrent also has a webui though although I don't have much experience with that.
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is there any advantage to migrate from arch to cachyos? considering I can just download the cachy kernel.
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>>106575688
If all you care about is the kernel, not really. I also use the CachyOS kernel on my Gentoo system. I don't really care about any of their other patched packages.

For an Arch user specifically though, then you might benefit from some of their optimised packages instead of Arch's generic packages:
https://wiki.cachyos.org/features/optimized_repos/
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>>106575464
QBT is much better than transmission in terms of UI and client features. I still use transmission because I wrote a bunch of scripts for it, and it feels like QBT is due for some kind of security reckoning because of how retarded the devs are and how overwhelmingly popular it is.

If I was starting from scratch I'd use bigly.
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I use https://github.com/darktrojan/openwith to send URLs to yt-dlp.

How I could I transform this in a permanent queue (with concurrency control, resume)? With linux utils or straightforward tools, easy to inspect e.g not something like sqlite
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>>106575231
huh
what is the chud no-systemd distro nowadays?
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unshare -r -n stops sublime text from receiving any keyboard input on ubuntu 24.04. Any fix?
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just installed a new X870E Aorus Elite motherboard that has some Ethernet issues.
The fix is to download and install a Realtek driver from the official website:
https://www.realtek.com/Download/List?cate_id=584
Did that, the problem was fixed, but when I reboot, the problem comes back again.

Fedora 42
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How to get this boot screen as shown in the picrel?
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>>106575922
use knoppix
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>>106575957
very funny anon.... i want to implement this on the distro that I'm currently using, i won't distrohop just to get that badass boot screen.
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>>106576000
>check how knoppix configures this shit
>copy it
>???
>profit!
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>>106575828
if you have to ask then you dont know why you are asking
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>>106574995
Yeah, I replaced the stock one with an Ax210 and I am on Arch, but the crazy thing is that this occurs while plugged in mostly with occasional happenings on battery. I checked and the wiring to the antennas are correct. What's worse is that it recognizes the controller for about 3 seconds, then goes back to no controller available. I've done everything from modify the boot loader to modprobe and use. Nothing works.
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>>106575828
Artix, been eyeing them for a while and that dinit system they have
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let's say I have my PC set up for dual boot, and decide I no longer need the concurrent Windows install. how would I go about formatting the Windows side of the disk and making that memory space available to the Linux side, without having to do a full reinstall of my Linux distro?
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>>106576291
use parted/gparted from inside linux and just delete the Windows partition.
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>>106576363
thanks
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>>106575884
What about with -c instead of -r? Might be an issue with being "root", some programs have special behaviour if they're ran as root.
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If jbd2 constantly writes data to disk every $SECONDS
How could my hard disk get some rest?
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>>106576229
What kernel are you using? Have you tried using the LTS kernel? I heard some Intel Wireless users had problems recently.
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>>106576460
It won't. Hard drives only go to sleep when there's no write activity. If there's constant write activity longer than the period it waits before putting the disk to sleep then it either won't sleep or will just immediately spin back up again.
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>>106576473
The most up to date stable. I thought it was the Intel too but I keep reading recent posts saying they have no issues so I have no idea. I also consider that it might be a Thinkpad issue with A485.
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>>106576484
so should i just give up and buy an ssd then?
i'm trying to lower the power consumption of my laptop that i use for my homeserver.
also I remember some filesystems not doing active journaling like ext4 does, should i switch over to something more suitable for my setup?
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>>106576568
fs journaling doesn't matter you just want to change journald to volatile storage so the system doesn't write it's logs to disk
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>>106576591
I'm confused now.. so jdb2 on iotop indicates overall system log write and not just filesystem/metadata?
I only see jdb2, no systemd-journald or anything related to that.
will using volatile as storage for journald reduce disk write by a lot? or is there a way to what makes these calls to jdb2?
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>>106573710
>like on Windows?
What you described only works on Win32 standard dialogs. Everything else is up to the application.
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>>106576831
ext4 isn't going to write the metadata log if there's nothing being written to the disk in the first place. you'll have to look at what processes are actually writing on iotop. if nothing is writing then idk what the problem is, you should also have noatime set for a mount parameter.
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>>106570998
There are different ways to kill a program. When you do just "kill" it will do a SIGINT, which will ask the program to exit. You need to do SIGKILL to force kill it. An easy way to do it on x11 is to run the "xkill" program and click on the program (window) that you want to kill.
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Do other distros have stats like this for DEs?
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>>106572060
Is flathub repo down for anyone else?
>https://flathub.org/repo/flathub
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>>106576421
it works, ty!
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>>106575918
Wait for them to update to kernel 6.17 or later and stop buying Realtek shit
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>>106577748
>stop buying Realtek shit
Sorry can't hear you over your dropped link.
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>>106577819
Ironically, Realtek is the one that drops out the most because they never put enough hardware network queues in their hardware and size buffers too small.

For a motherboard though, you're lucky to find something without on-board Realtek unfortunately. At least you can usually find premium boards with dual-Ethernet, one of which is usually an Intel, etc.
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>>106577197
Nope
https://flathub.org/en/setup/Ubuntu
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>>106577848
>because they never put enough hardware network queues in their hardware and size buffers too small.
That can't cause drop outs, it just means less efficient CPU use and slightly lower peak bandwidth. If the controller is busy the CPU will just have to wait until it isn't to write the next frame.
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>>106577981
Not can, it will. Realtek only designs their hardware the way they do because it's designed to be cheap and affordable to motherboard manufacturers that are looking to save a few cents here and there (it all adds up to them with the volume they sell)
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so, what's a good music program to organzie my stuff, foobar?
bonus would be to send stuff to my phone

though I do plan to get one of those I-pod like dedicated music players soon
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>>106578008
Okay buddy, enjoy your amazing 4 queues and 95% reliability.
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Is ArchLinux a good choice for servers?
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>>106578122
If you only use the base system and run everything else off containers/virtual machines then it's okay.
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>>106578122
it's a fine choice if you know what you're doing.
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>>106578122
What kind of server?
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>>106578405
for serving a simple flask website
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>>106578116
You know you have more reliability with more queues, right? You can have less drop-outs because you can buffer more packets at a time and let the kernel do multi-threading when it's processing the packets. It's not just more CPU efficient, it's more efficient period. You can even assign a dedicated hardware queue to a specific workload, so all packets end up in that dedicated queue whilst others go to the other queues.
Realtek cheaps out on their hardware when memory shouldn't even cost that much. If you have faster speeds than 1-gigabit (which many of Realtek's NICs are nowadays) then it's kind of important to have lots of queues.
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>>106578485
>You know you have more reliability with more queues, right?
More queues just means slightly less CPU time waiting for the controller/PHY to flush frames down the wire. Less delays, more peak throughput. And as far as I know, Realtek NICs have 2 queues, so it's not even that big of a difference.
You drank the REALTEKBAD kool-aid, I get it. For the rest of us it's fine, and after the i225-V and 13th gen disasters Intel can go eat shit.
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bwos i killed my drives :(
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>>106576516
I'm still confused on this, not even LTS kernel helps. May just have to wait for a new version of the kernel
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>>106578548
2 queues might be fine if you have a dual-core CPU. That's pretty pathetic compared to some of the competition though. I think I read some of their newer designs have 4 queues but even that is still pretty low compared to the competition.

I have two Realtek NICs and both only have a single queue. Some of their older designs are really crap. One of them also requires an out-of-tree kernel driver because the retards didn't upstream 5-gigabit support to the in-kernel driver.
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>>106578570
Hey buddy the leather club's two blocks down.
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>>106578740
i did this by dualbooting cachy
idk what happened, the drives just shat themselves when i rebooted from w10 into cachy
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>>106578750
Did you forget to disable fast boot in Windows?
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>>106578762
i tried to disable it through cmd after it rekt my drives the first time but apparently it didnt stick
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is there a good consolidated learning resource for how to build software from source? i'm so used to getting everything from package managers. i'm just confused about where to do the building, where to keep the compiled binaries, how to keep track of it all, that sort of thing.
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>>106579084
arch wiki probably has a guide
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>>106579094
arch wiki will tell you to use their tools like the abs and makepkg
>>106579084
Linux from scratch
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>want to get into Linux
>read about a given Linux filesystem
>look it up in the /g/ archives to learn more about it
>every single one at some point has been called a shitty file-corrupting meme that only retards would dare to use
>similar case with various distros all allegedly being shit and buggy and not worth using
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>>106579296
just fucking pick one
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>>106579296
real men use arch
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>>106578570
please stop fucking using NTFS partitions on linux
both NTFS drivers in linux are not good enough
NTFS is a propietary windows exclusive filesystem
just dont do it
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>>106579296
>retards blame software for hardware fuckups
Tale as old as time. Pick a major distro and use it. Assume dysfunction is a problem on your end until you find the root cause.
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>>106579457
So what do you do if you already have NTFS drives with a bunch of valuable data on them and want to make the switch to Linux?
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>>106579462
What's the actual best filesystem to go with when given the choice?
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>>106579488
Either btrfs or xfs depending on how fast storage is relative to CPU
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>>106579457
im not going to format my drives
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>>106579457
skill issue
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>>106579481
I reckon using something like gparted and an external SSD to transfer back/forth files to a newly partitioned drive.
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Trying to get this old machine to play videos with no dropped frames and no tearing. So far, I can't play 1080p webms in mpv without tearing. Goofed around with mpv.conf, goofed around with nvidia drivers, still no dice.
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>>106580189
u sure you got all the drivers? my laptop is even shittier and i can watch 1080p streams on twitch and 1440p video on youtube
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>>106579481
Just copy it, or mount as read only and then copy it. The NTFS support is good enough to get the data off NTFS drives, but not fit for long term use.
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>>106580224
I may not have the right drivers. Whenever I play a webm in mpv, I see no GPU usage in System Monitor. Here's my current mpv config.
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>>106580319
yeah idk
you'll figure it out, i believe in you
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>>106579644
>>106580280
I saw that there's a btrfs driver for Windows, is it worth looking into formatting a blank external or two as btrfs and then moving from the NTFS drives to those prior to installing Linux?
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Hello. i'm new to this shit and I just installed a 4tb hdd after formatting I see this shit.

Is this normal, 200gb?
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>>106580786
forgot pic
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>>106580791>>106580786

In the drive I see this "pic" I can't do anything to it.
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>>106580791
That's Mint isn't it?
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>>106580865
yes
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I want to rice but the job forces me to run Ubuntu 22.04
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>>106580884
Yeah that might be Mint's rsync snapshots eating up your drive. Snapshots on Linux are like System Restore points except they're meant to be extremely space-efficient....except on Mint where they've now taken up 200GB of space lol. Mint is just not good these days, sorry. The best thing you can do now is install a different distro.
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Pardon me being paranoic anons, but can my ISP do a man the middle attack if I'm doing an update? We all know that when you do an update on Linux you send a DNS request to the repositories of your distribution, what IF my ISP intercepts it through their DNS by sending a false repository with compromised packages and use them to spy on me?
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>>106580938
Forget about individual packages, because instead of doing that they could've just pointed you towards a bugged .iso and totally compromised your system from the start. It'd be a lot cheaper and easier to maintain such a scheme, too.
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>>106577867
Yeah it's working again. Must have been some maintenance issue. Thanks anon.
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>>106580938
In Arch Linux, packages are signed by the maintainers, so you can be sure it's fine no matter where you downloaded it from.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Pacman/Package_signing

I imagine it's the same in other distros.
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>>106580791
all the inodes for the drive get preallocated, it can add up to quite a bit on huge drives with standard settings.
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>>106580953
I know how to change my DNS on Firefox, which is what I did before installing a Linux iso, the checksum even matched, the problem is that I'm too retarded to make my whole system use a different DNS other than the DNS from my ISP.
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>>106580938
>>106580999
>DNS
Even if your DNS is correct they can still route you whereever they want.
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>>106574276
Switched from KDE to Hyprland, and yeah I like it here better.
I actually wanted to try xfce+i3 but my monitor just doesn't work on high refresh rate using X11
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>>106580992
If that's the case, then I guess I don't need to worry about that anymore.
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>>106580791
>>106580804
>>106580865
>>106580884
>>106580911
Ultramarine, CachyOS, and EndeavourOS are good distros with very minimal setup; certainly less setup than Mint. They also give you Plasma Desktop, which is WAY better at providing a Windows-style GUI than Mint's Cinnamon Desktop.
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>>106581118
I feel like when it comes to a Linux journey you start off with Ubuntu based shit like Mint or Fedora, then after you're a bit more comfortable you graduate to Arch (or Gentoo down the line).
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>>106581134
Traditionally maybe, but modern Linux is so streamlined that if you want to eventually use a certain distro, you should just start with it. Mint's purpose as a "training wheels" OS is redundant and only makes newcomers fuck off from Linux for good when they get told it's meant to be the "easy one" or "the one for Windows users" and still have massive issues with it.
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>>106581118
What's the use case for CachyOS over EndeavourOS?
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>>106581164
CachyOS is more focused on kernel tweaks/additions while Endeavour is vanllia Arch with a handheld install.
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>>106581134
And then you have enough of crashes eventually and go back to Ubuntu or Debian, because you have other shit to do than babysit your OS constantly.
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>>106581164
It has placebo performance improvements, but more importantly it has automatic btrfs snapshots before transactions.
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>>106581164
CachyOS gives you packages that are compiled with modern cpu instructions.
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Stupid question incoming:

If I have a multi-boot machine with Debian; Mint; and Windows 10 installed (Win being the first installed and Debian the last), but want to transfer the Debian instance over to another machine (same architecture), is it a relatively simple process?
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>>106581315
Are you asking if you can put your drive on another computer and boot into Debian? The answer is yes.
Not sure why you're multibooting Debian with Mint though, that's kind of like multibooting Windows 10 with Windows 11.
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Hey, I'm trying to install Linux from a bootable USB but it shows me grub rescue (sometimes with an "unknown filesystem" error) and I can't do shit when it's supposed to be a noob friendly graphical installer. I tried multiple different distros and it's the same shit. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
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>>106581330
Try disabling secure boot in your bios
If that doesn't work, try another USB stick
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>>106581330
Did you select the live environment? Does the distro in question support a live environment? Which distros?
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>>106581315
you'd be missing the bootloader, but that's easy to fix.
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>>106581325
No, I meant keep the drive on the old machine and just move Debian to a new one but if just switching the whole drive over will work I'll just do that then. Thanks for the tip.

I started with Mint because I'm a noob and then tried Debian KDE and decided I prefer it.
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>>106581354
Cool, just install/update GRUB?
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>>106581315
Spare yourself the trouble and do a full disk clone then nuke the windows and mint partitions.
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>>106581367
that probably would be enough. I usually just do fresh installs and transfer the data though
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>>106581349
Pretty sure it's disabled but I'll check later. I already tried multiple USBs.
>>106581353
I just tried "Artix community" and I tried Ubuntu before
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>>106573313
preallocation is pointless on a CoW filesystem. since the point of preallocation is to allocate all the space in one go, for the purpose of getting minimally-fragmented space, then overwriting that space with the data being downloaded. CoW by it's very nature will never directly overwrite the space logically being written to, so the preallocated space simply goes unused like you never made it in the first place. it's literally a waste of time and writes (if ssd)
if you want to torrent and avoid fragmentation, set up an on-complete command in your torrent client to trigger a defrag, or alternatively flag the downloads folder as nocow and use preallocation as you would on a non-cow filesystem (btrfs supports this, haven't checked zfs)
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>>106573861
>ibm has owned red hat since 2019
oh. it all makes sense now
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>>106576000
the tux logo is actually a built-in linux (kernel) feature, just have to enable it at build time. you get one tux per cpu (core)
i should enable it on my 24-thread gentoo box, lol.
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>>106581381
>>106581388
Thanks for the help guys. Gives me a few options to try.
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>>106576291
>>106576410
if you do it from a livecd, you can also resize/move the remaining partitions to use the space. some filesystems like btrfs can be resized while they're mounted as well (no need for a livecd)
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>>106579296
>every single one at some point has been called a shitty file-corrupting meme that only retards would dare to use
including ntfs, don't forget. shit doesn't even have checksums nor data journaling
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>>106579481
https://github.com/maharmstone/ntfs2btrfs
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>>106581485
Didn't it get removed?
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>>106581749
not according to git master
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is gnu guix suitable for gaming (steam+nvidia) ?
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>>106581164
cachyos claims to be optimized for the latest ryzen cpus but the benchmarks show literally no advantage over vanilla Archlinux or fedora, opensuse, ... lmao.
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>>106581943
what benchmarks?
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If ubuntu pro is free, why don't they just give me the "security updates" by default?
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>>106582003
because it's not free
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>>106581943
https://www.phoronix.com/review/framework-13-amd-linux-2025/9

>Out of more than 100 benchmarks carried out on the Framework Laptop 13 powered by the AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, racking up the most first place finishes was... Debian Testing, for what will become Debian 13.0 later in the year. Debian 13 Testing was in first place for about half the runs. CachyOS meanwhile was in first place 20% of the time and Clear Linux with first place finishes 15% of the time.

and when it come to gaming, the advantages are none because games come with pre-compiled binaries by the game developer anyway.
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>update my mint as always and restart
>it hangs on boot screen and doesn't show any errors
Classic. So much for "it just works"! I haven't got time for this shit bro. I lost count the amount of times a distro just bricked itself after a random update. Why is linux so unstable?
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>>106582036
winning the battles but losing the war
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>>106582064
clear linux is dead btw

https://community.clearlinux.org/t/all-good-things-come-to-an-end-shutting-down-clear-linux-os/10716
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>>106582078
I know, but that wasn't the point.
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im trying to use xdotool to macro in bloons tower defence. i can start a battle and click the options button in game but i cant click on the side to select what tower i want to place
the game knows the difference between a macro click and an actual click basically, is there a way around it?
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>>106582051
This is just an issue with LTS distros like Ubuntu LTS (which Mint is based on) and Debian. Especially if they're mutable.

Next time use an immutable distro like Aurora/Bazzite or Kinoite/Silverblue.
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>>106582093
you may perform very well in a few tests but then sucks for the rest. for a normal user, general cases matter more than specific ones.
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>>106582106
benchmarks never test general cases that matter for users.
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>>106582051
Do you have an Nvidia GPU? My Mint almost always shits itself when upgrading Nvidia drivers.
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>>106582096
wait nevermind i found a workaround
>xdotool mousedown 1
>xdotool sleep 0.1
>xdotool mouseup 1
and it thinks its a real click
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>>106582120
a suite of them does. You may then picks the ones in your interests. Here >>106582036, debian is performing much better with blender3d (cpu rendering) which is surprising; Those cachyos kernel "optimizations" must do more wrong than good.
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once bcash gets R5/6 stable, the Year of the Linux Desktop will begin
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>>106582191
considering the other distros also don't have those optimiations it must be something else.
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Do I have brain damage or is there no easy way to actually get an overview of disk usage in Nautilus/Gnome Files?

So far I've had to open up the Disk Usage Analyzer to get the information which seems insane to me.
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>>106582392
On Dolphin I just right click the drive and click "Properties" like on Windows.
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>>106582392
>Gnome
Self-inflicted.
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>>106582392
The imaginary gnome target audience doesn't know what disk usage is
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Has anyone here experienced the steam workshop dropdown menu not working on XFCE before and if so is there a proper fix I can do? I switched to XFCE just over a week ago because Cinnamon and KDE both gave me problems that made no sense, and now this is the only major hiccup I'm having here. On EndeavourOS and update weekly (just updated 8 hours ago) so my packages are quite up to date
>Already tried talking to LLMs so no it's not the easy solutions like disabling GPU accel or toggling a setting within steam
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>>106582398
That works I suppose, but it would be nice to be able to see an overview of all disks without having to go to a different program. Like a small bar underneath the drives or home folder in the side bar, or at the very least an overview similar to "This PC" on Windows.

>>106582407
Thinking about doing a fresh install with KDE when Fedora 43 releases. While I've never been a huge fan of KDE either, Gnome is starting to get on my nerves. Extensions help a lot but it's annoying having to fight just to use the workflows I prefer.
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>>106582191
>debian is performing much better with blender3d (cpu rendering) which is surprising; Those cachyos kernel "optimizations" must do more wrong than good.
Raw CPU throughput is less important for a desktop system. Latency and general responsiveness under load (CachyOS uses the Bore scheduler).

So yes, if you're building a CPU rendering cluster then maybe Debian is a good choice. What that benchmark doesn't tell you though is how the system performs while multitasking.
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>mint 21.3 xfce
>if I download an image while its destination folder is open in my file manager, then there is a risk of the image's thumbnail being generated before the file has finished downloading (particularly with larger images that take more time to download)
>when this happens, the thumbnail is incomplete, with the remainder just being empty grey (the extent of which depends on how complete the download was at the time)
>the only remedy I've found is to go to home/.cache/thumbnails/normal/, locate the corresponding thumbnail (sorting by date modified and finding one with the same date/time as the full image), and deleting it so that a new one has to be generated from the now complete image
>there's a ton of files in that folder to load, so my PC (not exactly the fastest) doesn't particularly enjoy me opening it
Are there any more convenient/less surgical ways to regenerate a thumbnail, like a terminal command I can just point to the full image's location?
>just don't download files with the destination folder open retard
That's my usual method and it works 99% of the time, but not on the 1% where I opened it ages ago and forgot.
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>>106582780
>Are there any more convenient/less surgical ways to regenerate a thumbnail
Using a distro that isn't dog shit
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>>106582810
Desktop you mean. This is almost certainly the desktops fault. It sounds like it isn't waiting for CLOSE_WRITE (if using inotify) or otherwise isn't polling access properly to see if any process has it open.
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I want to install linux on a basic bitch with premium features laptop. It has a ryzen 7840U with an OLED 1800p display. I think there's some framework laptop like that.
What distro would you recommend? I'm not gonna be playing that many games on it (reasonably you can't play a lot of shit there), -however- I might be interested in HDR support still for videos. I might end up using the footfag DE on Wayland because of this + it seems better suited for touchpad usage, but fuck if I know, it's been years (and I don't know how GNOME handles scaling, maybe 2x isn't that bad on 14'' 2880x1800)
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>>106583001
>it seems better suited for touchpad usage
Dunno where you heard that. Plasma on Wayland has touchpad gestures and proper fractional scaling.

Most non-Debian distros will give you pretty much the same experience, so spin a wheel I guess: https://wheelofnames.com/fke-dwk
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Am I gonna be able to upgrade to Debian 14 (when that comes out) without having to sudo nano my apt sources? Like, can I just click a button? Upgrading from 12 to 13 was annoying.
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>>106583265
If your sources point to stable instead of a specific branch name like trixie then yes.

i.e your sources should look like this:

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.source:
Types: deb
# http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20250908T000000Z
URIs: http://deb.debian.org/debian
Suites: stable stable-updates
Components: main
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.pgp

Types: deb
# http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-security/20250908T000000Z
URIs: http://deb.debian.org/debian-security
Suites: stable-security
Components: main
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.pgp


NOT LIKE THIS:
Types: deb
# http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20250908T000000Z
URIs: http://deb.debian.org/debian
Suites: trixie trixie-updates
Components: main
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.pgp

Types: deb
# http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-security/20250908T000000Z
URIs: http://deb.debian.org/debian-security
Suites: trixie-security
Components: main
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.pgp

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>>106583242
Proper... well, there is fractional scaling, GNOME doesn't have it period. I'm not sure about 4k, maybe there it's not noticeable at all, but I have a 1440p display and 125% is just no good with fractional scaling. I get sort of deformed fonts on anything that's not the browser itself (on AMD only too, as for some reason, firefox wayland on nvidia with fractional scaling enabled is a royal mess). On GNOME I just increase the font scaling factor instead which gives me sharp fonts and no issues. Plasma 6 removed the setting unfortunately (there is a way to bring it back, but it breaks some UI elements like the applications menu).
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>>106583302
Does a fresh install of Debian 13 point to the stable branch by default?
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Is there any way to fix mouse jitters on KDE/Wayland? Vibrations from the world are enough to cause my cursor to move 1-2 pixels on my screen and thats enough to trigger events like the progress bar in mpv to pop up.
Almost every software that responds to cursor movements reacts to 1 pixel of movement and its slowly eating away at my sanity
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>>106583323
I don't think so. But you can easily change this yourself:
$ sudo sed -i "s/$(. /etc/os-release;echo $VERSION_CODENAME)/stable/g" /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sources
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>>106583331
You can just position the cursor slightly off the screen
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>>106583363
So are there any non-immutable distros I can recommend to women? They want codecs, an app store, and updates.
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>>106583409
>Real women?
Give them an immutable. They'll feel more comfortable when you take control away from them.
>Trannies?
Doesn't matter. They're still men, they'll figure this out.
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>>106583417
But I don't want them to complain about slow app startups (aka Flatpaks)
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>>106583425
Then tell the bitch to get cooking while she waits for LibreOffice to open.
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I just realized that my Bluetooth issues could be related to plasma and their blue devil package. Had it once before, I wonder if this is similar
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>>106583407
My cursor cant move outside of the screen unfortunately
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>>106583409
People who want things to work use Ubuntu.
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>>106583477
Ubuntu is shit
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>>106583462
Then I guess the best thing you could probably do is make a global keyboard shortcut to disable the mouse but I'm not sure how you'd do that.
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My Pixel just updated and it's now looking like KDE. Guess I'll have to take the Konqipill for UI consistency among devices.
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>>106583488
Said the jobless loser lol
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>>106583501
Pray tell, what works about Ubuntu not even having Btrfs? Oh no, your computer bricked and you can't roll back to when it actually worked, oh well.
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>>106583309
I use 135% fractional scaling on Plasma and fonts look great on my screen
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>>106583510
Bricked devices rarely happens in Ubuntu. But You're aware that other backup solutions do exist, right? Just set up one of BackInTime, Pika Backup, Deja Dup or Timeshift and secure your ~ data. Which you should do regularly regardless of file system.
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>>106583510
That's a right of passage.
It's funny that they've had experimental ZFS support for a while now but still haven't really done anything with it (no boot environments or snapshots?)
>>106583546
Rarely doesn't mean never. Even Microsoft Windows has some basic rolling back of updates built-in to it and that's hardly a good OS.
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>>106583546
All your backup/snapshot options on ext4 are dog shit as proven by this: >>106580791
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>>106583560
>Backups use space
Uhm..... What the fuck??? This is an outrage!!!
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>>106583489
Well, i guess that beats trying to set up some weird custom resolution thats a few pixels wider than my screen
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>>106583590
Yeah and Btrfs snapshots would use a fraction of that. You know ext4 is shit when even fucking Windows has more efficient snapshotting, and NTFS is worthless.
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>>106583601
Don't care, I'm not a spacelet lmao. I use proven and stable things, not experimental junk.
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>>106583613
God you sound like a Mac user. If you hate optimisation so much, why don't just install Windows 11? Btrfs has also been the standard for years btw, so it's hardly "experimental junk".
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>>106583627
Until it's the standard in Ubuntu, the most widely used distribution, it's just a side bitch.
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>>106583613
>btrfs
>experimental
i've been using it for everything since 2014. back then i would have called it experimental. but now? you need to be careful not to fall into the trap of hearing something bad and just recalling that for over a decade, not realising that hasn't been true in a long time
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>>106579481
Best but by far most expensive solution is to move all your data to a NAS.
Then you can use whatever OS you like and always have access to your data with zero risk of your OS fucking anything up.

I did this because I want to dual boot and I've read Windows has a tendency mess up Linux partitions (but never the other way around).
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>>106583638
windows is the most widely used os. nobody here cares about "most widely used"
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>>106583638
>the most widely used distribution
Rofl. For one thing, Windows is more widely used than Ubuntu, so by your logic, Windows System Restore Points being superior to rsync snapshots automatically has primacy in this conversation and therefore your Ubuntu fanboyism has been cosmically raped with no condom. Secondly, there are hundreds of distributions, so being the most popular among them is not statistically significant. Thirdly, is Ubuntu even the most widely used distribution nowadays? I know the Steam hardware survey is skewed towards gamers, but it's also the most comprehensive survey of which Linux distributions people are using, and Ubuntu has less than half of vanilla Arch's installed base. Fourthly, all of the most popular distributions except for .deb based ones default to Btrfs.
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>>106583697
>Taking Steam surveys as a serious data source
That's an Oof and a LOL from me, dawg
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>>106583708
And what's your data source? Your arse?
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>>106583708
Do you have anything more serious? It's one of the few real-world data-points you can point to. Mozilla probably has telemetry but they don't share Linux distribution statistics and a lot of people turn that off anyway.
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>>106583697
Didn't read but you seem quite angry and mad. How about you calm down a bit and go outside? It's Sunday, go visit church.
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>>106583722
You know, intentional shitposting is still shitposting.
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Waylandsisters, how are we feeling about the latest Niri hypetrain? Are we switching from Hyprland now?
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>>106583769
I will switch when you take my sway/i3 setup from my cold, dead hands!
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>>106580368
Just played one of my test webms in VLC, no tearing in VLC. That one was 1080 24fps. Tried a 1080 60fps, and it too had no tearing in VLC, but occasionally a bit of skippiness.
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>>106583769
Thanks, but I'm sticking to KDE.
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>>106583323
Just confirmed that it does not tune into the Stable branch by default, but the Trixie branch.
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>>106583719
>>106583712
https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux

The top 10 million websites analysis by W3Tech shows Ubuntu clearly in the lead.
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>>106583800
And you think that's a good source?
How does a website detect your Linux distribution when they all show the exact same User-Agent (I think Fedora is an exception that used to modify the User-Agent to include "Fedora" but I'm not sure if they still do that)
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>>106580786
>>106580791
By default ext4 reserves 5% of drive space for something.. i think for root? you can change the default with tune2fs using the -m flag
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>>106583800
Anon, those stats are about which operating system WEBSITES run on. You know, SERVERS. How is this information relevant to desktop users?
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>>106580911
>>106581118
Anti mint schizo is tech illiterate lol
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>>106583844
Maybe. Do we know how accurate >>106580791 is?
If Rsync is used with hard-links (which is the best you can do on ext4) then it's not actually consuming 200 GB of actual disk space because of the multiple copies of the same file all actually referring to the same file on-disk and not being copies but the file manager might still measure them individually.
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>>106572060
In KDE even if I set the option for windows to spawn in the center, some programs like the settings STILL appear at random places, wtf?
>>106582051
Uh, Mintbros, I thought Arch was the one that break during updates??
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>>106583900
This is still really crap and not at all efficient compared to BTRFS or ZFS though but it's not as bad as it looks if the snapshots are done properly with hard-links.
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>>106582051
Mint sucks.
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>>106583900
Its the default 5% reserved space by ext4 causing the 200gb disk usage. Has nothing to do with backups or rsync or whatever that retarded anti-mint schizo was sperging out over. And its not his main disk otherwise he wouldn't have censored out the mountpoint location.
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>>106583933
Ah, that makes sense. I thought he was actually using it for snapshots given everything he's spewing.
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>>106583933
>hurhur i'm not a spacelet 200gb is totally fine
>UM AKSHULLY IT'S NOT EVEN 200GB
First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no way out, they themselves simply played stupid.
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>>106583945
As he showed in >>106580804 The drive is completely empty
>>106583957
What the fuck are you screeching about now?
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>>106583697
Eh, Steam Hardware Survey has a few issues.

For one, point release distros (Ubuntu, Fedora, Debain, Bazzite) are split into version numbers. While rolling release distros (Arch, Manjaro, Endeavour, Cachy) are consolidated into a single entry point. This skews the total numbers in favor of rolling release distros. Sure, most people will probably run the latest version, but seeing how PopOS and Zorin are 3 years out of date and yet PopOS still shows up in the top 10 it's safe to assume that there's plenty of people still using stuff like Debian 11/12, Ubuntu 20/22, Mint 21, etc.
The second problem is that some distros are also separated between their DEs. As you can see, Fedora KDE and Fedora GNOME are treated as two separate entries. Meanwhile Arch+KDE and Arch+GNOME are consolidated into a single entry (just like Manjaro, Cachy, Endeavour).
And finally, the problem of the "22% Other" (or 35% once you exclude SteamOS, Flatpak and Snap). This is a significant chunk of distros.

Some distros and package managers have their own statistics. For example, Universal Blue uses the rpm-ostree counter from Fedora Atomic:
https://github.com/ublue-os/countme/blob/main/growth_global.svg
OpenSUSE has this:
https://metrics.opensuse.org/d/osrt_access/osrt-access?orgId=1

Regular Fedora apparently counts users too, and their GNOME and KDE editions have around 250k-300k weekly users in total.

We could also use these stats as estimates, but they also have their own issues. For one, most people aren't updating/installing packages more than once a month (so Fedora's counters are likely just half of users). Also, they don't separate desktop, server and IoT users. For example, OpenSUSE is very popular as a server, while Fedora is not really used for servers. Debian/Ubuntu distros are by far the most popular on servers and IoT devices (along with Alpine), so even if they also released their stats we wouldn't know how many actual desktop users there are.
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>>106584139
>For one, point release distros (Ubuntu, Fedora, Debain, Bazzite) are split into version numbers. While rolling release distros (Arch, Manjaro, Endeavour, Cachy) are consolidated into a single entry point.
That's because there is no such thing as an Arch snapshot (technically there is but it's not a real distro, it's just Arch at a single point in time) where as Ubuntu LTS and the latest stable Ubuntu are rightly considered two completely different distributions because they're nothing alike. It wouldn't make sense to consolidate them.

I would hope most Ubuntu desktop users are using the latest version anyway (you want that newer kernel and Mesa graphics stack)
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I think I hate this immutable meme. Gonna go back to Opensuse TW GNOME
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>>106584139
>Debian/Ubuntu distros are by far the most popular on servers and IoT devices (along with Alpine)
Before anyone claims I'm pulling this out of my ass:
https://hub.docker.com/search?sort=pull_count&order=desc
Multiple of the 1B+ Docker image pulls are just Ubuntu or Debian based and just install a handful of packages on top.

>>106584178
>rightly considered two completely different distributions because they're nothing alike
It doesn't make sense to consolidate them for compatibility reasons, but imo it does for the overall statistics. You could also say that my install of Arch, which I only update every 3-6 months, is completely different than yours assuming you update on a weekly basis. So consolidating me with most Arch users wouldn't make sense either.
And the fact still remains that identical distros are pointlessly split between DEs and (if we don't count Flatpak/Snap installations and SteamOS itself) a third of the Linux users are completely hidden. It's just giving an incomplete picture.
(Also, the original point of discussion was to determine if Ubuntu is or has become irrelevant among desktop users, and Ubuntu LTS and Ubuntu non-LTS are still actually Ubuntu)
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>>106581916
Gnu guix ia just linux without "GNU slop" isn't it? I don't get the hate agaisnt GNU, anyways... ..All distros are suitable for gaming if they're using the latest kernel
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>>106584228
the only good immutable distros are the universal blue ones, or fedora at the very least since you can still layer packages on top of them instead of being permanently cucked by immutability
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>>106581916
Not in its default configuration it isn't but it's fine if you're okay with using the nonguix channel.
https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix
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>>106584139
Don't Ubuntu and Mint automatically update to the new versions anyway?
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>>106584286
>Multiple of the 1B+ Docker image pulls are just Ubuntu or Debian based and just install a handful of packages on top.
Not the anon you're replying to and i dont know how relevant this is but ubuntu/debian gets used a lot in docker images because of better compatibility with glibc over alpine with musl.
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>>106584286
>You could also say that my install of Arch, which I only update every 3-6 months, is completely different than yours assuming you update on a weekly basis. So consolidating me with most Arch users wouldn't make sense either.
But it's still Arch. It's not Arch LTS, etc.

Package update frequency could be an interesting statistic to collect though but I can't think of a good way to expose that.
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>>106584349
Of course not. Their version upgrades are explicit because they can break your system, especially if you've added PPAs.
Also, think about it, the whole point of Ubuntu LTS is to have security updates for 5-8 years so that you don't have to upgrade to the next version. Non-LTS versions just become obsolete within 9 months rather than years. But even then, you're not automatically pulled to the next version. At least you weren't back when I used Ubuntu around 3-4 years ago.
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>>106584477
Wait, so to upgrade Mint, you have to sudo nano your apt sources? How is that meant to be the distro for noobs then?
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Why is youtube a bit laggy on firefox (havent tried anything chromium) which i use on opensuse tumbleweed? is it a codec issue? i have the default codecs desu. all mp3, mp4 etc files work just fine.
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>>106584506
You use the updater tools Ubuntu or Mint have built. You yourself have to initiate the distro upgrade but they provide tools for that (both graphical and console).
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>>106584506
>How is that meant to be the distro for noobs then?
It's not. It's a distro for boomers and millennials who will read the documentation or watch youtube tutorials on how to perform an upgrade.
https://linuxmint-user-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/upgrade-to-mint-22.html
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I just spent £150 (that's $150 for you burgers) and 2 afternoons setting up my fedora installation for GPU passthrough and I realise I hate how awkward it is to use. I'm now about to pull the trigger and start using the WINE emulator without a condom.
Is this a common occurrence?
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>>106584595
I skipped the gpu passthrough bullshit entirely and directly went to wine.
You can use it with a condom as well if you prefer that.
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>>106584526
Youtube has small breaks in Firefox sometimes that fix themselves quickish. Just seems like Google being cunts about it.
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>>106584595
>I'm now about to pull the trigger and start using the WINE emulator without a condom.
>Is this a common occurrence?
Very few people use a GPU passthrough. Proton 10 has a pretty good game compatibility and the overall performance loss, if exists, isn't really noticeable in most cases.
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>>106573117
Can you take a video? It's not quite clear what you mean.
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>>106584526
You can use a YouTube frontend called invidious, it's what I use to watch YouTube videos on openSUSE tumbleweed
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forgot to select pipewire in archinstall, do I have to manually activate it now?
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>>106584612
I have heard of bottles and firejail but don't trust their sandboxing capabilities yet. But I'm gonna have to use one of those soon because the software I'm using keep getting bundled with malware.

>>106584616
I'm glad for gamers but I exclusively only play Japanese eroge, which doesn't have Proton support.
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>>106584737
Pipewire's all socket based so no you don't need to enable any services. Just download "pipewire wireplumber pipewire-pulse" and you should be fine.
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>>106584802
Japanese eroge have worked well on linux even before proton was a thing.
Unless you mean VNs, those things are weird and sometimes don't even run properly on windows. But you'd know this already.
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>>106584807
>Pipewire's all socket based so no you don't need to enable any services
I'm way too dumb to understand the significance of how something being socket based affects how it runs as a service. Interesting though.
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>>106584893
It's all automatic
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>>106584802
>I have heard of bottles and firejail but don't trust their sandboxing capabilities yet.
Bottles by default doesn't have permissions to affect your home directory and especially not your system. Any malware would be contained inside it unless a severe security vulnerability is found in flatpak.
You can test this in a VM if you want. Install Bottles, set up a bottle, then within it run some malware which tries to recursively wipe all data from your disk. It should only affect the wine prefix and not any data outside of Bottles.
>I exclusively only play Japanese eroge
>doesn't have Proton support.
Are you sure about that? I've played a bunch of Asian games and all of them work fine in Proton. That said, only as of Proton 10 (which is still in beta) did the video cutscenes start playing normally (prior to it, cutscenes in some JP games were open in a separate window which resulted in a black in-game screen).
If you're talking about VNs, some of them rely exclusively on your system fonts and locale. You can set this up in the Bottles GUI very easily. I have a bottle set up on my main PC which is exclusively made for Asian games. Iirc you have to set your system locale to JP, install the asian fonts package within Bottles Dependencies, and I think there's one more thing I installed but I can't recall if it's optional or not. In any case, you can ask ChatGPT to help you set it up, that's what I did and things work great.
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>xorg
>can change the external brightness settings through the nvidia panel or xrandr(and wrappers)
>wayland
>wlr-randr has no brightness controls and the nvidia panel has that option disabled
whats the way to control this in wayland? there's wl-gammactl but it fucks with the settings globally instead of per screen
>>106584802
i'd suggest you to test bottles, particularly test if you can actually cut the access to the internet for a given program or bottle. I recall this used to crash the games for me so I had to go for firejail, meaning i run
firejail --net=none lutris
and launch things from there. Should be noted that the argument --net=none counts as a profile. I dont make new profiles because im lazy though
So far so good, just keep in mind that new wine prefixes might have symlinks to your home directory in C:\users\(You) and games do not like when they dont have access to Documents, so you gotta remove the symlink and make a real folder in its place
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Did something happen in the kernel driver or mesa for power limits on 9070s?
My non XT (220W TBP) had a +10% limit of 245W (3W higher than windows). But now I can take it up to 269W.
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How accessible is Linux to the average person, really? Like, I dunno, grandma level? Let's assume they were given a computer with Linux and maybe Wine preinstalled.

I've heard someone say that there are people who if they have to use the terminal, then forget it. How likely is that really?
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>>106585159
Mint is the "grandma" Linux as of right now, though overall it's still less simple then just installing Windows for her.
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>>106585193
Mint is the "grandma" Linux 10 years ago
>>106585159
Anything with Plasma is going to be more streamlined than Windows. Genuinely just plug and play.
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>>106585159
My grandma was using Fedora for web browsing just fine. I was taking care of major release upgrades for her, though.
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>>106585159
Its a very "it depends" question. A grandma wont install any new software ever, nor update its pre existing software, thus it easily fits in their use case. A god damn facebook machine.
Most of the headaches come from looking at workarounds to run windows software, though valve's been working on that.
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>>106581485
Damn that's pretty soulful. Sadly I have never seen it in any distro I've used.
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>>106585199
KDE spin btw.
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>>106584857
Sorry, I should have said eroge have worked fine with wine before Proton was a thing.
As for some games not working, yeah. There are some that will not work properly even after spending hours trying to fix them. There's one that only works on windows with access to a real GPU.

>>106584930
It was bad wording on my part about Proton. I meant to say the stuff I run doesn't need Proton's fixes and works fine on normal wine.

You know what, I am actually gonna try infecting my VMs with wanacryptor to see if it breaks sandboxing. That's a good suggestion to finally shake off some of my paranoia.
I'll give bottles a go too. It seems simpler to use after the initial setup.

>>106585048
Yeah, I'll give bottles a go.
Fair point about new wine prefixes. I'd probably make a new one and forget to remove symlinks for that one.
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>>106585159
Assuming things like Flatpaks are pre-configured out-of-the box and they can get everything they need from Flathub in GNOME Software or KDE Discover, then no terminal is needed anywhere.
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>>106585048
>new wine prefixes might have symlinks to your home directory in C:\users\(You)
This is actually not the case for Bottles, since it's flatpak doesn't have access to your /home by default. So when a wine prefix is created, no links are made.

>brightness controls
The KDE ones work fine for me. I'm not sure how standardized DDC/CI is, but it could be that wayland or whatever compositor/wm you use doesn't support your screen's brightness control interface.

>>106585159
It really depends on the distro and DE. For example, anything that's immutable has historically been very accessible. Although, up until a couple of years ago, immutable distros were pretty much only used on gaming handhelds (not talking about SteamDeck specifically, but the ARM chinkhelds running stuff like Rocknix, Android and similar).
An "accessible" distro in my mind would be something that's well set up out of the box, kept reasonably up to date and is immutable (as it's less likely to break after major upgrades). Aurora and Bazzite perfectly match this imo.
For Wine you can just install Bottles. It's basically equivalent to running a console emulator. (Bazzite comes with Lutris pre-installed, but I honestly find it more complex)
Alternatively, if you're setting up a distro for your grandma (or whoever) yourself, then you can also consider anything that doesn't change very often. Mint, for example, only gets a major update every 2 years and it's DEs don't visually change much if at all aside from small color changes in the themes. Cinnamon, MATE and Xfce pretty much look identical now as they did 8 years ago. Although KDE and GNOME have recently slowed down the visual changes too, so I'd still consider them a better option.
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>>106585390
>The KDE ones work fine for me. I'm not sure how standardized DDC/CI is, but it could be that wayland or whatever compositor/wm you use doesn't support your screen's brightness control interface.
It is the standard, pretty much every monitor supports it nowadays.

KDE also implements a software brightness control for displays without support for hardware control though, so probably you should go bug your compositor developer to expose similar functionality.
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>>106585425
>>106585048
Also, if you want to test if your display supports DDC/CI then there is ddccontrol:
https://github.com/ddccontrol/ddccontrol

It comes with gddcontrol which is a little GUI that lets you configure all of your monitors settings.
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>>106585336
>I am actually gonna try infecting my VMs with wanacryptor to see if it breaks sandboxing
Keep in mind that Wine isn't sandboxed by default, if you install the system package. Something like Wannacry can still infect your system, at least it was the case a decade ago when people tested it. I'm pretty sure executables can break out of the wine prefix into your /home even if there's no link to your /home in the Wine prefix. And I'm not sure this was ever "fixed" because the whole point of having a system-wide Wine install is to seamlessly run windows software and actually giving it access to your /home and even in some cases your system.

Bottles, on the other hand, is running Wine within a flatpak sandbox. It should be significantly more isolated from your system compared to a default system-wide Wine installation.
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some update apparently fixed some awful glitch that caused the wallpaper to be partially displayed over active windows when you scrolled up/down on my external screen, wayland+nvidia
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>>106585479
I'll try using firejail too but it looks like bottles is probably what I'll eventually end up going with. Just fewer things to fuck up on my end.
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>>106585458
Invalid display
I2C bus: /dev/i2c-25
DRM_connector: card0-HDMI-A-1

>This monitor does not support DDC/CI. (I2C slave address x37 is unresponsive.)
Welp. I'm using sway(wlroots) so its kinda barebones in what it can do.
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>>106585479
Yeah this is correct. Security isn't a concern to WINE. WINE apps will always have a full access to your filesystem unless you use an external app to restrict it.
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>>106586047
Wine apps that use standard windows paths won't.
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>>106585479
Wine by default maps / to the Z: drive. I think dosbox also does the same thing.
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>>106586069
When dealing with malware or potential malware you shouldn't rely on just removing the drive letter mount points. The drive letters are fake anyway, the real mount points which are identified by the volume GUIDs are hidden from the user.
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>night light unavailable
>this could be result of graphics driver or desktop being used remotely
this is a nvidia thing isn't it?
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>>106586164
Last time I created a prefix it didn't. It also didn't mount shit from my homedir, which is nice

>>106586178
in most cases you're not dealing with malware
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>>106586185
Possibly. You got the driver for nvidia? Could always try out redshift, depending on the distro
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>>106586185
Wouldn't be the first time.



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