>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

Luv my 5070

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There hasnt been and will never be a graphics card as sexy as this...

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XG27ACS discounted to $219 in US Amazon ($30 above all-time low).
Sold/Shipped by Amazon.

>>106593369
>1440
sorry bro I need my pixels

>>106593369
for $50 more you can get a 300hz panel instead of 180hz
https://us.ktcplay.com/products/27-inch-300hz-vertical-gaming-monitor

Anons, I need help choosing an AM5 motherboard. It's for a workstation, I need lots of USB ports. LiveMixer is not widely available what are my other options, Gigabyte or MSI are preferable if possible because support is better for those brands in my country. I just need shitton of USB ports. I'd even buy a B650M HDV/M.2 if I can put humongous amounts of usb ports, I don't need a GPU btw. This workstation needs compute for building and usb ports for testing.

>>106593369
180HZ is so last gen, you get 240Hz for the same price from Acer or Viewsonic. If it says A(sus), just beware, its like women with tats.

>>106593277
Can you mod more VRAM to it?

>>106593666
just buy a used 4070TiSuper at that point, it's basically a 16GB 5070 without 3x/4x framegen

>>106593672
It's roughly the same price as a 5070 Ti

>>106593684
Wait 3-9 months for the alleged 18GB super to come out, be in stock, and fall to a reasonable price?

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>>106593146
is it worth it to upgrade gpu for am3+ (fx)
or is better buy some modern igpu

i am okay with 1080p and 60 fps btw

>>106593699
Im using a 1060, which would be a security weak point by then. I can't buy a 5060 Ti because the banking jew doesn't make installements on the cash price
>Abolish IP
Let me use a RX 9060 XT with Cuda cores jensen you monopolistic fuck

>>106593540
ProFart X870E has loads of them
It's pretty pricey though

>>106593540
usb hub
pcie usb card

>>106593715
You can probably 1080p60 with lowered settings and upscaling in lots of recent games on a newer Ryzen APU

>>106593715
If you only play games from 15 years ago, sure. Time to throw away your PC and buy a new one if you have any hope of playing newer games, though.

>>106593146
I decided to buy a 5060 ti 16gb but which brand should I buy? Are there any drastic differences that justifies paying a considerably higher price for the same card?

>>106593146
I've heard miniLED monitors are a lot better than edgeLEDs, is that true? Last time I bought a monitor was like 7 years ago. It seems there aren't many options to buy these in europe though as far as I could see.
>KTC M27P6
Definitely can't seem to find this one anywhere. All I want is a good 27in, 120hz+, 4K monitor, not really for gaming but productivity and media.

Literally post moon landing colonies exist why does NASA say we haven't made contact yet? It's more likely they sent us here not the former.

I got the Borderland 4 bundle with my GPU. How do I sell it? Is it locked to my GPU serial?

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Looking to upgrade, wondering if I should just get a new GPU or do a full rebuild. The Mobo, ram, and CPU I got maybe 2-3 years ago, but the gpu is starting to get pretty old. Would be for gaming, but I play a lot of paradox/total war/strategy games, so CPU is more important than for someone who is only playing like call of duty or whatever.

I'm in the US and budget isn't really a concern, just looking for most bang for the buck. Leaning towards rtx 5080, 90 seems like the diminishing returns are just a bit too high.

>>106594097
Looks fine, maybe tighten your ram timings if you're bored.

>>106594097
I'd just upgrade your GPU and monitor to something more than 60Hz

>>106594097
the only cpu upgrade you have is the 9800x3d and the max uplift is like 40% in ideal scenario
better off with a gpu upgrade

>>106594123
Yeah. Work paid for the monitors otherwise I would have gotten a better refresh rate, but honestly as long as it's stable I don't mind capping at 60. Problem I'm having now is I'm trying to play sea of thieves and even at 1080p I'm dropping down to 42fps pretty regularly. I'll upgrade the GPU now and look at getting some better monitors maybe next year. Are there any brands that make a particularly good rtx 5080?

Also, is there anything in particular I should be doing to help run the dual monitors where one is the main gaming monitor and the other is pretty much just for discord or YouTube videos?

>>106594176
Just turn on DLSS bro.

>>106594195
SoT doesn't have it

>>106594176
what resolution are you targeting? for 60fps 1080/1440p, a 5080 is overkill outside of modern slops, even a 70 non-ti is good enough

>>106593540
MSI X670e gaming plus, usb ports out of the arse on that one. £180 on Amazon, which is strangely its only UK vendor.

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5070 non Ti and 5060 Ti 16 GB
>Same price
Which one?
Obviously the 5070 is a better chip but
>VRAM
What do?

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good or no
is 7800x3d outdated?
or should i wait little more for 11800x3d maybe

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>>106594295
As long as this is 1440p or lower still the 5070, next-gen consoles are still a few years off so lowest common denominator VRAM targets won't really increase much until then. What's your current GPU? If you can hold off for the 5070 Super beginning of next year might be worth it.

I have a 2 cm gap between 5070Ti exhaust fans and a PSU cage. Is it safe, or it will fuck my PSU or GPU in the long run?

>>106593920
it makes you download some software that scans your pc to make sure you actually own the gpu and then it gives you a steam code

>>106593751
>Time to throw away your PC and buy a new one
rude

>>106593744
I just checked charts and APUs perform worse rx580

>>106594320
>>106594320
It's $110 difference, you're already buying an essentially top of the line pc, spend a little bit more and get the very best possible. Life's too short

>>106594320
0. What's your current system?
1. Are you in the US?
2. If yes to #1, do you live near a MicroCenter?
3. What's your budget?
4. What monitor do you have or want to get?
5. Is this build mostly for gaming?

Only things worth waiting on right now are Black Friday sales in mid-November (yes they start that early) and the 5070 Super early next year for the extra VRAM and slight increase in performance from the bump in shaders.

>>106594365
>APUs perform worse rx580
"Ryzen AI" APUs should be on roughly a GTX 1660 to GTX 1070 level.

>>106594350
Everytime I see MLID console leaks I get irrationally angry.
That nig claimed the ps5 was going to be faster than a 2080ti

>>106594295
They're the same price? Then no question the 5070

>>106594350
NTA but my plan is to ride my 5070 setup until first first proper PS6 exclusives start coming out (no PS5 crossplatform), then upgrade GPU to whatever the latest Nvidia gen is.

>>106594236
I like to future proo. 1440/60 for now but will probably be upgrading monitors eventually.

Are off-brand/white label OLED monitors a bad idea?

>>106594640
No, one of the great things about OLED as an emissive display is that the underlying panels are already 90% from LG & Samsung's factory and there is little variation in performance between whoever rebadging them unlike with LCDs where the overdrive tuning can make a huge difference. CRTs were the same way.

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Has anyone seen or used anything from this company called "manli"? I think this gpu design is neat, but ive genuinely never heard of this company before.

>>106594906
they mostly only sell their wares to china/taiwan afaik

>>106594906
They make the Manliest GPUs.

>>106594921
So similar to yeston then?

>>106594906
it's all Nvidia under the hood, buy the cheapest you can find
I got a fucking Inno3D even though all my previous GPUs had been from reputable brands like Gigabyte, MSI and ASUS

>>106594966
Yeah
More specifically, manli is one of the subrbrands of Pc Partner which owns other GPU brands like inno3d and colorful

The only GPU brand which I've ever heard is best avoided is Biostar.

>>106595006
Relax, I'm just talking about the design.
>>106595015
That is quite interesting. I quite like the design, but damn is it fucking expensive to buy right now.

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>>106594350
>1440p
>Using 1060 6GB
>Using CUDA
>Asking for mileage Beyond 2027
Which card is better for my usecase? As a side note 1060 works for most games at medium low 1080p currently and ran anything i threw at it decently besides a few exceptions until a few years ago, can i expect similar performance from these cards?

What has happened with the mainboard market?

Absolute standstill, there are no new AM5 boards, most of the offerings are garbage, the price is stable, high.

>>106595120
gigabyte just launched their x870 refresh lineup with the x3d moniker
the i/o is way better than the original x870 boards

>>106594906
actual cool design, i like it. makes a change from the black/red/silver/RGB vomit that're seemingly the only options these days

>>106595120
>>106595167
and msi just launched their 800 series am5 refresh boards with the Max suffix

>>106594430
Smart Anon.

>>106595092
I still say the 5070.

>>106595177
when are those releasing? and whats the difference between them and the non max version other than not having to update the bios to support newer am5 9000?
the msi mag x870e tomahawk is going for 340usd right now and they are running out of stock in the one store that currently has it available, should I wait or pull the trigger?

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here's your gaming PC faggot

>>106593729
No thanks staying away from gay-sus.

>>106593736
pcie usb cards, I have to test next. USB hubs are a pia.
>>106594266
Uhhh, let me see, I was looking for budget ones.

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Brehs, checkout this build, I'm worried about the Mobo and Case.

related post >>106593540

>>106595330
this is better for the back. i'd do the same. what's the problem?

should workers doing real essential jobs sacrifice their health for your gay manchild pc?

>>106595330
kek the way she's doing it is exactly how military men workout by flipping tractor tires

>>106595330
You faggots need to sparta kick her. You yanks are so sissified.

https://wccftech.com/another-chinese-gpu-nears-tape-out-as-loongson-finalizes-its-first-chip-the-9a1000/
>Popular Chinese CPU manufacturer Loongson is set to enter the GPU segment soon. Its first chip, the 9A1000, will be taped out in the next few months.

LOONGSON WON

THANK YOU LOONGSON

>>106595412
and dont get me started on boomers and their "cathode ray tubes" (old tvs/monitors) hobby

how about i dont "decapitate" you you greasy old autistic faggot

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5070ti or 9070xt for 4k gayman? price is rougly the same right now
cpu is 9800x3d if that matters

>>106595340
Wise choice
Can't say the same for myself. Am likely to bite the bullet and just hope it'll work forever after w/o RMA
Captcha: TTWTT

>>106595596
>price is rougly the same right now
Then the 5070ti of course, what are you retarded?

How do I sort out the "less trash" options among cheapskate SSDs?

>>106595678
For gayman? Doesn't matter, any NVME SSD will be more than fast enough. The loading speed bottleneck will be the game engine or your CPU. Hell even a SATA SSD would be okay, but quality SATA SSDs are expensive. I sometimes game from an external SSD on a 5Gbit USB port, and it werks fine.
Productivity, like 4K video rendering and shit? No clue.

>>106595258
hard to say when they will be released, MSI Max got announced around month ago, and Gigabyte X3D only about three days ago
Not sure about what the Max is about, might be mostly cosmetic uplift, but they will also finally release x870e Ace, which is like Godlike, but without the stupid screen and magnetic elements which break the board, and costs about 60% of Godlike

>>106595747
>Max
mostly just NIC upgrades across the board so you get 10G with MEG and 5G with MPG boards

Why do only expensive mobos have USB 3.2 Gen 2? Not even Thunderbolt or USB 4... I'm stuck with rebranded USB 3.0 speeds for another PC because I didn't read the fine print of 3.2 Gen 1 being a scam...

>>106595863
A lot of people seem to prefer the lanes going to m.2. slots instead of USB4 as a lot of high end boards suffer from shared lanes.

what benchmarks or calculations do they use for FP32 numbers and all that TFLOP stuff?

>>106595747
the ace looks cool but it really is just
>oops all 10g usb
and 1 extra onboard nvme
>>106595762
>just nic upgrades
-
k, thats all I needed to know, ill buy the x870e tomahawk before the stock vanishes and then comes back more expensive like it already did in amazon

What is the current hotness for bottom of the barrel budget CPUs for web browsing? Intel with graphics.

>>106595979
a phone. samsung phones go for as low as $5 and you cant beat the tdp.

>>106595979
13400 and 14400 is still king
theres nothing that can beat having 6 alderlake cores and 8 gracemont cores at that price

>>106595979
>bottom of the barrel budget
probably 12100 or 14100

>>106595979
12100 or 13100. $70 for it and the cooler second hand

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Day20 FAFO'ing with the G80SD

>Started monitor it did not have a blackscreen after the usual 12 minutes if I am being right today
>Not related but related to OLED TECH: Went to store and looked at a 27" 1440p asus WOLED real close and yeah, genuninely the text rendering looks like absolute ASS how bad it is, keep in mind I complain a bit about 4k 32" 140ppi QDOLED

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Hello im selling my VR (Meta Quest 3) to some guy for 380euros (dont worry i tried to squeeze like 500 but nobody wanted to bite for like 9months)+ 1x16gb ram Corsair is there any way to know from just the look if shit is legit or ? (pic related on the left is ram and on the right is my pc even if it dosent support the ram i think it is a good deal)

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>>106596095
also
Makes me think how I would cope with an oled TV with even lower ppi if the text rendering looks THAT bad, like insanely bad
I might be forced to stick with monitors after all
always preferred res over lower res

>>106595678
Go with this one, high end or lower. Acer and Adata are not trash BTW, they are alright.

>>106595405
Bump. What do you think of this list >>106595628 ?

>>106595596
If gayman on Windows, 5070Ti. If on Linux, 9070xt.

>>106594320
This is plenty.

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>>106596208
Tourist here partpicker has shit UI and everything i would just go to logicalincrements and pick the tier and have F U N.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/s/mc3ghIaxQ7

>>106594640
What are these off brand oled monitors?

>>106596256
Pretty cool. I wish they made larger cards, made rocm less shit and made zluda right this time.

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>>106596256
However

>>106596208
Looks okay at a glance imo
Can't look more in-depth into that PSU quality 'cos it's Wagecucksday but it does look runnable and compatible

>>106596349
Its fine https://www.cybenetics.com/evaluations/psus/2483/

Its hard to get good low wattage PSU for servers. I wish there was RM550X or something similar. Even 450W is plenty for this build.

>>106596095
sounds like only a 5k monitor can cure your autism.

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What is the RAM meta for 9950x? Is it still ddr5 6000? 6400, 7200 or 8000 not popular yet? Or is the price to performance still not there? Its for compile heavy workloads. BTW, should I look at 7950x3d or 9950x3d instead of a 9950x?

>>106595979
i have an i3-6100 that is worhtless. You could probably get one for $5 on ebay if you wanted.

>>106595656
Dunno i have a 5070 ti and kind of wish I had a 9070 xt just due to the games I play, that and nvidias drivers are actually really shit now for some reason

>>106596399
buying ddr5 thats above 6000mhz is a waste of money for the marginal performance gains. the latency is more important past that.

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>>106595405
>>106596208
Do you have a list of applications that can leverage all of the 9950X's cores and 64GB of RAM?

That mobo is fine (6x50A phases is plenty), and if you wanted to save some money if you don't need integrated Wifi:
Asrock B650M-HDVM.2
Or this model if you need Wi-fi:
MSI Pro B650M-A Wifi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtHOOyWYiic

Slightly cheaper RAM:
G.Skill F5-6000J3636F32GX2-TZ5RK

For the case consider the Montech X1 that is much cheaper and already comes with 4 installed fans:
4chan won't let me post full pricetracker URLs so just search those part #s.

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>>106596397
Adding onto that, what do I mean 1440p woled looks like ass?
Like in windows settings menu, trying to read small text descriptions, it's literally unreadable due to being so low pixels and the sub pixel matrix, like, looks like a pentile display extremely low res, like a 1080p lcd would be ultra clear in comparison
Or maybe I've forgotten how low res/ppi displays look? Can't be, nothing looks that bad
Like text letters missing lines and looking like it has artifacts or something fucked
Even just getting an unscaled 42" LG tv if it looks like that unscaled close distance.. yep it's over

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Stunning : Borderlands 4 totally playable on the 8700g, rendering all poorfag seethe effectively debunked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du4udMySAS0

does scale work with intel arc or just amd?

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I'm trying to build a workstation for fusion 360 pro. What's a realistically affordable workstation GPU? Is there any reliable website for benchmarks?

>>106596728
weird fucking cat

>>106595412
I dream of the days that robots can do all poorfag jobs so we can exterminate all the lower classes

should I get a 1000 zone mini led or wait for 2000 zone ones? is that a big difference?

>>106596577
did you look at the 480hz panels that have the new layout or one of the older ones?

>>106595464
based. what happened to moore threads?

>>106596312
>it takes up 2fps instead of 0.5s of a frame
wow

>>106596605
it looks almost like a gamecube game

>>106593146
For the monitors in the OP, 1440p specifically, are they ordered by recommendation or do they all offer about the same? I don't really want to spend more than 250$

>>106593364
Maybe if outside aesthetics are the only thing you care about.
Inside is just mass produced crap.

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>>106596822
I believe it was the PG27AQDM
does not seem much better with the 480hz PG27AQDP to right here

like it was actually worse than I remembered and thought
especially small text, you just see pixels, like text is garbled and arrifacted
like
bad
so damn bad

>>106596962
M27QA has a built-in KVM switch.
Cheaper monitors tend to have worse factory color calibration, not necessarily a deal breaker.

>>106596256
>>106596312
Great. Does this mean people will finally stop claiming fsr4 is equal/better than dlss 4 now that everyone can try it?

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ACK

>>106596872
As far I know nothing new, they are still in, probably working on some new GPU
Now there will be at least three different GPU makers in China

>>106596312
this is without optimizations from AMD. post optimization will run even better.

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>>106596256
Why is the guy only sharing the .dll to people who dm him? That's very sus

>>106597041
>KVM switch
Would I ever use this if I don't even know what it is? I saw the doc in the first post and was looking at the Asus XG27ACS too

>>106597096
Keep waiting™

>>106597155
you can compile it yourself from the leaked sdk but first you need to find it. its not normie accessible.

>interested in the Lancool 207 Digital
>oops if you got a 160mm power supply at the recommended maximum spec the power cable becomes a super tight fit
>better buy our proprietary power Lian Li power supply we built specifically for cases like this instead

>>106596256
The biggest news for me is that they haven't abandoned rdna3

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I think I've reached the final setup of my next build: I've been interested in both the 9700X, the 9900X and the 265KF but considering that gaming is one of the main purposes of my future PC I thought that probably I should stop coping and I should simply get the best gaming CPU without compromises right now, especially considering I'll be playing some old titles at 1080p to try to squeeze out the max possible performance and that the total price of this build is safely below 2K. Country is Italy, my monitor has a 1440p res and 240Hz refresh rate. My current PC mounts a i5 6500 and a GTX 1060 6GB so I guess I should expect a pretty big performance leap. Do you have any last thoughts before I pull the trigger?

How much of 14600K would be wasted on GTX 1070 Ti? I'm downgrading, should I get 12600KF instead?

>>106597512
wtf are these low prices?
where are you from?

>>106596124
Well fuck it hope the deal goes throught buying that headset was one of biggest mistakes of my life.

>>106597512
Looks good for the intended purpose. The LCD in the case is cool but I personally dislike things that are stuck on the CPU in the background but then again I have to do the same with AIDA64 for the display on my AIO. Most people prefer two drives, one for the OS and a second one for data.

>>106597603
Italy
>>106597636
>LCD
I would also prefer a more simple case. Do you know if there is any other case in the OP which can fit a 360mm AIO on the top?
>second one for data
A 8TB WD Black is around 269€ right now, so maybe I should consider grabbing it too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzZ5aw5TTXE
btf is cool as fuck man

>>106597734
>you can pull power from the btf connector and the 16 pin even on the 5070ti
this is the future

>>106597747
>>106597734
>it also works as an anti sag stand
my next gpu will have btf

test

>still no asus btf boards with amd sockets
what's the point?

>>106597782
>no more usb issues or randomly dying cpus
sounds like a good deal

>>106597782
There is one, the Hero
Also the Sapphire x870e is/was supposed to have the BTF GPU connector

>>106597693
Wouldn't something like the be Quiet pure base work? Not sure how good it is and if it fits all your needs.

>Heat diodes
>Phonon engineering
>Quantum tunnelling
Which one of these is usable to cool MSI A15 thin, it heats up while installing winblows

>>106597512
I was looking at almost the exact same build yesterday. I'm on a GTX 980 4GB, so I'm even deeper in the hole than you are.

I'm rolling two thoughts around my mind before I buy:
1. Black Friday.
Big sales could mean a significant saving late November / early December.
2. The 50 series Super cards are likely to drop (or at least have firmer dates) within 3-4 months.
When they do the 5070 Ti is probably going to see a decent price drop since people are going to want the extra VRAM Super. There's also the possibility of nabbing a MSRP 5070 Ti Super in an initial release batch which might cost the same or even less than an inflated 5070 Ti does right now. That's potentially 8GB of extra VRAM for 0 additional money in just a couple of months.

My plan:
>Buy everything except the GPU around Black Friday to take advantage of any good deals
>Run my coughing baby 980 in the new system until the 50XX Supers release
>See where the best value is when they do

>>106597848
Do old cards drop value, ther are lots of 4070 Tis with the same price as 5070 Tis

https://www.ddr4andddr5desktopmemoryspeedsettlement.com/home

free money glitch spotted (burgers only)

>>106597924
>burgers are too retarded to enable XMP

>>106597954
it's a valid lawsuit.

you aren't guaranteed xmp or expo speeds, but the onus should be on the motherboard manufacturers, not the ram

Should I get a monitor with Edge LEDs or Mini? The second seems rather hard to get.

>>106597961
criticizing motherboard manufacturers makes more sense because they literally just take the highest speed that they could get into windows with on a binned CPU and put it up on their website
corsair has validated that the memory sticks are stable at the rated speed, they can't do anything else to fix your shitty setup or purchasing decisions

>>106597924
>The plaintiffs in the lawsuit allege they were led to believe that the advertised speeds were “out of the box” speeds requiring no adjustments to their PCs.
LOOOOOL

Even with EXPO/XMP you still have to make adjustments. They just use bare minimum stuff to get the worst chip to boot.

>>106597924
>motherboard manufacturers allowed to pump 300 niggawatts into your cpu
>lie about the type of ram you can run
and they always get away with it

Why are RX 9070 prices spiking all the sudden? They were $50 above MSRP and now it's $150-170.

>>106598000
are you the eu guy complaining about no minileds in eu?
if so yes I agree too and not only that but they are expensive as fuck (at 4k)
my advice buy a 4k qdoled or get cucked and buy a 4k 27" ips or something
idk

>>106598030
Retailers are their own scalpers. Newegg and Amazon both fluctuate the price of hot items. Asus Astral for example can range from MSRP to almost 2x.

>>106597871
I'd guess the reason those 4070s are there at 5070 prices is that no one is buying at that price.

>>106597924
One day someone will sue over silicon lottery and Pandora’s box will finally be open for frivolous pc lawsuits

I want to get zen 6 but need pc parts now (5950x cpu died, it is unstable). Can I just get AM5 platform now? Is there anything I should get to be better off later on?

>>106598006
In reality the entire industry is pretty much to blame because the industry quite literally revolves around NOT selling you a working PC.
That's not to say they don't want you to have a working PC but under no circumstances do they want to be liable for the functionality of your PC.

You'll never find Corsair supplying big OEMs with OCed modules because at that point Corsair has to answer to another megacorp for why their memory isn't functional rather than individual builders

>>106598180
This one isn't super frivolous.
It really is about time the memory vendors get slapped about memory speeds that only work under certain circumstances.
It would only seem frivolous if you are otherwise conditioned to believe the cottage industry of XMP/EXPO memory is somehow a normal thing in the grand scheme.

>>106598202
you don't buy a "working PC", you buy parts and build a working PC
if you want a system that has been validated end-to-end you buy a prebuilt (lol)

>>106597924
It must be a very small settlement if they actually agreed to pay it out. It’s going to be like 1 million dollars spread out to 500k people

Looking for a 850W PSU, thought about getting the MSI MAG A850GL but I heard that it generates too much noise.

>>106598369
Corsair makes good psus
Corsair has a good community and after purchase support

>>106598369
my "850W be quiet! System Power 10 Gold 80+" just werks but it's overkill for my system by 100-200 watts, so...

Should I risk getting an Asrock board with a 7800x3d?

>>106598401
nothing ever happens

>>106598409
I only ever found posts with dead AM5 CPUs with Asrock boards...

https://github.com/GPUOpen-Drivers/AMDVLK/discussions/416

this is huge news lads

>>106598401
No retard. Have you looked at /r/as rock at all this year? There are new dead cpu reports every single day

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my assrock is running my 9600 at very normal voltages so there's no indication it might kill my CPU

>>106598268
From a liability standpoint, yes you aren't buying a working PC but consumer expectations are such that if you build a PC or buy a component there is a reasonable expectation that everything should work at the speeds rated and be reliable.
I mean I get the perspective of fuck the normie and fuck the non-technicals because you want memory vendors to make fast kits to tickle your epeen and you don't want the lowest common denominator to get in the way.
At the same time tho component vendors have been playing a game where they want to advertise things and then bury what it actually means.
Thinking back to DDR4, you could buy "3200mhz" DDR4 with a motherboard and CPU that supports 3200mhz DDR4 memory without overclocking and it won't run at 3200Mhz without intervention. If it's an OEM system you'd be incapable of running those sticks at 3200mhz because the speed is locked behind an XMP profile.

This lawsuit isn't going to change what companies are selling but it is going to mean more info on what is compatible is going to be more on the forefront which IDK who can argue that that's a bad thing.

>spend months trying to budget the build, waiting for sales, compare every parts to get the most price per performance/features for each component
>used all of the money saved to overpay for a case I like anyway

>>106597311
On Linux they support AMD cards as far back as HD 7000 from 2012.
On Windows they only support RDNA.

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LOL
Why is nobody sueing
Why isn’t there a recall

>>106598937
Guess it's not just X3D after all. May as well spring for a motherboard worth a shit at this point, ASRock flooded parts with so many different budget things and now we see why.

>>106593666
VRAM limitation has been overinflated, what games are unplayable because you have 12GB?

>>106596214
>gaming
>on linux

>>106598937
How do they know their cpu died? For all they know their ram gave up. CPU debug light can also mean dead Mobo.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/1ngac7t/another_dead_9800x3d/

>>106598976
Avoid Nvidia then because their drivers don't work on Windows 10, Windows 11, Linux, or FreeBSD today.

>asscock
>anus
>niggerbyte
>mshite

Why nobody makes good AMD motherboard? It's been like this since the first Ryzen. Intel never had this many problem with motherboards.

>>106599020
asus does make good ones though

>>106599027
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8SxtDCxt_sI

>>106599029
i'm not watching your tiktoker say stupid shit sorry

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>>106599020
Intel doesn't just let them just go yolo on boards.

whats the the biggest big dick case money can buy? None of this compact shit.
...
...
at around the 100-200 price point

>>106599057
o11d evo xl

>>106599020
huh? ASUS easily makes the best AMD motherboards. They can fuck off with everything else though.

>>106599067
people hate asus because they deny rmas which is a valid reason to hate them, but pretending like they dont make the best pc hardware is some delusional poorfag cope that i've been seeing a lot recently. probably the techjesus effect

>>106599067
My Tuf B650-e comes with a dead audio chip and asus told me to fuck off.

>>106599083
Their monitors are for poorfags and they're horrendous.

>>106599060
is there something like this without the gay glass

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>>106599131

>>106599147
needs moar fans

>>106599147
>>106599131

i forgot to say that there's a front panel mesh kit you can buy, but afaik there's nothing you can do about the side glass panel

>>106599083
I can understand people hating their psus or monitors but i can't see them hating their mobos they are on top when it comes to bios support especially when they got shit like xbox rog ally its key partnership between microsoft and amd.

>>106599089
mobo audio is garbage in general. also bluetooth won.

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>>106593146
ALL of the solid state storage

>>106592299
Any updates build bro?

I have usb speaker plugged directly to the motherboard and once in a while it wont start together with windows and I have to restart my PC for it to work again. Can it be dead mobo?

>>106599229
is it a usb c speaker?

>>106599327
it's old USB A 2.0

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What did Steve mean by this?

Shit, SSD/Nand related stuff will get more expensive very very soon.

For my new system I switch mostly to NVMe modules.

Anything you should watch out for? I don't care about super high reading/writing speed, for your average gamer, I doubt the difference is noticeable.

But I want reliability, I don't want that shit to overheat after few hours, I don't want it to randomly fail and lose all my data.

>>106599341
is your bios up to date
are your chipset drivers up to date
have you tried another usb port

>>106599379
Yeah they are also tried other ports. Mouse, keyboard and bluetooth dongle works fine. Could be the speaker shitting itself soon but it works 99% of the time only sometimes it wont start with windows.

>>106599399
in that case it most likely is the speaker

>>106599399
it's the speakers and they are most likely using the same shitty chink hardware found in fiio dacs that cause the same problem

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Any compact mid tower case recommendations with no glass or wood on it?

>>106599482
Why do you hate class?

>>106599494
I guess I've grown out of it, and my PC is on the left so the internals are never facing me anyway.

>>106599510
you sound like a zoomer trying to place maturity on the wrong aspects of life

glass is fun
fun is not an inherently childish thing
tldr stop being a faggot

>>106599448
>>106599419
I guess it's kinda old but I but used it on win10 and my old PC for years without problem. Built this new PC and win11 about 2 weeks ago and it happened like 3-4 times already. I don't rule out bad bios or chipset driver and possibly a lemon motherboard yet.

>>106599510
Acceptable answer for the glass but not for the wood. You can't grow out of something that is a new thing. If anything you should be tired of metal grey since that's 99% of cases.

>>106599541
Besides the North, the cases I've seen that use it feel tacky where they just got some vinyl strip and glued them on lol.

>>106599229
Have you considered just unplugging / replugging the speaker only?

>>106599518
>Trying to force anon into something he doesn't want
The only faggot is you.

is there anons that have the frame 5000d?
I saw this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW3wk9hNL_U
anyone here has done it? the guy didnt include the exact measurements and size of thumbscrew to make the wood quarter side panel
>>106599205
I second this, all I remember from last night is build anon fucking up on the radiator size and his motherboard i/o being crooked
>>106599518
different anon here, i hate the glass, I can handle it with care but its entirely useless for non [g]a[y] rgb builds and only serves as a liability in those instances

https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/comments/1nhxgd0/fsr_4_working_in_cyberpunk_2077_on_rdna3_7900xtx/

>>106599020
am4 msi is still a superb experience to me
so far assrock fucked up a lot during am5 era
also the wintel/intlel oem cartel still exists, sadly the local antiamdnigger will never mention it

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>>106599175
>VRAMLET card
See me after class.

>>106599518
>you sound like a zoomer trying to place maturity on the wrong aspects of life
I'm in this post and I don't like it...

>>106599518
your mentally ill
glass is not fun
glass is not something that belongs on a pc case

>>106599825
YOU'RE trying to hard lil bro.

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Do millennial boomers have shittier tastes than actual boomers?

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What does it feel like?

Hey /g/uys I have a PC building question but didn't want to make a new thread for it.

I have a respiratory condition and can't use anything with a fan in it for long periods of time.

This might be a tough ask but I was wondering if you had anything thoughts on a fanless PC build. I'd like to be able to emulate games up to Xbox/PS2/Gamecube on it.

So far I have been looking at intel's N series cpu's in prebuilt systems, and while they are cheap, I'm not sure if they are powerful enough.

Thanks.

>>106599878
Noctua has a fanless cooler but I don't know how far you can get with that.
>I have a respiratory condition and can't use anything with a fan in it for long periods of time.
More things than not have fans in them nowadays, how do you live? And how can this possibly cause you issues?

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>>106599904
I should have included a picture.

>>106599864
The alien goo caresses your hand sensually.

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>>106599878
Giant external rad. Assuming your not running insane watts, you can go without fans

Look up the Mo-Ra IV 600

What advantages does the 5080 have over the 5070ti to warrant the price difference?

>>106599878
The air isn't blowing in your face, this doesn't make any sense. Anyway the simplest solution is to set your desk up right next to your door and put the computer on a little wheel cart and set it on the other side of your room and close the door.

>>106599919
far as I know
80 has about 2000 more cuda cores and thats about it

>>106599908
I have one and it's useless without good airflow or open bench

can't find an X3D chip at a reasonable price I might go 56, 57, or 5800 for my last AM4 upgrade

>>106600004
It also has the full 64mb L2 cache instead of only 48mb on the 70ti

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>>106600075
Also trying to find a CPU cooler that would fit this case that actually performs better than the old AMD Wraith Spire with the vapor chamber, runs about 50 at idle and 80ish at load for a 3600 at 4.2GHz

>>106600075
>tfw the only reason i got a 5700x3d is because i dropped my 3600 during my last full cleanup and didnt trust anyone to fix it right
to think right after i bought it (((suddenly))) it either doubled its price or went out of stock
the move of the decade for me

AHHHHHHHHH

When will the Arc B60 come out finally?

>24gb
>may beat the 5090 in some workloads

>>106600156
shit stayed at a reasonable price when I was saving, but now that I saved up to that original price it tripled kek

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>>106600137

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>>106600193
saw someone with the same case and the same mobo (Gigabyte Aorus B550i) have to hack the IS-55 with a dremel to make it fit lmao, I'm currently looking at the Deepcool AN400

>>106600137
counterpoint, why do you need a portable pc?

>>106600296
I already have it, I move back n forth between two countries, used to have the Node 202 case when I just moved between cities

>>106600277
>deepcool
if you aren't living in the US

>>106600329
can't even find that particular model online at a reasonable price as a seanig wtf, might have to look at the Thermalright or scour some physical stores

>>106600315
>I move back n forth between two countries
so you're a spy.

>>106599908
gorgeous!

>>106600357
they are the same if not more expensive then their dual tower models

FanlessAnon here. Been reading your suggestions and researching.

>>106599904
>And how can this possibly cause you issues?
I'm allergic to dust and other particles in the air. The less the ambient air is disturbed, the better. It gets particularly bad around conventional computers since they both collect dust and move it around.

>how do you live?
Medication for inflammation and exposure management.

>>106599925
>set your desk up right next to your door and put the computer on a little wheel cart and set it on the other side of your room and close the door
It would be preferable if there was minimal air movement in my living space at all. I could potentially put the PC in a closet and seal it in, however it would be ticking timebomb in terms of maintenance. Thanks for the reply though!

>>106600439
>I'm allergic to dust and other particles in the air.
Can't you just have constant air flow to prevent dust particles in the air? Also as the others have pointed out there are far better options you can try than a fanless PC.

Did it, forced myself to order.

MSI B650M Tomahawk, only decent microATX board for 180€, albeit no PCIe5, but I only upgrade once every 7/8 years.

BeQuiet PSU 550W, no need for more, total system will not draw more than 350W.
Corsair was a bit cheaper, but not risking click noises.

Western Digital Black 850 NVMe 2TB, damn expensive...

Found out that RTX 5070's where I am are slightly cheaper than RX 9070's. Which between the two would be better for the long-term? Is the 12GB ram really that much of an issue for the 5070?
I'm mostly going to be using it for gayming and some video editing here and there, though I've been curious in dabbling in AI image-generation stuff, which I hear AMD hasn't really bothered to catch up with.

>>106600600
>gayming and some video editing here and there, though I've been curious in dabbling in AI image-generation stuff
with that combination you sure as hell don't want anything amd. Should also really also consider the 70ti
Even just for gaming if they were the same price there are definitely several valid arguments for the 5070

>>106599106
they have the best 4k240hz QD-OLEDs

any idea when the tandem oled shit is coming out to retail?

>>106600638
Can someone explain the new buzzword? What does it mean?

>>106600614
It’s the exact same panel from lg or Samsung with the exact same features as mandated by the manufacturer. Asus monitors are the weakest link in their product stack.

>>106600439
do air filters not do anything for you?
I would buy those instead of a puter if I were you

>>106600539
Hope you enjoy.

>>106600638
>any idea when the tandem oled shit is coming out to retail?
https://www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor/
https://old.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1mw9s7i/road_to_buying_a_new_oled_monitor_waiting_for_the/
Early October.

>>106598186
You can poomp more voltage into it and see if it becomes stable

>>106598186
>5950x
If it's just unstable and not unbootable, you can try downclocking and overvolting to get it stable again

>>106600703
Will tandem oled be a thing just for monitors or will it come to tv's as well?

>>106600608
>with that combination you sure as hell don't want anything amd
Guess I'm not too surprised. The 12GB VRAM is the only thing giving me pause though, will there be any issues down the line for 1440p? The only 'intensive' games I have that come to mind are Cyberpunk 2077, modded Skyrim and Helldivers 2 (though that third one has dogshit optimisation anyway) and I'd like to use the GPU for as long as I feasibly can.
>Should also really also consider the 70ti
If I can justify paying extra I might consider it. Right now it's pretty expensive for my budget, and I'm not looking for crazy high-end stuff either since I'm not doing anything that's too demanding.
>there are definitely several valid arguments for the 5070
Such as? I haven't been keeping too up to date with PC developments

>>106600756
The gpu will need to run games released in 5 years not games that came out before covid

>>106600776
That doesn't answer anything I asked.
Why should I NEED to run upcoming UE5 games that I won't care about to begin with.

>>106600805
UE5 games are shovelware garbage meant to be played for a week and forgotten.
They still develop games on other engines.

>>106600756
are used cards an option, like a 4070tis
5060ti is lacking in performance while 5070 12gb vram hurts if you want to dabble in ai stuff

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>>106593146
Thoughts? 1440p 100++ fps machine.

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>>106600748
>Will tandem oled be a thing just for monitors or will it come to tv's as well?
It already is. This year's 2025 lineup from LG G5 series from LG uses it in all sizes except the 97" version:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/g5-oled
These panel makers wouldn't waste money running two separate lines when they can just cut panels for TVs & monitors all from the same motherglass to maximize yield (picrel).

>>106600871
1. Are you in the US right?
2. If yes to #1, do you live near a MicroCenter?
3. Is this build mostly for gaming?
Post your PCPP link.

Right off the bat at your budget I'd go for a 4K OLED.
2x32GB is better than 4x16GB RAM
Overspending on the PSU and mobo unless it has a feature set that you can't get with cheaper boards.
>Paying for Windows
Visit /fwt/ >>106569030

>>106600849
I'd prefer fresh parts for my new build.
I'm not looking for anything super high-end, just a decent (upper)mid-range rig that can last a while without shitting itself like my current PC. From what I've read on other places 5070 still seems 'good enough' for ai stuff, which is fine for me since that's just an extra thing on the side, the PC's mainly for games, which is where my main uncertainties are with the VRAM.

>>106600940
Oh cool, so all they need to do is solve the dithering thing and oled will be great again. Why can't they do that right now?

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only getting 71 MB/s write speed concatenating files with this 9800x3d on a 350 GB file.
Why are cpus so miserably slow in 2025?

>>106599020
>ANUS ProFart
I'm laughing like a retard on public transportation kek

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>>106600972
>>106600871
MicroCenter CHADS HOW WE FEELING

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>>106601001
>$400
>for 8 (eight) cores

>>106601018
yes, it is the new 7700k scam cpu count.

Looking at how this program works, I would benefit from getting a 4TB wd 8100 and a 9950x3d. As much as the 5090 would help, the amount of heat it would generate would completely overpower my room.

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>>106600756
>Cyberpunk 2077
You're good to go for this one. Never played the other 2
At the very least I think anyone would say that 12gb is going to continue to be fine until at least the end of the next console cross gen period however long that is. My head canon based off of absolutely nothing with no evidence behind it is 6-7 years before it could maybe be compared to 8gb today.

>If I can justify paying extra
If the difference makes you at all sketched out it's probably not worth it. It would be a nice to have especially for the ai and productivity but you can certainly make do with a 5070.
For games I by default just suggest the 5070 if the 5060ti isn't fast enough and the 5090 is too expensive. I never got the "hype" of the 70ti especially with the way pricing worked out literally everywhere. 5070ti is a much better 4k card though

>such as
Longevity and heavy rt/path tracing performance would be the main one to me, the pt will almost certainly matter a lot more 2/3 years from now. 5070 does path tracing better than a 2070 or 2080 or something did "regular" rt. Also amd has basically abandoned like 5 straight gens of cards early on windows
DLSS Featureset is still better than FSR. There's still no ray reconstruction or (tolerable) framegen alternative, was supposed to be something from amd later this year but seeing how long it took for a dlss 2/3 upscaling equivalent I wouldn't count on it being immediately usable.
Oh and also the new transformer dlss is really good, performance mode even at 1080p will hold up almost always.

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>>106601031
>the amount of heat it would generate would completely overpower my room.
I put this in a spare bedroom

>>106601018
You only need 6 for gayming and doing anything besides that, at home, is for faggots that didn't get fucked hard enough at work

>>106601056
It's just funny how AMDrones can complain about nvidias shit when they pony up for that dick slap in the face.

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>>106601018
>10-core single ccx 10900k is lost technology

>>106600871
>using all 4 ram slots for 64GB
>wasting nvme slots on budget 2TB drives
>windows 11 home oem
>240hz qd oled when 360hz is $100 more
>$239 computer case (?)
Get a 9800x3d instead of the 9950x3d if you don't need the extra cores.
Maybe a cheaper case if we are min/maxing

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Crazy jow novideo is so dogshit on borderlands that even a radeon igpu isn't far behind 5060ti. Where is the UE5 GeForce advantage that shills keep spamming about in this game?

>>106601076
Is AMD paying you?

>>106601074
>Get a 9800x3d instead of the 9950x3d if you don't need the extra cores.
if he runs windows, he needs the cores. Anyone using a 9800x3d is coping. they're fine on linux

>>106601050
I'm just a casual hobbyist that got a cracked copy of tvai. If it was more serious, I would get a seperate workstation build and put it down in the basement.

what do you do for networking with that computer? My house doesn't have ethernet wired in the walls which complicates the matter.

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>>106600608
>AI image-generation

>>106601127
I generate SDXL Illustrious images in 6 seconds each on my 5070. My old 1660 Super took 2 minutes with the same settings.
Modern front-ends like A1111 ReForge do optimisations that let you run shit at 12GB vram comfortably.

wow now he switched to shit on the 9800x3d
is he running out of scripts?

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>>106600972
1. No, the dollar price is for readability.
2. No.
3. Yeah.
No, thanks.
I don't like 4K, budget is not an issue it's just too cumbersome.
Thank you for the RAM tip.
PSU and mobo are future-proofing for upgrades.
>paying for windows.
That's just what kind of OS I'm gonna use, everyon knows Kmspico nowadays.
>>106601074
What kind of read and write speed should I look for to get a nice nvme drives?
Genuine question.
And 360hz is overkill for most newish competitive games, like Deadlock.
>cheaper case
I like it.

Thank you for the advice, i've already swapped the RAM for a 2x32 and changed the NVMes to double the write and read speed.
More tips would be appreciated.

>>106593369
>>106593466
I did this exact same decision process kek. got the KTC. the KTC is good, but I do wonder if the ASUS would have had less glow.. probably not

>>106601276
>KMSpico
Anon I...

>>106601276
>1. No, the dollar price is for readability.
What country are you in? It can be helpful to make specific recommendations if we know what prices/parts availability is like in your local market.

>What kind of read and write speed should I look for to get a nice nvme drives?
It kind of doesn't matter since apps/games only care about access latency and low queue depth random read/writes which are basically the same for all NVMEs regardless of PCIE generation. But for sequential anything over 4000GB/s is considered modernish without paying bleeding edge premiums.

>I don't like 4K, budget is not an issue it's just too cumbersome.
>And 360hz is overkill for most newish competitive games, like Deadlock.
In that case, if you're sticking with 1440p get one of the new 500Hz panels (model list):
https://www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor/
Not for the refresh rate but because it uses the latest gen panel from Samsung that handles full-field brightness better than the 240/360Hz SKUs and is HDR True Black 500 certified so you have less ABL/panel dimming:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIFPzQ5L-ZM&t=1077s

>>106601315
>4000GB/s
*MB/s

>>106601076
NVIDIA has the best performing card for this game though

>>106600871
just bump to a single 4TB SN850X

I don't have the time to use my PC for anything demanding... I swear work is a scam, you get to buy cool shit and then not even get to use them for the majority (8+ hours) of your waking day...

>>106601306
KMSpico, KMS_VS_ALL, whatever is used nowadays.
>>106601315
Then why were those NVMes called low budget? The SN7100 is 7250MB/s R & 6900MB/s W
>500Hz
Interesting, thank you.

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>>106601276
The main difference between the drives is going to be the sustained write speeds.
The sn7100 is fine for gaming, it is just wasteful to use 2 drives when you only have 3 slots and using the 3rd slot takes bandwidth from the pcie slot.

>>106601276
>And 360hz is overkill for most newish competitive games,
You can tell the difference in motion clarity panning the camera in any game.

It just seems wasteful to spend over $500 on a 240hz monitor in 2025.

https://aomedia.org/press%20releases/AOMedia-Announces-Year-End-Launch-of-Next-Generation-Video-Codec-AV2-on-10th-Anniversary/

AV2 WON

MPEG SHILLS BTFO

>>106601461
>The sn7100 is fine for gaming, it is just wasteful to use 2 drives when you only have 3 slots and using the 3rd slot takes bandwidth from the pcie slot.
Oh I didn't know that, thanks.
>>106601479
No you misunderstood my post, Deadlock doesn't reach 360fps even with a 5090.

builder anon from last night here
my sense of panic has eased
currently looking into how to wire these god damned case fans
after that, I think it's actually boot test time

What's the cheapest x86 mini-ITX NAS build for 4-5 3.5" HDD that one can make using Amazon components? Or would a proprietary Intel/AMD x86 NAS always be cheaper?

>>106601522
>just found out that I used hard drive screws instead of standoff screws for all of my standoffs
haha... ha... they'll be okay, right?

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>>106601715
>just found out that I used hard drive screws instead of standoff screws for all of my standoffs
haha... ha... they'll be okay, right?
>Hell no. They are long (and usually brass vs. steel) for a reason. If you don't use the actual standoffs you risk the board getting a short somewhere and you'll be wondering why there's nothing but a black screen and no power when you first test boot it tomorrow.

>>106601744
No, I mean that I used flat-topped screws shaped sort of like the second screw in the right column, instead of the screws that looked like the second or third screw in the left column, in order to screw through the holes in the motherboard and down into the standoffs.
The standoff posts came pre-installed into the case. They were painted black, so I don't know if they're actually brass underneath.

>>106601522
Boot test is before you put the board in the case

>>106601744
My pc gives small shocks whenever I touch any screws or when I plug a cable to some port but not any external device, then that free end of the cable does the same. It's actually fun, pc works fine.

>>106601819
As a true retard, I decided against that last night.

For me sn850x 2TB is 157€, sn7100 2TB is 127€, apart from the 850 having about double sustained write speeds is there any difference? Also, how do WD and Samsung drives fare on Linux, from what I've gathered both companies dont support their software on those but it doesn't seem to be much of an issues as those are mostly for fetching firmware updates.

>>106601715
>>106601807
I found the spots where I can get my needle-nosed pliers in to hold the standoff still. Replacing them all now.

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