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How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18
• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35
• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8
• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18
• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>106592395
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Which 1DD e-waste should I EQ today?
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>>106612829
My 1DD ewaste has better tuning than your 1DD ewaste, that's why I fixed them with EQ, thanks China for the affordable recycle
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Disregard EPZ shills, acquire unrevised QKZ x HBB's
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>>106613026
Does QKZ make anything good? Getting a free AK6 worked successfully as antimarketing for me
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>>106613089
A broken clock gives the right time once a day or something
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>>106613026
wait QKZ x HBB got revised? shame, that's the cheapest IEM I own I actually like
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>>106613373
I made a whole ass rant in here about it, but I didnt save all the comparison pics. The way chinks make all of these "bang for buck" iems is by making a few high quality units at the beginning of the life cycle, then start producing shit tier quality once all the reviewers graphed them and the hyped died down.
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If only there were some way to do deal with revisions, QC, etc...
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>>106613557
Have you measured the QC of that measuring rig tho?
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>>106613557
do you listen to music outside with these?
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>>106613089
>Does QKZ make anything good?
Just the HBB
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What's an IEM with excellent vocal performance? Something good enough for me to hear the voice practically breathing down my neck
>Price: I can spend about as much as a Moondrop Kadenz
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>>106613162
Also revised.
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does picrel stand to anime girl IEMs?
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>>106613434
this is true for e-waste in general desu, which is why I tend to stay away from 1DDs
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>good IEM
>short, cheap plastic nozzles
Why can't all IEMs have long metal nozzles?
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>>106614617
>posting your fingerprints online
yooooo
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>>106614639
it's not like any of you have a job or the balls to commit a crime anyway
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i mean look at how paranoid eqzo is about xer identity even though literally no one cares. ppl like that practically turn themselves in if they pulled anything. that's the grand irony of opsec
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>>106614169
Etymotic ER4XR + EQ past 800Hz to DF
ER3XR + 75 Ohm impedance adapter performs virtually identically
ER2XR would also do like 90% of the job but it lacks the treble quality magic
Chifis at this price point have shitty drivers with treble peak resonances so dont expect peak vocal performance
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>>106614169
The only one that comes remotely close imo is SR-001
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>>106614169
EDC Pro
vocals are insane
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>>106615193
EDC Pro is good but too V shape for optimal vocals
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Is there any point buying a "basshead" IEM when I can just raise the "Bass" slider in Poweramp? Is there a difference? Would it not be better to buy the perfect IEM in terms of technicals and treble and then EQ the bass to preference?
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>>106615494
just use the bass slider if you like it.
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>>106615494
why wonder about nebulous theory and generalizations? use whatever you have, move the sliders, and listen. nothing is gonna blow up i promise
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>>106615494
BA pos tuned bassy out of the box will be worse than bassboosted 1DD. Within 1DDs bigger drivers usually can handle larger excursion, but the returns beyond 10mm are low.
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pretty sure Lan2 is available now.
many more pos to come as always.
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>>106615494
Everyone does this. The bass only goes up to a point until your IEM or amp craps out and all you get is clipping. Either way you're not gonna get properly-amped planar bass out of 1DD e-waste.
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Only the highest quality minimum phase state-of-the-art-low-distortion dynamic drivers can handle this.
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>>106615726
There's a lot of dynamic drivers in Chinese landfills that need to be recycled after all.
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I've been waiting for Lee to allocate a Hex demo for my local retailer for almost half a year now but he's being a bitch about it.

Also where's Socal anon's impressions?
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>>106615746
this is actually very important if you want to accentuate the sound of a tuba player flutter tonging
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>>106615741
>bass only goes up to a point until your IEM or amp craps out and all you get is clipping.
easily mitigated by using negative pregain.
should be avoiding clipping 100% of the time, regardless.
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>>106615783
Preamp only affects digital clipping. Amps/IEMs clip without any EQ at some point.
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>>106615741
Episode 9000 of retards thinking IEM planars are just like headphone planars.
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>>106615783
Except you need volume for bass and you can't EQ hardware clipping on your landfill excavated e-waste either.
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>>106615808
Still has better bass extension than your e-waste with or without your EQ profile.
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>>106615795
a the end of the day, eq works fine if your pos or amp has the headroom. basshead pos just give you more clean bass headroom before distortion. you’re happy with eq on what you’ve got, that’s all that matters
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>>106615812
except you're confirming what I said. if your gear clips, it’s a hardware limit. that’s literally why basshead IEMs exist. otherwise, you use eq or negative pregain.
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>>106615833
*obliterares your planar pos*
Nothing personal.
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>>106615808
>herp herp
How about make your point instead of nagging, retard.
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>>106615911
Cute e-waste.
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>>106615905
No, I'm saying your unamped 1DD e-waste won't have proper bass because they will clip or be too quiet before they approach the bass of an IEM that costs more than $0.
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>>106615911
I have those and there's some unpleasantness in the high-mids and treble, I need to bring down 3k and 11k by a few dbs to make the sibilance go away. Also I lift the area from 15k to 20k to add some air which is also lacking
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who else enjoying their state of the art portable electrostatic earspeakers
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>>106615911
Tuning aside, Zero2 is the same as any other $20 1DD. I don't know why you think your charts matter when you're going to try and fix them anyway.
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>>106615925
ahahaahhahaha lil bro posts KZ diagrams as his proof planars are great.
lil guy, KZ uses weak as fuck cheapest quality magnets that are smaller than the good quality chinese OEM who makes the 14mm+ planar drivers.
KZ also uses a shittier smaller diaphragm, with one-sided aluminum coating (they call it silver, it's a lie lmao). the other OEM has innovated to dual-sided diaphragm tracings and better copper / alloy sputter deposition.
sit down poorfag.
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>>106615947
I've never heard anything about rosefinch being hard to drive. never.
and what makes you think I'm not using any sort of amp? I think you're missing the point entirely. you're not taking pos sensitivity into account at all.
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>>106615982
tl;dr
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>>106615947
lol? are you stupid? what kind of retarded nonsense is this?
Turns out e-waste is your retarded fucking brain
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>>106615911
I mean I get that you need your charts because it's a schematic on how you'll approach fixing your 1DD, but this has no relevance for someone who has a job.
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>>106615925
Enjoy your brap cannon bro.
>>106616027
Distortion is the only metric that matters for bass. And your planar pos lost.
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At what level does one notice the difference between lossless and lossy music? Do I have to get a decent IEM? Or is it the source that affects it? I tried listening to both versions of Sugar Rush (Wreck it Ralph) using my worn out KZ ZSN Pro (subpar iem I know) from my Xperia 10 VI and couldn't tell the difference. Would it be different if I bought a better IEM like Tangzu wan er 2? Or do I have to have a decent dedicated PAP?
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My IEMs start to noticeably be quieter on right.
I tried cleaning them but it's not that.
What can be the reason? Is this fixable?
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>>106615974
>>106616027
Were you really so assblasted you needed to post twice?
planars are a meme lol get over it dumbass
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>>106616021
Sorry, didn't mean to hit a nerve insulting your fine China.
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>>106616046
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide#iem-maintenance-filters
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>>106616042
>At what level does one notice the difference between lossless and lossy music?
nobody can notice the difference between lossless and lossy music. (unless it's very low quality lossy files)
>couldn't tell the difference
that's normal
>Would it be different if I bought a better IEM like Tangzu wan er 2? Or do I have to have a decent dedicated PAP?
nothing will change
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>>106616042
tl;dr it's only on really specific music/EQ/gear/taste that lossless matters
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>>106616054
Your Zero2 isn't the answer to his question. Get over it.
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>>106616055
are you lost? do you know what thread this is?
surely if yo uare so smart and confident you'll be able to prove that
>1DD e-waste won't have proper bass because they will clip or be too quiet before they approach the bass of an IEM that costs more than $0
whatever the fuck that means
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>>106616089
Your $20 1DD just isn't cutting it. Simple as.
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>>106616088
what question?
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>>106616042
>At what level does one notice the difference between lossless and lossy music?
You need to be below 18 level of age to actually notice a difference between 320kbps and lossless. 99% of nooticers are either straight up delusional or compare flac to youtube(youtube is 16dB quieter due to normalization).
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>>106616095
cutting what? what specific models are you comparing?
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Look at all these retards who honestly cannot fathom that their e-waste cannot be EQ'd into >$30 bassy IEMs. They're so indoctrinated that you could sit them down with a pair of actual IEMs and they still won't understand what you're saying.
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>boost bass on a $20 IEM with no amp
>no clipping
Well that was easy.
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>>106616102
Lossless is 100% audibly different during editing files.
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>>106616042
Yes, your source and IEMs could be better. Or you can just enjoy your music.
Mainly I'd say get different IEMs, ZNS Pro are flaming shit. The phone is fine, and streaming services are at a passable level of quality nowadays.
Particularly for older music, the specific recording/mastering you're listening to is much more important than the sample rate and bit depth of a file.
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>>106615494
>technicals
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Chat, is this worth $3?
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>>106616124
Inverting and subtracting lossy from lossless to "hear" the difference is 100% not how human hearing works.
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>>106616148
You sound subhuman then.
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>>106615971
>earspeakers
>enjoying
Pick one.
>inb4 I enjoy my ears getting hurt after 15 minutes of listening
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>>106616118
you are delusional
>$30?
are you poor or something?
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>>106616166
I can make 2 lossless tracks that will sound identical but have massive differences in editing. You just need to read a book or something.
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>>106616124
what does this mean
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>>106616141
no?
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>>106616074
>>106616127
>>106616075
>>106616102
I'll get tangzu wan er 2 and continue enjoying my music then. I'll see if I want to drop more money for better iems after that
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>>106616171
unironically why EQ'd KZ sounds better than iemg recs
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>>106616222
KZ fits like shit tho.
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>>106616227
My eartips cost more than the IEM idc
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>>106616232
You described, like, all IEMs.
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>>106616067
Thanks anon
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>>106616209
it's even worse btw
people can't tell the difference between lossless files and files from streaming services
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>>106616222
I have edc pro and I'm not willing to deal with it in any way shape or form
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>wanted to kill iemg
>killed hpg instead
What did he mean by this.
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>>106616132
Is this Sam Hyde?
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>>106616241
I thought it was the best cheapest IEM in it's price range
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>>106616209
Don't dwell on it. Lossless vs lossy is not a real problem. Local vs streaming and old master vs new master is the real problem. Lossy version of an old master will sound better than lossless version of a new master, and that same master will sound better locally than in streaming apps.
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>>106616283
Ignore the KZ shill.
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>>106616241
Streaming services usually offer shit loudness war masters with no dynamic range, so you're just comparing one clipping garbo to another clipping garbo.
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>>106616222
Checked.
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>>106616283
no I didn't mean the iem I meant people's ability to recognize differences between formats
waner 2 is fine obviously
sorry for the confusion
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>>106616257
hpg has too many iemg posters to be considered a separate thread desu
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>>106616300
have actual examples to back that one up? tho I guess I don't listen to weirdo garbage so versions I check are never fucked up
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forget about eq, bros.
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eq should be illegal
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>>106616328
There's an entire fucking database.
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>>106616332
>nooo you can't just pirate my $6000 IEM
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>>106616339
Note: e-waste buyers actually believe this.
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>>106616339
200Hz-2k is the only reliable portion of that graph. and even with that, both sets wouldn't really be considered that similar.
I do love the CRA for its bass though
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>>106616348
And IEM owners actually know this.
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>>106616357
IEM owners aren't listening to $0s.
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>>106616361
Yeah, they're listening to $6000s >>106616339
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>>106616339
Put that back in the landfill where it belongs, Chang.
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>>106616370
It's brimming with sennheisers sorry.
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>>106616348
it's not a matter of believing
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>>106616383
Being better than sennheiser award
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water cooled iem's
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It's over.
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>>106616193
Thanks. How about this? I have $3 ready to burn.
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>>106616450
>flagship
>$14.29
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>>106615925
>buying kzog slop when sgor luna exists
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>>106616485
>luna
irrelevant when t10 exists
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>>106616450
>tuning recognized by masters
lol lmao
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>>106616443
just eq it
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https://youtu.be/ZRHwojeJCx0
https://www.amazon.com/TANCHJIM-Fola-Headphones-Instruments-Earphones/dp/B0FNRWGC6B

Tanchjim FOLA $199
OMG xixtas.... so many releases.... what's happening??
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>>106616902
waifu e-waste prints money
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>>106616902
1DD for $200
I assume at the very least it sounds like its price point and doesn't punch any higher.
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>>106616951
At $200 it should include a rebate to fuck an actual anime girl
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>>106616970
is that what you do?
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>>106617039
No, I'm not attractive enough and I'd just get papercuts.
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tfw back to 0 coins again
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>>106616902
>Oxygen to Origin: 5 years with Hana in between
>Origin +1 year: Fission, Force, Nora, Fola, Bunny, Zero... every single one with 'tanch house sound'
can someone explain logic behind shitting out Origin reskins with better cable and cheaper price? Origin already had good reviews being the best thing behind IE600 and Twilight
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>>106617050
aw don't sell yourself so short, bro. you could have it so much worse. you could be using eq for your pos
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>>106617127
I already bass boost my cheapies
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What does /iemg/ think of Audio Amigo's tier list? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zeby9PqsTmHMRQ3D3n5W_1Gx9aNPPK67yoBl_FXdaF4
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>>106617198
From that list I only had Explorer and I find it hard to comment on his rec. I despise that IEM wholeheartedly but I understand and respect his opinion knowing his full review.
Guy is good reviewer, probably on of the best right now, but narrowing all the nuances to single paragraph on list is not doing him justice.
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>>106617198
>putting PR2 in the "meh" category.
uncultured swine
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>pos good for X
>meanwhile nobody mentions album mixing and mastering that can make the same pos sound great or like shit even within single genre of music
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>>106617198
I have the Aful Explorer and it's my favorite set. So, this definitely has my attention. Maybe I should get the Softears Volume S since it's the only $200+ IEM on the same tier.
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>>106617126
>behind IE600
is this a joke?
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>>106617250
Are you listening to it at enough volume? You need to be at like 80 or 90 db for the Explorers to sound their best.
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>>106617376
Why would anyone want to permanently damage their hearing just to appreciate a particular piece of chink e-waste?
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>>106617126
>origin
>good
fell for it
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>>106616171
anon, that’s cute cope but hopefully you wont always be one of the poors and can enjoy endgame sonics like myself
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>>106617198
how the fuck is KE4 "the cheapest meta" when it should be daybreak?
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>>106617391
you literally don't know what you are talking about
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>>106617432
Obsoleted by $3 IEMs.
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>>106617447
I'm impressed you at least heard what I said over the constant EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE in your ears
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Greeting, /iemg/, Dr. Change here, Tanchjim's Master Tuner. AMA
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>>106617391
That's not how it works. Damage happens when you feel pain or ringing. Not because you turn up the volume on the slider. It's loud high frequencies that causes hearing damage.
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>>106617482
>Damage happens when you feel pain or ringing
>he doesn't know
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>>106617376
By this logic you should be blasting Rosemarys instead of wasting money on iems
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>>106617482
>smoking doesn't hurt you until you get the cancer diagnosis
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>>106617490
or he's not capable to hear it anymore
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When are you finally taking TWS pill?
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>>106617392
>>origin
>>good
Mhm
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>>106617534
My $0.10 TWSs are arriving some time next week. Will have to see if they convince me.
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>>106617534
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>>106617545
Forgot pic
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>>106617458
wow meanwhile in reality I’ll be enjoying state of the art sound thanks to Stax
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>>106617548
350?
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>>106617564
*state of the shart
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>>106617564
nobody cares about stax here, it's off topic. and stax iems are atrocious nightmare fuel anyway so, peace on out
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oops wrong pic
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>>106617490
>>106617496
>>106617503
It's the same total volume. One IEM has +10db in the treble, so you increase the volume of the Explorer by 10db to match it. Only difference is now you get more bass and mids too.
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>>106617554
Mangrid pos is better, I just dont trust BAs. The high freq treble peak on the origin is just 0/10 KZ material.
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>>106617615
You gave a specific, absolute loudness level to set the output volume at. Specifically 80-90 dB. That's a level at which prolonged exposure will begin causing hearing loss.
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>>106617582
huh?
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I heard the "tuned for X volume" cope but I prefer my EQs at every volume to everything else at every other volume. But I'm essentially listening from a 0.5V source(2V with -12dB preamp for more volume steps) so maybe I've never reached the real "loud" level.
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>>106617712
Could even be 0.125V if it's doing the "scale voltage with impedance" thing, didn't measure.
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>>106617642
>I don't trust BAs
>mangird is better
nigga what? that's a 711 measurement, nothing in the treble should be taken seriously. and why the FUCK would tanchjim use kz drivers when they make their own???
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>>106617458
>4chan archiveslop
It's not authentic until it's a Discord screenshot.
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>>106617784
The e-waste from the landfill all have the same distortion measurements but with different tuning, I don't know why some of you keep buying it.
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>>106617784
So for making me effortpost im gonna call you a man, a neverpasser, a troon, ok? Good.

Just because its a 711 measurement doesnt mean theres not a massive treble peak, see crins measurements on the other rig, its like 10db, also you didnt understand the KZ comment, you need to improve your english, cheers.
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>>106617784
>nothing in the treble should be taken seriously.
big resonances on a 711 won't sound dark for anyone, midwitzo
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>>106617671
>that's a level at which prolonged exposure will begin causing hearing loss.
those levels are not given for music
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>>106617836
take your meds nobody in interested in your retarded takes
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>>106617836
>all have the same distortion measurements
wrong. you niggas are braindead today, sheesh
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>>106617691
Why did you buy that pos...
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>>106617671
When you're thinking you're listening to 70db on your KZ it's actually 90db in the treble. So you know what I mean.
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>>106617836
unironically just for the challenge of measuring it and EQing it, it's like a reverse engineering project every time
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Cool BA hack: you can reduce their distortion by making them play nothing. Audiophiles will still hear them.
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Do any of you still listen to music or just consooom?
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>>106617975
Only real music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI4xnWEw_Wk
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>>106617991
Holy based
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>>106617975
I only EQ and tweak it every time a new insertion shifts the length modes, so just sine sweep for me
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>>106617839
The reading comprehension in this thread has been dangerously low, but I didn't consider the poorfags to be actual ESLs until you mentioned it.
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>>106617458
>dont use those foamy or rubber tip things for the iem
>listen to them bare
the SOUNDSTAGE HACK they DON'T want you to KNOW
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total floornigger victory
this is what you fools get for not respecting simzo
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Judging by the number of retards here, I'm starting to believe no-readerzo
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>>106617920
what’s wrong with Sony?
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>>106618258
Huh?
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>>106618285
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>>106618299
actually I’m listening to this right now
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>>106617534
I will probably buy the best between sony wf-1000xm6, apple airpods pro 3, and maybe samsung galaxy buds 4 pro if both are shit and I can be arsed to wait
mostly because I got ANCpilled after starting to use over ear headphones with it
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>>106617534
No.
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>>106617503
this but unironically
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>>106617975
My loop goes like this: Buy 1DD, measure, EQ, name profile, listen to 2-5 songs, post on iemg, put back in box, buy 1DD
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>>106618313
oops wrong pic, running the Buchla Music Easel through a Knas Moisturizer spring reverb to be clear
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>>106617569
s350t, yes.
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>>106618258
Btw any reccs on how to get into vintage Stax on a budget? I see quite a lot of older models popping up on my local marketplace like 404, 80, etc. After visiting a few conventions I got disappointed in the modern stuff mostly and currently use probably 35 year old Sennys inherited from my dad.
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>>106618313
>>106618403
that's a lot of mental illness huh
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>>106618518
And very little sound quality.
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>>106618494
here in the states it probably isn’t the best idea right now while all these tariffs are happening, but I had great luck finding deals buying secondhand Stax direct from Japan sites.
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>>106618518
nah, that’s a semi modular analog synth, uses vactrols instead of typical vca
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>>106618518
unless you meant the Knas? that’s just a spring reverb with exposed springs for manipulation etc, also has a nasty filter and most parameters can be modulated with cv
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>>106618544
This was not what I asked, also I am not from the states
Like is Stax 404 any good or not or maybe there are some vintage models I should keep an eye for
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>>106618602
only way you’ll know for sure is to listen for yourself, finding good deals usually means can turn around without losing any money
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Fission Black is the Origin if it was tamer. Absolutely enamored by it, I have not switched to anything else in the last few days.
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>7 months old Zero Red
>barely any use
>left driver became quieter
Wow, great product Turdear!
The 4U that I've been using daily for about a year still works perfectly.
Never again bunny slut.
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>>106618955
That's why I only buy from American companies like AFUL.
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>>106618628
I actually made money buying audio back in the day. Now China puts them out cheaper than I could possibly sell (shipping, fees, etc) and they keep lowering the price until it's literally $0. I'm actually losing money for the first time in over a decade, unless I hit the lottery b/c there's some idiot on ebay.

tldr The hobby went from profit to free.
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>>106618602
shooting myself in the foot here but watch ebay weekly for NB, signature, nova and sigma. 404 might be good if you could 3d print or whittle alternative earcups
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>>106619004 cont.d
If you make knockoff 4070s with donor drivers you're teleported to electrostat endgame
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>>106618955
Aww, cute little bunny! :3
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Thinking of getting the Tansio Mirai Armor. It's been getting some great reviews on Reddit lately.
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>>106619302
can you even hear anything over this bass?
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>>106619309
Apparently, yes. It has an EST driver for the treble. You can also run it with all the switches down and it becomes like a Sennheiser HD650.
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>>106619302
>>106619342
>toggleable nigger bass
hmmmm
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>>106619302
shill company that employs shill people to discuss their products. find unbiased customer reviews (hint: there will be virtually none, because they are incredibly niche insular brand that distributes free units to the 10 people who are willing to shill their products).
you seem to be a newfag or are just some moron wasting our time.
i don't see why you are posting those graphs with those targets and iems when clearly the armor is deviating significantly from both comparisons. if you want to buy some wild sounding dogshit, go ahead.
it's wild sounding dogshit that also looks ugly from a company with a poor reputation for functioning essentially as a pyramid scheme (they will regularly offer near 50% off their products to the right people, and still make a large margin of profit. meaning if you pay anywhere near full price, congrats you're the fool at the bottom of the pyramid scheme.)
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whatever newfaggot keeps bringing up audio amigo. cool, suck his dick and buy whatever he ranks highly. you don't need us if you trust him.
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>>106619469
>(they will regularly offer near 50% off their products to the right people, and still make a large margin of profit. meaning if you pay anywhere near full price, congrats you're the fool at the bottom of the pyramid scheme.)
But isn't this true for all companies? Even with branded Knowles or Sonion drivers it should cost like ten bucks to make a set that sells for $500.
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>>106617865
They're given for sounds
>>106617921
So you want me to turn up to 90dB so it's a literally ear-piercing 110dB in the treble for the Explorers to sound good?
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My favorite IEMs are still SR-001 and VX Pro+, everything else had earbud-tier instrument separation
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>>106619496
>They're given for sounds
Not all sounds are equal. 80-85 dB of music won't damage your ears.
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>>106619496
No because the Explorer stays at 90 due to its smooth pinna gain and treble. No peaks and valleys. Look at the graph.
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What is the blon-bl 03 equivalent of today
loved that earphone, too bad i lost it to patina
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>>106619554
no matter how smooth it is length mode is still there you know
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Why is QKZ x HBB so good bros
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>>106619733
you like bass
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does the 7HZ x Crinacle Zero: 2 need a dongle amp or will it run fine connected to a phone/laptop
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>>106619806
it will run fine
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>>106619806
You can just EQ more amplification
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>>106619806
depends on the phone/laptop but probably it'll run fine
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>check chifi news for the first time in months
>still no Lost Manor
>a new not!Origin out of nowhere
Wtf are you doing Tanch?
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How did I do?
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>right iem sounds like its rattling
>doesnt get louder with sound
>was worse on pc than on my phone but now i cant tell if its there anymore
IM GOING INSANE AAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>106620237
enjoy your pos
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>>106614779
Do you knowed the SE/SR variations existed?
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>>106620237
unironically the best purchase in the last 4 threads, good job
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>>106620237
I don't even know what the fuck sgor even is
I'd say stop being a hipster and just buy gate or bunny
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>>106620532
>stop being a hipster
>just buy gate or bunny
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>>106620557
That level of delusion is about right.
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>>106619302
Penon is getting desperate to clear stock, huh? Another AudioGeek[TM] completly unbiased frfr this time tour?
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Are the HiBy Yacht10 any good? Or "qlz" as the kids say?
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Any recent all BA pos other than Luna and Mystic8?
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settled on the moondrop mays for gaming, and the Wan'er 1 studio editions for when I sleep
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FiiO M21 or HiBy M300?
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>>106620532
>I don't even know what the fuck sgor even is
Why do you even post here?
Everybody knows the chifi brands here.
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>>106621951
Sgor is famous for resurrecting CRA for example.
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>>106619302
that's kinda neat but unfortunately other than disabling bass the switches are rather limited, seems like you can't lower the bass without boosting treble so your only choice is how v shaped you want it to be
and better keep your source low impedance or your skull is getting rattled to pieces
I'd buy it for $50 but not for $300
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>>106622085
Just buy Relentless for $70 and slap adapter on it
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>>106622106
huh
you know what? I actually might
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>>106622106
>$70
but wait, is there a sale somewhere or did you miss a 1? I see them for $170
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just went through the last three threads and bought a few $0 products as my first ever IEMs
surely what will happen is that I'll be forced to realize that my $700 planar headphones were never good and then I'll feel compelled to buy more
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>>106622156
I mean there are no sub $700 planar headphones that can compete with cheap 1DD IEMs(unless you got DCA Noire X second hand I guess) so... probably, yeah?
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>>106622143
They are quite powerhogs in this config. I maxed out DCE with just 25Ohm and it's nowhere near high volume.
>>106622151
They were main drop of ali lucky boxes earlier this year - going between $65-$100 even with taxes. If someone sells it secondhand, even unopened, you shouldn't pay more than $100.
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>>106622169
I've got Quad ERA-1 which has been my favorite thing for 4 years now. I don't bother mentioning it because anons are unlikely to have heard it, plus it's nowhere near harman
>I mean there are no sub $700 planar headphones that can compete with cheap 1DD IEMs
yeah, I don't find that impossible actually
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Waiting on my $0 Kinera Celest Rue, TRN ST7 and Sgor Venus order. I'll probably spend my new $10 vouchers on Sgor Luna after I get enough coins again. Can't argue with $0.
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>>106622244
Nta and shitposting aside but I sold my DCA RT for Hook X few years back. Now if we're talking planars I'm perfectly fine with S12Pro I got for $100.
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>he paid money for an IEM
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Tri clarion tips are good for soundstage, spring tips are good for treble resonances, avoid crinacle iems, redeem QKZ x HBB Reviewer™ Edition.
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>>106622630
crinacle won
wggar lost
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>>106622722
/hpg/ won, since all good iems got revised
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>like a mild/controlled v-shape
>like bass and sub-bass
>got the truthear gate thinking I would like sparkliness too
>it hurts my ears
How can people stand highs like this? I wanted clarity, not hifi nails on a chalkboard when anything high pitched is in the song.
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>>106623031
They are deaf from listening piglet voice anime osts and jav screams
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>>106622920
With QC like this who needs revisions.
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>>106623031
It is somewhat funny that the place where effectively all audio technology is currently coming from is also the region where the majority of the population has a gene that causes their ears to function completely different from that of every other race on earth.
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>>106622920
Stealth retunes are devilish. After recent RSV Jays discovery I'm afraid to pull the trigger on Twilight. I can understand some $10 kz pos but not this shit.
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>>106623379
>here is #1-2 recommended pos for vocals south $1k
>btw we retuned them so they don't do vocals so good anymore
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What's the price point where IEMs actually come with decent accessories? Salnotes Zeroes or KZs might be tuned well and sound good, but they come with shit cables and ear tips. I don't need some supreme premium feel, but give me a cable that doesn't feel like chinesium and doesn't bend out of shape, and ear tips/shape that are actually comfortable to wear.
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>>106623435
New KZ cheapshit cables have gotten much better and are now of acceptable quality.
The eartips are still shit, unless you invert them.
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>>106623435
some cheap iems got decent accessories. TRN Conch got nice cable, tips and even replaceable filters. Wanker 2 got sancai tips and ok-ish cable.
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>>106613026
Are there any distortion measurements of the QKZ x HBB?
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>>106623435
How much is Dunu Titan?
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this pos got a big-ass box for no reason whatsoever
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>>106623616
hades is a pretty nice pos overall. however if you want a real bass cannon, consider getting lafitear lf3pro
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>>106623110
hey, leave my piglet voice anime osts and jav screams out of this, I agree with you, but they're fine on anything but the Gates.

>>106623134
Is that even true? I know their genetics is completely different for some stuff but I didn't think their hearing had anything to do with it.
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>>106623444
Literally just got a pair of ZSN Pro Xs, and the cable is shit in my opinion. I mean, maybe it's comparatively better than it used to be, idk, and it's probably decently durable, but it's just plasticky and bends out of shape.
>unless you invert them.
huh?
>>106623498
A bit over $50. The EPZ Q1 Pros are around $35 and I think that's an accessories package that passes the bar: nice cable, comfortable eartips, and a simple carry pouch.
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>Foxzo posts his IEMs every thread
>Still have no idea what they are
>don't even know if the Dildo graph is actually his
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Best IEM for piglet voice anime OSTs and JAV screams?
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>>106623792
stop giving them attention
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>>106623625
lf3pro was one of my firsts and it spoiled me ngl
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>>106622630
You can just EQ different eartips.
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>>106623435
KZ foam tips are good enough to use in other IEMs, the cables that came with my planars are good too. It's like getting a good cable and eartips for free, and it even comes with a free IEM.
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>>106623929
KZ foam tips don't last for shit, why are you praising them?
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>>106623942
how many other foam tips have you used? none of them last
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What is Leteciel's even about man.
Anyway the Leteciel Cookie, Leteciel competitor to the Space Travel featuring a 13mm lcp dd unit tuned to ACG music. Battery is rated for about 6 hours with the case hold 4.285 full charge.
Support AAC, SBC, with dual mic ANC and ENC, plus transparent mode, game mode and music mode, the Cookie is available for the price of 139 cny, or 20$
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>>106623942
I got them last month. If it wears out I'll order another PR2 for $0.
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>>106623962
>tuned to ACG music
what does it mean?
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>>106623974
cheers
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>>106623978
("Animation, Comics, and Games") aka female poison boost
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>>106623999
mental illness
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>>106622245
Just noticed my screenshot shows I'm eyeing a HE6 kek, I'll probably grab that in a couple months
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>>106623999
but women (not you) don't buy IEMs
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>>106623792
They are endgame.
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>>106624090
>>106624047
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>>106623822
Anon, I assure you, this matters way less than you think

>>106624090
incomprehensible, have a nice day
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True endgame >>106600135
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>>106623903
Not at all man
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>>106624144
I simply used better seal FR as a target for my shit eartips, EQ'd and problem solved.
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>>106624143
Obsoleted by fox DAC.
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>>106623929
>>106623942
Foam tips are really mostly just for stage musicians, where they offer much better sound isolation and you can just throw the monthly replacement into costs. I'll be trying out the hybrid tips some anon recommended to see if they're comfy/sound isolating/durable.
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>>106624238
>Foam tips are really mostly just for stage musicians
says who?
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Foam tips are for those coping with dogshit fit or dogshit treble of their "good" IEMs.
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>>106624325
PR2 is the best IEM $0 can buy.
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>>106624354
Case in point: both.
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Direct vocal centric upgrade to Origin and D62? Meteors? Variations?
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Best pos for ACG music?
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>>106623962
>XXX
Blue board, anon.
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>>106624433
What's your budget? $0 or >$0? Asking because my wife's boyfriend's son's mother needs to know.
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>>106624065
Trvke'd
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I like dark and bright IEMs for different reasons/music but I can't stand bright full size headphones. Dark almost always has better positioning and separation. Bright eliminates the distractions and smoothness, and is more forgiving on new-ish music that's mostly center.
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>>106624907
that's like.. your opinion, man
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>>106625037
It depends on which part of the audio spectrum I want to be spoonfed, yeah.
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>>106625059
>dark has better positioning and separation
>newish music is mostly center
you've been spoon fed a lot.
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>>106625094
It's 1DD owner projection on your part, but you could just EQ more soundstage.
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>>106625377



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