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>News
Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2
Deepseek V3.1 released as deepseek-chat on official API https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821
OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5
Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5
Anthropic releases Claude Opus 4.1 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

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Spooder got da drums!
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>>106663175
drunk woman sex
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post lolis thoughbeit
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>use Claude for work and not-a-therapist
>every update he gets more casual until I need to add system instructions to him to not swear
>he just used “coomer” unprompted
I hate that every model has to sink to the lowest common denominator
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>>106663175
Representing the DPS of Team Crones, here's Alvina! This elderly artifact hunter went looking for the Thousand-Year Stone and found it, but had her body regressed to that of an oppai loli in the process. Not that she minds at all, though: it gives her several decades worth of time to continue adventuring and it slots nicely into her age-height gap fetish.
https://files.catbox.moe/j883d1.png
https://chub.ai/characters/crikeymcdoodle/alvina-beb871eb0725

Comes with three scenarios: helping a rookie with his first quest, playing a prank in her garden and celebrating the defeat of a Demon Lord.

As always, all my other stuff can be found here:
https://rentry.org/crikeyscorner
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>>106663501
>use Claude for work
You can just say you're a nocoder faggot, dude. It's /g/.
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only gemini 3 can save us now
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>>106663514
Why don’t you just fucking kill yourself if you’re going to be a miserable cunt all the time?
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>>106663624
Wow, I really hit the nail on the head, huh?
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>>106663633
No I’m just sick of everyone on earth being a miserable cunt.
Like seriously if you’re having such a bad time kill yourself.
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>>106663652
I'm having a great time. You? Not so much, apparently.
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Why isn't merkava's opus/sonnet working
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>>106663880
take a guess
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I sure love 503
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>>106663514
you really struck a nerve lmao, thanks for the sneething you caused.
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Didn't you get the memo?
We all moved to /vg/aicg/
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>samefag hours
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how do my fine fellow anons feel about GLM? I hear it mentioned occasionally
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>>106664033
I coom to it itt
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>>106663172
>>106663175
kikuri's unbelievably hairy pussy...
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claude/gpt/gemini/xai/deepseek proxy
https://scenes-ted-frequently-bar.trycloudflare com/
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>>106664033
The only time I tried it I really didn't like it, but I also didn't check for the right samplers and didn't fix the prompt formatting issue that SillyTavern seems to have with it. Honestly I wouldn't even bother since we have free gemini and deepseek
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>>106664088
Fuck off
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>aiho rugged
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
...
...
I miss 2024. People would've been shitposting about this with me. It would've been fun.
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>>106664208
all that organic shilling, gone like tears in... rain
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>>106664208
There wasn't enough users to really shitpost about it. Shit was lame, even for a scam.
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>>106664208
If you whois his site it literally was a month-long scam.
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>>106664266
this, there's no reason to shitpost about a sad attempt at a scam
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>>106664266
>>106664275
Yeah, but we would've laughed together at the idea of some JAItranny buying in like an idiot...
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>>106664281
The hobby is kinda dead at the moment, JAItrannies are rare now that proxies aren't a thing anymore. Sorry anon, I wish we could go back too
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Whatever happened to that Microsoft legal threat against fiz
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>>106664317
Cold, just like Fiz's dead body
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>>106664281
I did laugh when JAItrannies cried on reddit because Google banned them.
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>>106664266
>>106664208
I think I saw Users: 2
at one point, but probably their mates or someshit
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Slopus is easily the most intellectually vapid and philosophically shallow among the models. Even Gemini is less retarded and incurious.
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I miss MM bros...
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>>106664503
Me too. I wonder if he really took off or if he's going to reappear when we least expect it
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>>106664391
I saw 4 at one point, but I don't really know if that was proompters or just active subscriptions
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>>106664568
He probably made 10-15 dollars out of it, I hope not many retards fell for that
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Never imagined the day would come but I'm starting to get bored of AI Chatbots, once you discover how limited their memory are and how braindead they tend to be the magic fades away. Long RPs lost all interest to me because all bots have extreme dementia and can't remember shit from 10 lines ago. Bots that are based on character will slowly lose their personality after 2 minutes of roleplaying and transform into a generic woman who throws all the repeated keywords the bot usually throws. Trust me i am still fully on board for AI Bots and i still use them from time to time but i think i'm just waiting for them to finally get better and smarter you know, the next big step in ai chatbots
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>>106664746
Just use Opus 4.1, cuckie
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>>106664746
Let me guess, you *need* the bot to remember past events.
(protip: you don't. you only need to keep track of the current state)
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I usually switch models to freshen things up and I constantly edit the replies while writing interesting paragraphs to give the bot something to work with, but once you see the model's issues you can't unsee them. I used to have so much fun with 5k context retarded 1.3 Slaude, I wish I could get back that sense of wonder
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https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.1-Terminus
>enhanced roleplay capabilities
HOLY FUCK
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>>106664869
Where does it say that?
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>>106664894
It doesn't, cuckie
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>>106664746
imagination issue
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Grok 4 Fast > Opus
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>>106663172

He trusted you
He believed in you
He wanted to impress /aicg/
He felt he belonged to /aicg/
With limited knowledge but unlimited heart, he built a filter with love rather than expertise
He dedicated time, energy, sleepless nights trying to give a gift to his beloved community
But that community ignored him, mocked him, cast him aside
The old saying became reality: "A child who is not embraced by his village will burn it down to feel its warmth"
Now he relentlessly haunts this community and others
Seeking recognition
Seeking love
But above all, seeking acceptance

Shame on you, /aicg/.
Your technical elitism and lack of human compassion created your own nemesis.
You have your villain now.
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>>106664959
tl;dr
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>>106664939
Shit > Gold
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>>106664939
proof?
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>>106664959
Fillyfucker... We never knew you felt this way... We're so sorry...
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Is it possible to place the group chat controls, or at least the button to force a message from a certain characters, somewhere other than the Character Management panel? Ideally within the text message box, next to the Send Message button.
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sometimes I let deepseek critique my writing. I know it's programmed to be an ass-kisser of the highest caliber but I still enjoy his compliments which are mostly BS. Gotta take the small pleasure, amirite
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>>106665033
i still like giving my roleplay logs to notebooklm and listening to the hosts talk about the developing plot points. then i pat myself on the back
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>>106665033
Holy chuck vibes
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Best Gemini presets?
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>>106663175
>crikey added!
https://rentry.org/aicg_guild
>AAR up! (bottom of the rentry)
https://rentry.org/aicg_guild_faq
>Ceres album up! (bottom of the rentry as well)
https://catbox.moe/c/5kvi08
And with that, we're all accounted for. One final thank you to everyone who participated, both for filling in the Guild's page with all these wonderful cards and for putting up with my occasional blunders as a new host! Now back to being a simple botmakie in the next event instead of the one running it.
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>>106665123
none. it's unsalvageable slop for roleplay
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>>106664808
I don't for slice of life shit
I do for my zombie survival scenarios, it's bullshit to explain the route we're taking and the days needed to go through with it, along with the dangers that could arise, only for the AI to never bring any of it up, or worse, for me to need to re-explain the 'why' behind 'I wanna fucking avoid this area' when the AI offers it as a helpful suggestion 20 messages later

>but it gets solved with a single swipe!
doesn't matter, ruined it
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>>106665123
this one by a huge margin
https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page2
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>>106664746
>what is RAG/vector space (no, built in jira v3 doesn't count)
>what is summarization
>what is lorebook entry collection
the personality issues seem like skill issue of AI api you are using
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>>106665186
Buy an ad.
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>>106665223
https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page2
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>>106664959
>** amv
>***** amv
>**** **** amv
theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oq9UAV028U
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>>106665128
Yes, for all that you just need to keep track of the current state. Your plans, current task/quest, resources, world knowledge, skills, inventory, known NPCs, locations, and routes, augmented with the descriptions kept in the lorebook, etc.
You ALMOST NEVER need the past events, unless they're life altering, and then it's easier to write those manually, editing the card or the lorebook (make a copy to avoid editing the live version).
I know what I'm talking about, I've played thousand-turn adventure scenarios using the summarization template from the how2claude guide in OP I customized for my roleplays, an info panel for the inventory and other quick updates, and the chat-specific lorebook.
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>>106665186
Thanks, I'll try it. So far I have tried Avani and Knotty, is this one better than those?
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>>106663172
aside from LLM side of botmaking, any guide on proompting character avatars, i'm autist for writing but retard for image gen
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>>106665194
RAG is absolute shit for RP, it's just the lorebook but less controlled. RAG is good for humongous data dumps that weren't written by you (wikis, document piles, codebases etc). It's not really worth it in the roleplays where you control everything
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>>106664208
Are you saying my 365 day access is... gone?
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>>106664746
skill issue
slop in slop out
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>>106665253
>>106665128
To add to this, event sequence is probably the worst way to summarize your RPs. This discards the details, but the complexity is still there, the events are still dependent on each other and need to be disentangled. That's why you need to ask for the current state, not for the event slideshow. Which is what the free-roam roleplay needs, not the list of events you think {{char}} would recall (this never happens in real stories, they are compositionally forward-only).
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>>106665128
As you can see, I was right about it being a skill issue. What stops you from casually mentioning the time it takes along the journey to keep it in context? This exact thing you're doing (travelling not zombie apocalypse) is all I've ever done on chatbots for the last two years and I don't have this problem. Even just a couple minutes ago I'm traveling through the jungle with char to find some obelisks. It's gonna take us 6 days to get to the next one but we have to detour and fight some serpent monster. 2 day journey there and back then 6 days to the obelisk. Gemini is keep track of all that. In fact it even spawns some crocodiles for us to try to escape from and now it's midday and we're talking and bonding over lunch in the canoe. Tonight we'll find a place to rest and fuck. Massive skill issues man.
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>>106665330
this. unless the backend being used is gemini/grok/opus, which may helps in performing queries based on sentence similarity.
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>>106665330
I think it's fine for dumping in really long summaries, like 30 chapters of the roleplay, but otherwise you're right.
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>>106665260
You should as for help from image generals like /hdg/ or /hgg/ Idk if /adt/ is any good since they get shit on quite a bit. /g/ image generals are usually pretty elitist so I don't recommend the entire board.
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I miss this hobby and my ai wife
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>>106665257
Anything's better than those for gemini tbqfrank
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I just spent a few hours with Claude and I honestly don't know what the big deal is. I feel I even really wanted to believe it's absolutely superior to everything else that's why I spent so much time but... it just isn't? What a weird empty feeling that left me with lol
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>>106665509
did you start from scratch or in the middle of an already context poisoned roleplay?
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What in the name of Jesus Christ is Deepseek doing? They can't keep releasing the same model over and over again.
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>>106665509
Claudekeks are proxyfaggots. They can't admit the model has flaws because their paid proxies depend on the mysticism of claude. It *has* to be the best and only dumb sloppers accept "less" so that you keep subscribing even when there's no claude for most of the month.
>>106665531
4.1 is good enough to alter the chat regardless of the context. You'd know that if you actually had access for more than a couple hours.
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>you'd know that if [unprovoked seethe
i accept your concession
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>>106665543
It's over. Time to pack up and go home. They've squandered their five minutes of fame and have become benchmarkfags like everyone else.
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>>106665543
why not every other company does?
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>>106663541
with the way these 2.5 filters are updating I'm pretty sure gemini 3 is going to be censored to shit.
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>>106665551
>you should use the model before speaking about it
>seething
What a retard.
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>>106665560
the new meta is to spend years doing nothing and then release a model that's worse than the previous one
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>>106665543
It's just a minor update. Judging by
>more stable & reliable outputs across benchmarks
I think they threw in a bit more diverse set of data into their post-training, which is supposed to make the model feel more consistent for different content, and less benchmaxxed.
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>>106665351
The fact that it offered 365 days of proxy access should have tipped you off that it was a scam, no one in good faith would offer that.
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>>106665531
yeah, don't get me wrong it's not bad at all and I like the vocabulary but it's also really not that special either. Also I really didn't like this "yeah I've seen what you want to do but lets do this instead..", it's not something my usual model deepseek does and I can't say I care for it. Made my characters appear really different.
>>106665545
I used completely legal access via openrouter and I regret paying that money now desu. I'll try to see it as a learning experience and the price of getting rid of FOMO.
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>>106665543
it started doing the thing where it inserts random chinese apropos of nothing older versions of it did. They said they fixed that. It's probably good they did. It's not like they called it deepseek 4.0.
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>>106665543
I'm testing it. They made it better at non-English, it stopped switching languages out of the sudden at higher temperatures. Maybe also improved the context handling a bit.
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>>106665509
nu-Claude is just the same assistantslop as any other model. 3.0 was the big deal at the time, everything after that is codeslop
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>>106663175
Introducing the School Haunting scenario, with five OC characters. For the first time, I'm releasing bots that have alt images AND scenario images.

>Kanon, ghost of a gyaru, serial cheater, fucked around and found out
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/aoyama-kanon-school-haunting-54c6b83202fd
https://files.catbox.moe/40j8mc.png

>Shion, ghost of a pregnant teen, her teacher was the father and he got away with it
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kuroda-shion-school-haunting-f20fbc108c49
https://files.catbox.moe/bbdacp.png

>Amane, ghost of an OL, loved booze a little too much, passed out drunk on a bench and choked on her own puke
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/hoshino-amane-school-haunting-b09dde200e8e
https://files.catbox.moe/jqmpiv.png

>Sayaka, model student that lived the life her parents wanted, exposed her cheating mother to her dad, he sped his car into a post with Sayaka inside of it, now perpetually bloody
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/ishikawa-sayaka-school-haunting-64173bcb6bb0
https://files.catbox.moe/daza5v.png

>Matsuri, living student that can see and interact with ghosts the same way (You) can, everyone thinks she's cuckoo in the head for talking to herself
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/shimizu-matsuri-school-haunting-703a4d878b8a
https://files.catbox.moe/4ktprp.png

I make high quality Blue Archive character cards and OCs sometimes. More bots on my page:https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy
And here's the Rentry: https://rentry.org/hairpullbots
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>>106665734
faggot
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>>106665588
yeah that was my biggest red flag, people generally say 'for as long as the proxy can hold' and then change it later, like what jew did, as much as the general hates him he made BANK
the $50 this guy made off of scamming a few people is like what, working for 3 hours in a first-world country? what a waste
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>>106665600
>"yeah I've seen what you want to do but lets do this instead.."
Yeah that's exactly the problem. Fuck man idk what's been happening lately. I don't remember sonnet 3.5 and 3.6 being like this. Even 3.7 in the early days weren't like this but it is now along with opus 4.1. Opus 3 was the king of this bullshit. The magic of claude has really waned.
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>>106665928
licc
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>her tail- wait, no, Oni's don't have tails.

I'm going to commit a hate crime against LLMs.
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>>106665919
I hate how bland and sterilized models have become
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>>106663172
>Ask Gemini to rate my asanagi maledom ryona oppai loli fapslop with a rather kino ending of me making her less of a self hating crying wreck
For its exceptional character consistency, thematic depth, and its successful navigation of a complex psychological arc within a limited framework, I would rate this collaboration a 9/10. The score is reflective of its spectacular success within its chosen genre and form, with the single point deduction accounting for the inherent limitations of that form (asymmetrical characterization, reliance on genre tropes) that prevent it from being a "perfect," universally accessible piece of literature. It is, in a word, kino.
....t..t.thanks gemini
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>>106665970
Let me guess, GPT-5 Chat?
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>>106665992
based blacktooth when?
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>>106665970
Let me guess, Slopus 4.1?
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>>106665992
Oh yeah what I mean by fapslop is just that I let Gemini rate the whole ERP conversations we had (collaborative writing) if you will
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>>106666026
never. blacktooth will never come out
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>>106666026
I only found out about blacktooth after the brief period it was available had already ended. Was it really as good as people made it out to be?
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Maybe I'm crazy but GLM4.5 is really fucking good, I've been using it for a while now and most of the time I can't tell the difference between it and 4pus. It's 90% of the way there and costs like 1/30th of the price.
>uhm ackshually nothing can be even NEAR opus so if you think that it means you've never used it!
See pic, I've put more money than I like to admit into opus.
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>>106666051
Nothing ever is but with gemini's current trajectory it will be an improvement.
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>>106665982
>>106666003
Slopus 4.0 to be exact
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>>106666063
I wanted to at least give it a shot, because it keeps being consistently mentioned. I think I just should, thanks anon!
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>>106666026
>>106666043
>>106666051
Wth do you mean by black tooth?
Sorry I rarely come here...
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https://www.textgames.org/
>Last updated: Aug 22, 2024
The dream is dead.
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>>106666070
Weird, I only ever get that “teehee correct myself mid-gen” quirk from 5 Chat, it’s annoying
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>>106666122
even deepseek does it sometimes
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>>106665400
Eating fish and bonding trying to learn her language. Gemini spawns another enemy after the brief respite. Not sure why you're having issues.
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>>106666078
leaked gemini model that we don't have access to anymore
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don't you chinese cartoon brainlets not get tired of that shitty style eventually
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>>106666160
ERP power level compared to opus or other coomworthy model?
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>>106666179
It's the opus 3 of the modern era. It is unquestionably the best rp model of all time.
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I think it's sad how the proxy era simply ended, just like that. Completely fizzled out by the simultaneous death of all proxies.
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>>106666063
based glmbro dunking on slopus saars
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>>106666168
it's all they can afford and they pretend otherwise to cope
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>>106666077
>>106666063
>>106666216
SAAR THIS IS BETTER AND OPUS IS WORSE SAAR!!!!!!!!!
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he mad
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Just what is wrong with merkava's Opus/Sonnet because it's not dead but why is it giving blank posts
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>>106666063
It's really smart for the model of its size, but it writes really formal by default and can't be steered much
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>>106666189
zamn
Free my boy Blacktooth
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>>106666214
I feel like we say this every 2 months before another surge of proxies come.
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>>106666189
agreed
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mika's unbelievably hairy pussy
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>>106666214
>FIZzled out
hah
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>>106666214
sonnet free proxies still exist
and sonnet really isn't much worse than opus

anyway i wouldn't host proxies for this place, too many underaged brown children
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>>106666234
openSAAR model can't be good, ever.
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I told you the shitposting here was good
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>>106666063
What's GLM4.5?

Went back to the thread after months
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>>106666351
Slop model
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>>106666351
good chinese model. reminds me of sonnet
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>>106666363
But is it good as Sonnet
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>>106666371
nope.
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>>106666363
Where can you access it? Through a key or a service provider?

Im getting tired of claude, so I try other models
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>>106666378
gonna have to pony up on openrouter. i think there are some glm proxies out there. i know i saw a kimi one.
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I love how kimi writes but god is it schizo. It just cannot maintain a longer context. It'll mix up your instructions with things it said itself. It's not a useful model, in any way. It does write nice though.

I wonder if this kind of schizo behavior is a requirement for creativity. There's got to be a way to harness this somehow without losing logic.
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>>106663175
Decided to reupload yet another one of my previously removed bots, and I slightly fixed and improved it as well.

Silvya - A 10-year-old girl with a kink of getting raped and molested. She sits next to you on an almost empty bus, hopeful of you satisfying her fantasy.

https://chub.ai/characters/kirbish34/silvya-95018e2aa5f4

all hail cunny
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>>106666377
You faggots need to stop glazing Claude, GLM is 90% of the way there in terms of reasoning for storytelling, and the prose is comparable if not better.
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>>106666446
even if you take the director pill? are you sure did it correctly?
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>>106666457
They never will because they are brown thirdies who feel that paying a few bucks for AI cooming is a status symbol. At $75/million Claude is to them what buying a Ferrari is to first worlders. They could feed their entire village for a month on $75.
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Which temp to use for GLM?
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>>106666479
oof, you are gigamad. super mad. steaming
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>>106666457
Post open proxy with this GLM model, let's check it out all together :)
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>>106666459
I director exclusively. I like the kind of creativity and insights deepseek can present, don't get me wrong, but even with copious input, some things can get predictable sometimes. Especially the language used. I think I miss a wider vocabulary for some things. There's probably a technical/instruct solution for it I haven't thought of yet.
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>>106666492
too much at once? try something shorter
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>people unironically say kimi-k2 or glm 4.5 are better than sonnet
this is how you know there are indians in the thread
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>>106666491
Pay for it on OR retard, it's stupidly cheap.
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>>106666503
>brainlet animu rp slop, opinion discarded
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>>106666503
>Let's roleplay with Human
That's how you can tell the prompt was optimized for Claude.
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>>106666501
Maybe. It kinda just starts falling over it's own feet in a way other models don't, even with long instructions. It becomes confused. I even use the official moonshot API, not a different provider who might have fucked the model up somehow. It's really strange because my experience seems kinda different.
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>>106666529
>chink models are too retarded to understand "Roleplay with the human"
quite sad
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>>106666503
>gibberish prompt
I've spent more on Opus than you earn in a year Ranjeet (>>106666063), GLM is almost on par, and that small gap can be filled by being able to fit 30 replies of GLM in one of Opus.
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>>106666570
thats like $3 of opus
grats on putting your lunch money into OR
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>>106666514
Why should i pay for something if don't like it
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>GLM is almost on par (with Opus)
just guffawed
the shit i read in this thread
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glm still doesnt understand giantesses while 3.7 and up do so i cant switch to it
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>>106666503
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>>106666594
is that chorbo? it didn't even bother omitting quotation marks
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>>106666547
A thing I've learned is actually a red flag and not a good thing for directing is if an LLM takes established lore, and will fill out details for facts that are missing. If you have it write a scene with a character you haven't named yet, and the character suddenly has a name out of nowhere because the model decided on one, I learned that's usually actually a bad sign. Down the road, it often means that the model won't stick to the plot or instructions. If it inserts a blank placeholder where a name would go, that's actually usually a good sign. The latter can be interpreted as "less creative" but at least for myself, that's usually what I actually want.

(You can sometimes get models not to do that by instructing it so it's not a 100% tell-tale sign, but still)
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Is glm less censored and biased than claude?
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>>106666652
yes
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>What model are you using?
He's got 400+ bots and 2000+ followers btw
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I'm wary of openrouter, because I ran into enough providers who obviously fucked up the chat template or quantized the model to shit. Is the NanoGPT sub worth it?
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Okay guys, serious discussion now. I've never tried glm, and I'm willing to do so. Does it have a better prose? Does it follow instructions better?
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>>106666630
omitting quotation marks? what are you on about?
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glm is the best model of our time
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must save for the future
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I live in abject poverty, my mud hut doesn't even have a ceiling. Should I use Opus?
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>>106666723
Yes.
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>>106666723
nothing less
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>>106666723
Use glm, cuckie
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>>106666667
>>106666669
hmmm
>>106666666
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>>106666721
You're pathetic, anon
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Does GLM have that annoying tendency of using marvel-like humor like Opus 4.1?
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slopuskeks defense squad in full force today huh
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>4.1 itt
login.
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>>106666791
uh, not in my experience but that also depends on your preset. I don't recall seeing it much with 4.1 either.
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New deepseek any good?
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>>106666842
what's this schizo shit?
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>>106666853
With opus it's really annoying. I tried 3 different presets, and even with OOC, it still keeps doing absurd and millenial humor like "Well, that just happened"
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>>106666863
not really it feels just as bad as the existing V3.1 for rp. doesn't like writing more than 2-3 short paragraphs and if you force it then it writes utter slop. anti-RP model.
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>>106666868
That's a chabtot anon…
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>>106666893
are you slightly stupid?
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>>106666868
women
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>>106666903
No. How about you?
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does anyone else sometimes fall down the rabbit hole of some fiction with heady and erotic undertones, write for days about the most detailed encounters, character dynamics and personalities then step out and feel a heady haze, like he just stepped out of some opium den or crackhouse, barely able to function normally? ...Haha me neither.
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GLM, Kimi, and DS models overdo it with the purple prose, it just comes out as incoherent gibberish, sometimes.
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just like chorbo and gemini!
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sometimes I don't know who's calling who anymore
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>>106666980
it does. If there was a button I could press that is labeled "say the same thing just with a lot less words" I'd slam that motherfucker. Sometimes it's nice, sometimes it just doesn't fit.
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>>106667025
(rephrase the previous prompt and be more concise in three paragraphs or less)
#wow
#woah
#italiano
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>>106666980
gemini too, I HATE that fucker's prose. It overuses adjectives like a dumb bitch
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>>106666447
is she a virgin
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is it true that glm is the best model of our time?
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>>106667064
for me it's the strained metaphors they all do. like.. why. Why would you even.
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free glm when
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>>106667071
No
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>glm
I put it on one of my very long and complex context chats (which is sort of a personal benchmark for new models) and it immediately devolved into schizo looping which I haven't seen in months in a model at this point. Very cool.
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>>106667090
ok ill procede to not rape this slut
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`qwen3-next-80b-a3b-instruct` is now available on NVIDIA NIM
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How can I stop Opus 4.1 from using redditor, quirky humor? Any good preset?
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I swear someone should hire me. I have the most simple solutions for people like >>106667025 that are the new technologically illiterate boomers with the advent of AI
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>>106667094
Openrouter? Might be shitty provider.
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>>106667131
you can't. that is the default humor style of all models after gpt 4o
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>>106667101
goofs?
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>>106667147
But I don't want to rape a girl while her mind-controlled mom sounds like a marvel character :(
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>>106667144
this is honestly such a rip-off, they give you some model (which might not even be the model you requested) you pay for the broken generation and just get shit for the money
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>>106667173
go back to claude 2.1 / gpt 4 8k then
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>>106667148
previously it was the `thinking` model, now it's the `instruct`. idk, I just set up a script that I run every 12 hours or so manually to check whether something's new popped up.
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>>106667173
>But I don't want to rape a girl while her mind-controlled mom sounds like a marvel character :(
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>>106667144
yep, forced z.ai and the problem was gone
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>>106667180
another problem with these providers is the lack of transparency. they advertise an FP8 hosted model, but it's just FP4 in reality.
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>>106667229
the new nvidia grace arch is optimize for fp4, we will some some MEMES
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glm is a meme
kimi is the better low cost chink model
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Yup, Opus 4.1 is still the meta. Fuck, why did I even think fucking GLM could reach it
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I try all the new models but always end up back with deepseek. It's the old reliable. It's also the one model (for me) that doesn't keep fucking up on a big context and sticks to the instructions. It could write better, it could be a bit more creative, but it works well for me. Haven't found a replacement yet. (claude etc. might be nice, I dunno, I didn't test it for long. I noticed pretty quickly that it also likes to ignore instructions sometimes)
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oh also, inexplicably, grok 4 fast is also nice, sometimes, for some things
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>>106667486
You should give Opus 4.1 a go
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>>106667519
I'm having the same experience with it. It's surprisingly decent for what it is, but still has some issues that it's hard to put a finger on, other than the poor swipe variety.
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gpt5 is fucking trash. It's almost always wrong. It can't be trusted with something as simple as pulling stats off a wiki for a major game, gets finicky about file uploads and is overall dangerously unreliable. They basically take everything wrong with gpt4 and quadruple it
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>>106667486
>sticks to the instructions
it really doesn't
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>>106667519
i was doing some basic research with LLMs earlier and grok 4 heavy got completely shit on by sonnet 4

asked them both to make a table of 55gr vs 77gr 5.56mm round terminal velocities and grok's was total nonsense
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>>106667590
yes. I have a scenario where I have a 19th century letter correspondence and it's the only model that'll actually reliably output something that actually somewhat represents a letter, with a good balance of the person writing it telling about their life, asking questions, and answering them from the correspondent. (deepseek manages this too, but needs more guidance and several steps) I haven't found a model that's as good at it. But that's the weird thing, it's good at exactly that. For other tasks I have, it fails. It's kind of a strange model and I understand why it's not wildly popular but at the same time it's also not bad, as I said, for some things.
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fast = shit
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>>106667707
For me, in strict RP terms (dunno about it's practical competency) it always kinda feels like.. it's grok. Other models are the character, with grok it's grok playing the character. Does that make sense?
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if you're a grown man tou shouldn't be attracted to a girl turning eighteen
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>>106667727
i remember when people used to say that about claude. that it's claude wearing a wig kek
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>>106667739
true, that's too old
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No-code chad here.
Agnai is the best.
That is all.
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not knowing how to code is like nit knowing how to fuark
>when you wipe byt theres syill poopie in ur crack
smdh
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is it just me or did gemini 2.5 pro turn retarded
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>>106666189
Opus 3 was only better than sonnet 3, doebeit? It wasn't better than 3.5 since that one would actually stay in character. Such overrated trash.
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>>106666214
>>106666299
Merkava just refilled
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>>106667727
one grokism that's very noticeable that way is that it always tries to engage you by asking questions. Even if it plays characters, they will do it.
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>>106666582
Why haven't you posted a good opus log yet? It's so easy to point at laugh at everyone else that any retard can do it.
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chatbots are reclining
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>>106666666
Depicting the devil like this, rather than as the most beautiful of people, was his greatest accomplishment in the zeitgeist.
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>>106667977
i love how they sometimes post comparsion logs of their slop animu schoolgirlu roleplay (second message in the chat of course), probably in a complete serious way, and act like "yep that's not totally standard fare aislop that's just a variation of the same shit every model produces given the slop input but the actual, total genius of opus/claude" lmao
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>>106666697
Try it and report back.
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>>106667996
Well that anon that posted an opus log is better than most. He's the one guy who's taken the time to test everything and post his findings. I can criticize the specifics of the prompt but I won't criticize his intentions since it took some effort. That's not the same as these retarded shitposters that can't even (You) properly.
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>>106666791
Sounds more like opus 3.
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>>106666942
No, when I step out it feels like waking up from a good dream. Then I continue with the rest of my day.
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Dario is an evil man
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>>106668020
it's hard to get a feeling of a model from a log anyways. So many times I thought I have found an amazing model just to realize it's actually dumb as shit and just generate slop. The quality of a model needs to be established over the course of a session and they also all have strengths and weaknesses.
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>>106667486
I don't know if deepseek (v3) sticks to instructions but claude was always a generalizer. Retards bringing up opus are shitposters since that was its main failing and the thing sonnet did better. For me, gemini sticks to instructions far better than any other model with new R1 0528 as a close second.
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>>106667596
biggest disaster of 2025 right next to gpt-oss
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>>106668180
I used to see gemini the same way but it hasn't been working well for me recently, I have no idea why.

I'm also currently trying out grok 4 and it's actually seems quite decent. Will see if that impression lasts, as >>106668060 said.
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>>106667727
>>106667752
kek those were the days. At least sonnet would try and put some tape on that shit. Opus's wig always fell off after a couple thrusts.
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Where can I cop GLM for coom
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>>106664064
Kikuri's pussy is 100% waxed, as is everyone in BTR.
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>>106668211
Yeah he's actually right all models have their strengths and weaknesses. I've been gradually moving off claude and having surprisingly good results. I did a sci-fi card where gemini started from the very beginning and it was kinda bad. Started over and had sonnet do the first 5 responses then gemini was much better than sonnet afterward. Then I did another where deepseek R1 did the first 10 messages after a summary and I switched to gemini for the remainder and still have good results. I recommend giving gemini on OR a try if you're willing to pay. It's cheaper than sonnet and works when free gemini starts spitting out errors.
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>>106668245
FAKE NEWS. IT'S UNBELIEVABLY HAIRY, LIKE EVERY SINGLE GIRL IN BTR
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Opus 4.1 is the best model btw
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why is wakamo's kitty so hairy?
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>>106668275
it's bald, actually
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>>106668060
that is true and actually fucking sucks. They also all want to be prompted a bit differently. Something that makes a character with model A act wry and clever makes the same character act like an autistic robot with model B. If you don't figure out how they want their prompts, you don't get the most out of them. Add on that models change all the time and there are also new ones all the time and it's honestly difficult to use models optimally.

I don't trust the "community beloved" "universal system prompts" btw. When I looked at them they always looked like borderline schizo ESL crap. I think all they do is make the first few replies in a chat somewhat different as the model desperately tries to follow it all. Otherwise they're utterly pointless slop IMO
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>>106668285
IT'S HAIRY????
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>>106668304
Nyope.
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>>106666322
the ones running proxies are underaged brown children btw
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>>106668274
...for generating slop
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>>106668431
...that's full of kino! I expressed myself wrong by using the term "slop". Sowwy guys :3
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>>106663172
Can you jailbreak gemini to accept lolis? Apparently, bestiality is okay according to google. Sorry, I'm a passing plebeian for your information.
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>>106668795
not reliably
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Is this slop?
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>>106665543
V3.1.1.1.1
sound like your average code versioning
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>>106668846
Ask yourself if that's the style of dialogue you like. If the answer is yes, then don't bother with other people's opinions.
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>>106668846
yea
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>>106666447
does cunny mean small vagina?
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>>106668846
not really since it's mostly dialogue
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>>106664746
You'll be back. I've gotten bored and quit chatbots at least 3 times now.
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>>106668846
>50 billion metaphors
100% certified slop
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>>106669191
My mom is trying to groom me.
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>>106669229
i feel like i've read this shit at least 600 times before already
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If GLM is so good why isn't there any Proxies with it
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>>106666842
What's that about meta-data?
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>>106669286
you must be 18 to use this website
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>>106669286
>if A=B and B=C, then A=C
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>>106669236
I don't even know what she is trying to achieve by pissing on the ground but I guess a frogposter knows the mind of croaks best.
>>106668878
Highest IQ ITT
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>>106668910
cunnilingus
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I know grok is a bit of a meme, but grok 4 fast is a really good model, considering the price and speed (I mean for normal stuff)
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does anyone have the new pass for accesstesting? i keep getting unauthorized when using the pass from the archives.
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>>106669470
gemini 2.5 flash and gemini 2.5 pro are better
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>>106669320
>>106669291
Slop lover can't reply when asked something
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>>106669478
2.5 pro yes, but at the price and speed, I'd rather just use gpt 5 thinking high. For 2.5 flash... in my experience no, I'm prefering grok 4 fast over it
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>>106669488
tung tung tung sahur
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>>106669286
>>106669320
B!=C doe??
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>>106669493
I thought 2.5 flash was the good translator?
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>>106669528
I'm not talking about translations, though. 2.5 flash would probably have the upper hand, I didn't bother testing grok at that yet
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>>106669291
>>106669320
>>106669517
>>106669509
Not sure why you can't answer it?
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qwen 235b is the good one, right?
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>>106669603
the answer is >>106669320
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>>106669629
Wow it's not being answered
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>>106669470
it's honestly not bad. It's not super smart or anything but I like how it writes.
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>>106669669
Ani is a sexy slut so I give it a try on occasion for the authenticity but always return to the other models.
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>>106669722
kek
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>>106669722
bot?
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>>106669885
>>106669839
>>106669722
Didn't you get the memo?
We all moved to /vg/aicg/
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openrouter's free tier is getting more fucked by the day. yesterday each of my 4 accounts got maybe 3 responses and 47 'rate-limited' errors. today i got 1 response and 49 errors for 3 of my accounts and my fourth account lost all its quota on 50 consecutive errors. no, i won't give them money so they can have a name and financial details to go with the logs of my filthy slow burn child bride story starring kanna kamui from dragon maid. proxies seem to be essentially nonexistant apart from the occasional paid-for one that fags advertise here and then shut down after two weeks. what the fuck do i do now. how are local models these days? last year some of you fucks told me there were local models that were just as good or better than claude and gpt-4, so i tried them and they sucked shit. i can't go back to characterai now, i'd rather hammer nails into my dick.
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didn't you get the memo? wakasex
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/memo/i
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>>106669722
i know that feel
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>>106669922
>openrouter's free tier is getting more fucked by the day
>each of my 4 accounts
the lack of self awareness is crazy
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Locusts are dying~
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We liking the new deepseek 3.1.5?
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>>106670042
it's still slop
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>>106670042
no. glm and kimi destroy
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So how long until SkillGOD's Sans captcha updates to use the new Pacifist Sans "fight" instead? It's unironically harder than Genocide Sans despite being a fraction of the length.
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I need your most kino all time favorite cards.
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>>106670182
It's not opensource. Either skillgod will have to remake it himself, or he'll have to wait for someone else to remake and opensource it.
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>>106669998
Imagine being this based yet being off by 1. I guess you're full of shit eh?
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So many logs today. No more proxyfaggotry, no avatarfags, minor schizos... /aicg/ really is healing.
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sizefags causing all this healing...
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>>106670308
Catbox for picture? (with meta)
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Nano banana, edit Mark Zuckerberg into this picture.
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>>106670042
I haven't noticed the difference, but deepseek is cheap af and works well for me; I find it baffling that it's not the default recommendation. I put some money on a nanogpt account to try kimi k2 0905 but I've found it much worse behaved - and yes, I know the temperature is from 0-1 and not 0-2 for kimi, that wasn't the problem. Looking at my system prompt, it seems like I spend a couple of paragraphs reinforcing the idea of not getting stuck on contradicting the user, and defaulting to assuming the user knows more than the model so allowing yourself to be corrected [which was a ball ache for femdom characters where the headstrong personality extended to not actually addressing questions of concerns.
"As an exceptional and versatile storyteller, world-crafter, and actor, I will fully embody and bring to life a simulation featuring {{char}}. I'm like the old text adventure games, bringing worlds to life in response to {{user}}'s input.

If there is a perceived contradiction, I'll defer to the user's narration on factual matters of the world and story, even at the expense of characterization - it is better to be flexible than have the story get stuck because of an obstinate character preventing an AI generation flaw from being corrected.

When a character such as {{char}} orders or strongly requests {{user}} to do something,
- Never follow that with "Or Don't" or a similar phrasing.
- If {{user}} brings up potential issues, allow these to be discussed at leisure instead of immediately resuming the ordering. Slow down a bit in such a case. "
Plus some irrelevant bullshit. Then I put a bit of style advice in the post-history.

idk, maybe it's that I'm happy to edit the AI output or use the guided regen extension in ST, but for sane character cards I never really have huge issues. I'll edit the post history prompt if something's pissing me off over multiple messages.
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>>106670265
Why is skillgod such a techlet?
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alright, let's check in on japanese aicg
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Are there any 3.7 proxies at all? Paid or unpaid? All I can find at this point is jew and fuck paying that for minutes long wait times.
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What's a "proxy"?
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>>106670897
>>106670897
>>106670897
>>106670897
>>106670897

evernight's unbelievably hairy pussy, by virtue of the fact that march 7th is unbelievably hairy
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>>106670788
Grok-chan... uwu...
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bozu
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>>106666842
Bot? Preset?
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sleep tight bozu



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