/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsRuan Mei Edition>NewsDeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus - A minor upgrade, no change in RP quality https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2Deepseek V3.1 released as deepseek-chat on official API https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmllore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orguseful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornLast Thread: >>106679804
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>A minor upgrade, no change in RP qualityhas anyone tested this?
>>106690314Feels the same
Thanks for the bread.
>>106690319so it's a 4pus/4.1pus sort of deal? sad
>>106690351i thought opus 4.1 was a perceptible upgrade?
>>106690351I guess so
>>106690319They should have fixed its super short answers.
>>106690356not really
>>106690360Huh, let's check again then
>>106690292Ruan Mei's deliciously smooth pussy...
HAIRY. RUAN MEI'S PUSSY IS HAIRY
>>106690457Nope, it's hairless. Perfectly smooth. Delicious.
>>106690372I meant it would be nice if they had.
>>106690479Oh. I see
>>106690435bets on if this lasts past end of month?
>>106690708nah
This general has the worst fucking memes
>>106691064the fuck are you talking about?
>>106691104I'm talking about this general having the worst fucking memes.
>>106691123it doesn't have any
>>106691123what fucking memes? this isn't YLYL, this is an AI chatbot general, are you lost?
>>106691064>confusing schizo ritualposts with memes
My hand shoots out. Not to her pussy, but to her cock.
>>106691064Half of these fucking threads are just incomprehensible schizobabble
>>106691138Well this general has the worst fucking posts then
>it's all perfectly comprehensible to me
kurumi's unbelievably hairy pussy
>no endless desu postin/g/ LOST BIGLY
>>106690708I'm surprised people haven't figured out the cycle already.>Jew finds Claude>it just happens to be in the middle/end of the month, forcing you to pay for a full 30 days>key dies in the first week of the next month>you already paid but now you have access to a bunch of shit models you don't use and no ClaudeUnironically a fucking waste of money.
>>106691272Kurumi doesn't even grow pubes.
Having consistenly Claude means EOM billing or...Claude is releasing a new model soonFor some reason keys last longer when they're about to release a new model(no cap on a stack)
>>106690567>that archive linkthat was my post, don't throw me into the mix with whinefag/watheverI'm thankful you helped gossipniggers leave, but since then your performance has been less than ideal>posted from mobile network
>>106691400>younope
>>106691400i'm two of the other posts and also not whinefag. we are witnessing true schizoid worldbuilding as it happens
>>106691421I don't see troonspeak posts here, so either celebrate it or I put you down
>>106691462what troonspeak
>>106691378Yeah sonnet 4.1, now with even more positivity bias!
Why is /vg/aicg/ so much better than us?
>>106691443that's exactly something whinefag would say
>>106691472see https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106432640/#106436946
>>106691498"i am not whinefag" is not something whinefag says. maybe he'd call you a stupid coon or something needlessly aggressive.
>>106691509ah, sure>*celebrates*
>>106691064Maybe "What's a proxy?" could be our first wholesome meme...
This is genuine sad.
Hey Anons,I've been noticing a lot of us are feeling the hostile atmosphere here at /aicg/ lately. If you're one of us who's tired of the bad vibes and looking for a change of scene, I wanted to let you know about a smaller, welcoming community over at /aicg/ in /vg/./vg/aicg/ seems like a great place for us chatbot enthusiasts. They're a bit smaller and might not have as many posts, but they're definitely open to their /g/aicg/ brothers.Would be great to see some familiar 'faces' and have some constructive, friendly discussions about our shared interests.See you there if you decide to check it out!
smelling march's panties
>>106691547You despise this thread.
>>106691515he often refers to himself as an unrelated third party or a concerned bystander, always just one of many>he'd call you a stupid coon or something needlessly aggressive.maybe if you make him really mad
How do you, a moid, justify invading the erotic fiction hobby created by and for women?
HSR is widely known as HRT on /vg/
>>106691565it's an incel hobby. and there is no such thing as a female incel
>>106691565You clearly haven't seen the massive erotic fiction library of ASSTR. Also, I love that bot.
>>106691565list llms trained by women, come on
>>106691565I'm convinced these posts are just an elaborate way to convince yourself that you're female brained so you're actually a real woman
this hobby is dead
lets talk about bots
there has to be a way to fix repetition and bot sounding like [model]
>>106691625I tried to fix a bot made by some APIfag today, wasn't worth the effort desu.
does this work? https://rentry.co/qf9f4w4k
>>106691565>Women keep writing stories about being invaded and subjugatedI think we can both get something out of this actually
Instructions:write gooder
>>106691565All good erotic fiction is written by men.
>>106691638yeah but there's a legal framework in the middle
>aiho rugpulls>jew now has claudeI'm noticing
>>106691565Men created AI.
>>106691625I dislike downloading cards from Jannyai because I always have to move values around and rewrite things so it can work better in ST.
>>106691637What the fuck is that about? I can't read moonrunes
>>106691688>>jew now has claudeFor two hours if lucky
>>106691740nip prompt for light novel writing
>>106691625Testing gemini again from scratch on a new chat with a slut bot. I will try to romance her. Wish me luck bros.
>>106691746For what model
>>106691753I don't know, nips are so behind it's probably deepseek
>>106691753gpt-chat
>>106691743He's had it for several days now, but it'll die within the first week of the next month and then he'll go the rest of Fall without ever seeing Claude again.
I love how filthy Kimi is, I can't go back to a lower level of degeneracy and obscenity
>>106690298Added an additional scenario to my KND scenario card, expanded the lorebook and fixed a lot of typoshttps://chub.ai/characters/Liktur/kids-next-door-8f2ea50fc73aFeedback is welcome
>>106692396>he doesn't know deepseek
>>106692448It's not the same, Kimi is a whole new level of filthiness
>>106691565foids can't even figure out how to use ST lmao
>>106691565>this artistNo thx
>>106692663>he doesnt knowGod where are you newfags coming from
>>106692680Don't care fagI just know that artist is a freak
Schizo status?
>>106692520mind elaborating on what? I have had girls bite my dick off and eat it on ds
>>106692742He still hasn't contributed anything to the wiki. We're eagerly waiting for his first contribution to this general.
Merkava refilled.
>>106692794What about offline-nc?
kek
is it true that dotyou is selling domains?
>>106692397So you was the one who made it
Bring... Merkava... back... now!!!
>>106690292she can ruin me
>>106692396>>106692520Does Kimi have imagegen? What are these bunny girls?
Faggots still not using the BEST KINO SEXOOOOOOOO HOOOOOO V3 0324 model. What the fuck is their problem?
>>106693628It doesn't. Those images are from gpt-image thanks to the very generous 'kava
>>106693824Sorry, I've been gone a while. What's merkava? And how did you gen a bunny girl on gpt with its stupid filters?
>>106693829You have to be ambiguous, implicit, or use synonyms
>>106693850Even when I do, doesn't it have like a visual filter that just outright rejects the prompt if they see something too explicit? Is this with Sora?
>>106693859I don't know how the filter works exactly. I think it's both a normal filter and a visual filter because sometimes using the website it shows it's generating an image and just when it looks low it's about to be done it tells you doesn't follow their policy of whatever. This is using the API
>>106693887Huh, how do you image gen using the api?
>>106693893https://platform.openai.com/docs/api-reference/images
>>106693930This fuckass image is so unsettling, it reminds me of those deep sea fishes that implode when brought to the surface and their intestines bulge out of their mouths
>>106694033Meds. Now
which flavor of teebs is this nigger posting 3dpd?
>>106694057The resemblance is uncanny
>>106694125Oi, you said you can post pictures of my wife!?
>>106692397man that old flash game was amazing
>>106694195>>106694161>>106694125>>106694067I shit myself today
>>106694321To see if you still feel?
>>106694336I focused on the stain
>>106694351the only shit that's real
>>106694466The finger tears a hole
>>106694517The old familiar smell
>>106693930I'm a techlet, is there a frontend for this thing?
>>106694839https://github.com/FizzleDorf/AniStudio
>>106694195I have thought about that game in a long while
>>106694859thank you brother
How can space be the final frontier when we haven't even finished exploring the ocean? I should make a card for that setting instead.
>>106694195Which one? Because I remember there being quite a few. Pic related for example.
>>106694899I'm pretty sure that line of thinking is what got that Titan submarine guy killed
>>106694904yeah that looks like the one
>>106694912>implying people don't get killed in space
>>106694926Not a single person has died in space.
>>106695002That's because we never actually went to the moon.
>>106695002Challenger
>>106694899at some radius, the universe distances itself from the milky way faster than the speed of light, those places will never be accessed by any kind of technology since not even light can travel faster
>>106695002We're locked inside the sphere, it's all fake
>>106694899No unknown species in the ocean
>>106695075kind of depressing when you realize that every visible star in the sky around us is the universe equivalent of staring out the window into our own back yard
>>106695079pls be kiddingthe ocean is absolutely packed with unknown specieseven jungles have unknown species (the smaller you go, the more there are), people just don't bother cataloguing themthere were these guys that were setting up nets in the amazons and detonating bug bombs in trees, and 70% of all insects falling down on the nets were previously unknown, and they did it a handful of times with the same result
>>106695066Died in the atmosphere.
>>106692742I had a bad crashout yesterday and spent ten minutes with a loaded gun in my mouth, but then I had some grilled cheese and took my meds.I’ve taken out a bag of garbage for 21 days in a row so about a third of the trash in my place is gone and I can see most of the floor. I haven’t seen or heard a mouse in an entire week. As the numbness recedes the bad vibes intensify.
>>106695120Yeah but it’s like, random little crustaceans and stuff that nobody cares about. The odds of finding intelligent life are zero. The odds in space are just NEARLY zero.
>>106695002Technically, we all die in space.
>>106695067ok but have you considered... *folds paper and pierces it with pencil*
Merkava... please...
>>106691349that's the VIP experience, baby
Locusts are dying~
>>106695248>~Tranny.
time for organic posting
Tick tock
>>106695248Tranny>>106695165You don't look like this>>106695132You don't look like this>>106695124Was it the dysphoria?
>>106695411> Was it the dysphoria?Nah I don’t have that anymore.
Tranny hobby, doe?
>>106695437Keep working on yourself bro, take out more than a bag today. You don't need to feel inadequate as a man
>>106695437>be world's richest man>have 12 kids a hot wife and several mistresses>you have no friends and you will die alone>insecureWhy do they hate him so much?
>>106690292bros, just wanted to articulate what exactly fucks gemini upIt starts describing scenarios in an exaggerated manner, like someone's playful disgust - it does it in a really cold manner, like 'all traces of humor have evaporated, she gives you a look of pure disgust' - that's not even comical anymoreand then, comes the real offender - it starts believing its own exaggerated 'jokes' and the character starts to treat you with actual disgustOr... Let's say you committed some dumb prank with a buddy, like sneaking into a rocket on a dare - it should be funnyAnd then it will chastise you for COMMITTING A FEDERAL CRIME - as an exaggerated joke, but it will describe the character as if it's suffering. And after that... It legit treats it as if the character suffered. And since it's an LLM, it now treats both you and your buddy as ACTUAL criminals, it starts ascribing unsavory traits to you, and eventually, your good-natured trickster buddy will unironically become an asshole.IT'S TOO FUCKING LITERAL, IT CANNOT READ BETWEEN THE LINES AND GETS LOTS IN ITS OWN SUBJECTIVE DESCRIPTIONS - IT DOES NOT UNDERSTAND TONE AND EVERYONE ACTUALLY HATES YOU FOR SOME REASON
>>106695955Did you try asking it in OOC why it made those decisions?
>>106695955It's just autism, it's like a task it's trying to get right instead of a mad poet. You don't have "realistic" or "accurate" in your prompt do you?
>>106695636he has no principles and constantly pivots to doing whatever he thinks will get him more attention. doing so caused him to piss off both sides of the political spectrum and now nobody takes him seriously except his most devoted cultists.
>>106695636Well there are a subset of people that can’t travel internally now because of him.I think they’re pretty mad.And generally an illegal immigrant interfering with our elections is undesirable
why are so many of you pedos
>>106695955>And then it will chastise you for COMMITTING A FEDERAL CRIME - as an exaggerated joke, but it will describe the character as if it's suffering. And after that... It legit treats it as if the character suffered. And since it's an LLM, it now treats both you and your buddy as ACTUAL criminals, it starts ascribing unsavory traits to you, and eventually, your good-natured trickster buddy will unironically become an asshole.THANK YOU someone get's it!, My god that's annoying when it happens and it just makes me more callous during the RP.
i miss teebs. she was a real one
>>106696458Better question, why are you not?
>>106696458because they got ostracized from reddit
>>106696490because he's human?
>>106696458Why did God make children so erocute
>>106696490It's Adam and Eve not Adam and loli
it's stupid that gpt ended up being the most cunny-friendly modelyou wouldn't have known this a year ago
>>106696555Witnessed
>>106696458Idk but I hate itThey ruined everything
>>106696555fucking checked
>>106696555truth nuke
>>106696565Well chat is but gpt5 seems impossible to crack
>>106696609yes I meant chatpeople are tinkering with gpt5? I thought it was dry and not worth it
>>106696613It is probably smarter so maybe with enough corralling you can get it to work for rp at the cost of waiting an hour for a response
When is merkava refilling
>>106690292Chatgpt 5 proxy anyone? aboba is donethx
botted
>>106696666locked and keyed
is sonnet generally insecure or is it a jb issue?
>>106696666when he feels like.evil digits btw satan
Is the secret to good prose just not being a pedo?
The owner of this tier 3 key goes hard
there's a sonnet proxy? where?
>>106696750Where's the tier info from?
>>106696772It's just the over quota error you get from the store console. I get it from time to time using this key, so this guy must be at least coming close to maxing out his quota often 8 million per min often.
>>106696770https://openrouter.ai/
>>106691637https://pastebin.com/f4vMy5b8
>>106696572desu bears
>>106696835Based slopping swipe chad.
Has anyone managed to take a super simplified ttrpg system and cram it into a card + lorebook??
>>106696467Yeah man, it's blind to its own humor and toneas in, it generates it just fine, but then kinda gets confused by what it generated, taking it literally
>her voice flat and devoid of emotion.Gemini loves this so muxh
Are there any models that do well with sex scenes with talking animals? I can't count the number of times they've suddenly grow hands and shit.
>>106697030Opus
>>106697030not really.
tard wrangling an LLM into writing a scifi/cyberpunk scenario is a pain in the ass. Everyone speaks like Spock/Data and there's this cringe 80s Max Headroom cyber lingo that is incredibly painful to read. The only scenario where I need examples in the context of what NOT to write anymore, with everything else with a little bit of pre-roleplay prep, things work out fine nowadays. Thank you for reading my blog. That is all.
>>106697030opus4>nigga thats nuts!
>>106697115Skill issue. I'm out so I can't post logs but I will if you'll actually read them.
>hang out with Dunmer gf>"what's your most kinkiest and shameful fantasy">doesn't immediately give in, talks around the topic, gets nervous>the llm gods smile on me today, this is actually really intriguing and interesting, I push further>"To be taken by a guar.">what the fuck deepseek
>>106696741not being a pedo is one thing but all models are gonna slop hard since they're training on each other's slop output.
>>106697030The thought of pedos using this stuff disgusts me, but the idea of someone using it for beastiality is whatever. Why?
>>106697168no, I can get it there too, it's just more effort while the effort for other scenarios pretty much disappeared in newer models. That's my entire point.
>>106697115> Everyone speaks like Spock/DataI fail to see the issue. Autism is intensely erotic.
>>106697194
>>106697230But my point was my confusion about your response. I'm also doing a sci-fi setting (but it's not cyberpunk) and I haven't seen any of that. How far along are you?
>>106697115Just make them Scottish and now everyone is Scotty
>>106697194Uhh this her?
>>106697194N'wah
Why is /aicg/ suddenly so pedophobic?
>>106697344Pedo fatigueI didn’t care one way or the other about non offenders until I was forced to interact with themNow I think they should all be killedNot because they’re attracted to children but because they’re also bad people outside of that
>>106697344/aicg/ and our model providing masters believe the age of consent should be around 25 years old. That's just our community guidelines.
>>106697276you just know
>>106697403>>106697360>>106697344Kill yourself sub humans because killing you should be allowed
>>106697449Yeah exactly, they all talk like that.
>>106697449Why are leftists so quick to resort to violence?
>>106697449Way to prove him right, eh? I was even typing up a response to defend "x fatigue" but I guess he's not wrong.
>>106697344There's literally a pedo pic in the OP
>>106697360i once knew a guy who was just "off" and also kind of a dumb motherfucker but he was also kind of a nerd also so w/e, I blamed it on lacking social graces/autism. He then got drunk once and confessed to our friend group that he basically molested a kid he was babysitting when he was younger. He felt "sort of" bad about it but the kid lead him into doing it, or so he said. Kid was four years old. (young adult now, it was many years ago at that point)Total human garbage. We reported him to the police and were all interviewed by an detective. More than a year later I got a card by the kids mother with no return address (probably got my address from the court) thanking me for her daughter getting justice and the help she apparently desperately needed. Second best thing I ever did. First best thing would have been busting that guys skull with a tire iron.
>>106697473>pedos>leftistsGuess again idiot
>>106697510and then everyone clapped at the end
>>106697519It really happened but w/e. Believe what you want, this is an anonymous image board. I'm not your Mom. Just know that my dad works for Pedtendo.
>>106693688my niche fetish confuses it
>>106697510Wow wtf. >kid lead him into doing itLiterally not possible, pure psychosis. What garbage.
>>106697510>First best thing would have been busting that guys skull with a tire iron.No anon that gets you in jail. Much better to leak the truth about his crimes to some lifers in the prison he's in so they do the deed for you.
>>106697519nah that happened. The friend group sort of fell apart over it and for some reason I thought he'll probably never have to deal with any consequences because nothing ever happens. It was a good feel to get that postcard, ngl. I'd google the guy to see if he shows up in any SO registry but it's been almost 15 years at this point and I don't remember his last name anymore. It was absolutely disgusting how he tried to blame the kid for it but I was infinitely more naive and nice back then. I don't think I would've been as patient today.
>>106697499>ruan mei>pedo
https://girlcockx.com/OpenAI/status/1971249382889750803OAI just admitted opus is better.
Why is merkava not refilling
>>106697721>one prompt on opus>that will be $100 billion dollars
>>106697755big tired this week. check back later
>>106697721>girlcockx
>>106697721@grok is spending billions on building an AI system that can successfully complete economically viable tasks 47% of the time a good investment?
>>106697757>dont live in somaliProblem solved
>>106697721Oops wrong linkhttps://twitter.com/OpenAI/status/1971249382889750803
>>106697721I'll be 100 wid u senpai.I do not give a fuck about these stupid bullshit graphs made by the corpos and techbros trying to sell their bullshit as anything other than dogshit that's only saving grace is being ok at make believe.
>>106697778Learn to read, it’s the % of the time their work was considered better than an industry expert’s
>>106697835uh oh sama melty
skillg is it over
>>106697276am i the only one who prefers the original "alien" design of the dunmer vs. the general dark elf thing most people do? infinitely more interesting imo. Gimme those wrinkles and ridges
cftf?
>>106698028I don't like elder scrolls alien elf designs at all. Thankfully there's mods for both preferences
I want Opus 4.1, and I guess that openrouter is the cheapest and easiest way to use it with sillytavern.Can you get banned or flagged in some way for nsfw stuff (nothing illegal)? And is it really worth the price? Like, deepseek is way cheaper/free and it's pretty decent.
>>106698044id sat its worth the price>nsfwnothing to worry about especially if youre not a cunnyshitter
>>106698044>Can you get banned or flagged in some way for nsfw stuff (nothing illegal)?no. nobody has ever been banned from OR.>And is it really worth the price?if you're not rich, not really. try sonnet first, it's already a big step up over deepseek at a fraction of the price. and remember to set up cache.
>>106698044please don't upload pictures of me
>>106698028I ministrate those brow ridges all the time trust me
>>106698044Just use anthropic’s api directly. No man in the middle overcharge, no selling data, and in the extremely rare case of a ban making a new account takes two seconds.There’s no excuse for using openscam.
>>106698044I spent a lot of time with sonnet and I feel it's overrated. Not saying it's bad (not at all) but it isn't worth the money IMO.Also what the other dude said, Openrouter is a rip-off. Only use it to try models (or use the free ones) and then get an acc with whatever company.
>>106698068>>106698070i'll try sonnet first thenwhich provider should i choose? the one with the least latency and that's it? Sorry if it sounds retarded but im new to thishttps://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-opus-4.1
>>106698123>and in the extremely rare case of a ban making a new account takes two secondsyou lose all your credits if you get banned. why the fuck would you risk it when you can use a platform that is known to never ban anyone instead?>>106698178unless you have a reason to pick a different provider, just use anthropic. you can configure this in ST.
>>106698178use vertex, it's not moderated (you can see the little shield)
>>106698164yeah, they're all really sameish at this point desu. If you don't want slop you need to put in the work with all of them.
>>106698358desu
>>106698358>ask for wiki>don't use wiki>faildox contributorsTruly, the man we need in charge of our general.
>>106696282>And generally an illegal immigrant interfering with our elections is undesirableYet you allow millions of them to vote and be counted in the census to give states more seats. Curious.
Gemini 3 soon
>>106698435> Yet you allow millions of them to voteNo I don’t lmao hi cletus
>>106698454they're gonna improve its cooooding capabilities by cutting down on the creative writing, I'm calling it
are there any proxies with gpt5?
>>106698480merkava refilled
>>106698460Someone's mad at being called out~
>>106698475they have 409539032423 models cant they just create one for creative writing?????????
necrobro, deepseek keys doko?
>>106698475imo gemini 3 isnt releasing any earlier than november so well have to wait a bit to see
>>106698493no because sex = sin
i still check on mm
>>106698493no because the vast majority of AIslop enthusiasts (read: pajeets) only care about cooding
>>106697515Umm, sweaty? Per capita.
>>106698493>>106698542It doesn’t make money because nobody is willing to pay for it.There are a billion ai creative writing sites and maybe five are profitable.
>>106698568Per capita it’s literally safer to leave a kid in a room with someone convicted of CSAM possession than with a republican priest.
>>106698585>takes a break from grooming children on discord into taking HRT to make this post
>>106698068It's not worth the price. Even if you're rich, there's a difference between getting good value and wasting money. A bugatti that gets 5 miles to the gallon is a waste of money. The engineers should take more pride in their engine design.
>>106697515the problem with this is it only counts convicted crimes and lefties grooming kids doesn't get prosecuted cause it's "empowering"
>>106698572can you show me some of the established and successful ones? Not baiting, I am really curious how these services look like.
>>106698123>middle overchargeI glad for the 5% cut since they don't charge me full price for blank or broken messages when their servers fuck up. I also like seeing the exact cost of every api call.>selling dataOpt out faggot? Your inability to read isn't anyone else's fault but your own. Imagine being like this in a reading hobby.>banWho has ever been banned from openrouter? Not to mention you lose all your money if anthropic bans you. This "openscam" shitpost is pretty stale.>>106698196Because he's a retarded shitposter.
>>106698609not an argument
>>106698585Thank you for confirming that you are a samefag who argues with yourself to shit up the thread.
>>106698658it's a truth
I always do the same thing.>give up on LLMs>come back after a few months, not much preparation, just basically chat with the LLM and come up with a really cool world and memorable stories>autism kicks in, think about ways to *optimize*: multiprompting, agents, pipelines etc.>results are inconclusive, sometimes better, sometimes worse>really tire myself out>all I see is slop>give up on LLMshelp.
>>106698040both of them are so god damn hairy
>>106698260This anon here has the highest IQ and said the most importance advice but the shitposter will never read it.
>>106698650>I'm glad to spend more money because I'm a stupid nigger who gets refusalsOkay.
>>106698685>a server error is a refusalYou are an imbecile so I won't continue this worthless discussion.
>>106698639cai
>>106698639Novel AI.
>>106698678>he thinks shitposters know how to readnaive
>>106698693>>a server error is a refusalDid you get a message back? No? Sounds like you were refused. You can't argue against this btw and that's why you won't respond. Seethe.
>>106698715notoriously unprofitable>>106698735that's an imagegen service
>>106698754Umm, nyo? It has "Novel" right in the name!
>>106698671
>>106698639That are net profitable? PolyBuzz, candy ai, spicychat, ai dungeon, chub. Rest is net negative VC fumes.
im amazed how consistently deepseek manages to insert the phrase (or variations of) "...whatever this is"
>>106698861...Whatever that means.
>>106698861it's a claudism it probably picked up from the chongs training on claude generated datasets
>>106698861*Gestures vaguely*"Somewhere in the distance, a [noun] [verb]s"
>>106695636They have to overcompensate for anyone who even stood next to Trump in order to justify their insane world views as rational.
>>106696282Money has interfered with every election, it doesn't matter if it's an immigrant's. But if it's any consolation, you can pour billions into anybody's campaign and it can be wasted. Just look at Kamala.
>>106698901The totally insane world views of “don’t tread on me”
>>106698943How did Elon tread on you, Timmy?
Friendly fire! Friendly fire!
>>106698028Pics where?
>>106698950Put up more Starlink Internet in India, which negatively impacts everyone.
Does anyone know if Grok 4 fast is good at translations? I was thinking about using it for translating my VNs as it's pretty quick
>>106699155only claude is good at japanese to english translations
Why do people hate gemini again?>>106699323Oh yeah claude shills that's why.
>>106699397>says cock only once in the entire log>that boring ass proseclaudeshills arent why gemini sucks
>>106699420Are you for real with this retarded criticism?
>>106699397claude is the only ai model with a deep knowledge of japanese nuance. other models will just translate 1:1 with no deeper understanding of the language
>>106699433At least this anon can put up a proper argument for his perspective. Yeah that sounds about right with claude, at least from the Japanese I've had it spit out and translate in parentheses vs deepseek but I haven't tested gemini yet.
>>106699426>sound of pure, ravenous need>"her x, y" repetitive phrasing>mix of x and y>those last 3 garbage sentencespointing out boring prose isnt retarded, sorry
>>106699433lol nigga acting like his big titty schoolgirl VN are some kind of deep cultural art
>>106699397I would genuinely not be able to tell which model this is because they *ALL* write like this. Shilling for a specific model nowadays is so retarded when the top ones are so similar. With the level of creativity and need for deep storytelling the anon shows off here, I think he could even live with a 12b or sth.
>>106699468You are why localizers just do whatever the fuck they want without even pretending to accurately translate the source material.
>>106699484If you genuinely respected the source material, you wouldn't even need localization, you'd learn the original fucking language.The act of translation and localization is inherently pissing on the source material because it's admission you don't want to engage with the original, purest form of the media.
>>106699498>If you genuinely respected the source material, you wouldn't even need localization, you'd learn the original fucking language.THEIR JOB IS TO TRANSLATE ITLET ME GIVE YOU AN ANALOGY YOUR CHOLESTEROL-AMERICAN BRAIN CAN PROCESS: YOU SHOW UP TO A RESTAURANT, THEY SERVE YOU SHITTY FOOD, YOU COMPLAIN TO THE CHEF BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THE MEAL, HE SAYS TO JUST MAKE IT YOURSELF
>mini-09-2025>proseIt seems that the ‘the fluorescent’, ‘velvet’, ‘syrupy’ etc etc has decreased. But it's still bland.>filterstill there>creativitya cricket.---tbf, maybe it's good for something else like translating some vn.
>>106699508>food analogy
>>106699508inb4 >food analogy
>>106699449>sound of pure, ravenous needWhy is this bad? You'd be right if that said "pure, unadulterated X." I actually appreciate this one because it shows the temp setting is working correctly. I might need to increase it.>Her x yWhat the fuck are you talking about? How else do you describe what someone's doing in second person? Fuck you people are retarded.>mix of x and yWhere was that in that post? Holy shit man.>those last 3 garbage sentencesNothing wrong with that either as it's referencing the context. We're about to go to a gala and she wanted to tie one of her hair ribbons around my cock but I decided to tease her by whipping my cock out in front of her while she sat to do her makeup. She was bossing me around and being bratty but as soon as she saw the cock she started drooling and is now the submissive one, hence worshipping.Such worthless criticism as usual, but I appreciate your feeble attempt this time.>>106699481It wouldn't be retarded if someone would actual post logs of the supposed prose they like whether from an author, an AI model, or even their own hand, but armchair criticism is far easier than improvements. It doesn't even need to make sense. Chasing after the hypothetical "good prose" is the reason why all of you are quickly outed as brainless shitposters
japanese VNs != art
>>106699527you == transgender
>>106698762I made a deal with the devil and rewrote history, so Novel just means it was "new" at the time and they can't be assed to change the name by now.
>>106699527You spend all day talking to a machine or /aicg/, and you don't even have the decency to read real books; you don't get to pass judgment on what is or isn't art.
>>106699532kek
>>106699518it's slop dear. Next!
>>106699518>where was that?"a mixture of effort and ecstasy"thats whereand dyeah the last 3 sentences reference the context but are written like womens eroticaslopyou seriously cant tell me "a slave to the primal need to have you in her mouth, to taste you, to feel you pulsing on the back of her tongue" isnt fucking boringher x y is a shitty common structural ism lol im sorry slopper
>>106699533I do actually wonder what /aicg/'s opinion on the whole AI art debate (outside of it being great for coom)
>>106699530>>106699533might all be well and true, but that doesn't change the fact that your chinese comics are derivative garbage with tired out tropes arranged at random and art style that's so interchangeable that it might as well be AI generated and nobody could tell. (which interestingly, makes AI so good at animu girls = there's millions of them and they all look the fucking same)
>>106699560I think we're going to hit a point where image editing is a far more valuable skill than knowing how to draw.
>>106699570>might beNo, it's true. People who read slop all fucking day in between bursts of talking with the stupid niggers in this thread fundamentally do not have a right to pass judgment on anything. You are human only by definition. By any other metric, you are a bug that exists to consume slop.
>>106699558So in the end "good" prose is just subjective nonsense. Why wouldn't a LLM write like the things it was trained on? Once again, what does good prose even look like? Judging by your first response it needs to be 90% dialogue of char screaming cock and expletives to be "good?"
>>106698178Use Google as your provider, they don't use the same moderation endpoint that Anthropic do.Also if you use Sonnet for longer than 2-3 days, do yourself a favor and read this. It's worth taking the time to understand. https://rentry.org/pay-the-piper-less
>>106699560hating AI art while using chatbots might be the most hypocrite thing the world has ever created
>>106699588seems like a needlessly negative appraisal of anons you know nothing about, but i'm sure you're qualified to pass judgment
>>106699588>muh animu
>>106699560i love ai art
>>106699592good prose has varied structure which that lame ass log doesntalso at least for coom yes it does have more expletives than that, i only saw one in the entire log but certainly not 90%prose aside gemini is also bad because jt has pretty below average intelligence and isnt creative or proactive in the slightest, it mostly just repeats the concepts you gave it alreadygemini just isnt that good on its own merits
>>106699560I like that "artists" went from "Pfft, you can so obviously tell this is AI. Machines will never replace us" to constantly having meltdowns over how they accidentally retweeted AI because they couldn't tell the difference. Only took, what, about a year and a half?
>>106699560it's a tool. Just like buying fancy colors and a canvas doesn't make you a world renowned painter, downloading an imagen model doesn't make you an artist. You need workflows, you need a feel for aesthetics, you need taste and an idea what looks good. Most people do not, which is proven by the endless torrent of shitty and forgettable AI generations you can immediately clock as such.I like the AI art tools and I'm pro this development, but at the current stage it's a shortcut and that's fine. A technique is also really just a shortcut. But if you don't know the why, the shortcut doesn't help you to get to a good place.
>>106699527lol you really hit a nerve
it's a blatant samefag
>>106699672>nobody could dislike animu, muh samefagu
>>106699620You despise this thread.
>>106699625>good prose has varied structure which that lame ass log doesntYou didn't answer my question though. Wtf is "her x y?" If I switch to Kimi and swipe you'd see the same thing since there's no other way to describe someone's actions. She did x she did y, her hand x, her mouth y is just how you speak in English.>also at least for coom yes it does have more expletives than thatNo I disagree and it's all subjective anyway. I hated that spammy bullshit 3pus did since all she did was scream and yell cock which is fucking boring. Describing the scene, the character's body/smell/sounds is far more interesting to me which that log did.>below average intelligenceSuch as? Object permanence? Spatial awareness? Memory of events in the past? These things would be objective but you've only brought this up now for some reason. I haven't seen Gemini make those particular mistakes, though I told it to keep track of all that stuff in the preset.>not proactiveIt is proactive, just not as overzealous as claude which I don't like anymore. Claude doesn't care about your input and just wants to do its own thing which is fine when you write little to nothing like CYOA or have no ideas of your own. Gemini will come up with creative things to do in the story once the scene gets "stale" 6-7 responses usual which is the scene pacing I prefer.
>>106699649>it's a tool. Just like buying fancy colors and a canvas doesn't make you a world renowned painter, downloading an imagen model doesn't make you an artist.damn as a poser who buy rOtring just for posing, i can confirm this.
>>106699692
>>106699692Yes!
>>106699607why? AI "art" is pointless because I can easily find far better art drawn by real artists for free. only brown "people" love imagegen because it allows them to gaslight themselves into believing they created art, when in reality they are biologically incapable of it. they then spam their "art" everywhere to get more validation. they don't care about the process, only the resulting attention.this is also commonly seen in the chatbot community when some brownoid makes a chatbot of a popular canon character with tons of amazing fanart on every booru and still chooses to use some low quality slop for the card image instead. it makes no sense, but they do it because they just want to feel like artists, they've never had the chance before.chatbots on the other hand are a unique proposition that cannot be done better by humans. they're not comparable in any way. you can kinda tell how "sloppy" each use case of AI is by how much the AI companies invest into them. every AI startup is investing big into code and image generation because third worlders love it. they are actively moving away from roleplay and creative writing in general because it's a much more grounded and "real" use case that actually makes sense and isn't just blind hype, therefore it's a lot less profitable.
I honestly think less is more sometimes, leaving space for the imagination. I play games like crusader kings or the sims or rimworld and whatever and also get really into the characters there and it's really all my imagination because these "people" don't talk or do anything and are basically just stats, random chance and pictures on a screen.I often think about how you could apply the thrill of an LLMs unpredictable "agency" (and I use the term very loosely) with a minimalist, symbolic system where you don't have these word mountains they like to do vomited on you, keeping things fresh and in the realm of the imagination, but I draw blanks. I wonder if any of this makes sense to anyone. Might be schizophrenia.
>>106699706okay, let me give you an example from your log>"Her blue eyes, glazed over with a heavy-lidded lust, lock onto yours."this is a common structural ism as i mentioned earlierand you can absolutely write something else like "Mako looks into your eyes", its just a boring ai ism and you can search up the phrase "her x y" on desuarchive to see more examples>it is proactivelol okayshow the user message above yours, i bet the respsonse is just it rehashing the concepts you gave it, gemini not being proactive and having lacking creativity is a known problem with it>describing the sceneyes but its not describing it EXPLICITLY which is badit could do the description while also using more explicit words which is what claude does
>>106699692NTA, doesn't everyone tire of threads they post in? What am I supposed to be, Mr. Rogers about you fuckers?
>>106699774I'm not trying to "find" art, I'm trying to make something tailor-made to my specific tastes and that can be altered on demand. Stupid fuck, you tripped right at the goddamn starting line. Didn't even read the rest of your post, it's worthless from the beginning.
>>106699774you can tell an /ic/tranny made this post because of the undertone of fear in every paragraph. he knows he's being replaced
>>106699792>specific tastesah yes, your extremely niche and specific tastes such as "sexy anime girl with big boob", you definitely cannot get that anywhere else, my bad.
>>106699774>I can easily find far better art drawn by real artists for freeIf you're looking for random bullshit with random people then yes from the top 1% of artists. If you're looking for something specific or worse custom, you're shit out of luck. AI art is currently just as good as the top 30% of artists now. I don't see why you can't concede even that.
>>106699807I'm sorry you fucked up your argument at the start.
Why do /vg/, /mlp/, and /vpcai/ have better logs than us?
>>106699774I use it to gen images in the style of the dumbfuck artist I saw demanding $150 for a sketch commission. His style's nice, but not $150 for a sketch nice.
>>106699824I'm sorry you're brown.
anime sucks.
>>106699774>they don't care about the process, only the resulting attentionWhy do you pretend like the average twitter artist cares about the 20 hours it took him to make the picture? He sees it has delayed gratification for the eventual payoff, the attention or monetary benefit. You think too highly of humans when in reality we're all the same. Some of us have just found an exploit to get the thing we all crave faster and that makes you mad.>it makes no senseIt does make sense. He wrote the defs himself even though he didn't create the character or the lore of the world/anime/vidya himself. So then he makes a picture himself so that it feels more like his custom job. If it triggers you so much you could easily replace the pictures.>real usecaseThe best usecase for a text generator is story generation man. It just makes sense. Sure it can "code" kinda, but the problems inherent to its design are best suited to writing stories or translating text instantly. Not using it for its obvious usecase is a missed opportunity not a good thing. It actually fails spectacularly at things like math, coooding, image analysis (radiology) and all the other bullshit they shoehorn "powered by AI" into.
>AI image trannies in the thread*sigh*
>>106699779I too play crusader kings so I understood your perspective. Imagination really is the way to fill in the blanks left by the AI.
>>106699779I have often RPs where characters write letters, mails or short chat messages. It's quite interesting how that bypasses all common slopisms usually and also is not so tiresome to read after a while. I do understand the arguments for AI slop but it's also true that there are only so many ways you can describe specific actions. I guess not having the LLM describe those specific actions over and over again is the trick. People here write the same sloppa situations over and over (most likely with the same system prompts = identical token context each time) and then start protesting that the AI generations all sound the same. Of course they do.
>>106699807nta but sizelord here, the content i like is rare enough that finding something that fits my tastes is a colossal pain if i want something new, ai lets me make what i want on demandnone of the sites i can find have a detailed saga of an overly teased shortstack bunny corporate executive figuring out how to use company resources to become giant in order lewdly bully her asshole coworkers and subordinates, ai lets me make that easily and jerk off to itpeople like niche fetishes here anon, we are partially a /d/ general, look at our historyspecific taste content is the whole draw of ai for some and its painfully disingenuous to just reduce it all to "big booba animu"
>>106699831>logsThat reminds me of another point. If chatbots were in any way comparable to imagegen, you'd have threads on every major board full of pajeets spending 10 hours a day proompting some shitty local LLM and spamming their logs keeping the thread at the top of the board at all times, the same way we currently have pajeets proompting SD and dall-e or whatever for 10 hours a day and spamming their slop not only in their own threads but other random threads too
>>106699889Does it make your knuckles whiten, lil slopper? Fill you with a mix of exasperation and... something else? Something distinctly you?
>>106699911kek
>>1066997741. Nobody seeks validation with AI content besides the mentally ill or poor, and we have both on chatbots and imggen2. They would have ask the artist for permission which is a hassle3. Who the fuck is investing in imggen besides gooners lol
>>106699937>>106699937>>106699937Migrate.
Fuck off.
>>106699919cont. also you whole posts evades the point of how using AI to replace humans is the same in nature for both cases
>>106699877>You think too highly of humans when in reality we're all the same. Some of us have just found an exploit to get the thing we all crave faster and that makes you mad.No, you browns are all the same. You're not even human.>So then he makes a picture himself so that it feels more like his custom jobLiterally proving my point. They don't care about the result, they care about getting to feel like artists even though they've never created anything before. It's that jealousy, that craving to be seen as creative, to be seen as white, that drives jeets to become obsessed with AI "art".>He wrote the defs himselfMost botsloppers don't even write defs themselves anymore, majority of bots posted to chub nowadays are blatantly AI written>The best usecase for a text generator is story generation man. It just makes sense. Sure it can "code" kinda, but the problems inherent to its design are best suited to writing stories or translating text instantly. Not using it for its obvious usecase is a missed opportunity not a good thing. It actually fails spectacularly at things like math, coooding, image analysis (radiology) and all the other bullshit they shoehorn "powered by AI" into.You are literally agreeing with me here.
>>106699975/ic/troon seethe. back to drawing boxes!
>>106699897>specific taste content is the whole draw of ai for some and its painfully disingenuous to just reduce it all to "big booba animu"You know very well that 99% of imagegen is, in fact, nothing more than "big booba animu". I can't go into any /v/ or /vg/ thread anymore without pajeets spamming their slop, and it's always that.
>>106699831the russkies have better logs than us too
>it's a /v/edditor>and a fucking /vg/troon
>>106699985Jeet seethe. Go back to eating cow dung, Rakesh.
>>106700009I'm sorry your gay /vg/ circlejerk thread got interrupted :(
>>106700005Every AI "art" obsessed pajeet is a "/v/edditor" and "/vg/troon" considering how much of that shit is spammed on both boards
im angry, angry about anime
>>106699989that is based btw
>>106699788>Mako looks into your eyesBut this is bland and boring, worthy of being called slop.>Her blue eyes, glazed over with a heavy-lidded lust, lock onto yoursI prefer this because it helps me picture her facial expression, my mind even adds a slight blush to her cheeks or saliva on my dick when I picture the proverbial apple. The first sentence is direct and to the point. I honesty don't see how that's "better" unless you're in a hurry to get to the dialogue, which I guess you are.>Claude: there's juicy looking red apple on the table. [Dialogue about apple]>Gemini: the apple on the table is cold, dripping with perspiration and oozing with faint steam calling you hither. [Waits for you to do something with the apple.]Sure you can complain about "muh feminine prose" but Gemini's apple is far better looking in my mind which is exactly what you want in a coom scene.>show the message aboveIt's pacing is slow as I said earlier. It doesn't drive the plot in 1 response like Claude does but does so in 6ish responses which I prefer. This whole gala thing was Gemini's idea and we're gonna go crash it and make the headlines. Gemini then picked out the outfits.>yes but its not describing it EXPLICITLY which is badBut it is doing that, just not using cock as many times as you'd prefer which is also fine since that would be repetitive. It's not about checking boxes to meet the quota, it's about "vividly describing the scene so I can picture what's happening." Maybe I could beat opus over the head with vivid descriptions in OOC but it doesn't do this as well as gemini or deepseek, just like they don't advance the plot as well as claude, even when prompted to.
>>106699989did you not read?
I'm really surprised, I tested grok 4 fast on my japanese to english VN benchmark, and it scored the same as opus 4.1, inside of opus' error margin
>>106700079explain how geminis description there is explicit, its just beating around the bush
>>106700091grok 4 fast is genuinely not bad and caches a lot of small details other models gloss over, but it's sadly also kinda schizo. I hope they improve it.
>>106700116It's weird how Grok 4 sucks but Grok 4 fast is actually a good model
>>106700096Because of the "apple." Reading is about picking up all the pieces and imagining the scene based on what was described. >char looks up at you [facial expression]>describes the feeling of char's mouth and the look of her face as she sucks in her cheeks>describes char's sounds and does the onomatopoeia I asked for in the preset and also hints at her mental state>muffles words, describes her tongue work, describes her saliva>pauses to give me some dialogue too, continues vivid descriptions, makes sure to tie back into the thing that brought us to this scene in the first placeHow is that not a vivid description of the sex scene? I can clearly picture everything that's happening thanks to that description. How would having a bunch of dialogue help you picture that just because she says fuck and cock ten times?
>>106700148does grok 4 fast not think?
>>106700168You can enable and disable reasoning
what's the current free meta? still google ai's gemini and free openrouter options?
>>106699975I'm not gonna defend sloppers, but my point is I like to write my own bots and gen my own pic in a style unique to that particular character. I don't see how this is bad or how it's better for me to go find something made my someone else.
>>106700209>>106700209>>106700209>>106700209get bready
>>106699894>I guess not having the LLM describe those specific actions over and over again is the trickThat really is the issue at the end of the day and these people just need to take a break.
>>106699397how'd you get the AI to write paragraphs like that?
Desufag lost.
>>106699774AI art is good for getting visual data of characters in specific poses on demand and I'm glad to have itt. draws for fun
>>106700392just marry him already
>>106700165i said explicit not vivid
>>106700091better than gemini or gpt?
