How to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>106679987
>>106696937>>106696937real thread
>>106696921The main feature of harman is no nigger bass. Lurk more.
>>106696981Lol
>among lowest distortion drivers in the industry>only IEM maker to improve their IEMs when they revise>proved BA timbre doesn't exist and that audiotards are liars>releases their 1DD+8BA masterpiece right after>charges $0, courtesy of Aliexpress and the Chinese government>makes iemggers seethe even though they love Castor and EDC ProDid you break the conditioning yet?
Remember to EQ :3
>>106697018
>>106696994Niggerman target did have actual niggers contributing to their trials. That alone invalidates it for me.
>>106697047Use fox target then.
>complains about "sniping">starts sniping >nobody goes to his thread anywayImagine being less likeable than literal trannies.
>>106697097xister... you're not supposed to admit this
>>106697097>>106697125I personally killed it btw.
>>106697086Why did you buy that pos...
Wait, it's not just a different faceplate?
Which IEM and EQ profile would be best in this setup to listen to this vinyl rip of Freebird? https://files.catbox.moe/f9c0w5.flac
Jim is looking stunning btw.
>>1066971937Hz dioko
>>106697200i look like this btw
>>106696629Yes, really. Amazon sells them again as new btw. Which is why you only order from ali.
>>106697268
>>106697183they show the new waveguide (front of driver cover). they've been doing even more FEA simulation and interesting rear designs with other pos, so they have lots of fancy wording for the flagship like helmholtz resonator and all that venting hoopla.tanchchad, pls keep us updated if/when U.S. customers can buy it!
Don't forget the original intentionof using earphones is to enjoy music勿忘 使用耳机的初衷是享受音乐
The original intention of rat is to rat.
Why are pmps so bad bros
>>106697300Damn good IEM
>>106697319Stay tuned
>>106697343I take that back, a PMP in turquoise with Hatsune Miku engraved on it will change everything.
>>106697327Did you get the reviewer version or the no filter ear rape version.
>>106697354I got whatever was being sold for $0 on Aliexpress last monthhttps://a.aliexpress.com/_mtJwy1rIt's really responsive to EQ
Is dawn pro 2 any good? 1 had volume buttons falling inside lmao.
>>106696962I hate noise and don’t want to have kids because I don’t want to subject them to it as well. Noise will cause human extinction.
Thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYpCy61c8JE
>>106697253Actually you look like this. Yikes!
>>106696962Reminds me of:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGd02ZxrwTY
Have any of the world’s great audio scientists solved microphonics, or are IEMs still unusable?
>>106697563Cable around the ear and under the shirt.
>>106697583Also not using etymotics and cloth cables.
Thank you Sharur and Peqdb, I finally made by KZ tolerable.
>>106697414saw some ledditor review them side by side the other day>same button rocker>pretty much the same everythingonly difference seems to be fewer holes in the casing and it's using CS43198's instead of cs43131's. Rocker could be improved internally though this time dunno.
>>106697633>buy a revised kzos>sounds nothing like the online graphs>eq to targets sounds like shit>start believing in techsMany such cases, yet the answer has always been in the FR.
>>106697633Can't EQ dogshit shells.
>>106697018I have some KZs, they are on the bottom of my drawer , being cute little cuckqueens for my Xenns mangird top pros
do you think the budget IEMs sound significantly better than the IEMs that come with original vive?
>>106698004Yes.
Where are the g30 graphs, 11.11 is soon...
>>106697583Doesn’t help.
>>106698187Just EQ out the microphonics.
Stop using RAW.This is not calibrated and SCIENTIFICALLY APPROVED.
>>106698187training issue
>>106698231our fetus
>>106697327it is fun stuff>>106697354there's three versions. first batch with mesh. second batch without. and third with updated driver and no mesh.
>>106698231>airpoos 3 release>iem reviewers sleep>headphone reviewers go apeshitWhat causes this phenomenon.
>>106697680>>eq to targets sounds like shitJust EQ out your shitty EQ by applying another EQ filter. Simple.
>>106698231>TWSI use a dongle, this problem doesn't exist for me.
>didn't come with tipsnoooooo I'm such a retard
>>106697414I still daily my dawn pro 1 so if it's similar to that I assume it's good
>>106697054Endgame.
should I get it with or without "techdefender" foam over the nozzle
do space travel 2s still have that dogshit chinky voice
>>106698952>he doesn't use his IEMs raw
>>106699214>he doesn't halo mount his posngmi
>>106698952It defends you from being overwhelmed by techs. Only use if your pos has too much techs.
>>106699191yes!!shhhhhhiiii... hmm??? hey! disconnected... tu turu... connected!
>>106699336can you not change that?
>>106699387you can not
>>106699640okwanker or zero 2had zero 2 and it was uncomfortable
>>106698231Caring about the parallel lines illusion and preference bounds definitely count as headpos law.
>>106697256I'm ok with wax on my used IEMs as long as it's from white or asian, if it's from mexican or worse im kmsing myself
the british chinese woman who lives in my KZ bluetooth IEM adapters is saying "lo bat tree" what mean?? im listening near a tree full of bats (i live in texas) and didn't think it'd affect. is it because of the echolocation??
>>106699818you heard about the chinese godfather?
Yuki chads, our tots??
Donglechads, we just can't stop winning
>>106700915Have they fixed the CS431XX distortion bug yet?
>>106698231dms is strippingjm-1 compensated 711 measurements are just as useless
>>106700681>peaks aren't even lined up at 8kwhat is this amateur shit?
>>106700945Not my problem!
>>106701027>looking at the treblebruh... it won't be aligned in your ear
Sabre dongle dacs being sold for $20 lol https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOrLIgpNot balanced though
agmh ahh Ahh AHHHHH IM CONSOOOOOOOOMINGIt looks COOOL I will hit BUY BUTTON AHHHhhHhHHHHHHH IM GONNNA.... CONSoOOOOOOOoOOOOoOOoOoOoOOOoOoOoOOMM!!!!!!!
>>106698231also it does sound like pure cope>You're not wrong about the data, but the analysis isn't based on the data -- the graphs are there to visualize the point and I think good enough to do that. It's reasonable to disagree, though I think better data will only help my point :P Unless it turns out the APP3 is returning wildly different results in different people's individual ears -- 'cause comparing these to Beyer treble is genuinely confusing me.DMS>imo this is again why its important to understand how products perform in a population average ear where there is a significant and notable increase in treble (similar in measured level to some beyers with the pop avg ear) which is representative of how myself and many others experience it (as is the expected result). That said there will always be outliers and the average is only representative of what most people will experience, not all.well dumb fuck? treble increase is notable with raw measurements too... and super22 has less treble than jm-1 anyway so it's even more noticeable. and he is ignoring the point about volume compensation which makes HIS amazing compensated 5128 measurements misleading and useless.clown shit all around.The actual problem with super's measurements is that 711 is just less accurate above 8k and doesn't show treble difference compared to airpods2.
>>106701060you think it's a good rebuttal? it just makes these measurements even more useless
any good diddyhifi pos?
>>106701815yeah but why ask us just listen to the youtuber that you spam endlessly
>>106698342Because IEM users escape airpods. They might compete with headpos but compared to IEMs they are just shit.
>>106701815tc44pro e3 is pretty good.
>>106703572Wait, e3 is a new one, I meant e2.
>2025>dongles
>>1067006815kHz looks more tamed compared to 3kHz on 2 and more bass is always welcome. Treble is usual 1DD ass on both, none of the inserts on your pic are realistic, expect something closer to this. No reason to get it over chu 2 unless it's more clog resistant.
I'm planning to buy Snowsky Echo Mini as my daily source. Should I buy those or should I just buy a cheaper dongles? My IEMs are Truthear Nova, Tanchjim Ola, and Tin Hifi C2 and I'm not planning to upgrade
>>106704661You're going to use a PMP as a dongle?
>>106704710No, I'm going to use it as is, not as a dongle. Though I'm probably going to use it as a dongle from time to time
>>106704724It only supports 256GB cards and the firmware is not great. I'd still get a small dongle even if you want to try it.
>>106704773256GB is more than enough for me desu. I don't have much songs that has the max quality. Mostly at 24/48Khz
>>106704494NTA but my length mod is around 9500 and I unironically hear most IEMs like pic relIt is not great. (and yes it is actually this loud for me and fucks frequencies around it much more than what 711 gets) Good on super for showing different insertion depths.
>>106704797Etymotics would probably straight up kill you lmao.
>>106704816I wonder. I can push triple falange eartips in but it's rather painful.I probably should try to find the shallowest fit IEMs lolfuckers who have length mods on 7-8k are lucky
>>106704897Mine is at 6.7k which also boost 5-6kHz. Makes most IEMs sibilant, but forced me to learn to EQ.
>>106700945Pretty sure ru7 isn't using it.
>>106705464Early peaks are also annoying... I have several tips with which I can line up length mods around 8k without breaking seal and it is much more obvious and even manageable without EQ than my fuckery at 10k. Tho wearing IEMs like that is not viable for me at all lol (I have to push them VERY far out of my ears it's pretty crazy lol...). For peaks to be at 6.7k I'd need to literally pull them out lmao
>>106701158Actually 711 shows more treble increase than 5128. DMS is just genuinely retarded.
>>106701158
Just learnt from the grapevine that Alessandro Cortini is also a Storm+SS8W owner. Lmao wtf.
>>106703932imagine a new iphone with no port at all
>>106705892eh makes sense that he is an audiofool. campfire clara is a collab with him
>>106705892This cannot be comfortable.
>>106705897Maybe if it had some ultra short-range wireless data, like NFC but faster.
Requesting advice:>$60-$75>Usage: Media (primarily music) while exercising.>Music Example: https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=k4Znw8CKiRw>Past gear: Generic, stereotypical 3.5mm headphonesI am working with an iPhone 16e here.
>>106707031Tanchjim bunny DSP
>>106707031Truthear Hexa. Just 5 bucks more and you'll have an oldie but a goodie.
received sgor venus, trn st7, celest ruewaiting on troondrop chu2, trn mt5 and sgor luna
>>106707268And apple dongle.
this one cable costs more than what I've paid for on 6 IEMs (not including $0 due to mathematical limitations). literal cheapest 4.4mm, got b/c balanced looks like an efficiency hack for dongles. I see stats like "100mw for single-ended, 350mw for balanced" etc
>4N OFCyikes. 6N OCC Litz wire config are bare minimum standards
thank you xi jinping
>>106707399btw this is coins alone, I probably saved another $300 via coupons and vouchers
>>1067073916N 4.4mm $14 https://a.aliexpress.com/_mt5Ejf3
>>106707511lol not a real brand. them and todn just use kbear's cheap oem parts. 100% not real purity or wire specs
>>106707347IEMs don't need more than 1mW.
>>106707549kz pr2 needs minovsky ultracompact fusion reactor
>>10670757110mW.
Vtuber IEM, endgame.
>>106707816ur so cute!!
>eq guide thread>eq guideless threadis this the new meta?
>>106707922they are both the same because nobody has ever read the eq guide
>>106707966trvke
>guide nobody reads vs thread nobody reads
>>106707816this is the shittiest faceplates I've ever seen
>>106708148you're lucky we didn't make /hpg/ this time, otherwise you'd have 3 threads tabbed that you don't read.
I'm the only one in this general who doesn't need to read the EQ guide, for I already know there's no real-world difference in sound between say, a Tanchjim Bunny, Waner, Zero2, etc. and my trusty EDC Pros. I EQ the shit out of them but my mind is already ascended past needing to learn from the guide. Enjoy your placebo, I'm just on another level.
>>106708359iem's sound good
>>106708261Oh yeah?
>>106698342Again, why are denties so emotional about this shithttps://youtu.be/j-d0H_5lAfQJust stick to your treble murder cans.
>>106708431wow
Are these any good? I'm thinking of getting one. if not could I get some suggestions of better players for under 150$
>>106708431autism was a mistake. regan should've never signed that vaccine law
>>106708449why are headpos like this? if i wanted to listen to treble cannons i'd listen to any of the dozen IEMs that iemg memed me into getting, making them in full-sized headphones is completely superfluous
>>106708261Could have simply said that you prefer fox faceplates.
>>106707752You really think you're smarter than AI?
>>106708956Gemini lost.
>>106708985PR2's gonna need the balanced cable to work with Cayin RU7 R2R
>94dB/mW>needing power Lol. Maybe if you need extra 30dB to compensate your hearing loss
>R2R
>>106708929no faggotI actually think his faceplates suckand orange he uses for shells is also kinda meh looking
>>106709034This has nothing to do with my statement, but at least you admit this by not replying to my post.
>chatgpt didn't know the sensitivity of his posLol
>>106707816>amigo is an epzo tooIt's the EPZ world and you're living in it.
>>106708551Pros: rockboxCons: hiss(depends on your IEMs and ears)All pmps kinda suck.
>>106709484PMPs don't suck if you plug a dongle into it
I got a pair of KZ-AS16 PRO and wonder is there any other IEM that is close to a DT 990 Pro in sound profile?
>>106710546pretty much all IEMs sound like dt 990 pro but without a soundstage
>>106710688Okay, any better IEM than the KZ-AS16 PRO?
>>106710699uhhh kz pr2 if you wanna spend $10
2 days without a new Ziigaat posWHAT'S HAPPENING?
>>106710702I can't find them for $10, where can I find that price?
>>106710795it's on aliexpress for $23 right now, and there's $2 off coupons IFPNMIHS/IFP4L047, maybe more with aliexpress saver if you have that. no coins deal right now. wait til next sale for better prices
>>106710825Fair enough
>>106710834Sgor Adonis is $14 with coins 20% off and coupon $5 off IFPTGCGK, Venus is $9
>>106707285rue was a surprise, it's dark and does it well. pairs well with metal with bright recording/master. detail isn't great, soundstage is above average, imaging is good if you're used to dark. lacks problems compared to other IEMs
pro gaymer rocking some latest fotm tea pros
>>106712037jesus christ look at that fit, now imagine that on a chink twink with tiny ears
and funny enough his teammate has used emerald sea for years
>>106707162I like what I see with the reviews for this thing. Might buy a pair.>>106707268It's a nice recommendation but I probably should have mentioned that I'm looking for headphones that are wired right out of the box. I lost my last pair of bluetooth iems during a workout so I'm never going back.Still, this is something I'll keep in mind for when I'm ready to spend a lot more money. Thank you for the suggestion!
>>106712331You have to be trolling. You could just, you know, attach the 2 pin cable your Hexa comes boxed in right? If you aren't for some reason, then I recommend the VR3000
>>106712394>You have to be trolling.No, I'm not. I saw no mention of a USB-C jack on this page https://truthear.com/products/hexa#product__desc-specification but now I've noticed the cable you're talking about. I looked it up and apparently the jack they use for the Truthear is 3.5mm but the Crapple phone only takes a USB-C because nothing in life is allowed to be easy.
>>106712449Oh... a DSP cable.The Moondrop May then.
Hey /iemg/, I've got a question.I've had a pair of truthear hexas for about a year at this point, they've served me well. I'm just wondering whether it would it be worth upgrading to something in the 200-300AUD range? Or have I already hit the point of diminishing returns?Picrel, as It's what I'm looking into buying.
>>106712897>I'm just wondering whether it would it be worth upgrading to something in the 200-300AUD range? Or have I already hit the point of diminishing returns?You wouldn't believe how loaded and complicated this answer actually is.We can split this question into two parts: whether there is something that performs, according to objective data, better than what you have, and whether this something will provide a better experience.>Objective performanceThe two main components of sound that relate to IEMs is frequency response, which is hard to determine objective performance for since it'll be based on preference, and distortion. The latter is a solved case for most IEMs, there is nothing to worry about here.For frequency response, it depends on your preference and whether an IEM's frequency response will match it. However, it's been shown that there is no correlation between price and frequency response (and price and distortion), so instead of looking at price ranges, you should be looking at specific IEM models.>Better experienceThis is practically impossible to predict. The IEM's fit will change how you perceive it, same with the price, unboxing, aesthetic, etc. So what should you do? You should describe your preferences, and things you're looking to improve.
>he needs more
>>106712968>You should describe your preferences, and anything you're looking to improve.In terms of preferences for sound signature, I've only really owned 3 high end audio products total, so I'm not 100% sure.My favourite by far where my Hifiman anandas. I tried like a dozen over ear headphones at an audio shop, and they were the ones I enjoyed the most.And in terms of things I'm looking to improve, comfort and reliability have been my biggest gripes. I've had multiple eartips come off inside my ear, along with that, the shape of the iem being generally uncomfortable in my ear for long periods of time I hope that gives you a general idea of what I'm looking to improve.
>>106713102Yes, all of these are good. >in terms of things I'm looking to improve, comfort and reliability have been my biggest gripesComfort is arguably the hardest part to recommend. The Daybreak you showed will sound very close to the Hexa, and is in my opinion more comfortable. However, it does have what is called a semi-custom shape that molds to the folds inside your ear; whether or not this will be good for you is hard to say. As per usual, if you can, buy and test it out from Amazon and then return it if it's bad.You won't find much that fits small and snug while sounding similar to the Hexa (afaik). If you're willing to use EQ, this becomes trivial, but if not, the Daybreak really is the best choice you have IMO. It also comes with a ridge (referred to as the lip) on the nozzle, which will prevent the eartips from coming off (Hexa has no lip).
>>106713102if you are going to buy daybreaks buy coffee tips too
>>106713077Yes.
>>106713102If you want to improve the comfort you need to spend less, not more. It's hard to fit a gorillion of drivers into a small shell.
>>106712449If only there were some way to use 3.5mm IEMs with type c...
>>106713928Like the Cayin RU7 R2R
>>106713174
>>106713174Doesn't necessarily need to now all daybreaks come with a set of clear wide bores which are the same exact thing as KBEAR 4540's as far as I can tell.
>>106713102Xenns Top Pro is the natural upgrade to the Hexa. Similar tunings.
>>106714401wait what? really? didn't know that lolbased crin
I got a Fiio M21, it's pretty "QLZ" as the kids say.
>>106712037>>106712044DZ hasn't been doing so great this stage. I play r6 and have been looking for a new headset to replace my 11 year old hd 558s that I used over my hd 650s for gaming so I'll order a pair of the tea pros to check them out.
What's your eartips of choice? Personally looking for best comfort + sound isolation. The Symbio W's are pretty good, but a little hard, so thinking of trying out the ZEOS Renders.
>>106714008>>106712480>>106713928I know the tech for adapters has existed for decades, it's just that I want to open the box, plug the headphones into the jack, then play the music without treating the phone like it's a Sega Genesis.Moreover, spending even more money on a dongle would put me over my budget. I'm not big enough of an audiophile to get myself true top-of-the-line IEMs or anything like that just yet. Ideally the most I'd spend on a pair of headphones at the moment is fifty bucks so the Truthear Hexa pair I'd like to get is already pushing the envelope before worrying about a USB-C adapter.Having said that, I still greatly appreciate all of the help and suggestions offered. I could stand to learn a lot about music and sound quality from these generals.
>>106715287you calling me a sissy?
>>106715307Uh oh
>>106715240Depends on your ear anatomy and which IEM you're going to pair it with. I use Divinis Velvet tips on my KZ PRX because it increases bass and reduces treble. But that doesn't jive with my Aful Explorer.
>>106715287a sega genesis is much easier to operate than pos
>>106709034>listens to treble cannons all day>accuses someone else of hearing lossthis general never ceases to make me laugh
music doesn't even use treble, stop whining
>>106715738post playlist, tranny
>>106715729>>106715738>he doesn't EQ Lol
>>106715747The only reason you would use treble is for video games, I don't play video games because I'm not a loser like you.
What if there was a EQ Adaptor?Think about itReally think about it
>>106715763An adapter with 30 knobs? How do you envision this?
>>106715774No, I imagine you'd have to somehow set its EQ settings in your computer/phone, then it'd save those settings.No, I don't know how that would be achieved either. That's for R&D to figure out.
>>106715755I accept your consession, but you'll never be a woman regardlessenjoy your treblepos>>106715785this is literally just a dongle
>>106715798you play video games
>>106715738>>106715747>>106715755>>106715798>>106715803I'm trans.
>>106715785So, a DSP dongle.
>>106715813>Sylveonbased actual tranny
imagine being a fake tranny on the internet because you're that much of an indecisive loser. either inject HRT or fuck pussy, stop living in purgatory
Anyone have a Shanling m5 ultra?
>>106715813>>106715785>>106715763I do this except switch dongles between sabre, akm or r2r dac tailored to the song and IEM. Poorfags wouldn't understand
>>106715287Sega Genesis had an actual 3.5mm headphone jack
>>106716005>no PEQIncredibly low standards + humiliation ritual.
>>106716019I do for the iemg recs that need it, the ones with the disaster FRs that have random peaks and dips to enhance tranny music
I honestly didn't believe in EQ beyond bass boost until I started buying some of your $0s. Just listen to a fucking Ruta10 without EQ. I see why that other anon wants DSP dongles.
I massively overpaid for this shit.
>>106716101don't you like the sound or what??
So I was using Sennheiser CX200 Street II until they broke. Now I need something in the same price category. I am thinking Tanchjim One DSP. Are they good or do you have any other suggestions?
>>106715729Treble cannon from an IEM-appropriate dongle causes less hearing damage than a bass cannon from an audiopedophile dongle. Especially dire in the headphone world where you hear "I only listen at 80dB" dudes from across the room.
>>106717000Benito Decibel speaks of this.
epzos, how many days does it take to epz finish a custom pair?
>>106717499They ask to extend the shipping time by 20 days.
Is the need for "sparkly treble" just vaccine-induced hearing loss? A lot of you do have a touch of the 'tism. It makes sense that a lot of you hate headphones that much.
>>106717000It's more like IEMs attract people with hearing loss and Asians because normal people can't stand the treble blasting their eardrums for more than 4 songs. EQ is needed for the vast majority of the recs here.>>106716278It has rng tuning. I have no idea who it's for.
v shape is actually how sound works bwos, there's a reason conductors were always yelling at the percussionists and flute sections to quiet the fuck down because they're downing the rest of the band.It's just science, flat tuned pos are an abomination.
Recommendation for over the ear headphones that have LDAC or apt? For use indoors, don't care about looks or ANC (I've got Sony XM5s and earfun air pro 4 for outdoor use), this is just for use in the kitchen watching Netflix while cooking. Budget around £50
Help? I have a HIFI m5 ultra that works beautifully with most of my IEMs except for the Quintets, when I plug them in with a 4.4 cable I can very audibly hear a hum just like the decoy sound from this video https://youtu.be/f3frEmL1JLQ?si=VNsGlAD35lDYS1rP&t=44 (from 0:44 to 0:48)If I unplug either the right or the left one from the cable, the sound goes away; this also happens when using a 3.5 cable but it's only noticeable if I really pay attention to itmy quintets work wonderfully with other sources, and the M5 ultra also works great with other iems no matter what cable I use, and if I use the 10ohm impedance adapter from my zero reds the noise is goneis there something wrong with either of those of is it just that the quintets are too sensitive to use the M5 as a source?
>>106718286>buy meme source>hear degraded audio and artifactsyou get what you paid for, worse audio quality than something with sensible audio architecture
>>106718110Why not just use tws in the kitchen. It's not like over-ears are going to be more comfortable than them, especially in that budget.
>>106718286PMPs have one job and they suck hard at it. Literal $10 dongles don't have this problem.
