>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

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Radeon sisters, we've lost control of the op... It's over...

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niconiggers...how do we respond without sounding mad?

is over https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlcgAG-C9wo

>>106737529
>when the shilltubers have to face reality
you love to see it

>>106737538
i will actually get a handheld when they start using the good amd apus

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>>106737538
Classic Retardeon playbook, always citing poorly optimized game performance.

>>106737571
mentally unwell people like you are what give this website a bad name

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>>106737538
>>106737547
>>106737571
Posting the latest trifecta of games that target console 30/60 FPS. Good for you.

being a PC parts fanboy is more embarrassing than being a console fanboy desu

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when do we get an RX 9800 and 9800 XT?
I'm thinking of Just Waiting until the 10000 series come out because clearly they're going to call it that and won't reboot their naming scheme for the 999th time

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>>106737389
Team Red

>amd unboxed forced to face reallity
>super seres delayed because of how much better blackwell series sold compared to AMD
>nicoposter having a melty
lmao

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>>106737598
COD developers don't prioritize GeForce optimizations; they move on to the next COD project after the consoles can run them at 60/120 FPS.
No one here stopped a COD player from buying Radeon cards.

>>106737706
eat a snickers my guy

>>106737623
RX 9800/XT needs a larger GPU, the 9700XT already maxed out the Navi48 design.
I doubt AMD invested money into designing a larger, monolithic RDNA4 GPU.
They don't even want to increase RX 9700/XT production and lower costs.

calm down please
we're all adults in our thirties here

Lmao at the single AMDrone in this thread

He's upset because a 12GB NVIDIA card can run Hogwarts Legacy RT better than his 7900 XTX today.

>>106737802
It could be worse, he could be a literal shitposter

>niconigger is so mad he made a new thread
lol

On the bright side, this crazed individual is posting here and not doing something to people irl

>Parts list has both major brands in it
>Meltdown
I don't get it, what's the point in having brand loyalty on PC parts when you should just be buying whatever's the most reliable and in your price range?

>>106737904
That's why moderation is lax in /pcbg/, jannies & mods treat this place as a containment thread.

>>106737906
He got priced out of nvidia cards, his village doesn't have much money. Now Jensen Huang is his eternal enemy.

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Now I love being a schizoid shill as much as any other /pcbg/ frequenter, but can we all agree the specific amd nigger is maybe a bit too much?

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>mfw my 5070ti still has bad drivers

NVIDIA derangement syndrome

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>>106737919
>Deliberately spammed this thread with Retardeon crap to attract people to his AMD thread.
>Jannies clean up his thread
You really need help.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106381779/#106386694

>>106738011
nicojeet is seriously mentally ill

>>106738027
Someone said this guy's been banned in /a/.

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Anyways, enough about second place. NvidiaGODS, play anything good lately?

>>106738040
I’ve been enjoying borderlands 4 on my RTX 5090

Why doesn't nicotroon just make an AMD general and stay away from this one

>>106738050
Same but my 9070XT. Still waiting on their supposed performances fixes so I can stop closing the game every hour or so to prevent memory leaks.

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>>106738050
Nice! I want to try other VHs but can't be bothered to start from level 30. Praying Randy gives us a way to share map completion status across hunters.

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>>106738063
Did you get fired from your minimum wage + $7 CAD job already?

>>106738040
Just some RTX remix mods like warband and vampire the masquerade, its neat having an nvidia card and being able to play your favorite games with high textures and modern lighting

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I thought nicotroon had a job now?

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imagine still being able to engage in console wars in 2017+8
surely anyone who witnessed the absurdity of the cryptocurrency boom would be too jaded to care by now

I have a good GPU from AMD, and a good 5xxx series CPU from AMD. However when I try play soem games I feel like my performance is not so good. Is there a benchmark app that I can use to determine, if I'm getting bottlenecked by GPU, or CPU? I've noticed some UE3 game seems to bring problems to 7900XTX , and I'm not entirely sure if it's because it has physx stuff, or if it's because the game is not utilizing multicore of CPU very well).

What would be a good benchmark program to determine whether my Asus 7900xtx is under performing for some reason, or if I'm getting bottlenecked by CPU? I remember when I got my GPU, the tutorial loading screen on X-Com 1 (inside the aircraft, guys sitting) used to crash my GPU driver constantly, and I think that too was UE3 game or something.

>>106738081
after getting my 4090 and not really having any demanding game to play i tried the HL2 RTX and it looked absolutely hideous with overblown highlights everywhere and the overall moodiness of the original lighting gone completely.

>>106738101
Older games are generally not coded to take full advantage of future PC hardware.
Many old games run on a single CPU thread, with some game physics tied to a 60 FPS limit.
Games like X-Com don't prioritize high FPS experience either.
Use can use Steam's in game performance overlay to see CPU & GPU utilization.
AMD and NVIDIA also have their in-game performance overlays.
https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/faqs/DH3-038.html

>To enable the performance monitor, go to Settings->In Game, and find the Performance Monitor settings and detail level options.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/3462-CD4C-36BD-5767

>>106738059
same reason every single general on this site has a resident schizo: a captive audience

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>>106738101
Mobile oriented benchmarks in 3dmark, there's the one with the drones and another one on a space station or something.
Lot of games from the ue3 era that are just super single core reliant + I think both ue3 and ue4 are confirmed to have issues on rdna now.
If you didn't get an am4 x3d while they were cheap it's probably time for a new platform

>>106738169
>If you didn't get an am4 x3d while they were cheap it's probably time for a new platform
I changed 5950x to 5700x3D about few months ago, but I don't know if I noticed any "big" increase in FPS. Games I've struggled are Renegade X (can't get 160 fps on some maps with fast action), Planetside 2 (don't remember fps numbers, but I think not as high as I would like) and Palworld SP (world with ton of bases)

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Hey radeon sisters, how do we explain this?

>[Deleted]
good job janitors, peace befalls pcbg once more

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It's so funny how it's usually the AMD fanboys losing their shit.

>>106738159
>Use can use Steam's in game performance overlay to see CPU & GPU utilization.
Yeah I think I'll have to investigate this, I'm not familiar on how to read it. I've noticed in some games I feel like lowering the resolution settings doesn't seem to give me significant fps bump, (like I don't get in the 170-200fps range where I'd like to get) so I assume it could be CPU bottleneck, but I'm not 100% sure. Oh and Palworld with ton of bases is sub-30 fps whenever pals go to sleep

>>106738246
Did you install the video card in the PCIe x16 slot that is closest to the CPU socket (top-most)?
Give us your CPU, memory, and motherboard details.

>>106738221
Dying Light is shit

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>>106738216
For those older games this is the biggest thing to look at
This is passmark btw

>>106738257
>Did you install the video card in the PCIe x16 slot that is closest to the CPU socket (top-most)?
yes

>Give us your CPU, memory, and motherboard details.
5700x3D, Asus dark hero and 64gb of ddr4 3600mhz

Zen 6 wenn Saars?

>>106738264
If we were brand warring over benchmarks of good games we wouldn't be here

any sane reason to try to undervolt RAM?
thinking about starting from EXPO defaults and going down from where

>>106738281
PC spec is nice.
Get the free version of 3DMark and run the Steel Nomad benchmark.
If your system result is way below average, something is bottlenecking your PC.

>>106738317
all it takes is one bit to be flipped for catastrophic failure
is it worth whatever undervolt you think you can get? and all of the pointless hours stress testing if its stable?

>>106738317
Don't bother, testing RAM stability is a pain in the ass. Unless you are highly autistic and you love watching days go by, it's a waste of time.
There is simply no benefit.

>>106738317
Unless you're going over 60c in your everyday, I don't see a point. Just expo it and send it.

>>106738358
there is water underground

2x 9070 > 5070ti

>>106738317
The only reason to do it is if you bought an insane kit of ram that ships with high voltages like 1.45v on ddr5 or 1.55-1.60v on ddr4 and can't run them stably due to the heat induced by the voltage

>>106738317
no, RAM only uses a few watts per stick

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Public service announcement : Mobile gpus still kind of suck.
Would the 4090 be basically equal to the 5070?
Is modding out the cucked power limit for mobile gpus still a thing?

>>106738448
Laptops aren't like desktop GPUs. They are built to spec and not more than that so you have very few vcore power phases installed and any power increments will run them close to the edge accelerating it's failure

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>>106738101
if you have 5xxx then you are cpu bottlenecked.

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>>106738448
>Mobile gpus still kind of suck.
Because the boost clocks are limited to cool the GPU with a laptop blower fan.
And models like the mobile 5090 and 4090 are using a lower-tier GPU.

>>106738518
there has to be something wrong with that 5800X3D setup, there's no reality where any CPU is 4x faster than a 5800X3D
those are the kinds of gains you would get in the 90s

>>106738540
>>106738448
Yeah a laptop 5090 is actually a 5080 die with lower clock speed
Because even calling it a 5090M wasn't scummy enough they had to make it even more confusing

>>106738344
>>106738358
>>106738397
>>106738437
understandable
>>106738421
definitely not the case hah

I guess my minmaxing stops here. Thanks, anons

>>106738621
Did you already tune your cpu/gpu?

>>106738621
apply this instead if you want some gains
https://www.patreon.com/posts/low-effort-rank-77403831
run TM5 overnight with the ABSOLUT profile, if it passes you're good
https://github.com/CoolCmd/TestMem5

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>>106738621
Buildzoid's EZ AM5 timings get you the low-hanging fruit.
But I wouldn't set tREFI above 40959 without active cooling.
And you don't need to change tRAS for AM5.

>>106738631
CPU, yes. GPU is really old and OC'd
>>106738642
sure thing, thanks! Now wondering if Buildzoid has got paywalled good stuff worth looking into
>>106738658
amazing info, tyvm

>>106738790
>https://kemono.cr/patreon/user/887888/post/117158469
If you're certain you have Hynix a-die, these set of timings are more updated and better for performance

>>106738790
>Now wondering if Buildzoid has got paywalled good stuff worth looking into
AFAIK he has more extensive guides for different types of memory configurations (2x24, dual rank 2x32, etc) and speeds (6200+)
you can either throw him a few bucks and become a member (he deserves it and everyone's got to eat)
or you can get them for free from kemono

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Somewhat budget white build with aesthetics in mind.
Might upgrade the GPU in 2 years or so if I feel like playing recent/more demanding titles. Will also upgrade the CPU in a few years since the motherboard has an AM5 socket.
Actually I'm still not sure about the motherboard, apparently it's a very good motherboard and it will match the looks of the GPU but it could fuck up the CPU if I'm really unlucky.
But I have barely seen any reports about B650 boards having that problem and it looked like the overwhelming majority of are the X3D ones. Or maybe I'm not looking hard enough.
Still looking around for white peripherals.
What do you guys think about the build overall?

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>>106738830
they're definitely Hynix, not sure which die specifically. Will check tomorrow
>>106738832
sounds juicy indeed. Yeah, shelling some shekels for him is reasonable even if his stuff is already dumped

>>106738920
Just noticed the RAM kit is wrong, it should be Klevv FIT V 6000 CL30 (2x16) for the same price.

>>106738951
>shelling some shekels for him is reasonable even if his stuff is already dumped
yeah normally i would say paying for "PC optimization" stuff is cringe as hell but if buildzoid publishes something you know he's put a lot of effort into testing it
those timings have almost certainly been validated for 24+ hours on multiple CPUs and memory kits
(that's probably why there's no EZ intel timings, lmao, IMC lottery is too strong on raptor and arrow lake)

>>106738920
Yeah I think the ASrock problems are limited to the 9800x3D, should be fine in this build. Is there a specific reason you're going for 2x1TB vs 1x2TB? Also, have you looked at the Lancool 217 case?

>>106738590
the amdip is a slow and insidious killer

>>106739036
i raided in DF with a 5800X and it was doing 70+ FPS on even the heaviest boss fights
his setup is broken, it's a skill issue

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>>106739036
Disable the GPU Power % sensor in RTSS/Afterburner, it usually gets rid of the dips.

>>106739020
>Is there a specific reason you're going for 2x1TB vs 1x2TB?
I was thinking of having one main drive and one drive for storage and backup I guess. But it might be better to go with an SSD+HDD combo
>have you looked at the Lancool 217 case?
I haven't, that's a pretty cool case actually but it's 43€ more than the 4000D frame. I'll watch out for any offer.

>>106739057
vanilla zen3 was even worse, you saw how much it dip in scenarios as soon as it was loaded
a 5800x3d pumps up the fps hyyyuuuuuuge in WoW as I've seen from benches, you need a max tune 13600k to get to the same level, at that point a 5800x is crazy much slower

>>106739072
did the the chinese guy have it on
was it confirmed or was it hit and miss depending on systems (if the fps is still higher on right)

>>106738518
>90FPS with a brand new CPU in a 25 year old game on low settings
how does Blizzard still get away with it

>>106739121
the people still playing it are captives anyway

btw I tried DS3 in 4k and damn the assets or the backdrop all look like ass
game was truly mastered for like 480p consoles or some shit
you truly need hi res textures and mods
was 4k a mistake and a meme? you see too much
and it all looks like ass

>>106739115
>vanilla zen3 was even worse
worked fine on my machine
obviously you need tuned memory on vanilla zen 3
>you need a max tune 13600k to get to the same level
13600K is almost certainly faster than a 5800X3D
>>106739121
even on classic era if there's a lot of people in the same area it will drop

>>106739170
is this true?

>>106739087
It includes 5 pre-installed fans, so you'd save the 36 euros from the fan packs

Ive been seeing 4090s for 1200€ or less even on the used market here lately. Are they worth the price?

>>106739174
>obviously you need tuned memory on vanilla zen 3
what does ram tune matter when it hits the chiplet interconnect meme and dips
>13600K is almost certainly faster than a 5800X3D
max tune with the fastest ram possible just to hit around the same performance in WoW
stock it got demolished
btw I thought it was actually the 12600k now I forgot how old these chips were, was not the 13600k

>>106739188
I mean yeah, not sure if the game backdrop has a low field of view or the backdrop or skybox is prerendered and actually that low res
not to mention things flickering and shit being ass yeah
literally DS1R looks better
the higher res you go the better assets you need yeah
old games look fine though
4k is still worth just if the games are like that man they look bad need to download the high res asset pack mod or some shit

>>106739195
Oh yeah I missed that

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>buy another monitor
>figure I'll just get a 2nd one of the one I already have
>get it and set it up
>the colors are slightly different on both
>can't get them to feel the same

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>>106739323
>what does ram tune matter when it hits the chiplet interconnect meme and dips
it doesn't
you don't know what you're talking about
zen 3 vs raptor lake with the same RAM kit is around +10ns memory latency
that's not nothing but it's not the end of the world either, zen 3 is mainly limited by core performance
(the 5800X3D doesn't scale at all from faster RAM in wow, the cores are already being fed fast enough for IPC to become a bottleneck)
>btw I thought it was actually the 12600k now I forgot how old these chips were, was not the 13600k
that makes more sense
i'd still say the 12600K should win if you tune it correctly, but whatever, i can believe it

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So how does shader compilation compare on a 9800x3d vs something like an i9 or 285k? Does something like that scale with the ultra-giga-nigger cache or not

>>106739463
>Does something like that scale with the ultra-giga-nigger cache or not
probably not, since regular code compilation doesn't
you want more cores for faster shader compilation

>>106739484
>since regular code compilation doesn't
>you want more cores for faster shader compilation
So a 9800x3d could maybe be comparable to like an i5 or 9700x on this?
9950x3d/7950x3d best gaming cpu confirmed?

>>106739463
It's way worse what else would you expect. It's 8c16t.

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>>106739549
>So a 9800x3d could maybe be comparable to like an i5 or 9700x on this?
14600K or 9700X (in 105W TDP mode) would be the closest comparison
>9950x3d/7950x3d best gaming cpu confirmed?
yes, the 9950X3D is the best at everything
the 9800X3D belongs in a playstation
it's only good at gaming

>>106739377
>i'd still say the 12600K should win if you tune it correctly, but whatever, i can believe it
that spanish schizo that benched it max tuned it finally achieved the same perf as 5800x3d in wow

>you don't know what you're talking about
even normietubers demonstrated the amdip hard on vanilla zen

>zen 3 vs raptor lake with the same RAM kit is around +10ns memory latency
yeah but what happens when the cache does not fit and the memory needs to load in
the amdip appears
why do modern amd take longer to recover from dips than intel still?
(allegedly)

>>106739549
x3d should be better than vanilla still for shader comps, source: a screenshot I saw somewhere of that exact test

>9950x3d/7950x3d best gaming cpu confirmed?
top scam cpus of all time

>>106739365
return both and buy a 2000nit peak oled tv

>>106739610
will the next consoles have massive stacked caches? I'd thought it'd be too expensive but I genuinely believe they'll sell the PS6 for $1000 at this point.

>>106739549
>9950x3d
Crafted by Lisa Sue herself to make my life better.

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>>106739617
>that spanish schizo that benched it max tuned it finally achieved the same perf as 5800x3d in wow
source: "the spanish schizo"
>why do modern amd take longer to recover from dips than intel still?
i hope you understand that i've owned both
i already posted about this before, in every game that i've tested 14700K is ~50-70% faster in both averages and lows
(the 14700K result is old but i didn't retest the 5800X with new GPU so it seems fair enough)
i didn't have any dips on AMD and i'm not having any dips on intel either
fully convinced that's a skill issue now

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>>106739638
Consoles will not use CPUs with a 3D stacked cache, as these are costlier and take more time to manufacture.
There's a real possibility the PS6 will cost near/over $700.

>>106739683
>source: "the spanish schizo"
correct, that guy on yt I posted multiple times
I think he quit, not sure

>i already posted about this before, in every game that i've tested 14700K is ~50-70% faster in both averages and lows
why even compare yes no wonder it's light years faster

>i didn't have any dips on AMD
maybe you don't play high enough hz to notice 500 to 300 fps dips

https://wccftech.com/zhaoxin-launches-kh-50000-cpus-up-to-96-cores-first-die-shots-12-compute-chiplet/
>Today, Zhaoxin is finally launching these chips, and also gave a glimpse of the full-die, which packs 12 Compute chiplets and a massive IO chiplet.

ZHAOXIN WON

THANK YOU ZHAOXIN

>>106739725
>why even compare yes no wonder it's light years faster
of course, because the cores are faster, the memory bandwidth is higher and the memory latency is lower
but if the 5800X was dipping the 14700K should be seeing asymmetrical scaling, the 1% lows should be much higher, proportionally, than the averages
you can measure these things
>maybe you don't play high enough hz to notice 500 to 300 fps dips
those would still show up on a frametime graph
which none of these youtubers seem to have open for some reason
the only way i'll ever consider a youtuber reliable is if they show full BIOS settings, hwinfo summary and driver control panel

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>>106739697
SEVEN HUNDRED NINETY NINE USD

>>106739818
it's just a large gameboy with no display

RX 9070 for $600 or 9070 XT for $700?

>>106739763
the amdip continues to elude us, this will not be the end of the amdip

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>>106739733
it's already over for them changs

120hz to 300hz is bigger than going from 75hz to 120hz. Why did everyone lie to me?
Also MFG is literally god tier, another lie I've been told

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>>106739977
one day someone is gonna make a video saying "i fixed the amdip!!!" and you're gonna suck their dick hard
i guess it's just a kneejerk reaction to reddit and channels like HUB that treat X3D like the second coming and spread misinformation about all non-AMD hardware

>>106740083
works on my machine LMAO

fucking AMD hating schizos

>>106740083
>X3D like the second coming
It is

>>106740132
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3240880604
post em

>>106740132
well zen 5 x3d is the third

>>106740118
who even wastes time hating parts manufacturers

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>>106740149

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>>106740072
how about 120 vs 160hz
will I feel the difference?

>>106740188
run it yourself
on your rig
the game is free

>>106740197
my time isnt

>>106740191
you might, not nearly as drastic as 60 to 120 though

>>106740209
>my time isnt
it takes 5 minutes to run
you can download the game in the background
prove that HUB is right

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>https://youtu.be/2ElLywmBAOM?si=rqEGaUQ-t_1bKzMa
>burn in after just 1 year of usage
>for a 1000$+ monitor
Oled niggers lost, miniledGODS win.

>>106740072
a doubling in jump should be the noticable tier and in your case it was even more so yeah
also reducing smear and getting more motion clarity is noticeable
everything that is an upgrade in pq is noticable
even more so when you use something shittier after

>>106740083
Jew*us recognized x3d had even higher 1% lows and averages, but now swapped the amdip to meaning it has slower asset loading after the dip happens, this is the current definition from the maker and creator of the AMDip™
idk maybe he changed his opinion

yeah all untuned intel is even slower
285k even more abysmal
they are all running even worse systems so yeah

>someone
there is only one man you are thinking of

>and you're gonna suck their dick hard
you are assuming hard here, I am not aligned what ever you think I am

I am confuse, are you defending intel
you can't compare a 5800x that was beaten by a 10900k to a 14700k though anyway
but anyway

>>106740191
2x increases are meaningful says the blurbusters guy
so I trust him

>>106740232
>>burn in after just 1 year of usage
genuinely can't tell if retarded or baiting at this point
same thing as with the linus vid when people could not watch 5 seconds more to see the pixel refresh running and cleaning up the image retention
I genuinely can't tell anymore
my faith for humankind has dropped so deep down I legitimately believe you all are this retarded without even trolling at this point, I accept it

idk what it is with these woled panels and asus they often have crazy image retention
qdoled won

>>106740232
>video literally says he has not had any burn in after 1 year of usage without any of the panel care shit turned on
kek. buy an ad maybe? cause you got me to click you faggot

>>106740286
That's a lot of tears olednigger. Just accept you're inferior to miniled and move on kek

>>106740307
>olednigger
that's a compliment

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>>106740232
I just bought a miniLED myself because I'm not into self-destructing monitors but let's be honest - miniLED is just another cope
sure, contrast is better than it used to be, but we still can't in 2025 have CRT-tier motion clarity that makes sub-100 fps completely fine, and that's messed up

If oledniggers are so rich why aren't they buying microleds hmm?

>>106740237
>but now swapped the amdip to meaning it has slower asset loading after the dip happens, this is the current definition from the maker and creator of the AMDip™
that's great then
just keep changing the definition around to keep your product relevant
pro tip: his audience can't tell he's full of shit, because if they could they wouldn't need him
>I am confuse, are you defending intel
yeah lol because HUB is also full of shit
14th gen is very underrated right now
14600K for $200 and 14700K for $300 is unbeatable, and you don't have to suffer with 8C16T
but if you say that on reddit you're gonna get a million replies talking about muh degradation and muh X3D

>>106740390
>that's great then
>just keep changing the definition around to keep your product relevant
maybe that was always the thing, it was just my interpretation
this has been going on for years at this point
I always assume it was simply just a DIP

>14600K for $200
14600ks were free on the bundle a moment ago though, free!

>HUB is also full of shit
>14th gen is very underrated right now
>is unbeatable
Literally Fra*eCh*sers approved

>14600K for $200 and 14700K for $300 is unbeatable, and you don't have to suffer with 8C16T
budget sure but a 9800x3d is the next tier without the fafo'ing

$50 RX 580, or $50 GTX 1650 super? I'll be putting which ever one I go with into a temporary poorfag build. I'll only be using it for playing games around 2019 and before, and *maybe* 3D modeling.

The only thing I can think of that might be an issue is Linux compatibility with the 1650. One the bright side however, it consumes less power.

Regardless of use case or current setup, with which do I get the most out of?

>>106740457
>I always assume it was simply just a DIP
which shows up in the 1% lows and on a frametime graph, no? or are we buying hardware based on vibes?
>Literally Fra*eCh*sers approved
yeah yeah but he's gonna tell you to turn off the E-cores which is cringe
at that point you just have a worse 9600X3D or 9800X3D
>budget sure but a 9800x3d is the next tier without the fafo'ing
tuned 14th gen is faster than stock 9800X3D
honestly even a tuned 9700X might be faster than a stock 9800X3D
i'd like to see a good example of that but it never happens since everyone who is interested in overclocking for gaming performance is just gonna get a 9800X3D anyway

>>106740564
>tuned 14th gen is faster than stock 9800X3D
it's literally not though, maybe some games is favored
you need a 14900k+800 dollar mobo+magic ram 8000mhz kit and days of tuning just to get to this point though
then you can talk about the dip
only worth it if you are hard core intel schizo
for normies, x3d already wo

>honestly even a tuned 9700X might be faster than a stock 9800X3D
we are talking games
you are entering the schizo zones fast

>yeah yeah but he's gonna tell you to turn off the E-cores which is cringe
I guess it's for the off chance of weird games that fuck up the shit due to them so

>>106740504
RX 580 8GB?

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i guess there is this graph that some anon was spamming before
looks about right but i'd like to see more examples
imagine trying to discuss interesting topics in /pcbg/ instead of AMD vs NVIDIA console war
>>106740637
>you need a 14900k+800 dollar mobo+magic ram 8000mhz kit and days of tuning just to get to this point though
lol no you don't
if that's the image you have of PC tuning i don't think there's much to discuss
the total platform cost for my 14700K setup was ~$450
>I guess it's for the off chance of weird games that fuck up the shit due to them so
you can configure windows to strictly prefer P-cores unless the system is overloaded
the real reason is that he doesn't understand how to configure the boost system, so he locks all the cores which is a bad idea if you have 16 extra E-cores active (you start prime95 and pop a breaker)

If we’re being real, AMD is the best when it comes to CPUs.

AM5 is still alive as a platform, so it’s the only one you should reasonably suggest or buy. Most people don’t have AM5 because they bought a prebuilt system that locked them into Intel.

For gaming, the X3D chips are just better.
For non-gaming, the X3D chips are still better.
For both, the 9950X3D simply does everything better.

You can’t “out-tune” this fact. And let’s not forget, you can also tune many of AMD’s CPUs as well aside from maybe the 7800X3D, which, even without tuning, is still better than Intel.

>>106740683
>obsessed with core count
>most shit doesnt use it but workstation tasks
>posts a benchmark of a game alpha
What are you on about again? Other than blatantly lying about literally everything?

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I wanna upgrade from my RX 6600 should I get a 5060 ti 16gb? I was thinking of possibly waiting until Black Friday and getting something better like a 5070 but wouldn't 12gb vram not be enough? A 5070 ti would be beyond my budget.
I just wanna run games decently at 1080p and maybe do some AI shit locally although that isn't a priority

>>106740725
Wait until the supers come out or at least black friday. Its like a month and a half away you impatient mong

Everyone already know 14900k are all faulty its just a matter of when not if.

Nobody should get the cpu or suggests it. Tech reviewer gave intel some grace by not discarding the card entirely.

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this is how you configure windows to strictly prefer P-cores instead of relying on the thread director
imagine taking matters into your own hands instead of relying on pajeet at microsoft to do everything for you
on linux the best way i found was to use scx_bpfland, sadly the default scheduler isn't configurable enough to make it do what you want
>>106740702
>you can also tune many of AMD’s CPUs as well aside from maybe the 7800X3D
nothing beats a tuned 9950X3D
but you can't escape it, even if you buy X3D
>>106740713
i said i'd like to see more examples
any volunteers? no? most of you don't even know how to turn on EXPO

>>106740641
Ye, I don't think it'd be worth it otherwise.

>>106740725
get the Vram

Maybe look around in the 4000s series for a better deal could be cheaper and more performant than latest gen

>>106740760
yea 8Gb of should be better than the 4GB on the 1650 super right?

>>106740683
>lol no you don't
>if that's the image you have of PC tuning i don't think there's much to discuss
>the total platform cost for my 14700K setup was ~$450
ok, but it's not beating a 9800x3d
which was the whole point

>the real reason is that he doesn't understand how to configure the boost system
I'm pretty sure he knows but he is against due to the boost algo or the core up down speed behavior and inconsistency between cores
in fact? whuy the fuck am I defending this nigga I don't even care, debate him or something
I don't care

>>106740702
14600k was a free cpu
how do you compete against infinite value?

>>106740747
still the best for gaming for intel
only worth if you are a schizo dipper
normies x3d is better

>>106740327
all new panels suck
you amount of zones of local dimming you need to make miniLED anywhere near decent no monitor has
You are just best of buying an oled and getting a warranty with burn in coverage
honestly I'd warranty any display you buy the tech is just too unreliable now

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>>106740804
>honestly I'd warranty any display you buy the tech is just too unreliable now
my thoughts exactly

>>106740788
>but it's not beating a 9800x3d
it does in CS2, factorio, mh wilds, etc
any reproducible benchmark i can find
i'm still waiting for that other anon to post his CS2 results
>he is against due to the boost algo or the core up down speed behavior and inconsistency between cores
right, he doesn't know how to set the energy-performance preference in windows so it always boosts to the maximum possible clock
and he doesn't know how to turn off TVB and make all cores run at the same speed
and he doesn't know how to set an IA VR voltage limit to keep the core voltage within a safe range
intel's boost algorithm is kinda retarded compared to AMD and it was definitely unsafe on the old microcode but if you undervolt and work with it you can get good results even with the E-cores active
>whuy the fuck am I defending this nigga I don't even care
lmao finally you understand

>>106740787
Aren't there other factors to take into consideration other than just VRAM?

>>106740830
>it does in CS2, factorio, mh wilds, etc
as we said, outliers exist

>CS2
buggy jank
>factorio
on giant maps where cache runs out on x3d?
>mh wilds
have not seen any

even the biggest intel shill J*wfus can't get it to beat a 9800x3d in absolute fps low and avg

>>106738590
its nearly double the ram speed and 2 gens worth of cpu upgrade. some workloads scale really well with that. wow uses a lot of lua for example.

Any precautions for a 9800x3d? Gonna pair with a DeepCool AK620 and MSI B850 Tomahawk.

>>106740901
it's fine but what gpu

>>106740504
With linux on the table, I would probably just do the 580. 1650 super is faster though and for games before 2020 4gb vs 8gb doesn't really matter, especially on cards of this class.
Can you maybe find a vega 56 for like $20 more? Those things are housefires but it's a good step up, like the uplift would be 50% or more iirc

>>106740804
>buy on sale
>buy open box
>get extended warranties
>get insurance if applicable
>employ free panel replacement strats if tv
>cost value analysis 3 years minimum for monitors
>flip one more burger and stop being poor
>consider buying tvs with included even longer panel guarantees
>buy used oled tvs for dirt cheap

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My 9700k died today, is this an okay cheap replacement?

>>106740901
don't be a retard, keep PBO turned off

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>>106740873
>have not seen any
stock 9800X3D does <130 FPS in mh wilds on low
i got 150 FPS when testing it before but that was on old settings, maybe it's better now
tuned X3D can do 200 FPS if you try really hard
and that game does actually scale with cores

>>106740863
Honestly at this level no.

1650 might be faster if you don't get the 4gb cap, but, 4gb is so low you're always going to be hitting that cap.

>>106740987
>7900xtx
>7950x3d beats 9800x3d

>stock 9800X3D does <130 FPS in mh wilds on low
>tuned X3D can do 200 FPS if you try really hard
horrendously configured one vs normal configured one?

>and that game does actually scale with cores
I doubt

>>106740969
It's a fine deal.

>>106741017
>horrendously configured one vs normal configured one?
EXPO is "horrendously configured" so yeah
you want RAM at 6600 1:1, or 8000 2:1, or better to get that much FPS

>>106741021
Thanks anon, i haven't paid too much attention to recent hardware and I wanted to stay under $500 if possible.

Glad I have a microcenter 10 minutes away.

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>>106740725
5060 Ti 16GB is around 3070 Ti's raster performance
5070 has a stronger GPU, having more VRAM is nice for local AI.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6600.c3696

>Super Series will be available in early Q2 2026

FUCK

That's half a year at least...

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>>106741051
The same CPU with a slightly better board and memory would cost over $600 without bundles, and they'd run games at practically the same performance.

>>106741072
Just Wait™ never ends.

>>106741072
You thought you could just escape the waiting? By the time those are out you should be waiting for the 6000 series.

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>>106741133
RTX 60 will launch in 2027 at this rate.
There's no reason to rush it out, given the competition.

NVD RTX PRO 6000
RTX 5080
MSI godlike
2x 8tb samsung pro
DDR5 6000 C34 128(64,64)


what do you think, I have crosshiar 4000d can it fit 2 gpus? I would upgrade to the 9000d but i don't want do any water cooling, what would be the best PSU I could get as well?

>>106741108
5000 hardware as it is now is very good
drivers are almost complete
meaning more vram on supers will be perfect
problem is that release date since by the end of next year 6000s will be coming

and then (if you go by patterns) if you owned gtx700 you know those had some great models (as did gtx500, i had both),
so waiting becomes a problem.
and then again 980 and 1080 were smashing it.

so, i would say this:
need to buy now? buy it
want to buy? wait for supers, but then you gonna hear about 6000s in few months

>>106741170
>RTX 5080
5070ti, sell it at loss when supers come then get 5080 super

>>106741072
>not waiting for the 7000 series
what are you fucking gay?

>>106741170
The card on the top will run hot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTnggqnC3ug

>>106741219
no you fucking retard that waiting only starts when the 6000 is released

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>>106741162
>RTX 60 will launch in 2027 at this rate.
Same with AYYYMD's UDNA shit. Hence why I said fuck it and got a 5090

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>built my first PC in June
>have been playing mostly old or last decade games
>today I decide to start Dead Space Remake
>game looks gorgeous at 1440p and runs like smooth butter at High settings
>fans blasting as soon as I start the game
>my CPU is reaching 90°C

So yeah...just using Firefox was already increasing the temps to 55°C so I think this more that enough to know that the stock thermal paste that came with my air cooler is not good. Recommend me thermal paste brands, please, I don't mind playing with the air turbine for a bit since I play with earbuds, but I'd rather get this fixed ASAP. Is Arctic or Corsair good enough?

>>106741305
What CPU and what cooler?

>>106741316
R5 7600X and PhantomSpirit EVO 120.

>new mobo has no loudness equalization
Fucking why, I hate realtek so much.

>>106741324
Nothing will change if you swap thermal paste or even cooler with default power limit those CPUs run super hot.
Consider using ECO mode, almost no performance hit and your CPU won't sweat every time you launch Minesweeper.
ECO mode is simply 65W TDP limit similar to how 7600 non-X work out of the box.
AyyMD tried to squeeze as much performance out of those ZEN4 parts as possible at the cost of house-fires.

>>106741305
>fans start blasting
uncapped framerate maybe.

I remember playing the CoD 4 Remaster on PS4 and it made the thing sound like a jet engine because there was no FPS limit in the menus, it was dead silent in-game

>>106741305
Read a PBO tutorial. Like literally just type in PBO settings for whatever your motherboard is into youtube and find the closest thing. You can reduce power and heat usage in like 2 mins with a few negative PBO offsets in the bios. I was in a similar situation to you but after making these changes it runs like 10C+ cooler (-15 offset).

>>106741371
Nope, I don't see an Unlimited option and it's currently set at 180Hz, and even if I switch it to 60, it remains almost the same, at most it only goes down 2°C.

>>106741367
>>106741412
Let me check those options, thank you. What gets my attention is that my CPU is not even at 60% usage even with Firefox open, yet it's still reaching 90°C with the game open or in the background, even if I close Firefox. I'll still change the thermal paste, better be safe than sorry, but I'll look into tutorials. Thank you.

Still, back to my original question: what brand of thermal paste would you recommend the most?

>>106741424
Zen 4 runs hot. Even on my system with a thermalright twin tower cooler I hit 80C in games frequently. My CPU isn't even as high clocked as yours because I have the F variant rather than the X. Just Zen 4 for you. But do the PBO offset and call it a day. It should make a noticeable change but don't expect miracles.

>>106741424
>Still, back to my original question: what brand of thermal paste would you recommend the most?
Its not going to change anything but I use Kryonaut Extreme, there are plenty of other options though

>>106741424
>>106741453
As for paste probably MX-4 or something like that. It shouldn't make a difference really.

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>>106741453
>>106741456
>>106741461
Thanks bros.

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>>106740987
>almost 160 FPS with new settings
pretty neat
tuned X3D still won though

>>106741510
Watch this to get an idea

https://youtu.be/FaOYYHNGlLs?si=hbD8ZLzMivAw70eR

>>106741324
>>106741424
>what brand of thermal paste would you recommend the most?
You don't need more than the Arctic MX-6, no point getting costlier pastes like a Duronaut if it's applied on a 7600X using a Thermalright air cooler.
Get the tower cooler's mounting pressure right; this is really important.

This video shows the installation of a different Thermalright cooler, but the mounting pressure part is the same.
https://youtu.be/Mm4hyIHe1PM?t=613

>>106741545
>Get the tower cooler's mounting pressure right; this is really important.
Hilariously it *should* be consistent due to the spring pressure on the clamp but you know... CHYNA

Every once in a while I get these random stutters of Windows, clicking different tabs in resource manager or using incognito tab in chrome
What could be the cause of it?

>>106741706
windows

>>106741706
Mate, it's windows you never know.
You can check Event Viewer for errors or run Process Monitor and dig through logs.
Have fun figuring it out.

>>106741706
Run Latency Monitor minimized in the background and whenever you get a stutter you can check the live log and see where the slowdown occurred.
https://www.resplendence.com/latencymon
Usually it's just Windows scheduler wigging out for a sec, having to wake up from a lower power state, or a driver. Might check these out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFH8u_283mM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbXzM60ad8I

>>106740733
>>106740767
>>106741069
thanks anons

>>>/wsg/5983872

>>106740733
>just wait a month for a 5% discount or 6 months for a 1% uplift

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Anon asking for thermal paste. Thank you a lot, I watched some videos about PBO and underclocking and now my CPU doesn't go above 75°C while playing Dead Space.

>>106741865
If he is considering a 5060 he clearly doesnt have the money really, so waiting for 5% might let him get a better card.

Oy vey

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forget about brand wars, who the heck is this sexy redhead in intel's motherboard manual from 2011?
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/product-brief/desktop-board-dq67ow-executive-brief.pdf

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>>106742327
>stock photo for lenscrafters but in a intel manual

>There are people who fall for the air cooler meme in 2025
Fucking grim.

>>106742357
>doesnt die in your path

>>106742357
there's not reason to buy an AOI unless you're overclocking or have an 16+ core cpu

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Is my 990 Pro defective? Why is random write so low? Had this drive for a few months but never did any benchmark because my old mobo only has pcie 3.0

>>106742374
update your firmware if you haven't already

>>106742374
Download the magician software and it will test the drive.

>>106742416
The test is from the SM software. I think they broke something recently because I updated to a new firmware few days ago. When I bought in in january it was on the latest firmware back then.

>>106742357
Air coolers are fine for gaming, including shader compilation.
You go with liquid cooling for multicore demanding workloads or if you like to overclock the PC.

>>106737735
There will be no other cards for RX 9000 series the 9070XT is the fastest Mid tier card you will get keep coping (yes even AMD themselves class the 9070xt as midrange again keep coping) you will need to wait till UDNA if you want better cards

>>106737906
Some people are just convinced that others picking "most reliable" is some kind of way to slither out of buying what they believe to be the best product for the price.

PC gaming is so inherently scattered and lacking any real institutional involvement that it's hard to prove "reliability" beyond anecdotal evidence and the "good consumer" thing to do is assume everything is equally reliable and only care about price/performance. To care about anything else means you have some sort of unreasonable bias because anything ouside of benchmarks cannot be proven.

>>106737826
You couldn't handle the real truth about pedovidia you little normie faggot go back under your rock and shut the fuck up

>>106737802
>we're all adults in our thirties here
Is this true? I plan on never growing old and have paid someone in advance to shoot me when I turn 30

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>>106742572
I'm not the faggot posting the same, stale webm for over two years.
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/fDu2tvfMgfY80adqKTbYzw%3D%3D/page/4/
That's cope. Won't unfuck your RDNA3 card.

>>106740301
dead pixels

>>106737826
>rt
now without rt this time, little jeet

>>106741345
download sonic studio lmao

>>106742626
>falling for the "raytracing is a meme" meme in 2025
Grim

>>106742601
dead pixels are not burn in

>>106742655
thats why i said dead pixels and not burn in. is language something you struggle with?

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>>106742626
>now without rt this time
Blame the faggot spammer for sharing a webm of Hogwarts Legacy RT enabled for the past 2 years.
Even FSR4 running in INT8 cope mode won't save your trash heap.

>>106742673
You replied to my comment about burn in, so your reply completely missed my point that was written in plain english.

It appears YOU struggle with language

>>106741324
Yet another poor soul fell for the air cooler trap.

>>106742684
>he didnt say this
>no, but he said this
>yea but i said he didnt say this
fuck off, troon.

>>106742705
You can just say youre retarded and wrong, its ok

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>He just doubles down
uh oh, i can sense a meltie bubbling just below the surface

>>106742704
should have bought a noctua

I'm listening to HUB's explanation again (properly this time) and the entirety of Steve's opening argument is:
1. Store guys say they are selling so much more AMD GPUs than equivalent Nvidia models
2. Quote numbers for above
3. Quote numbers for above
4. Store guys say they're unbiased
5. Quote numbers for above

>>106742780
noctua
spin on that thang

i can do a cheapo B580 desktop build or cop a used 4070 laptop, what do i choose? ive heard good things about the B580 for the price but these X vs Y performance sites are giving me kind of mixed results about the performance of each of them. what is /g/ choosing>>106737389

>>106742879
a whole system with the b580 would cost a lot more than a used laptop though

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>>106740969
>>106741021
>>106741051
>>106741080
Got it about 90% built

Thanks again anon.

>>106742980
Looking good.

>>106742987
Yeah I need to order a 90 degree adapter for my front panel USB 3.0 but otherwise it has gone well.

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64 gb ddr5 for only 165
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fB7scf/patriot-viper-venom-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-pvv564g640c32k

>>106737389
Just pulled the trigger on an ASRock b580 for my little bazzite home theater PC (case can't fit a GPU taller than 43mm, so pretty limited choices). It's going to replace an RX 6600 that is starting to have trouble with 1080p on the terribly optimized games in the year of our Lord 2025.

How fucked am I? Should I have just been less retarded and saved up a bit more for a 16 gig rx 9060 XT?

>>106743008
I thought assrock am5 boards were still not advisable?

>>106742830
I just built my brother in law a little fractal terra m-itx build with an r5 9600x and a 16 gb 5060 ti. I tried to convince him to give the 16 gb 9060 XT, but he felt more comfortable with team green considering it was only like $75 more.

I'd believe the 50 series is not selling as well. The 9060 XT is very quickly becoming the "default" budget/midrange build GPU choice, and that's what most diy builders are shooting for.

>>106743008
for linux the 9060xt might be a better choice for less potential headaches

>>106743028
It's the Intel Arc Battlemage ASRock card.

>>106743008
You fucked up if your CPU is older/weaker than a 5600

>>106742980
A man of action, grats.

>>106742764
Paid actor.

>pcpartpicker says 650w psu is enough for 5080 and 9800x3d
>nvidia says 850w recommended
>everyone else says dont go less than 1000w
who is lying to me

>>106738920
I'm pretty sure those ssds are qlc. Sn7100 and Evo 990 plus sticks are usually only $5 more and are tlc instead.

>>106743028
So, here's the thing. There absolutely are stability issues with the ASRock AM5 boards and the higher performing AM5 processors (the 9800x3d and 9950x3d in particular have really high failure rates what them ATM).

I have scoured forums and troubleshooting sites for numbers with the 9600x and 9700x, and it really doesn't seem to be a big problem on the lower power/lower heat AM5 CPUs. I guess I'll post here later if it blows up, but I've updated the bios as soon as possible and haven't been having problems with heat, voltage or thermals. It's been about 6 months since I first built it so far.

Either way, for itx AM5 boards under $300, you're basically stuck with ASRock. If you're dropping $500 on a 9800x3d or 9950x3d, you should probably spend the extra and get a more expensive and less risky Mobo. At that point you probably won't be able to cool it in the itx case anyways without doing some crazy mods.

>>106743080
850w psus are probably affordable so theres little reason not to buy one

>>106743053
It's got an r5 9600x. I built it this summer (a month before the stories of ASRock AM5 boards blowing up higher end AM5 CPUs lmao).

>>106743048
Okay, I'll keep that in mind. I guess if it's really too much of a driver headache I could return it for store credit within the first 2 weeks.

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>>106743080
650W PSU is fine as long as it meets ATX 3.x transient specs.
The 9800X3D won't exceed 165W (PPT), the 5080 won't exceed 400W.
Almost no game simultaneously runs the CPU & GPU at full utilization.

The price difference between a good 750W and 850W isn't much, so people end up buying 850W units.
1000W isn't necessary at all.

>nvidia says 850w recommended
Most likely to cover their asses, and accounting for people who own prebuilt PCs with plain 80+ lower quality PSUs.

I wouldn't buy a 5080 atm though.

>>106737389
This shit is so gay. I just built a new PC with a 5090 with no side window and no RGBs.

>>106743116
> I wouldn't buy a 5080 atm though

Waiting on the super, or for the prices to stop being retardedly high?

>>106743124
>the prices to stop being retardedly high?
Basically you arent getting much for the premium of the 5080 over the 5070ti all things considered.

Its sort of stuck in this no mans land of huge diminishing returns of price v. performance

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>>106743116
>1000W isn't necessary at all.
what fresh cope is this? 5090s pull 600watts easy and a 450watt intel brust means you need 1200 just to be safe.

>>106743080
1. Pcpartpicker only checks if number 1 < number 2, it does not take into account the efficiency curve and having spare headroom for power spikes and for PSU degradation from old age.
2. Nobody makes Gold 650Ws anymore. Bronze doesn't save you much cash.
3. 1000W gives you the most comfortable headroom without breaking the bank. PSUs are not that expensive anymore unless you pay for a brand name markup.

>>106743132
Wow, you're right. The last time I looked at prices for the 5070 ti and 5080 was back in July and I'd have said the opposite then. It wasn't that hard for me to find a 5080 for around $1300, and 5070 Ti's were up near $1100.

Now you can get a 5070 ti all day on newegg for like $800. That's a way better deal than the 5080 ATM. You're 100% on the money.

>>106743136
better to just hook a generator up to the tower just to be safe

>>106743166
Yeah 5080 prices have come down some but you wont find one under $1k and the models you might actually want are more near $1200. Its stupid desu

I went through the same pain trying to decide what to upgrade my 6950XT to

>>106743061
Helps when I can just pop over to microcenter in a few minutes.

>>106743136
You don't need a 1000W PSU to power a PC that has a 9800X3D and a 5080.

>>106743184
I laugh every time I see someone post their 5080 astral
They could have gotten a base 5090 for just $200-300 more

>>106742926
on pcpartpicker i cheaped out on everything for a b580 build and got it to around 800, around the same as what im seeing the lowest used 4070 laptops going for.

This might be a dumb question but are there any cases/builds that are sized somewhere between a traditional PC and a laptop? I feel like there could be a good middle ground between "giant heavy expensive monolith PC" and "weak as fuck non-modular expensive laptop"

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so the anti-anti-amdnigger got banned but the anti-amd nigger is alive and kicking and shitting up the thread
i wonder who could be behind this

>>106743275
Look at an itx build. The meme one is a fractal terra. It's overpriced, but I've built three of them so far for different people and it's a super easy itx case both in terms of the build process and keeping it cool. Itx in general limits your cpu and GPU choices though, as you'll have a hard time cooling your cpu if you go too beefy, and you'll have a hard time fitting the gpu in the same way.

>>106743275
There are ITX cases which are so thin you can only fit a downdraft cooler into and either a vertical GPU or no GPU at all. You can pick those up and move them around. But the bottleneck for portability is always the screen and peripherals, laptops were specifically made to address that problem.

Impressive the 5090 costs more than a Boox Mira Pro 25.3" color e-ink display.

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>>106743283
The prices are tempting, but I noped out of it.

>>106743275
There's plenty of ITX builds out there, NR200 is one of the well-known ITX cases.
https://www.coolermaster.com/en-us/products/masterbox-nr200p-v2/

ITX build using a different case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1rHpHN_3L0

ITX builds are not cheap.

>>106743136
how retarded must one be to recommend psus on the basis that literally everyone will buy a 5090

>>106743265
performance is going to be poor if you cheap out on the cpu and ram

I currently have an Antec P10C case, but I would like to switch to something similar to a Fractal Design Node 304 or Core 500 (in size/style).
Something like their Mood case would be good too but it's not compatible with standard ATX card.
Any ideas/recommandations?Is it even worth the trouble?

>>106743283
only one had an extreme Troon meltdowns

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>>106737389
Just a reminder. If you want coloured screws just buy them. Don't paint over them like a fucking retard (me) because you'll just strip the colour and potentially get them stuck because the paint binds them. First time doing an ITX build and its not too hard, just have to do things in order. I reccomend connecting psu cables on the mobo before installing on the case. Or really connecting anything anything before dropping it into the pit of big hand suffering known as this case.

i have an old rig with an intel 10105 in it, would it be silly to upgrade the cpu to something like a 11600k?

>>106743675
Wouldn't be completely crazy if you just need a small upgrade and can pick one up for like $50 used. Do make sure your mobo supports 11th gen without any PCIe fuckery.

>>106743216
so long as you got a new air cooler, amd requires a different bracket to intel-aviv no?

>>106743504
I also have that mobo
can you still access your SATA ports despite the proximity to the PSU?

>>106743675
11th gen is overpriced. I'd wait or move to a newer platform.

>>106741162
>tfw vega64
RELEASE ME FROM THIS HELL

>>106741522
>runs cinebench like twice

this is probably chucking WHEA errors out the ASS on any reliable stability test. Fucking hell

>>106743675
Check if your board has at least 8 inductors for vcore. If it's at least that good then you can get a 11700(f) non-k to max out your platform

>>106743967
if i remember it was a low end mobo (asrock h510m), so might have power issues for cpu above 65w

>>106743995
11th gen is pretty power hungry so save your cash and upgrade your pc to something newer

>decide it's time to upgrade from 3600x
>5700x3d no longer sold anywhere
Fuck looks like I'm going am5

>>106744208
5600x3d, 5800x3d used?

>>106744208
Just a 9600x will do. Upgrade so that your mobo has PCIe 5 for future proofing, then take a midrange CPU just like good old times. It will not be all that bad, really. The _600X are their best selling SKU for a reason.

>>106737389
Are portable monitors shit? I don't need more than 60hz or 1080p.

>>106744449
>PCIe 5
Nothing even comes close to saturating this? Why the fuck then? Let him be on am4.

>>106744208
The standard 5700X is a massive upgrade over a Zen 2. Like 4 intel generations.

>>106741248
I have an rtx 3060 12gb and I intend to run till it dies on me or my monitor dies and they've changed the ports.
I really wish everything would run off of usb ports.

>>106741324
undervolt your cpu and turn off PBO.

>5700x3d would keep am4 relevant for another 3-4 years
>they stop producing them so people buy am5 instead including new mobo and ram

those guys are so silly

>>106744489
50 series with x8 interfaces will suffer, and there will still be those small penalties for using the larger 50 series on gen 4. Getting gen 5 now will be future proofing. He already said he will get AM5, so I only stated it clearly to remind him to get a mobo with that interface.

>>106744584
If they were all-in on forcing AM5 they wouldn't have released the 5700X3D in the first place. Could have sold through the 5800X3D stock and reserved all the bad bins for OEMs etc.

>>106744653
>I only stated it clearly to remind him to get a mobo with that interface.
That makes sense.

>>106737389
KTC H27T22 is only around $95 in my country.
Is it legit?

>>106745171
I would buy it

>bought 2x 4tb samshit 990 pro for $150 each
>realized a few minutes later that I probably just spent $300 on some chink scam
>check with samsung magician
>they're actually genuine
huh, thank you mystery seller who probably stole it from somewhere

>>106745244
It was probably a office depot/max closing sale. That's how I got my SSD for half off.

>>106745171
Yeah it's legit. There's two different models iirc. Ones 165hz with better stand, the other is 180hz with worse stand.

>16gb ram sticks: cheapo 7200
>32gb ram sticks: anything above 5600 gets a notable premium
why?

>>106745378
lower volume product

>>106745378
>anything above 5600 gets a notable premium
because only hynix does that reliably at decent timings
16GB kits are rejects where they disable half of the die

>>106745378
lower timings will always cost more

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>>106743709
It just hadn't been mounted yet.

>>106745378
Lower CL costs more and high number means high CL

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>>106745402
anon, uhh, wrong way to position the cooler bro.

>>106745467
its okay as long as the tubes are above the water block. look how the tubes start at the top of the mobo versus under the mobo in your pic.