How to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>106727224
>>106737820>Blue Vidoactually good, better than my iems.
>>106737819trvke
Just ordered some AirPods Pro 2. Can't wait!
>wavelength by frequency>40Hz 8.5m (28ft)how's that possible if my ear canal has only 2.5cm?? isn't the law of physics being violated??
>>106737888Why did you buy that pos...
>>106737896Because I'm White
>>106737892iems give a 'fake' subbass response, you couldnt possibly know this as an unwashed pagpag
>>106737914https://www.apple.com/airpods/Oh no...
>>106737876Time to upgrade from those delta airs.
>>106737892waves how do they work...
>>106737658wait so if you are fat does it improve a tactile input or makes it worse?
are we comfy today lads? enjoying a pr2 on ru7
>>106737929Pro 3 are a scam and have barely any improvement over the 2
>>106738046That page and all its subpages have literally everyone except White men. The first thing you see is a sheboon. That's who airpods are for.
>>106738044>pr2 >enjoyingIt's over.
>>106738083
It’s Stax, for me
>>106737892It just means pressure rises and falls 40 times a second. And if you plug your ears with fingers that's 0Hz(infinite wavelength).
>>106738114great to have you back floorchud
>>106738111Good morning, sir.
>>106738154a true aryan from the heinrich himmler standard benchmarks of whiteness
>>106738206that's not the experience for 99% of peoplesucks to suck I guess
>>106738094pffffffffff. you don't own one :) nor do you know how many iterations of pr2 exist.>inbr they're all badyou never heard one.
>>106738111everyone with an iphone has at least 1 android device by now. and iphones are competitive enough in the second-hand e-waste market that android users might want one
>>106738489Why would I listen to a bad IEM.>inb4 it's goodDeaf.
>>106738499you know you're not really arguing anything. and thanks for agreeing you never heard it, I accept your concession.
>>106738529Wasting time on bad IEMs is why you have 0 good IEMs.
Using foam tips is an instant self-report that the comfort and the treble are shit.
>>106738544you lost already. give up.
>>106738593Thinking you need to own an IEM to know how it sounds is a newfag opinion.
>>106738626I accept your concession.
>>106738637who... who asked?
>>106738589I just started using the included foam tips because someone said they were an improvement.
So earbuds and headphones are clearly superior to iems, what about adapting earbud-iem convertors to full size headphone drivers?
>self important loser tranny keeps arguing with everyone ITT
>>106738609Some people can spend decades listening hundreds of IEMs being unable to understand it's all just FR. They just aren't cut out for it.
>>106738693because the cope isn't quite large enough yet give it another couple years
>>106738693>So earbuds and headphones are clearly superior to iemst. hearing loss enjoyer
>>106738609>>106738701this is totally not a samefag by the malding tranny lol
>>106738701All IEMs except the CVJ Luki, right? I never found a PEQ that could emulate that one.
>>106738719>trying to "find" a PEQIt's over.
>>106738713isn't that backwards? people with hearing loss need the treble pierce, people with normal hearing can hear the treble just fine
You cant fake your gender with HRT and you cant fake your gear with PEQ, common sensee
>>106738693>he doesn't know
nice samefag you got going pagpag
>>106738732>people with hearing loss need the treble pierceCorrect. Buds and headphones have no bass whatsoever.
Thread theme https://files.catbox.moe/2x09eu.flac
>>106738727Yet again the immutable truth of the universe that nobody has ever read the eq guide rears its ugly head
>>106738752My HE-R9 through OTL has bass, I can feel it in my toes actually
>>106738771Nobody with more than1 IEM can read.
>>106738777>a braphone with a brapamp has "bass"Come on man.
>>106738713>>106738727>>106738741>>106738752all me btw
>>106738741how is this any different than listening to things with earpro on
>>106738693really wish I knew IQ of some posters would probably be pretty eye opening
>>106738544>>106738609>>106738637>>106738693>>106738701If only we could see unique posters ITT
>>106738791It's the smoothest bass I've ever heard. Like, normal bias electrostatic smooth, except the HE-R9 can vibrate and move when placed on a table.
>>106738833what
>>106738778even if they could, the eq guide would still remain unread
https://files.catbox.moe/a27b68.flac
>>106738833What unique posters?
>>106738637I said that first today you rumplestilstken lookin ass ogre of a tranny. all I do is step away for a toke and already thread's full of anons with excellent hearing simply kicking your ass.
>>106738862>took him that long to inspect elementembarrassing
>>106738871>all I do is step awayJust like your dad.
>>106738145nothing like enjoying music with Stax earspeakers
/iemg/ is a travesty. Without bickering or samefagging threads will die, but the incessant bickering turns away newfags. What an unfortunate situation.
>>106738913
>>106738929You going for the new 007S or nah?
>>106738937All you had to do was buy a pair of HE-R9s for $53, anon. And all of this could've been prevented.
>>106738937blame it on literally one person.
>>106738969Foxzo? He has a bunch of sycophants so its not all him.
>>106738969I confess. I did it. I killed your thread by not samefagging in it enough. I'll do better next time.
>>106738981xhe thinks xhe's quirky and makes good coffee or something. thinks they know shit about fuck because their emotional investment literally resides in sean olive and harman related literature, only. cope is like a drug addiction. maybe xhe's on drugs. xhe's smart enough to know all these things and still chooses to be a serial thread murderer.
>>106738947actually havnt paid much attention to what’s new with Stax for awhile now, looks like the 007s it’s mostly just removable cables and new headband? most likely I’d seriously look into diy a tube energizer before buying new models, but no rush.
>>106738929Tired stax once, was instantly killed by the treble, posting from the underworld.
>>106739029Megatron, KGST or something else?
>>106738981>a bunch of sycophantsdon't be fooled by all the samefagging
>>106738937>without samefagging about fox iem thread will dieMaybe... maybe we should let it die
>do nothing>expose the shitposters for being denties
Audiophile shopping guide: RU7 ($175), TA-66 ($180), K11 R2R ($100), IEM of your choice ($0 aliexpress), cracked iPhone (just pick one out of a slut's purse), HE-R9 ($53), T50RP ($50), Nectar HiveX ($400), HE6 ($300), HD 700 ($140), 100g of Delta8 ($45), good taste in music ($0), ear picks
>>106738589overwhelming majority of pos have dog shit treble and too much pinna gain THOUGH
>>106739440post pinna
>>106739458Post gains
>>106739468>>106739458
Lan 2, or just buy the Hexa?
>>106738693First prototype.
>>106739620>>106738693Already a thing almost a decade ago
>>106739658>all the downsides of headpos combined with all the downsides of using an eardildosugeeee
>>106739658Garbage. and makes you bald from the headband. The point is to make portable, comfortable, ear clip deep inserting IEM with 50mm DD or an adapter for one.
>>106739711Also it uses tiny ass driver
>>106739620
>>106740030Nice, ordered in bulk.
>>106737820Yuki my beloved :3
You did get tested for auditory hallucinations right anon? You aren't faking your audiophillia because you're hearing treble that doesn't exist right?
>>106740081Everyone has them. Which is why blind tests exist. Audiophiles simply believe they're real.
>>106740081when I take off the un-EQ'd Zero2 and put on a decent pair, the problem goes away
>>106739440>too much pinna gainfalse
imagine buying a pmp when $20 chinkhelds exist
Can we get some non-butthurt HOF suggestions? We can just roll it back after the sperg spergs out but some options would be nice. Nobody has ruta 10, out. I suggest rosefinch as a bassy option and wankers instead of gate and cadenza - they never really stood up to wankers. Bunny should be a DSP only option. 90% the thread owns q1 pros so it obviously stays. I've never heard a cx pro model that doesn't hiss but apparently there users that are fine with it? I suggest ve odo instead. Nobody has jiezi + f**o, out. Maybe add some 4.4 dongle around $60 for the deaf, tp35 has 10 bands. And bring back "editions".
>>106740441just buy whatever's $5 on aliexpress at the moment, wait a week, repeat step 1
>>106740441>Nobody has ruta 10two anons had it and posted measurementsit's a good option, small and tiny but no issues like the chu 2, and it's tuned similarly enough toe the wankers>I suggest rosefinch as a bassy optionim down for that>wankers instead of gate and cadenza - they never really stood up to wankersgate is good and bright, wankers are not outdated but they are covered by the ruta10 and are just middle of the pack now while feeling cheap, having a subpar cable, qdc connectors, etc>Bunny should be a DSP only optionbunny in both variants is very good, no need to separate>dongles and shitidk, seems to constantly change>And bring back "editions".i really should get back to baking shit
Slap a $2 coupon on it and call it a day
>>106740267don't reply to me, old man
>>106740441man up and make ur own bake niggaall options are just safe and reasonable bets> Nobody has jiezi + f**oi have the 3.5mm version, it just werks and it has 10band peq with shelving filters unlike most chink dsp dongles, ur just a fiio hater
>>106740603>i have the 3.5mm versionPost
>>106740616
>>106740710Ok. Last time I checked 3.5 version wasn't even being sold.
>>106740228this literally doesn't mean anything
Why isn't edc pro in the OP?
What are the HD600s of IEMs
>>106740806no kz/cca pos>>106740809probably hexa
>>106740441I think gate should stay but cadenza can be changed to kb01>Bunny should be a DSP only optionagreed
>>106740494>bunny in both variants is very good, no need to separateits nondsp tuning is dogshit
>>106740539harman literally checked it and nobody was fucking changing 3k despite it being actually too much cause they used 5128 DFso "too much pinna gain" is literally just you issue
>>106740824it's fine, just the usual tanchjim tuning, and everything else about it is worthy of being in the op
>>106740809in what way? sound? a lot of IEMs are straight up better
>>106740832>nobody was fucking changing 3k>nobodyomg learn to interpret data
>>106740853>a lot of IEMs are straight up betterBull-fucking-SHIT.
>>106740879Never heard an IEM as low-res as hd600.
here we go, spewing harman literature like it's religion again
>>106740972training issue?
>>106740865Does this show that there was "too much pinna gain"?
>>106740879call 3 listener? You don't need bass or something?
3D printed a holder for my Tea Pros. I'm really like these IEMs, can you guys suggest something similar from Linsoul or another brand?
Letshuoer solved the IEM game/hobby with the S08 and the S15. The only thing you have to ask yourself is whether you should spend $80 for the S08 or $300 for the slightly better S15.A single large planar driver is the best configuration.
>>106741041ESL anon, Linsoul is a retailer, the brand is Xenns/MangirdPlenty of similar stuff, depends on what you're looking for>>106741046>A single large planar driver is the best configuration.Or, hear me out, a single dynamic driver.
>>106741041Is there anything you aren't in love with about the Tea Pros? And what do you most like about them? Let's start with these two questions and then we'll find an alternative for you.
>>106741041how's tea pros vs trn st7
>>106741041just EQtea pros are really good you don't really need anything else
>>106741046S08 didn't solve shit. not even for planars. making planars v-shaped isn't groundbreaking by any means
>>106741054Not bad either but planars just sound better to me.
>>106741081S08 isn't v shaped. It's neutral with a bass boost and has relaxed, controlled treble. It's end game stuff for most people.
>>106741054I'm not ESL, just relatively new to IEMs. I'd been using headphones since like 2005 and mainly just stuck to Sennheiser and Sony. Honestly, I got the Tea Pros for gaming to replace my HD 558s from over a decade ago because my HD 650s have weird audio when I play FPS games. I listen to a lot of music that's heavy on the bass so maybe something similar to that?>>106741063>Is there anything you aren't in love with about the Tea Pros?the awful bedazzled tier style on the buds themselves lol>what do you most like about them?The bass and fit.>>106741074Yeah, I guess I'll just stick with these for now and unplug them from my desktop dac whenever I want to use them with my daps.
>>106741046dogshit both of them
>>106741068I haven't tried the trn st7s
>>106740891trvked
>>106738609not dropping $0 to know how it sounds is a poorfag opinion
>>106741102best sennheiser is hd 700 best sony is hifiman he-r9 all you need is the will to spend $200
>>106740972>harman
>>106741099it's a planar that thinks it's a DD. nothing new.
>>106741102The Tea Pros are heavy on the sub bass but lean on the mid bass, so you like that? If so the Punch Audio Martilos have even better sub bass. Punch Audio is a Linsoul brand too.Or if you want a bit more mid bass focus (more punch), and you aren't treble sensitive (which you probably aren't since you like the Tea Pros), then the Hisenior Cano Cristales would probably be up your alley.The Hisenior Mega5EST is another option. Not as bassy as the other two but more refined and technical.
the history of digital audio:>sony uses 44/16 pcm for their vhs tape recorders and later CD>people realize running dac chips at a higher frequency sounds smoother and that 44/16 is a compromise>sigma-delta chips oversample using 1bit cuz less computationally intensive and lower power in spec sheets, new chips every year>sacd was going to be 96khz>pcm chips are on their way out>because oversampling is close enough to highres, sacd instead uses/develops DSD (direct stream digital) to bypass oversampling in the oversampling chips by having the format be the same 1bit oversampled signal>MSB pipes pcm into resistors, sells for $3000, nobody else figures this out for 15 years>people figure out how to pipe 1bit/sigmadelta/DSD into resistors
>>106741349>people realize running dac chips at a higher frequency sounds smoother and that 44/16 is a compromisecool fanfic lil bro
>>106741359won't stop me from reposting it until proven wrong
Wait until you see my sources
>>106740806op is a faggot
>>106741378show concrete results that higher sampling frequency results in "smoother" sound
>>106741506100 sigmadelta chips released every year. Well, that was easy.
>>106741506imagine 60hz video, now imagine it oversampled to 120hz. it's smootherimagine 44.1khz audio frames per second, now imagine it oversampled to 2.822mhz. it's smoother
>>106741538incorrect, i know it's hard for your generation to pay attention, but try watching this videojust be careful, it's 24 minutes long, might be a challengehttps://www.xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml
>>106741565>xiphand a happy dilation to you too xir
>>106741578i accept your concession
>>106741341I'll check out the Hisenior ones, they seem to have good feedback from people who got them.
>>106741349a modern delta sigma or nos r2r vaporizes cd spec
>IEM manufacturer is literally called Hisenior
>>106741623you're new, gamer.
>>106741410Personally I find a vouvray pairs best with most tanchjim products.
were these custom? >>106733256
>>106741582the circuit switches at a faster rate. your argument is >the human eye can't see past 23.978fps tier
>>106741643my argument is that the human ear can't hear past the nyquist f
>>106741658>>106741650that sounds like xiph bullshit to me senpai. the market decided chips simply perform better at a higher frequency. this was figured out before xiph was even formed and before people started cutting their dicks off
>>106741675right, then you also have the usual 6in thick cables resting on your cable risers with your own power supply if i'm not mistaken?
>>106741695i accept your concession xister, u did well gurlfriend...
>>106741716nta, but cringe
>>106741716so you draw the line at cables, what about low frequency obsidian vibrational optimizers?
>>106741538>imagine 60hz video, now imagine it oversampled to 120hz. it's smootheryeah it will look like shit
>>106741637yeah he liked p50 so much he ordered shittiest looking customs
>>106741782they're cute, I want dem
>>106741774now you understand my point thanks
>buy speakers>can't blast music at nightwhat's the point??
I'm Finnish, what type of IEMs should I get?
>>106742005A treble canon
>>106742057But anon Mongolian throat singing is mostly bass right?
lifting weights is essential for this hobby no i wont elaborate
>>106741758i draw the line at your mother if i fuck anyone fatter it's too regrettable
>>106742162listening to tatu increases maximal overload
Name my next IEM.Budget: $200Intended use: edm, pop, gaming, daily usePreference: bass, fun, clarityOwned: airpods pro 2, sony mdr-xb90exIs there any inline mic cable that isn't shit?Will get a JCally JM6 Pro for phone use.
>>106742214https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtzI8nX
>>106742214daybreaks
>>106742238you forgot to mention the coffee tips!!
>>106742249they come 4 free now :^)
>>106742214Ziigaat Odyssey
>>106742162based
best foam tips? I just started using some random ones I had laying around and I love the sound and isolation it gives.
>>106742214https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKTtS9T
>>106742249So, is Listener a proper faggot? As in he, unironically, lets other men fuck him in the ass, and he derives sexual pleasure from that
got airpods pro 3 today, they slapwas unimpressed in store by previous genalso I have a fucking beyerdynamic xelento 2, which has frayed cable near the speaker, in the service and they want to charge me $450 for the "repair" (just an entire new band), faggots desu
Thoughts on the Delta IEMs?
>>106742443Can be tuned to perfection with EQ. Just read the guide.
that's it bros, quitting this thread/hobby for good. i ruined my ears finally. selling all my audio shiti had the volume turned up way too high and i accidentally blew my left ear out, have permanent left-side tinnitus now. what's weird is that my hearing threshold test is healthy and nearly flawlesspicrel, you can see that my left ear can't properly pick up mids and highs anymore, it's borderline in the noise
>>106742452can't eq driver quality
>>106742469my threshold is normal for some reason
>>106742475correct, the distortion on the delta airlines is too high
>>106742469Stop being such a fag, people go to concerts and blow their ears out all the time and still engoy music. You'll know it's over when one day you hear a click in your left ear, you can't hear anymore, the world starts spinning and you pass out unconscious and wake in the hospital.
>>106742469that's fucked up. my job fucks up my hearing occasionally but I never thought IEMs could do actual permanent damage
>>106739071would need to refresh what I had in mind, t2 seems likely but it’s been awhile since I originally looked into what would be involved etc
I've had the AKG q701s for a while now, around 10 years. They sage uncomfortably on my head even when ive tried replacing the elastic (which never lasts that long) and the left ear has started having some occasional crackling issues. Are there any other similar / better alternatives that are open ear? Right now they are run from a Behringer U-Phoria UM2 USB Audio Interface (which also as that also runs my AT2020 mic. I also use this interface to just physically swap between the headphones and my Bic america FH-65B bookshelf speakers but i would be okay getting a different interface / DAC for better headphones if required. Please help me out with some suggestions. They almost exclusively get used for gaming/voice chat and sometimes music (usually during gaming). I've always liked the open ear and the pretty neutral sound. I like the looks as well and they were comfortable initially but for a long time the first year or two i had them i hung them from the strap which the elastic is attached to rather than the plastic band. Would like to hear suggestions, dont really have much of a budget involved. The audio interface is plugged directly into mobo USB, i dont have any dedicated audio board but i could get one of those as well if needed.I do have a steelseries arctis nova 7x wireless gaming headset but the sound quality is definitely worse (and the mic on it is much worse than the AT2020) so it doesnt get used much unless I'm in the home theater couch gaming.Would like some suggestions as it has been a long time since ive looked into headphones and it feels like getting another pair of these same cans probably isnt the right call
>>106742842forgot to include image
>>106742842>>106742859>>/hpg/
>>106742863/csg/ is the only place that mentions headphones and they point here. Guess i can keep an eye out but i feel like i havent seen a /hpg/ in a while. Seems like these could be one general.
>>106742900then make one, /iemg/ and /hpg/ hate each other, water and oil (both super heated, immediate explosion and combustion)
Can /iemg/ pass the transjim iq test?
>>106741966buy a large property out of town and move there
>>106743398I CAN'T SOLVE THIS SHIT WTF
>>106742842>AKG q701garbage
>>106741349Oversampling was created by people that know the sampling theorem, not by audiophile retards. And the sampling theorem says there is no difference between infinite bits, 16 bits and 1 bit. The purpose of oversampling is to spread dithering to ultrasonic frequencies to increase the dynamic range in audible frequencies and to reduce the complexity of the low pass filter - the sampling theorem requires a brickwall low pass filter which is impossible to build in practice.>>106741538Deaf retards using visual analogies for audio, classic. The smoothing is done by the low pass filter. Two filters in case of oversampling DACs - one digital and one analog. There are no "frames per second" or "staircases" in the output of a DAC, unless we're talking about audiophile retard DACs with no filter - these do have staircases.
>>106742842People say aune ar5000 is pretty comfortable. Maybe focal elex or other focals. Maybe r70x but the reports are conflicting.
Ibasso dx180 the best dap for around $500?
>>106742863welcome to 4chan, newfag
hi /g/ im really confused on what i should buy since I plan to launch a yt/ig page. I want something with:>good microphone >okay audio >wireless/wired doesnt matter>under $30i checked the recommended stuff up top but i couldnt really get any info about the microphone quality T ... T
>>106744360get a real mic or fuck off, nobody wants to listen to your crappy earphone mics
iems sound like dogpoo unless youre a pagpag
i'm getting butthurt and devastated because there is apparently not a SINGLE set of headphones that fills my use case>around ear, closed back>focused entirely on audio, no microphone required because i use a table mic>wireless connection by dongle and NOT bluetoothi figure i will have to buy a gaming headset and toss the mic, but it seems difficult to tell which gaming headsets are actually good and which ones are bad, because audiophiles call all of them unequivocally shit (despite almost certainly never having used the specific pair under discussion) whereas the gamers that actually buy them rate them all 5 stars because they have 0 standards whatsoever
>>106744615Just because it's not bluetooth doesn't mean it's not bad. Audeze maxwell has a detachable mic. It's tuned to Harman but has channel imbalance, clipping amp and dying drivers. Everything else is even worse. Just use IEMs nigga.
>>106744422dost thou have any recs for mics (preferably under $30)? something i can just carry or clip into my shirti know this isnt the thread for it (sorry)
Need recs, I liked the Tangzu Wan'er 2 so I'm into v-shapes I guess. I listen to a lot of shit from multiple genres and play a lot of video games.My budget is $100 but I can go a little bit over.
>>106744360>>106744708>youtube channel>cheap garbage
>>106744708at that price point whatever you get is going to sound pretty shit. i once spent like a 100 dollars on an antlion modmic and recorded audio quality was still garbage. i ended up getting a hyperx quadcast for cheap and stuck with it because people say i sound very nice and now there are gay dudes and an occasional woman hitting on me when i play gamesif you're going to make content then you are best off getting a used condensor microphone. aside from that, it becomes very hard to recommend anything because there's only bad and worse
>>106744859to elaborate some more, i think the main reason i don't like headset microphones is because of how much they warp your voice. my quadcast was the first microphone to actually pick up my deep voice properly instead of turning it into this weird muffled, nasally mess. another example is that one of my female friends went from sounding like a 12 year old boy to actually sounding like a woman when she started using a condensor microphone. they are definitely harder to use than your typical headset microphone though because of how easily they pick up audio. yet another one of my friends heard us having better audio quality so he bought a condensor mic too, but he just stuck it on his table with the default metal stand it comes with and yells at it from afar, so now his voice sounds shittier than ever and every time he moves something on his table, it is loud as fuck. he keeps complaining that not a single microphone works for him and all i'm going to say is lol i wonder what the constant there is. anyway that was just an anecdote of my life to help better explain why i am upset over headset microphones
>>106744905You have friends and money, this enrages my fe(male) pagapino mind.
>>106744859>antlion modmicI sure hope you did not fall for USB AIO meme.I spent thousands trying different mics, audio interfaces, mounts and various accessories and best quality and convenience option is 3.5mm modmic with XLR to 3.5mm 5V adapter and XLR 48V audio interface.A proper mounted desktop setup can sound just as good but you have to sit at exact optimal distance from the mic, can't just walk to the recliner in the other side of the room to take a nap while on call.Audio interface makes HUGE difference for condenser mics, that same 3.5mm modmic plugged into my motherboard (or ironically antlion usb adapter dongle) sounds worse than anything else I've tried, wearable or desktop.
would transjims still buy their waifuslop if they found out the anime girls are all AI grnerated?
>>106745284asano tanch was concepted by tony taka
>>106742214Fox IEM, endgame.
Are wireless flatheads with 8+ hours battery life possible?All the BT-MMCX adapters seem to be 6 hours or less.
Burned in TRN ST7 overnight and most of yesterday. Best soundstage and detail for $20, still bright as fuck like 90% of IEMs. EQ fixes it
>>106745434burn in is not a thing
>>106745504it actually is you just need to remember to re-apply the titanium oxide if you burn it in too much
>>106745515it isn't
>>106745504Burn in is a thing
>>106745563Dreaded f**o BA pos has measureable burn in, good IEMs don't.
>ZiiGaat x Jay’s Estrella>Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite>ZiiGaat x Fresh Reviews AretePicked these up to try and got them off Amazon for the return policy.
>Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140Do NOT recommend this shit. I got memed, and they're disgusting. The highs are muddy, voices are are veiled and there's barely any detail above the bass. Avoid them like AIDS.
>>106745621Tips collapsed inside the ear or insane hearing loss.
>>106745626>insane hearing lossNo, my headphones sound like paradise compared to this shit.>>106745626>collapsed inside the earI don't know, the smaller the tips, the worse they sound.
>h****** ***
>>106745583I burn in everything, I'm not a NEET so I don't always have time to listen right after I get the box.
What the fuck happened.
>>106745621Don't spend your $140 on ear dildoes, spend it on HD 700 like this smart anon: >>106739410
>>106745669On the headphone that nearly killed the company? Lol.
Yikes!
I like my FiiO M21 a lot. I don't think the iBasso DX180 is that big of an upgrade is it?
Are they legitimately good?
>>106745563no it is not>>106745662what you are doing doesn't matter. burn in is literally not real and even if it is its influence on FR is inaudible
>>106745583people using 1 measurement without proper controls from super of some fucked fiio BA pos as proof burn in is real is fucking hilariously stupid... And even then it was barely anything
>>106745621proof you even have them?
>>106745683goddamn what in the fucking hell even is this
>>106745716you faggots don't understand how to use graphs... At least show jm-1 for this coupler... Or any well measured IEMs like I dunno daybreaks lol or even fucking EDC pro at least.
>>106745800wasted dubs on schizo posting
>>106745683This is who's calling IEMs e-waste btw.
>>106745674HD 700 is the only veilheiser meme worth buying
>>106745588Aliexpress return policy is just as good if not better. I like it when they just don't feel like shipping it back and let you keep it at a discount.
>>106745777some manufacturers recommend burn-in in the literature that comes with all their pos.
>>106742469Why did you have so high volume?I've used IEMs for over 25 years and this has never happened to me.
>>106745855they're literally recycled driver revisions subsidized by aliexpress, anon. do you also get mad when we call them 'chinkhelds'?
>>106745783Like I give a fuck whether you believe me.
>>106745669I already have DT880s at home, I need portable stuff.
>>106746006I have them too but I've never used them because I can't get them into my ears.
>>106745683It's the only headpos I recommend from Shitheiser. It EQs like any bright IEM
I'm really liking the clear resin knob on my new Element IV.>>106745890I've had Amazon start doing that with some returns. Anyways, some of those have same day shipping so I'll get them later today. I picked up a pair of Punch Audio Martilo's too to try out.
>>106745683>>106745668>more retards who never read the EQ guide
>>106746015They're painful at first but you get used to it. Smaller tips help. They still sound like shit.
>>106746015Unironically dilate.
>>106746020and by bright IEM I mean IEM. if I'm being reductive
>>106746045>>106746060I'm just scared of pushing them in. I'm worried of blowing my ear drums out.
>>106746076Now's not the time for fear. That comes later.
>>106746076Just think of your first anal, it's the same.
>>106746084>>106746098I'll try again when I come back to my house next week. I bought them two years ago but never tried them.
>>106746060>>106746084I'm retarded and these posts made me laugh.
I read the EQ guide and immediately purchased TRN ST7, HD 700, Sgor Venus and other unlistenably bright IEMs. What else should I buy?
>>106746114Of coursh.
>>106745902who gives a fuck? they are retarded and selling you snake oil
>>106746141>NEET with no patience mad at burninmany such cases
>>106746006you faggot misunderstand. you are raging pissing and shitting and screaming at US to not recommend universally recognized deep fit IEMs. Which by the way basically only ones that neutralize length modes.So at least prove you even heard them before we start taking your lame ass seriously.
>>106745588>>106746021I forgot to mention I'm also trying to find the perfect IEMs for FPS games. I basically use Amazon to demo stuff because they don't give a shit about returns unless you really abuse it.
>>106746158VX Pro+
>>106746015yeah I'll never buy them because 100% I will not able handle them in my ears LOL
>>106746110do you think you have overly short ear canals? normal ones are like 2.5 cm you'll be fine
>>106746147there's literally no proof burn in exists despite people trying to prove it for literal decades
>>106746189there's also no proof you'll get a job
>>106746157I bought them, I heard them, I hated them. There you have my proof. Maybe you shouldn't recommend shit based on what you assume as "universally recognized" but stuff that you actually tried yourselves. The entire OP is probably a collection a shilling garbage that no one ever remotely used but recommends based on paid influencers' "recommendations".
>>106746141seethe harder. nobody's fault but yours that you choose to buy crap. >>106746157>weby that you mean you. also, you're ESL>>106746189pretty rough hill to die on. in spite of being wrong.
>>106746098I'm a top though.
>>106746215I'm a landlord so don't need one sorry
>>106746261>pretty rough hill to die on. in spite of being wrong.you'll fail to prove me wrong
>>106746189The entire thread relies on graphs to appreciate sound quality lol. Of course they'll believe in burn in as well. That's also why the rotational velocidensity meme is such a successful bait.
>>106746304Unless you have multiple properties, you're just a poorfag with extra steps.
>>106746343Graphs literally show it's not real tho.
>>106746040There is no EQ guide for headphones because you can't fix headphones.
>>106746372don't be jealous now
>>106746373They literaly do lol. You're retarded.
>>106746393Being a poorfag is worse than being a NEET.
>>106746394you can't be serious you fucking braindead troglodyteplease tell me you are joking...
>>106746394Headpos law is on a roll today.
>>106746317you'll be begging for graphs and measurements. even though burn-in isn't nearly as important a factor as fit, seal, audio quality..plus drivers are literally motors, with moving parts. at the end of the day, you can't measure psychoacoustics.
>>106746373>>106746402>>106746404Seethe.
>>106746409>even though burn-in isn't nearly as important a factor as fit, seal, audio qualitytruebut it also not real>plus drivers are literally motors, with moving partsthis doesn't mean anything>you can't measure psychoacousticsyou kinda can tho by using you know... your EARS
>>106746417tell me what the difference is between these graphs
>>106746444pipe down poorfag, you'll never recover
>>106746394>>106746417Headphones are not IEMs. Pad wear is not burn in. Your dogshit has 15dB variation from fit alone.
>>106746444trips of you trippin balls. you're really not willing to be wrong about this, either, that's why you're annoying. >you kinda can tho by using you know... your EARShow do you measure HRTFS?
>>106746417https://www.soundguys.com/headphone-burn-in-isnt-real-17463/
>>106746492>you're really not willing to be wrong about thiswilling? I'm simply not wrong>how do you measure HRTFSI mean if you want to measure HRTF you literally can. It's not exactly easy or viable but it is possible.But do you really need to when you have both measurements and your ears to HEAR the difference between them? That difference is your psychoacoustic's contribution.
>>106746476>>106746498>gets btfo>starts moving goalpostsfine cope this morning thanks iemg
>>106746546who got btfo and who moved goalpsots where?
>>106746546>if I don't what burn in is I winFucking dent head lmao
>>106746476>headpos is bad because I don't have the skill to put them on right every timebad argument desu, there's a dozen other qualities you can bring up that won't make you look badyes, putting on headpos is a skill
>>106746558I think you are too stupid to have this discussion
>>106746551>>106746553You said "burnin isn't real" when this statement is blatantly opposite to what the graphs show. Post your own graphs if you have a problem with this.
>>106746558You do not have the head shape required to put on headphones like they were put on on the rig.
>>106746571>discussion about burn in>posts pad wearRetard. You put on fresh pads and that "burn in" is gone.
>>106746603>>106746603>>106746603
Remember to burn in your brand new TRN ST7 if you don't want to end up like these mouthbreathers.
>>106746566the retard called the other retard stupid
>>106746571>You said "burnin isn't real"it is>blatantly opposite to what the graphs show.you literally do not understand what graphs showPlease explain to me how on earth were you able to confuse pad wear with burn in?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWd2EAhsLroHidizs live factory tour
>>106746594>>106746578>>106746566>>106746553>>106746551I accept your consessions.
>>106746668says the retard who does not understand the difference between burn in and pad wear
>>106745683aint no one defending the 700the 800 is the one with the weird cult defending the hearing aid level treble spike
endgame
>>106747580sheeiit
