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How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18
• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35
• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8
• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18
• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

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>>106727051
Tilt sounds like shit.
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Xixtas, no more upper-treble stabby peaks!! Buy Nora for a cozy sound!!
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>>106727204
>that's nowhere near vdsf
moondrop follows their own target exclusively. they used and marketed it for the og lan, so of course they're using it for lan 2.
>>106727199
derivations of df just end up being preference curves or pretend to be reference curves that are used flippantly as raw preference.
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What do we call the effect that boosts the bass when you're listening with one earpiece inserted only. Or is it just me.
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>>106727300
oh I think that means your ears are dieseling bro, you need to go to doctor and ask them about it
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Let me guess, you need more. EDC Pro and Cayin RU7 R2R is endgame.
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>>106727338
r2r is a meme
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>>106727343
>he needs more
This is why you'll never achieve endgame
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>>106727224
>ARTPICAL LUCIFER
>$500
wow that's a lot for a single 10mm DD
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>>106727362
you'd think it'd be special, but nope, just the same old generic 1dd tuning
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>>106727353
for pos, that's a bit overkill, boss. tubes for pos are a meme as well.
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>>106727338
How does the EDC compare to ZSN? ZSN Pro X was such a bad fit for me I had to return it. Do all KZs follow similar shapes/proportions?
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>>106727418
>Do all KZs follow similar shapes/proportions
no
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Already sold out.
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>>106727463
I think the ZSN's nozzle was too short for me. Or more generally the length from the ear-facing base to tip of nozzle. How does that compare to other KZs?
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i was looking into the epz q1pro but it seems to be tuned worse than pos from 6 years ago, why is that?
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it’s Stax and tube amps, for me
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>>106727224
>music

What about portable media players that can fit inside your backpack & play almost every codec without lag spikes?
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>>106727526
too short for you might be perfect or too long for someone else, honestly.
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>>106727281
>moondrop follows their own target exclusively. they used and marketed it for the og lan, so of course they're using it for lan 2.
Are you brain damaged? Do you understand how graphs work?
Now stop wasting my time
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>>106727300
does the effect persist when you are just lowering other channel to zero instead of removing other earpeice?
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>>106727494
dang people will buy any scam this days...
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>>106727544
tuning is a matter of preference. What's worse for you is better for somebody else. (also tuning doesn't matter when you can just EQ anyway)
There could be cases when tuning IS bad if it has very obvious downsides like unwanted peaks or bloat but it doesn't.
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>>106727688
I know. That's why I'm asking about a specific objective parameter rather than some sort of generic "comfort" level.
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>>106727544
Because anti-epz schizos lost.
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>>106727771
so the simgot ea500lm is tuned well according to you? interesting
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what if i want the slow driver with long decay and bad resolution?
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>>106727870
Ask chatgpt to hallucinate you some options. Because if you're referring to impulse response then there's no such thing in real life. Audiophiles sometimes refer to midbass heavy tuning with no treble as slow decay.
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>>106727870
epz q1pro
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>>106727826
Not a used, pre-clogged, filter modded ea500lm, no.
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>>106727870
Hd600 made me understand what people mean by low resolution. You won't find low resolution in IEMs.
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>>106727900
proof q1pro has long decay?
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>>106727735
gettin pissy doesn't really help you win lol. your pic kinda proved me right, by the way.
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>>106727826
for some people (deaf) maybe.
for something to be "tuned well" we'll first need to establish what the goal was when manufacturer was tuning said IEM.
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>>106727982
>your pic kinda proved me right, by the way.
maybe if you are a delusional retard
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>>106727961
wtf did you just say about my hd6xx high fidelity headpos!
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>>106728047
your emotions cloud your judgement. and we're talking about pos lol
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>>106728112
talking about irrelevant shit like emotions will not help their shitty lan 2 tuning to be anywhere near their shitty vdsf target
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>>106728036
yes i do agree all epz owners are deaf that much is obvious
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>>106728135
lol you are so mad
why are you so adamant on shitting on q1pro tuning? people do not buy it because of tuning. It's a cheap but comfy pos.
But what about your $90 piece of shit 500lm?
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>>106728155
i dont own lm anymore lol, youre the one upset even trying to guess what pos i use
q1pro is tuned like shit this is a fact
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Remember to read the EQ guide if you don't want to end up like these dumb retards.
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>>106728179
will never happen
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>>106728124
you dying on that hill is laughable. you can keep that ;p
>>106728171
are you only going off graphs? bet you never heard an epz in your life
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>>106728197
>are you only going off graphs? bet you never heard an epz in your life
now listening impressions matter? have you heard the lm?
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>>106728207
I have heard it.
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>>106728232
same, can confirm q1pro sounds worse than 6 year old pos
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>>106727755
I don't see you putting out recycled IEMs with AI-generated anime girls on them. Chop chop, make some e-waste.
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>>106728155
This is the entire reason why. If foxzo were using something else he'd be seething at that instead.
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>>106728241
>foxzo using something good
almost as likely as someone reading the eq guide
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>>106728171
You are mentally ill... I never even tried to guess what pos you use you fucking braindead monkey lmao
You are avoiding the question tho? Why are you crying about tuning when q1pro is recommended for comfort? You can EQ it easily without any problem.
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>>106728239
now listening impressions matter? ;p
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>>106728248
See, he's seething already.
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>>106728197
>you dying on that hill is laughable. you can keep that ;p
irrelevant shit again. how are you so stupid that you think you are winning when everybody can see that lan2 is as different from vdsf as it is different from jm-1
with your logic might as well say that it's tuned in line with jm-1 lol
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>still paying for sound
>in 2025
what is this disease called?
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>>106728267
Profound mental retardation.
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>>106728267
people rather pay than read EQ guide
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>>106728262
>with your logic might as well say that it's tuned in line with jm-1 lol
just give up. moondrop tunes all their shit to vdsf. you want to argue that it's not 'perfect'. good god, you're still wrong and making no real counter whatsoever. cope elsewhere
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>>106728249
anything can be recommended for comfort its literally unfalsifiable, i could just as well recommend the obravo racucu for the comfort and youd have no counterargument
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>>106728278
You need EQ no matter how much you pay tho
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>>106728287
fake commie tranny news.
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>>106728284
Racu is more expensive and doesn't have 3d printed shells.
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>>106728303
irrelevant the comfort is the best
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>>106728331
3d printed shells have better comfort(fact).
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Can your dumb ass create a thread for yourself again, nobody likes you, the last 3 threads were perfect.
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>>106728287
that's the funny part
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>>106728346
cool story bro
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>>106728365
i don't know how to do that, can you do it for me?
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>>106728284
>youd have no counterargument
price, retard
dude you are so fucking stupid lol why are you arguing? show me more comfortable pos in the same price bracket. you fucking tool
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>>106728365
He can't, he still hopes foxzo will fuck him.
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>>106728346
3d printing is not inherently more comfortable than any other manufacturing method, midwit
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>>106728386
i can say bunny is the most comfortable or gate or kz edc pro or whatever the fuck i feel like because comfort is not a real argument
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>>106728287
That's not 100% true, EQ is just a shortcut but there is no reason for a passively tuned IEM not to sound perfect
After 2 months of final make4 tuning I have found a config which finally sounds so good I don't bother with EQ
Although I did use a coupler to fine tune some nuances like channel matching and length modes
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>>106728386
change your tampon dude.
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>>106728432
>Although I did use a coupler to fine tune some nuances.
if you eq'd anywhere below 1 kHz and above 8–10 kHz based off your coupler, you're wasting your time and ours.
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>>106728432
Passively tuned IEMs can never reach tuning quality of EQ. They would have to be tuned for 1 person and wouldn't be as good for every other person. Unless you lower your standards.
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>>106728461
>tuning quality
get the fuck out. there's no "one right way" to listen. eq is cope.
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>>106728490
t. shitty tuning enjoyer
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>>106728500
t. gatekeeping arbitrary shit
t. shitty pos enjoyer
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PSA: when you use 1 pos for some tracks and 1 pos for other tracks you have 2 bad pos.
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>>106728179
I already EQ'd the treble out of my e-waste using the guide thanks
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>>106728529
did you eq on the toilet and use the guide to wipe? otherwise i cant see how it could help considering nobody has ever read it
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>>106728523
>ESL
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>>106728537
>i cant see
My condolences.
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>>106728559
who are you quoting?
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iemg, more like schizo central
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>>106728559
Trvthnvke: he can't read the guide because it's not in braille. Guidezo, you know what to do.
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i need a good rugged pmp, for running with and general outdoor use. what are some decent options? I don't care too much about hifi fag maxxing, i just need something that is quality enough to be abused and still work, while also being cheap enough for me not to feel bad about it.
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>>106728458
I used EQ to match the bass wheel clicks and also I added a small additional metal ring inside. The end result does not require any EQ and can be used as plug-and-play device from any source.
>>106728461
>They would have to be tuned for 1 person and wouldn't be as good for every other person
This just calls for a need of a personalized tuning. EQ is just one of the options. Given my experience in audio I would always prefer a good passive system over an active one Its like genelec fans jerking off to anechoic speaker on axis response flatness while consciously ignoring omnipersistent amplifier hum. Although active solution is almost always much more cost efficient.
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>>106728608
Genelecs still need EQ. They even give you a measurement mic to EQ.
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>>106728423
literally 0 chance bunny is more comfortable but maybe
>gate or kz edc pro
pfff yeah no
>comfort is not a real argument
as opposite to tuning which is totally a real argument lmao? get real
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>>106728608
I thought you meant 711 coupler.
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>>106728432
what kind of fucking argument is this? like sure theoretically you can tune your pos to not need EQ... but it is not viable for like 99.99999% of people... and retuning your pos is basically analog EQ anyway. So it's still EQ.
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>>106728677
eq is dsp. 'passive tuning', is not eq.
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>>106728523
it's true
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>>106728598
m0 pro.
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>>106728633
and you base this on what
>it feels that way to me okay
worthless argument
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>>106728682
>eq is dsp
no? eq is equalization it is not necessary dsp
IEMs are minimum phase so there's no real difference between analog tuning and EQ anyway so your point is moot regardless
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>>106728689
can it be used without the screen, I'd prefer something screenless, or not screen dependent. I'd like to be able to operate it with buttons from a stowed position in a pocket or clipped out of the way.
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>>106728716
>IEMs are minimum phase
don't say 'moot point' or 'minimum phase' ever again. you're sitting there itching to argue with anyone about anything. you're still wrong and crinacle is not your priest.
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>>106728690
net research
I honestly have not seen one person who would call q1 pro uncomfortable.. Unlike gates and edc pros tho (even in this thread)
>worthless argument
unlike tuning you can't EQ comfort. a lot of people bought q1pro and praised it's comfort
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>>106728747
>crinacle invented minimum phase
New level of brain damage unlocked.
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Personal ranking based on comfort for those interested
>Q1 Pro and/or Bunny/4U/Fission
>Ruta10
>Chu 2
>EDC Pro
>Gate
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imagine arguing for graphs and subjective experience in the same breath
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>>106728747
don't chirp when grown ups are talking
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>>106728764
he's the only one in the pos-sphere pushing that term. try harder chud
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>>106728773
Imagine being explained 10+ times how anatomy affects the FR and still not getting it.
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>>106728782
you are mentally ill
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>>106728782
>only one
sweet mother of newfags...
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>>106728782
Lurk more.
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uh oh, samefagging melty pretending to be 3 anons again. how grueling
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>>106728811
Ask chatgpt who is chuzo.
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>>106728811
pathetic
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>>106728834
no, work on your english some more
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>>106728844
Work on not being a newfag.
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>>106728850
you're too much of a nobody to be gatekeeping here of all places, rajesh.
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>>106728862
You're a newfag. Lurk more, learn a thing or two.
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ok so what're we calling this zo? kind of uninteresting/generic, so i can't really think of a nickname. maybe blindzo?
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>>106728757
>net research
aka you asked your discord tranny friends
worthless argument
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>>106728886
>he's watching video reviews
ngmi
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>>106728887
instead of sperging out you could've i dunno show people who found q1pro uncomfortable... but you just can't help yourself
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>>106728886
it's that narrow-minded thinking that gives you away. enjoy being a dunning-krueger statistic
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>>106728905
i asked my friends and they all said it sucks
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>>106728877
It's simzo, looks like his used pre-clogged pos clogged completely so he's on the prowl for a new pagpag.
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>>106728886
>can't read
>has to watch videos
>complains that other illiterate seafags make videos since they can't write for shit
you guys aren't so different in the end
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>>106728912
All 0 of them?
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>>106728926
its net research
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>>106728912
sure they did
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>>106728888
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>>106728928
it is funny how an idea of calling q1pro uncomfortable immediately wasn't even on your docket until I brought it up
and you allegedly heard them (was this also a lie?)
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>>106728947
because i never seriously made the assertion that its uncomfortable
i was simply illustrating that comfort is not a real argument
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Most comfortable-iest POS in existence?
HAS to be >$2.5k
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>>106728958
obviously because it's one of the most comfortable pos out there for just $30 (and lower on sale)
>i was simply illustrating that comfort is not a real argument
well you failed and just exposed your retardation It's even more stupid because you unironically thought your tuning shit was a good argument
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Are IEM (wired) safe the body and brain? Considering RF effects, they should produce no radiation?

Looking for a wired pair with great passive noise isolation and audio quality to listen to music or podcasts while exercising, connected to a smartphone. But safety is still number one priority.
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>>106728991
says who? you? i say it sucks and you have literally no counterargument
>well you failed and just exposed your retardation It's even more stupid because you unironically thought your tuning shit was a good argument
its leagues better than yours, at least we have measurements that show tuning
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>>106728991
even if he is wrong, you're a deplorable and don't know how to talk to people. nobody's learning shit from you with your head up your ass.
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>>106728962
The more you pay the worse the comfort.
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>>106728999
>Are IEM (wired) safe the body and brain?
you'd have to be a retard to even ask this question ngl
>Considering RF effects, they should produce no radiation?
yes, go outside into the sunlight and you just did a billion orders of magnitude more damage to your body with radiation
just listen at safe volumes and you'll be fine
>>106728999
ANC tws or fucked up shit like etymotic pos
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>>106728962
Earpos are not comfortable, it's imposible to stick something inside an orifice of your body comfortably for long periods.

Only headpos can be truly comfortable and even then not really.
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>>106729004
>i say it sucks and you have literally no counterargument
i say this about techs and suddenly every techfag gets mad, it's literally the same lol
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>>106729041
Bald.
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>>106729042
can't eq techs or driver implementation.
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>>106729042
>i say this about techs and suddenly every techfag gets mad, it's literally the same lol
now you're getting it. arguing a pos is good because you and your discord friends thought it felt good in your ears is literally the exact same level of argumentation as "techs better"
congrats on coming to that realization
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>>106728559
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>>106729004
>says who
everybody who tried them
>i say it sucks and you have literally no counterargument
you already lost your chance to go this way lol because even you know that they are very comfortable
>its leagues better than yours, at least we have measurements that show tuning
meaningless
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>>106729050
*pirates your techs and driver implementation*
Nothing personal.
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>>106729075
>everybody who tried them
everybody said it was bad actually
>you already lost your chance to go this way lol because even you know that they are very comfortable
lol when have I ever said that?
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>>106729010
people?
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>>106728598
whenever i see konata she reminds me how much i love fucking teen asian girls. idk why, it's just her
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>>106728623
You are missing a point. No EQ is going to fix ambient amp hum.
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>>106729032
RF radiation even at microwave wavelengths has been found to cause DNA damage through forced activation of the cell membrane electrosensitive ion gates which can result in free radicals entering the cell which can damage DNA causing cancer, or altering ion concentrations in the cell.

This has been researched in dozens of studies and the "heat effect only" paradigm of RF health effects has been debunked. The IACR has recognised these findings by rating RF radiation as possibly carcinogenic in 2011, however external pressures by the industry and governments have prevented them from recognising the huge amount of scientific research that proove the cell ion gate theory.
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>>106729076
>IR is not everything
and neither is FR.
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>>106729041
>it's imposible to stick something inside an orifice of your body comfortably for long periods.
that's false
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>>106729093
You're right. Your pos has worse distortion than mine.
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>>106729096
you couldn't discern harmonic distortion if you were paid for it.
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>>106729090
What exactly is your point. The argument was that everything needs EQ and you named 2 things that need EQ. Shitty built in amp is just a cherry on top.
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>>106729052
>arguing a pos is good
nobody actually was arguing that.
you just want to sperg over nothing. I was jsut telling you that q1pro gets recommended for comfort and as a EQ platform (because contrary to nonsense from spergs like you their drivers are good actually)
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>>106729093
so what is it...
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>>106729109
You personally couldn't. I of course can.
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>>106729109
training issue
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>>106729117
oh so you admit the q1pro is a bad pos?
then we have no disagreement. i have no problem with people fixing bad pos with EQ and using them because they enjoy the little pedo cartoon on the side, live and let live as they say
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>>106729093
Name 1 measurement... Or a combination of measurements... Anything that hasn't been debunked yet...
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>>106729050
>driver implementation
what's that
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>>106729122
picking one measurement and saying it's end-all be-all is ignorant
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>>106729125
baldy really had it going for him when he came up with that one hehe
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>>106729144
I pick every measurement and your pos loses in all of them at the same time.
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>>106729139
Gods love
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>>106729130
harman trained? piss off
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>>106729149
nice. good on you. you da man, possibly.
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>>106729154
Didn't even look at the UI award.
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>>106729144
so which ones...
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>>106729144
we picked ALL measurements already
even more we explained to you specifically why all of them do not matter
what the fuck else is there for you to fall back on? cahtGPT again?
>ignorant
but you are the ignorant one. you didn't read the research. you don't even understand the argument. you are just ignoring everything and keep repeating same dunked drivel.
be better
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>>106729164
I'm only familiar with UTIs from fucking trannies
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>>106729173
oh shit should I be concerned? i fucked foxbum last night
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>>106729154
no training or education
pathetic
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>>106729164
can't even read the guide, you expect illiteratezo to use a piece of software?
i mean just look, can't read for shit>>106729173
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>>106729172
if you want me to go full chatgpt+grok on you tonight, I will. this past week or two has been shit for /iemg/ anyway, would be nice to shake it up.
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>>106729179
It's over.
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>>106729191
do latest grok
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>>106729179
xhe doesn't believe in protection, so avoid. you can't fuck xher, I however, can....or something
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>>106729113
You are still not quite there.
Lets say you have two absolutely identical on-axis speaker frequency responses matching your preference measured on a mic. One of the measurements was achieved just with EQ, and the other one was achieved by room treatment and positioning. I hope it is clear which one is going to be acoustically superior and which one is more quick and practical.
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>>106729185
everybody can read the guide but nobody will, very sad
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>>106729212
you can't apply speakers as argument because IEMs are minimum phase
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>>106729212
You need EQ with room treatment. Stop playing around.
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>>106729230
>IEMs are minimum phase
opinion discarded
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klippel nfs for ear dildos when?!?!?
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>>106729230
your iems are minimum phase, my iems are maximum phase
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>>106729247
t. doesn't even know what it means
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simzo my GOAT
kill em all
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>>106729259
Obsoleted by maximum fox.
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>>106729274
this is no time for jokes you dont have AIDS right? i forgot to take my truvada last night
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>>106729247
elaborate
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>>106729291
I don't elaborate with terrorists.
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IEMs?
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>>106729311
Yes.
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>>106729332
yuck
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>>106729299
okay that was kinds funny
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>>106729351
IR measurements were a 9/11 for him. First his mind broke then his IEMs.
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summoning floornigger
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>>106729372
He can't hear you. Or anything really.
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>>106729377
well obviously not because im posting text, no speaking to him
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>>106727224
What's the DAC in op? Is it a dongle with USB-C PD and usb-c dac?
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>>106729367
your english is getting better
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>>106729386
It's ddhifi TC44Grip.
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>>106729193
based Sylveon tranny
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Remember you can't enjoy a stock IEM. You gotta EQ length mode resonances out.
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>>106730125
I don't have those
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Are there any cheap Comply knock off tips sold on aliexpress?
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>>106730174
wrong
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>>106730125
horrible advice.
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>>106730243
I'm built different, the power of Harman trained all resonances out of my body.
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Another horrible day in my bitch ass life
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My snow aria finally started to fail so I need a replacement.
>Budget 200 can go a bit higher if needed
>I'm mostly use it for music in my room
>I listen to everything
>I have the snow aria and sennheiser HD490 pro, I like them
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>>106730613
What kind of sound would you like to have? L shape, V shape, meta, neutral, bright or what?
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>>106730613
tanchjim origin or nora or fission
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>>106730613
why would you spend 4x my entire collection on just one IEM? do you have brain problem?
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>>106730882
a brain problem*
work on your grammar if you wanna talk shit
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>>106730901
sry senpai
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ne wayz my question still stands: R U haeving... BRIAN BROBLEMS???
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>>106730654
I'll have 2 number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda
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>>106730613
daybreak
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>>106730882
the sloppiest of goyim
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>>106730654
I prefer neutral but I'm open to recommendations.
>>106730707
>>106730971
Thanks anon.
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>>106730125
Headphone BVLLS and Speaker GODS don't have this problem. Ear dildos forever inferior.
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>>106731199
pay rebnts
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>>106731199
lawzo melty incoming
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best recommendations for a mic cable and eartips for 7hz salnote zeros?
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>>106731712
also it wouldn't be worth it to get the 2nd verison of the zeros right? i've been told that the first ones are already end game and i don't really need to upgrade unless i wanna experiment and try new stuff, had the first zeros for around 2 years now
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Probably the wrong place to ask this, but do any of you know of some 3.5mm earbuds that have a volume control built in? I bought a shortwave radio recently and it's too loud even on the lowest volune setting (minus muting it). I could probably drop $30, nothing fancy.
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>>106731786
$2 volume control adapter
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>>106731786

shortwave radio has usb? maybe soundblaster x11
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>>106730882
Hey, you're here every thread and you seem attuned to KZ pos-ery.
I'm only getting one of these, what do you recommend ? You can say neither and recommend something else.
I'm also getting the EDC Pro to see what the meme is all about but those are 4 Euros so I'm getting them anyways.
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>sound blaster
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>>106732184
Idk anything about those two. I just got the cheapest things from the coins page and liked Castor, PR1/PR2/PRX and Krila. You might have to wait and keep checking. Sgor Venus and Adonis are cheap right now. Use coupon codes >>106614345
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also celest rue is $7.58 with 11% off
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>>106732184
>$0 pos
>pays €4 anyway
what's really your budget?
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Thoughts on the Moondrop Robin?
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>>106732184
The ZVX Pro is one of the best budget IEMs out there right now.
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>>106732688
Is it worth getting if he's already getting an EDC Pro tho
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>>106732775
The ZVX Pro is probably a better buy than the EDC Pro if you get it with coupons or coins.
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>>106731199
Headphones have so many problems that you can only trust 200Hz-1kHz on their graphs. And speakers have room modes and unequalizeable off-axis response.
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Why does my breathing sound so heavy when I wear IEMs? I don't notice this with headphones/speakers.
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>>106733075
Occlusion effect.
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>>106732579
Those are some dainty-ass looking shells. If a girl was wearing them, I think they're cute. If a guy was wearing them (99% of the time) I'd think they're either a transvestite or someone who REALLY likes to embarass themselves in public.
>CAPTCHA: NYGAN
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just had a good idea about an app
what if we had something that let users see how different cables and tips would look like on different pos
could be a fun tool to see what would be aesthetically pleasing. you could change the hardware of the cable, the material, or the faceplate
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>>106733218
That's photoshop mate.
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>>106731190
>>106732579
Reject tws.
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got some xenns tea pro and I'm liking them a lot but is there a way to replace the bedazzled looking design they decided to use on the outside?
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>>106732579
pretty decent
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>>106733015
I was enjoying my speakers yesterday, its a pleasure an unwashed pagpag like you will never get, they simply cant be compared to iems
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speakertranny_target_graph.png
Endgame speaker sound etc etc
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>>106733409
no? I guess you can glue something different on top...
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>>106733900
>they simply cant be compared to iems
why not
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I feel deep emotional connection with Chu 2. It's more than just an IEM, it's the voice of my younger self calling me from the past. It may be true that top tier IEMs like EDC Pro sound cleaner, more open and detailed, but Chu 2 has soul. Listening to it is meditative and almost therapeutic, lets me discover deeper layers of my mind.
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>>106734089
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Is btr11 still the best chink bluetooth dac at its price range?
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>>106734281
>hiss
no. stretch that out to $50 and get a hiby w3 II instead.
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>>106733900
Post in-room response so we can have a laugh.
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>>106735378
post your hrtfs so we can have a laugh
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>>106735452
post your hrt tits so we can have a laugh
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>iemtards discussing physics as if it matters though treble cannon e-waste again
cute
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>>106735624
Physics is why treble is bad.
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>>106735378
Gigacope
Room treatment and calibration are well-researched subjects with extremely effective solutions.
How IEMs respond to different ear canals is not only nowhere near as researched, but it's much more difficult to correct for. IEMs have high acoustic impedance due to working with a very small, deeply pressurized volume of air. That means the shape and size of your ear canal, as well as insertion depth, will make the audio that reaches your eardrums have
a significantly different frequency response than the graphs of the $20 e-waste that you jerk off to. Worse yet, unlike a B&K 5128, your ear canals are not symmetrical, meaning IEMs will magnify that asymmetry into significant channel imbalance.

Ear dildo poorfags forever coping.
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>>106735693
Not seeing the response poorfagzo.
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>muh speakers
>look inside
>logitech
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>>106735656
>iemtards thinking physics is on their side or that it's their strong suit
cute
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>>106736183
Chatgpt lost.
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>>106727338
Ngl I was trolling at first but this combo is baller; RU7 is too smooth, EDC Pro is too V-shape, combine the two and whoa I can actually listen to this for more than 5 songs out of the box. I _could_ spend an afternoon EQing out the remaining problems like with an iemg rec and a sabre or shitty conexant dac, but I could spend that time having sex or jerking off to child porn instead. Thanks Cayin for making my e-waste listenable, time really is money.
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>>106735693
eh
you are not exactly wrong but I really do not hear any channel imbalance in my IEMs (and even length modes are at pretty much the same frequencies)... unlike something like headpos which not only have random fucking peaks depending on the fit but also huge fucking dips that are pain to deal with
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>>106727265
>stupid expensive for zero ultima-like tuning
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>it’s a $60 chu 2
moondorp does it again. Your choice between generic V or so shouty that your balls will rip out of your ears
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>>106727265
best 82 cent iem i've ever heard desu
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>>106736927
>xhe doesn't understand theres no more stabby air peak and it's not a bullet w/ a cheap fixed cable
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imagine getting mogged by sub $8 iems every time
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>>106736998
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>>106736951
if it turns out to be chu 2 with better techs I'm looking for, it's an instabuy
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>>106737033
can't you just plug your chu 2 into R2R and tubes for better techs
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>>106731166
Truthear Hexa or XuanNV are the two neutral/mids focused sets to go for in that price range.
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>>106732184
Get the AM16 Balanced
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>>106734003
Your whole body hears the speakers, while IEMs only produce sounds in your ears.
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>>106737080
trvked
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>>106737080
iems with sub bass vibrators perfectly simulate speakers.
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>>106737098
no they don't asshole stop lying to yourself. i have a cvj luki and i know you're full of shit
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>>106737051
R2R does not have better techs sir it has better tonality and more analog and warmed and rounded sound but sigmar delta has better techs
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>>106737134
just set your r2r to nos and upsample to 384KHz using your 'puter
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>>106737109
you clearly forgot to buy the internal sub bass body immersion extender.
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>>106737051
>R2R
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>>106737098
No because real bass is felt throughout your whole body. Bass in IEMs only vibrates in your ears.
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>>106737153
>>106737228
Anal IEMs to simulate sub-bass when
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You can buy a bass vest like this and connect it to your iems. It won't be exactly the same but it'll be closer.
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sisters.... we're making ourselves look too bad in front of the headpos users here... this cope meta is too strong
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>>106737080
>Your whole body hears the speakers
uum no your ears still hear speakers
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>>106737228
what if track doesn't have a lot of bass?
how strong the bass should be for you to actually feel it?
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>>106737405
Tell that to Beethoven. Oh wait, you don't know shit about music or audio.
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>>106737422
Could Beethoven read graphs?
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What's going on in /iemg/? Oh LORD.
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>>106737422
lmao what a stupid thing to say..
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should we tell him?
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>>106737405
Low frequencies have a tactile input, specially around the torso, that obviously cannot be replicated with IEMs
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>IEM users confuse eardrum treble rape for experiencing music
it makes sense now
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>>106737658
and? be honest do you actually really care about that?
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>>106737687
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>>106737687
you've been crying about treble for a while. did you forget to take your meds or something?
maybe try getting IEMs that are less bright?
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>>106737714
t-then what is it
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>>106737720
the category of chinese e-waste is all bright, that's why they need EQ
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i miss a new ziigaat release
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A few months ago my brother's earbuds died and he bought some from a store and they were absolute trash.
This year I bought him these as a birthday gift: "LINSOUL 7Hz x Crinacle Zero:2"

Amazon shipped them faster than expected so they're in my drawer until October 31st.
He doesn't have a dac/amp so I hope it works well.
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>>106737767
If he is fat he gonna love them.
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>>106737780
I thought chu2 was designed for fatties
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>>106735693
Why do you waste your time talking with these pagpag scavengers? Just pop in from time to time, call them brown unwashed trannies, and go on with your day. They are LITERALLY third world asia brown turds, theres nothing for you to speak with them.
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>>106737731
everything needs EQ because of different acoustic impendence and insertion depth.
there are literally the opposite of bright IEMs like wyvern black remaster if you want them. there's no real reason to cry about treble like a retard.
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>>106737820
>>106737820
>>106737820
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>>106737822
every iemg rec is this jackass
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>>106737767
t-thanks for your blog?
zeros 2 are usually well received (also giving a literal $0 IEM as a gift is pretty amusing)
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>>106737847
It wasn't $0 I paid like 25 for it. That's a normal gift amount unless it's my mom where I might spend 50
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>>106737863
you... PAID for a zero2? tell me this was like 4 years ago lol
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>>106737837
not really? gate's treble is rather mild
like dude you literally have no idea wtf you are talking about just stfu lol stop embarrassing yourself
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>>106737880
i'll buy it for $0 but it's still going to be either
1. one of the 4 iems i have that aren't iemg rec memes
or
2. an iem i literally won't stop shitting on for 10+ threads
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>>106737871
i might have made a mistake then
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>>106737847
i gifted a kz prx and a waner1
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>>106737894
buy wyverns black remaster instead
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>>106737707
Do you even listen to music?
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>>106737950
the easiest question to answer in this general
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>>106737950
with my ears not my ass
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>>106737985
you can't be too sure in iemg...
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>>106737985
>/iemg/ autists have never been to a live performance
Makes sense
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>>106738007
I was and I can't say I care much about them
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>>106738007
they don't have the money... if they can't afford a $0 IEM then how can they afford to dress and travel to something nice
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>>106727224
>Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140
How can you recommend this shit? I got memed, and they're disgusting. The highs are muddy as hell. There's no detail above the bass.
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>>106737819
There's nothing I hate more than a filthy poorfag



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