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>Actually Useful Links
Industry News — https://news.ycombinator.com
GitHub Trending — https://github.com/trending
r/cscareerquestions (industry banter from a rookie/cuck perspective) — https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/
r/ExperiencedDevs (industry news from a jaded adults perspective) — https://www.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs
r/overemployed (industry news from Seniors those that "Get It") — https://www.reddit.com/r/overemployed/

always remember, there is a guy saying "nothing on my end" and then proceeding to have raw sex while people wake up, deal with traffic, road rage, get killed by bad drivers, get stressed from office politics and driving and lose there hair, no time for gym or nutrition because of commuting, and then you get taxed 40% on top of it all for Israel

I will never fucking go back to the office

Old >>106712401
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Move to Japan, there are still plenty of tech workers needed there
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>>106739797
Sprint Planning was Today

I was assigned one story for the whole sprint

I literally took care of my ticket and to some fault, had ChatGPT polish it/automate it

this is my actual PR....this is all the code I will be writing for the next two weeks....that will be three thousand US Dollars Please...fully remote

me and this Puerto Rican chick are about to hae fun in San Francisco then I'm going to Breckenridge for a Ski Trip, then Brazil for Carnival;

I Thank Jesus Christ everyday for my reality
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>>106739858
Mari? is that you? it's Retired Citizen
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>>106739865
>FAQ link generator
now THIS is software engineering
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>>106739907
I love how we're going back to on-premises, Systems Designs type interviews

I told yall 1337code was for cucks....I was right all along, sure, I left some money on the table not getting balls deep into React at the start and also not moving to San Francisco

but who gives a fuck, I'm still here nigga
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>>106739941
damn, she's got some nice DSLs on her
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>"When dealing with people, let us remember we are not dealing with creatures of logic. We are dealing with creatures of emotion, creatures bristling with prejudices and motivated by pride and vanity"
is he right?
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I thought about sharing some pro-tip jobhacks, but after consideration... there are probably PMs in this thread. I should keep these tricks to myself.
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>>106740110
100% keep that shit to yourself, anyone not in the game right now is sidelined until fucking 2026 at the bare minimum....probably 2027

>>106740089
did you not see my PR? the hardest part of my job is making up a job for QA to do

the only thing that matters is stacking/investing, traveling, health, and sex
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What should I do if I have literally nothing to do or work on?
We have this sort of a weekly review where we talk about stuff we are doing but I literally have nothing on my table.

I've been trying to ask people if they need any help and/or if there are any things that I can take over in the back log but there is nothing.
Should I just completely bullshit and come up with things on my own?
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why do i get 5+ invites from random indians on linkedin every week?
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>>106740496
say you were jumping in when people needed help and that you studied some new technology even if you didnt
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>>106740496
"I was reading some documentation"
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>>106739797
I feel like being a window washer on a skyscraper would be kind of fun.
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the government shutdown will be the beginning of the end for feds and DoD workers. billions will die.
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>>106739797
What's the point of having windows you can't open? If there's some gas leak or fire, you'll die pretty fast.
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>>106739858
Working on my n5 vro...
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Yet another our best talents retiring...
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>>106739812
>if you're not having raw sex, you're losing...and I don't say this in jest
i do this but only if i know/trust them
at the company meetup i ditched my coworkers for a grindr date. No sex but we did some gay things and he liked me well enough to buy plane tickets to come visit. We might do butt stuff then
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>>106741389
>gets replaced with Tw*stzz
sad day
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>>106741678
Twistzz should igl and karrigan should coach
Neo can leave
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>finally get help in dept
>coworker is actually retarded and knows nothing about computers
>doesn't know what WLAN card looks like
>has never taken a laptop apart despite being hired to be in charge of deployments
>is confused that a PC may have intel drivers in it despite being an AMD cpu and convinced the pc is broken
>find out he is getting paid more than i do despite the same hours but me also being on call and here for 5 years

so do i just leave or try to negotiate a pay raise based on inflation?
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>>106741900
>>has never taken a laptop apart despite being hired to be in charge of deployments
The future is Cloud and Software Defined! Deal with it nerd!
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I quit my job with no notice on friday and this is my first week of consulting full time. I'm making less than the full time job + consulting, but I'm only working 40hr/wk, and I'm not expected to be on call during the day. Pretty comfy.
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>>106741900
>he thinks "deployments" means larping as a laptop repair monkey
If you don't even have AWS certification do not post on my thread. You are nothing. Go away.
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>>106739865
that's it I'm going to church this sunday
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>>106741900
>>has never taken a laptop apart
Use case? Why would you take a laptop apart? If it's ""broken"" just reinstall Linux.
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>>106742001
>Use case? Why would you take a laptop apart?
Literally this. Just restore your backup on a new laptop.
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>>106742001
we're in user facing IT in manufacturing, idiots break shit all the time
>>106741994
a monkey could get an AWS cert, but i am stuck managing a 40 host legacy VMware stack
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>>106741995
Is it your dream to make $78k while doing minimum work? You should aim higher than that, anon.
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>>106742013
'i did not log into one drive or use the net share and i was at home and and need my files because i spilled coffee on it'
devs are more retarded on average than you think
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>>106742028
>40 host
Lmao. You're a little baby! Come back when you have global cloud architecture. An AI could do your entire job for the year in one second.
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>>106742028
>manufacturing
Use case when everyone has a 3D printer and what few luddites don't have one yet can get a Bambu practically for free?

>>106742043
Just give them the admin password so they can log into the laptop. Why do your IT cucks have to make everything so complicated? Is it because you're so jealous of Developers that you have to be the biggest blocker just so senpai notices you?
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>>106742050
anon what are those retarded buzzwords PLC networks do not belong on the cloud
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>>106742064
How will the 10x Devs be able to maintain the stack if it's not reachable globally?
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>>106742064
what do you think the P in PLC is for it's property of the SWEs and you will give the admin passwords and we are putting it on the Cloud by 2027
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>>106742094
i do want to get rid of our older SMB shares but retards completely bricked it before i got here with literal new folder->new folder->shortcut(3)->mew folder->IMPORTANT MARKETING FILES in like 200+ separate directories
they dont even know where shit is but insist we cant change it or they will have a disrupted workflow.
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>>106742131
You can't fix it because you aren't a 10x Engineer. Maybe learning a trade is more your speed.
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what salary is good and not for an IC
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What mouse+keyboard do you use at the office? I've been using the cheap generic ones they give out but they're starting to show bad wear and I've been having connectivity problems with the mouse.
Been thinking to replace them with something more ergonomic. The logitech mx keys/master seem to be the current meme and a few people have shilled to me but are they actually worth it?
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>>106740496
download fun with a pencil and become a drawfag, if you end up with more w*rk and m**tings you can draw shit during them
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>>106740913
in a high rise youll die even faster if you jump out the windows
they dont usually have natural gas (outside basement boiler rooms) due to fire risk
in a commercial high rise its rare to have opening windows because nobody wants to spend extra on hvac or liability insurance
lots of residential high rises with floor to ceiling windows can open (picrel), but only a sliver - it strikes the balance between providing fresh air and liability costs
in any case you wouldnt really want to open the windows in the event of a fire because that just provides more fuel (oxygen). modern fire proofing requirements for high rises will effectively stop most small fires and contain large ones
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>>106742207
Promise you, that MX Master 3 is worth the money. Been with me now for 4 years and have had zero issues with it. Do not get any ROG keyboards. Bad. Connectivity issues and can't even connect and use the numpad unless I want misinputs firing off randomly after it playing nice for a few days. Should really get a new keyboard. Maybe after I get a new job.
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>>106742315
NTA, if I live in a highrise I prefer everything to be electric. I know gas operated stoves and heating would be more cost effective but I rather not deal with shoddy repair work or have paranoia that there might be a random leak due to my stupidity or failure.
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>>106742207
MBP integrated keyboard becuase I'm not a poorfag and can make my work give me a real computer to Program on.
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learn a trade
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Contest, Confront, Conquer

boomers and gen x all wants their kids to be competent and yet when we got into school or workplace they want us to be obedient to their stupid policies and slogging workflow.

hell no to that

get fucking trampled or step aside.

Enter the Wild Hunt.
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>>106742207
>logitech mx keys
I have a pink mini and it's doing excellent for 3 years. I had a bunch of wired dell keyboards that I somehow broke within a year of each other before that, so better than those I guess
For a mouse I accidentally got a G305. I don't recommend it, the wheel's jammed
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I wonder why the jannies deleted >>106731986
(archive: https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106731986)
do we have an indian janny or something? is the 4chan staff being paid to avoid discussing this topic? we know some mods are close to MAGA leaders...
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>>106739858
>have to wear a tie and dress shoes for work
No thanks
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>small town in Canada
>What few tech jobs we got are just near shoring or offshoring American companies treating us like jeets
>It's like the US h1b situation but somehow 200x worse because we're a population of 34 million with 6 million added workers taking everything and then some

I'm so happy I married an Americana and moving the fuck out.
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A worker is not effective if they're always concerned about punishment from their manager
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>>106743482
Brother you're going from the frying pan to the fire
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Anyone else trying and struggling to get on with leetcode practice? My current strat is to skim through the MIT intro to algos lectures to become baseline familiar with the essential data structures, then either skim through EPI or dive straight into leetcode practice depending on how rough the leetcode goes. I tried to dive right into leetcode before and while I made a fair amount of progress I kept running into problems where the expected solution was a more esoteric (to me) data structure like a heap and I didn't see it intuitively. Wonder what other anons are doing/recommend

t. FAGMAN SWE no CS degree (bombed and did not deserve to pass the interview 4 score and 7 years ago but here we are)
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>>106743727
you got a good kek out of me for that one anon
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>>106743793
what the FUCK is a """""heap"""""
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Write me a red-black tree in 5 minutes or you're fired
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>>106743273
>pink mini
Gen Z boss?
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I want out of california. Please bros, tell me it won't be hard to get a job in seattle?
t. 3 yoe SWE
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>>106743877
Everything you hate about California is also present in Seattle, except the income tax
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I like my job but I hate my manager
I imagine this is very common
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>>106743959
I had that. Now I'm unemployed.
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>senior BA
>daily 5-minute catch-ups with manager in which I update her on my work
>today, she asks me how "Task X" is going
>we haven't discussed this for 3 weeks, the last update was a requested list I sent her that she didn't reply to and resulted in no task
>tell her I haven't touched that topic since our last conversation, but I can prioritise it now
>starts going on about how I need to have an "enquiring mind" and consider "impact analysis"
>later sends me screenshots of our conversations from 3 weeks ago as proof of a task
Maybe there was some miscommunication, but I think she clearly just forgot about it the last 3 weeks until today and now wants to blame me
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>>106743943
There's more alt asian bitches. Also I prefer the weather of washington
>except the income tax
perfect
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>>106740496
just prompt an LLM to take a look at the codebase and suggest improvements, add more tests, add performance benchmarks. If you can't propose product improvements yourself you are on borrowed time doe. The age of the ticket engineer is over, product engineers are the new chads

>>106739865
workGOD
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>>106743723
>humiliation rituals are about performance

you have much to learn. If office jobs vanished overnight no one would even notice. The office worker value add is to make MBAs feel powerfui when they humiliate them. Yet another reason why LLMs can't replace humans lol
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>>106744026
Classic manager move. Once they get like that remember you should CYA from now on through a paper trail.
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i slept like 4 hours holy shit
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>>106744900
night sleep or post standup nap big difference
having kids is awesome but sleep in the first few years is horrible
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> open to work since current job is dead end
> companies are approaching me with medior roles that pay less than junior roles did in 2022
> when you point this out they dislike you
> companies that don't pay like shite expect to own your soul

Guess hopping is dead. This field is dying at least it is in west Europe. All dev shit got shipped to eastern europe since its cheaper. Yay globohomo service economy where you only make money as lawyer or md.
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>>106743482
The only way to escape this shit is to get a job where mastery of the local language is essential. I'm Dutch but I don't even bother applying to 100% English places since the pay is low and the spot too competitive. Government also fucks me with giving tax benefits to foreign workers. I hate this shithole of a country I wish Russia was stronger so it'd sink Amsterdam into the sea.
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>Update my macOS version
>Xcode stops working until I update that too
>Have to pray the app store update method works, if not I need to manually uninstall / reinstall Xcode
This shit is a bi yearly experience
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>Read trackers for new job listings and total number of employed people in the sector and hear that the tech worker situation is improving
>Read 4chan and hear that it's fucking over
I don't know who to trust
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>>106745996
From what I see is that there are slightly more positions but compared to 5 years ago require a lot more to make a lot less.

Its now the norm to be familiar with ci/cd tooling both on prem / cloud, have affinity with back end engineering, know 2 software langs, know about machine learning or AI implementation + support, also know dashboarding, have a bunch of certs and a masters degree laying around. All that to get the salary of a junior in 2022 as a medior+ in 2025. While inflation has also been giga the past 3 years.

I don't really see this as growth.
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>>106745996
im p sure bezos himself said "If the data and the anecdotes conflict, the anecdotes are probably right"

remember that job listings are mostly fake, jobs numbers released by the gubberment are basically just propaganda (especially under the last couple US administrations)

>>106746057
also this, even if it's not full on doomer JEETS TOOK ARE JERBS requirements have massively inflated for entry level positions since coof.
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>>106746057
That's largely because the market in 2021/2022 was completely retarded. That's when girls showing up on Zoom meetings at Twitter were making $180k
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>>106746057

Yes. Full Stack/Senior engineering has become positively absurd. It's not enough to know a front end/server side/data layer language and be able to connect them all. You now need to know infrastructure, dev ops, SRE, cyber security, and also be able to conduct requirements gathering, feature planning, and serve as a minor team lead/manager. At this point I talk to anyone else whatsoever about their job and it sounds like the kids menu compared to my schizophrenic role.
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>>106745996
job postings are 100% fake. ive seen it personally.

market is still in disaster mode for a lot of people. every moron is getting a cs degree and graduating and wondering where their 6 figure job is. literally almost 100k grads a year when job growth was supposed to be 400k for the entire decade. not to mention h1b fraud. immigrants have about 40% of all domestic software engineering jobs.
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>>106745996
For most of the last decade tech companies have followed a biglaw model. The biggest companies hire way more juniors than they need at an insane premium, turn them from college kids that don't know shit into decent employees, and then cut most of them and keep the high achievers. This means they get first dibs on people who will actually pay off as software engineers, and they release a bunch of people with 1-3 years of experience at a huge company back into the market.

AI isn't capable enough to replace these people, but these 0-3 year experience employee types aren't actually worth the investment, so companies are underhiring for now on the bet that AI's actually worth something probably 3-5 years from now. It's a massive bet, tech is moving first but entry level positions in other fields will probably start experiencing a similar freeze/reduction soon
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Anyone getting sick and tired of management now?
>Sends me a bullshit task and see if I can whip up a proof of concept when it's going to be insanely tedious and our tool doesn't allow for easy backups. We're probably not even going to go with it.
>Keep telling my boss this and again just repeat I don't want to create a POC if we're just going to not go ahead with the fucking project.
>Tells me to do it anyways
>Boss and VP keeps telling me to build a house with a fucking leafblower and I'm starting to get really pissed off from it.
>Requests are "vague" and while I can build on it, I'd rather not build Version A version B version C and would rather get them to fucking make a fucking decision from the get go.
Maybe I am a bitch or something but anytime I get these asks I'm starting to get pissed off.
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>>106746091
>You now need to know infrastructure, dev ops, SRE, cyber security
People sure as shit didn't know any of this in my last job. We could barely get them to not add RCE and SXSS vectors.
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>>106746229
you really only have two options anon
>suck up to your retarded boss and when he says jump you ask how high
>document every single request + your thoughts on it and run your boss through ticket hell
he will hate you for doing the 2nd option so you might miss out on future opportunities as someone "difficult" to work with but at least it will cut down on pointless bullshit now
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Just give the devs all the admin passwords and fire all of IT. There, industry fixed OVERNIGHT.
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>>106746349
i wouldnt trust my devs to take care of a fucking rock, much less a system password
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People are blaming AI but I'm yet to find a real first or second hand story of someone getting fired specifically to be replaced by ChatGPT. Loads of people being forced to use it, but not outright replacement.

I think the current job market really is just the result of over-hiring and "rockstar" nonsense during coof. "Tech" printed money for companies in a weird time where everyone was cooped up at home and all local industry/commerce was basically turned off by force. Now that HR rats don't need telecon shit anymore and truck drivers are back in jobs because "le supply chain disrupsion" is over tech hiring has gone back to more normal levels (but still with insane psycho humiliation ritual shit-testing because it's all run by retarded boomers who got in during the nortel days and think they're hot shit for dodging a layoff once)
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>>106746328
I'm just really trying to change my mindset instead. It's just frustrating every time I talk to them it always feels like "No, the system won't allow us to do it." It's even worse when I present them a deliverable and they go "Oh nice, you can jump." "How about you show me a backflip?" and I'm just like the fuck you didn't tell me that I needed to backflip
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>>106745863
you are holding it wrong, you are supposed to entertain them until the very end where the mutual fit is clear if you can agree on the compensation https://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/

just lie bro if you need to. When it is clear you are above the cut you can command a bigger salary, but you need to increase your chances to get to that discussion.Obv you need to be able to gauge if you are dealing with pennypinching jeets or a serious company lowballing you

>eastern europe

it is worse here than a couple of years ago too, but I do feel a bit of schadenfreude. The mere idea that some countries are cheaper is insulting af. It is discrimination plain and simple, call it colonization by capital if you will
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>>106746229
feed their requests directly to the LLMs and continue jerking off
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>>106746494
Company LLM is using OpenAI on outdated data. It also gives me garbage whenever I rely it information based on our systems. It'll hallucinate shit all the time.
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>>106746509
why do you care? If bauss does not like it, take it up with openAI lol. It is easier than ever to generate slop

>>106746374
perhaps not outright fired but companies do freeze hiring (while opening a new office in Bengaluru or Hyderebad lol)
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>>106742028
My company suddenly as azure arc installed on all our vms. Coworker didnt install it doesnt know where it came from. Theres been a huge urgency to update everything and resolve security vulnerabilities. Boss need powerBI setup was scared to have it on a vm I had access to. I get the feeling they are gonna move everything to azure stack, fire me and just hire some people that do that shit. please confirm my fears and troll the shit out of me

>>106742063
>Just give them the admin password so they can log into the laptop.
because you niche knowledge retards have no idea what you are doing outside your own bubble.
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>>106743727
You have no idea how much of a jump it is to go from Canada to the states. It's similar to Malaysia and Singapore.
Canada is now described as a wealthy 3rd world instead of a poor 1st world
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>imagine relocating for a remote job

kek, these employers are hilarious
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>>106746591
It's what happens when you invite the third world over to stay
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>Put my 2 weeks in
>They want me to work them instead of letting me go like other companies do
>Ok whatever work them
>Last day today
>Not even 10 minutes after I sit down a sysadmin and security guard walk up to my desk, take the computer and phone and tell me to follow the security guard outside
I mean whatever cause I still got paid for today but that was a bit unnecessary me thinks
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>>106741900
Do some basic research. It sounds like the dumbass kid of one of the bosses was given a nepo job. If he turns out to be just some random douche, bring that shit up with your boss because there's no way some retard with no clue what he's doing should be making more as a new hire than you are, and you'd be a cuck to let that keep happening.
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What's wrong with Canada?
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>>106746705
it's about humiliation

try to keep, friendo
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>>106746819
what you mean? be more specific, you knuckle-dragger motherfucker
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>>106741900
>>find out he is getting paid more than i do despite the same hours but me also being on call and here for 5 years
There's your problem. Find a new job if you want to get paid more. Business will always screw you on wage growth.
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>>106745996
All official job numbers are fake. It's been well known for decades that unemployment is far higher than the official numbers claim because the official numbers pretend everyone that isn't currently employed and has been unemployed for more than a few weeks is retired. Claims that open jobs have exploded in number mean dick when the job listings are fake or only being given to staffing firms and outsourcing firms, and mean double dick when the openings, earmarked for those firms, came as a result of laying off actual citizen workers.
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>>106746819
A lot.
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>>106746705
I think they do it to minimice in-company sensitive information leaking/trading. but I completely agree it's not how they should handle it, IF they cared the minimum about their workers
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>>106742315
There are commercial skyscrapers with balconies and door-windows, you know. Hate tall buildings, especially after nearly falling out of one as a kid.

>>106742336
It is prohibited to have natural gas in there. Gas for cooking is just plain better, faster, tastier, everything. It's not about cost. There are tons of safeguards against leaks, including stoves with gas relays and gas sensors.

>>106742903
>phone nigger teaching men how to be better goy slaves for mr shekelstein
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>>106747204
Look man, I'm an engineer and have seen sensor failure over the mildest things. Also, I'm not worried about the engineering around it. I'm worried about those that install it the most.
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>>106747290
Look man, i build electronic things and ive seen shitcode and shit schematics people put in there. But 99% of the time it simply wont fail. If you are worried about them failing just install an extra one. You are much more likely to crash your car or sleep forever during a fire because of faulty electrics.
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>You're one of the "lucky ones" who didn't get laid off with a meager severance
>Now you get six months of "constructive dismissal" under your new Indian boss, who simultaneously excludes you while claiming you aren't producing enough output, and if you don't resign out of frustration, there's the inevitable PIP and "for cause" termination making getting unemployment a hassle
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these fucking companies man
If you have:
>a masters degree
>6 years of experience
would you accept a HYBRID job in fucking ontario canada for $100k?
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>>106746955
If they think that you're gonna sabotage the company just because you're on the way out, they should probably do it immediately. Doing it after two weeks is just theatre.
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>>106747564
>SeNiOr LeVeL iS eNtRy LeVeL
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>got in on a free trade show
>it has a dress code
will i become die (by force) if i just go wearing work(cargo) pants and boots
apparently for military members it's "dress of the day" which for 90% of people is literally camo, so

>>106742903
wild hunting for creatures with whomst to have sex

>>106747564
depends on where in ontario. if it's LE T DOT then no, 100k doesnt go very far and even if it did lol living in that shithole. but if it's in one of the smalller towns then sure. ottawa is a coin flip since it's boring and expensive but also not as much of a shithole as tranah.

>>106746705
100% humiliation ritual, some hr rat's pussy fucking gushed making that happen
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>>106739858
Do you need to be like full fluent in japanese to do this? Is the job likely going to be the same wage slaving that japan is known for with a low af pay, or would it be probably be better somehow?
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>>106747564
Possibly if I lived in Ontario, Canada. Not that I know how much you can expect to earn in Canada with a master's degree. Otherwise, no.
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>>106747869
>Not that I know how much you can expect to earn in Canada with a master's degree.
not very much and a master's in CS is a joke anywhere in the world

if anything it's an active detriment since it implies you spent your time overpaying to basically just do leetcode nonsense, except in LISP or MATLAB or some shit instead of a language that's been used this decade
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>>106747883
Canada also charges for higher education like the US?
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>took a week out
>idea was to travel to nearby touristic cities
>barely did anything beyond sitting in front of my computer and going out to ride my bycicle almost daily
>still have a long list of personal projects I want to finish (though I did manage to solve a few details
>still thinking of leaving my job
>still ruminating about my ex and my narcissistic mom
fucking hell, I seriously need to stop pressuring myself and being a cheap ass. this fucking anxiety will end up killing me...
how do you fags manage to relax and keep your mind clear?
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>>106747890
yes but it's cheap as fuck so it's not as terrible an investment
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Another day of doing fuck all
This sucks
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>>106747890
Yes but way cheaper
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Does anyone have any advice for having another team that's difficult to work with? I'm genuinely surprised why I can't find any results on google...
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>>106748635
define difficult
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>>106747564
Haha, as a fellow ontarian. Yeah this place fucking sucks. It's filled with retarded boomers and grifters. I've worked for a shit ton of the big names here and you'll get stuck with eternal politics and your role will be so many fucking hats and everyone will try to scapegoat you for everything. Nothing is structured, or organized and all the higher ups want to just mimic american tech companies without knowing how they work.

America may have worse politics but they'll definitely be well better organized imo.
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Internship = we were a team of 2 dev and he never bothered to show me anything

First job = a consulting position had me do the front end backend for a client. Did that with no help. Got fired because of my performance. Managers estimated 400 hours and told me they expected me to do it in 100. They didn't even know what git was. They had sql apis. How the fuck do you estimate that

Job I had this year = got hired as a python dev, it was not python it was a help desk position with zoho low code programming. Again a consulting position and they kept pressuring deadlines. A client was complaining they'd have to pay for 5 minutes of my time because i gave the ticket to someone else because I understood nothing of her problem. Boss told me to lie to a client and not tell her that my solution to her problem will require a 42$ per month subscription. The guy that was fired 1 month before told me that they used freelance workers and made them work for free because the company doesn't make the client pay when they make a mistake. They accept any projects without any kind of contract of what will be delivered so clients complain about everything

Holy shit I'm having a hard time
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>>106748646
>Tendency to blow things out of proportions
>Always play the blame game
>It's always a you vs them even when you're trying to support them
>I remember one time if they could test a 5 minute task for me regarding a broken function that they asked and went "jgpfdajgpo sorry anon can't help, I AM VERY BUSY RIGHT NOW IS THIS IMPORTANT? ndsanfodsana CAN WE SCHEDULE THIS NEXT WEEK???? dsioapfmdpsmafp"
>We'll have meetings with them where they'll go into semantics battles.
>One time they started dictating OUR timelines to the business and we're like the fuck?
>Almost every conversation they always act like we're accusing them and they always spin it as "it's your tools fault".

I've brought it up to my boss several times and he's definitely on the wtf as well but he's pretty much "nothing we can do". I've asked if I can be taken out on the communication for anything related to those team and he said no. I'm about ready to snap during the meetings tbqh.
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>>106748646
endure it and develop a drinking problem. also sex with creatures. eventually they will die. (the team, not the creatures. creatures are eternal and they DO shoot back)
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I will not let jeets pollutes my mind by not talking about them in the first place. By not talking about them i dont think about them. By not thinking about them they dont exist. Because they dont exist all my problems about them are imaginary.

I will use my energy for love and meaningful work instead of hate and pointless sufferings.
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>>106748733
anon as insane as this sounds it's normal office politics
its likely the other team is swamped with bullshit tasks and they are doing everything they can to be protective of random bullshit coming their way. the rest is just blame game management.
the general rule is that unless i know you personally and we have built some rapport, if you come to me with something like "bro can you test this for 5 minutes" then i will tell you to fuck off and go through official processes because 99% chance is that it wont be just 5 minutes
learn to document, push back and involve your boss if they involve their boss
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>>106748245
responsible opiate usage
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>>106748865
I don't know, I don't like you coming to ask for insights on something and make it a straight 30 minute grilling session. oh trust me bro it was 5 minutes, I just need you to click a button and that's it lmfao. idgaf if you're stressed with shit no one else on your team is anal as fuck.
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>>106748733
Contest, Confront, Conquer.
Fuck these sandbags.
Get fucking trampled and die a horrible death or stay out of the way.
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>>106748989
>I don't like you coming to ask for insights on something and make it a straight 30 minute grilling session
they do that because you let them
they dont let you waste their time with a "5 minute button press" because they know it will turn into a 30 minute testing shitshow
simple as
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>look into how to get a security clearance
>you need a sponsorship from the government or a government contractor working with classified intelligence
>but 99% of jobs that require a clearance already want you to have one
applying for jobs has turned me more into a raging anti capitalist libtard than 10000 high school / college teachers could ever have
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>>106749090
ugh so you're just saying I gotta be an ass back?
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>>106748865
>it's normal office politics
I disagree. That's just an excuse for being a weak fucker. Be professional, objective, reasonable and stoic, or get the fuck out.
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>>106749115
im saying you have to learn ways to set boundaries and expectations
no idea what you mean by 30 minute grilling session but if they made a point and you feel like its retarded/wasting your time then tell them to ticket it up and move on with the discusion. that way they will be forced to waste 30 minutes of their time, you read it in 1 minute and can easily disprove/point out that retardness in writing for all to see if they are wrong.
if you need something tested, again, ticket it up and send it their way. if you need it urgent and they tell you to fuck off then escalate priorities
this is all extremely retarded and counterproductive to getting shit done but you gotta understand thats how fucked the modern workplace is. one anon put it best in the previous thread
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the managers and people at my job have started to notice that the indian-based team sucks ass, doesn't reply to emails or pings, and are always trying to get out of work. it's only a matter of time now from the talk i've been hearing. do they honestly believe nobody will notice this shit?
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>150k
>full remote senior data engineer
>cool industry and collleagues
>lots of PTO, chill work environment

Do I have a good deal? I feel like my salary is low, but every job I see with a higher salary looks like bad work life balance etc
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>>106746071
Honestly things were pretty awful 6-8 years ago too, it's just that nothing was done then so now we're hitting the peak of everyone realizing what the fuck is going on. There was a small amount of time where warehouse jobs were paying a little more than usual under Trump I but I still distinctly already remember getting out of college as an (admittedly) average-at-best candidate and there was just nothing. A lot of the same problems back then are happening now, just more common.
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I got an interview tomorrow for a management position that would mean a noticeable salary rise. I currently work as developer.
I'm going to reject it. I just don't care. I don't want to work as tard wrangler, I don't want to do endless meetings. I'm going to stay her and keep slacking off.
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>>106749359
never lead a team/take huge project ownership that requires uptime responsibility and it honestly doesnt get better than that
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>>106748876
I'm not gonna do drugs. I'd probably get hooked to them...
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>>106749409
Based but unfortunately after a certain age people expect you to be in leadership positions for whatever reason. You also have the risk of getting stuck/too comfortable
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>>106749601
What age is that
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>>106749767
21
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>>106740913
>What's the point of having windows you can't open?
>t. professional dark mode enjoyer
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>>106741491
No one cares, disgusting faggot
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>>106749767
40
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>>106749767
85
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>>106749767
175
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>>106749767
8
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>>106744074
>alt asian bitches
You must be in a different part of Seattle. All I see are ones that have been off the boat from anywhere from a few months to a few years
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why the fuck are they forcing everyone to work in the office again?
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>>106748407
This only sucks if you're forced to walk into office and sit there twiddling your fingers until lunch and snoop out of the building an hour or two afterwards
...I did that today, spending time playing one round of gacha and scrolling through 4 on my phone
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>>106746705
>do any of that
What are they going to do, fire you? You already quit.
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Am I allowed to lurk here if I'm in car sales and studying certs part time to hopefully get into IT?
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24 hours since my full loop with FAGMAN and my recruiter hasn't gotten back to me. Am I in the clear?
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>>106744074
Visited back in May and I didn't see a single alt asian bitch. Where they at?

What am I even saying? I'm not even their target demographic. I practically Asian repellent.
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>8 years of experience
>can't even get a fucking interview
its actually over
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>>106751241
1 million job revisions last year downwards anon. It's going to be another 3 years of bullshit more so than the last 6 have been for the industry.
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>>106751087
>>>/g/utwg
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I mean at this point, would you go out of tech? Or at least spin into something like operations or business side of things?



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