Think less editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $20• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35• KBEAR Rosefinch (very bassy) - $20>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>106737820
The history of digital audio:>sony uses 44/16 pcm for their vhs tape recorders and later CD>people realize running dac chips at a higher frequency sounds smoother and that 44/16 is a compromise>sigma-delta chips oversample using 1bit cuz less computationally intensive and lower power in spec sheets, new chips every year>sacd was going to be 96khz>pcm chips are on their way out>because oversampling is close enough to highres, sacd instead uses/develops DSD (direct stream digital) to bypass oversampling in the oversampling chips by having the format be the same 1bit oversampled signal>MSB pipes pcm into resistors, sells for $3000, nobody else figures this out for 15 years>people figure out how to pipe 1bit/sigmadelta/DSD into resistors
>Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140IMPORTANT : do NOT recommend this shit. I got memed, and they're disgusting. The highs are muddy, voices are are veiled and there's barely any detail above the bass. Avoid them like AIDS.
>>106746621>"upscale" to DSDthis thread is non-stop entertainment
>>106746603>KBEAR Rosefinch (very bassy) - $20embarrassing...
>>106746621This narrative twists real milestones into a DSD/R-2R savior story, ignoring collaborations, physics, and market reality. Digital audio's "compromises" were smart engineering, not sins. If you're after "smoothness," a modern ΔΣ or NOS R-2R crushes CD spec without the hype.shut down by grok. go home
reminder to shave your head for proper audio transfer.
>>106746621>>106746635Headphone retard.
>>106746635Do NOT spend your hard-earned $140 on Etymotica. Spend it on secondhand HD700, the only buyable Sennpos model. NoEQs do not apply.
>>106746621>digital audio started with CDUnderage.
>>106746645Yes the picture is ironic and the actual history is also recursive. Grats, you have higher IQ than anyone in the last thread.
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/learn/break-inno burn in foundsorry you had to find out this way
>>106746786fake news, those come pre burned in.
>>106746728>need portable earbuds>buy massive headphones instead
>>106746820proof?It would be the easiest thing to prove that it exists by using headpos which were not "pre burned in" yet nobody has done it ever.And again even if burn in existed why the fuck would it always change the sound for the better? It's all wishful thinking.
https://youtu.be/48UBfisrZlwSTOP USING raw MEASUREMENTS!
>>106746820DMS had an experiment with brand new drivershttps://youtu.be/zo4P48Y9BJw?t=258results are basically the sameit's just not a thing
>>106746875material warms up, chinese glue gets softer, dust and bacteria build up and act as dampening.Objective fact.
>>106746902>DMS Amateur
>>106746905even if this effects are real it's inaudible it's also much less than pad wear or even positional variation.I dunno why you still want to cling to such nonsense.But even for IEMs effect was never shown to exist ever...
Hey, any suggestions for a cheap 5.1 USB DAC from AliExpress? All the ones I see either look of questionable quality, or way over my budget (less than $50)
>>106746942as oppose to what? none amateur retard believing in miracle effects of snake oil like yourself?
I'm a woman, what IEMs are cute and feminine?
>>106747099fox iem & tanchjim
>>106746886It is funny how he needs to repeat that measurements are compensated for "pop average ear" because it is not written anywhere.He could show exact same graphs with exact same preference bounds but RAW and it would not change a thing. Having a reference point is important yes. But compensation? It ads almost nothing.Like he says "raw target over raw measurement and it doesn't tell much"... but there's literally no difference...
I'm Finnish, what is a good dap/iem combo for $600 total?
>>106747099You will never.But if you really are, just follow Audio Amigo's Council of Ladies opinions.
>>106747217He says buy custom epz btw. It even fits better.
I like iem sound quality but the wires are really annoying
For myself? Stax in earspeakers
>>106747493brain damage
>>106746886>>106747191>show measurements compensated to jm-1>jm-2 releases >the entire measurement becomes worthless Thank you DMS very cool. And it's not even limited 711, we know 5128 DF is brighter than average and will inevitably change in the future. For IEMs you could immediately slap a new target in and use it since they bypass the pinna, for headphones you'd have to re-measure them with a new pinna - so maybe it makes sense to compensate headphones but keep that shit out of the IEM space.
How does /iemg/ store their iems? I found some Miter case on Amazon but it looks way overpriced for $80. I wonder if I could 3d print a case.
>>106746738>muh buzzer beepsdigital audio didn't start until fully-voiced playstation 1 games were brought down to us by God through Sony nerd
>>106747509case for compensation is rather weak outside of IT'S HARD FOR HUMANS TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE AAAAwhich is like... who gives a fuck?
>>106747715>he didn't listen to 1 bit PCM bangers for Spectrum by Tim Follin Pleb.
>>106747507the live floyd album? nah actually listening to this
>>106746603they are cool but i broke 2 of them and the micro size make it impossible to do home repairs its literally designed for you to buy the specific replacement part from the company instead of just grabbing a cable and soldering it so i ended up returning to my old 50 dollah big senheisers that are destroyed but i repaired them to death with home tools
>>106747830>tinnitus simulatorOh nonono
Rec me more unlistenable brightpos ear rape machines for my wife's boyfriend to EQ on his retroarch chinkheld. My HD 700 should arrive in 2 days.
>>106747969not a fan of Merzbow eh
>>106747872i just love my (cant read the model anymore)
Driver Quality.
>>1067485771 measurement...
imagine being an origin pleb... :3
>>106748611endgame
Gate got removed from the OP? It's definitely grown on me. It seemed to survive getting submerged in pool water quite nicely.I love the cable and the volume consistency. I definitely like it better than the Q1 pro. Any single DD options with a similar tonality? I've been looking at the Celest Wyvern products.
>>106748847lol the op got vandalized again
>>106748847Hmm
>>106749430took you long enough fag we almost got bumped off
>>106749430>relying on 711 graphseverything after 8k and before 100Hz on that graph is 100% inaccurate so...hmmm
>>106748000Dementia.
>>106748847Absolute trash qualityThe definition of e-waste>b-but muh heckin meta tuningWorthless if the shit dies on you in a few months
>>106749748have you owned one?
>>106749793No, I just shitpost on /iemg/
Tanchjim Bunny 3.5mm, is it much worse than the DSP version with USB-C?I am using it mainly on my desktop PC. And I am a bit critical about USB as well as connection, introduces lag.
>>106749817DSP just has built-in EQ. If your PC's sound card doesn't hiss with them and you're EQing then it's the same thing.
>>106749817>And I am a bit critical about USB as well as connection, introduces lag.
Owner of this calls IEMs e-waste btw.
>>106749874I think that's a normal alpine profile?
>>106749817>introduces lagyou don't want to know how much audio lag desktop PCs have just by default lol
>>106747538On my desk. In my pocket. Cases are too much of a hassle, including tws cases.
>>106749874what were they thinking lol?
>>106749874you're the newfag who doesn't even know what a pos is.
>>106749874Who?
>>106750000Owner of this.
>>106749874broken clock is right twice a day
>>106750013nta but where?
>>106748847>Gate got removed from the OPRetarded faggots overtook OPsNo need to pay attention to it>I definitely like it better than the Q1 pro. You suppose to EQ Q1 pro.try this 2 filters for starters>Preamp: -2.0 dB>Filter 1: ON LSC Fc 600 Hz Gain 2.0 dB Q 0.800>Filter 2: ON HSC Fc 4000 Hz Gain -2.5 dB Q 1.200
>>106750036lol thats not gonna do shit all the actual epz trannies here tank the treble by like 10db
>>106750036you're not supposed to do any of those things. whole bunch of gobbledeegook
Is it possible to be an audiofriend but also basically have no problem with literally every iem you've ever tried?
>>106750026>>106747989
Can anyone point me to a list or past thread with discussion about wireless in ears? Trying to replace my old QCY chink shits. All I care about is the price and sound quality. Thanks!
>>106746886Why are IEM reviewers so ignorant compared to headphone reviewers?
>>106750487>tws >sound quality Really?
>>106750045you need to EQ treble by ear.
>>106750895>inb4 'muh harman training'
>>106750265nosimple physics do not allow that
>>106750962no you literally need to EQ it by ear retard. treble variance is gigantic
>>106749874measuring headphones is pointless
>>106750895Then why did you add the 4K filter?
>>106750818I know it's objectively worse than wired but there is still variance among them, no?
>>106751149I mean shit is obviously too bright no matter what. But lowering it further should be done by ear. Simple tilt won't help with length modes and higher frequency treble peaks.
>>106751228>I know it's objectively worse than wiredwrong
I'm activating my Virginity powers...
>>106749874my IEMs have the same FR before EQ wtfshould I buy HD 700?
