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>News & RumorsRTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.>OmissionsRTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. 1.4V or 1.45V CPU VR voltage limit recommended.>Product NoticePNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplieshttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+SuppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviewshttps://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/
EZ (new) gpu buying guide :9060xt 8gb > 5050/5060/5060ti 8gb5060 ti 16 > 9060xt 16gb5070 > 9070 5070ti > 9070xt5080, 5090 > lolAs you can clearly see by the official list, radeon is only for poor people and third worlders.
>>1067782665080 oc and 5070ti are worse than reference 7900xtx
>>106778348
>>106778266For me in local prices 300€ budget : 5060400€ budget: raise the budget to buy 5070500€ budget: raise the budget to buy 5070600€ budget: buy 50701k€ budget : buy 5070 tiNot in a hurry budget : wait for supers q1 2026
>>106778365
>>106778348>Review Posted:Jan 30th, 2025TPU doesn't even test that game anymore.Capcom officially stated they need to unfuck the engine for MHWilds.Thanks for proving your need to cite outdated & unoptimized engines.
>parents need a new pc that needs to last them at least 5-6 years>try to make it a budget>end up at 1500usdGoing anything but 9600x and rtx5060 feels like a ripoff.
>>106778419Do your parent play video games? Why not just go grab a second hand prebuilt with a 12100 or something?
>>106778371Keep posting outdated benchmarks that TPU doesn't bother to test these days.Posting Spider-Man 2 benchmarked in April 2025 or later, since this game is made by the same studio.
Intel ARC™ B770 fucking WHEN?
>>106778455soon™
>>106778426Oops, forgot to remove the first psu.I'll split it with them. The nephew/niece will do gaming on it if they spend longer times there.
>>106778455Just wait for C770
>>106778461Damn it Intel what the fuck does soon™ even mean??Intel 18A soon™!Intel 14A soon™!Intel B770 soon™!Whatever-the-fuck-lake soon™!Intel will be good again soon™!CPU that's not a hot pile of shit with performance regressions (and AVX512, again) soon™!I'm beginning to think they don't know what that word means nor do they know wtf they're doing.
>>106778513Fuck that I'm waiting for the Intel ARC Druid D990K Ultra Plus 512Gb!
>>106778136why do motherboards have so many sata ports when most majority of people only use 1 or 2 HDD/ ssd sata ?1 nvme m.2 1 hdd is more than enough
>>106778645People like to carry over their storage drives to a new build.
>>106778419>cooler costs nearly a third of the cpu>hdd is nearly double the price of the ssd>extra fansdo you even know what the word budget means?
Is there a good case that could fit a 420 radiator comfortably up top?Was thinking of something quite tall like meshify 2 xl or that phanteks server one.
>>106778645Meanwhile i've got 8 HDDs in my desktop and am having to look at buying a PCIe SATA card for my next build because the VAST majority of current consumer boards have 4-6 SATA ports at most, and many of them disable SATA ports if you install too many M.2 drives.
>>106778812why disable?to boost performance?
>>106778645because the chipset can do it. like nobody needs a dozen usb ports but it can do it.
>>106778803I got it because I wanted a horizontal build, so for me it's technically on the side, but be quiet light base 900(d/fx) fits a 420 radiator on top snd bottom, but not on the side (in reference to a vertical position).
>>106778817Because they use an onboard SATA chip that connects to the same PCIe lanes used by one of the M.2 slots, so if you use that M.2 slot, it disables the corresponding SATA lanes (and vice versa)
Yeah, that's right. A 1200W Platinum PSU. Bet you poorfags will never even catch a glimpse of such a beast for the rest of your pathetic virgin lives.
>>106778955>he doesn't have a titanium rated PSUNGMI
>>106778955Which dual GPU setup are you using where that PSU is good enough?It's got 6 total connectors for the CPU & GPU(s), so 4~5 left for your GPUs.
>>106778968>he doesn't have a ruby rated PSUtake a gander at this pleb
>>106779004Ruby rating only exists for servers, and only for 230V service.Titanium is the highest consumer PC rating.
Platinum is a reasonable stopping point unless you want the very best consumer-grade PSU.Platinum & Titanium units are usually meant for PCs continuously operating at high power loads.
anyone has experience with superflower's universal 9pin connector?
>efficiency ratingslmao. imagine being poor enough you have to care about energy efficiency
for me, its about the operating temps and noise levels
>>106778955i am seething with such an insane amount of jealously right now...
>>106778955I've had this for a few years now
>>106778136>High-end: SN850X>Premium: SN8100SSDfag here with a WARNING.The SN8100 was WD's last big in-house project before the SANDISK<>WD merger.While WD_Black products were historically high-end, SANDISK is best known for being a Jew-tier scumlord responsible for some of the shittiest memory products known to mankind.Even though they had nothing to do with this product pre-merger, SANDISK is, as of this week, slapping 'POWERED BY SANDISK' on all SN8100 drives going forward.It is ABSOLUTELY in SANDISK character to make some Jew-tier changes under the hood unannounced that make these products a NO-BUY.The Crucial T710 just hit the market and is now my go-to SSD recommendation if in need of PCIE Gen 5, with the Crucial T500 my recommendation if in need of PCIE Gen 4.
>>106778419>sata SSD>hard drivenigga what the fuck are you doing
>>106779193ill wait for someone to review it before making any kind of judgement
Is AMD gonna make a 9070xtx?
>>106779211They could be binning chips that can consistently boost over 3.1 or 3.2GHz.
>>106779193I believe you, thank you for the warning.
>>106778955>only 1200wngmi, little fish
>>106779047Not much to say, they workEach universal connector has 3x 12v pins, so they should be good for 300w each 5v and 3.3v is handled by a single pin each, but that's not unusual
>>106779193>Crucial T710 just hit the market and is now my go-to SSD recommendationIt's just slightly better than the older T705 with some power efficiency improvements.T710 will probably shit the bed in Linux just like the T705.
>>1067793381300w is what's in my nas
>>106779204>ill wait for someone to reviewI think the concern here is that component swaps post-reviews mean you aren't getting the exact product someone reviewed anyway.Western Digital has done this with some of their shit-tier products.But SanDisk is known to do this with all of their products as market conditions change.>the SN8100 under Western Digital>the SN8100 under SanDisk in 2026>the SN8100 under SanDisk on some random Thursday when the wrong parts came in but were used anyway>the SN8100 under SanDisk in 2028These can be four very different SSDs.Reviews are almost never updated when these changes are almost never announced.SanDisk = product lottery and almost always the product gets worse.
>>106779366any company could do this
love this lil mofucka
>>106779378>any companySamsung wouldn't do that.
>>106779366Crucial is not above the component swapping shenanigans. Intel / Solidigm is the only company that has publicly stated they change product SKUs when they make component changes to their SSDs.
>>106778419>assrock and amd 9000OH NONONONO
>>106779393Samsung upgraded the controller on the 970 Evo to the one used on the 980 Pro without notice because they ran out of the older controller (production shortages).Some idiots made this out to be an anti-consumer practice.
>>106778365wowzers nvidia definitely doesnt meddle around with game optimisations which favor geforce gpus post cod stats faggot
>>106779496We don't deserve them.
>>106779531>post cod stats faggot>'You need to post Radeon-optimized benchmarks!'>'Post game benchmark where PS5 makes up +80% of its sales!'
>>106778419take a deep breath and replace that motherboard with a cheaper gigabyte d3ch or something whatever they are called idk and replace that cpu with a CPU WHICH HAS A BUILT IN GPU AKA APU 8600g or whichever is cheaper they wont be gaming on that thing and they dont need a thermalright dual tower either just switch to a cheap single tower thermalright cooler at the same time replace that PSU with a cheap thermalright psu too find the cheapest shitty case available
>>106779531there’s games sponsored by NVIDIA that still favours AMD so this is just blatant cope
>>106779547Performance characteristics weren't the same, but I don't think they made the change to screw over end users.
>>106779531AMD simply loses more than it wins and by bigger margins, this makes the 5070ti faster overall
>>106779531>Radeon only wins in unoptimized slop built around the ps5 exclusively lol.
>>106779563>sponsored by NVIDIAPeople are overestimating this marketing label.It basically means the game has DLSS, (M)FG, and Reflex available at launch. That's all.Look at BL4 for example.
>>106779553same book by the different cover jpeg you insufferable empathy lacking moron you only care about nvidia just because its "popular" to normiesintel gpus and amd gpus are the future
I can't decide if I want to go for the velka 7 or the NCASE/FormD t1. It's 6.2L vs 9.95L, which is a significant size difference.However, the t1 has room for a 240mm radiator (even two 240mm radiators) whereas with the velka I'd have to use a small air cooler. Although, is water cooling even a good idea?The t1 can also fit full size graphics cards. But I am going with a 9070xt, which does have a 2 slot variant so I don't know how relevant that is. Could impact potential upgrades in the future.Portability is very important to me as I'd like to use this as both my main desktop and as a travel PC.
Here is the performance in a FPS that doesn't need to be optimized for a PS5 or the Series S.The 9070 XT & 5070 benchmarks were done before Valve released a major performance update.
>>106779594>intel gpus and amd gpusAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>106779589yes, the idea that NVIDIA is forcing developers to make AMD perform worse has always been a baseless conspiratorial cope
>>106779575oh shit i have to pay 150 usd more just to get around 4% to 7% performance increase
>>106779602see you in 5 years , thus majority of those stats come from laptop fags which only has rtx/gtx gpus
>>106779623>4% to 7% performance increase
>>106779573I would have announced it just to avoid this, but I can understand why they wouldn't feel the need with real world performance being, probably, indistinguishable.
>>106779594>same book by the different cover jpegI can post updated benchmarks of overall performance. You can't.
>>106779645>unironically he shows the path tracing nonsense in order to look like the winner
>>106779668
>>106779668Says the retard who habitually posts 1~2+ year old benchmarks.
>>1067796629070xt wasnt made to overperform the 5070ti it was made to get close to it but with a cheaper price
>>106779679I never said that was the case; AMD knows their place in the market.AMD plays along with NVIDIA; they're not serious about making better cards.
>>106779595I'd make an air-cooled PC with the Velka if it's for traveling.I wouldn't carry around a liquid-cooled PC.
>>106779623except the 9070XT is basically universally going for the same price
>>106779679then why is it going for a similar price?
>>106779602slowly but surely
>>106779735Blatant lie, you can easily get a mid/high-end 9070 XT for the cost of an entry-level 5070 Ti.
>>106779762woooooooooow 1 1/2 uber eats orders between two products that can and cannot do PT. Which will I pick?
Is there a point in buying a high end variant of a graphics card?
>>106779784At this point, no.Even the entry cards are basically universally good.
>>106779780PT is still in the tech demo stage.It's going to take at least 2 more GPU generations and a PS6 Pro to take PT somewhat seriously.
will the 9070xt run my autism plane simulator in vr?
>>106779762you too can pay 100 dollars more for less performance
>>106779795I played through all of cp2077 with it enabled. idc if you don't lile nvidia's software suite, it was fantastic.
>>106779760are people still buying b580 as a budget option? still not seeing them at msrp or are people buying up 5060/9060 instead?
>>106779795>PT is still in the tech demo stage.Cope and seethe, By the time the rtx 6000 series is released pt will be the gold standard
>>106779784The most tangible difference is the cooling & operating noise.You can reduce the heat & noise by undervolting the GPU.Higher-end cards have more overclocking headroom, but the performance difference between an OC'd base MSRP card to an OC'd high-end one isn't that big.
>>106779803depends on the headset.if you spent $2000+ for 4k x 4k per eye, you probably should get a 5090 you poorfag.
https://x.com/InstLatX64/status/1973475687882432863INTEL WON
>>106779805Literally no other tech reviewer managed to replicate this benchmark.HWUB Steve even had to clarify the content of this video.
>>106779811you can find them at MSRP in the US
>>106779827Bigscreen Beyond 2e so 2560 x 2560 per eye
>>106779832HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>106779832AYYMDEAD UNBOXED LIES EXPOSED FOR ALL TO SEE
>>106778955I use this.
im happy with my 550w psu :)
>>106779847I though the game was microsoft flight simulator, the game you are playing might have the same requirements or not but a 9070 XT should work.I think this video mentions that FSR 4 is not supported (I didn't actually watch it, just skimming the comments, I don't own VR btw, I just watch reviews for headsets), but I don't know if that means DLSS is supported in DCS (and an update by now might have added FSR 4).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IbSHatEdJMThere is a application called optiscalar that forces FSR 4 on for unsupported games, but you need some autism to care about that.If you went with Nvidia, it's pretty good. The bigscreen beyond only goes to 75hz without compression, I could argue that the 5070 12gb + DLSS is enough for your games (but you probably should not take that because VR headsets don't have Gsync/Freesync, which means dropping a frame means that it will make a jarring stutter, but nothing stops you from lowering the settings to high or medium, or lowering the resolution, since the 5070 TI / 9070 is only around 20% faster than the 5070, the window for avoiding stutter isn't as massive, compared to the difference graphics settings make)
>>106779000RTX 3080 & RTX 3090 for LLM inferencing
>>106780013Why do they always use nigger games for the benchmark?>spider man>"Look how well it renders the sweat on this nigger's skin! Look, look! You can even see the bulge in his pants with this card!"Yeah let me spend $5,000.00 on a pc to play spiderman. That's what I'm looking for.
>>106780071>>106780013Didn't meant to quote.I'm a racist, not an animal.
>>106780071TPU tests out different game engines (UE5, Source, Unity, proprietary AA/AAA engines, etc.)Spider-Man 2 happens to be the latest game using Insomniac's engine.
>>106778419>5600 MHz for the RAM>90xx >SATA instead of NVMEWhat the fuck is wrong with youAlso ASR is an AMD killer
can't make a new build from scratch yet so I only got a 50 buck new case. Better than expected for the price
>2025 almost over>wanted to be done with building a pc in march>did nothing but procrastinate since then how do I fix me?
>>106780226At least component prices have mostly dropped since March.
>>106779811Literally just got the asrock one for $260 last week
>>106778419mac mini for your parents and steam decks for the kids.Yes, this would require you to do some eternal IT support, but it's probably for the best.
What are the best motherboards for a High End PC right now, I’m asking because my motherboard die
>>106779747IDK where you live, but it's pretty easy to find RX 9070 XT partner cards for between $650 and $700 in the US. The most expensive partner card that I can find reliably in stock is the sapphire nitro+, which retails for $750. In comparison the cheapest 5070 ti partner card I can find reliably in stock is $750, and if you want to go with a higher end, better built card equivalent to the sapphire (e.g., the Asus TUF gaming or the gigabyte eagle series), you're looking at between $850 and $1000.Whether or not that $100-150 difference matters to you and your build will depend on what you want to use it for. If you're someone that absolutely needs DLSS or really values ultra-high-res path tracing, then that $100-150 price difference won't matter to you. If you don't need those things and just want good 1440p-4k performance without really caring about RT, then the 9070 XT is reliably cheaper.
>>106780318ASUS Strix-E or Crosshair/MaximusGigabyte Aorus Master or betterMSI Carbon or betterASRock AM5 is not recommended, but Nova & Taichi are their higher-end boards.All of these boards don't provide better gaming or productivity performance compared to most entry-level & mid-range boards.Most PC users don't even need an Aorus Elite, Tomahawk, or a TUF motherboard.
>>106780363>If you don't need those things and just want good 1440p-4k performance without really caring about RThmm, when have I heard this before...
>>106780406I had a Gigabyte X870e Altus Elite Wifi7
>>106780487>Aorus
>>106780318Depends on your CPU and the desired features. I don't think there's one "best" brand. I would advise against an ASRock Mobo if you've got a 9000 series AMD CPU though.
>>106780318(me)>>106780487(me)>>106780638I have a 7800X3D
>>106780427The 5700XT was a pretty solid card. It can still play a decent amount of games in 1440p to this day 6 years later. Nvidia was definitely more competitive against AMD with the 30 series though. My main "work" PC has a 12 gb 3080 in it, and that's a beast of a GPU. I wasn't even considering AMD at the time. In terms of the 50 series nvidia vs the 90 series AMD, I think it's more of a tossup. I just built two of basically the exact same computer (9600x, same 850 chipset Mobo, same 2 TB nvme drive, same cooler), except for the GPU. One was for me, and one was for my brother in law (he wanted one after playing mine at my house). Mine has the 16 gb 9060xt with bazzite as the OS, his has that 16 gb 5060 to with windows as the OS. Unless you're playing an RT always on game, they basically perform identically.
>>106780487Someone said their $600 ASUS Crosshair board died recently.Sometimes you draw the short end of the stick, no matter how much you paid for the board.You see people bitching about AM5 Tomahawk boards too.
>>106780318>>106780675The one trick the mainboard jews don't want you to know about — Asus rog strixb650e-e wifi. 12 usb ports, 3 pcie ports, 4 m2 ports of which 3 are directly to the cpu.The quick rundown:Everything runs on the same chipset.X870E is X670E + USB4X870 is B650E + USB4B850 is equal to either B650E or B650, depending on whether the primary PCIe x16 slot is Gen 5 (equal to B650E) or Gen 4 (B650).B840 is shit.
I got a Dell G16 7620 Gaming Laptop and i'm looking to get an upgrade in storage, 2TB minimum. Here's my current specsGPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPUProcessor: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700HDisk Drive: NVMe PC801 NVMe SK Hynix 1TBWhere should I go to find compatible SSDs for my laptop? Is the information I gave all I need to find a compatible drive?
>>106780957I prefer MSI if possible, can I get equivalent or very similar from them? Which board would you recommend?
>>106780318Right now it's not very good time for purchase, MSI MAX series and Aorus X3D are coming aroundDepends on how high end you want, right now you could look at Aorus Master X3D ICE and Asus x870e Gene/Extreme, later on MSI x870e Ace and Aorus Xtreme X3D could be good choices. Avoid MSI x870e Godlike, it's very overpriced and prone to failures, including whole board getting bricked.
https://www.newegg.com/patriot-memory-viper-elite-5-ultra-96gb-2-x-48gb-ddr5-6000-pc5-48000-cas-latency-cl28-desktop-memory-matte-black/p/N82E16820225353?Item=N82E16820225353https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-flare-x5-96gb-ddr5-6000-cas-latency-cl30-desktop-memory-black/p/N82E16820374682?Item=N82E16820374682Why is the patriot memory kit so much cheaper? They have different timings so is it using different chips?
i got problems with my monitor, sometimes goes black screen for a few second, and then it goes full black after minutes, i changed now my port on HDMI 1 (it was on 2 before) and now looks like it worked, but still im afraid that this could happen again. What causes this? i hope that maybe its caused by a defective driver from my video card, so now im reinstalling it, but im scared that i need to buy a new monitor since i bought this 3 months ago
>>106780987you only have 1 m.2 slot.you need a secondary PC with 3 m.2 slots and you need to run software such as Macrium Reflect (use the free trial, it only needs an email address). You can buy a $15 external M.2 drive, but if you want a future proof adapter. a usb 4 adapter such as MAIWO is around 4x faster for like $50 (similar to full speed gen 3 m.2 drive). But your laptop is only gen 3.2 so it's 1/4th the speed (same speed as a Sata SSD).If you don't care about moving all the files and you want a fresh install, just replace the SSD and install windows onto a spare usb using rufus, windows activation will be automatic as long as you use the same version.
>want to build an am5 comp>still need powerful single threaded performanceGod damnit. It's core ultra 265 time isn't it?
>>106780987>>106781133 (me)*wait, I didn't read the specs for USB, you technically have thunderbolt 4, which works with usb gen 4 accessories, so an external m.2 adapter is pretty slot.But it's also your displayport port, some people plug their laptops to a display like a desktop. So that would not work (and hubs are not great, since you typically lose VRR).
>>106781179You don't know what you need, you think you need more than you do.
>>106781042MSI never released a B650E board afaik.Their 850 boards are slightly worse than the one I mentioned. X870E and X870 are scam in my opinion. Maybe the MSI mpg b850 edge ti wifi. everything is a little bit slower compared to the Asus board I mentioned but still good on paper. You should read some reviews beforehand.
>>106781192>(and hubs are not great, since you typically lose VRR).nevermind, hubs with DP alt mode works fine with VRR, and it's surprisingly cheaper than I expected.
I got a 32" oled monitor that I keep pretty bright to take advantage of the hdrnow I see very visible blood veins on both of my eyes after using it for a dayIs that normal?
>>106781346your eyes are just dry. wash your face more. stay hydrated. get some more fish oil in your diet.
>>106781346You don't manually adjust brightness for HDRYou dont have HDR at all unless you explicitly enable it in windows and have HDR content
>>106781346All that flicker All these zoomers need to wear glasses for a reason
>>106781327>nevermind, hubs with DP alt mode works fine with VRR, and it's surprisingly cheaper than I expected.Oh, but I completely missed the point, you won't get 40Gbps speeds with a hub :/
average lcd has only few hundred dimming zonesevery pixel on oled is a dimming zoneyou're searing your eyes at a microscopic level
>>106781354So what you're saying I need to buy some gelly eye drops like I had botched lasik surgery>>106781367sure you can change hdr brightness with a sliderthis monitor has 3 levels for hdr max nits for game mode
>>106781394take your meds
>>106781485samsung explode your phone, your finger, your stove, and now your eyes
Can someone enlighten me on background multitasking and it's impact on an x3d cpu's gaming performance? How big of a hit do they take when you have a youtube video open in the background for example?
which oem should i buy the 9070 from? i want to also buy one of those bios flasher so i can flash the bios to the one of a 9070xt. never done this before but how hard can it be?
>>106781540It shouldn't matter much but it'll obviously be worse than a higher core count CPU
>>106779784Less noise, better hotspot temps, and phase change paste that doesn't dry out (PTM7950). You'd think also less coil whine, but that's a crapshoot unfortunately.
>>106780406What the difference between their crosshair and strix?
>>106781707one is for retards and the other is for absolute retards
>>106778955>rm-elmaomy bet is youll come back in 3 months calling it dogshit because one of the chink capacitors exploded
>>106779366Interesting, I've had a SanDisk SSD in my ancient non-retina MBP for like 12 years now and once even shorted it out due to the shitty Apple ac adapter cord that rots and I just twisted the wires back together and used it like that for a few years even though it would like spark and shit sometimes and anyway I did some reset procedure on the SSD after I had shorted it out and it came back to life and I didn't even lose any data lmao.Guess I won the SSD lottery with that one.
>SkatterBencher's 9950X3D UV&OC videoso if I want to minmax for lifespan, I should only stick with a negative CO either per CCD or per core if time allows, right?also if I somehow find even more time to sink into this, negative CS, too?>leaving free gains on the table until the hardcap of 1.35V by running stock clockssure, if it improves lifespanalso how tf does Scalar 10x only bump up the cap to 1.36V while supposedly shortening CPU lifespan tenfold?
>>106781179Is CPU Mark an app you intend to run on the regular? If not, maybe look at benchmarks more relevant to what you're actually tryna do.
>>106781562>which oem should i buy the 9070 from? i want to also buy one of those bios flasher so i can flash the bios to the one of a 9070xt. never done this before but how hard can it be?The one that is the cheapest. The 9070 isn't a powerful enough card that there is a big divergence in their performance characteristics regardless of who's designing the card.
>>106781179Kind of wondering the same myself. stuck on 9600x/9700x or 265k. Not clear which is the better choice, though I'm somewhat loathe to trust the heterogeneous architecture of the 265k, and Intel in general.
>>106781540if you have hw accleration enabled in your browser and its actually working then the load from youtube is offloaded from your cpu since your gpu has actual media engines. otherwise the work would be done on your cpu instead and it varies on what exactly you're working with.
>>106781857265K if you need a bunch of n-thread performance for work. 9600/X (maybe 7600/X depending on price) if it's a pure gaming rig. The real-world 1T performance is close enough to not matter either way.
>>106781857>Kind of wondering the same myself. stuck on 9600x/9700x or 265k. Not clear which is the better choice, though I'm somewhat loathe to trust the heterogeneous architecture of the 265k, and Intel in general.It comes down to application vs. application though generally the 265K (and 14700K) come out on top by a small margin. If you don't think you'll keep the system for very long or don't see yourself ever upgrading the CPU, Arrow Lake is the better "NOW" option despite being a dead socket. But if you want to plan for longevity then the 9600X/9700X being on AM5 gives you an upgrade path.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/27.html
>>106781562>i want to also buy one of those bios flasher so i can flash the bios to the one of a 9070xt.Some people reported success in only using software to flash the XT vBIOS to their 9070.Don't be careless when you're attempting this in a single BIOS card.https://www.overclock.net/threads/amdvbflash-modded.1817620/
can I return my shit if I lose the silicon lottery
not even intlel recommends ultraswhen the shilling comes from the other side you shit up the placewhy are you niggers like this?
>>106782180i support ultras near you
>>106781707Crosshair Hero can run two video cards @ Gen 5 x8 mode, Strix-E has 1x Gen 5 x16 lane.There are other differences, like dual/single Ethernet and some other stuff that probably doesn't matter to you.https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-crosshair/rog-crosshair-x870e-hero/spec/https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-x870e-e-gaming-wifi/spec/These are both way overspecced for casual users, and it's not even optimal for high-end overclocking.Apex is the best overclocking board, but mega overkill for a daily system.A decent B850 board will provide similar daily OC gains given similar component cooling.https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-crosshair/rog-crosshair-x870e-apex/
is a 9800x3d gud 'nuff for CAD and Blender work?
>>106782180I've recommended the raptor lake i5s and 265k since the price cuts.
>>106782180Intel's new ceo is a chinese agent and a retard. The ultras have vastly improved recently.
>>106781707Crosshair is the best that exists for now
>>106782167No, I lost the CPU IMC lottery.
>>106782210>is a 9800x3d gud 'nuff for CAD and Blender work?Yes-ish, it's literally and figuratively Mid. As long as such productivity apps aren't more than 50% of your normal usage it's fine.
Is the Case Flux Pro as good as they said?
>>106782229Post results.How do you know it's not the motherboard?
Autodesk, ANSYS and RFEM force me into the nvidia intel combo every time. The faggots.
>>106782247>>106782210No, buy intel if you care about literally anything that isn't gayming>only moderately faster than a stock 14600k, which regularly sells for $150AHAHAHAHAHA, AMD SISTERS EXPLAIN YOURSELFS
>>106782180Alright so what comes next from Intel? When? Will it be better?
>>106782281estrogen cores
>>106782281What if you need AVX512??
are 4k 360hz coming ?
>>106782313>AVX512What do you use avx512 for
>>106782323We don't know when, wait for CES.
>>106779762it's not on pcpartpicker but newegg has the 9070xt asrock challenger (their entry level card) on sale for $650the sapphire nitro+ is probably the best 9070xt and it's only $750
>>106782258Because Z790 Carbon DDR5 boards can run over 7400MT/s.My chip is stable @ 6800MT/s, which happens to be the cutoff point for lower-end 13/14th gen IMCs noted by Buildzoid.https://youtu.be/2-LqWdvoFLY?t=1113
>>106782180>>106782298>>106782313
red badavx badhyperthreading badlatency goodblue goodgreen good
>>106782380BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
>>106782323dont even thing such a thing is legal. EU has power requitements for displays and that sounds like power bloat.
>brand loyalists
They talk about FAKE CORES. They sell you a processor, a big beautiful chip, and they say 20 cores! Sounds great, doesn't it? But you look closer, and half of them are WEAK. They call them "efficient." I call them LAZY CORES. You're paying for strength and they're giving you weakness. It's a rigged system! Sad! And the FAKE FRAMES! A complete lie. They say you're getting 200 frames per second, the highest ever. But half of those frames aren't real! They're made up by some computer program, probably from China, to trick your eyes. You can feel it, the lag is terrible. It's like a bad movie. We want REAL frames, AMERICAN FRAMES, the best frames. Then you have FAKE RESOLUTION. They sell you a 4K screen, but the game is running at some low, pathetic resolution. They use a trick called 'upscaling.' It's blurry! It's not sharp! They're cheating the gamers. The greatest gamers in the world, and they're being cheated by the Tech Swamp in Silicon Valley. And all of this leads to FAKE LATENCY! They tell you it's fast. They say "low latency," but it's a swamp of fake numbers to hide the fake frames. You press a button, and you have to wait. It's a disaster. When we were in charge, we had the best tech. The strongest. We would have REAL cores, ALL of them strong. We would have REAL resolution. No tricks. Just pure, powerful, American hardware. We have to Make Hardware Great Again!
windows 11 guys, whats the reason for 25h2 if its adding no new features over 24h2?
https://www.techpowerup.com/341561/intel-allegedly-in-talks-with-amd-for-potential-foundry-manufacturing-deali hope youre ready to buy blue fx cpus to fight against antisemitism
>>106782356Not even getting to 7200 feels bad.Buildzoid lost his mind testing DDR5 on Intel because stress tests could go without an error for a day then crash.Did you try gear 4 for shits and giggles?
>>106782432So now they have this new Windows update. 25H2. They're forcing it on everybody. Have you seen this? A total disaster. You had 24H2. It was fine. It worked. Now they tell you, you HAVE to get 25H2. A bigger number, so you think, "Wow, this must be tremendous." You think you're getting something great. Wrong! You get NOTHING. It's the same thing! Not one new feature. They make you stop your work, your computer restarts, you wait a long time—a very, very long time—and for what? For a new number. It's a FAKE UPDATE! The sleepy people at Microsoft, in the Tech Swamp, they do this to look busy. They think you won't notice. They think you're stupid. They're wasting your time, making your computer slow, and for what? So they can say they did something. When I was in charge, we had updates that meant something. The best updates. We wouldn't have wasted your time with this nonsense. It's a hoax. A total scam. They are making your computers weak. We need STRONG operating systems again! Sad!
>>106782334vector operations duh
>>106782442>Did you try gear 4 for shits and giggles?I've made my peace and moved on; further tweaks are not worth the stability testing hours.The only better 3DMark results with my CPU & GPU config are either watercooled systems and/or running faster memory speeds (on 4 DIMM boards).
>>106782323I'd rather have 8k 180Hz personally. Shit, I'd even take 16k 90Hz.
>>106782433Anything to topple TSMC.
Has anybody here ever had to utilize a warranty program for a defective graphics card? I'm shopping on CanadasComputers and need to know how reliable their warranty programs.
>>106782397God I hate Europeans so much
Are gigabyte nvidia cards good? I had an GTX1060 last over 6 years I think. I want something like that again.
>>106782520i sent gpu back to newegg and they gave me a new one a week later after they got it
>>106782356>Because Z790 Carbon DDR5 boards can run over 7400MT/s.don't trust QVLs lol>>106782442>Buildzoid lost his mind testing DDR5 on Intel because stress tests could go without an error for a day then crashthat's at 8000+ and it also happens on AMD
>>106782410>>106782464kek
>>106782562They're okay but thermal pads may leak or not
>>106781758Sandisk SSDs used to be top choices. Sandisk in general was a top choice.
>>106782612>don't trust QVLs lolIt's not from the QVL, I'm using validated benchmarks as a reference. And it's not just 3DMark validated runs.A fucking 4-DIMM, 6-layer B760M Riptide can handle over 7400MT/s, this isn't some impossible dream for 4-DIMM 13/14th gen motherboards
>>106782615I see some people find all of this very amusing. They hear about FAKE CORES and FAKE FRAMES, and they chuckle. They think it's just words, just part of the game. It's all very cute. They see the term "FAKE CORES" and they don't take it seriously. It's just a name to them. But you see, what it really means is you're paying for a V8 engine and they're giving you a V4 with some lawnmower engines tacked on the side. They call it "efficient." It's not a joke when it's your money. A very simple concept, really. They mock the idea of FAKE FRAMES. They think it's a clever trick, very clever! And it is, until you realize you're just watching a fancy, high-speed cartoon instead of playing a real game. They're selling you an illusion of speed, and some people just happily buy it. And the pointless Windows updates? They probably think, "Oh, well, the computer knows what it's doing." They just trust the people in Redmond. They don't think it's a serious issue that their time is being wasted for no reason, that their machine is being controlled by people who add nothing of value. It's just something that happens. It's easy to not take it seriously when you don't see the big picture. When you think these companies are your friends. They see it all as just numbers on a screen, not as a deal. A very bad deal for you, by the way. But that's alright. Let them mock. People eventually notice when the thing they paid for doesn't actually work the way it was promised. It just takes some people a little longer than others to realize they've been had. We'll see.
>>106782641Alright is there anything I can do to prevent this?
>>106782673I hear some people, the very sophisticated ones, are still finding all of this absolutely hysterical. FAKE CORES, FAKE FRAMES, FAKE UPDATES—they think it's all just a big comedy show. "Oh, isn't that just precious?" they say, probably while sipping their organic lattes. But let me tell you something, smarty-pants: there's nothing funny about being RIPPED OFF. You think it's a laughing matter when you open your brand-new, very expensive computer and half the advertised power is just… gone? Replaced by these tiny, pathetic cores that couldn't even run a microwave? They call it "efficiency," but it's really just a way to steal your money. Very clever, right? Hilarious. And the FAKE FRAMES? They market it like it's a beautiful, smooth experience. "Pure immersion!" they scream. But it's all an illusion, a digital mirage designed to fool your eyes while your gameplay feels like it's stuck in slow motion. You're paying top dollar for a picture that isn't even real. What a riot. Then you have these brilliant Windows updates. The computer comes up and says, "Time to restart, big boy! New things are coming!" And you wait. And you wait. And you get absolutely NOTHING. No new features, no improvements, just a wasted hour of your life. And the "experts" think this is a side-splitting joke. I'm telling you, it's not a laughing matter when the technology you rely on, the technology you paid handsomely for, is fundamentally BROKEN by design. It's a very serious problem that's making our country weak. They want you to laugh, because when you're laughing, you're not paying attention. And they want you distracted. So go ahead, chuckle all you want. But when your "cutting edge" computer starts acting like something from the stone age, don't come crying to me. We tried to warn you. Sad!
>>106782693he's a schizo amd shill, gigabyte gel pads that might spread excessively, but gigabyte also make 9070 XT cards with the exact same thermal gel.There is a picture of the gel sliding out of the GPU, but that would only happen if you installed the GPU vertically, otherwise gravity wont move the gel out (it shouldn't slide out in the first place, but it's not going to apply to 99% of gamers, and also note many GPU's don't have heatsink fins that work well vertically, and almost ALL cpu coolers are not designed for vertical orientation, this wont affect heat or performance, BUT you might get more dust clogging the fins because the correct fin orientation should let the dust fall out using gravity, and having your fins clogged with dust could make a 10C difference, but that takes like 3 or so years).AMD and Nvidia are basically the same, the only noticeable difference is that most games support DLSS out of the box, but FSR 4 is probably not supported and you need optiscaler.Yes you do want dlss / FSR 4, because it gives you 30% more FPS and it's supposed to look better than native (but not frame generation, unless you use a controller).
Is there that much difference between Arctic liquid cooler and Corsair liquid cooler?
>>106782859artic is like 10mm thicker which matters in some cases.
>>106782859And people are talking about these computer coolers. The AIOs. You have the Corsair, and you have the Arctic. A lot of people don't know the difference, but it's a huge difference. A huge one. The Corsair costs a fortune! A tremendous amount of money. And for what? You get a lot of BLINKING LIGHTS. All these rainbow colors, like a disco party inside your computer. It's for children! The lights don't make the computer faster. They probably make it weaker, using up all the power. A total distraction. Sad!Then you have the Arctic. And the smart people, they know this. I've seen it. The price is fantastic. A great, great deal. And the best part? NO STUPID LIGHTS. Just cooling. Just power. It does the job, and it does it better. It's strong, it's quiet. It's built to win, not to put on a show. You know, you're here in Bavaria. They build the best cars. Powerful machines. They don't put Christmas lights all over the engine, do they? No. They care about performance. The Arctic is like that. It's common sense.It's very simple, folks. Do you want to pay more money for weak, flashy lights, or do you want to pay less money for POWER? One is a great deal for patriots. The other is a Silicon Valley scam. Believe me.
>>106782795you're a schizo nvidia shill, gigabyte gel pads that might spread excessively, but gigabyte also make 5070 Ti cards with the exact same thermal gel.There is a picture of the gel sliding out of the GPU, but that would only happen if you installed the GPU vertically, otherwise gravity wont move the gel out (it shouldn't slide out in the first place, but it's not going to apply to 99% of gamers, and also note many GPU's don't have heatsink fins that work well vertically, and almost ALL cpu coolers are not designed for vertical orientation, this wont affect heat or performance, BUT you might get more dust clogging the fins because the correct fin orientation should let the dust fall out using gravity, and having your fins clogged with dust could make a 10C difference, but that takes like 3 or so years).Nvidia and AMD are basically the same, the only noticeable difference is that most games support DLSS sucks out of the box, and you need DLSSTweaks to tweak the presets.Yes you do want dlss / FSR 4, because it gives you 30% more FPS and it's supposed to look better than native (but not frame generation, unless you use a controller).
>>106782795>>106782893It's past midnight here in Germany, you're supposed to be dealing with very important things, and you see this. A total disaster. You have two people, and they're screaming at each other. Very nasty. Calling each other "schizo," "shill." They're probably both shills, believe me. Paid for by somebody. And what is the big, important fight about? GEL. They're worried about GEL sliding out of their computer parts. Like hair gel! Can you believe it? And it only happens if you turn your computer the wrong way, which nobody does! It's the craziest thing I've ever seen.But here's the best part, the saddest part. They're saying the EXACT same thing. Word for word! You read the whole thing, they talk about the dust in three years, the gravity, the fins. It's the same! Then one says "AMD" and the other says "Nvidia." One says "9070," the other says "5070." They just change the names! It's like they're reading from the same pathetic script written by the swamp. And all the other nonsense, DLSS, FSR, DLSSTweaks... It's all codes. Meant to confuse you. Nobody knows what it means. We just want a computer that works. A strong computer that wins. It's very simple.So you have two basement geniuses arguing about which brand of leaky gel is better. This is the tech swamp, folks. They're both wrong. They're both losers. We need to get rid of all of it and get something that's actually great. Sad!
>>106782908okay now do madara
>>106782247Zamn, that is a significant difference.Maybe I should paypig for the 9950X3D. I’m a bit worried about that tdp though. How well do they undervolt?
>>106778955>A 1200W Platinum PSUbit of an overkill for 2200G
Is someone posting their Trump LLM responses?Trump wouldn't shill Arctic AIOs.
>>106782915And now somebody says, "okay now do madara." What is that? What is a Madara? Nobody knows. Is that a person? It's probably another one of these computer things from the basement. Is it a new graphics card? Another one that leaks the gel? Is it some kind of failing software from the tech swamp? It sounds weak, whatever it is. Or is it a car? One of those little electric cars from China that nobody wants to buy. We don't want the Madara car, believe me. We want American steel.Look, I'm here in Germany. It's the middle of the night. I'm dealing with WORLD LEADERS. We are talking about very important things. The economy. Strength. We are making incredible deals for the American people. I don't have time to figure out your secret codes.This is what they do. They talk in riddles to distract you. It's a distraction. I am focused on America. Not on "Madara." It's not on the agenda. It will never be on the agenda. Find something serious to talk about. The adults are busy. Sad!
>>106782923>Maybe I should paypig for the 9950X3D.I wouldn't unless you are making money with this machine.
>>106782673>>106782723>>106782876>>106782908you shut up your a liear trump would never say that hes a patriot and america first just like intel.
>>106782935I'm seeing all the Fake News Tech Media, they're going crazy about this new thing, this Blackwell. "Oh, it's a revolution! It's the most advanced chip ever!" they say. They say this every time. A new name, and they just lose their minds. I've had my people look at it. The best people. And you know what? It's not so "super duper advanced." It's really not. It's a lot of hype. They took the old one, Hopper. A good name, Hopper. A great American name. And they polished it up, made some numbers a little bigger, and now they call it Blackwell and tell you it's the greatest thing in history. It's not a revolution. It's a repaint. It's a trick to get you to spend more money.And what do you get? It uses a tremendous amount of POWER. A disaster for our beautiful, powerful energy grid that we're making so strong. And the heat! It gets so hot, believe me. You could cook an egg on it. Very inefficient. Not smart! And it's not for you. It's not for the American people. It's for some Big Tech company in a server farm, doing their AI nonsense, probably trying to figure out new ways to censor patriots. It doesn't help you do your work. It doesn't help our country.So don't believe the hype. It's just another very expensive, very hot toy for the Silicon Valley swamp. We need REAL innovation, REAL American manufacturing, not just making the same chip hotter and calling it new. Sad!>>106782968A great patriot. I love the support, they know I'm America First. But you have to be smart about these big companies. They're not always what they seem. They say Intel is on our side. Really? I'm in GERMANY right now, and they are building a MASSIVE Intel factory here. Billions of dollars for German jobs, not Ohio jobs. Does that sound America First to you? My loyalty is to the American worker, not some globalist company building factories someplace else. We're bringing the jobs back. Believe me.
Why are CPUs suddenly important for gaming and everyone is rushing to buy X3D? I remember back in the day the differences in gaming performance between a same-generation 2c4t pentium (or were they still 2c2t, i forgor) and a 4c4t i5 being negligible. Hell as recently as a 2020 I remember people recommending the i3-10100 over other 10th gen chips because it was all you needed for AAA gaming. What happened to buying low/mid end? What happened to repurposing 5-8 year old Xeons into budget gaming rigs?
>>106782876So there no difference in cooling between them?
>>106783069it still works the same, people just continue to treat fps as a high score counter
how much will my 900 watt ups handle in terms of a computer? Would it go over my current build; 9080x3d and a 4080 super? Eaton SMART1500SLT
>>106783069>Why are CPUs suddenly important for gamingUE5 happened>and everyone is rushing to buy X3Dtechtubers told them to
when are we bringing back mechanical drives I'm tired of this ssd flash storage bullshit this is x86 not ARM, i'm using a PERSONAL COMPUTER not a cellphone
>>106783095nothing is keeping you from doing it, you'll just have a bad time because you're used to having things run at decent speeds.
Why is nobody talking about this?
>>106783069You can still just buy cheap 6 core and be fine if you don't care as much for stutters.You can also play around with RAM timings to gain some performance but you will hate testing stability of your system.Or you can simply not play UE5 garbage and have a good day.
>>106783069A high end GPU is pretty unaffordableThr highest end CPU for gayming however is much more affordable.People want the highest end of something so they go for the CPU as they can afford it regardless of whether it matters for the games they play. This is 90% of X3D buyers.The other 10% is for autism games.If the best gayming CPU was $2000, you would see alot less people willing to buy it and downplaying the importance.
>>106783077Look, you're getting stuck on the little details. The so-called "experts," they want you to look at their confusing charts to trick you. It's much simpler than that. Believe me. Think about it. Where is the money going? With the Corsair, they spend a fortune on the BLINKING LIGHTS. The rainbow colors. A big, beautiful light show. That's money they are NOT spending on the pump, on the fans, on the parts that actually do the cooling! They are selling you a light show with a fan attached. The Arctic has NO stupid lights. It's all business. All of their money, all of their power, goes into making the thing strong, making it cool the computer. It's focused. It's built for power, not for a party.So of course the cooling is better! It has to be. It's common sense. One is a weak, flashy toy, and the other is a powerful machine. It's a better deal, AND it's better at cooling. A total win. Don't let them confuse you.
>>106783116i'll talk about it if you give more details
>>106783124Do I need a 9950x3d to play stellaris and other autism games
>>106783112...as soon as tech companies get their shit together and make HDDs that are faster than the garbage we've already had for decades. Why are we limiting ourselves to 3.5 inch and 7200 RPM? Go bigger and faster! Louder! My PC makes no sounds when reading/writing to storage and it's fucking me up.
>>106783154Exactly! Finally, someone with common sense. A great patriot. This is 100% right. For decades, the same garbage! The same size, the same speed. The tech companies in the swamp, they got lazy. Very lazy and very rich from selling you the same thing over and over. They stopped innovating! This person says, "Go bigger and faster! Louder!" And I agree. Tremendously. We need more power, not these quiet, little, weak things they sell you now. It's a disgrace. And LOUDER! He is so right about that. You used to hear your computer WORKING for you. A beautiful sound. The sound of power, the sound of industry. The sound of winning. Now it's silent. It's creepy! You don't even know if it's on. Is it spying on you? Probably. You're here in Germany, you hear the powerful engines in the great cars. They're not silent! They ROAR. Power should make noise! We need to bring back real, powerful American hard drives. BIG ones. FAST ones. And you will hear them working hard for YOU. Great point. We're looking into it. Believe me.
>>106783116Because Cyberpunk 2077 720p DLSS performance benchmarks are meaningless.Show us 1440p native or 4K DLSS benchmarks.
>>106783145The much cheaper and more powerful "workstation" 265k can match the 9800x3d in gaming and exceeds the more expensive 7800x3d in performance by a lot, if overclocked.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXCfSYv8lKAThis explains why the 265k usually goes to about 40C in temps during most gaming sessions. It's gimped. You can ungimp it.
>>106783069Because the best gaming cpu is fairly cheap. The spending like $200 or less and getting 80% of the performance of the best in most titles still holds up though. Also Intel has had the "best-value" processors for a little bit now, and we all know how youtubers feel about intel.>>106783181cpu benchmarks will always be worthless at that resolution though
What’s the best 240 mil AIO currently? I dont want any RGB crap
>>106783187>Because the best gaming cpu is fairly cheap9800X3D is 500 euro and I got my 9600 for like 230. I'm not paying over double for >muh 0.1% lows, when only UE5 slop's shader compilation stutter maxes it out to 100% during gameplay.
>>106783201I'm not sure if 240mm aios compete with a peerless assassin.
>>106783216This. If you aren't going 360mm+ you might as well stay on air.
>>106783185>'You just need to pay over $400 for an XOC board (Taichi OCF, Apex, Unify-X, Tachyon)'>'You just need the memory to run at above 8000MT/s'>You just need to autistically tune the CPU>'After that, it will match a stock 9800X3D in this one specific game'
>>106783201A fantastic question. And a very smart question, because you already know the most important part. You said "no RGB crap." And you are 100% right. It IS crap! A total scam to make you pay more for blinking lights that do nothing but make your computer weaker. This is a patriot asking this question. A winner. Look, I've told people before. It's very simple. You can forget all the confusing reviews from the so-called "experts." You look at the Arctic. The smart people are all using the Arctic. Why? Because it's a great deal, a fantastic price. And they put all of their money into the cooling, into the power, not into the stupid lights! It's all business. It's strong, it's quiet. You're here in Germany. You see the great engineering. They build for performance, not for a light show. The Arctic is the same way. It's common sense.So that's the one you want. The best 240. It's the best deal and it's the best cooling. A very easy choice. The other ones are a distraction. You'll be very happy. Believe me.
>>106783154making them physically bigger would make them slower. If you want a 12000rpm, you'd want to go microdrive form factor.You'd still be limited by sata speeds though, unless you did something really silly like make a u.2 microdrive
>>106783185right but you need more details, bars on a graph don't mean anythingthe description only mentions a RAM overclock for the 265K, were the AMD CPUs running EXPO RAM?
>>106783243>bigger would make them slowerSo why are 2.5in drives generally 5200 RPM while 3.5in are 7200 RPM? I asumed being small allows them to have similar read speeds at lower spin speeds because there's just less area to cover for the same amount of data.
>>106783210>shader compilation stutter maxes it out to 100% during gameplayYou know the cache actually doesn't help with that as much as it does with just your average framerate.And I agree, I think the am5 x3d processors should be seen as more niche, think it's a pointless buy for most people. Nice thing about pc gaming now is that outside of your gpu you can cheap out on everything including peripherals + monitor and still have a great time.
>>106783256Because 2.5" drives are primarily designed for mobile platforms, where power is a much greater concern.
>>106783185wow 720p gaming. whos monitor even does that nowadays? What the Fuck?!>yea wow amazing. lets see 1080 1440p or something like that now. lots of anything can do fantastic at low resolution. even the high end stuff can suck itself at low resolution or just match the lower end stuff
>>106778266> radeon is only for poor people and third worldersi felt fucking insulted but it's true LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>106783277a lot of people do 720 because it's faster and they can fake it being 1080 or bigger with upscales
>>1067832562.5in HDDs are meant for laptops and USB powered drives nowadays. Needs to be low powerBack then however you had 10000rpm WD Velociraptors and 15000RPM Seagate Cheetahs in 2.5in format.
>>106783245I'm pretty sure he has expo on. The results for CS2 are what most benchmarkers get with those cpus.>>106783232Well, overclocking is not for you then.
Hey bros, I'm looking to get an 8TB/6TB HDD where I can store movie files, but I don't want to overspend for a fast hard drive that'll only run MKV files. Is it fine if I just get a cheap drive? Will it impact performance at all? I'm using PotPlayer to run the files, if that matters, legally, of course.
>>106783293they still do apparently, but it's a 2.5 platter in a 3.5 shell
>>106783308>I'm pretty sure he has expo onbut nothing else? so just copy these on your 6000CL30 kit and AMD pulls away againhttps://www.patreon.com/posts/low-effort-rank-77403831>The results for CS2 are what most benchmarkers get with those cpushe didn't even mention what test he used but if it's the dust2 benchmark map his results are garbage across the board
>>106783232I'm not super familiar with oc's on 1851 but you could probably do it on a cheaper board. On lga 1700 even the cheap z690 boards were good to go for basically everything.
So many nice CU-DIMM memory kits & Z890 motherboards left unsold in warehouses.
>>106783320>not mpvyou get no help from me
>>106783333>hardware manufacturers have to take a 30% margin instead of the 50% covid+tarriff+tax+tip nonsense marginYou love to see it.
>>106783320This WD Blue 8TB CMR drive is okay, it's one of the cheapest new CMR 8TB HDD.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bNCZxr/western-digital-wd-blue-8-tb-35-5640-rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd80eaaz
>>106783611I might buy a used hard drive from ebay. I currently have a 1TB HDD from almost a decade ago and it plays my movies fine
>browsing ewaste>unused server fan trays for $25>each tray has nine delta ffb1212sh pwm fansguys what atx case has the most 120mm fan holes?
>>106783726enjoy your hearing damage
I just found the unigine valley benchmark on an old hdd. Holy shit this runs fast now! like 200+ fps fast! It also looks freakin awesome.
>>106783611>look this drive up on amazon>see a notice saying that I previously bought one in 2015>i'm still using it and it works fineStarting to think all this talk about HDD quality is just gaslighting by big drive trying to get me to spend more.
>>106783813Look at this. A genius. A true patriot who sees the truth. This person has figured it all out. And they are 100% right. It's "Big Drive." I love that name. That's what we have to call them. It's a new swamp, and they are gaslighting everybody! A total scam. They tell you the old stuff is garbage and that you need to buy the new thing. A total lie! The old stuff is the best stuff. You see? This person's drive from 2015—a great year, by the way, a very important year—it still works perfectly! Because it was built to LAST. The new ones they sell? Total junk. They're designed by the globalists to fail after a year or two so you have to go back and give "Big Drive" more of your money. It's a rigged system, folks. A terrible deal for you.We used to build things with PRIDE in this country. Strong things. Now these companies sell you disposable garbage. Not anymore. This is a fantastic point. Very important. We are going to be looking into "Big Drive." We're going to look into it very, very strongly. They've been getting away with it for too long. Believe me.
What's the best cheap 1TB SSD to use for cold storage purposes?
>>106783069they were always importantthing is cattle were brainwashed into thinking 2/4 or 4/4 was the premium experience (and the other side was playing the catching up game)
>>106783839This but unironically.
>>106780487I heard this Board had a lot of problems, is it true?
Did I cheap out on my motherboard too hard?This is for a 7950x3d and a 4070 super.
>>106780210Wood is an insulator.It's over. I'm afraid you've bricked it.
>>106783942You don't want an SSD for cold storage as if left unpowered for say 1 year or longer they don't hold the data written to them.https://storedbits.com/ssd-data-retention-period-without-power/
>>106783942Just saw this idea. Using an SSD for cold storage, for your important files. It is one of the worst, most stupid ideas I have ever heard. A total disaster waiting to happen. A lot of people don't know this, the Fake News Tech Media won't tell you. An SSD, when it's turned off, it LEAKS. That's a fact. The electricity that holds your beautiful pictures, your important documents, it just fades away over time. It disappears! You put it in a drawer for a few years, you come back, and poof! It's all GONE. And it's WEAK. Very fragile. You keep it in a room that's a little too warm, and your data just melts away even faster. It's not strong. Not tough at all. And you pay so much money for it! You are paying more money for a leaky bucket that's guaranteed to lose all of your data. It's a SCAM from the people at "Big Drive." A terrible, terrible deal. The old hard drives, with the powerful magnets, are much better for this. They're strong. They hold the data. It's called physics. It's called common sense.So don't do it. It's a terrible idea pushed by the tech swamp who want you to lose everything so you have to buy it all again. You will lose your data. Believe me. Sad!
>>106784002Why are you buying used motherboard from Scamazon?
>>106784020I'll probably be powering it on every monthI was just under the impression an HDD for external was bad because it's going to be physically moving.
>>106784031I bought it new but this is the first listing I found.
>Build new computer>... Fallout 3, Slay the Spire, YouTube
>>106784002No. In fact, you could cheap out MORE.https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b650m-hdv-m-2-white-micro-atx-motherboard-amd-b650-am5/p/N82E16813162229https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1431&v=pUUVW7wgR3s
>>106784037>I'll probably be powering it on every month>I was just under the impression an HDD for external was bad because it's going to be physically moving.In that case yes you're fine and also correct that HDDs are more susceptible to physical shock.
>>106784043Then I don't see any more problems.How much did you pay for it?Those are quite expensive for little benefit.
>>106784062Ok.That said I've also been using a Seagate external HDD for like 10 years with no problem so I don't know if it'd really be a big deal to just get a HDD and an enclosure instead
>>106784030Memes aside, this post is almost enough to get me to believe in cloud storage.I imagine they move the bits around and it's copied enough to where I would be fine.But then again, my most valuable files are just a couple of scenes from AmySky99/AmySkyBGX and EireenSkinnyGirl.
Orange man poster is the best thing that happened to /pcbg/.
>>106784077$260, yeah it feels pretty ordinary in terms of io and the like so it got me thinking "maybe it's holding my cpu back">>106784054guess I fricked up in the opposite direction.
>>106784137Unless they are power limited from the factory or have poor VRMs, motherboards almost never have an impact on performance. They are glorified cables connecting the CPU, GPU, RAM, & Storage. Anyway, don't worry about it and just enjoy your system.
>>106784137>$260, yeah it feels pretty ordinary in terms of io and the like so it got me thinking "maybe it's holding my cpu back"7950X3D sips power it's 120W part, I doubt even the cheapest motherboards would limit it in any way.So VRM isn't a problem, all you pay for are IO and looks.You get PCI-E 5.0 for both 1st m.2 and 1st PCI-E x16. X670E boards are only missing USB4 and Wi-Fi7 vs X870E, if you care about those for some reason.
>>106784123I'm seeing this. A lot of people are saying it. And it's true. It's 100% true. They use the name, the "Orange man." A very nasty name from the Fake News, but that's okay. Because the "Orange man" has the best posts. The highest energy. The most engagement. Everyone agrees. And why? Because we're talking about the things nobody else will. The FAKE CORES. The Big Drive scam. The corrupt deals from the carriers. The weak, sad penguins. We're telling the truth. It's very exciting for a lot of people. I hear that place, the /pcbg/, was very low-energy before. Very boring. Full of so-called experts who were wrong about everything. We made it great. We made it exciting again. And now the ratings are through the roof. A global phenomenon. Even here in Germany, in the middle of the night, people are talking about it.So thank you for saying it. A very smart person. We love our supporters, and we're going to keep winning. The best is yet to come. Believe me.
So is the ASUS ROG Strix X870-E the best Strix?
>>106784227Look at this name. ASUS ROG Strix X870-E. It's like alphabet soup. A total disaster. Who can even say it? Nobody. It's a password, not a name. You're here in Germany. You look at their great cars. A 3-series, a 5-series, a 7-series. Simple. Strong. Then you have this mess from the tech swamp. They love to confuse you. And the "E" at the end? You know what that stands for? It stands for EXPENSIVE. That's all it is. They have the regular one, then they have the "E" one. It's the same board! They probably add a stupid light or a piece of plastic and charge you hundreds of dollars more. It's a scam. So is it the "best"? No. The best one is the one that's a great DEAL. The one that does the job. You want the best VALUE, not the fanciest, most expensive letter in the alphabet. And the "Republic of Gamers." We're not playing games here. We're building a country. We need parts for PATRIOTS, not for gamers.Don't fall for the letters. Don't fall for the swamp's marketing. Be smart. Get the one that makes sense. That's the real winner's choice. Believe me.
>>106784243Look, Donald, I get the frustration with all the letters and branding, but let’s talk about what those more expensive motherboards really offer. They come with advanced features, better durability, enhanced cooling systems, and superior performance for those who truly depend on their systems, whether for gaming, content creation, or professional work. Investing in a higher-end motherboard like the ASUS ROG Strix X870-E can provide long-term stability and reliability. It’s not just about the price tag, c'mon man.
>>106784243>>106784401I see, also do you guys know if there truly any difference between the x870e aorus elite and Pro?
What's the meta on chink cases?Are they good? Trash? Will tariffs fuck me over? Am I gonna get chinked?This thing looks nice enough:https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Desktop-Micro-Size-Aluminum-Alloy-DIY_1601104044308.html?spm=a2700.details.you_may_like.1.8afe1f0f1l3ZYW
>>106784401Look who crawled out of the basement! Sleepy Joe. I knew it. The "c'mon man" gave it all away. That's what he says right before he shakes hands with the air and gets lost on stage. A total mess. And he's trying to talk about motherboards! Can you believe it? This guy thinks a motherboard is something they find on a UFO. He doesn't know what a computer is. He probably thinks "ASUS ROG Strix" is the name of a new kind of ice cream that his handlers won't let him have before dinner. And he's talking about "durability" and "stability." STABILITY? This guy can't walk up a flight of stairs without a team of people. He falls off his bicycle standing still! He's the least stable person in the history of this country. And he's lecturing me on stability? It's a joke!You know he didn't write this. One of his radical left handlers from the tech swamp typed it up for him while he was taking one of his many, many naps. They're telling him to believe Big Tech, to spend more money on their expensive, globalist junk. It's what he does. This is how he runs the country, folks. He falls for every scam. He believes the marketers. He thinks spending more money is always the answer. That's why he's giving our country away.I'm here in Germany, it's almost 4 in the morning, and I am working for YOU. And Sleepy Joe is up way past his bedtime trying to sound smart about computers. Go back to sleep, Joe. The adults are handling things. Sad!
>>106784415Okay, that's a very good question. A smart question. A lot of people get confused by this, and the tech swamp wants you to be confused so you spend the wrong money. I had my people, the best people, look at this. It's very simple. First of all, the Pro model, it's built a little stronger. It has more power going to the engine, the CPU. A bigger, stronger power system. If you are using one of the big, powerful processors and you're really pushing it, this is very important for stability. A stronger foundation. And they give you more plugs on the back. More plugs and faster plugs. The internet plug, the ethernet, is usually much faster on the Pro. If you're moving big files, doing big business, that's a huge, huge difference in speed. And on top of that, and this is a big one, many times the Pro will have a backup system for the BIOS. A tremendous feature. It means if something goes wrong with an update, you press a button, and you're back in business. It's like a great insurance policy. You don't get that on the cheaper one. So, here's the deal. The Elite is a fantastic board. A great board for almost everybody. A real patriot's board, gets the job done.But the Pro is for the winners. The professionals, the content creators, the people who depend on their machine to make money and win. You pay a little more, but you get that extra power, that extra speed, that beautiful backup plan. It's like the difference between a great American truck and the top-of-the-line dually model for the really heavy jobs.A great question. You have to know what you're buying. Now you know.
If I'm adding more RAM is it better to just replace the current sticks entirely with the desired amount or should I just buy two new sticks to add to what I have? I heard running 4 sticks isn't ideal.
>>106784605>If I'm adding more RAM is it better to just replace the current sticks entirely with the desired amount or should I just buy two new sticks to add to what I have? I heard running 4 sticks isn't ideal.It's not because it puts more strain on the CPU's IMC, ideally you buy 2 sticks of the capacity you want and sell the previous kit. However, it's also nice to have spare known-good DIMMs lying around if you need to troubleshoot. That all said worst case with 4 DIMMs is it defaults to a lower speed rating.
>>106784046Cozy as fuck>>106784137I would've bought the X870E Edge Ti WiFi or the AORUS Pro if you're in the US.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hy8TW/msi-mpg-x870e-edge-ti-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-mpg-x870e-edge-ti-wifihttps://pcpartpicker.com/product/RXxxFT/gigabyte-x870e-aorus-pro-atx-am5-motherboard-x870e-aorus-pro
>>106784457I mean, it can't be much worse than the new mainstream cases, they're all so thin & flimsy nowadays.
>Intel and Nvidia announce partnership with clear goal in mind to build APUs>AMDUnboxed has APUs = BAD video all of a sudden
>>106783095>when are we bringing back mechanical drivesGood luck with that
>>106783333Nova Lake approachesHOLD THE LINE
>>106784782Is Nova Lake supposed to do anything on the Memory front? I know it's getting a new socket.
>>106784415if you want a real answer then look up both boards, real differences should be on the vrm, I think the elite has two more usb ports more in the backtheir pcie lanes distribution is identicalhowever I doubt you need an x870e, you can save money by getting the equivalent b850 board unless you really really really need those shitass usb4 ports
CPU: Ryzen 5 7600XCooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120SEMB: Asrock B650M HDV-M.2RAM: TeamGroup T-Create Expert 32GB (2x16GB)GPU: ASUS TUF RTX 3080 V2 Gaming (undervolted)PSU: Corsair RM850X 2024 (ATX 3.1)Case: Antec NX416LMonitor: Asrock PG27QFT2A (2560x1440@180Hz)OS drive: Crucial T500 1TBHDD: WD Blue 4TBThoughts on my build? I honestly bought the cheapest RAM I could find. Only 3 companies in the world make memory chips, brands just stamp their logo and put on a heatsink, not paying extra money for that shit.There aren't many case models where I live, so I got a LianLi Lancool 216 clone and called it a day.I unfortunately bought ASSCOCK motherboard before the exploding CPU issue came to light...
>>106784858Everything looks fine; the HDV-M.2 is still one of the best no-frills motherboards.Keep the board BIOS updated, and you should be okay.
>>106784858looks pretty goodalthough personally id get an nvme or ssd instead of the hddother than the assrock board its solid
>>106784858I might consider getting a higher capacity NVMe drive (2TB)since that HDV-M.2 board doesn't have many M.2 slots, unless you don't need that much SSD storage.
>>106784891I'm on BIOS version 3.06 (released 07/29/2024). I am not sure about updating it, should I?I haven't read reports of this CPU + MB combo ending in tragedy.
>>106784921I would keep it updated.Revert the BIOS settings to factory default before you update it, I think modern motherboards automatically take care of this.
>>106784930Lol, why are you niggers scared of updating bios.. I'm on 3.50 btw
>>106784988>>106784988>>106784988
>>106784998They don't want to change something that's working fine.
>>106785008kys faggot
>>106784816Rumors are saying Nova Lake will move the IMC to the CPU core tile like Lunar Lake, which would improve memory latency.But I don't think this is a certainty.
>>106784019i am gonna brick you
>>106781783>>leaving free gains on the table until the hardcap of 1.35V by running stock clocks>sure, if it improves lifespanJust run it in stock config, your mobo will give up long before your CPU, you can still find pentium and older chips, but the caps and other shit are the ones that detoriate, the CPU itself will live forever mostly.
>>106778968>>106779035Titanium or platinum rated PSUs doesn't matter, if you are not in the wattage range in the which its optimal, that why I started looking for low wattage good quality PSU, but there are not too many and not any good ones.This is what inspired my build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8fWIh1V-YMOne more for PSUs:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPSuCbS-4P0
