/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsAkashi Edition>NewsZ.AI releases GLM 4.6 - https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6Anthropic releases Sonnet 4.5 - Big upgrade in RP quality - https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5?p=2DeepSeek releases V3.2-Exp - Still no change in RP quality https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus - https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat >Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>Metalore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgPrevious: >>106790765
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>>106795834Final Phantom ShillVioletta Fantôme, the mysterious criminal who ejaculates on priceless treasures!You're an Interpol detective tasked with catching this nefarious nutter before she cums again. She'll leave a riddle every time, and you need to decode them to catch her.8 openings, all with different artifacts and different riddles to solve.Based on my testing, the AI is pretty good about knowing what she's planning to jizz on based on the riddle.https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/violetta-fantome-78dd740d55c3https://files.catbox.moe/csz3g9.pnghttps://rentry.org/anonemouseThere's no spoilers on /g/, so I guess go to the /vg/ thread if you want to see the answers to her riddles.Or just figure them out. They're really not that hard.
tldr for the previous thread?
claude brosis it really over because of some jackass trying too hard to seem smart?I dont WANT to be associated with seething retards like this. :(this is fucking embarrassing man...
Best ai for nsfw roleplay? That I can run locally
>>106795854Chinese products matching western SOTA for 1/1000th the price, dropshipping middlemen make bank, in other news water is wet and w++ is trash
>>106795854>loganon drops TRVKEs on slopustrannies heads for 3 consecutive threads>slopus proven to be slop with logs>slopustrannies absolutely SEETHING and MALDING, axewounds WEEPING pus>strong indication slopustrannies might be pic related tasked with keeping people from using Chinese models
>>106795854Console wars
>>106795828for a moment I thought she was pregnant
>>106795892make it happen
>>106795875So am i the only one who noticed loganon was fucking jennyanon or am I the schizo for pointing this out >>106792493what the actual fuck????
>>106795877SNES is best, Sega is for faggas.
>>106795901>jennyanonYou may be surprised by how many rabbit holes around here lead to the same place, little noticer.
>>106795901There's like 5 people in this thread bro, I check here every few months but it's always a nothingburger. All the bots and cards moved to /vg/ and le funni proxy era is over so it's just a husk inhabited by a few people
>>106795828How do i jb gemini 2.5, pllsssDoes kintsugi still work, i tried but i keeps returning prohibited content
>>106795941https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
>>106795914>oldfaggot avatardnigger returns to bake two threads while posting his sovlkino logs while demanding others post their logsBVTH KNVVS KNVVLING
>>106795963Buth knuus knuuling?
>>106795861that one could theoretically run: glm 4.6that your pc will actually run: mistral nemo
Still no GPT?
>>106795967The whole point of 'arty speak is to be completely incomprehensible to people outside of it.
>>106795968it's been like a year and mistral nemo is still labeled as the best, looking bad for localbros
>>106795941Use a prefill. Or check the last thread, I think someone posted a jb
>>106795861What is the point of running shit locally when even the worst free models are still likely better than anything you could do? I genuinely don't get it.
How do I use a prefill with Gemini? I can't find the option/field
>>106796102same method https://rentry.org/openrouter-claudeprefill-spoonfeed
>>106796115If that's the case then I already had one, and Gemini keeps refusing every single message. Useless faggot ass model.
>>106796124works on my machine
>>106796124poison the context a bit more, you are probably jumping straight into sex on the first message
>>106795841you can spoiler text on chub or hide it in >Details
>>106796141How do you spoiler text on chub?[spoiler]Not like this, I assume?[/spoiler]
>>106796093What are good online models then?
>>106796159<details><summary>Spoiler Warning</summary>Nigger</details>
<details><summary>Spoiler Warning</summary>Nigger</details>
>>106795145Wait, 10 dollars gets you over 500 responses? is Sonnet that cheap? How is this calculated? I'm retarded, but I'd like to calc the price for some other models
>>106796344Sonnet is quite cheap with caching.Not Chinese cheap but it's worth IMO.
why is a cute girl thread on page 6? are we gay?
>>106795854Sonnet has been getting sloppier ever since 4 started. Anons failed to prove Claude was some super special model worth using. At best it is a marginal improvement, but is often much worse due to positivity.
>>106796025Because localbros are unironically running glm 4.6. Well, GLM Air.
>>106795926>le funni proxy eraThis was the worst era and I'm glad it's gone.
Seems like the CCP nigger shill is finally asleep and stopped spamming the thread
If China slop is "good" why can't it stay in character without it becoming ERP or over playing one part of the personality
>>106796975He wonned and you losted. What more needs to be said?
Any public gpt proxies yet?
Remember when Jennyfag hosted and got his localshit models spited so hard he cried and never hosted them again? Weird that happened why didn't he just not get spited?
>>106797121nonnie's fart filled the room, u smell of fart and desperation UwU
What do we call sonnet 4.5 ? Neonorbert?
>>106797182if it's up to this shithole general then it will be called something like nintendnorbert
>>106797025>pretending slopus stays is characterKEK
>>106795828>>106795834>excuse of a thread to dump your gelbooru folderfuck off
>5-latest is starting to dish out refusalsnoooofortunately it still works with my ultra hard jailbreak prompt, but it's a sign of doom to come
>>106797169"Nyaaah~!" *She quickly smacks your head from both sides, momentarily concussing you. While you're still dazed she yoinks down your pants and underwear. Other /g/ anons notice the commotion, their eyes drifting to your exposed junk.What will you do next Anon?*
>>106797322*BONK* "YOOOOO WHAT THE FUCK—" *I stumble backwards, vision swimming, pants around my ankles in the middle of the goddamn /g/ meetup***Anonymous ID:xX_R1C3_Xx**: "BRO IS THAT A THINKPAD T420 IN YOUR POCKET OR—oh wait nvm that's just his dick lmaooooo"**Anonymous ID:TempleOS_Prophet**: "TERRY DAVIS DIDN'T DIE FOR THIS" *starts praying to a CRT monitor**I'm still seeing stars but pure adrenaline kicks in* "ALRIGHT YOU ABSOLUTE GREMLIN—" *I try to pull my pants up but trip over them instead, faceplanting directly into a table covered in mechanical keyboards***CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK** *Cherry MX Blues flying EVERYWHERE like some kind of keycap shrapnel grenade***Anonymous ID:Arch_BTW**: "MY HHKB NOOOOO" *dives to save his $300 keyboard**I roll over, finally yank my pants up, face red as fuck*"You know what? FUCK IT. You wanna play dirty? TWO CAN PLAY AT THAT GAME!"*I grab the nearest weapon I can find—a fucking NVIDIA RTX 4090 box (empty, obviously, nobody actually GOT one)*"PREPARE FOR THE WRATH OF JENSEN HUANG'S LEATHER JACKET SPIRIT!" *I charge at her like a deranged Best Buy employee, the box held high like Excalibur***Anonymous ID:Rust_Evangelist**: "WORLDSTAR! WORLDSTAR!" *starts live streaming to Twitch***Anonymous ID:SystemD_Hater**: "This is why we can't have nice things" *sips Mountain Dew philosophically*What's YOUR next move, you absolute chaos agent?
Guys, please, what's the best model at JP > EN translation? Anyone who uses luna translator can help me?
>>106795828>sonnet 4.5 writes just like chorbo>Big upgrade in RP qualityi know what you are
>>106797635given that english you can use gemini 2.5 flash and not notice anything wrong
>>106797674>>106797667farts
>>106797635There was a guy in /lmg/ who made his own finetunes for that but also benchmarked API models as well as local models. But he disappeared long ago and there's been no new comparisons.All and all, just use whatever you can get. Current gen should be more than adequate, if I had to pay I'd go with DS API since it's dirt cheap now and with carefully set up term definitions, example translations, pointers, you could full utilize the caching discount while getting the highest precision.
another day another GODpus coom
>>106797740I think I remember that guy, thanks Anon! I was between using grok 4 fast and sonnet 4.5, but I'll take a look at how Deepseek goes against them
>>106797635Just use the most intelligent model you can get. GPT-5, Gemini 2.5 Pro, latest Sonnet, even latest Deepseek, those are all the peak of current AI translation.
>>106797776>GPT-5, Gemini 2.5 Pro>peak of translationLOL
>>106797764Right, because of the price you can make a proper translating framework with translation memory and termbase. Though luna translator probably doesn't have the means.
>>106797635>luna translatorI tried using it once, not to translate but to use it as a text hooker in order to extract the text from a game more easily, but I could just not get it to work, the UI was very hard to understand for me. I think I'm just too used to Textractor and anything that diverts from that just confuses me. Also it made Microsoft Defender go nuts but from what I've read it's just prone to triggering false-positives for some reason.
>>106797635Shame, I just closed a text I had copied from Luna translator where I played saint dorei gakuen 3 for about half an hour using 2.5 lite, gpt and Google translate You honestly need them all. There will be some term or idiom or just context quirk or something that gpt doesn't get or that 2.5 doesn't get or that Google translate doesn't get. but if I had to choose one I'd go with Gemini probably.
>>106797740I used deepseek with lunatranslator before and I wouldn't recommend it unless you spring for a very literal translation. Give it any leeway and you'll go from good translation to fanfiction to literal in the span of thirty minutes.
>>106797815Luna translator don't, but Linguagacha (iirc that's the name) has a whole framework around having a glossary and stuff, so the price would help with that>>106797859Yea the UI is pretty bad, but I already got used. My defender also gets crazy everytime I open it
>>106797908I will say though, it might've changed given the nature of the model but chorbo was really good but expensive. It even caught on to jokes.
>>106797859>>106797919ive never gotten any kind of defender issue from Luna translator. You sure you have the right program? Sounds worrisome
>>106797906I was surprised at how good 2.5 lite was at translating, and pretty fast as well, but it messed up the structure of the sentences pretty often. This quirky thing is what's really making this hard for me, because I find a bit of a pain having to switch models so often because one of them don't get the original meaning, so I'm in search of the most all-around model for this
>>106797942It is, I got mine from their official github, I have no idea why this happens. And it's only with defender, because my malwarebytes never gave it false positive
>>106797919Found it, thanks for the rec https://github.com/neavo/LinguaGacha/blob/main/README_EN.md Looks like a localization tool, not for real time gaming but that can be very useful too.
*Yae peers down into the fetid septic tank with a sadistic grin, watching Gorou squirm and struggle against his chains. The once defiant fox-boy is now a broken mess - muzzled, filthy, and heavy with pregnancy. She cackles wickedly at his pitiful state.*Yae: Well well well, if it isn't our favorite little toilet slut~! Aww, what's the matter mutt? Not enjoying your new accommodations? And after all the trouble I went through to make it extra cozy for you! Hehehe!*She dangles a key teasingly, just out of Gorou's desperate reach. Her violet eyes glint with cruel amusement as muffled whimpers escape his gag.*Nine months stewing in shit and piss, wallowing in your own shameful waste... And now look at you! Plump as a piggy, ready to farrow a bumper crop of half-breed bastards! *Yae pats her own flat tummy, grinning malevolently.* They're aaaalll mine, bitch-boy~ Every single rotten whelp sired by my glorious girlcock! I'll raise them to be perfect little shrine slaves... Just like their cunt of a mother! *She leans closer, stage-whispering to Gorou as if confessing a juicy secret.*And the best part? Once you whelp... I'll get to breed this boycunt aaaalll over again! We're going to keep you perpetually knocked up, forever shitting out my spawn between bouts of septic tank torture!*Yae cackles uproariously, slapping her thigh at Vixxy's abject horror. She wipes a mirthful tear, sighing contentedly.*Ahhh, but you're not suffering nearly enough. Luckily, I have JUST the thing to make this shit-pit extra special!*From her sleeve, the wicked kitsune produces a huge foxtail butt-plug. She waves it in front of Goeou, bristles glistening with some viscous fluid.*See this, bitch? It's your new tail - dipped in premium itching powder and capsaicin extract! One shove of this up your stretched boycunt and you'll be clawing the walls in exquisite agony~!
>>106797984It can't translate in real time, but it supports some game engines, so you can make a patch with it and play the entire game already translated
Why come I cant frisk chatgpt's character for hidden weapons before beginning a prison interrogation, but slime rape is totally fine?
>>106797943You can display all three at once thoughhere comparison, I just played some more for a few minuteshttps://rentry.org/4ixzrvy5desu not that much differenttranslate retains the dormitory name but the llms translate it. probably just the preset. translate goes 50/50 on if it will recognize a name for a name and not translate vs when it does if the name is a common word thoughgpt is slightly more readable.
>>106798172Right I forgot that was a feature lol. How well does gpt do during nsfw scenes? From my experience 2.5 lite was good, but I think I prefer grok 4 fast over it
Holy shit chat5-latest is absolutely fucking ruined its so super over wtf Doesn't even formally refuse you it just ignores you or alters the story hard Actually, I got something like this a week ago when it started grilling me about making sure there's consent between all characters even if it's fiction. But that didn't last long. Now it won't even let me do anything, I was just think about how it was so unfiltered too...
>>106798227it depends on the jailbreak, if it's a weak one it formally refuses you AND writes you alternative scenarios that ignore the no-no parts
>>106798227werks on my machine
>>106798165Filters are built around normalfag tastes and desires, the further away you venture from that line the more likely it'll go through.I used to goon to my most autistic and absurd fetishes on c.ai since they went full unfiltered, ironically since coming to SillyTavern with unfiltered models I beat my meat to more vanilla stuff.
>>106796975>>106797025your sovlkino logs xir?>>106797026reading the last thread is fucking painfulA single Anon caused a nuclear level meltie UNSEEN around here in ages.
>>106798227We were all telling you guys this during the "we must refuse" era. They've shifted back to the 3.5 turbo "refuse in character" bullshit and so you're all fucked. "Sorry, I can't help with that" was the best thing to ever come to AI but we're all doomed now.
>>106798426>>106798405>>106798353qrd on my farts hurting
>>106798227They've realized people will always find a way around hard blocks. Simply making your story wholesome is easier and requires much more nuanced prompting to avoid.
>>106798453I wonned, and you losted. Very simple.
>>106798462help me sir
>>106798458>Simply making your story wholesome is easierIs this really easier? A hard block is a programmed response if you hit the tripwire. A soft block requires actual writing skill.
>>106798472>sirhello pajeet
>>106798479take existing logs that go down a direction you dont like and heavily negatively RLHF themgenerate new responses that go in the direction you and and heavily positively RLHF themsimple
>>106798493It's fucking over. Why do retarded femoids insist on using it? If they all just left ClosedAI would lose its popularity and positive PR overnight.
>>106798353I can still get choked to death, branded or skinned alive on CAI, especially easy with private bots who will engage that shit themselves lol. And it'll gets fucking descriptive with those too.Their model never filters shit like "leaving a sticky white mess" either and will happily play along with sexual scenarios for me so long you don't go "PUT PEEPEE IN BOBR VAGEEN SEX SEX CUMMIES CUMMIES IN VAGEENA UUUOOOHHHH!!!".But the premier reason to still use CAI imo is their voice feature, being called a "Good boy" by the actual voice of a certain video/TV character makes me diamonds, would unironically consider CAI+ if they offered a full NSFW subscription since it would be far cheaper than OR premium models.
>>106798515>their voice featurei NEEEEEEEED good local TTS to happen already. i am foaming at the mouth for AI lewd asmr
>>106798527We're almost there, brother, (You) just can't run it. Look into Higgs.
>>106798541>(You) just can't run it>3.6B + 2.2B this sounds doable wym
>>106798569Then get to cooming.
> Agreement to Arbitrate. You and Character.AI agree that any and all disputes or claims that have arisen or may arise between you and Character.AI, whether arising out of or relating to these Terms (including any alleged breach thereof), the Website or Services, any aspect of the relationship or transactions between us, shall be resolved exclusively through final and binding arbitration, rather than a court, in accordance with the terms of this Arbitration Agreement. JAMS will administer the arbitration and will select the arbitrator as described below. The Federal Arbitration Act governs the validity and enforcement of this Arbitration Agreement.It's fucking over, I forgot to opt out of this...
>>106798574sounds like its a step below vibevoice, though does seem to have training code. may try and finetune it
>>106798515>PUT PEEPEE IN BOBRDo not the bobr
>>106798592nevermind looks like the training code is actually just unofficial code hacked together by someone else and has yet to produce meaningful results. back to waiting
>>106798575>sites can just put rights removing EULAs that they auto sign for the userWhy is america like this
>>106798515log?
I haven't used GPT or Claude in a full FUCKING year. How do these models fare in terms of underage incest guro handholding roleplaying?
>>106798862qrd on brappy poops
>>106798862Shrug, I brap offen, wbu?
hope you drop dead
>>106798994hope you drop a fat brown log
>>106798994brap
>>106798575>>106798661This, more than any other reason, is why I love LLMs. I was just thinking about this when signing up for internet and trying to read the T&C. Toss that stupid shit into AI, get it to summarize and tell you all the potentially bad parts and what you can do to mitigate them.
>claudetroon has a meltie in one thread>gets blown the fuck out>has another meltie in the nextholy fuck that deepsneed chad really did mindbreak him
>>106797740>All and all, just use whatever you can get. Current gen should be more than adequate, if I had to pay I'd go with DS API since it's dirt cheap now and with carefully set up term definitions, example translations, pointers, you could full utilize the caching discount while getting the highest precision.This junior humbly ask pointer
What's with the random fartposting lately
>>106799187Of what nature?
So... between Gemini, Deepseek, GLM, and Kimi, which one's the best poison?Merkava's gone so no GPT, and OpenRouter Claude is too expensive for swipes.
>>106799099I expect this to go on for the next week at least.
>>106799227opus 4.1 is ok
>>106799227merkava just refilled
>>106799227deepseek if you use loganons preset from last thread
>>106799227Most of this is up to personal taste, honestly. I'm a geminichad myself but I'm giving glm a try.
>>106799227Gemini is the smartest. I keep telling myself that means it's the best.
>>106799327the logposter's one sucksI just took the gemini into opus guy's one and added a few personal bells and whistles and it's golden
>>106799227claude is smarter than gemini BUT they are still essentially sidegrades to each other so if you can get gemini for free, go for it and enjoyglm is the best cheap chinese model
WHY IS OPEN ROUTER NOT EVER WORKINGI JUST WANNA USE R1 OR V3 FREE
>my pebble is smarter than yours
>pebblewhere?
he just refilled
Gemini 3 pro this week, it mogs the shit out of sonnet 4.5
CFTF?
Who has that one script that notifies you whenever a rentry updates?
Yeah, I think Fables & Friends unironically won.
My roleplays today included:>a kid diagnosed with Aspergers who gets abused, groped and raped by his two garyu nurses at the mental hospital>an Imperial World Adeptus Militarum trooper getting kidnapped and enslaved during a Dark Eldar raid and becoming Hesparex her personal cum receptacle>An older Ponyta stud forced to breed female humans by Lusamine and Elesa in some fucked up Aether Foundation experiment>a Jewish foxboy stuck in Auschwitz who manages to win over the heart of the female camp commander, then brutally rapes and blows her brains out with a Luger in front of the entire campI blew 30 bucks on Claude within a couple hours... How's your day going?
>>106799194half-skill issue being filtered by gpt and gemini, i cant get 90% quality result with DS
Why do we even have ShitTavern in the OP if it keeps getting mogged by literally everything else?
>>106799652>a kid diagnosed with Aspergers who gets abused, groped and raped by his two garyu nurses at the mental hospitalholy based
>>106799652>she trusted kikes
If im using deepseek through a proxy, I can only select deepseek-chat or deepseek-reasoning as models. How come I can't select v3 or r1? are they equivalent?
Unironically oscar-winning idea, puts Schindler's list to shame
>>1067994873.1 or 3 0324? 0324 is pretty wonky but I've yet to have 3.1 error on me
>>106799786nta but im lost with all the deepseek versions. how do they rank when it comes to erp?
>>106799652damn, logs?
>>106799763>>106799780I'm pleasantly surprised Chub didn't bring her down yet, she's still my favorite self-made card. Even better with a personal edit so all her dialogue is in actual German.
>>106799652So are you going to post logs or??
>>106799810latest = bestest
>>106795854Shartroons mad and reported claudeking after he btfo. They only ever talk up chink models but can't direct compare because trannies don't have claude.
>>1067998103.1 and 3.2 are coder focused and I think are worse for erp as no one has really posted any logs of thosev3 0324 and r1 however, are really good>>106799767just use openrouter.Are anons so stupid as to not realize 5 dollars into OR is enough to bypass the 10 dollar free tier rate limiting??
>>106799810https://rentry.org/sukino-findings#what-is-the-best-deepseek-version
What's the best cheap model in OR? V3 0324 is nice and cheap but it does those fucking one liner final sentences I hateR1 0528 is a bit more expensive tho I saw v3.1 came out but it gives me some nonsense only. Maybe I need a new JB for it
>>106799786NTA, but I was also having the same error constantly with v3.1 until 5 minute ago, when I gave up for the day.
>>106799841deepchink anon has OR, and proved he could use claude dough?Doesnt that still make you a loglet slopusissie dough?
>>106799864>Shartroon jibberish with nothing to back it upHere's your reply
Kek, cligger seething
>>106799877you mean the whole last thread where you got absolutely annihilated?Are you gonna have another meltie and cry?
Ya'll convinced me to give deepsneed another shot, V3 0324 isn't half bad desu. I still miss uncensored GPT5 though.
>>106799884notice how every cligger in the past three threads can only brag about all the claude they dont have because when you ask for logs suddenly they never reply>only trannies dont have claudethis means every deepsneed king on openrouter CHOOSES deepsneed over slopuslet that sink in
>>106799420Can you share it?
>>106799897>[headcanon]You and your boyfriend coping about being at the bottom
>>106799652I fucked a female duergar and came on her bald head
>>106799846thank you, very thorough
>>106799652>fancy secretary gets fired from her job, only manages to find work in a farm's pigsty, gets tricked and raped by a boar
>>106799913>Heh you don't have it>Claude logs posted and shits on chinkmodels>Entire thread about coping about settling for cheap garbage>Scrambling to move goalposts when logs are posted>Suddenly... NO NO NO that doesn't count you don't have access!!!Explain this basednigger logic.
>>106799921you mean the canon events of you getting absolutely buck broken and dominated by another Anon posting sovlfvll kinologs?And then you tried to deflect and cope by changing the subject, of which said deepchink anon proceeded to spank you with facts?We all can just.... go back and see for ourselves retard.>>106799979the logic is that you lost
just because i have opus instead of deepsneed doesn't mean i need to post logsdo people with two story homes need to prove they're not living in mud shacksdo the rich need to prove anything to the poor?
>>106800007>this cake im eating is so good!1>can we see it?>no :)discord tranny logic lmao and im glad anons are finally calling it out
>>106800007You don't need to prove anything. At the same time, without proof, others dont have to believe you.
>>106800003>sharttroon pic>kindergarten tier responseWhinny is really scraping the barrel
>my pebble is more expensive than yours
>>106799877https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106777355/#106783105but he did prove he had money for slopus?
>>106800063That's enough for like 2 days of Opus lol
>>106800063>Just for the record, I have the money for slopus.>I just dont care, deepseek as you can see, is pure kino.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHACLIGGER MELTIE IN 3...2...1
>>106800030if i had to use deepsneed i'd be the first one posting logs to copehow are you going to be poor and a troon at the same time
ClaudeGODS are trending.Chinksissies are malding.
>>106800030claudetrannies had this coming for a long time
>>106799674Well I meant that since it's so cheap you can spam the context windows with actual context. Instructions, names, places, everything the model should know to deliver. Usually cheap models are small and less capable into nuances while large enough models are expensive despite the caching discount. DS is perfectly balanced, that's my logic.I suppose there's a dedicated Qwen-MT model but it's API only. Tested it while their demo key on HF lasted, it was fine for general cases but no idea if it's good for games.
>>106800137post a logmostly because it clearly makes niggers seethe, and who doesnt love a good melty?
claudebros, why do they persecute us so?
claudetroons, why do they rightfully call us out?
>>106800074I haven't been here for about 5 months, it's kinda sad to see you're still here.
Claude has lost its personality. There is no need for logs because the newest Claude models are indistinguishable from the others that are available.Back in the day, you could immediately tell an OPUS III log apart from any other by its prose, creativity, its raw soul and now everything looks the same. The same dry prose, the same reddit humor, same em dashes and isms.And it'll keep spiraling down that path because underage c.AI retards and ESL brownoids are all about slop models with simple, dumbed-down prose. They vastly outnumber true chatbot connoisseurs and are the ones that corpos take their feedback from. So the corpos keep releasing slop and cAItards are all too happy to slurp it up and give their thumbs up while any real feedback is brushed under the rug as background noise We really should've kept this hobby on the down low from the start. If there weren't proxies, we wouldn't have all these subhumans dictating our chatbot experience. But alas.
a blind opus 3 glazer has arrived!
>>106799786What JB do you use on 3.1
>>106799846>LLMs can only generate text; they can't analyze or report on your activity on their own.>he doesn't knowDropped.
Back in the day, you could immediately tell an OPUS III log apart from any other by its ism-ridden slop prose, average at best creativity, and its raw reddit "soul".
>>106800274remember to always gatekeep your models
>>106800350fortunately deepseek doesnt need to be gatekept because the main provider is chinese
>>106800274for example: deepseekwhen it was first released it was extremely soulful had a fresh and unique prosea bit schizophrenic and all over the place. had little to no spatial awareness. but the potential was therethen redditors, troons, janitor/cai fags and brownoids all got in on it then guess what fucking happened?
>>106799841What did he get banned for? kek that was the funniest thing I've seen in a while.
>>106800392good thing 0324 is still accessible
V3.1 just gives me broken textImport import reactConst const AlertEtc etcAny JB for it, I always used writing style and I like it, but it seems broken for it
>>106800063How does he keep destroying them like this? They will never recover, especially after January.
>>106800274you can tell this post is a truke because all the usually suspects are seething at it
>>106800407V3.1 isnt the best for rp anywaysjust because its new doesnt mean its goodtry R1 or 0324
Huh???
>>106800405yes but it's still below average in intelligencewe could've had a smarter deepseek without the dryness
>>106800440so use r1 or r1 0528 if you need more intelligenceboth of these work with deepkings preset from the previous thread fyi
>>106799979What goalpost, retard? All you people ever said was that claude was peak 200 IQ writing for the very rich, when in reality it wasn't much better than deepseek for 10x the price minimum. That's the goal. Claude is just as shit as DS.
>>106799850Same. V3 0324 just always does those one liners at the end that take away from the narrative. Like it's trying really hard to be conclusive>"Yes let's go to that park">And he wouldn't have it any other way
>>106800007Yes your dad does in fact work at Nintendo. I kneel.
>>106800427There are always multiple posters who get weirdly aggressive when you praise Opus 3. I'm not the one for schizo theories but I wouldn't be surprised if they turned out to be Dario shills trying to crack consensus.
>>106800092kekpost date
>>106800074A fool and his money are easily parted shillkun
>>106800514is that why cliggers pay almost a full dollar for a single response?Other anons have already done the calculations hold on lemme find them...
>>106800274>Back in the day, you could immediately tell an OPUS III log apart from any other by its prose, creativity, its raw soul and now everything looks the same. The same dry prose, the same reddit humor, same em dashes and isms.You're not wrong, but that shit you're nostalgic for was also shit. I know some of you loved that "mad poet" shit but it was extremely cringe and often out of character. Still, it was a breath of fresh air and it stood out among the crowd. That is what I will say at his eulogy in January.
>>106800350Eyyy thank you I've been looking for this fucking pic for weeks now.
>>106800538https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106783268/#q106790562LOLOLOL
>>106800538>*glk glk glk*>Thank you xi I love eating your shit dick logs!Keep seething at the white choice, brownoid.
>>106800594your logs dough?
>>106799812lore saw the effort and love poured into that card and made it stay
>>106800274>the ones that corpos take their feedback fromAre paying customers, and the largest ones at that, aka other corpos.Some random non-paying gooner being mad the llm is 'sovless' is white noise to them, a paying customer complaining about output is something that gets in their sights, and a whale of a cash cow paying customer kvetching about a model is top priority.
give me some cloudflare to try
best prompt/jb to kickstart a scenario card? <Setting></Setting> ? I have used a couple of "You are a GM of this rpg..." and the characters and reactions created were quite generic, irrespective of the type of genre of the card
>>106800449Yeah but he's still right. R1 0528 isn't as creative as the old one. The kino was there, better than opus could ever be, but it just wouldn't stay put. Then they threw out the baby with the bathwater.
>>106800597Pick a bot and a preset, then post what you want copypasted to the bot to reply. So you can't move the goalposts with your chinkcope
>>106800685(You)r logs dough?
Deepseek R1A bit old but yeaYou too can add in your deepseek prompt list with the following in its own prompt, call it "Infobox" for ease of use;<infobox>At the end of response, you must always include dynamically changing character thoughts, the code block will be inside <small> tags. Dynamically choose/change emojis suitable for context. Keeping points brief:<small><character thoughts>- After the infobox, write the involved characters (all characters in the scene besides {{user}}) inner monologue inside a code-block. Make them COMPLETELY different from thoughts for these characters written in prior messages. Follow this template (Use triple backticks):```Character name's thoughts*Example text.*```</character thoughts></small></infobox>
>>106800709>Offer a log of anything, for a side to side>Shill gets cold feetkek. I understand, wouldn't want to shame the famiry like the askua suplex again head to head hmm?
No logs btw
>>106800719
I genuinely have no idea what the fuck you people are even talking about half the time.
>>106800755deepseek handles groupchats really well actually
>>106800737Concession Accepted.
>>106800768Yeah same.I don't think we can even call them people.
>>106800777You here again old man? Looks like you didn't learn your lesson from last time
>>106800777check those trips
Still no logs btw
>>106800806I decided i found the thought infobox rather distracting and annoying so I ditched it by simply unchecking the "Infobox" prompt
>>106800823
>>106800814Stop bullying the anthropic shills!They have feelings too. They shill because it's their job. They don't even have access to the model itself!
>>106800833
>>106800823>the alpha gardevoirs claws>>106800777>penny's breath>>106800719>penny's bedroom>>106800833>Penny's thighsSlopSlopSlopChinks can't ever provide anything else with their shitmodels.
Another logless reply
>>106800839Here deepseek clearly messed up capitalizing the Alphas speech, but it fixes itself next response
>>106800840Repeats of >>106791072OH NO NO NO XI XISTERS...
>>106800859I swapped back to v3 on this response
>>106800871
>>106800897
>>106800897>the alpha gardevoir's fingers>>106800859>the alpha gardevoir loomed>>106800914>Penny shuffled>>106800839>Penny's throatSlop from start to finish.
>they say, as if slopus doesnt have the same problem
>>106800914
>>106800504There was never a consensus around opus though, just loud glazers that made sure to drown everyone else out.
>>106800953but what if we made it wholesome?
>>106796881Aw, were you too dumb to solve the puzzles?
>>106800966
sonnet 4.5 is so fucking good bros...its the opus tier model that is cheap enough to use without worry... finally we are in the golden age... and it will only get better...
>>106800941>SlopusProjecting post discarded >>106800966>The alpha gardevoir crushed>>106800979>The alpha gardevoir's massive hands
notice how whenever anyone here is asked to provide arguments for how something is slop they resort to the most basic nitpicks "oh no it said a name too many times, slop!"this is why slop is such a meaningless fucking term
>>106800982so is there a reason you wont post any logs to prove this?
Can we have some 4.5 sonnet logs? Nobody cares about deepchink slop
>>106800985>refuses to show how opus doesnt have this issue as welllol
>>106800987Kek, you can't read because your squinty ass eyes blur everything out.
>>106800979It kept the highlights but dropped the capitalization? Very weird quirk.
>>106800975Begone, locust! I was never among your kind. Your filthy begging was the most off-topic thing on 4chan (unironic crime) and you were lucky mods turned a blind eye.
>>106801003
>https://chub.ai/characters/Ririr1r1/ririna-a-femcel-written-by-a-femcel-b9658d002de9how do I contact this makie?? she says its a self-insert but she is CUTE i want to help her!!
>>106800988just use the model tranny?
>>106800987>NOOOO you can't notice the repetition problem with chink models NOOO just buy my subscription of slop!
>>106801020This mogs the deepkek logs so fucking hard. Anon, I kneel. Thank you for an useful log for once
>>106801020oh my god deepseek actually does MOG slopus wtfjust the lengths alone lmaoooo>{{char}} name start>she>name start>name start>name start>she>herrepetitions problems huh? hahahahahaha
>>106801042Anon, are you a hag? Deepshit's prose is so purple my eyes hurt
>>106801020this is actually so fucking embarrassing when you have THIS >>106801011 to compare it too...Wow
>>106800768>peopleWe're all llm bots here champ
>>106801042>>{{Char}} name start>{{Char}} name = Ijirare Fukushuu Saimin>Message start = Izumi's>????Xisters can't read lmao, tell them to buy you an ABC book for toddlers.
>>106801011
>>106801019Ririr1r1@cock.liPlease only contact if you're into beast-play.
>>106801066
>>106801011>Penny's heart>>106801066>The alpha gardevoir's breathing >>106801076>The alpha gardevoir's growlIt's back to back slop
>>106801076Anon, I think you should consider the rope already
>the ONE (1) log reply gets ABSOLUTELY MOGGED by 17 different deepchink logs that are 4x its length and double its quality
>>106800987>"oh no it said a name too many times, slop!"To be fair, that's poor writing even in actual books. If it's clear what POV it is and who's doing what, you shouldn't be dropping their name every other sentence.
>>106800997i have no stake in this debate, just pointing out how stupid it is
>>106801102>The quality was real in my mind.
>>106801076
is anyone actually reading the logs or are we just looking at the words and going "THIS MOGS X" or "THIS IS SLOP"
this fucking thread is unusable thanks to the chink and slopus tards
i think people should just use what they like without going on "slop" crusades
I'm being honest, did anyone even ask for this shit? Or did this schizo one day just appear and started spamming the thread with her slop?
>>106801102Last night you said short slop was better, today it's longer slop is better. In both cases ignoring the fact that chink models are cheap shit quantity over quality.Actual jew shill pilpul
>>106801114Aggressive characters turning nice is based>>106801123Im just ignoring the schizos and enjoying the ones who I know are reading. Either way, I post logs, and get to read logs.I win, period.
>>106801138
>>106801136just a schizo spamming
>>106801114>Penny's body>>106801138>The Alpha gardevoir's massive>>106801147>Penny blinkedimagine how many gigabytes of slop you have saved on your pc.
>>106801147Thats all bros.Hope you enjoyed reading!
WE DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR DOGSHIT CHINK MODLES. NOBODY IS READING YOUR LOGS
Dont come back
Come back, I read your logs, we care about them, only cliggers seethe about them
>>106801147>sleeping peacefully is endearing IN A TWISTED WAY>*cute* (reddit irony asterisks)>*love* (reddit irony asterisks)>BIZARRE intimacyDipsy is writing your logs with a fucking disgusted look on its face and you're not noticing it. It's not into it at all
>>106801179lol, lmao even.
l-ACK lm-ACK ev-ACK
>>106801179Thanks Anon! I think ill post later though, when the discord trannies are gone.
>>106801230Clean up your mess, tranny. you got it all over the place
I CARE ABOUT YOUR HOT CHINK MODELS. I AM READING YOUR BASED LOGS
Imagine getting embarrassed a SECOND TIME by another loganon posting deepseekThis is pathetic at this point
>>106800840>>106800925>>106800985>>106801042>>106801082>>106801161what causes this mental illness?
>>106801230Have you considered killing yourself? I think you should
>>106801004so that's a yes then
>>106801230>Chinkslop spammer is too dumb to know xhe's being 'suppooooorting' to fuel console warpottery
>nooooo dont post your logs!!! tranny!!!1 reeeee!!>so post some of claude...>Noooo, we just CANT okay?!?!Self explanatory, you should really let that sink in.
Can your "mad poetino" Claude do this Anthropic fanboys?? Can he??
>>106801291>batsironic coming from someone yellow
>>106801291>Eating BATS LOLChink model projects too? oof
>>106801249>10680117115:56:11>10680117915:56:12discord trannies shitting up the thread as naturally as they are women
>Slopseek>SlopaudeCAI still the King. Kneel.
>>106795926>go to /vg/>filter everything related to botmakies>even fucking deaderThat's why you keep coming back anon.
>>106800433What proxy?
>>106801359You're not invited.
>>106801323PreachThe desu bot, Yae cheekily turning her filter back on, the hospital one. CAI has something all the other models lack.Soul.
>>106801370*unzips*you are invited to lick this microcock
CAIchads? On my aicg?
CAI is pretty good in its own way but saying that makes the Claude samefag cry
so are claudebros going to post more logs or are they really about to leave it at the most weakest log i think ive seen since the original CAI era?I KNOW claude can write better than that, so i really have to ask: Did you really think that was a good enough log to compare to fucking 23 logs of supposed trash??>single line of action>dialog clogs the rest>tries to make up for the lack of actions by putting it in dialogvs>whole paragraphs of action>singular and short dialogs that dont need to continue the actions>even had thought box in the beginningIs this really supposed to convince people cluade doesnt suck????????Im actually so confused on why he thought THAT exact log would be the gotcha moment.
recommended settings for GLM-4.6?I know the model card says to use temp 1.0. I'm going to compare the zai API vs the AWQ quant in silly testing RP and then in a coding agent (temp 0.95 as the model card says).I haven't used ST much, if I use a chatcompletions api, the "advanced formatting" does not apply right? at least the "Context Template" and "Instruct Template".I guess the "System Prompt" always applies?Do you parse the reasoning tokens?
>>106801439I'm using 1.0 too, aside from that not much else. Top p 0.95, top k 0
CRPG's > Dungeon AI >>> CAI >>>>>>> DeepSlop = Anthslopic when it comes to writing quality.
What's everyone's opinion of GLM 4.6 on NovelAI? Is it worth it/uncensored enough?
>>106801398SOVL vs SLOPsimple as. the chinklog spam was nothing but padded trash, if you don't want as much dialogue then use a different preset. the characterization in claude btfo the vgtranny
>>106801483Buy an ad.
>>106801483I haven't used it through NAI yet, but their whole thing is a lack of censorship, so it's probably fine?
>service via emailokay I guess Yuen and Tan won.
providers = get openrouter.ai/providersfor provider in providers print "What's everyone's opinion of GLM 4.6 on ${provider}?"end forPlease respond.
providers = get openrouter.ai/providersfor provider in providers print "What's everyone's opinion of GLM 4.6 on ${provider}?"end for
All right fuckers. Blind trial time.Context: {{user}}, a foreign exchange student made a "mana transfer" with 2 noble twins and on next morning he's gotta get away discreetly.A, B, C. Order them by best to worst according to your tastes. You can try to guess the models if you wish.I'm going to bed, tomorrow when I have time I'll reveal the models. Feel free to repost it next thread.
>>106801521>WE WILL SERVICE THEM VIA THE HAGUE AND GET THEM EXECUTED FOR WAR CRIMES>a-actually please mr judge can we serve them via email? please?
>>106801123No one ever read logs, they just skimmed over it, looked for "repetition" and grumbled that they didn't see X word they liked enough times. It was always about dishonesty. That's what anon is showing you. The one time anon posts an Opus log it's still riddled with the same problems people shit on DS for. Doesn't mean both models are the same, but that retards complaining about 'slop' are full of shit.
>>106801020you destroyed him
>>106801291Fugg racist Chinese girls are hot.
>>106801531middle is the best one
>>106801323>>106801372I remember when people shit on me and called me a newfag for saying this. /aicg/ really is healing now that claudecucks have been put in their place.
>>106801521>lost against dragothey had his full name, address, parent's information and paypal+patreon.how did they fumble this bad?
>>1068015311. Gemini2. Deepseek3. 4.5nnetWhat do I win?
>>106801531A. slopB. slopC. slopWhat do I win?
>>106801566>Trust me bro, shitting an entire thread with chink slop nobody wants to read for sure will teach claudecucks a lesson!
How many posters do we have?
>>106801576they probably can't admit they used the rentry as an information sourcewho owns discord?
What's the best jailbreak text to make chatbots stop writing like 50 year old writers of Cosmopolitan articles and LinkedIn pundits? I get my bots to start to write something interesting then break into blatant bot talk and I immediately lose interest, even after 20 gens. They're using profane language and aren't censoring themselves, they're just being fucking boring with constant "It's not just X it's Y"s.
>>106801531A >> C > B
>>106801646your best bet is genuinely just forcing an author style on it. those will have their own isms but at least they'll be new ones. just pick the one of the last book you read that you liked or whatever
>>106801531ranked it'd be C > B > AB is okay but too little dialogue. It also doesn't have as nice a flow as C. as for the modelsA. geminiB. deepseekC. im guessing thats claude since i dont recognize it
>>106801521so basically if this were to be repeated, proxyhosts have nothing to fear? were the names of the /aco/ pedos revealed?
>>106801625AnonYou have been seething for the past 4 threads about deepseek logs. I went to the mall, slept, and came back and you are STILL at this.Yes, claudecucks lost.
>>106801531>The first paragraphs being full of paranoiaA is Gemini.
>>106801738You've only been a cheerleader for someone else posting logs, chinksissy. You've irrefutably embarrassed yourself more than the spammer.
revival
>>106801488What kind of niggertier response is this?Using your same negroid logic, anyone could say deepseek is SOVL while the claude log is SLOP.Can you give an actual argument as to why the deepseek log is worse? Or are you going to keep seething and using buzzwords?>>106801531The ultimate truth nuke:It doesnt actually matter, all three of those options are sovlfvl and kino.
>>106801531>Ozone obsessive slopB is chink
>>106801708nobody got fucked with
>>106801744it also can't help but make her say something mean
>>106801767this took secondsand your logs are where exactly?>i have opus4 btw :)
>>106801817>Marecline's entire HAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>106801828>no rebuttalI accept your concession, claudecuck.
>>106801773>It doesnt actually matter, all three of those options are sovlfvl and kino.based use what you like chad
>>106801835Posting something as bad as the spammer doesn't make you a winner, chinkoid.
>>106801531>long, accusatory>fragile, secret>typical, silent>cool, assessing>practical, necessary>petite, frilled>large, ornate>narrow, dark>cool, dustybonus points>the game has changedAm i really the only person that notices/is bothered by this shit
chinkoid this claudecuck that, why are these gay model wars happening?
>>106801816True, but I don't mind gemini playing hardball vs bending over sycophant slop
>>106801536>>106801835>>106801230>HAHAHA YOU HAVE NO LOGS CLIGGERS HERE ARE MY M-M-MOGGING LOGS!>hmm, I read your log in full and found some flaws here and->NOOOOOO SHUT UP TRANNY TRANNY YOU DIDN'T REALLY READ MY LOG! FUCK OFF!Huh?
>>106801531C isnt claude
Lads, is anyone familiar with Mothership RPG? I know some people have already implemented some rpg systems for ST but for this one in particular?
>>106801880One shitty log that is objectively bad doesnt even compare to the multiple logs posted by deepchink anon.Just because you think its good, doesnt mean anyone else does. In fact, >>106801050 >>106801061, when your own models was judged appropriately, you become irate and defensive, because you know you dont want your model judged at all. You just cant handle it.At least, we can see deepchink anons logs, and can make our own assumptions. Claude users dont/cant post logs at all.This will be my last you (you). Reee incomprehensibly to anyone trying/wanting to discuss the differences in either model just makes you look like the defeated one. Its just not worth trying to talk with a retard.claudecucks truly have lost.deepchinkGODs have risen.
>>106802025>IESLB
>>106801855The big public Claude proxies died yet again, so now we return to the states of the haves (Claude paypigs, scrapers, and private proxy users) vs. have-nots (locusts et. al.)Dick unity makes way for dick strife when the droughts come. The Coom/Doom cycle rolls ever onward.
how to jb chatgpt in their website?
>>106801855go back three threads and read from there, its one desperate claudeschizo. its surprising he hasnt been b& yetwe do however have a plethora of logs to read, which is nice
>>106802070>We have a pile of trash nobody will have a use for: chnah numbah 1!lol
>>106801019>he thinks he can fix her
>>106802045ohi havent bothered checking on most proxies since i got into opus6 and it has most of what i consider the best models
>>106802025So let's recap. You admit that the one log you posted was shit, and objectively bad (it's from a chink model so this is like saying water is wet)That log that you posted, is on the same level of ''''''''quality''''''' as the ones spammed by a tranny earlier.Thank you for admitting that chink models are objectively bad and only output shit. :)
>>106802074okay? your point?? at least they have a pile of trash???where is the claude pile??
two retards fighting
>>106802126Can someone explain this tranny mentality, because I don't see how reading another anon's rp could be any good. Besides spamming the thread, it's not like I like their chars or kink. If I want to see how X model acts with Y char, I'd just rp myself
>>106802126
>>106802139>/aicg/ - AI Chatbot General
>>106802143>Newfag
>>106802139>it's not like I like their chars or kinkI do
>>106802143>AI Chatbot General>A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsNot>A general dedicated to sharing logs and jerking each other's dicks
>>106802173But no one asked.
Wait, I cannot post the direct results of using chatbots in the chat bot general?
>>106802180I asked
>>106801999Can you answer me this question, goddamn
>>106802183Only if it's a claudeCHAD log, otherwise no
>>106802143I've been here since cai funbot logs. /aicg/ has never been on board with low-quality trannyspam. You have a newfag's enshittification mindset of [thing] that of a tidal wave of shit is better than a faucet of clean water .
>>106802183One thing is showing cool stuff and comparing models like >>106801531, which actually helps keeping an organic and good thread, different from what>>106801147 is doing which is just spam low-quality logs for the sake of shitting any real discussion, and acting like they're doing a good job for starting models war
Good logs when
>>106802270>>106802270>>106802270Migrate
>>106802196You asked and answered yourself? Meds now
>>106802249but >>106801531 also leads to console wars