>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. 1.4V or 1.45V CPU VR voltage limit recommended.

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

Bros Can i make 9070xt somehow work on 650w if i undervolt? I really don't want to buy a new psu as well.

>>106797587
Nobody has a case like that any more

>>106797652
It should be manageable.
A 250~280W power limit + a stable OC & undervolt will get you most of the card's performance.

>>106797652
Unless your PSU is house fire tier you will be fine.
What is rest of your system?

>>106797665
Okay, but it won't explode before i actually get to undervolting, right?

>>106797652
There are models that only use two 8-pin instead of 3 or 12vhpwr

>>106797668
5800x3d, 32gb, 2 nvme. I have Evga, but i am not quite sure if it's gold or platinum now.

is it viable to build a mini pc? I know about normal pc's but not mini pc's.
I just want one for emulating older games (up to ps3 era) and it shouldn't be too expensive

>>106797671
Just set a power limit on Andrenaline before you run GPU-heavy workloads.
It depends on the quality of your PSU, some high end 650W PSUs can handle a 4090.

Man, the top of the mid tier GPUs, or supposedly so, both the 9060XT and the 5060Ti are bad, because there are already quite a few games that don't run at 60fps with 2nd highest details at 1080p.

>>106797682
There should be no problem.
You can still UV or even underclock if you want to.
Out of the box settings are often push the hardware for no or little benefit.
You could lower the power draw by around 30% and depending on the game lose 5-10% of the performance.

>>106797714
Anon, GPUs you mentioned are low end.
Don't get confused by price or the name.

>>106797715
Yeah, that's fine for me. I only have 2k monitor anyway and i don't put games on ultra settings.

>>106797723
Yeah, right, and what's the 5050?

>>106797744
Laptop GPU repurposed for Desktop because the binning is so bad it can't fit the tdp for mobile.

>>106797744
Both AMD and NVIDIA want to get away with providing the least possible generational gain for those $300~400 cards.
Neither of them wants gamers to hold on to their video cards for over 4~5 years.

>what's the 5050?
It's mostly for OEMs to fool parents and children who don't know how to shop for a decent card.

>>106797744
5050 is for oems or people making media boxes?
5060 is low tier for 300$

5070 is mid tier for 600$

5070 ti is high end at 800$

5090 is you want best of the best tier

I think I will take the 519 bucks deal, still somewhat hesitant, cause NEET, hehe.

But across all various reviews I have noticed that the REAL power draw with a RX9070 system is lower than the RTX5070.
Sure, you can have some nice numbers with some software tool displaying some low numbers with the 5070, but I trust a ammeter directly on socket outlet more.
316 Watts total system power draw vs 357 Watts and more with the 5070.

https://www.pcmasters.de/testbericht/133714565-sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-pulse-test-review.html#page-9

The only thing I will miss is Raytracing performance. DLSS won't be missed because I am using a FHD monitor.

>>106797865
I never trust sensors because software polling causes sleep issues. It's why everyone was like Ryzen guzzles power at idle because they always have afterburner or hwinfo64 open 24/7 that's polling the sensors every second.

>>106797865
DLSS is used as a means to have anti aliasing in modern games and dlss is better quality than fsr + wider support.

nvidia also has better productivity features, say you want to make ai porn or use llm's 5070 > 9070
both work but given you focus on power draw I dont even know what you're actual priorities are

>>106797913
You sound like a jit

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NVIDIA WON
AMD WON
INTEL WON
we lost

Whats literally the most bang for my buck gpu out there for 1440p
a 9060xt?

Need suggestions on which brand or what to use for Wifi6 (i guess PCIe is always better) cause unfortunately im unable to use the ethernet cable for house works.

>>106797941
9070xt or 5070ti depending on prices in your region

>>106797941
5070
also owning an oled monitor over lcd

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Day 40 FAFO'ing with G80SD - The Finale

>I thought I had a longer return window than was actually real (I did not read the fine print) (store scammed me)
>Could not return to store after talking with them
>Sold it privately

>>106797953
I guess you really must've hated the matte finish

Oh well the tandem oleds are out so you can buy a glossy one

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>>106797941
A used 3080/Ti 12GB for under $400 total would be the better value for money.
9060 XT is closer to the 3070/Ti in raster performance.

>>106797881
Except Ryzen has high idle power draw due to chiplet design.
IO die power consumption goes up significantly once you overclock your RAM and set high VSOC.
And by high idle power draw I mean ~20W.
Setting polling rate for hwinfo even to 20seconds or not using it won't change anything.

>>106797963
5070 still gives you better energy efficiency + 4x frame gen

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ryzen 4070 when bros ?

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>>106797976
shut up bot , literally telling people to buy the shittiest card available just because his retarded mind decided to buy it

>>106797983
and its shittiest because... poor perf per dollar? Poor featureset? Poor energy efficiency?

>>106797951
12gb card for 1440p is not a great futureproof buy...maybe the 18gb super when released.

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>>106797950
about 680 for 9070xt about 820 for a similar model of 5070 TI
While a 9060xt would be 340
Im just wondering if the jump in performance justifies the 2x price (and 2x +200 on the 5070TI) when i know for a fact i shall not be doing anything other than play games at 1440p

>>106797951
I got a decent 1440p IPS monitor as a gift not long ago, im not buying an oled screen anytime soon

>>106797963
im sticking to a brand new card, it wouldnt be easy to get a reputable 2nd hand card in here, its a very small market

Thanks for the answers

>>106797953
Told you to return it earlier...
Are there no 32" 4K OLED monitors worth recommending based on your research?

>>106797993
in that case the 9070xt would be the best frame per $

>>106797975
How well does Arrow Lake do?

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>>106798047

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>>106797959
matte finish is fine and positive in some regards, less fringing eye strain etc, easier to clean, if you get a droplet of liquid on glossy it instantly sticks out and needs to be removed due to reflecting light
but does not give optimal quality no

>Oh well the tandem oleds are out so you can buy a glossy one
no 4k ones out, only 1440p
the trueglossy ones feels like they would just be a worse qdoled equivalent at this point
if they drop 4k tandem + trueglossy it would be a bump in black levels, color volume and brightness so then maybe cool
but at this point I don't see why you wouldn't just get a TV instead maybe idk

>>106798027
>Told you to return it earlier...
yeah but It was a shorter return window than I even thought , like literally scam, anyway policy change and stuff
last monitor I had it for even longer until returning

>Are there no 32" 4K OLED monitors worth recommending based on your research?
Asus, LG, Samsung (on big sale and avoid tizen os + remove matte finish with the peel + avoid your controller knob breaking due to bad qc), Alienware, Gigabyte????? I think, Sony, MSI absolute last resort 24hour pixel refresh

Avoid Philips, AOC, HP/Omen, MSI (honorary king of the shit list)

If you are a rich fag and wanna pay the cost just buy Asus to get most settings and avoid problems they have both the new trueblack 32" and still the pg32ucdm/z/r
And if you want ultrawide LG has the 45" which is the best

I mean I have not checked out every single one if they some how have a forced refresh it will be a buggy mess and annoy you and they would get demoted instantly

there are plenty good ones but they all cost more too, the other ones were interesting because they were alot cheaper, that's why I tried them out, too bad their Firmwares all suck ass so what you gonna do

>>106798128
>bump in black levels
doesnt the qd oled have perfect blacks?
>color volume
tandem oleds cant compete on qd oled with that, the white sub pixel helps boosting overall brightness I guess. Maybe less automatic dimming and such

see >>106797700

>>106797913
I have 0 productivity usage.
I will not make AI porn, I don't know what a private person could use LLM for.

GPU is only there for gayming.

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AMD refused to try this gen

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>>106798154
>doesnt the qd oled have perfect blacks?
in dark yes
but even woled with mla has more raised blacks with ambient light compared to tandem oled with no mla and stuff
so tandem oled has even better contrast in normal lighting conditions compared to the woleds monitors right now

>tandem oleds cant compete on qd oled with that,
yes but it's a giant increase to normal woled and it will help monitors too

>>106798180
But you aren't even getting the best gaming then you'd need a 5090 for that

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>>106798187
They really did. They failed to try the one gen they actually could have potentially won at the high end for gaming. the 9070xt beats the 5080 in some titles thanks to the disappointing performance of Blackwell and AMD's more efficient drivers.

If they doubled the die area of something like a 9070xt to close to the size of the 5090, I have no doubts that it would have beaten it handily, though it probably would have required a 1500w PSU since Blackwell is much more efficient than RDNA 4.

Pic mostly unrelated.

>>106798187
They did the same with GCN 4.0 aka Polaris and it's their most legendary generation since HD 5000

>>106798253
an ATI radeon 5770 (I know they were owned by AMD already) was the first card I ever bought for my first build and it cost me $100 newand could almost max out crysis 2, which came out around the same time. Crazy value for the time.

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>>106798187
5080 oc is slower than 7900xtx reference

>>106798312
Yo this chart here's gonna sell so many 7900XTX graphics cards

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>>106797941
5070, much better price to performance than both the 60ti and 70. 12gb isn't great but at the very least you're good until games start being built around the next playstation.
Actually think the 70 might be the best price to performance for a midrange card in a while. MFG does have value, very easy to hit 240fps even at 1440p.
70ti is easier to suggest if you think you're going to 4k in the near future. For futureproof, 5090, anything else is poorfag cope

>>106798312
I feel so bad for the 7900XTX. I have a 6800m so I get how it feels to have a high end RDNA2/3 GPU that could otherwise continue to work fine for years but just doesn't get support for modern features for basically no reason.

>>106798187
AMD only made 2 GPUs this gen?

>>106798320
it was so powerful that amd discontinued it. a oc 7900xtx would be on par with 4090 if you dont care about power limits.

>>106797587
What case? I want it.

>>106798332
Yeah, which probably isn't the worst strategy for them. When you're such an underdog with few resources compared to your competition, you can't afford to compete across the entire stack of products. You need to pick a weakpoint in Nvidia's lineup and exploit it as hard as you can. Now, I don't think AMD exploited it as hard as they could, but that was what they tried to do and I agree with that strategy, personally.

I feel sick because I sit too close to my 27 inches monitor. I think. Are fixed vesa mount good enough or should I invest in a vesa arm mount?

Are 27inch 2160p monitors no longer laggy? My old BenQ PD series had really horrid input lag that made even dragging a mouse around to be annoying.

>>106798326
Rdna2 was defined before rtx2000 released so they were blindsided by Nvidia
Rdna3 development started after rtx2000 was released so that's kind of why it was so similar to Nvidia ampere but amd's mistake was that they didn't go hard enough on making an ML upscaler

>>106798187
Why 5070Ti is "High-end" while 9070XT is "Mid-range"? They're essentially the same tier cards.
You should probably start "High-end" from 5080.

>>106797587
Is the new egg sale that starts tomorrow a real sale or another bait for retards sale?

>>106798253
Here's hoping they keep the 9070/9070xt around for a while and make it a value $280 option a couple years from now. That shit is built to be cheap to produce unlike the 5070ti and 5080

>>106798378
>That shit is built to be cheap to produce
Why the hell does the 9070 cost more than a 5070 then?

>>106797289
>Also Arctic is often selling refurb/B-grade Liquid freezer IIIs for like 30€ here
Damn euranon that must be nice they're like 3-4x that here. Must be le tariffs

>>106798355
considering there are plenty gaymer 160zh 4k IPS ones like that I would assume they have the same input lag as all other gaymer monitrs

>>106798378
How is it built cheaper to produce than a 5070ti? They have a die that's almost the same size and require similar amounts of cooling. I guess Nvidia's reference design is especially expensive to produce, but that's about it. The 9070xt even uses a more expensive node from TSMC.

>>106798326
>>106798361
what features are missing for RDNA3 rn?

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heres the results of my in depth testing of qd oled (G80SD) vs VA panel black levels
the phone camera cant match what the eyes see even with reduced sensitivity so just assume the panels are perceived darker
interestingly the qd oled doesnt actually have elevated blacks the reviews mention unless you blast it with a camera flash

>>106798366
I agree with you wikipedia lists it that way for some reason

>>106798398
>interestingly the qd oled doesnt actually have elevated blacks the reviews mention unless you blast it with a camera flash
I've been saying this since I saw qdoleds in store demos the first time
the raised black magenta tint meme is way overblown, sure it exists, but cmon now
is woled better? yes sure
way more important issues to tackle before you get to this as a major downside

>>106798397
namely FSR4, I've hacked it to work with Optiscaler of course, but an official INT8 version would go a long way, especially for online games. RDNA3 isn't the best at ML either, I think the 9070xt has like 3-4x the TOPs so it's kind of lacking compared to GPUs with a modern feature set but that's more a hardware thing than a software one.

Do I really gotta spend $1000 on a GPU

>>106798396
9070 has relatively low tdp and requires dated gddr6 16gbit 20gbps chips
The only cost driver is the N4 node but that will start getting discounted over time and also be comparatively cheap next to by-then leading edge nodes like N2, 14A etc.

>>106798414
any impact on video/image gen?

>>106798420
I guess the memory thing is true, though between the similar die size and more expensive node, it can't be too dissimilar. You could be right, though.
>>106798424
the INT8 version (which is a beta fwiw) doesn't appear to have quite the same quality or performance as the FP8 FSR4, though it's good enough to where AMD should absolutely release it officially. I'd love to see these cards get the support they deserve.

>>106798416
For 1080p and 1440p you spend $500-$550
4k you spend $750
5080 is probably the worst "high end" card of recent times.

>>106798424
zero impact

>>106798414
its better than native thats all that matters

>>106798452
For 1080p you spend $500-$550 + $200 and grab both a GPU and a basic 27 inch 1440p high refreshrate IPS monitor from MSI, Samsung, AOC, etc.
Unironically 1440p DLSS looks and runs better than 1080p native. I don't think the 5060 Ti and 5070 are good enough for native 1080p in the most demanding UE5 sloppa without nuking your settings to potato quality.

>>106798459
right but my point is that RDNA3 can't do that without user hacks and programs that can get you banned from online games. FSR3 DOES NOT look better than native and that's all RDNA3 can do natively right now, which is a crying shame when they have the software right there to make it way better.

>>106798334
Thermaltake HAF I guess

>>106798503
my mom got me one of these for christmas one year, I think my brother still has it somewhere. very well built cases for the price and they're famous nowadays.

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>>106798411
the discussion on qd oled vs woled relies on reviewers who put these kinda pictures on the reviews as if to say the panel looks like that in a lit room

so everyones being misled continuously

>>106797744
lol retard, good luck in life

>>106798482
> native 1080p in the most demanding UE5 sloppa without nuking your settings to potato quality.
Well that's just not true, it just means not using the absolute max settings for like 5 games, which if we're being fair aren't 1080p60 native on the 5080 either
I use a 5070 + almost always dlaa at 1080p for everything. Super rare to not be over 60 even with max settings

>>106798548
I have a 5070 too and the performance uplift at 1440p DLSS Quality is solid compared to 1080p DLAA. Maybe I overexaggerated, but DLSS is your friend if you buy Nvidia. That was my main point.
Also 1440p good.

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>>106798538
that's what I said
never trust sloptubers
do your own testing
you instantly know who tried product in real life and people who just regurgitate sloptuber talking points

>>106798701
wait so which one is supposed to be better? the one on the left correct?

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>>106798718
unless you like lower contrast yeah

is 899 a good price for a 5080

>>106797987
buy a 4070 super instead

>>106798753
so the blue one is OLED (the one we don't want) and the black one is what again?

>>106798892
the black one on the left is OLED the right one is LCD, you can see how much better OLED is on a dark screen

>>106798892
>>106798948
The left wall mount tv is a LG OLED , msi monitor in front is a qd-oled

Polarizer vs no polarizer

37c idle on my 9800X3D, very nice.

>>106798333
it doesn't have a good upscaler so into the trash it goes
a 4070 using dlss will have better image quality and framerate

>>106798975
Which cooler?

>>106799010
Phantom Spirit 120 SE

>>106799058
So I don't need a 360mm AIO for the 9800X3D?

>>106799065
It's not necessary, but it'd probably be a few degrees cooler if I had an Arctic Liquid Freeze on here. AIOs look cool and fit some cases better than an aircooler, but either will be fine for a 9800X3D.

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Need some advice, anyone have experience building a poverty computer? Saw a youtube video claiming you could build a decent 1080p machine for 450 dollars.
That seems absurdly low though, but my current computer is so bad I can barely run gacha games let alone anything more powerful. I was planning on waiting a couple of years to save up and build something nice but I'm not sure I can wait that long.
Now I'm thinking it might be better to just get something bare bones to keep me going for a few more years.
Any suggestions or ideas on what to do? My max budget would be 600 dollars. Is it possible to build something better than what I have now that would be a significant difference?

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Here's my PC parts list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/zntQ89
My graphics card died and I need a replacement.
Any recommendations?

>>106799106
Forgot to mention I'm in the US, was thinking of waiting until black friday if I do this. Might get better deals then. But I'm just not sure it's possible to do much better with such a low budget.

>>106799125
What do you want to do with this PC exactly?
Have you bought any of this already?

>>106799125
5070 ti

>>106799125
This is your current PC and you need a replacement GPU, correct? Anything 5070 or higher, as much as your budget allows.

>>106799106
>>106799160
If you're willing to go secondhand you can make something really nice for $450-600
all new is a lot harder but we can make something work. if you can keep your case and storage that'd help a lot, maybe psu too if it's a good unit
why are you running your 27" 1080p monitor at 720p though that must look awful
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8qnG9C a B580 would be great but it requires a better CPU to make use of its full potential due to driver overhead issues. the 5500 ain't anything special but it'll be a lot better than your 4690k

With some used parts and/or by reusing some stuff from you current build we can probably make something a lot nicer though

>>106799125
You can get a 9070 XT for 879.99 right now at Canada Computers.

How much better is the 9070 XT compared to the regular version?
Planning to leave Nvida (GTX 1080 my beloved) behind if the black friday sales are any good and I wanna know if the XT is worth the extra dosh or not.

>>106799169
Gaming.
>>106799177
Can I get away with a 5060 ti?
>>106799216
Why anything 5070 or higher? Will there be incompatibility issues?
>>106799224
Thanks, but I want to leave some money afford a warranty in case my card dies quickly again.

I had a pre-built PC that lasted 11 years and this is my first custom built PC.
I know it is a stupid question, but is it better that the GPU be a Gigabyte brand one because the motherboard is Gigabyte brand?

>>106799125
> 7900x
> ddr5-5200 cl40
I hope you only play GPU-bound games. CPU-limited ones struggle with slow RAM.

>>106799305
I knew I messed up somewhere on my first PC build.

>>106799269
>Will there be incompatibility issues?
No, but you'd probably want to get something as good as the 7700 XT or better. The 5060 Ti is basically a sidegrade, so anything 5070 tier or better will be a clear upgrade. The rest of your build is good enough to support a 5070 Ti.
>>106799318
Another mess-up point is probably the CPU because these 12-core Ryzen 9's are basically two 6-core Ryzen 5's in a trench-coat and games generally only use one of those 6-core packages to avoid latency from the two of them talking to eachother.
In terms of gaming you basically have a 7500F.
In terms of productivity yeah you will be making use of all 12 cores, because milisecond latency isn't as important as raw compute speed there.

>>106799269
5060 Ti is good yeah, and the motherboard/GPU being the same brand doesn't offer any benefits.

>>106799249
The XT is between 10-15% better. If you go with the 9070 look into the BIOS flashing method, people have gotten huge performance increases by flashing the XT BIOS onto the 9070.

>>106799220
>why are you running your 27" 1080p monitor at 720p though that must look awful
It just helps it run better, I don't sit at my desk I'm a little bit away from the screen so it doesn't look that bad to me.
Thanks for the info, I'll look into used stuff and see what's out there. Thinking I'll try to save until next month and see what kind of black friday deals there are. Might be able to get something better then.

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Got my 32" 1440p monitor and fuck this thing is huge. Thinking about returning it for the same 27" model. Is this something that takes getting used to?

>>106799396
its fine, just increase the scale of the text to a comfortable, relative size. And turn off HDR its a meme-tech that just hurts your eyes.

>>106799396
>tfw reading this on a 24' with a 32' on the way..

Yes/No
If i buy a 5070TI i can play every game in the market (and the foreseeable future) (except borderlands 4) at stable 60fps 1440p on high/ultra
Yes/No

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>>106799410
ignore him, im sure he's just an indian poorfag whose coping about his poverty rig, lying about a monitor he doesnt have.

>>106799396
you could always get a deeper desk + monitor arm so you can conveniently move it to appropriate distance

>>106799396
>32" 1440p
well that was a bad decision

>>106799431
yes but 60fps is console-pleb tier, you want to be at least around the 100fps mark ideally, if not 144fps, but to be fair thats a hard bar to meet unless you paypig for a 5090.

>>106799431
yes except for all the exceptions
like if you use console equivalent settings

just wait two more weeks guys the super 50 series cards are just two weeks away

>>106799431
Even 5070 can do 1440p 120 FPS if you use DLSS and 2x FG and set the graphics to the equivalent of "high" instead of ultra/epic/ÜBER/whatever. 2x FG is genuinely great in singleplayer games like Oblivion, but only with a base framerate above 60, ideally above 72.

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>>106799433
Why would I lie about this specific niche topic?
>>106799410
Mind you, this is just my immediate post unpacking impression. I also upgraded from a 24" screen, I'm just not used to this much real estate.
>>106799445
Was it? I heard it wasn't much worse than 27" and I found it for only 20 dollars more than the 27" version of the same monitor, I'm certainly not criticizing the quality.

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>>106799160
Could do something like this. Will probably be a bit over $500 if you need a case, storage, psu, etc

LGA 1700 + Turing (especially the 2080ti) or a 3080 is probably one of the better deals right now if you can buy things second hand. The z690 or z790 boards will be nice for your future raptor lake processor.

12600kf in the top right if you can expand the budget a bit or get a cheaper 2080ti or something.

New? Forget about it. Come back when your budget is closer to $1000 (including gpu)

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>>106799525
Ignore the specific motherboard in this screenshot

>>106799449
>60fps is console-pleb tier
I'd buy a PS6 on launch day if they could somehow prove to me that it would run every game, for 5+ years, at 4K60, no shader compilation stutter, no memory leaks, no FSR/PSSR upscaling.
The issue is 60 FPS is beyond console-pleb tier. It's entry level PC tier. Console plebs have to live with 30 FPS at 1080p upscaled to 1440p in 2025 games. Even an actual 1440p60 native would be great, but it's way beyond the scope of the consoles.
Remember that with the PS5 we were promised 4K120 and 8K60. Yeah.

>>106799344
Not really looking to upgrade. Just want to build a PC that will hopefully last another 10 years like my previous one did.
>>106799372
Alright thanks I'll see what's available at the local Canada's Computers and see if there's anything better but in my price range.

Has anybody ever paid extra for extended warranties and had to use them? Were they honored?

BUMPING >>106797700
is it even possible to build a mini pc yourself?

What's the best case under a hundred dollars that already comes with fans? It doesn't need to be big but also don't want a very small one either.

>>106799614
smallest you can go is mini-itx unless you want to get into SBC shit and then you will not have the power

>>106799546
>no FSR/PSSR upscaling
It will never happen. Upscaling allows console manufacturers to use weaker (cheaper) processors.
They also want frame generation for similar reasons..

>>106799637
lancool 217

>>106799673
>under one hundred dollars

I've never built an MATX compute but I want to try it out for my next build. Will dual tower coolers cause problems in small cases? Should I just go with a cheap AIO if I'm putting a hot CPU in it?

I simply cannot do it, cannot justify to spend 550 bucks for either the RX9070 nor the RTX5070.

And then I have to go down the next step, which is the 5060Ti. While has more support for games and the better upscaler, it costs 100 bucks more, nothing on sale here compared to the 9060XT.

Downside of the latter is that it draws anything from 160 to 200 Watts power from what I have seen on YT with those gaming benchmarks.
The 5060Ti is indeed the absolute most efficient GPU you can get, 140W to 160W.

30W delta x 10hr/day (I am a NEET) x 360days is a 108kWh difference.
Electricity price is 30cents/kWh here, that makes the 9060 about 30 bucks more expensive each year.

>>106799705
With a 150 bucks difference and 35% performance difference you're straight up scamming yourself going for a 450 euro (or equivalent) 5060 Ti over a 600 euro 5070. VRAM is not as important as AMD shills would like you to believe.

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Hello there.

>>106799689
matx usually isn't that restrictive, just check the listed cooler clearance

Is there a modern case that comes with lots of drive bays? I want to build a computer that I would at some point in the future turn into a nas. Don't care about tempered glass or any of that shit, just want it to be big enough to fit lots of hard drives and easy to build with if possible.

>>106799744
Oh shit that's a stat, I can't read

>over 80% of GNs audience buy AMD
https://youtu.be/C3rUP3ULlUQ?t=23
grim
intel needs to get techtubers back on their side or they're gonna lose the DIY market

>>106799705
just undervolt
my vega got +250 MHz while the power draw dropped 60W

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/69VBkf
1440p 90fps gaming at medium - high, dual boot with light windows virtualization for cunny archive. PSU should be RMX Shift 1000w, for the eventual CPU and GPU upgrade. $2600AUD is the budget Australia

>>106799705
>I simply cannot do it, cannot justify to spend 550 bucks for either the RX9070 nor the RTX5070.
eh they'll both be $500 come black friday just wait a few weeks

>>106799822
They'll be discounted to $750

>>106799822
>Black Friday deals
>2016+9

>>106799793
People are still watching drama-nexus?

>>106799723
Well, both Nvidia and AMD are scumbags, obviously they are all about profit, so they try their best to upsell their next higher tier card.

I bet both the 5060Ti and the 9060XT will already run out of raw power at fhd by the end of next year which will force you to play with frame generation and balanced upscaling.

>>106799799
I don't think the 9060XT can be undervolt by a lot.

>>106799845
yep his views haven't dropped at all

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>>106799845
i'm sure the stats are similar for other channels
all the big channels shill AMD relentlessly

>>106799822
>BF
>deals

Really? No deals for products in demand here in Europe at all.
It's just scam basically, just out of date products they want to get rid off will get some nice discount.

>>106799705
The 5070 is a way better purchase.

>>106799886
>12GB VRAM

Maybe if it's on sale for below 500. But here the the normal RX9070 is about the same price.

>>106799914
You either get the piss or the shit in the current video game market.
>AMD
worse upscaling in a world where native rez gaming is borderline dead at 1440p and above
>NVIDIA
less vram in a world where games are consistently using 10GB or more
pick your poison

>>106799914
The 5060 ti is so slow it can't realistically enable enough settings to use 16GBs.

>>106799929
I'm coping with super refresh having more vram

>>106799929
slightly worse image quality seems better than 5 fps

>>106799941
It won't be sold at the same market price though, I expect it to be around 600 once it is widely available.
So around 80 to 100 more compared to the 5070.

>>106799372
>people have gotten huge performance increases by flashing the XT BIOS onto the 9070
will the 9070 still draw 220W instead of 300W like the XT?

wtf the 5060ti 16GB has VRAM modules on the back of the PCB

I'm currently on a 12400F and RX 6600XT, where would I go from here if I want a substantial upgrade

>>106799955
No the flash is literally so it can use more power

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/VyCxwY

Thoughts for gayming 1440p 120Hz? Any significant upgrades? I usually keep the build for ~5-8y and upgrade CPU/GPU every 3y.

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>>106797587
When I have lumen ray tracing on, my 2080 Ti outer fans (sensor 1) has an increasingly high chance of starting to grind really loudly. I tried to turn the fan off manually but it bottoms out at 20% fan speed. What is going on and how can I fix it

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>>106799974

>>106799965
The 12400 is still a decent cpu, your gpu is kind of lacking

>>106799985
Oil it

>>106799970
as in about 300W like the XT?

>>106799396
32" is not even that large and 4k@32" can be used perfectly fine unscaled
1440p is just 1080p tier ppi and huge as fuck

>>106800058
even scaled it will have proper integer scaling

>>106799948
i think if the 5080 super is 24gb and about the same price i'd go for it
though the same problem as when the 50 series launched, just get the 5090 at that point

>>106799965
Best GPU within your budget. The CPU is still fine.

How to fix Palit Gamingpro fans? They have horrible humming buzzing motor sound even at 30%

>>106800065
1080p feels giga cramped after being used to 4k
it's over

I still don't know what 4K monitor to get
Not OLED

>>106799803
Those BX500 drives have a 720TBW endurance (390GB per day for 5 years), higher-end SSDs usually have 1200TBW for 2TB drives.
P3 Plus endurance is even worse @ 220 TBW.
Probably won't matter for casual users, but something you should know.

>>106800181
Those BX drives are godawful, slowest SSDs I've ever bought. I can't believe Crucial nuked the MX500s and kept those pieces of crap.

>>106799688
I'm getting ready to leave & pick up a Lancool 207
Comes with four fans, if you're using an aio you don't need to add any more
$95.61 after tax

>>106800114
replace them with diy noctua solution

>>106800219
Thanks I'll check it out.

I just ordered TITAN ARMY P275MV PLUS, I hope it'll be good. Is North Bayou f80 an alright monitor arm for it?

How much motherboard do I need if I'm getting a 7800x3d+9060xt and maybe one or two m.2 drives? Only gaming no productivity or AI. I would like the possibility of some upgradability in the future to a better gpu.

>>106799745
Fractal Define, Be Quiet Dark/Silent Base. You can also pick whichever case and put the drives in a DAS enclosure.

Is upgrading from a 3060 ti to a 16gb 5060 ti worth it for 1440p if I have a 5800x3d?

>>106800298
Gigabyte B850 EAGLE WIFI6E is good enough for your use case and is currently discounted in the US.
Decent VRM cooling with no restrictive CPU power limit.

>>106800343
Use cases would mostly be monster hunter wilds and total Warhammer 3 as well

>>106800298
approximately one

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>>106800343
Maybe
Problem for the 5060 ti is that it's not that much cheaper than the usually significantly faster 5070.

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Between these three cards what's the best bang for my buck? I plan to upgrade to a good card when the 6000 series comes out and just want something to get by until then. Should I just go for the cheapest or is it worth spending a bit more? I'm currently using a GTX960.

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>>106800431
>Use cases would mostly be monster hunter wilds
You're going to be disappointed. The game's a mess.

>>106800579
And almost all future release from now on will look like that.

>>106800570
I'm also open to alternative ideas, I just need something because I can't even play modern games at all now. Specifically I would like something that could handle Path of Exile 2 if possible. Doesn't have to look great just get me 60fps.

>>106800570
>>106800611
I'd decide between the 9060 XT or the 5070.

>>106800591
>>106800579
Okay, guess I'll bite the bullet on a 5070

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Friendly reminder I'm very happy with my m27p6 purchase

I ordered a 9600XT for 330 bucks.

Fuck it, no game out now or in the near future that justifies spending more on it.

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>>106800570
The 9060 XT & 5060 Ti perform nearly the same so there's little reason to go for the 60 Ti if you just want something cheap to tide you over.

If you want the best bang for your buck get this 9070 that's $500 on Ebay right now (it's $50 less than the 5070, has more VRAM, and performs higher, see chart):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/365902496437

If you want something inexpensive here's a 7700 XT that's a bit more performant that the 9060 XT and on the 5060 Ti's level but for just $300:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/267423924681

how sketchy is a one year old reddit account with no confirmed trades messaging me?
no activity for one year and then 5 days ago they post in 6 different listings.

>>106800570
Probably 5070. Card is good enough you'll probably have no reason to upgrade for at least a couple gens unless you buy a xx90 or the 6000 cards are just really really good.
The 5070, you're looking at a 30%-40% uplift from the 60ti, and a 40-50%+ (some games are still just trash on radeon even without rt) from the 9060xt.
Since you're coming from maxwell, you probably don't know that dlss is really good now. As long as the internal resolution is ~720p you're good to go.

>>106800649
50%

>>106800649
How much poop to part ratio are you comfortable with?

>>106800649
sussy baka

>>106800655
>As long as the internal resolution is ~720p you're good to go.
Sorry but what does that mean exactly? I don't really know anything about dlss or these new technologies.

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Is there a reason why the 7600X consumes more power than the 7800X3D?
I thought more cores = more power consumption

>>106800660
it's a sub $200 part that I have been trying to sell so I might take my chances.

>>106800243
l use exactly the same monitor arm but with Asrock PG27QFT1B monitor, can't complain.

>>106800668
most games use upscaling and 720p is a base resolution they can upscale from to the output res of 1440p
the games might use terms like "perfomance, balanced, quality" mode or have a sliding % scale. usually they hover between 50%, 66% 75% base res
If performance mode dlss is 50% ratio then it upscales from 720p to 1440p

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Maybe there will finally be a miniLED monitor worth owning and yes those KTC 1000 dimming zones ones are trash

So what would be a better choice: am4 8 core or 6 core am5? Use cases would be gaming mainly but I wanna try out blender and maybe some other shit I get interested in.
>>106797700
I think there’s another thread up about a mini pc and it mention 60 fps ps3 emu. If nothing else you should probably have enough to play at like 720p30 like the og console.
>>106797714
That’s devs and ue5’s fault

>>106800668
The resolution the game is running at before dlss does stuff to it is what I mean

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/oymxyp/dlss_20_render_resolutions_one_post_to_rule_them/

You have 3 or 4 presets in most games with the option to set whatever you want in the Nvidia App (usually)

>>106800688
There is a reason.
Stupid default TDP on Zen4 X SKUs.
Non-X Zen4 use almost half of the power.
This is also the reason why those X CPUs run very hot.
All of this to get ~3% extra performance.
Out of the box experience is quite bad because you have to tweak some settings otherwise your CPU boosts until it hits thermal limit.

>>106800722
What kind of tweaks should I do to get in line with the non-X CPUs?

>>106800710
https://www.tcl.com/global/en/monitors/27r94 seems interesting with 2.3k zones

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>>106800710
https://www.displayninja.com/new-monitors/#UpcomingMiniLEDMonitors
Both the TCL 32G64 & 32R84 don't have enough dimming zones, but the TCL 27R94 is looking very interesting.

>>106800181
>>106800209
thanks for saving me from a terrible investment. what ssd's would you recommend, these are going to be stuck behind that motherboard for at least 6 years.
also I'd like a the nvme to be sutiable for using as a cache for a planned future mirrored raid.

>>106800705
So I set the resolution of my monitor to 720 then use a setting in game to scale it higher?

>>106800739
ofc they need to nail the processing and firmware and other features or it's another trash miniled we've seen many of past 3 years

>>106800735
You can simply change the power limit in UEFI.
For 7600X the default is 142W PPT, 7600 has 88W PPT.
You can also tweak PBO settings and set negative voltage offset with curve optimizer, but that requires testing stability. The first option is fire and forget.

>>106800753
you dont do anything with monitor
if you own nvidia gpu released past 5 years you go ingame settings, enable dlss upscaling and select the mode and then you go game
if you want better quality you select higher base res, if you want more fps you select lower eg performance dlss

>>106800753
You set your monitor to it's native resolution (1080p, 1440p, etc.) and then in-game enable the setting called DLSS, and adjust it's preset between Quality, Balanced, Performance.
What DLSS does is take your set resolution e.g. 1440p, scale it down to something like 67% (~960p), and then use an AI model to upscale it back to 1440p with minimal image quality loss at a normal viewing distance.

>>106800759
Also even if they manage to nail the tuning we'll need to see how bad the VA smearing is.

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i haven't followed anything pc parts since february, why is microcenter selling nvidia gpus for below msrp now?

>>106800785
nah, they got the samsung patents for fast va panels so thats a solved problem

>>106800792
Historically it was the norm that GPUs sold below MSRP after several months of release. Nature is healing.

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>>106800801
>gpu prices drop after like 5 months
>ps5 prices continue to rise after like 5 years
Make this make sense

>>106800772
>>106800784
Oh ok thanks for that explanation I think I understand now.

>>106800803
...And yet Nvidia is holding off on releasing the SUPERs until after CES which I think is braindead since they are willfully missing the holiday shopping season.

>>106800819
I think retailers want to get rid of some of their non-super stock before nvidia makes them all junk. They are struggling to sell any of em. Even 5090s are rotting on shelves.

>>106797975
It's high power because you never let the chiplet sleep. Techpowerup disables ASPM so PCIE never sleeps properly aka your CPU / GPU / SSD. That's why their RTX 5000 idle power is all over the place compared to other reviewers.

>>106800165
gs27u
let me guess you need more

>>106800638
literally no minileds on sale in current region
almost not
some tcl about it in 4k
why are they even selling 1080p minileds?

>>106800710
all these meme monitors are 50% the cost of a LG G5 55" on sale or a S95F
or you can get a mid range oled 77" for the same cost even less
>but it's not a small screen!
yeah
isn't larger screens better for hdrmaxxing and singleplayermaxxin anyway

>>106800739
>va
>va
>va
>va
yep it's over

>>106800800
>so thats a solved problem
samsung could not solve va
but maybe good enough

>>106800819
Some Geforce Product Manager looking for bonuses might care about that but I doubt Nvidia as a whole will. Lisa Su has the CES 2026 keynote so Nvidia has to have something to announce at that show as they have nothing else for consumer or anyone else coming until 2H26 at the earliest.

>>106800812
A $600 launch day PS5 from 2020 still runs the latest AAA games "fine". A $600 PC from 2020 probably straight up can't launch Doom Dark Ages and Indiana Jones because it doesn't support hardware accelerated Ray Tracing, by having an RX580 or GTX 1060 inside.

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>>106800832
you dont want ips miniled

>>106800165
Well giving us a budget to start with would help.

>>106800844
>you dont want ips miniled
Personally I can't get over VA's dark smearing and narrow viewing angles. If I wanted 0 Bloom I would get OLED.

>>106798998
FSR4 is literally better than DLSS4 now and 7900xtx can use it

>>106800803
i thought MLID is unreliable

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>>106798499
Retarded jit.

>>106800826
>I think retailers want to get rid of some of their non-super stock before nvidia makes them all junk
Would it be stupid to buy a 5070ti now? How much more powerful are the SUPER cards going to be? Won't they cost a lot more too?

>>106800838
>2020 probably straight up can't launch Doom Dark Ages and Indiana Jones.
Ampere and RDNA2 launched in the second half of 2020, and before that Turing from 2018 supports hardware rt.
>580 or 1060
Yeah I'm sure there's like 4 third worlders who bought those gpus for a new build in 2020...

>>106800863
oled just costs 2-3 more
VA miniled has advantages like being brightner and not having automatic brightness limiters

>>106797587
Are the ASRock Mobo problems only with the 9000 series? I already have an itx ASRock board (which I'm replacing with an Asus strix for the current PC), but I'm thinking about using that ASRock board with a 7000 series CPU later to make a gift PC for my younger sister.

We used to play WoW together when we were both teenagers, and she hasn't had a PC capable of playing games for about a decade now. If it's too risky even with a 7000 series, I'll just get a different Mobo, but I'd rather put that cost difference into getting her nicer storage/memory/case etc.

>>106800881
The rumor mill says they will cost the same, which is unlikely but the 5080 super might get a price bump to 1200. With no cuda core count increase, so that will be a piece of shit.

>>106800884
In what world were you able to build a PC with RDNA2, Ampere or Turing in 2020 for $600, the price of the PS5, during prime covid, with massive electronics shortages and inflated prices?

Did Nvidia ever fix their driver issues yet for their RTX cards on Windows 11 or Linux today? Otheriwse im picking up a rx 9070xt. Can't find any proof that Nvidia drivers got better now since my games customer support says to downgrade.

>>106799739
aiobi one kenobi

How much should I trust the listed gpu length?
Looking at a 322 mm card, the user reviews say they barely fit it into a 330mm case
I have a 320mm and wouldn't want to buy another one just to put in a new gpu

>>106800907
If you're using Linux, you're probably better off with the 9070 XT anyways (unless your non-game activities really need cuda).

>>106800881
>How much more powerful are the SUPER cards going to be
Same performance, just more vram. 5070 super technically supposed to get a likely negligible improvement (6144 to 6400 cores?)
>cost
Unknown but it's probably reasonable to assume they'll be scalped out the ass

If you need an upgrade do it now while every Nvidia gpu is at or below msrp. Super cards are coming out in q2, so at that point you might as well just wait for 6000 which will be on a new node.

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>>106800881
>Would it be stupid to buy a 5070ti now? How much more powerful are the SUPER cards going to be? Won't they cost a lot more too?
Literally single digits, and that's if we're being generous. Only the 5070 Super is getting a Shader Count buff so any performance increase on the other cards would be from juicing the clocks something you can already do to the vanilla cards with MSI Afterburner. I would go ahead and grab the 5070 Ti sometime between now and Black Friday on sale if you see a good deal.

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>>106800906
Idk in what world are you buying 4 year old low end gpus?

>>106800919
>q2
lol first rumor was q4 2025 then just recently q1 2026, now it's q2?

>>106800913
It's a 30 dollar 360 aio.

>>106800902
>Are the ASRock Mobo problems only with the 9000 series? I already have an itx ASRock board (which I'm replacing with an Asus strix for the current PC), but I'm thinking about using that ASRock board with a 7000 series CPU later to make a gift PC for my younger sister.
7000 series is fine. Something about the 9000 series is not playing nicely with them (there are also smaller reports of issues with other OEMs too for that matter).

>>106800902
I have the B650M-H/M.2+ and a Ryzen 5 9600, no issues. Allegedly the problems are only with X3D power hungry chips which blow the VRMs up or whatever.

>>106800915
in that case the listed gpu length supported might have been with fans removed, so if he has 20mm fans in the front it would be a squeeze

>>106800922
God why is the 5080 so shit?

>>106800934
They're getting announced in January, you can expect stock in stores up to 3 months later, and normalized prices 3-6 months after that. Realistically you're not getting a 5070 Super for anywhere near current 5070 prices until next summer, maybe fall.

>>106800942
Good to know. I'll probably just get a 7600x. I already have an rx 6600 sitting around, which will be fine for a starting point anyways. I think those pair relatively well and leaves room for a better GPU later if she really needs it.

x3d tip: it's easy to cool in general but if you set curve optimizer to -20 or -30 all core (negative, so undervolt/harmless) an efficient CPU becomes even more efficient/cool.

temps are a non issue, AM5 wants to run hot. but it runs even cooler.

>>106800702
Mine seems slightly heavier, but not by much (6kg vs 5.8kg with the stand; I can't find how much it weighs without it), so that's good to know. Thanks.

>>106800949
Nvidia only want to sell 5090s and have spent the last two generations making the XX80 as shit as possible. They even tried to screw over the 3080 with that 10GB shit and releasing the $1200 3080ti

>>106800916
Okay then 9070xt it is. I just don't want Nvidia dll errors again.

>>106800947
I thought so too, but I've seen something like 30 or 40 different cases of the ASRock b850i/m boards blowing up 9600x CPUs over the last month. I don't think the 9600x is safe from the murderboard problem, just safer than the x3d. It's a bummer too, because I actually like ASRock. Their challenger GPUs are great bang for your buck and usually fit well into smaller cases.

>>106800960
Not all CPUs can do -30 or even -20. Mines craps out past -13. If you don't want it as hot then adjust pbo limits. The Mobo default has crazy high tdc & edc.

>>106800916
And if you're on Linux you can just use ROCm.

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>>106800947
>I have the B650M-H/M.2+ and a Ryzen 5 9600, no issues. Allegedly the problems are only with X3D power hungry chips which blow the VRMs up or whatever.
My stupid-ass guess is that it has to do with how they changed the 3D VCache sandwich layers on the CCD (and consequently raised the clockspeed frequency ceiling) between Zen 4 & Zen 5 X3Ds.

>>106800973
> I just don't want Nvidia dll errors again.

Tell me about it. My work computer uses a 3080 12 gb on Ubuntu 22.04. Every time I see a driver update I have to cross my fingers and hope it won't break everything.

Unfortunately, we really do need cuda support, so team green it is. For gaming or personal computers I'd never want to deal with these driver problems.

>>106800989
20 seems like a good starting point, the rest is silicon lottery. then again it isn't even needed cause the chip is so efficient (like 60 watts when doing cyberpunk with path tracing, some intels would draw 200+).

>>106800991
I haven't had good luck with ROCm actually being any good. It's definitely a lot better than it used to be and is starting to be more supported, but it definitely doesn't work as well as cuda for a lot of inference and engineering applications.

I'm glad that pytorch is actually taking seriously the problem of ROCm and Intel acceleration support, but it just isn't there yet for professional use.

>the amount of money I spent on cables and adapters just to trouble shoot 4k screen I could have bought two whole 1080p 180hz ips monitors on sale for the same cost almost
Really makes you think, we have hit diminishing returns
More quality won't make games better or more enjoyable either
1080p chads might have been Right

>>106801168
unironically skill issue

>>106801168
>trouble shoot 4k screen
>with cables and adapters

???

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Anyone used this TV? I'm not quite ready to pull the trigger on OLED. This one seems to have a lot of good reviews and claims to solve some issues that mini led has like haloing. It's the highest rated non oled tv on rtings. I'm looking for something between 48-55 inches, if not this one do you have any other recommendations?
Would be using it as a computer screen smart stuff is not important.

>>106799705
>the 5060Ti. While has more support for games
pretty sure they dropped 32bit and/or DX9 support for the Njudean 5000 series entirely no? lmao 'more support'. Bro get a job or something will ya? get a bicycle and deliver ubereats if you have to lol.

>>106801214
buy the 27r94 instead

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Is 850w enough for a 5080? or should I get a 1000w to be safe? there's a prime sale for a 70 dollar 1000w Rosewill VMG

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>>106799861
>recommending the superior product is shilling
Cope you manchild retards, imagine being soo scared of change you seethe at a company offering a better product because you're used to paypigging for Intel-aviv of all things kek.

>>106799845
>holding greedy corporations and exploitative behaviour to account is being a 'drama' channel
man, who's paying you to be soo aggressively retarded for a living Pradeep?

>>106799614
maybe try asrock deskmini with an 8600g or 8700g

>>106801265
>recommending the superior product is shilling
that would be fine if they were consistent

but the 265K is in the exact same position that the 2700X/3700X was back in the day
in fact the gaming performance delta between a 265K and high-end AMD is smaller than something like a 2700X and 8700K or 3700X and 9900K
but they still recommended those chips to "budget-conscious" buyers because AMD needs to win and intel needs to lose

and then of course there's 14th gen which is still being treated like a brand new chip could blow up any second in your system
(but ryzen 9000 is fine, even though it could literally blow up any second in your system)

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>>106801250
850W would be plenty so if you want to save the 10-15$ you can.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FFQN6344

Both models are (likely) based on the same Andyson LLC/DC-DC platform inside:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/edit?gid=931697732#gid=931697732

>>106797963
>Got a 9070 xt for $20 under MSRP
Feels good, man

>>106801360
I bought a brand new 5080 fe from FB for 800 dollars

>>106801388
its not advicable to confess to crimes online

>>106801334
went with the 850w. thanks

Corsair MP600 Elite vs Samsung 990 EVO PLUS
Both are 2TB and both are roughly the same price which is 120€, which one is better?

Okay so I'm definitely skipping NVIDIA drivers.

Switching to DX12 increased video memory consumption by 25%, increased the load on the video card by 15% and added micro-freezes from shader compilation in my game using Nvidias driver.

On friends AMD system its the opposite.

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>>106800844
Maybe it's time to return to tradition with edge lit IPS

>>106801214
>VA TV
all VA tvs have insane smear
on TVs you are forced to get OLED or get a 75" ADS IPS pro or some shit to counter act it some what
If you wanna use it for pc use or gaymen, VA TV? It's over

>>106801174
I'm just stating facts, even though I returned all

>>106801191
just to get a usb-c conversion

>>106801591
9070/xt prices have been dipping below msrp here now almost compare it to a 5090 which is more than 3x the cost
maybe the price performance cucks were right after all
price performance and stop fomoing over high and and buy a new rig in 10 years later, yep, comfy

>>106801591
Haven't you already posted this before? What game are you even talking about?

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>>106801581
The EVO PLUS is sliiiiiiiiiightly better but if one is even 1 cheaper I'd get that one instead. That's how little of a difference there is.
https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10883/samsung-990-evo-plus-2tb-ssd-the-dramless-powerhouse/index.html

>>106801628
I'm >>106800907
Talking about UE4 & UE5. happens in both.

>>106801641
Alright and thanks for the chart

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>>106801628

>>106801647
UE 4 & 5 have traversal stutters & background shader compilation issues, the GPU you own doesn't matter.
The latest UE5 upgrade talks about reducing stutters.
https://overclock3d.net/news/software/unreal-engine-5-6-fixes-critical-performance-issues/

>>106801628
>>106801661
This guy's a trolling Radeon coper.
Do not take him seriously.
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/LlcDpJWqNXUDjXV1eVTpxA/

>>106801647
Well the driver issues on windows were exaggerated and were mostly only a thing in edge cases, and regardless the big ones were fixed.
However if you insist on being a meme lord and forcing yourself to endure linux for video games, yes you would go AMD

UE4 and 5 stutters are universal, it doesn't matter what gpu you have. Basically entirely cpu dependent. If anything you would have more issues with a 9070xt, RDNA4 is confirmed to have issues with ue4 and especially with any rt.

>>106801641
Don't buy the 990 EVO PLUS if your board doesn't have a Gen 5 x4 M.2 slot.
It will run at Gen 4 x2.

>>106801740
Why don't they just give us more PCIe lanes

What's up gamers? Building a PC for the first time in 10 years. Looking at a 9060XT paired with a 9600X in a little case. Should I ball out and buy a 9070XT? Is 1440p even worth the extra 300 bucks plus monitor upgrade? I mostly play older games anyways, I just want to join in on FOTM slop with my boys.

>>106801794
what country

>>106801794
6 core is dying games even asking for 8 core minimums now

>>106801794
Stepping up to a 9070 XT is probably worth it if you plan to keep the PC for a while.

>>106801867
USA
>>106801903
This feels like a lie

>>106801794
1440p is worth it because a decent entry level 27 inch 1440p IPS monitor is like 200 bucks, and even the 9060XT and 5060Ti tier cards can handle it with some upscaling.
Plus you get a 1440p screen for desktop usage which is always great.

>>106801693
not even 5 mins response time you are being paid

>>106801956
6 core CPUs with 12 threads are fine for gaming.
Some newer games scale better with over 8 threads.

>>106801388
Nice, I got a 4080 super off Craigslist for 650 because the dude needed emergency rent money. I felt kind of bad but it was a great score.

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>>106801794
Go 4K get a 9950X3D and a 5090 and a 65" OLED

>>106801978
It's called a coincidence, I don't camp this thread all day.

>>106801956
>USA
5070 or 5070 ti
The amd cards aren't worth buying here unless you just really want to be team red.
>This feels like a lie
That's because he is lying

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>tfw have a 5080
>tfw haven't gotten a 1440p monitor yet

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>>106801956
It's on the way out with 8GB GPUs

>>106802013
Good thing I have a 14 core i5 :)

>>106802046
>>106802046
>>106802046

>>106801925
Thing is I feel like my processor is a more important future-proofing item than the GPU and I don't want to push this thing to 1500 bucks as someone who doesn't really play new gen games all that often and likes strategy and other CPU intensive games. I'd rather pop a 7800x3D in there before a newer GPU.
>>106802007
Dat 12GB do
>>106802013
Let me guess, 0.1% increase in global 8cores?

>>106800740
Late reply, but I'd get Samsung 870 Evo for SATA SSD, WD SN850X for NVMe SSD.
The 990 Pro NVMe SSD is fine for Windows.
They are pricier, but the 870 Evo has a proven track record of reliability.
2TB models of those drives have 1200 TBW endurance.

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>>106802087
7800X3D + 9060 XT 16GB is some eSports poser setup.
A bad one at that.

>>106802087
>Dat 12GB do
By the time it actually matters like 5 years from now it'll be time to be scouting another upgrade anyways.

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>>106802009
>He didn't consider a 5070 Ti or a 9070 XT + a new 1440p monitor

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>>106802174
>Not just saving the money and using a high end gpu + 300+hz 1080p monitor

>>106801597
>VA TV
>all VA tvs have insane smear
Oh I thought that was IPS. Do they even make IPS tv's? I really want a 48 or 55 inch screen if possible. I've lived with old tech monitors my whole life so I'm not dying to get oled or anything fancy just want something nicer than the shitter I've got.

>>106799948
only at start for few months perhaps
new standard (like from 2gb - 4gb to 6gb and 8gb jump)
pay tracing needs vram
vr needs vram
home ai needs vram

from rtx 6000 and up 18gb will be for 6060ti, low end 6060 and 6050 will be 16gb
everything else will get over 20gb