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This drives the audiophile into a schizophrenic frenzy.

>>106805561
this + at your eardrum the FR will be completely different

>>106805561
>but squig showed 1 thing... and I heard another thing... that must mean... driver quality...

>>106805573
>gptzo
>heard

>>106805573
>driver quality
it's indeed one of the variables which does impact the FR, but we don't know how exactly, but can hear it very consistently
deafzos ITT will say it's bullshit, that driver quality and techs are made up and don't exist, but that's expected by someone who can't hear and also is a brown newfag from reddit

>>106805593
1 measurement.

>>106805599
100% irrelevant until you show me how to make measurements at the eardrum and stop gaslighting people with your plebbit-tier sciencistic dogmas

>>106805593
>but can hear it very consistently
where are the abx test results?
The burden of proof lies with the one who says something exists, not with the one who says it doesn't.

>>106805569
>this + at your eardrum the FR will be completely different
well not completely.

>>106805593
Nigga you can't even hear the FR, you thought determining your length mode was worthy of writing a paper. Leave the search for things beyond FR to more capable people.
>>106805609
You can measure at the eardrum with your eardrum. Crazy I know. Crazy for someone that never made his own EQ preset that is.

>>106805593
who's we? you and chatgpt? both of you can't hear shit.

>>106805609
oh so now we arrive at "driver quality is an immeasurable mystery component we simply do not know"
fucking retard that's where we started.
I asked you back then and will ask again - how do you know you are hearing driver quality instead of LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE?
And what will your answer be? Something retarded like "if you eq 2 pos to the same target" bla-bla
you are a fucking idiot

>dogshit OPs
>dogshit recs
>dogshit EQ guide for trolling anons itt
>brown deafzos overtaken the thread
>the last 2-3 threads hit 310 very quickly because of their insufferable babble about "le science"
I mean, it's always some kind of break from techs=price retards and instagram-tier pics of owned pos, but turning it into this is not necessarily a good change
anyway, it's over

>>106805593
>but we don't know how exactly
1 year later he finally understands that driver quality is not in the measurements.

>>106805667
Lets talk about soundstage then. The synergy between my dac and my iems gives them a nice out of head imaging

>>106805667
>>dogshit recs
give better recs then???

So as a headphone only lover who cannot stand earbuds, after seeing many of these thread, I decided to get some ST2 Pros for my phone (so usbc)...
Lets say I am fairly pleasantly surprised. They needed EQ for sure but... desu for the price they do a pretty decent job compared to my beyer 990 and my good old trusty HD25...
I put them thru their paces with tracks I kbow by heart and they did pretty good, a few gripes here and there but really forgivable stuff. Even noticed some tiny tiny details in the mix I had missed with my HD25.
However long term reliability is likely to be a problem. And comfort is okay but once again i dont like earbuds so this is very close...
Would I do a deeply analytical listen on these? No. Listen occasionally, sure.
Something I find disturbing is that i now hear every movement of my jaw, lips, tongue, breath.

>>106805667
Clueless retards think that techs are hidden in some part of the IEM. But the more you learn the more obvious it is that it's just the price. And it genuinely sounds better too(if you can see what you're listening to).

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>>106805715
Fox IEM, endgame.

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I have a question bros, is the screwable part on speakers some kind of standard? Or does every speaker manufacturer have their own screw diameter and such, I want some stands but dont know if to aim specifically for iloud stands or not, since all I seen kinda suck.

>>106805765
>iLoud MTM’s 3/8" threaded bottom also allows them to be mounted directly to standard mic stands in most countries or by using a 5/8" male to 3/8" female thread adapter (required for the US and some territories).

>>106805727
>Something I find disturbing is that i now hear every movement of my jaw, lips, tongue, breath.
you get used to it (or more like brain will start to filter it out)

>>106805805
Oh thats useful, I was considering camera stands too, thanks anon.

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>zombie scat

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>Take Audiogram Puretone test
>Chart is normal at 15 decibels and takes a huge dip to 23db at around 2khz -4khz
>Been listening to chinkfi harmanslop for 3 years
This is normal hearing loss due to age right?

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>among lowest distortion drivers in the industry
>only IEM maker to improve their IEMs when they revise
>proved BA timbre doesn't exist and that audiotards are hallucinating with their 1DD+1 fake BA
>releases 1DD+8BA right after
>charges $0, courtesy of Aliexpress and the Chinese government
>Castor, PR2 and EDC Pro
>made PR2 even more EQ friendly by removing the dampening
>upgrades your drivers for you every time you buy them
>causes buttmad

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For me it's the PR2 RU7 combo

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>>106806206

>I don't have hearing loss, I have above average bass perception

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The Mid-Autumn Festival, also known as the Moon Festival,
is a time to enjoy the full moon and share joy with loved ones.
Celebrate this moment of wholeness with Tanch!

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>EA500
>low Mms
>perfect BL(X)
>corrugated diaphragm using advanced COMSOL simulations to achieve the best geometry
>no cone breakup modes
>cutting-edge material science
>microscopic level of precision
>japanese CCAW voice coil
>best venting system
>no MD distortion
>full range
>makes schizos think they can match 1:1 that greatness by EQing in situ by ear

I figured out how to fix iemg. Post hand and bank account with a secure tripcode. If someone starts talking shit, reply with the tripcode to prove the other person is Indian or otherwise a poorfag. This is the only way to keep this general pure.

>>106806498
The fact they did all this and the result is ear rape just shows none of this matters.

>>106806877
>has problem with ear rape
If only you could read. Then you could read the EQ guide.

>>106806894
Listening at 120dB - opinion discarded.

>>106805692
how holographic and 3-D is the positioning on your rig bro. gettin some good k/d ratio on my r2r otl vxpros

>>106805228
>>106805352
>>106805337
>producers, who use in-ear monitors for actual studio monitoring.
they literally don't.
>>106805644
kek

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>>106805593
>driver quality is real
>but we don't know how exactly
Just enjoy a pair of KZ IEMs already.

I really want to be wowed by the clarity and instrument separation in my first iem. Can cheap single drivers (i.e. bunny, chu2) really get the job done or should I spring for a decent multi driver set? I'm thinking Truthear hexa.

*bright pos ALERT* and the guy loves treble
https://youtu.be/XL-jIHMH6U4 [Embed]
AVOID

>>106807351
what are your preferences? basshead? treble sensitive?

>>106807351
>Can cheap single drivers (i.e. bunny, chu2) really get the job done
they can, but some have a dip around 9-10 kHz that you might notice, which impacts clarity. You can fix it with eq, but Hexa is also good if using a low-impedance source.

ChatGPT won.

>>106807402
Mark you chump, you don't need to write [Embed]

>>106807582
i mistakenly posted it in the old thread and just coypasta desu

>>106807351
More drivers are used to reach a specific analog tuning. Driver type or count doesn't matter much to me. I mean I try to buy single DDs because more drivers = heavier and bigger shells. Also crossover + more drivers might be equal to more issues / failings

>>106807351
VX Pro+ since you got a lot of replies and no answer

I want to break into guidezo's place and give him the love his father never gave him.

>they wear iems indoors instead of headphones and speakers
why?

>>106807981
What advantage do headphones have over iems?

I have a hidizs ap80-pro, and aful performer 8 iems. It's pretty neat, but my job involves lots of coordination with teammates which means that when I'm at the office, someone may talk to me at any moment. If I'm listening to music I can't hear anything else and it may come off as rude to ignore someone who tries to talk to me. But I also don't want to listen to music by only one ear. Is there any solution to properly enjoy my music while also being able to listen if someone is talking to me at the office? Maybe a good iem with passthrough or something?

>>106808047
tws with pass-through feature.

>>106807981
Sound quality.

>>106808041
they leak sound through the earcups

flathead earbuds (you'll look way more normie with wired apple earpods).
or tws with passthough aka transparency / conversation mode, a common feature.

>>106808410
meant for>>106808047

>>106808353
Advantage?

>>106808421
they don't make open back IEMs, so you'll need headphones if you want this option

Is there a scenario where hybrids are better than 1DD?

>>106808470
better analog tuning

>>106808468
Why would anyone want to hear less detail?

>>106808478
I didn't say detail, I said open back and leak sound through ear cups

>>106808482
It goes both ways - the room noise leaks into the cups and masks music.

>>106808498
>I live in a wind tunnel
this is a problem for all audio devices nigga

>>106808524
I have a PC.

>>106808531
>gaymer
that explains it

>>106808542
Dumb phoneposter.

>>106808550
I accept your concession.

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>>106808470
if we're talking instrument separation, even 1planar is miles better than 1DD. dynamic drivers seem to need room, IEMs are the worst case scenario for 1DD, cramping them in there turns them into a soundstage-less mudfest 90% of the time. the other 10% are really cheap pairs that sound good

>>106808615
So meme drivers are good for mental illness, interesting.

>>106808630
no, just people who aren't experiencing hearing loss

>>106808615
I never understood driver types and configurations. There's clearly anecdotal evidence that points to difference. But I never seen it really explained for all of them.

>no soundstage is soundstage, it's ``intimate''
This is what people who buy $100 1DDs actually believe.

>>106808637
Listening at 120dB is mutually exclusive with not experiencing hearing loss.

Oh no, you've awoken the jeets. >>106808630

>>106808645
you implying that $300 DDs all have better soundstage and whatnot?

AWAKEN, MY JEETS
https://files.catbox.moe/7698jh.flac

>they've never experienced true expansive soundstage engineered by Moondrop(tm)
https://youtu.be/NVNmaEhRngE?si=7E2g9JLbg3sOz2Qc
If you don't own Illustrious or Twilight, you can quietly sit down shitposters

>>106808664
isn't this eclipsing the price of gold per oz

>>106808642
>never seen it really explained
Most aspects of audio are well-studied. All three of the OP guides link to scientific literature that explains how sound works.
We also know all about the history and use-cases for different micro driver types in the application of IEMs.
You should look beyond Reddit, Youtube comments, and newfag posters in this thread talking circles about outdated audiotard-broscience from decades past.
Information is out there on the internet, compiled and explained by people much better credentials and experience than the 2 shitposters in this niche thread.

>>106808731
why are your paragraphs so weird

>>106808684
>spending top dollar on moondrop
I mean no ill will, but go fuck yourself.

>>106808731
>We also know all about the history and use-cases for different micro driver types in the application of IEMs.
>compiled and explained by people much better credentials and experience than the 2 shitposters in this niche thread
Care to post all that then? As I said I'm clueless.

>>106808759
he won't, he can't even try to type like a white person

>>106808642
if you want a real answer, set aside $50, install the aliexpress app and buy some IEMs.

>>106805744
Finna order that tea, it's better be good

>just buy a dozen IEMs gweilo
>you'll surely get your answer by then

>>106808850
this unironically. you're getting a dozen IEMs for $50

>>106808759
chatgpt didn't give him links so he won't

>>106808759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YUdNFLefVk
This video is linked in the shopping guide. It also links to other content made by the channel, such as videos about "Do driver types matter?"
Try learning how to use a search engine to learn more about other topics like the history of drivers, etc.

>>106808883
That doesn't answer my question.

>>106808684
Stop telling them we need to gatekeep true DD endgame from the plebs

>>106808907
nigga i get them used from ebay, i ain't paying retail

>>106808895
Keep sitting their with your hands out and mouth open waiting to be spoonfed. I have better things to do than fetch links for you. Answers to your questions are out there, not sure why you're so resistant to going out and finding it.

>>106808922
smoke a joint lil bro. he's just askin

>your ChatGPT limit for today has been reached
>please try again tomorrow

Activate Claude.

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/iemg/ buying guide (2025 holidays edition)
$3 EDC Pro 1DD
$4 Celest Rue 1DD
$4 CVJ Luki 1DD+1vibrator
$7 Castor 2DD
$8 Sgor Venus 1DD
$10 PR2 1planar
$12 Rosefinch 1DD
$20 Lafitear LF3 Pro 1DD+1EST+1BA
$30 VX Pro+ 1DD+8BA
$23 TRN Lucky Bag (5 IEMs)

>>106808759
Don't listen to dumb retards.
To answer you first question
>Is there a scenario where hybrids are better than 1DD?
"better" is relative. The main purpose of hybrids is to achieve specific target without DSP. It's hard to tune 1DD to some targets.
>There's clearly anecdotal evidence that points to difference.
Here's a decent video about driver types
https://youtu.be/7fQCX4HeSJI
In short - tuning matters not driver type.

>>106808987
can you post suggestions for people who can't eq?

Don't read all this >>106809008
Buy all this >>106808987

>>106809013
>not EQing
buy headpos or a pair of speakers then

>>106809014
literally do not buy any of this shit just buy daybreak lol

>>106808759
>>106808895
if you want to get into the weeds:
>read a book on electroacoustics
>read the basic papers on aes
>watch the aes live videos on transducers from klippel
>read the presentations and tutorials from klippel
we are at a level where any llm will spit out bullshit that is based on headfi reviews from 2011

>>106809008
What about Planar bass decay? BA metallic timbre? X handling Y frequency range better etc.?

>>106809020
>uses speakers without room-eq

>>106809031
KZ proved all this doesn't exist.

>>106809031
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/myths-misconceptions/

>>106808987
>$20 Lafitear LF3 Pro 1DD+1EST+1BA
is this pos good? any other cheap hybrid pos like that?

>>106808916
imagine your friend telling you he just met a chick and you go, "LOL USED OFF EBAY WOW"

>>106809069
my dick is 8" i don't need IEMs to woo women

>>106809031
>What about Planar bass decay?
no such thing
>BA metallic timbre?
doesn't exist (and basically proven to be mental illness thanks to kz lol)
>X handling Y frequency range better etc
it's a matter of tuning. maybe you can say that some drivers are easier to tune for some ranges but it's like whatever.
all in all none of it matters. Differences from your fit depths and ear canal anatomy are much bigger than any of this.
Just try different IEMs and find one you like.

>>106809027
>based on headfi reviews from 2011
yet you glorify harman research. insanity

>>106809081
>spergs out over trannyman umprompted
uh you ok bud?

>>106809074
no, like...the chick is used....
lol

>>106809088
any woman is relatively unused for me idc

>>106809075
>no idea what I'm saying but here it is anyway
>>106809086
calling out bullshit isn't exactly sperging. he pushed AES like it's gospel, then shat on headfi. you can defend him all you want but now the two of you are retarded.

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>>106809068
no

>>106809101
you know aes =/= trannyman right?

>>106809101
you aren't calling out anything lmao you are just shitposting like a retard
>he pushed AES like it's gospel, then shat on headfi
research vs audiopedophiles
wow what a choice. get your head out of the gutter

>>106809118
>research vs audiopedophiles wow what a choice.
a commie would say that.

>poorfag so poor xhe can't even afford a cheap streetshitter priced aes subscription
sad...

>>106809126
this doesn't even mean anything....

>>106809131
>aes subscription
what goober is paying for that at any price?

FR isn't everything

>>106809159
people who want to learn more about acoustics and not audiophool retardation

>>106809184
>watch my youtube video sar don't forget to like... and subscribe do not buy it for yourself saar

>>106809176
you'll fail to name anything else that matters
also add 5 dB at 1k and tell me how it isn't everything

>>106809184
>people who want to learn more about acoustics
that ain't you.
>audiophool retardation
and there's you outing yourself, son.

>>106809202
driver quality.

don't talk unless you're an audio engineer buddy

>>106809219
audio "engineer" or audio engineer?

Do not buy any IEMs. They are chinks.
Watch my Youtube video it will tell you the scientific truth.
You are engaging in audiophool retardation. Stop wasting your money.
Don't forget to like and subscribe my video.
Thank you sir.
I appreciate it.

>>106809218
driver quality = FR

>be an audio engineer
>99% products in the market are crap
yeah, an audio engineer is just a janitor who was good enough for real engineering, kinda like dentists

Do not listen to the music

>>106809242
my EQ profile = FR

>>106809243
*wasn't

>insane asylum general

>>106809243
dentists are kinda based desu, they install mercury and aluminum into people's mouths and it evaporates and gives them both toxic metal poisoning. literally the most mentally ill profession

OH MY SCIENCE

>don't push AES as a gospel
>pushes his driver quality 4chan posts (made by chatgpt) as a gospel
what did he mean by that

Fission is so good, I feel like I should shill it more than I do.

>>106809242
holy hell boyo you're oblivious to the reality of manufacturing

>>106809528
/iemg/ monkeys don't deserve good sound

What is driver quality?

>>106809105
Oh look, another retard who didn't read the EQ guide.

>>106809550
distortion, FR, channel matching

>>106809553
nobody has ever read the eq guide

>>106809550
it's like how you use a filter to purify your sink water so you can drink it

guys what's the software that shows how sound waves bounce around in my pos?

>>106809550
Driver quality is anything over $75 and nothing under $30 unless it's Tanchjim

>>106809577
comsol?

Why the fuck do all jim's iems look like some sort of gay ass glamorous accessory for fags and women

>>106809593
because they are

>>106809577
solidworks?

>>106809593
>Why the fuck do all iems look like some sort of gay ass glamorous accessory for fags and women
ftfy

>>106809607
KZ is the only brand this doesn't apply for, especially the gamer looking ones and planars

>>106809630
kzs just make you look like a destitute third worlder instead

>>106809635
high test*

>>106809644
brownoid cope

>>106809553
I did actually. the fuck EQ guide has to do with some shit garbage pos?

What's the point of different nozzles and tuning filters again? Can't you just EQ and get the same result?

>>106809664
not brown, but if i had to choose between looking like a gamer and ppl thinking im a fag, yea

>>106809674
yes you can

>>106809682
caring what people think about you is a fag trait
they don't give a shit about you

>>106809669
no one has read the EQ guide

>>106809707
no we definitely yell faggot at ppl here kek

>>106809695
thanks obama

>>106809727
who is "we"

>>106809738
irl

>>106809753
?

>>106809759
y'know, where people can actually see how gay your jims look

>>106809716
EQ guide is irrelevant to my post
also you are a fag

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What is happening.

>>106809765
what the actual fuck are you talking about esl brownoid

>>106809780
>>106809593

>>106809789
we were talking about kzs

The jeet mind cannot comprehend the time domain.

>>106809802
show us 1 (one) measurement in the time domain

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>>106809607
*blocks your path*

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.
Deuteronomy 22:5

>>106809802
Gpt cannot comprehend any domain. "Magnitude FR", lmao!

xhe thinks the time domain is measurable without errors when the Heinserg's uncertainty principle exists. If you use the hour hand, you know the time (like the hour) very precisely, but you have little information about the minutes. If you use the minute hand, you can read the minutes with great precision but lose track of the hour.

>>106809867
>centuries of time domain data, lost to Heisenberg
curse you Mr. H!

>>106809867
>he can't read the minutes from the hour hand
zoomer detected

>>106809867
>realized he couldn't make it about the position and time since both are precisely known in a clock so posted pure brain rot instead

>>106809644
hey dubberinos I'm high too but I don't spew nonsense like FR=everything

>>106809926
third worlders have less test problems than westsissies, it's dumb to conflate them

Somebody needs to combine space domain, time domain, frequency domain and planar domain to become the Scizo Ascendant and create the ultimate iem.

>>106809988
KZ already sells this for $10

>>106809944
cope

>>106810005
ok *wears KZ gamer IEMs*

>>106809867
You think time domain is a frontier of audio. But actually it's the first audio measurement ever performed. Frequency response can't be measured directly, it must be computed. Impulse response can be measured with a gun. Actual audio engineers quickly realized impulse response is fucking useless and switched to frequency respose as soon as possible. You don't know anything.

>>106810020
lol melty. what are you, a psychic now?

>>106810023
smartest jeet in this thread

>>106810030
have ZEX

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>>106809988
Can't be the ultimate IEM without the fox domain.

>>106809867
>xhe thinks the time domain is measurable without errors when the Heinserg's uncertainty principle exists
you are so fucking retarded
well what margin of errors are we talking here then?? Is it in any way relevant to anything?
(the answer is no)

niggas talking about heisenberg's uncertainty principle when they don't even know what sigma-delta chips do

>anybody who's calling out my lack of scientific knowledge is a jeet
what did he mean by that?

>>106810102
faggot suddenly brining up uncertainty principle is the most hilarious shit ever lol
he's so stupid

>>106810102
You don't know either. You even think it's different from PCM when the math that governs them is exactly the same. They wouldn't call it a different name if it weren't the same, would they?

>>106810230
i accept you're concession

>>106810208
Uncertainty principle is related to Fourier transform. He just chose the wrong guy, since we're talking about DSP, not quantum mechanics.

heisenberg's uncertainty principle is why i'm deaf

I just got a cheap amplifier for my hd600's just to test if there was any difference, it may just be placebo but I think they do sound better than without. The problem is, how do I not destroy my hearing with these volumes? When using my phone with my cheap iems I just use the built in limit indicator, but at my pc with the amplifier I noticed I can get quite loud without noticing.

h****** l**

lol people are still buying 600pos

>>106810685
lower the volume

is heisenberg's uncertainty principle the reason why my wife's boyfriend has a bigger dick than mine

>>106809068
It's a nigger bass IEM. Probably the niggest of them all.

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Sound = air particles, which they vibrate to transport the sound. With every temperature difference, the particle's velocity changes.The time domain will always have errors. Is that too advanced for iemg?

>>106811116
The error is in your ear too retard.

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what happened to /hpg/ I don't see it in the catalog

I'm looking for a music player that is as small as (or smaller than) an ipod nano 3rd gen. I don't care about bluetooth or other things my phone does already. I just want enough storage space for multiple lossless album cd rips and a good internal dac by $CURRENT_YEAR standards, and preferably a 4.4mm bal output. Does this exist or only in my hopes and driams?

>>106811143
Obsolete.

>when the cold temp makes the sound brittle and lean
i prefer a nice 26 degrees celsius ambient room temp to keep my driver in a state of producing lush warm mids. also helps the copper cable stay fluid and transmit electrons more smoothly

>>106811116
That is some advanced cope for being unable to find 1 peak by ear.

>>106811143
you know you can start a thread... it's just that hpg ends up either a wireless/gaming thing or a stax guy spamming then it dies when muricans sleep cuz no SEA schizos like iemg

>>106811143
Died in the same way /iemg/ is dying right now, incessant bickering by egotistical pseudointellectuals making the threads worthless for anyone who actually cares about iems.

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>all of this shit flinging over graphs and measurements
I bet you haven't even had your own HRTF diffuse field measured

>>106811208
i have

>>106811208
Niggas will do anything except fucking listen.

>>106811145
shopping guide, look at specs.

>does nothing
>makes everyone mad
how does eq guide do it?

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>>106811177
>1 peak
Please, study more.

>>106811472
You can't hear above 8kHz, it's just 1 peak for you.

>>106811510
Below 8kHz too.

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why is PR2 so legendary, bros?

>>106811646
>qdc already cracked
o no no no

>>106811443
>does nothing
correct, nobody has read it

>>106811657
nahhh

>>106811116
you are retarded

>>106811912
:mirror:

>>106811472
>open earcanal
irrelevant

>>106811968
Please, study more.

>>106812000
study what?

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>>106812076
High school physics.

>>106812145
to do what? find driver quality instead of you cause you are unable to educate yourself without chatGPT whispering in your ear? what's your point?

>>106812285
So you might stop saying you can EQ one iem to another 1:1 by using your ear, and there's only 1 peak you need to find?

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>**NEW** Seeaudio SeeU, 1DD 4BA hybrid, "balanced, refined, precise" is the concept of it. Soundwise pretty on par with the Bravery AE, price unknown

this guy's been having a 24/7 meltdown because he can't eq by ear? and desires for some retarded reason to make one iem sound like another (instead of just making it sound good)? lmfao

>>106812330
is this dumb strawman your new angle?
wait... you do get that when you put IEM in your ear canal becomes closed? And normal resonances it has are destroyed?

i've been looking to replace my worse than e-waste pmp with either an innioasis y1, echo snowsky mini, or a used sony/sandisk pmp. which option would you guys recommend?
>inb4 use your phone

if two iems measure the same, they will sound the same
if two iems sound the same, they likely won't measure the same

>>106812499
Omg... chink... You gotta open your eyes and learn to read contexts. It was never about that, but the retard claims it's possible to match it 1:1 by ear. That's different from EQing to taste by ear :)) can you understand that simple logic?
>>106812509
>And normal resonances it has are destroyed?
LOL! See? You don't even understand how length mode resonances work. The pic was just a demonstration because I thought it'd be obvious, but with iems you'll have the half and full wavelength shifting that you can see in any insertion depth gif. It's not just 1 peak that you find.

>dood keep up with the intricacies of our anonymous shit flinging micropenis measuring contest ft. chatgpt
i'm good off that senpai

Why does DQ (driver quality) trigger the midwits so much??

AI is the future actually, chatGPT is smarter than all of you.

>>106812662
great, so why do you waste your time here? stick to chatgpt and youtubers

>>106812705
I'm just here to show support for Simzo.

>>106812597
>Omg... chink... You gotta open your eyes and learn to read contexts. It was never about that, but the retard claims it's possible to match it 1:1 by ear. That's different from EQing to taste by ear :)) can you understand that simple logic?
uuum no no
It's not about that at all? It's about you being unable to explain what driver quality is. And YOU coming up with a thought experiment of EQing 2 pos to each other(or the same target) via graphs and then claiming that the difference you will hear is due to driver quality.
And when called out instead of trying to understand the problem you just fall apart and run to chatGPT for help

>>106812662
chatGPT is a stupid as fuck chat bot. This was clearly demonstrated even in this very thread.

>>106812710
>has a parasocial relationship with a random fag in a niche thread about ear speakers
yikes. try getting a life instead of spamming 4chan posts

>>106812725
Me and Simzo will hang out IRL where we'll have fun laughing at you.

>>106812597
>LOL! See? You don't even understand how length mode resonances work. The pic was just a demonstration because I thought it'd be obvious, but with iems you'll have the half and full wavelength shifting that you can see in any insertion depth gif. It's not just 1 peak that you find.
Demonstration of what? What would be obvious? Elaborate.
>It's not just 1 peak that you find.
how many then? where? and why? also elaborate

>>106812710
EA500LLM lol. and thanks.

>>106812723
>This was clearly demonstrated even in this very thread.
you wish. if more anons used it here, there'd be less dogma and lies here. and don't act like this place is holy. it's absolute containment and you know it.

what was that Russian literal ear dildo thing called? i think there was a similar looking kbear from eins ago that looked similar.

>>106812769
We already have enough larping retards here lol. We don't need more larping but now with a chatbot flavor.
>there'd be less dogma and lies here
dogma? lies? such as?
do you even know the meaning of words you are using?

>>106812809
>dogma? lies? such as?
>do you even know the meaning of words you are using?
you know this place has been actual containment a solid month or so now, right? no real conversations, constant picking fights and "i know my shit you're deaf" circle jerking. chatgpt is to shut foxbum up and anybody else that brings up minimum phase and can't accept the concept of driver quality. quit pretending this place is thriving.

gotta admit, this retard's got some grit

>>106812866
More like it's been a solid month of people dunking on driver quality retard (you).
Using chatGPT in an argument is instant disqualification. Especially when you are trying to use it sneakily (and failing).
>chatgpt is to shut foxbum up and anybody else that brings up minimum phase and can't accept the concept of driver quality
but this didn't happen even ONCE. chat gpt doesn't know anything about audio. I can ask grok right now and it will tell me that IEMs are minimum phase.
>Are In-ear monitors minimum phase? and what does it mean
>In audio and signal processing, a minimum phase system is a type of linear time-invariant filter or device where the phase response is uniquely determined by its magnitude (frequency) response, resulting in the minimum possible group delay for a given amplitude response. (audiosciencereview.com)
It will literally google same exact sources we will (but not actual research cause he's fucking retarded)
>Yes, in-ear monitors (IEMs) are generally considered minimum phase devices, particularly in the audible frequency range. (forum.hifiguides.com). This holds true for both single-driver and multi-driver designs, though with some nuances
>Single-driver IEMs: These are widely accepted as minimum phase systems due to their simple design without crossovers, allowing the full behavior (including phase) to be described by the frequency response, impulse response, and distortion measurements alone
>Multi-driver IEMs: These also behave as minimum phase in practice, thanks to the extremely small physical spacing between drivers (typically a few millimeters, far below audible wavelengths like 1.7 cm at 20 kHz), which minimizes issues like comb filtering. Crossover networks in IEMs are designed to keep phase deviations low enough that they can be safely omitted for most audio applications, such as EQ or sound analysis.
See? ChatGPT is not an argument

>>106812866
>quit pretending this place is thriving
what do you want little bitch? totlzos posting about cables? chuzos arguing about linear phase on dacs?

>>106812866
so why don't you fight the guy buying a bunch of dogshit driver quality and spamming 24/7? you're radio silent when his posts flood the thread.
but one guy who posts a picture of his epz q1 pro triggers your assblasting? you know epz q1 pro has excellent driver quality right? why are you seething about a good iem?

>>106812866
bumzo is cancer and simzo is chemo

>>106812866
>quit pretending this place is thriving.
You are literally arguing with your own retarded ideas. I don't give a fuck if this shit place is "thriving" or not.
But I will not stop calling out dumb fucking retards like yourself who are literally delusional and lying about things like driver quality or how audio works simply because you are too fucking stupid to read a fucking book.
Now you are fucking crying about how thread is "contaminated".. when YOU are actual contamination and the problem

>>106812926
>why are you seething about a good iem?
you never saw me shit on an epz pos, ever. don't mix up anons, makes you look like a kook.

still can't get past gptzo bringing up heisenberg, that shit is hilarious

>>106812644
they can't afford it. they're poor. /iemg/ has been poorfags feeling sorry for themselves for years.

>>106812938
reading books is cool but what about that eq guide that nobody has ever read

>>106812938
if this is how uppity you'll keep getting, I'm staying :)

>>106812958
nta. unless that guy was using chatgpt..either way don't mix up anons.

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this one iem mindbroke him so hard

heisenberg's uncertainty principle is why I've never had sex

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superior driver quality, why does it make them mad?

>>106812969
well whoever it was deserves a pat on the back, haven't laughed that much in a while

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So, I just tried the Fiio FT1 and it mogs all IEMs. The combination of excellent comfort (not an ear dildo), pleasant tuning (no chink treble cannons) and natural pinna and ear canal interaction (no length mode resonance rape) is something no IEM can match. It's over.

>>106812962
You can always ask chatGPT to summarize it for you

>>106812994
i tried them too. returned them because of the thin bass and treble spice. congrats on being deaf, here is your headpos law award

>>106812998
i asked chatgpt and it said even though it was an ai summarizing it would count as reading it and nobody has ever or will ever read it so it couldn't do it

>>106812963
see? the moment you are pressed you are falling apart

was afraid that the year might end without seeing someone on the level of chuzo delusions but i'm glad i was wrong

>>106813002
Based hearing loss anon

>>106813002
thin bass? ft1 has a fuckton of bass wtf are you on about?

>>106813004
screenshot or it didn't happen

>>106813020
you must not know about driver quality lol.
as a closed back headphone, it graphs with some bass.
upon actual listening, it is low quality bass. sounds like a paper bag flapping in the wind. no body or depth. then add on the mid treble zing, and it contributes to a thin, overly hot sound.

>>106813032
returned them.

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>>106813032
its over

>>106812988
excellent dubs and yeah...it threw me off too.

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>>106811646
luv me pr2 simple as. the $8 iem is worth the $11 cable and $175 resistor dongle and 30% of phone battery life. I will always brush it and clean my ears for it <3

..Grok is so fucking stupid... You can convince it of anything.
>Diminishing returns rule: At $10-20, you've hit 90-95% of flagship performance—advances in Chinese manufacturing (e.g., better PET damping, precise voicing) make "cheap" drivers excellent nominally. My $150 "budget" nod was relative to premiums ($500+), but yeah, it's outdated; $20 is the new baseline.
Guess that settles it? lmao

>>106813084
@grok is this real?

>>106813042
>you must not know about driver quality lol.
FT1 has excellent driver quality
>upon actual listening
there's literal fuckton of "actual listening" examples aka reviews that all praise its bass

>>106813084
confirmed by megagrok: no need to spend more than $20
poorfags vindicated

>>106813044
that's crazy

>>106813078
I can imagine your dongle being having a higher noise floor than mine. r2r is a meme

>>106813084
Every audiopedophile knows diminishing returns hit at exactly the point things start becoming too expensive for you. Not before, not after.

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>>106813109

>>106813108
do you also imagine your woman being fucked by black men?

>>106813111
checked

>>106813108
~~being~~

>>106813111
trip of trvth

>>106813111
Holy trips

>>106813115
it's because that's what they do. at the very least r2r is a meme for dongles and pos. very least

>>106813131
what else you imagine? does it involve black men and female family members? asking for my wife's boyfriend xister

>>106813132
I imagine people buying that K11 r2r as both a dac and amp are higher than me and coping super hard. and the ones that buy it just to use it with another amp are coping harder. I honestly can't make this shit up at this point.

>>106813143
you've been making a LOT of shit up, write me a cuck fanfic next

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>>106813115
You don't? It thought it was normal

>>106813169
>>106813169

>>106813109
the actual take away here should be that nobody should waste their time talking to glorified chatbots

>>106812662
You can upload a picture of your ear and ChatGPT will tell you where your resonance peaks are.

>>106812866
>accept the concept of driver quality.
Everyone knows Sonion BAs are smoother sounding than Knowles BAs, even if they graph similarly.

>>106813183
chatgpt > peqdb > squig > charts > my youtube videos > eq guide > /iemg/
in order of factual accuracy

So what time does Prime Day start? East Coast time or West Coast? It's 8.43 PM here, I gotta wait til midnight?