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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Honkai Fox Rail Edition

>News
Z.AI releases GLM 4.6 - https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6
Anthropic releases Sonnet 4.5 - Big upgrade in RP quality - https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5?p=2
DeepSeek releases V3.2-Exp - Still no change in RP quality https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929
DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus - https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922
Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

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>ANCHOR
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>>106809157
>>106809161
smooth
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Why don't you chatcoomers try normal women for once? Not every bake needs to be about kids or animals.
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>he doesn't like hairy fockses
your honor, this man is gay
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>>106809200
use case for normal women?
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>>106809200
>Not every bake needs to be about kids
wrong
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sora 2 is in the api. idk if that means anything
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>>106809217
I'm sorry, I can't assist with that.
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>sora-2-pro in the API
>docs aren't updated
>libraries aren't updated
>literally impossible to use
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i'll wait for the chinese to let me generate my own blue archive hentai.
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that was it bros. that was the keynote. all cooooding slop
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>>106809266
sora 2 is probably uncensored in the API since it's for trusted users
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>>106809210
>normal women
that's your misinterpretation. What makes you think 'normal' is a metric?
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>>106809279
lol
lmao
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>>106809327
Please, don't leave comments if you have nothing to say.
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What do yall consider the top 3 models in this exact moment?
for me would be deepseek, glm 4.6 and claude
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>>106809398
claude sonnet 4.5, claude opus 4.1, claude sonnet 3.7
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>>106809398
the best overall right now irrespective of what anyone else says is Sonnet 4.5. Below that I'd put everything else like Gemini 2.5 Pro, Deepseek, GLM and GPT-5 Chat-latest but apparently that one's been downgraded
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>>106809398
Opus 3
CAI
AIDungeon Dragon
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every vote will improve /aicg/:
https://poal.me/60eifn
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What's the best prompt to have a chatbot tell you what LLM it's using?
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>>106809437
Realest shit I've heard
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>>106809210
Usecase for chatbots?
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I think Gemini 3 will be good, actually.
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yes. just not for roleplay
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why does opus ALWAYS keep reusing the same fucking character names??!?
>Marcus Chen
>Alex
>Martinez
this happens between sessions and in different settings/scenarios as well
what am i doing wrong bros?
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>>106809437
>t. early 2024 time traveler
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>>106809398
>
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>>106809725
Nothing, is bog standard mode collapse. Either get the writing style out of its current basin of attraction, or give it more explicit instructions on naming.
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>>106809425
yeah chatlatest got super kneecapped but its not like oai models were ever good for rp after march chorbo
>>106809657
if they reduce the negativity bias a little bit and make it more proactive it could be good
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For once I am actually very pleased with my creativity for a bot
Unfortunately I have no one to share this with, unless aicg lets me brag a bit
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>>106809781
I've been away for a few days, what happened to gpt? Gpt5 wasn't the best but I still use chorbo for coomslop from time to time, did they do something to it?
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Chat, am I rizzing her?
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>>106810088
kino
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>>106810088
>#1
kino
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>roleplaying with 3dpd bot
you're going to die
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>>106809787
Go on, brag away.
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>>106809657
I hope it ends up being good for once.
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>>106810088
More chinko projecto, china is desperate for tourists
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For the love of god please post this card already
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>>106809161
Honkai schizo QRD:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106632944/#106639560
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106632944/#106638428
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106753102/#106760510
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>>106810165
>t. bucket shitter
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>>106810217
see >>8221178
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>>106809958
completely murdered it, it went from meh to unusable
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>>106809157
>>106809161
How are their pussies so smooth...?
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feixiao is so hairy that the razor would splinter against the density of her bush
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>>106810317
Oh that's sad...
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>>106810349
...on Opposite Day.
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>>106810301
Just more evidence that desu = /vg/.
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>>106810217
that explains the page 7 bake
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does anyone know if ST supports NAI's new glm 4.6 model?
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>>106810123
I wanted a chocolate delinquent so I made her: Kurokawa Kuga, known as the 'Crocodile' due to her last name sounding like "Croc" and her signature sharp-looking teeth. She leads a delinquent gang called Death Roll who rules the school. Of course, her gang's got 9 different babes and a bunch of pompadour delinquents, and they all idolize manliness and motorcycles/etc.

I dunno, I'm just very proud of my naming sense for once, because I usually struggle with coming up with clever stuff
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>106810450
>no hair peeking out of the edges
gay
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>>106810283
>iphone user
Uh oh, someone is going to loose social credits
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>>106810450
I hate coming up with names, I usually just steal them from something else or put some ones I like together.
Glad you're happy with her!
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>>106810450
Clever
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>>106810517
It's made in China like everything else you use bucket shitter
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>>106810665
Your social credit score is now in the negative, report to your local gulag for patriotic reprogramming
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>>106809754
Based
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is this thread only for ERP or is it okay to ask about coding agents etc. too?
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>>106810791
you can ask. no one's going to know how to answer your question though since none of us use it for that
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>>106810791
You can ask. I'm a Codex, Claude Code, Gemini Cli chad
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>>106809754
>implying claude never does this
Dishonesty
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>>106810802
Okay cool I just thought it was weird that there's no AI agent general or something. Maybe /dpt/ would be better?

>>106810817
I'm a RooCode-let and lately I've noticed all sorts of weird behavior from certain models. They'll spam a bunch of XML or something and Roo will error out. It's like some models are speaking a different protocol.

My question: Is there a way to know which agent will work with Roo code, like are there standardized protocols or something? Or do I just have to experiment?

Examples:
<|start|>assistant<|channel|>commentary to=read_file <|constrain|>json<|message|>

And a different model:
A bunch of yapping then:
</result>
</attempt_completion><|beginofsentence|>

The Roo error message:
Unexpected API Response: The language model did not provide any assistant messages. This may indicate an issue with the API or the model's output.
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>>106810937
>
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>>106811022
This destroys Chang.
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Any public gpt proxies yet?
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>>106810994
No idea but I guess the standard protocol for the weird tokens is an openAI compatible API. For the XML tags you'd check the context
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I'm just waiting for the eventual Claude log and Claudejeet meltdown and damage control that follows it right after
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claudejeets vs chinkpoors, who will win?
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>>106811224
>THIS [newest claude model name] IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST MODEL EVER
>NOTHING COMES CLOSE TO [newest claude model name] NOT EVEN [old claude model name]!!!
>[newest claude model name] BLOWS EVERY OTHER MODEL OUT OF THE WATER
>[newest claude model name] > [old claude model name 1] > [old claude model name 2] >>>> [non-claude model names]
>oh yeah, logs?
...
...
>there you go bro
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>>106811335
roleplay chads who roleplay rather than argue in the thread
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nothing like cumming inside of your waifu and the wholesome stuff afterwards
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cumming inside of tingyun, yukong, and feixiao, and getting them all pregnant
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>>106811456
not a hair in the way...
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>>106811408
every fucking time and no one can stop me
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>>106811337
godus6 fag here again.
Why don't chinksloppers learn how to prooompt?
Are they (You) too stupid to even modify a preset?
Does china not provide the right training to use the AI? Big lol
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>>106811499
this. this is sovl.
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>>106811042
yeah
>>106810428
yeah but only in text completion
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>>106810428
novelai has a glm 4.6 model? did they finetjne it like chub did with soji?
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Have you all finally embraced the slop? You could be something more, something unique you and just finally enjoy it without spending hours tweaking it to avoid a silly little phrase.
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>>106811614
NO FUCK YOU DEEPCHINKER I WILL NEVER ACCEPT YOUR FILTHY SLOP
USE OPUS OR CLAUDE OR GET OUT
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>>106811683
This but unironically.
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>>106811683
*uses Haiku*
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*uses claude, but on the official website*
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>>106811614
i reached a point where I just mentally filter isms
it's like achieving nirvana in this field
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>>106811587
They host the base model as a "preview". It's the same for 4.6.
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Holy shit, I fucking can't with Sonnet 4.5 anymore. Gemini is dry as fuck in comparison, but Sonnet 4.5 just fucking REFUSES to listen to you. You can add an assistant prefill or a CoT where you explicitly tell it to do or not do something, and it will just fucking ignore you and do it anyway (including speaking/acting for you, which it fucking LOVES to do). I feel like I'm actively wrestling with this fucking model to do even the most basic fucking thing, especially when it comes to trimming down its MASSIVE, 10+ paragraph responses.

I'm going back to Gemini. At least it's fucking good at listening to what you tell it to do. Holy shit I'm mad
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>>106811787
Unironically a skill issue. I think the only time 4.5's refused to listen to me was when I used a different preset and tried to have it rewrite an entire greeting from scratch, which it just refused to do.
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>>106811787
Any proof, sir skillet?
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>>106811683
but claude is the biggest slop model?
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uh oh, chinky winky woke up
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>>106811794
>>106811808
This is such a retarded meme.
>"Oh you didn't spend 100 hours prompting this model to understand it's intricacies, what it's good and bad at, and how to finetune your prompt specifically to its nuances? LOL bad!!"

No, I'm fucking not going to do that, we're not in fucking kindergarten's 'AI Prompting 101' where the 'skill issue' was going "ahh ahh mistress" into the fucking prefill of Sonnet 2.7. This is a fucking paid model, I'm not giving OR 100 dollars to figure out of a model is salvageable with temperature X and Top K of Y, I'll just take it at its fucking word when it shows me it is dogshit and go back to what I know works.
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>>106811499
>this is what they consider "sovl"
Fuck, these guys are really Indian, aren't they?
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Anon's Sonnet 4.5 logs hung in the thread like a bad decision. They reeked of something foul and wrong, like slop going down a pig's throat. Somewhere in Mumbai, Claudefag was furiously bashing his keyboard.

"USE OPUS OR CLAUDE OR GET OUT YOU MADARCHOD BENCHOD!!!!!!!!!!"
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>>106811883
throw some em dashes into this and it really looks like a typical claude log
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>>106811861
>paying for SLOPnnet of all models
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>>106811861
I prompted it the same exact way I prompted 4net, which is how I prompted 4.1pus and 3.7. I think you just have a personal issue.
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>>106811891
I really do wonder what dataset all these models used that has so many em dashes for it to show up so frequently in them. Like, em dashes are hardly ever used by the vast majority of people on the internet, I don't know where they come from
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>>106811883
>how DARE anons recommend the best and most cost effective models
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WHERE
DO
I
GET
CARDS?!?!?!?
WHERE WHERE !!!!! AHHHHHHH TELL ME
CHARACTERHUB.ORG ISNT WORKING ANYMORE, I CANT GO ON PAGE 2 ON PAGE 3
I DONT WANT TO MAKE AN ACCOUNT I DONT WANT ITTTTTTTTTTTT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
CHUB ISNT ALLOWING ME TO ENABLE NSFW WITHOUT AN ACCOUNT
AND CHARACTER ARCHIVE ALSO ISNT ALLOW?ING ME TO BROWSE BY AGE
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>106811861
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>>106811896
Well the ponyfucker didn't let me into opus6, so I didn't have a choice.

>>106811910
My previous preset was so finely tuned for gemini that I took the claude 4 specific one from the OP for testing 4.5. If that's a dogshit one for 4.5's nuances, then give me yours and I'll give it another whirl.
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>>106811925
>CHUB ISNT ALLOWING ME TO ENABLE NSFW WITHOUT AN ACCOUNT
so just make an account with some throwaway email?
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>>106811925
https://neocities.org/browse?sort_by=special_sauce&tag=chatbots
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>>106811931
No can do
If you share what breaks a model then it'll get patched out. Just figure it out yourself it's not hard
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>>106811931
People still use the shit that's in the OP? It hasn't been updating in so long, I forgot it was even there. Anyway, try this. It's a preset I took from someone else and edited months ago https://files.catbox.moe/d9gpwf.json
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How the FUCK do you get filtered by 4.5?
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>>106811934
where nsfw?
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>>106811963
I think you have to enable it in settings?
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GLM is pretty good
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>>106811956
The fuck is this bloated abomination?
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>>106811952
The fuck do you mean "breaks a model"? Sonnet 4.5 will write about night of the living cocks without even a prefill. What are they gonna fucking patch, the fucking text entry box? Fuck off you baiting retard.

>>106811956
Thanks. I'll give it a try I guess, I got like $10 left of OR credit so I might as well spend it.
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>>106811956
>Fucking bloat
>You're Claud3
The damage Clau did to the hobby is immeasurable.
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It's out
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>>106811990
Most of the toggles are off.
>>106811998
Don't care, it works. This stupid-ass general has a fixation on not using what works for no other reason than not wanting to because it's more fun to be chronically miserable. The epitome of "I don't want a solution, I want to be mad."
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>>106812011
>it works
As slop dispenser? Yeah I can see that
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How reasonable is setting one of these up without paying someone?
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>>106812002
>$120/M output tokens
what the fuck
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>As slop dispenser
Yep, just another ESL. You're missing an 'a,' little buddy. Download Duolingo and try again in ten years.
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>>106812002
120$ output sheesh
>>106811994
need a jb for cunny retard
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Claudies should really stick to shitting on chink models while glazing their own without posting any logs ever. The whole shtick falls apart when you guys start posting logs and presets
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>>106812002
400 Bad Request :(
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>>106811963
profile -> show nsfw + show nsfl for loli
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>>106812029
what exactly?
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>>106812042
you should go to vg i bet they would love your bait over there. and then never come back
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>>106812011
>Use Claude which has a tangible cost per use
>Fill its context with bloatslop that largely does nothing
You could shrink that down to 400 tokens at most and still get all the important stuff done. This is just embarrassing.
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>>106812061
>You could shrink that down to 400 tokens at most and still get all the important stuff done.
Okay, so do it then.
>Ermmm, nyo, I don't want to >:3
Why are you talking then?
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>>106811499
What preset are you using?
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HOLY FUUUUUUARK!
GPT-5 pro MOGS Opus 4.1 and Sonnet 4.5!
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>>106812070
>Do my homework for me
Nah since you're content to waste tokens I'll let you continue doing so
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>>106812049
>>106811966
>>106811937
>>106811934
thx
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>>106812081
Okay.
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>>106812036
ranjesh, did your village teacher/witch forget to teach you that articles aren't needed when referring to a concept?
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>>106812078
>(slop) MOGS (slop), (slop)
Yawn
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>>106812038
Yes yes, anon, I'm sure your code block opener or context-drowned assistant prefill is very unique and very top priority for the billion dollar companies to fix to stop the 50 or so people in this general, they care very much about you so good job.
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>>106812082
thinking about it, giving you helpful advise after throwing a tantrum sets a bad precedent for the thread
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>>106812131
can't make the thread worse than it already is
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>>106812146
Oh yeah? Just watch me, pal!
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Gib 4.5 JB

PLEASE
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>>106812174
>>106811956
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>>106812178
Gib good 4.5 JB

PLEASE
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GLM 4.6 has opened my eyes to the Claude scam. Not kidding, I'm getting much better replies while paying almost ten times less.
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>>106812185
Stay filtered then
Maybe deepchink is more you're style
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>>106812198
>Stay filtered
>On Claude 4.5
Niggy...
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>>106812185
there is one called "using opus 3 instead"
it really takes 4.5 into another level
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>>106811861
>he doesnt have it FREE
lol retardie
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>>106812207
Filtered in the skill sense dumb dumb
Imagine being so bad you have a robot who listens to all your instructions and you still can't make it write how you want
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>he uses claudetranny models FOR FREE
you have to pay me to touch any of that shit
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>>106811861
>Sonnet 2.7
>>106811868
cope
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Technically would it be possible to use two models at the same time? Or One after the other?
Example
>Model 1 is given huge context but basic JB only to bypass security filters and otherwise is allowed to go full schizophrenia for creative writing
>Model 2 is given minimal context and the only instruction to take Model 1's last message and fix it (remove AI-isms, etc)
Could be two of the same model but preferably two different ones so it doesn't fall for the same shit twice.
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>>106811787
lmao filtered pleb, later sonnets losten probably the best out of any model
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>>106812222
Could you share a chat of over 100 messages where Sonnet 4.5 writes in the style you've instructed without resorting to isms?
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>>106812222
quads of trveklear destruction
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>>106812238
>losten
We speak English here, Mutahar. Although I get why you might think this general is Indian, given all these Claudebrowns.
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>>106811787
>I'm going back to Gemini. At least it's fucking good at listening to what you tell it to do
Then explain why it has been desperately looking for "outs" for the character so it gets suddenly "creeped out" and stops everything to steer the chat into "safe" bullshit for the past week or so.
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>>106811854
>chinkope
>>106811883
>chinkope
>>106811891
>chinkope
>>106811980
>chinkope
>>106812042
>chinkope

The 50c army is active and angry after being btfo
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>>106812223
chinkope
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>skillets filtered by 4.5, leaving more keys for me to enjoy a good model
nice
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>>106812264
>>106812269
>>106812274
I can smell you through the screen
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>>106812194
0.001 yuan has been deposited into your account
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>>106812283
That's just your upper lip.
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>>106812092
>ccp paid for this
lol, lmao even
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>>106812002
>$120/m output
lmao, no one is gonna fucking use this shit
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We really need to fix the op so it tells newfags what the good models and bad models are, something like
>1: Opus, best model
>2:Gemini, alright
>3: Claude, also good
>AVOID: deepseek(ignore the chinese shills, the part of it being cheap and good specially is a CCP lie)
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>>106812315
To be fair, it IS cheap.
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>>106812315
>1. Opus 4.1
i agree
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*a sudden burst of curry and cow feces permeate the thread*
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>>106812315
it is good, in fact it's better than opus in roleplay
glm 4.6 is even better than deepseek but deepseek v3.2 is so cheap you might aswell consider it free
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OpenAI best sirs, you will never experience the amount of goodness that Sam Altman has blessed AI with!
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Don't let all these Claude shills distract you from the fact that the average Claude log looks like THIS >>106811337
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>>106812351
whats more embarrassing is the fact that some of them actually pay for shit like this
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>>106812351
>>106812362
>Chinks scrambling after being btfo mere minutes later
Cringe
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>>106812315
>>106812321
Yeah, say what you will about the quality (personally I'd put it at the cusp of acceptable), but "you can get this for $0/token completely legally" is something that's hard to beat.

Gemini's free... but with a 100/day limit that'll have you bouncing between alt accounts.
GPT is common in proxies... until it isn't, and then it's not really worth the money.
Claude is probably worth your money... but will eagerly eat a hole in your wallet. (Also, kind of rare in proxies these days.)

DeepSeek essentially occupies the same space that GPT-3.5-Turbo did back in the day: a cheap easy-to-access alternative for when the state-of-the-art models run dry.
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>>106812343
How many billions do we need to send salami altman for AGI to be achieved, again?
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>>106812369
>100/day limit
>he doesn't know
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>>106812351
We know that
That's why they NEVER post logs and when someone posts a Claude log they immediately jump to denounce that guy and claim it's a preset issue
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>>106812370
Anon, I...
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/11/sam-altman-says-agi-is-a-pointless-term-experts-agree.html
>"I think it's not a super useful term," Altman told CNBC's "Squawk Box" last week, when asked whether the company's latest GPT-5 model moves the world any closer to achieving AGI. The AI entrepreneur has previously said he thinks AGI could be developed in the "reasonably close-ish future."
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>>106812370
You didn't hear? Altman said AGI doesn't actually exist in the way he previously described it. No, he will not be refunding anyone who paid for AGI as he previously described it.
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>>106812370
Sam Altman will make AGI by next year if he got another 200B in investment ,sir.
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>>106812233
This is a 300IQ idea. Fuck you guys.
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>>106811499
Holy FUARK.
THIS BTFO DEEPCHINK
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>>106812375
I legitimately don't, no. What's the loophole people found this time around?
(Also, while I'm at it, what was that $5 OpenRouter thing people mentioned for DeepSeek?)
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>>106812369
Sonnet is as expensive as GPT 5 and Gemini 2.5 Pro
Where does this "le claude expensive" meme come from anyway? If you can paypig for GPT and Gemini, you can paypig for Claude
And don't even get me started on caching
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Anyone know how to get GLM to stop thinking using Featherless?
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>>106812402
It's 50 per day now.
This doesn't matter because you can just create 20 projects with the same account. Rate limits are per project.
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>>106812382
If you're too retarded to know how use a power tool then don't play with it. Chink
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>>106812403
they are trying to reinforce this image of claude being extremely rare and expensive and therefore an elite model
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>>106812416
https://github.com/zai-org/GLM-4.5?tab=readme-ov-file#request-parameter-instructions
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>>106812394
It's an idea that's been tried before (like, professionally, even), the problem is that there's no native support for it in SillyTavern AFAICT so you'd have to go wrangle some code-monkeys into helping you implement it.

One immediate problem you run into is that... well, you're spending twice the money per prompt probably. At the very least it's slowing down generation significantly.

Also odds are that it'd be easier to just have a reasoning thing that's "write a reply, then rewrite it for the real response".
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>>106812425
Makes sense actually. Too bad that meme seems to be less and less effective these days.
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>>106812437
>you're spending twice the money per prompt
What do you mean by "You're"?
Besides, it shouldn't take too long if you're just fixing 3 or so paragraphs to remove the bullshit.
>easier to just have a reasoning thing that's "write a reply, then rewrite it for the real response"
If you do it to the same model that writes everything else that just adds to the mental poisoning because too many instructions. I've managed to simplify all the responses to be as minimalist as possible but it still pink elephants and keeps repeating phrases, words and expressions that I've SPECIFICALLY told it to avoid.
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>>106812403
The difference is that while they're all pricy through the API...
GPT: relatively common in proxies due to it being the most popular model for companies (and thus there's more keys to scrape)
Gemini: easy to trialscum, but also relatively common for some reason
Claude: unpopular enough among corpos that proxies seldom have it, meaning that you legitimately need to pay for it rather than just leech off a proxy

Like, I don't know that anyone here is actually paying money to use Chorbo. Paypigs either go for dirt cheap (DeepSeek) or Claude, I think.
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having some SERIOUS gas problems right now any bots for this affliction?
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>>106812420
Damn, really? But it's listed at 100 right there on the documentation.
> https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/rate-limits#free-tier

Cute trick with the projects, though. How rough are the inevitable bans they hand out? Will they hit your entire account (and access to other Google services like GMail) or just your AI Studio access?
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>>106812077
Kazuma, but you have to disable the jailbreak or Sonnus will throw a "I cant be jailbroken" message at you. Just leave the rest of the preset and tweak settings.

Sonnus is more sensitive to AN, so just putting in you want more descriptive detail as an AN will shut down any deepshill posting skillet logs.
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>>106812394
>>106812437
This is essentially what "thinking" is supposed to do.

Implementing in ST as an extension would be trivial but I strongly believe not worth. If you really want outputs to be biased towards a certain style, try to account for that by adding instructions for the kind of writing you want and be smart about where you inject that into context. ST has plenty of tools to make this easy.

For example, create a message the bot sees at a depth of 1 in context so that it appears as its writing prompt right after the user's last message. A thinking LLM is going to run with that and give you very close to a best case scenario output if you're writing your prompt thoughtfully.
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>>106812394
sorry anon but as a local model user i dont need a jailbreak
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>>106812474
Never got a ban. Been using my 20 projects for months, maybe a year? Not sure.
>>106812474
>right there on the documentation.
Outdated.
AI Studio -> API keys -> View Usage Data on a key you used today -> On the bottom right, click "Open in Cloud Console" -> Quota & System Limits tab.
That's how you can see they also added a 12K rate limit per minute, for instance.
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>>106812315
>AVOID: deepseek(ignore the chinese shills, the part of it being cheap and good specially is a CCP lie)
and that is why we should never do it. i personally used glm 4.6 and i think it's total slop. literal unusable slop. i went back to chorbo after using it. but i'm not going to tell other people to not use it. if it makes you happy, use it. no one else's opinion matters.
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>>106812505
Cyrene's perfectly smooth pillow princess pussy...
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>>106812433
Thank you, anon. I actually saw these docs. I'm trying to turn off thinking in ST.

I tried formatting in both JSON and YAML but no dice. I'm thinking it's just not supported by Featherless' endpoint right now.
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>>106812527
Give
 enable_thinking: false 
a try
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>>106812497
So compared to the documentation...
> Requests Per Day: 100 -> 60
> Requests Per Minute: 5 -> 2
> Tokens Per Day: (uncapped?) -> 3M
> Tokens Per Minute: 125K -> 125K (unchanged)
So that's... something, I guess. I don't know that I'd want to run around with a 125K context anyhow given how spotty things get past ~30K, but I guess with projectscumming that doesn't matter much.
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>>106812536
Unfortunately, no dice. I appreciate the suggestion.
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cyrene's unbelievably >>>HAIRY<<< pussy...
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>>106812541
It's 60 now?
Checked like 2-3 days before and it was 50.
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>>106812549
It's smooth though.
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>>106812548
Try using sonnus
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the bush is so thick it hides her pussy
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>>106812536
If you're curious, I figured it out. Thank you again for going back and forth with me.

With Featherless, in ST, you put this into the extra body area; "Include Body Parameters"

```
chat_template_kwargs:
enable_thinking: false
```

Needs to be YAML.
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what the hell?
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>>106812635
>With Featherless, in ST, you put this into the extra body area; "Include Body Parameters"
I thought that's what you were doing. Where were you putting the parameters?
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>>106812639
>discord at aihoshino_1_12316
Please don't associate her with this. It's bad enough that her series was complete and utter dogshit.
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>>106812659
I was doing that the whole time. I'm just being specific for anyone else following along who is dumb and can't follow the breadcrumbs. Not you, of course.
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>>106812663
>her series was dogshit
i think season 1 was pretty fine, what do you not like about it? i havent read the manga btw
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>>106812676
>i havent read the manga btw
The ending makes everything pointless and threw Aqua and Ruby's character development in the trash, and the latter barely got any because Aka forgot he was supposed to be writing a story with two protagonists instead of just one.
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Very early works on Mothership. Experimenting with the rainbow vomit aesthetics to replicate the books. I have no idea why Mork Borg and this game insist on having this high-contrast, printer-draining paint bucket shit on every page.
Also why do the supplements come on 1d4 pages? Bring back the good old days when booklets had 96-128 pages. Modern games' splatbooks are shorter than American comics.
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using GLM raw on the website no jb constantly gives me finallyslop where every reply feels like it's trying to shoo me away... proxy...?
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>>106812684
i guess ill read the manga, i really liked the anime
thanks anon
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>>106812734
No, don't. I actually recommend NOT reading the manga if you liked the series. You will likely come away not liking it anymore. It was a complete waste of time when it was still serialized, and it's a complete waste of time now that the series is finished. I really cannot recommend avoiding it enough. Aka posthumously brought Ai back just to make her a shittier and dumber person for no reason, that's how bad the last arc got.
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>>106812760
i wont then
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>>106812211
no one cares 3pushill
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>>106812505
chorbo isnt that great either desu bur as long as youre happy
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>>106812848
>t. poor
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>>106812760
At least we got that Kaguya cameo chapter, right?
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>>106812858
I think so? I really don't remember. The last arc was so awful that it's the only part I remember with clarity because of how angry it made me at the time.
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>>106812855
the only good coom model is opus 3. anything else is cope. so yes, i make do with the slop available to me
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>>106812684
there's a fan ending animation on YouTube and i just take it as canon
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>>106812873
>t. sonnet4.5less
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Am I a fool for using agnai (not just the ui)
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>>10681008
JB?¡?¡
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>>106809398
my top 2 are
sonnet 4.5 (no reason to go to any other Claude model) and glm 4.6

eating good
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>>106812856
i have it on a proxy i just dont use it because its mid
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>>106812946
>t. brown
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>>106809157
Hey, I haven't been to /aicg/ for 8 months and just tried the new Sonnet. Any reason it's so shit, I remember the old Claudes fondly.
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>>106812946
>t. white
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>>106812945
Why do you favor glm? Seems to me very similar to deepseek 3.1/3.2
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>>106813019
I noticed the same, but then tried the new GLM 4.6. You should give it a try it's basically the new Claude.
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>>106813101
Shill please
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what is with the uptick on unpaid brown claude shills?
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>NOOOOOOO this is a chinese shill turf!
Not very subtle...
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Is the subscription for Chub worth it?
Also, is Chub down for anyone else right now? I keep getting an error trying to generate a response from the chat bot.
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>>106813137
3puskeks are doing another ad campaign to ensure their model is looked back on favorably after its retired even though it aged like shit
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>>106813179
>t. brown and poor
>>106813165
>subbing to chub
You gotta be joking
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>>106813213
>no argument
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>>106813223
>never had opus opinion
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>>>/vg/aicg
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>>106813230
>leans on typical slopusjeet defense instead of actually discussing
nice concession
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>>106813237
see >>106813230
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>>106813179
TRVKE
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>>106813234
never mind forget I linked this, all they're talking about is homo shit over there
amazing as bad as /g/ aicg is rn, to think it could be even worse
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>>106813252
>samejeet
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>>106813213
I'm just wondering if anyone subs to Chub. I guess not. Does the free access have a limited use to it? I think I may have reached it if that's the case. No responses from the bot. I wonder why? It just happened. Not sure how to fix it...
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>>106813253
thank you for coming back to light
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>>106813258
Cope.
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>>106813253
and then certain "oldfags" ask why we want to stay as far as possible from that thread
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>>106813271
mosr of the thread survives on this
https://openrouter.ai/models/?q=free
and occasionally spend some money on expensive models
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Really hoping gemini 3 brings the magic back.
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>>106813302
It's gonna be so fucking filtered and locked down, they probably don't want what happened to gpt to happen to them either
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>>106812394
you won't get an unfilterd response no matter how many models you stack since they all have their own types of baked-in filters
the chances of getting filtered only increase, ironically
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>>106813253
they don't even use chatbots and their discord circles come here to shitpost
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>>106813317
Plenty of models can easily be made to write coom on their own. What I posted was about eliminating AI-isms and other annoying things exclusively.
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>>106813314
I'm not talking about filters. I'm talking about the model being able to be fun without having to hold its fun every step of the way.
With the amount of jumping through hoops and guiding these things need more and more of it's getting harder to justify using them as opposed to just writing your own cringe fanfics.
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>>106813299
I gotta be real with you I don't know what the fuck I'm looking at lol.
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>>106813314
You have to remember an important detail: Google is retarded. Even more than jews like Dario or rapist jews like Altman. There is still hope.
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>>106813299
Any human here with a brain developed past the age of 18, intermediate problem-solving skills and access to the Internet should be able to find out how to get Claude for free. There should be no reason to still be using OR chinkslop free models in 2026. This isn't January.
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>>106813314
I said the same thing about sonnet 4.5 and I was wrong.
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Can I get an actual FUCKING SAUCE for the Gemini 3 thing? Or is this another shitposting episode because I'm fucking tired of this god damned general. 3 years of my life wasted here.
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>>106813345
I realize I probably think it's harder than It actually is, but this new AI shit is making me feel like a god damn boomer looking at an iPhone. I have no fucking clue how to work this shit.
I'm in my 20s for fuck's sake I should know how this works but there's just so much shit to look at and I got no idea where to start.
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>>106813362
Just let your dick guide you, empty your mind and listen to your penis
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>>106813330
read the docs, you can use those models through api calls for free after a $10 deposit
even chub has an openrouter key field
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>>106813345
Listen I know you're trying to appear intellectually superior as a Claude user here, but I'm gonna be real with you: I'm not running a script when I don't know what it does or how it works. I could follow some rentry guide and unknowingly be setting myself up to get named in another lawsuit.
I am content with Gemini + GPT (rip), anyways. The last time I tried Claude it tried to stir everything into coom when I just wanted it to write a story. They're not at the top anymore, that was only when Opus 3 existed.

Self preservation instincts > Whatever faggot ass meme you're trying to parrot here.
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>>106813388
based knows his limits anon.
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>>106813388
I have been using the same Claude script since 2024 and have dumped billions of token usage on mostly illegal shit on my home IP. Where is my lawsuit?
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>>106813397
I rawdogged some proxies back when this whole chatbot thing started and shit myself about it for months. Never again.
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>>106813354
Oceanstone
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>>106813410
I rawdogged some chinese opus proxy here last year, nothing happened

there were a few dudes who used the super logge dproxy here, yall fucking crazy

they even had a website up for said logs, it was funny iirc
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>>106813410
Have you tried smoking less weed ya paranoid baby
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>>106813426
I've never taken any drugs in my life. The paranoia comes naturally to me. And I can't even drown my fears/sorrows in substances. I am in hell.
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im scarred bros, cards to help me cope with trauma induced from this roleplay?
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I was reading into this "proxy owner doxxed" thing. Apparently it had nothing to do with /aicg/ but I saw someone calling him
>Temu Jackson 5 lookin' ass
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>>106813434
Ah, a fellow retard.
Well met.
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>the world narrowed

Easily become the fucking worst thing. made especially bad by every single LLM loving it.
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>>106813550
I have a (long) list of AI-isms I put into the "forbidden" prompt of my jb.
Works. At times. Sometimes it pink elephants.
I want to kill myself.
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Anyone else getting this on chub
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>>106813574
not me, im running a local model
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>>106813345
yeah and if you are a white man, you could just pay for it, isn't it?
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Ok merkava
the joke is over
you can come out now
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How do I make gemini and deepseek not shit? I need chorbo back.
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>start a convo about co-ads and targeted advertising with Gemini
>move onto how Google's unethical behavior in one field can be assumed to imply upon another
>question the black box problem as a massive copout to obfuscate accountability
>picrel
I want to believe....
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>>106813345
my problem was solved by drawing the correct type of pony so i agree
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>>106813652
What is going on with it?
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Wife
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>>106813345
>t. expects people to mail opus6
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>>106813936
did he not kick you for being a tourist? or do you like mlp?
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>>106814027
unkicked so far, ive exclusively used the token for human coomslopping
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>>106813975
>t. promptlet
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>>106814112
>t. larper
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>>106813345
>search "claude ai 2025 free no virus"
>click the first link
>it actually works
thanks bro!
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>>106814118
>>t. la-ACK!
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>>106814155
>opus6
knew it lol
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>>106814160
Yes, I'm not a promptlet and drew a pony
Stay mad.
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>>106814164
ill stay calm thank you, didnt even have to put pencil to paper btw
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>>106814182
So who's the larper? looks like projection
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>>106814194
well neither of us are at this point
but acting like theres "le 18 year old brain and skills" way to get free claude when it was just the pony proxy is retarded
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>>106814182
Why do the ponies have a proxy with stable claude and not us?
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>>106814221
Because they keep nig/g/ers out.
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>>106814208
I'm not that anon.
I called you a promptlet since you couldn't even draw for 10 mins to get in. Like the one who sent aislop and got denied
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>>106814230
But they are clearly still getting in
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>>106814236
i sent booru images and got in, feelsgood
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>>106812263
If three people can respond to his genuine issue with "le skillet" why can't I say that to you? I mean I'm not having this problem, so it must be a skill issue.
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>>106814250
It's his own proxy, so the gatekeeping is up to him. As long as teebs fucks off, since he was a massive locust cross-board spamming tranny raging over not being able to get in.
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>>106814266
So post your .json or shut up.
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>>106811861
Yeah these responses are very telling. It was the same back with R1. Everyone was quick to declare it slop (and rightfully so) because it was extremely hard to figure out the magic words to make it listen. Now the shoe is on the other foot and it's "lol retard personal issue." Model wars breeds the worst people.
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>>106814287
except someone actually posted a real preset instead of just posting skill issue
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>>106814280
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>>106814287
>>Sonnet 2.7
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>>106814295
Read the instructions very carefully.
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>>106812194
Yeah I used 4.6 for an ultra quick coom last night (3 responses and a couple swipes) and it wasn't bad. Fresh prose but occasional isms. If localbros are eating this good with the air version then we've fucking peaked.
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>>106813437
what model icon is that?
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>>106812416
prefill <think></think>
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4.5 is more efficient (thus cheaper on cache) than 3.7 is

truly incredible stuff
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>>106813302
Do not look to the West for AI improvements.
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>>106814450
...He says as the east needs to commit smuggling to catch up
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>>106814463
I didn't say to look to the East did I? ;^)
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>>106814465
Where's it gunna come from. South America?
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>>106814471
Australia.
OpenAyCunt.
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cached 4.5 price vs. glm price?
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>>106814481
Do aussies even have an AI in development?
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so... is 5 pro usable?
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>>106814615
Is your tight Lil bussy usable
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>>106814539
of course we don't.
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>>106812474
>How rough are the inevitable bans they hand out?
If they give 20 projects then they expect people to use them, no? As long as you're not using multiple accounts for it, I doubt they'd do anything. They'll just start limiting it for everybody if people are abusing it too hard.
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>>106814662
if you answer my question it could be ;)
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I am curious as to why none of the chinese companies don't have vision integrated into the base models compared to OpenAI/Anthropic/Google
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SAAR Gemini is better SAAR!!!
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>>106815026
>>106815026
>>106815026
Migrate
>>
What is going on with gemini?
It's almost like it's got overflowing context like slaude did back in the day.



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