>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. 1.4V or 1.45V CPU VR voltage limit recommended.

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

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is this real?

Just upgraded to a 32' monitor from a 24', what should I do to make the transition easier? Scale settings and what not

>>106811052
>i just upgraded from a smart-car hatchback to a F-150, how do i deal with this?
stop being a fag thats how.

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>the lg g4 55 is 1300€ getting phased out
>G5 55 on stacked lg sales is 1700€
>Could wait until it drops further in price next year
>no cucked one connect box, no matte like s95f
>Tandem gloss memes
Yep it seems g5 55 is the current best pc "monitor", considering it got patches and stuff too
No other monitors are fun

>Missed the s90d 65" for 1300€ on sales now it's sold out too
Maybe I should have taken that pill when I could

>>106811052
4k you don't need scaling just a bit browser zoom

My prebuilt came with dimms that were not on QVL and have had intermittent BSODs for the past year. The troubleshooting light on the board blinks between CPU & RAM.

How long can a mobo function with unsupported RAM before you just have to replace it? Can I just keep trying to reseat the modules over and over and hope it turns on again? Or should I just bite the bullet and buy a new stick that I checked is on QVL from my local store?

>>106811165
>>106811132
Read the AVSforums thread about it. People are returning it left and right. I would've got one if it didn't have that issue.

>>106811178
The quickest fix is to enter the BIOS and disable XMP/EXPO.
If that doesn't solve the instabilities, your OS is already corrupted.

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For AMD users, why might I choose to apply a small frame cap with Radeon Chill (IE, native 144Hz display to 140 limit) vs just using Anti-Lag? I play competitive titles like The Finals and CS, but also like single-player story-driven experiences. What irks me more is 1% micro-stutters and frame instability in some games, but I appreciate minimal input latency too. May I have some advice?

>>106811369
you use antilag + in-game limiter. if in-game limiter is not available then you use rtss or optiscaler. chill is for handhelds to save power when not touching buttons or screen.

>>106811178
Maybe they put them in the wrong slots or they aren't fully seated

What's the cheapest Blu-Ray drive that I can buy for my PC that actually fucking works? I have movies I want to watch.

>>106811424
Got it, thank you. One quick last question: I haven't used RTSS before, so should I change any of the default settings besides the cap itself? Thanks again.

>>106811520
the only mainstream brand that still makes that dinosaur tech is LG, for pcs that is.

>>106811520
get the asus/lg one that can be flashed to support 4k blu-rays

Bros I need a pcie to sata card just for hdd storage. Is it ok to trust the 30$ chink brands on amazon?

What's the catch with the 9070 xt reaper?
Such a small card with good thermals

This monitor any good? MSI MPG 272URX QD-OLED

Has everything I want basically. qd-oled high refresh rate, flat, OLED, KVM, and I was hoping for 32" but I guess 27" is the best option for 4k

>>106811563
nothing to change other than global fps cap or adding your game to the program. you want it slightly below your monitors refresh rate. this way vsync penalty doesnt engage but game engines arent perfect so when the logic tries to go over your fps cap then vsync/vrr will step in to correct it so you dont get judder or tearing.

>>106811881
>What's the catch
That you bought a 9070xt
>>106811844
>boughted the wrong motherboard
yes

>>106811881
There's no negative. It's just the lower end model. So that means you cant crank the power limit to max for OC (2x 8-pin instead of 3x or 12vhpwr).

>>106811104
>The g4 55 is crazy cheap now on sales too rotating out
>crazy cheap
The lowest it's ever been is 1600, that is not crazy cheap.

>>106811165
Almost 2000 dollars for a screen is absurd. If someone can't convince me otherwise I'm pulling the fire escape on a 42 inch c4 tomorrow if it goes down another hundred.

>>106811165
>4k you don't need scaling just a bit browser zoom
How do you see your home screen and icons and the taskbar and windows ect? It will all be microscopic on 4k.

Is it worth looking at the 24/48GB DIMMS or is it better to just stick with the more traditional 16/32GB DIMM sizes?

If I buy a monitor or tv is it going to come with the hdmi/dp cables I need to run it to my computer or do I have to buy those separately? If I do how do I know which kind I need and which ones are worth it?

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>>106811885
It's great, even has full bandwidth UHBR20 DP 2.1 so you can run 4K@240Hz without DSC. My only caution is if you only plan to purchase a monitor once every like 7-10 years or it's a big investment for you the 27" 5K models will be released in the spring (they were already being demo'd at CES back in January):
https://videocardz.com/pixel/samsung-teases-next-gen-27-inch-qd-oled-displays-with-5k-resolution
Just a heads up don't mean to give you FOMO.

>>106811978
Monitors come with cables, TVs don't. Modern GPUs and consoles use HDMI 2.1. Can't remember the DP standards but if you're buying a monitor it should come with whatever DP cable you'd need to max it out. TVs don't come with DP or have DP ports.

>>106811895
>boughted the wrong motherboard
They all came with 4 SATA ports nowadays I need 5 and I broke one of them because the cable I used was too stiff. FML.

>>106811967
It won't matter if you need to ask, but do not use more than two DDR5 sticks if you want them to run stably at rated XMP/EXPO speeds/timings.
2x 16GB or 2x 24GB kits are better if you're going to manually overclock it (less stress on the memory controller).
24GB DIMMs can reach faster speeds, and 16GB modules can have tighter timings.

Nobody can force me to reapply thermal paste, even though it's been 6 years since I built my PC and the CPU rises to 80c on a hot day

>>106812025
I am doing either 2x16/24 or 2x32/48

I'm honestly ready to upgrade any time, but I'm trying to hold off one more generation if I can.

Has anyone had to deal with MSI customer support?
The backlight on my MAG274QRF-QD is starting to fail and it's still under warranty.

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>burn in isn't an issue they will give you a new tv if it happens in 3 years
You fuckers will make up anything to shill, can't believe this lie was spread and believed for so long.

Screen burn-in is (usually) not covered under warranty
In their warranties, LG and Sony explicitly state that image retention and burn-in are not covered on their OLED TVs. When CNET reached out to LG a couple to ask why, a representative replied:

"There is generally no warranty coverage for image retention by TV companies and display manufacturers. Image retention may result when consumers are out of normal viewing conditions, and most manufacturers do not support warranty for such usage regardless of the type of display," said Tim Alessi, former director of new products at LG.

Sony's reply was similar: "Our warranty covers product and manufacturing defects. Burn-in is not covered as it is caused by consumer usage and is not a product defect."

>>106812015
I'd wait if my main monitor an acer IPS 32" didn't randomly have weird burn in and now it has three different spots where the bottom leds or whatever it is burned brown spots into the monitor at the bottom. Acer is the worst fucking brand of monitors i've ever had and the return policies for a fucking 32" monitor are so fucking retarded. I sent the thing back (which was pain in the ass. i didnt have the box). And they shipped it back to me STILL broken. I hate these people. fuck acer!

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Is bottleneck from a CPU a big issue for vidya?
I got a used 3070ti really cheap but I dunno if losing the ~8% performance that bottleneck calculator says that big of a deal.
But coming from a 1060 it might be worth the upgrade regardless.

>>106812110
Tell us your CPU not some memeshit "bottleneck calculator".

>>106812116
Shit, sorry I thought I did.
8600k

Curious, what do you guys do with your old components that still work? Send it to Ebay or recycling center?
I have a i7 6700, cooler master 212 evo,2x Crucial Ballistix 16gb ddr 4 ram, and geforce 970 that still work and I need to unload it.

>>106812120
Then yes it'll be a concern.

I have a 9700k and a 4070Ti and I'm CPU bottlenecked in most games at 1440p

>>106812099
i had the same experience a decade ago and have been yelling about how bad Acers warranty dept is ever since. Sad you missed my rants. They're at the top of my blacklisted tech corps, with Asus a close second.

>>106812124
sell it on ebay or keep it on hand

>>106812133
Even philips sent me a brand new monitor when it was giving me weird dimming problems. I'll do my part to stop everyone from buying acer. FUCK ACER!

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Is their a recommended guide to fan curves?

>>106812213
>>106812133
Feels so bad for americans. I never have to deal with the manufacturers directly ever. Just return it to the store and they fix the rest. Never had a bad warranty case, never got denied even when I deep down I know it was partially my fault.

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Is blur or whatever with mini led only a problem if your refresh rate is low? If I can maintain 144hz or higher will it not be an issue?
Looking at this one in particular. I've been searching screens for days now and nothing really stands out as a good choice. I can't trust OLED yet and I use my computer 12+ hours a day so it would burn in fast. Can anyone recommend something better than this in that price range?

>>106812124
Do you have a family? I just hand down my electronics, gave my sibling a 6650xt after upgrading to a 9070, I gave my nephew an entire build with a 5800x, but he has to cope with a GTX 1060 6gb I had lying around, my brother got some free ram to get 32gb on his old am4 rig. For free of course, family always goes first, unless they're insufferable but can't say that's my case. If you're a nigger profitmaxxer, just head over to fb marketplace and haggle your way up

Is he right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPYWGubp--c

>>106811881
sapphire, powercolor and xfx are the brands to consider
nitro uses the goy connector and pulse is way too barebones plus ass thermals so personally i wouldnt pick them this time
xfx are great but all of their models are 2 and a half or 3 slots fat, that might be a issue for some anons
personally i would say powercolor is the winner this gen, theres no big flaw on this batch

tldr powercolor is the safest choice this time, if you see a good deal go for it

What's a "reasonable" monitor arm price? Single monitor mounts range from like $25 to $500. I want to replace my two 1440 screens with a DQHD one.

>>106812124
You can advertise it locally for cash in hand and collection only. Just bundle it all together so it's less hassle and get the buyer to make the effort. Or you can just pass it off to friends or family. That's what I usually do.

>>106812307
Resolution alone doesn't mean anything. PPI is the only thing that matters. I'm assuming that's what the guy says.

>>106812307
Judging by having cod on the screen I'm guessing he's an fps fag. Sure in that situation 4k is a big waste.

>>106812318
The sapphire pure looks alright, no?

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how is it?

>>106812446
I'd get a dual-tower air cooler if you just want to cool a 9800X3D (and I don't think it's worth it if the 7800X3D is cheaper in your market).
Also could do with the cheaper NVME as Samsung drives tend to be overpriced. Otherwise looks good.

>>106812441
i didnt see it on the videos i checked but looks likea white nitro without the retarded connector so might be worth checking it

>>106812446
dont get the kryonaut you retard
either mx6 or duronaut
everything else is solid

>>106811844
The ASM1166 cards and M.2 seem popular with the home server crowd.

>>106812470
any reason why dual-tower? the aio cooler seems more clean and space efficient inside the case

TeamGroup
Transcend
Lexar

Of the cheap RAM stick manufacturers, which is better?

>>106812498
TeamGroup

>>106812446
Don't buy the worst 5070ti

>>106812489
it actually really doesn't matter

>>106811958
you just scale everything 2x so you actually have 1080p worth of workspace

4k is a meme on pure desktop, you better be cinema afficionado or a video editor if you buy an big 4k monitor

>>106812525
What's the point of 4k then if you have to just scale everything 2x? Wouldn't that apply to games as well?

>>106812246
im 2213, not a yank, and yeah, thats what i did, but i still feel bad for the storefront that it happened to as they lost money on it not me.

Its also an additional annoyance that it took like 3+ weeks to be processed at their warranty dept and sent back and forth, and i went through it twice before i put my foot down and refused to take the monitor back. The entire time this happened, i had to spend more money on an adapter to make my old monitor DP-compliant so it would even plug into my more modern gpu, and use that instead.

>>106812489
Cheaper and less long-term maintenance concerns with coolant permeation through the tubing and pump motor failure.

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>>106812318
>goy connector
KEK
Otherwise i agree entirely, im a fan of XFX coolers, very good, but yeah they're massive, they standardise their design to make them both consistently decent coolers and cheaper to manufacture.

>>106812446
having just 1 m.2 drive for all your data, games+OS is kinda bad, i'd get a seperate drive for your OS+drives and another m.2 for games+data at the least. Otherwise decent build, shame about the gpu. Your case might need additional dust-proofing just fyi.

>>106811331
XMP was never enabled, it was recognized as DRR4-2933. I checked last week, now I can't even POST.
>If that doesn't solve the instabilities, your OS is already corrupted.
Horrifying thought. I have some synthesizers installed that I'd have to deactivate locally before being able to reuse them on another computer.
>>106811467
They were in the right slots and fully seated. I looked inside but didn't touch anything when I first got it and told myself I wouldn't until I noticed any instability issues.

>>106812050
Used thermal paste feels like rat droppings, so I'm fine with not touching it more than twice a decade. So long as it's under 90c, you're "chillin"

>>106812498
teamgroup are fine for ram, dont buy their m.2s/ssds tho.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XmXhb2

Mostly play PoE 2 and occasionally stream with VTube Studio

Budget 20k NOK or about 2k USD. Norway

Saw this on sale (not including monitor, previously 30k, now 20k), and figured I could use an upgrade, as my current build is struggling playing PoE 2, even with all settings on low/ultra performance. Not able to stream while playing.

Current specs are i5 9600k @ 3.70GHz - 32GB DDR4 @ 1330MHz - PRIME B365-PLUS (LGA1151) - Gigabyte RTX 3060 Ti 8GB - 500GB Samsung SSD and 250GB Kingston SSD

>>106812590
just an entirely new ram set, or you could send the prebuild back for support, assuming its been less than 2 yrs since you got it.

>>106812556
Never returned a monitor but returned RAM, mobo, psu, ssd and I often get a new one immediately most of the time they didnt even check just asked what troubleshotting steps I did. Lucky I never had to send back cpu, gpu or monitor that cost alot more than the things I sent back so I guess that's different.

>>106812506
>>106812593
Assuming you had no other choice (out of stock or whatever), which would you settle for? Transcend or Lexar?

>>106811889
Working well, noticeable already. Cheers anon.

>>106812640
i'd find a different online retailer. Lexar are okay for budget m.2s, nothing else.

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>>106812615
>you could send the prebuild back for support
it's a local guy who did it in his 50s and he said if i already opened the system that he won't help me so fuck him
>just an entirely new ram set
alright.
>only 1 left
lol so much for being a "set"; this is fine

>>106812218
Depends on what level of noise you're looking for and the temperatures you're getting. Mine are pretty low most of the time and only ramp up when I'm gaming, ie when I have headphones on and can't hear the fans

>>106812640
Lexar then

>>106812692
sure i guess. Buy some cooling sticky pads and aluminum metal strips, add your own cooling pads to keep the ram working fine.

Is there any reason to go for the b850 motherboards instead of the same b650 that's 50$ cheaper?

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This case I've been eyeing for a while is on sale right now. Should I get it? As long as the RGB works and it does its thing it's fine by me.

>>106812595
>5070
Just wait 4 months for the 5070 Super, it's (probably) going ti be around the same price as the 5070 but with more VRAM. Or just get a 9070 XT (if you find in anywhere near MSRP lol)

Question, does anyone know the longevity of the X3D chips? Like, has anyone had a 5800X3D or something die of old age and not just a defect?

>>106812895
>Foid fking store

Which of these monitors should I go for?
>ASUS XG27ACDNG
>Gigabyte Aorus FO27Q3
>MSI MPG 271QRX

The Asus one seems like the absolute best and has BFI, but is the most expensive, but also the gaudiest and has that stupid fucking little chin on the bezel for no reason. MSI and Gigabyte are basically the same quality but MSI has toggleable DSC while the Gigabyte has SDR brightness on par with the ASUS model. Is BFI a meme or worth the extra 100 bucks? If the Gigabyte model had DSC toggle it would be a pretty easy choice.

>>106812918
I have a 7800X3D and it's still kicking. Only motherboard defects have really killed those chips. No reason to expect X3D chips to have a lesser life span than a typical CPU.

>>106812895
Is that a case or a gay aquarium?

>>106812908
I'm planning on selling the 5070 later on an online marketplace whenever I feel like I need to switch out the GPU. I am not a fan of the 50 series, but this is a package deal, and I'm itching to get a new computer

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
I only read the OP and built this thing. Any critiques?

>>106812984
You don't need a CPU that powerful, do you?

>>106812895
Aquarium cases are for fags
RGB is for fags
Double fag

>>106813005
I did work in media before and also modded minecraft

>>106812895
Check out the reviews to see if someone complains about build quality (metal being flimsy, etc). If it's good, go for it, don't listen to these soulless jaded faggots, blind people with RGB as soon as they enter your room if it makes you happy

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>>106811009
first time, USA. it's about all I want to spend
for gaming and audio production, some video editing.
haven't decided monitor except that it is 1440 and will probably end up adding a second one.
feel like i am wasting money on something, not sure what, but i would like it to last a while.

>>106812895
you better be a pretty biological girl otherwise you are an ultra faggot

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>>106811009
Hey, it's my PC setup with the new build!

>>106813129
lol thanks anon. i'm not that big a fan of RGB but having the option to turn it on is always nice, thanks for the advice

>>106812895
Its a nice case ignore the hater :D

>>106813135
I would suggest the 5070ti so you don't struggle with vram as much later on

>>106812984
do you really need that usb4 port of the x870?
>what do you m-
get the b850 board equivalent you retard

Why do everybody recommend amd but when I look at benchmark Intel always better?

>>106813135
also change the ram to a kingston beast
corsair vengeance has dogshit modules and the heatsink it has is trash

>>106813151
you are the most heterosexual anon in the last couple of threads

>>106813164
Which benchmark are you looking at?

>>106813135
ok anon but how much audio production and video editing will you be doing really? because it you're gonna be gaming 80% of the time you use it it's fine but if you're actually serious about audio production and video editing get yourself 64 GBs of RAM

>>106813135
>>106813135
You could drop to an i5 without a serious hit to productivity. That i7 will be hard pressed to stay cool on air.

>>106813135
You're fucking high wanting to use a tower cooler for a 14700k
Also why not the 265k?
Everything else looks fine though. If you're at 4k the 5070ti is safer for the 16gb

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>>106813171
I took some time off, but I've been here forever. And never wore a single programming sock.

>>106813180
example
https://www.techradar.com/computing/cpu/14700k-vs-7800x3d

https://technical.city/en/cpu/Core-i5-14600K-vs-Ryzen-5-9600X

>>106812975
i mean if you REALLY REALLY need a new PC RIGHT NOW then yeah go for it's a nice OC and it's your money not mine

>>106812489
Because the thread has its resident air-cooling obsessed autist who will never fail to jump in to drag people into the air cooler trap. If you are going to spend big money on a 9800x3d then get yourself an AIO. It WILL boost high enough to generate enough heat that liquid cooling will help in real world scenarios, whether to keep the chip below 95C or to be significantly quieter at the same temperature. Lab test results of air coolers are always done in lab conditions with cool ambient temps, the comparison with liquid coolers breaks down in warmer places. And of course as you realize it is a bit more of a hassle to set up a PC with a dual tower than an AIO, and if there are problems you can't reach anything without removing it first. Midrange priced ones like the Freezer are not exactly expensive compared to the rest of your components, while ultracheap ones like an Aqua Elite v3 can be found for almost as low as air coolers yet are justasgood as any other AIO.

The only odd thing I notice about your parts list is taking a white AIO when the rest of the internal components are black. Maybe it just looks right and balanced in a white Fractal North?

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>>106813202
kek

>>106813208
Most people buy 65W-105W CPUs and they dont need AIO. A single tower air cooler is both easier to set up and have better longevity while being lots cheaper..

After days of research I've narrowed down my screen choices to 2. Either the LG B5 55inch or TCL QM7K 55 inch. I can't go any higher because that's the max my monitor arm can mount and I don't think I really need to go bigger either.
Both screens seem to have a good amount of upsides and a few downsides. The LG being OLED has the obvious downside, I don't think dithering will be a problem for me though because I sit far away from the screen.
For the QM7K blooming seems to be the main issue but coming through tech forums they seem to claim that firmware updates have made it not so bad.
I would just go for the OLED but I use my computer 12+ hours a day 7 days a week. I just know it would burn in within just a few years and warranties don't cover burn in. But I still can't bring myself to make a choice.
Has anyone used either of this and could share your thoughts?

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>>106813203
Ah aight, thanks. I know it's not the best build, and the 50 series are kind of trash, is probably better to wait, I want a new PC this month. Can always re-sell the 5070 and upgrade later when the need arises. Think the CPU should hold out better in the long run compared to an i5.

>>106813262
the 5070 is very good wtf is that guy taking about. 12 GB VRAM should last you this entire console gen if you play 1440p.

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>>106813273
>12 GB
>1440p
anon, i.....

>>106813262
That guy is tarded, if you need an upgrade just do it. 5070 is secretly one of the better midrange gpus we've got in a long time. 12gb is as of right now basically 0 issue at 1440p, and only a minor bottleneck at 4k.

If you wait you're going to end up having to pay out the ass or WAITing even longer. You could however wait for a sale, rtx 5070 is frequently going for under $500 now even online

>>106813290
Console are made for 4k and they have shared 16GB RAM and VRAM.

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>>106811009
>budget
500 usd or more
>México
maybe country is irrelevant (or not) as we import a lot of pc components from the us, but my question is: i see in a lot of videos they install the rtx 3050 low profile inside some small pcs such as the lenovo m720q and the m920q but those are like a thusand bucks a pop for a refurbished one, so is there any other office pc with low consumption where i can install the rtx 3050 low prfile? i'd prefer to spend less on power consumption because my previous pc had a 750 psu and i paid like 1k usd in power every month, i changed temprarily to an xbox one x (80w consumption) and i got back to paying 20 bucks for power, so a mini pc with low consumption is a must, pretty pelase anons

>>106813318
Pinche CFE de mierda

>>106813310
Consoles use upscaling, not native 4K.

best value aio? first time buying one

>>106813157
>>106813167
>>106813185
>>106813198
thanks anons, i will be adjusting my parts list accordingly
i'll report back tomorrow when i figure it out and possibly purchase if the prime day thing is all it's made out to be.

>>106813338
If you don't need RGB, the ID Cooling FX-360 is like $55 and works pretty good.

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>>106813338
No idea, but I got this one for fairly cheap from microcenter and it seems to do well in my system.

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>buy 2 sticks of DDR5 RAM for new build
>PC won't boot after assembly, DRAM light pops up
>apparently there's a list of "supported RAM" in the mobo's site now
Since when the FUCK is not every stick of RAM compatible with every board (size and type nonwithstanding)?

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Is there anything close to an open bench pc case that will allow you to work and swap components out, but also has optional enclosed panels to prevent dust? I don't care how big the PC will be, I'm just looking for something I can unscrew or slide of the panels off easily to change stuff around.

>>106813358
There have been qualified vendor lists of memory for motherboards since i started building PCs back in 2010.

So minimally, for the last 15 years.

>>106813358
What RAM and mobo?

>motherboard broke
>force to buy another 1700 socket because I don't have the budget to shell out a new cpu
died at the worst possible time

>>106813363
Fuck my goddamn life, I've never ran into any issues until now when I've spent the most money ever on a build. It's not like Crucial is a no name brand

>>106813365
Crucial Pro Black DDR5 (CP16G64C38U5B) and Asus X870-PLUS WIFI

Any HDMI 2.1 cable recommendations? Looking amazon reviews and a lot say they don't actually work at 144hz and such. Can't seem to find a straight answer.

>>106813358
Probably memory training. How long did you let it run? Also reddit is obsessed with QVL 99% of the time it wont be an issue if you just run stock or rated EXPO/XMP.

Im planning a new 9800x3d build. Will just be gaming and media, what chipset do i need?
I am planning to use a gpu of course, and two m2 drives, one for OS, one for storage.
Do i really need the big dick x870e stuff?
I saw in a video where the dude said the "lane" would throttle if you put a m2 there, and now im scared that my mobo would slow me down with 2 m2 drives.
These mobos seem to come with 3 m2 slots, top (mostly over or under the gpu, almost almost heatsink), and then 2 more. if i leave one free and then install the bottom one do they still throttle? I wont use SATA SSD or HDD.

>>106813385
Took it to a friend so he could test it but it had a slightly more pressing issue, the PSU was making a constant clicking sound when the PC was powered on (think one of those old school stopwatches, click click click), it would power the whole thing up, fans spinning, lights on, etc. but the DRAM light would go up and stay there. At this point I'm really hoping it's the memory training thing but my PSU also seems to be screwed

>>106812538
There will be 4x the visible detail in the same physical space. Anything you have to zoom in to see clearly on a lower res monitor will be visible on a higher res model. UI is UI; it might not have details to see with such high res and you have to scale it so it isn't too tiny for you to see, but then media that is being consumed and worked on will benefit greatly.

>>106813396
IIRC the "throttling" you get on the GPU is not severe enough to slow down even the newer Nvidia 5000-gen cards in gaming scenarios, unless you plan to do non-gaming AI stuff.

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>>106813338
Probably any of the 10,000 variations of 360mm rads by Thermalright (Frozen Edge, Frozen Notte, Frozen Prism, Aqua Elite, and the various color & RGB sub-models thereof):
https://gamersnexus.net/coolers/thermalright-strikes-again-5690-360mm-liquid-cooler-frozen-prism-review
Like their dual-tower air coolers they have a gazillion variations of the same base SKU that are only slightly different so I'd pick the cheapest one that looks the newer ($52):
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/k7ZWGX/thermalright-aqua-elite-argb-v6-7084-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-aqua-elite-360-argb-black-v6
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rLjv6h/thermalright-aqua-elite-argb-v6-7084-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-aqua-elite-360-argb-white-v6

If you have a bit more to spend then the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro 360 ($90) is gonna be the best option without going 420mm:
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/liquid-cooling/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-pro-review/2
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v2kqqs/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-pro-360-77-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00180a
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/liquid-cooling/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-pro-review/2

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>>106813318
>México
Good, make sure you stay there
I don't know what prices are like down there so I have no real suggestions, I'm just racist
Lot of the newer prebuilts the oems caught on to people refurbishing them, so they went out of there way to make it impossible to make psu adaptors and standard even lp cards. Make sure you do some googling on whatever specific prebuilt you look at.
>1k usd in power every month
Jesus christ, how many people did you have to decapitate for the drug lord to afford something like that?
>>106813343
For anything intel or even amd + "productivity". Air coolers aren't going to keep up for full core workloads without a super limited power limit
Even the 13600k + an air cooler is super sketchy with an undervolt. Sitting at 100c whenever you're doing something isn't great.

>multiple people saying they're getting an ssd for OS and another for storage
Who is recommending this to you guys? Who is telling you it is so important that you need to tell us you're doing this? Are you watching videos where they're installing to an hdd? It's like I'm taking crazypills or something.

>>106813398
Try clear CMOS first. If it doesnt work try booting with one stick of RAM at a time. Then try different RAM slot. Check power cable on the motherboard if they seated tightly. In my experience it's way more likely some component is faulty then the RAM not in QVL. Your PSU also seems very sus.

>>106813427
It just more cost effective to do so. If you have enough space on your fastest SSD then use it for both, retard.

>>106813415
so if you want no "throttling" you have to only use 1 m2 drive?
i cant imagine that a lot of people dont just cram 2 m2 into their system and call it a day, cause its just so much more convenient than any other drive form especially for a gaming only rig. anyone has input on this?

>>106813373
>CP16G64C38U5B
That's a single-stick SKU, did you buy a kit or two separate sticks? https://www.crucial.com/memory/ddr5/CP2K16G64C38U5B
Also, 6400MT/s CL38 is terrible for Ryzen, too much frequency and latency. Awful secondary timings too.

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>>106812935
I have the MSI MPG 271QRX.
MSI released a firmware that increased the mandatory Panel Protect duration from 16 to 24 hours, but you cannot turn off pixel shift.
I'm happy with it, but I wouldn't buy it now when there are TB500-rated monitors like the LG 27GX700A-B with a tandem WOLED panel ($600 with a US Amazon Prime membership).
I would try out that monitor first and return it if you don't like the matte finish or whatever issues you have with it.

>>106813442
>It just more cost effective to do so.
>2TB 990 pro is half the price of a 4TB 990 pro
>1TB 990 is MORE than 1/4th the price of a 4TB 990 pro
I think not, retard. You guys are just making bad choices.

>>106811009
Are standing desks worth the hype over just getting up every few minutes.

>>106813338
The FX-360, for Thermalright almost any of their AIOs without a screen. Modern AIOs of the same size class all virtually have the same performance within a degree Celsius or two. Those two brands are some of the cheapest.

>>106813477
Nobody tells you to buy 2 nvme one for OS and the other for storage, retard. If you dont have lots of hentai and tranny porn then just buy the 4TB and stfu.

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>>106812895
I bought it. Thanks anons :)

>>106813496
>brownoid has no idea what I'm saying and just types
Ahhh, very similar to niconigger. Ban evasion?

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>>106813427
It's not a big deal. It's just something some people do. I have a 1tb nvme for the system and a 2tb nvme storage drive on most of my builds. On my main PC... I have a little more. Storage is cheap. People do what they want.

>>106813318
Hijo de perra en dónde mierda andas buscando que encuentras la 3050 LP por $1000 USD? No mames we busca algo en Marketplace mejor

>>106813333
witnessed
also, yup, fuck the CFENIGGERS they stole my gauge unit twice and they took 1+ month to replace it each time
>>106813338
refurbished imac 2013 is pretty good for the money imo, great for most normie stuff; what do you want to do with it?
>>106813424
>racist
based i like cars too, but really no other option than to shell the 1k for a damn 13 + 16gb of ram? damn; i guess it's cheaper than paying that monthly in power
>how many people did you have to decapitate for the drug lord to afford something like that?
nothing too serious, we just stop evry now and then by your stepfather's to sell him some fentanyl, too bad he's always busy beating your mom
>>106813510
las que andan en 1000 lanas son las mini pc anon, solo las que no tienen pci express son las que te encuentras en amazon y meli, y en marketplace todas son de crickos o banda que ocupa un pasón, me quería ahorrar la molestia anon

>>106813507
I understand it isn't a big deal, but if you're building a new system why would you do that? I'm clearly not talking about if you have drives lying around, I mean a brand new system being built with two drives in mind. If storage capacity and price scale linearly, it makes no sense to populate multiple slots with low capacity drives.

>>106813505
You're retarded and brown. 2tb nvme+4TB HDD is cheaper than 4TB nvme. It's more cost efficient if you dont care about the speed you load up your medias.

>>106813501
Keep us posted when it arrives how the build goes.

>>106813542
We're clearly not talking about hdds, please go back to your favela.

>>106813475
>matte finish
Non-starter. What a damn fucking shame though.

>>106813537
Everything is relative. Price especially. Why I often do the 1tb/2tb thing is, your system drive is under constant use while important files are on the storage drive. If you're a betting man, which of the 2 drives is most likely to fail first? Also, on the same note, that's why everything important is backed up on the external. And periodically backed up again off-site.

>>106813561
Then you're delusional. Nobody tells you to buy 2 990 Pro of different size for that purpose, Pedro.

>>106813318
Mira wey, do not get a 3050, if you must get a "low profile" shit GPU, at least get a 5050 and make it current gen. I would just get a 9600x with a 9060xt 16gb, that's around 220w at full system load, which will probably never happen. Just build your own PC instead of buying refurbished garbage, it won't be cheaper, but you'll be able to use it for way longer and have a better experience

>>106813537
im the dude that started talking about m.2s, asking the question, and yeah i asked for 2 m2 slots because i want to reuse a m2 i already have alongside one im gonna buy.
it just confusing since they are so easy to just slam in there.

>>106813568
>ah fuck he called me brown, I need to get back at this White man
>I know, I'll call him brown!
lol
>>106813566
>If you're a betting man, which of the 2 drives is most likely to fail first?
When was the last time a good ssd failed on you and it wasn't defective? I understand what you're saying, but that's simply not the norm. I guess if you're purchasing storage from some guy behind your local gas station.
>>106813590
That makes sense, but if it was my first time seeing it I would have just kept scrolling.

>>106813580
Pero bro, there is no low profile 5050, i NEED the 3050 because the consumption is 40w under load, the whole build is gonna be 80w max, a 5050 needs at least a 500w psu because with what are you pairing a fucking 5050? a nuc proccesor? it's only compatible with the i7 12700 and newer

>>106813562
I deleted my suggestion to try out the matte WOLED, apparently Amazon has gotten stricter wrt monitor returns (has to be returned in "original or unused condition," for full refund).

>>106813596
You're brown though. Even if they recommend bigger M.2 for storage it should be some cheap last gen nvme or maybe even sata. It's very often a waste for average user to buy a big top of the line nvme.

>>106813596
I'm a photographer. I cannot afford to take chances. After a shoot, the card contents are loaded to a Lightroom Classic folder on the 4tb drive and sorted and culled. The card is also backed up on the external. And, like I said, backed up monthly for a drive off-site.

>>106813318
>1k usd
wtf hombre
i run a gasoline generator for power at my house and i would pay less if i left my microwave on for a month
this can't be real
>>106813424
I decided to downgrade cpu to i5-14600K on anon consensus
Audio is 95% of the "productivity" and i have dedicated equipment for recording, so i figured the cpu will only be running full capacity occasionally. I'm not rendering 3d models or anything. Do you still think I can stay air cooled? I am anxious about liquids in computers.

>>106813642
>this can't be real
welcome to the "niveles de subsidio con el consumo de la luz" where if you pay like 20 dollars like i did and you used a bit more you are upped to the 50 dollar pay, then next months to the 150 range, then the 1k dollar range, all that in a matter of 3 months, ts shit i know, but that's a shit and gentrified world we live in anon

>>106813642
I have a 14600K with a 360mm AIO, contact frame, excellent case cooling.., and at stock clocks, it hits 87 in Cinebench... I really don't think any real world use case would be as tough on a CPU, especially audio work. But, do you really want to take a chance, running on air?

>>106813654
The cartel is stealing your electricity to produce fentanyl. No way your power go down that much going from a pc with unknown gpu to an xbox. I doubt you had the money to get power hungry gpu like the 4090 and even then it wont make that much different.

>>106813654
sounds like my internet prices
sorry bro
>>106813663
I'm honestly really worried about water because I will be transporting the computer between buildings pretty often and live in interior alaska in winter. I don't want it to freeze because I accidently let it get too cold for 5 minutes. I know this is bad for computers but I simply can't avoid it.
idk if this is reasonable or not, or if you can use antifreeze on liquid cooling or not
if i can't cool it with air i will have to use aio, so i guess that is what i am asking.

>>106813654
Someone's stealing from you or you're using your ac all day every day. I have a 120w cpu and 200w GPU and I don't even break 100 bucks bimonthly in a household with 3 AC units.
t. Norteño libre de gentrificación

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>>106813663
only liquid metal can tame that beast anon

>RDNA4 doesn't support ROCm while even the 5050 supports CUDA
why do you niggercattle buy this cucked slop

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>>106812935
Those panels are all around $650, which if you are spending that much for a premium 1440p why not consider the new 500Hz panels using Samsung's next-gen QD-OLED revision that are HDR True Black 500 certified? The MAG 272QP QD-OLED X50 is only $100 more:
https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-272qp-qd-oled-x50-27-qhd-500-hz-metallic-white/p/N82E16824475501?Item=N82E16824475501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIFPzQ5L-ZM

>Is BFI a meme or worth the extra 100 bucks?
It's nice if the panel has it, but you can also get the same effect in software now with CRT Beam Simulation Shader since OLED has 0ms pixel transition times:
https://blurbusters.com/crt-simulation-in-a-gpu-shader-looks-better-than-bfi/
https://github.com/blurbusters/crt-beam-simulator
The effect is better the more Hz your display has so 500Hz native would actually be useful here even if you don't reach that natively in-game.

>>106813699
You CAN use air. But, you need to make sure everything else is lending itself to keeping the entire computer cool. GOOD thermal paste. Fuck that "Pea Sized Drop" nonsense. Frost the cake with a thin coating. Get a contact frame. Get GOOD case fans and research how to set them up. AND, look into undervolting the CPU in the bios. It WILL run cooler and perform better.

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Been waiting 12 years for this upgrade, after spending a couple years lurking here this is the final build I have come up with. The double ram and HDD are just placeholders to see what sale prices are.
Any last minute advice? How did I do in general? Anything you think I could improve on? Budget isn't an issue but I don't want to get a 5080 unless it goes under 1k.
The parts I am least sure about are the m.2's and the power supply. Both were highly rated but there were a lot of highly rated ones.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro 360
MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK
G.Skill Flare X5 (can't decide between 32 or 64)
Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2 x2
Asus PRIME GeForce RTX 5070 Ti
Corsair RM850x (2024) 850

>>106813699
Pretty sure the water in competently made AIOs is not simply plain water, there's going to be some antifreeze (and anticorrosion) in it.

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>>106811009
Why people are giving advice on buying OLED monitors here?

People are usually buying PC for 5-7 years, OLED won't last that long.

>>106813699
thanks anon
>>106813703
that's the fucked up thing anon, i live in a place where we don't even need ACs, but this last 2 months my bill was 400 pesotes, and everything was the same except the pc not being in use (2 washer machines, a dryer, 1 tv and the xbox being used regularly whenever i come back from work)

>>106813735
I had never heard about contact frames before, thanks
>>106813761
I'll be looking into it.
distilled water isn't the best for radiators, idk why it would be different for computers.

>>106813759
Can you people posting builds please copy the link in the upper left hand side instead of just a screenshot?

>>106813759
Do research on those HDDs if you must have them. I know the common normal advice now is "all consumer CMR is actually SMR in disguise" but maybe certain models are not. At the very least be aware of what you're buying.

>>106813819
Sorry I was just doing what I saw others do. Here is a link to the build. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VKrYkf

>>106813767
Because you're here forever and can ask again for the next OLED to consume whenever it dies.

>>106813826
Will do, I've had the WD blue for over a decade now it's never failed me. Seems like the best choice for raw video storage. The prices of the reds are much higher. I could get 2 of the blues for almost one nas red.

>>106813618
>You're brown though.
Just because all you see is a sea of shit around you doesn't mean the rest of the world is like that.

why are all the “NVIDIA doesn’t care about gamers they only want to do AI” people suddenly celebrating AMD selling a bunch of AI GPUs

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>>106813759
>two of the same ssd instead of one
Feeling vindicated about my last posts questioning this trend but c'mon man. Even on pcpartpicker you can see price/GB.

>>106813867
I was thinking more about backup. If I have everything on one ssd and it fails I have no functioning computer. Also I've heard its better to have windows and random programs on one and games on another. But I'm open to any suggestions.
Also how is crucial in general? I wasn't sure if it was worth spending more to upgrade to WD or Samsung. I don't do anything but gaming and I don't stream. Would the extra speeds or whatever they offer help me?

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>>106813874
You buy Samsung(probably WD too) drives because they'll last long enough to be in your next build, and so you don't have to worry about drives failing. Pic very related. Personally? I don't see a point in going for those 13000MB/s, they just run hot. You're probably not noticing the difference between that and 7500MB/s in everyday use.

>>106813902
>I don't see a point in going for those 13000MB/s, they just run hot. You're probably not noticing the difference between that and 7500MB/s in everyday use
Sorry I'm retarded I don't really know what you are referring to here.

Anyone have experience with the Asus PG27UCDM? It compares to the G81SF and the MSI 27" 4k OLED.

I am set on the 27" 4k OLED meme because muh pixel density (and it fits my current monitor arms).

>>106813917
You asked if it was worth getting the faster drives, those are both the higher end drives(9100 Pro) and mid end drives(990 pro).

I need big, cheap, preferably fast 3.5" SATA drives. What's the best way to get them? By big I mean >=16GB

>sibling just called me to troubleshoot her PC
>Random white dot artifacting
>They move around so they're not dead pixels
Chat, is the GPU cooked?

>>106813921
>G81SF
Right off the bat, that one's matte for better or worse (mostly worse) while the other two options are glossy.
Between the ASUS & MSI, the ASUS model pushes the Samsung QD-OLED panel harder so it gets brighter in SDR and has Dolby Vision HDR support which the MSI lacks.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/msi-mpg-272urx-qd-oled-vs-asus-rog-swift-oled-pg27ucdm/88032/88031

You can also consider the Dell Alienware AW2725Q which has Dolby Vision support and is otherwise the cheapest 4K@240Hz panel but doesn't have DP 2.1 support so it can't do full 4K@240Hz 10-Bit RGB without using DSC.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yjG2FT/alienware-aw2725q-267-3840-x-2160-240-hz-monitor-aw2725q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBjB5ZUAfAE

Also if you crave good PPI and this is gonna be an investment monitor for you, might wanna wait and save up for the 27" 5K QD-OLEDs that'lll be announced at CES, see >>106812015

>>106813964
if you want 16TB SSDs be prepared to pay north of $5000

>>106814052
Yee I was looking at the RTINGs shit on that, I think the G81 is a no go for me due to the issues present in the G80 tend to exist in the G81 also.

>might wanna wait and save up for the 27" 5K QD-OLEDs that'lll be announced at CES
This is tempting but is there a real ETA on them releasing anytime soon? And I can only imagine the pricing will be retarded. The tandem OLEDs that are coming out on some panels is neat for the brightness, but I havent seen any in 4k 27" noted either.

I had considered some of the Mini LED options because they are a nice middle ground, but they cost nearly as much as the OLEDs for any of them with a decent amount of dimming zones and force me to 32"

I am really at an impasse due to wanting 4k and 27" but I am fine with my middling 1440p IPS for a bit more. I know its probably ass but I want a buy once cry once monitor that will last 5+ years ideally.

How do I find hynix m die ram? pcpartpicker doesn't have a way to search for it. Is it even something I need if I'm not a super user?

>>106812918
I remember hearing or reading somewhere that x3d chips are essentially enterprise server chips that for whatever reason made it to the home consumer market so they should already be pre binned and have good power consumption out of the box.

>>106814111
>This is tempting but is there a real ETA on them releasing anytime soon? And I can only imagine the pricing will be retarded. The tandem OLEDs that are coming out on some panels is neat for the brightness, but I havent seen any in 4k 27" noted either.
The models were announced at CES (beginning of Jan) and started making their ways on order sites by end of March according to DisplayNinja's daily update changelog:
https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/2/24334049/asus-samsung-msi-27-inch-4k-oled-240hz-monitors
https://www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor/
I doubt they'll be that expensive since, like GPUs, there will be many OEMs competing while using the same panel so price differentiation will be a factor and Samsung can't charge too much to OEMs anyway since they are competing with LG's WOLEDs. We all thought the 27" 4K models released this year were gonna be well over $1000 at launch, when what happened is they launched at $700-1000 and the 1440p models that were selling for that price last year just got pushed down into the $500-600 range. I expect a repeat of that next year.

>I am really at an impasse due to wanting 4k and 27" but I am fine with my middling 1440p IPS for a bit more. I know its probably ass but I want a buy once cry once monitor that will last 5+ years ideally.
Then I'd probably just wait as once you get into 27"5K (220 PPI) territory, that's tablet/phone-level pixel density which uniquely helps OLEDs with their non-striped RGB layout. Also since it'll be the same next-gen panel tech Samsung employs on their newer 500Hz 1440p models that just came out now they should also get a Higher True Black HDR Cert (better brightness/more relaxed ABL) than the current 4K models too.

>>106814219
Thanks for the info.

You make a compelling argument to hold off on the OLED, that 5K panel really solves most of my gripes with current gen OLED desu, brightness and mediocre HDR performance. I know the TVs are better in this regard but they are fuckhuge with middling refresh rates plus their pixel density is way lower.

I was doing a lot more research lately and it just seems like HODL is the way to go all around. Reeeeeeeee

>>106812087
yeah I remember a youtubers saying a thing has 3 year burn in warranty but it makes sense that they write the warranties the way they do
Users can obviously fuck with the display, use it in a weird way that may cause burn in
The wording allows them to consider the case and reject people doing shit like intentionally burning in a monitor to get a new unit close to warranty end period while saying "we'll replace ALL burn in that happens in 3 years of purchase date" is exploitable.

>>106813396
>These mobos seem to come with 3 m2 slots, top (mostly over or under the gpu, almost almost heatsink), and then 2 more. if i leave one free and then install the bottom one do they still throttle? I wont use SATA SSD or HDD.
Google " [motherboards name] manual" and the first result should be the official site where you can check the manual as a pdf. The section that explains how to install m.2 drives should say how each drive impacts other ports and connectors. That said, usually this only effects extra pcie slots and sata ports. The top pcie slot will usually still run at Gen 5 x16, so as long as you don't need sata or other pcie cards, it shouldn't matter.

>>106812758
I'd have to order those online, and the shipping alone is gonna be like $50-80USD at least. My first thought was to take the ones off my current DIMMs but they're g.skill so i'm not sure if they'd fit. Might not even be worth it, since my temps are normally fine, since I've been fine w/o xmp for a year anyway.

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>>106814248
NP, also takes this as a grain of salt but I remember vaguely reading somewhere on AVS Forum during during coverage from possibly either CES or some other tradeshow this year that Samsung's plan for last year, this year, and next was/is to get pixel density up to snuff to fight pixel fringing on small panel/IT segments which are currently selling more a lot better than their big-ass OLED TVs are (and at better margins), and then in 2027 to then turn their internal roadmap attention to improving brightness as they are waiting on not-yet-ready tech like High Efficiency TADF Blue PHOLED and MAX OLED to come online.
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1732261280
https://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsung-and-lg-unveil-dazzling-new-display-concepts-at-sid-2025

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>>106814349
The panels are coming a long way thank fuck.

That road map for displays on display ninja is really really useful. Basically I need to be responsible and sit on my hands a bit longer and there will be some options fitting what I really want soon™

Gives me a chance to recoup some of my 5090 cost anyway KEK

>>106813654
nigga theres legit something wrong with your electricity
theres no way you use 500usd of electricity every month with just some washers, a tv and an Xbox
someone fucked with your gauge hombre get it checked

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Can I run two 1440p monitors from 7900x + b650m hdv/m.2, I can run it physically, but can the iGPU handle it? Or do I need a dGPU? It's just browsing and work. The first monitor is 1440p 240hz, the second is 4k 60hz.

>>106814388
if the gpu doesnt reach >90% utilization it should be fine?
it depends on how the apps use the gpu

>>106813759
you dont need an x870 you retard
are you gonna use the usb4 for real?
>what is-
exactly, unless you can tell me why you need usb4 and fucked up split lanes for the nvme and gpu
change it to a b850, same model if you want
power supply is good, just DONT get the one that says rm-e
the e ones use taiwanese capacitors and those are trash, chinks still cant get them right
rm-x uses japanese capacitors and those are good

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>>106811009
>that fucking tv

>>106814388
yes

if not just pick up a gt 1030 or something for $40

>>106814420
brown irl

>>106813759
You can get an sk Hynix P41 Platinum or Samsung 990 Evo Plus on newegg for roughly the same cost as the crucial p3 right now, and those are both much better drives

>>106814395
>>106814429
It does reach full utilization, I might be retarded, but I get slow down only when using edge, other apps, its fine. RAM, CPU and SSD usage are no where close to full usage, only the GPU.

is there any other nvme comparable to the sn850x with 4tb?
I already have the 990 pro as the OS drive but I wanna know if theres an alternative to the 850x

>>106813759
Get SN8100, SN850X or T705 or T710. You can do better on ssd. https://ssd.borecraft.com/SSD_Buying_Guide.png

For RAM, make sure its DDR5 6000.

PSU is fine, why not get Super Flower Leadex VII or Leadex III? For PSUs, check this: https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>>106814454
Comparable in terms of what? Check the high end section of this: https://ssd.borecraft.com/SSD_Buying_Guide.png

>>106814424
that left hand looks worse than mine (i'm left-handed)

>>106814429
GT1030 specifically sounds torturous, even for light use at 1440P. but any $150-250 GPU released after 2018 should be able to handle it (if you can find prices that low)
>>106814442
>I get slow down only when using edge
alternatively, just use any other browser bc i also use edge for work exclusively and can also note worse performance. even images i open in edge look grainier than in firefox

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What would be the desktop equivalent to this?
https://www.bestbuy.com/product/lenovo-legion-pro-5i-16-2-5k-oled-gaming-laptop-intel-core-ultra-9-275hx-32gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070ti-2tb-ssd-eclipse-black/JJGSH8TFG9

>>106814529
13400, 5050

>>106814533
Really? Why do you say that?
https://nanoreview.net/en/gpu-compare/geforce-rtx-5070-ti-laptop-vs-geforce-rtx-4070
https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-ultra-9-275hx-vs-intel-core-i7-14700kf

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>>106814613
It's a laptop. The heatsink is worse than the $2 cooler that comes in the box when you buy a low end cpu.

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>>106811009
>5090
Looking for the best CPU and RAM to pair with an RTX 5090 for number crunching.

>t. built a very nice gaming system that paired 9800X3D + 32gb@6000 + RTX5080 thanks to advice from here but am unsure if a 9800X3D with 32gb RAM is going to bottleneck it.
I read somewhere that I should aim to double system memory over VRAM for such tasks.
Looking for advice.

>>106814724
If your number crunching takes advantage of AVX, get a 16 core ryzen. If it's just SSE based you can look at arrow lake too.

>>106814724
What do you mean by "number crunching"? Is it heavily parallelised? Can you do it on CUDA?
Also, are you going to upgrade your current rig or build a new one?

>>106814724
If you're just gaming then the 9800x3d and 32gb ram is still the best option
If you need more cores for code compilation, rendering, etc. then the 9950x3d will be the only upgrade over the 9800x3d. More than 32gb ram is only needed on a case by case basis

>>106814632
>96%
Imagine it, actually imagine it. Being a dumb average consumer who knows next to nothing and is even confident in their lack of knowledge, and then becoming the proud owner of a very expensive 5050 Super.

>>106814762
More than 32gigs of ram are always usefull, it's no longer 2020

>>106813993
Probably gpu's vram going bad
Possible to fix in specialty shops but the repair cost may be prohibitively high and make more sense to replace the entire GPU

>>106812513
>Don't buy the worst 5070ti
>>106812589
>Otherwise decent build, shame about the gpu
Is there a tier list out there of the "better" 5070TI ranked or something?

>>106815009
Avoid the ventus, Asus prime, gigabyte wind force, gigabyte aero sff and pny oc
The rest are fair game

>>106814343
xmp makes a difference for esports games and doing a bunch of multi-tasking, or cpu-reliant games, if you have super-slow ram cpu-heavy games will likely stutter or not take full advantage of the gpu and bottleneck faster. But for a low-end, 1080poverty rig playing low-spec games, you don't 'need' it no.

>>106815009
i was just memeing as a Nvidia hater don't mind me, MSI make good enough gpu shrouds i don't hear much bad about them.

Uhh where are the deals? I was told amazon prime day would have tons of deals but there's barely anything. Do I really need to wait for black friday?

>>106815030
? asus prime is a good model

>>106815009
Ventuses are the loudest and hottest running of the air coolers made by the various AIBs. The Shadow SKU is just a black Ventus.

>>106815096
BF/CM/PD are all usually crap for main components and have been for a decade+. Surprised people still say to wait for them.

>>106815096
That's all a scam little nibba. They increase prices before giving you "insane" deals

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I love my 5070 so fucking much bwos... for the first time in my life I can download the latest and gratest slop, even unoptimized UE5 zlop, and run it at "Digital Foundry optimized settings" with minimal graphical compromises, at 1440p DLSS Quality, and get over 60 FPS. 144+ FPS with 2x FrameGen if available.

>>106815096
im gonna buy a replacement g402 mouse since its at 35€ when usually is at 45-50 (although it has been as low as 30 at some point), an air fryer and a new vacuum since i always wanted a bagless "broom vacuum" or whatever they are called and they seem to be fairly discounted.
However in pc parts all i see is stuff with -5% discounts, still have to check monitors tho

>>106811009
COMPUTERS ARE FOR NERDS

>>106815177
at raster, how does the 5070 compare to the 6950xt?

>>106812268
>TV
>No displayport
>only HDMI
Yeah go look at actual PC monitors dude

>>106815203
There's nothing wrong with HDMI, monitors don't get bigger than 40 inches and those are fucked up usually.

What can cause the death of a motherboard?

>>106815245
Your mother's vagina

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>Bought the 5080 pny for 920 usd before prime deal day
>Check the deals today
>No 5080 deals
safe

>>106815294
PRIME GAY IS HERE!!! thanks anon

Prime Gay is the anniversary of my build!

I got my 6950xt last year. they also had watercooled 6900xt on sale, idk, maybe I should have done that instead, but I was lazy.

>>106812050
>>106812590
Good thing there's PTM7950 now to forego thermal past reapplication. Really fucking bothers me I built my PC this year and 2 weeks later find out about it

>>106815188
Probably similar? The 5070 is also similar to the 3090 Ti, the top end Nvidia GPU at the time of the 6950XT. In either case I'd rather have a 5070 because it's brand new and guaranteed to get driver updates for 10 years, while the 6950XT and 3090 Ti might be EoL before 2030.
Even if I end up upgrading and putting the 5070 aside, it can always be resold (higher price if still supported and viable) or repurposed in a casual gaming PC for a younger family member or living room TV.

>>106815370
Well, the 5070 absolutely will wreck the 6950xt at ai stuff.

It's really crazy, when I got my gpu I considered getting something else, and really wasn't sure. I considered the gre for example. or even an xtx. anyway, I'm glad I waited, because Celestial will be better for ai, and the 6950xt is a great match for my gaming uses (my most advanced game is rdr2 - I'm just not willing to spend $70 on a mere game (I will on a sim)).

>>106815245
bad power supply
low quality components (msi)

>>106815400
>low quality components (msi)
I'm poor enough to kind of aspire to buy msi lol

>>106815245
mars in retrograde
cosmic rays hitting the chipset
spilling water/vodka on it
enabling EXPO and the VRMs explode

>>106815226
>There's nothing wrong with HDM
>monitors don't get bigger than 40 inches and those are fucked up usually
Hdmi was made for Audio equipment and tv's not PC's dickhead are you retarded there is a reason no TV's have maybe go find out why and stop being dumb also monitors exist past 40 inches and they are extremely good you just can't afford one because you are poor

>trolling outside of /b/

>>106815476
He's right though. (I don't know which post you're referring to because you forgot to link it.)

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>>106815245
inserting an AMD CPU in the socket

>>106815554
That's just seasoning. It might look wrong if you're coming from a non-stick motherboard but it's supposed to look like that.

>>106815554
Has that been documented to occur without a bad power connector / connection?

>>106815456
What about Venus in retrograde?

>>106815648
memory errors

How hard is it to actually fix a gpu? There is a broken 3080 being sold here for 40€

>>106815840
depends on whats broken. can you solder?

>>106815848
Yeah I can do a bit of soldering. Had to fix a faulty charger just a few weeks ago. No idea whats wrong with it. Ad just says fans work but no image comes on.

Are Nvidia driver problems as bad as people say? Should I get an AMD GPU?

>>106815554
>reverse image search
>reddit
whats your acc name?

>>106815895
I don't know, I only ever had Fermi, Kepler and Maxwell cards and those are complete shit
Supposedly the newer generations are better. They finally made it after faking it for 20 years.

>>106815869
If you have to ask this question, you can't fix a GeePeeYou. Look at any number of hardware repair channels on Youtube like northwestrepair and realize what you are trying to do.

>>106815953
I meant Pascal not Maxwell

>>106815954
For a cheap price its worth trying, if for nothing else but to mess about with the card itself.

>>106814752
>>106814758
>>106814762
Building a brand new rig.
The stuff I'm doing will likely need to be re-written but it's large-scale parallel hashing using CUDA, such as Hashcat and Vanitysearch. Appreciate the help.

>>106816033
Thanks. What >>106814752 says is basically correct i.e. go Ryzen if you use AVX512 and Intel is an option if not. I say "an option" because the 9950X and 285K are so close in terms of raw power as to make the choice contingent on software specifics. I'm also assuming here that you still need a strong CPU to keep the GPU and RAM fed.
As for the RAM itself the standard 6000C30 would apply on AMD while Intel can drive 6800-7200 quite comfortably (obviously don't push it on a workstation). Capacity-wise go 2x32GB minimum and 2*48GB if the budget allows it. 2x64GB is also possible now but can't clock as high.

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>>106814762
>More than 32gb ram is only needed on a case by case basis
NTA but does this only apply for whatever that anon is doing? I recently got a new PC and it "only" has 32GB. It seemed like it'd be enough for gaming, but I've seen it go up above 25GB when playing UE5 games, which makes me think soon we might need 48GB as a baseline instead of 32GB. I wasn't even running much background software, imagine if I was recording/streaming and had more than my baseline 15 browser tabs open?

>>106815245
Isn’t Heat the most common cause?

Is 56-58°C OK VRAM temperature in gaming workload straight after thermal pad replacement? GPU is Sapphire RX 6700 XT Nitro+, pads are Thermalright Extreme Odyssey.

Rate my poorfag new build.
Ryzen 7 5700x
32gb ram ddr4 (2x16)
gtx 1060 6gb

>>106816377
Did you dig up the GPU out of a trash can? You can find 6600 and 3060 for sub-200 bucks and they'll be leagues ahead of the 1060. Hell you can find a 3080 for 300 bucks, presumably what you paid for the rest of the PC, which is more powerful than a 5060 Ti.

>>106816307
Yeah sure there will be a time when 64GB is normal for pure gaming rigs. Frankly that time is now if you're working with a $2000+ budget but in your case you've got 7GB+ left; plenty of buffer for apps+tabs.

>>106816401
Forgot to mention that the 1060 wasn't an upgrade, that's just what I'm using. It's going to be a bottleneck for a while till I can afford a 3060.

>>106816377
Can't you go for AM5 for a *new* build? IIRC, R5 7600 performs either on par or slightly better than 5700X in every task and DDR5 is not that costly. Not to mention a much more promising upgrade path.
GPU is kind of lacklustre too, consider like used RX 6600 or something. 8 GB of VRAM is a must.

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I'm back with more concrete PC build questions.

So I decided that I'm definitely getting a 9800X3D.
What cooler do I get for it? I don't care about the noise, I just want to keep it nice and frosty.

I'm PROBABLY getting RTX 5080 for my GPU, but what manufacturer do I pick? I don't want lights but it's not a dealbreaker - I just don't want my GPU to fucking melt. Which one is the most reliable/isn't stupidly expensive?

What is the optimal RAM for a 9800X3D? I'm thinking 64 gigs but I think it might be a severe overkill.

Most importantly, what MOBO? No cheapshit here, I want to avoid gay and retarded MOBO issues. Full size only.

I don't have a case or PSU yet in mind but I'm thinking 1000W. Open to case recommendations.

I appreciate all (You)s.

>>106816431
Save money and build a proper PC lil nigga.

>>106816488
It's perfectly fine for him to get CPU + mobo + RAM combo and then replace the already existing GPU when it's convenient. That is precisely the greatest thing about PC building.

>>106815294
>pny
Enjoy your molten gpu

>>106816560
>Enjoy your molten gpu
Why? PNY always did an excellent job on Quadro GPUs. Did they screw something up?

>>106816481
5080 is a scam. Get a 5070 Ti and pocket the change, or invest it into a fancier MOBO and faster RAM.

>>106816579
maybe anon saw a reddit post about pny cards

>>106816579
Sorry, not molten, I meant more like literally exploded. And it wasn't even under load. Would avoid that brand.

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>>106816598
Cool but I'm not downgrading my GPU to old shit, nigger. Give me concrete advice or fuck off with your *adjusts glasses* HEH THAT GPU IS SHIT and then providing 0 actual advice. Even telling me an example of a "fancy MOBO" would be good enough.

>>106816619
>downgrading to old shit
With the 5080 you overpay a lot for little benefit over the 5070 Ti, not even more VRAM.
A fancy MOBO would be something with USB 4 ports that support 20GBit or faster speeds, for example.

>>106816615
>Would avoid that brand
I don't know, PNY in Nvidia Quadro realm for decades had the same reputation as Sapphire in the world of ATI/AMD GPUs.

>>106816635
>overpay
I'm getting a 5080 for EXACT SAME PRICE as I could get a 4070 Ti. Do you have an actual advice or LLM-tier diarrhea?

>>106816651
FIFTY SEVENTY TEE AYY you blind motherfucker

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>>106816481
>9800x3d
Good
>5080
Retarded. Either 5070ti or 5090
>64gb
2x32gb 6000cl30 but only worth it if you do ai shit or video editing
>mobo
Tomahawk b850 mag max. It's one of the best
>psu
All new builds should have 1000 minimum. Less is retarded and cucking yourself out of the best gpus

>pny slander
what a weird timeline we're in

i shant be taking a mihoyo poster seriously

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Post above me is very homosexual

>>106816664
Thanks for confirming my biases, anon, especially on PSUs.

Any RAM/PSU manufacturer recommendations? I'm thinking of getting SMX because it's cheap.
Also could use a roomy case rec too.

>>106816664
>All new builds should have 1000 minimum
If you were to run two 5080 in SLI — sure. Otherwise, 850 is more than enough.

Just got done ordering my parts for my build any comment on it?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kZbdZc

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/pcbg/ is an /hsrg/ colony

>>106816817
Why is your mobo more expensive than your cpu?

>>106816817
Yup, you could easily fit 9070 into that build if you didn't waste your money on the cooler and super overpriced RAM.
>muh ITX
>muh white build
>muh RGB
*pukes*

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>>106816885
>kafka still trash
>dark March resorted to cum squirter
Shan't be installing that trash on my new pc

>>106816887
I really wanted that mobo model in particular and I figured I could always upgrade my CPU later but I doubt the need will ever rise for me to do it.

>>106816894
>white bashing
I didn't know /pcbg/ was full of brownoids

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>>106816916
Hysilens is pretty good and Kafker is essentially required to play her, meaning Kafker is pretty good as well.
March only does the cum squirt animation once per battle unless you're doing something wrong kek

>>106816936
But he's kinda right though, you could've allocated more money on your GPU if you didn't buy some other overpriced stuff.

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>>106816937
Even if so, Amorpheus killed the game for me. Im a ZZZGod only now

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>>106813993
Try the easy test first - different video cable.
And given it's your sister, try the entire monitor on a different system of known quantities.

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>>106816817
That monitor's got an older Gen 2 QD-OLED panel; it's supposedly more prone to burn-in than newer panels.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/gen-4-samsung-qd-oled-2025-panels-and-improvements

>>106816970
I wanna fuck Belle

>>106817014
How much time does it usually take before the burn in sets in on the screen?

>>106816355
Yeah that's good if anything.

>>106817118
>>106817118
>>106817118

>>106814093
Mechanical drives are probably fine here.

>>106812218
Normal people:
>optimize for cooling
The mentally ill:
>optimize for lack of sound

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>>106817052
Based

>>106815188
you're literally interacting with a shill-AI anon.

>>106815245
bad psu is usually the fault, moisture getting into the ram slots/cpu socket causing a short, or a bad attempt to flash a bios can fuck up the cmos chip hypothetically.

Sometimes its just your cmos battery being dead, then you can just source a new one and be fine.