>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. 1.4V or 1.45V CPU VR voltage limit recommended.

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

first for i love my 5070 so fucking much bwos...

is buying a thermal pad instead of thermal paste a meme?
this is for my brother who lives in another country and is gonna have the pc built by a friend
im confident on the paste being applied at the time of building but im also confident my brother will never, ever, under any circumstance reapply the paste so i wonder if a pad is a more permanent solution

>>106817143
The pads aren't a meme, they're a bit pricey though, but you can reuse it so it's a trade off.

>>106817143
Reapplying paste is a meme. My i5-10400F has been running daily for 5 years on initial paste.
>inb4 >65W TDP
Yeah, like most CPUs?

>>106817152
i dont mind having him pay 10 bucks or whatever if i know that the pad will provide the thermal support until the rest of the pc crumbles

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Daily reminder to cool down your memory sticks

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First draft of a build.
Would love any and all criticism
I have no idea what cooler i picked, i just went through the ones in the OC and picked one that was in german amazon. I do want an AIO cooler on this computer if possible
The case i picked is also opened to change, i just thought it was big and looked good.
Also the 5070TI model picked could switch to a different model if needed
Do i want a bit more ram? 2x24 maybe?
This is ONLY to play vidya at 1440p for a handful of years and do some light office work
Again any and all criticism is more than welcome, the only caveat is that all pieces have to come from amazon germany.
Thank you all

>>106817203
This time im gonna even link the build

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/nHXFv4

Also do i need a 1k w power supply? is not like the 850w are that much cheaper

>>106817210
9900x is bad choice for vidya
1000w is overkill for that unless you want to upgrade to a 90 class card in the future

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my 5080 comes in tomorrow bros

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>>106817224
>9900x is bad choice for vidya
switched it to a similarly priced 7800x3d or should i check a different one? the extra 200 for the 9800x3d is a bit too much
>1000w is overkill for that unless you want to upgrade to a 90 class card in the future
For the little i would save with an 850 i think ill keep it just in case
Thank you a lot

>>106817203
>This is ONLY to play vidya at 1440p for a handful of years and do some light office work
With that in mind, here's some critique.

>CPU
Get 7800X3D or 9800X3D if budget permits. 12 cores doesn't get you anything for gaming and the dual-CCD design actually hinders things.
>Cooler
Not that you need an AIO for any of the CPUs mentioned but if you really want one it might as well be 280/360mm.
>Motherboard
There doesn't seem to be any savings from going B650 nowadays so might as well up this to B850. Also be advised that the WiFi chipsets on AM5 boards tend to be pretty poor. If you need WiFi as anything more than a backup you ought to add it yourself (or change out the M.2 card).
>SSD
Could downgrade without performance loss if you need to make budget.
>Case
It is good but damned expensive and somewhat wasted on an AIO-cooled rig. If you want to spend some money on aesthetics that's fine but do be aware that you will need some fans - the O11D range is made for custom watercooling so they don't include any.
>PSU
1kW isn't strictly necessary but there's no downside to having it if you can afford it.

What GPU is the most worthwhile between the 9070 XT and the 4080 super?

>>106817272
The x3d shit only helps in certain games.

I personally got a 9700X instead of a 7800x3D because none of the games I regularly play benefit from the x3D cache. The 9700X is more stable and far lower power draw/heat.

>>106817294
depends on pricing

>4080 super didn't add anymore vram
>the 5080 super will just cuz
is this copium

>>106817308
>The 9700X is more stable and far lower power draw/heat.
They have the same stock power limit of 88W.

>>106817272
9900X is basically two 6 core Ryzen 5 niggas in a trench coat. In gaming only one nigga will work at a time instead of taking the time for both of them to coordinate action.
In technical terms, the 9900X has two CCD's, each 6-core, and these elements have latency to communicate with each other, which is detrimental for gaming, so it lobotomizes itself into a 9600X for gaming purposes.
So basically you can either save money and get a 9600/X, get a 9700/X for 8 real cores in one CCD, or get the 7800X3D/9800X3D for high FPS esports slop gayming.

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Hello /g/ sorry in advance for not knowing much about computers but I need a 2nd opinion
My pc broke while I was frustrated and broke it so I went to a PC repair shop to take a look at it, I told him I thought the issue was the power supply socket, but he took a look at it and said no, the white light meant the motherboard was borked and it would be less of a hassle to buy a new pc
Maybe a screw got loose or something during the carride idk but he disagreed
I know it's not a software issue but a hardware issue
Had this pc before covid

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>>106817292
>With that in mind, here's some critique.
>CPU
already moved to the 7800x3d, if i can find an extra 200 somewhere ill think about the 9800x3d
>Cooler
ill check on a bigger cooler then
>Motherboard
The b850 is about 80€ more expensive but i would consider it, i rather stick to more modern tech overall
>SSD
Im fine with that one i want at least 2tb, that one seems well reviewed, i might consider another if i end up on a point that those 20€ or so of difference become a break point
>Case
I just picked that one as a literal placeholder, ill keep in mind that i might need extra fans on whatever case i pick
>PSU
Thats what i thought myself

Thank you kindly anon.

>>106817308
the 7800X3D draws sub 50w during gaming

>>106817364
If the motherboard is borked just replace it with a new one? Look on the used market for cheap mobos of the same socket and chipset.

>>106817294
You probably won't get a 4080 super close to msrp so maybe just go 9070 XT

>>106817364
>My pc broke while I was frustrated and broke it
I need to proof read -_-
I was frustrated with the Internet and so I moved it thinking it would catch the WiFi better them it froze

>>106817395
They told me it was 700 to fix it
Guess you think he's wrong

>>106817368
>if i can find an extra 200 somewhere ill think about the 9800x3d
If you like but know that you don't really need it to drive a 5070Ti at 1440p. In fact it might be better to pocket the money and put it towards an EoL AM5 upgrade in a few years.

>The b850 is about 80€ more expensive but i would consider it
Given that you're just gaming it probably doesn't need to be a ToTL model. There's plenty of B850s for ~160€. Nothing wrong with the B650 Tomahawk either if its feature set is well-aligned with your requirements.

>>106817364
could be bullshit
not enough info
what motherboard and what white light

>>106817404
Something got loose. Turn it off and remove the power cable. Remove the graphics card and put it back in. Should be fixed.

>>106817413
Even if it's not an easy fix like >>106817430 suggested, worst case, if it's a broken MOBO, you just buy a new mobo! Even on rare sockets it can't be more than 100 bucks for a working used one. You lose nothing by replacing the MOBO, there is no risk that could lead to data loss or anything. There's no reason to pay him crazy money to "fix" it.

Prime day deals suck fucking huge cock's here

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>>106817421
I assume this white light, he said this light tells me it's broken
>what motherboard
You mean like the model? Uhhh I wish I could check lol

>>106817430
>>106817439
OK I thought that could be it
Thanks I'll look for a Philips now

>>106817474
Be careful theres a latch that holds the card to the motherboard in addition to the screw

>>106817458
He just wants to steal your parts and sell them
Scumbag

>>106817183
No need.
55°C while running fluffy doughnut and testmem at the same time, so the worst case scenario.

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>>106817480
>>106817493
Before I go I told him I thought the issue was picrel
I guess it was up against the wall so the socket, not the plug, is now a weird angle, I managed to get it propped against a wall but it slipped and the pc froze again
But I'll try to get the loose part all tight first

>>106817543
I guess you figured out the issue. That part is called the Power Supply Unit, PSU

>>106817575
Kay so how would I fix it that? Can I just prop it up with tape or would I need to replace it entirely?

>>106817587
If you can somehow fix it with tape without blocking too many air flow holes that is a good, free fix.

>>106817603
Think superglue could work as well?

>>106817616
It could potentially work but it makes a mess. You would have to get it right the first time.

>>106817623
Very well
Thanks anons

>>106817326
GDDR7 has 2GB and 3GB chips, for GDDR6X 2GB was the limit.
Doubling the memory for 4080S would be too good of a deal for many because it was possible to clamshell. 4080S was also cheaper than 4080, hypothetically at least.

What are good ATX cases who doesn’t cost too much?

>>106817640
You don't have to remove your graphics card if the power supply plug is the issue.

>>106817458
>>106817543
Did you put this together yourself? If so, can't you check the manual of the motherboard or email the manufacturer to check what the light means?
The power supply does look damaged, but the cable looks to be sitting straight into it, so it's hard for us to tell if it's cosmetic damage or something serious. Post the model of the motherboard, power supply, and the case.

Also, can you tell us what part of the startup process does the computer fail at? It lights up which suggests there's some amount of power in it? If it can't get into the BIOS it might be a motherboard issue. If it looks like it's loading the BIOS/OS but just powers itself off (especially if with a click or ka-chunk sound from the power supply), it could be a power supply issue.

>>106817663
It was prebuilt
I had a peg of all the specs but well yknow
It does turn on and light up but as I mentioned here >>106817543
I got it to work for a minute or 2 by propping up the wire so the socket was straight and I managed to log in, before it slipped and it froze

>>106817711
Jpeg* not peg
Tho I think with the info I gave I think specs and all that is unnecessary info

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/2Z2ZNz

Thoughts on this?

PSU and CPU cooler are going to be 1000W obscure Polish company PSU and 220 TDP aircooler from the same company.

>>106817292
>dual-CCD design actually hinders things.
XD

>>106817845
get 6000 cl30 memory kit unless you want to spend ages fiddling and tuning the memory

>>106817118
Will undervolting the CPU fix the burnt issue in the ASRock motherboard? I am currently using an R5 9600x and an ASRock B850 Pro-A motherboard.

>>106817118
ANY GOOD DEALS ON AMAZON PRIME DAY?????!!!

AAAAAH FOMO

>>106817711
>>106817724
Sounds like the PSU is not working if you know it was damaged and it works or doesn't work depending on physically moving the PSU cable. If it powers itself off (which is not at all the same thing as "freezing"), then that all but confirms it. Don't try and fix the cable or the PSU slot unless it jiggles itself back into place, broken PSUs can be dangerous.

Not knowing the specs, it's impossible to say if the light means the mobo is working or not. If you can get into Windows, type System Information into Start menu and it should list the models of the parts, including "baseboard" which is another term for motherboard.
Not knowing the GPU or CPU, it's hard to say how much it's worth repairing as opposed to replacing broken parts. Especially since you didn't say what your currency was, but if it's USD, 700 seems like highway robbery to replace the motherboard (and/or?) PSU on an older and possibly lower-tier system. 700 or higher but sub-1000 can get a decent and more modern system.

>>106818040
>Don't try and fix the cable or the PSU slot
So what do I do then? Get someone else to replace it?
Might go to bed soon

>>106818217
Buy another one. You don't fix PSUs.

>>106818244
Kay I think I know a place to find parts

>>106817979
Just don't run soc voltage so high

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I just decided to go for what's recommended here but if anything could be a bit better, any help would be welcome.
The things on green I already have.
It's gonna be mostly for videogames and emulation.

>>106818307
too many nvme drives, they will steal your gpu lanes

>>106818318
The third M.2 slot shares bandwidth with the /chipset/ x16 slot. Not the main one for the GPU.

>>106818307
Unless you are going to upgrade GPU soon 9800X3D is overkill.
Get 1 bigger NVME instead of two smaller ones, more room for upgrade later on.
Other than that solid cookie cutter build.

>>106818307
I would not buy 1TB NVMe drives, it's better to maximize capacity per M.2 slot within a reasonable cost.
SN8100 isn't overkill for a mostly gaming/emulation PC, the board's integrated heatsink may even thermal throttle the maximum performance of PCIe 5.0 drives.

>>106818415
Meant to say SN8100 IS overkill

>>106818318
only if you're actively pulling from each drive at the same time, while gaming, maybe. That is 2x too many small drives though, its pointless, wheres the upgrade path?

>>106815188
you're literally interacting with a shill-AI anon.

>>106815245
bad psu is usually the fault, moisture getting into the ram slots/cpu socket causing a short, or a bad attempt to flash a bios can fuck up the cmos chip hypothetically.

Sometimes its just your cmos battery being dead, then you can just source a new one and be fine.

>>106817210
just get a 750W supply, you got 300W max load on GPU + 120W max load on CPU. maybe 500W in some weird synthetic test with all SSDs and CPU and GPU loaded to max. I don't understand why people keep upping their power supplies "just to make sure"

>>106817264
enjoy it anon

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>>106817203
(me)
This is the updated part list

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/ty3jdb

Is there any glaring mistake? im still debating on the motherboard (might end up spending the extra 80 on getting a tomahawk/ better quality mobo)
And in a similar boat the case is right now a placeholder, im still not sure which case i might end up going with.
At this point im looking just for glaring mistakes or obvious better deals out there
Thank you very much

>>106818468
as i mentiones earlier i was debating on an 850w but it seemed like a small difference on price

>>106818479
i will also keep a 1tb ssd from my current rig with an emergency build of windows and shit, i dont like only having a single hard drive
the rest of my current pc i plan to give to a parent of one my kid's mates since he mentioned that he is using a shitty laptop

>>106818479
the board is fine, 6 55A driver mosfets is plenty for a little 8 core, questionable with a 12 or 16 core

>>106818479
>as i mentiones earlier i was debating on an 850w but it seemed like a small difference on price
there's 750W ones for $30 cheaper. power supply is ideology and religion area. trying to make sense with drones is useless. they "feel" better with 2000W supply, it's cheaper just 200$ extra. who knows...maybe they get a 1500W GPU in 23 years from now. might come in useful

>>106817845
whats up with the missing other half of the pc
if you dont plan to overclock your cpu which will at stock run at around 90C anyway, go for A620 chipset instead

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How badly am I fucking myself with this build?
I have no idea about am5 mobos other than I like asus but they're overpriced and I'm not putting a 9800x3d into an asrock board with all the reports of them killing the chip.
>why do you have a watercooled rtx5090
I dunno. It almost certainly doesn't do anything for performance but I want a quiet PC and 500 bucks aint that much.

>>106817845
>msi
brandfag lmao, at least get something that doesnt spend most of its R&D money on marketing instead

>>106818554
just get a 9950X3D doing all that and slapping a midrange CPU on it is retarded

>>106818605
Doesn't the 9950x3d only have 8 cores though?

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>>106817114
Thanks. Also did a Furmark run, 60°C edge, 76-78°C junction, 68-68°C memory at 60% fan speed (which is ~2200 RPM, I'm using a custom curve); correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it is acceptable, isn't it?

>even more pcpartpickers using multiple low capacity drives instead of one large drive
If you guys don't care about money that much then why aren't you buying faster drives? I don't get it.

>>106817183
no need
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeHEtULQg3Q

>>106818554
You're fucking yourself in the sense that you're extremely far into diminishing returns but that goes for any high-end build. The component selection is fine in that context though. You could trim a little at the margins but any 5090 build is going to run £3k+ and if you can afford that you can afford £5k.

>>106818633
Yes those are all good temps. Well within spec and decent headroom if you want to relax the fan curve for lower noise.

>>106818665
not everyone has micron rev E my dear
my hynix is very temperature sensitive forcing me to dial down my overclock from 1.4V to 1.35V
it would crash with a 120mm fan right on top of the sticks

>>106814508
GT1030 works just fine for the use case. I had one pushing a 4k60 television and 1080p60 side monitor just fine, in a deployment focused around watching videos. The only reason I ended up swapping it for an ARC A380 in that deployment is because I wanted to be able to watch AV1 encodes without the CPU spinning up to max and still dropping countless frames.

>>106818702
>not everyone has micron rev E my dear
yeah of course
honestly i don't even know how hot they get because crucial only put temperature sensors on the RGB sticks for some mysterious reason
>my hynix is very temperature sensitive forcing me to dial down my overclock from 1.4V to 1.35V
DDR5? might be worth dialing back some of the more temperature sensitive timings like tREFI if it means you can push more volts and lower other timings

>>106818626
It has 16, 8 cores have the X3D cache

>>106818747
no its ddr4 and 4 sticks right next to each other. it was summer I was drunk most of the time so I just dropped the clocks down to 3600 and voltage to 1.35
I'm sure I could have properly attached the fan and run 1.4 and 3733, I had the fan resting on the aio hoses, dont need the fan at 1.35

>>106818702
You could lower tREFI if you are running it maxed out.
My B-Die DDR4 were much more sensitive to temps than my Hynix A-die DDR5.
At 55°C at 1.45V 3600 14-14-14-28 320tRFC they got unstable, setting tRFC higher would fix that.
What temps did your sticks need to get unstable and what timings/frequency?

>>106818780
>it was summer I was drunk most of the time so I just dropped the clocks down to 3600 and voltage to 1.35
lol well if it works it works
with 4 sticks it might not necessarily be the voltage limiting your frequency, it can be the motherboard's memory topology or BIOS auto settings
>>106818804
sounds like he's on AM4 which doesn't have tREFI control (sad)

>>106818804
Hynix A-die literally doesn't care
Mine gets cooked by my 5090 to 57C and it's still stable as fuck at 1.4v vdd maxed tREFI and 133ns tRFC

>>106818804
no trefi on am4
no idea about temps but they should get unstable around 45-50 according to the 2 first result on google which is very low, reminds me of my Phenom II that would error out in stability tests the moment it reached 55 degrees
3733 16-20-20-36-56-504?-1t-GDM 1.4V
>>106818820
it's the memory controller in the cpu, the same board did 4000 4 sticks with a cezanne

>>106818684
Thanks again.
>if you want to relax the fan curve for lower noise
Nah, I'm good. Even now it's quieter than most of my previous GPUs.

>>106818747
>honestly i don't even know how hot they get because crucial only put temperature sensors on the RGB sticks for some mysterious reason
My crucial pro sticks have temp sensors iirc
I dont OC at all tho

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Where are the DEAAALS BEZos
He asked calmly

>>106818935
There are none, it's been crazy useless. Not got any hope for Black Friday now, I actually got some good deals with the one earlier this year.

>>106818957
Bf and new year is for sure better
But now that I see that tvs dip in price even after that maybe I should way until next year this time

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>>106818869
total stress testing time: 10 minutes
>>106818874
not saying you're wrong but you can gain a lot of stability on 4 sticks by adjusting VDDP, terminations and drive strengths
you can use my old setup as inspiration if you want, it's the lower right section of zentimings
it got rid of those random errors after 2 hours i would get even at XMP settings
RTTs might like 6/3/3 or 7/3/3 instead, drive strengths might like 40/20/20/24 or 20/20/20/24 instead
>>106818886
>My crucial pro sticks have temp sensors iirc
that's cool
i think those might overclock a little worse though because ballistix kits were binned, it was the best rev E you could get
(if you got rev E in a corsair kit it was almost guaranteed to be garbage lmao)

>>106818874
Some timings will fuck up temp threshold for stability.
1.4V might be high for certain DDR4 ICs, there is no fit-all solution.
>Shit motherboard
Crashes
>Shit IMC
Crashes
>Shit ICs
Crashes
My r5 5600 would not boot 3800 1:1 no matter what, 3733 already was unstable.
RAM overclocking is very thankless hobby.

>>106818997
we already worked on my VDDP, terminations and drive strengths together last year. the ram only got unstable when it got hot in the summer

>>106817118
>monitors
>KTC H24T09P
Does anyone have the MPRT on this one? Im looking at TN monitors and i found one but im wondering why is this IPS being recommended when a TN model i found through a product testing website isnt while looking for a monitor for FPS

>>106819030
>we already worked on my VDDP, terminations and drive strengths together last year
well shit
>the ram only got unstable when it got hot in the summer
makes sense but i don't know why you would blame the memory controller then

>>106819046
I forgot that the price tags "are" much different. The one im looking at is 160 USD, but that one is admittedly 100 USD.
I dont mind spending that much more on it but not if there isnt much real benefit between that and the other monitor, which is an ASUS VG248QG

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is this a good SSD? it's replacing a decade old 1TB HDD in a board which supports pcie gen 5. but i have an sn850x in the pcie 5 slot. the sn850x is for games and this will be for cold storage, background DVR and my downloads folder. maybe the occasional game or two if i need the space.

>>106819082
I blamed the memory controller for not going over 3733 not the instability. I always knew it was caused by heat.

>>106819151
>I blamed the memory controller for not going over 3733 not the instability
ah ok, yeah i tried everything to go over 3733 as well, it just doesn't work on some unlucky CPUs
more voltage usually just makes things worse

>>106819126
i dont believe the 990pros have a DRAM cache, so if so, no.

>>106819229
>>106819126
the *990evoplus's do not have a dram cache, so no. The 990 pros do, and i am happy with mine currently.

So amazon prime day is not amaz-ing?

>>106819046
>im wondering why is this IPS being recommended when a TN
Because TN monitors only stand out in one specific aspect of an LCD monitor.
https://www.displayninja.com/ktc-h24t09p-review/

>>106819252
>do not have a dram cache,
why does this matter

>G80SD
>730€
Is the unhappy Anon around to tell me why shouldn't I buy this one?

>>106819126
>>106819252
You have to be a real motherfucker to care about DRAM cache on an SSD in a world where even a SATA bus can't be fully saturated by most video games' asset loading. Not saying it's completely useless, but it's pretty pointless and unnecessary for 99% of PC users including gamers.

>>106819267
Oh it performs basically the same "and" it has g-sync. Thank you
What is the specific aspect you mentioned, by the way?

>>106819334
Decent TN panels usually have better response times than similarly priced IPS monitors.

>>106819354
So I would have to pay out the nose if I wanted something noticeably better than the ktc display, right?

>>106818702
>>106818665
I have hynix m-die 2x48 kit.
It wasnt temperature sensitive at all, with Buildzoid timings it was running laps doing memtest86 and according to it the ram temp was in the mid 70s
With the fan at 55% the temp doesn't go over 50 and there's no extra audible noise

>>106817143
Can anybody explain those to me? thermal pads
You buy a sheet of the material and scissor a square the size of your cpu and just place it over it and secure it with the cooler?
Doesnt that sound like a simply better thermal paste? i mean, whats the downsides?

>>106819366
You'll have to do your research, the ASUS TN monitor you mentioned supports GSync.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/vg248qg#test_1596

>>106819383
completely different ram

>>106817364
White diagnostic LED usually means issues with the graphics card, either it's not detected by the mobo due to improper connection/no drivers/damaged PCIe slot or the card itself is fucked. What processor do you have? Look up the model and check if it has integrated graphics. If so, disconect the card and boot up the computer without it

>>106819449
Yes the KTC monitor also supports it, so the main difference is the price point right? Unless g-sync is different for different monitors

Has anyone used Thermalright TF9 thermal paste? Arctic MX-6 has been getting too expensive where i live and it looks good so far.

Anything wrong with buying an OEM cpu? I called customer service and they said they have the same warranty as if you bought it normally but not sure if I can trust a random call center person.
From what I've heard it's just the cpu but without the box, is that the only difference? Is it safe to get one or should I stick with a normal version?

>>106819768
nah you can trust jeets, they never lie bro

I got a new monitor and I'm really unsure what settings to use and what's better...

>>106819768
just see what the store page says genius

>>106819852
So did you buy it without doing any research?

How do I know if an SSD has DRAM?

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>>106819727
IPS monitors have better overall image quality.
Look at the sRGB color volume difference between the TN & IPS monitors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFPcLmIVIbY

>>106819862
Look up detailed technical reviews.

If no reviews exist, assume no DRAM.

>>106819875
>bigger % is better

>>106819892
There's no rule saying you need to use LCD monitors at 100 nit brightness and at 100% sRGB color volume when viewing SDR content.
Some gamers like to play FPS with more color saturation, and other display panels allow you to do that.

>>106819917
Sure, but using it in a chart like that without context is retarded.

It implies that a higher color volume coverage % is inherently better.

>>106819930
It's called having the potential to offer more color volume, thus better.
The guy who's monitor shopping did not specify he's content with 100% sRGB color color volume.

>>106819857
What does that have to do with me being confused about settings?

If my motherboard has heatsinks for m.2 slots can I or do I need to get a heat sink on the m.2 itself? Can it use both or would they interfere with each other?

>>106819942
Good monitor reviewers often walk you through the monitor settings and what you should likely use unless you have specific requirements that differ from an average user.

You also haven't even said WHAT settings you're confused about, or even what monitor you own so how the fuck do you expect anyone to offer assistance?

>>106819945
You don't need to get a heatsink if the motherboard provides you with one. If the M2 slot is laid out in the open, you better get the ssd with a heatsink in that case.

Between the WD_BLACK 1TB SN8100 or the Samsung 990 Pro which do you think would be a better choice for a boot drive? I've seen more recommendations for the samsung but also warning saying it has bad firmware.

>>106820016
Cheaper is better.

>>106820016
WD on linux.
The cheaper in any other case.

In reality a gen 4 sn850x is good enough, half the price and you'll barely notice any difference

>>106819960
I have the Samung G50D, tried looking at rtings but can't really find any settings there.
I was more confused about if the colors are actually "too colorful" or if it's more standard. As the only thing I can really compare with is my really old screen.

>>106819126
Yep, it's fine. You'll use system memory instead of dram(it has none). Anyone saying you need dram on drive is just regurgitating something they read/heard without understand why. I even use one as my main drive.

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>>106820083
Set color space to "auto" unless you're doing HDR content.

They also say the monitor has its best pixel response times with overdrive set to "Faster"

But if you use adaptive sync (freesync/G-sync) it disables overdrive and your pixel latency will increase.

It also can only do 144Hz over HDMI, with Displayport you can do 180hz at 8-bit color depth, or 120hz with 10-bit color depth.

what's the best 1080p card rn?

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REMINDER : If you are considering an AMD 9000 series GPU because you have been influenced by Reddit, Twitter or a wealthy tech YouTuber, it’s worth understanding AMD’s track record. While their GPUs are often great at beating cherry-picked benchmarks, they normally fall short in real-world gaming performance. Every year, an army of influencers target first-time buyers declaring AMD a godsend for PC gamers. Every year a small percentage of users get duped. Since almost all PC gamers use Steam, the February 2025 Steam statistics are relevant: AMD’s combined market share for discrete 5000/6000/7000 series GPUs is 3%. Meanwhile, Nvidia’s 4060 alone has 9% market share. This reality starkly contrasts with influencer hype. The reason is simple: influencers rarely play games and gamers rarely buy AMD GPUs. Experienced gamers know all too well that high average fps are worthless when they are accompanied with stutters, random crashes, black screens, excessive noise and a limited feature set. It’s notable that AMD’s GPUs have not historically had these problems in consoles because, unlike PCs, consoles operate in a closed environment which is less dependent on robust drivers. Using influencers for hardware performance data is less effective than using foxes to babysit chickens. [Mar '25 GPUPro]

>>106820083
Most new monitors should have an emulated sRGB preset. Some are usable, others are trash.
You can also copy RTING's settings, but your monitor's pre-calibrated state could be quite different from their purchased model.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/odyssey-g5-g50d-s27dg50#test_1467

Any benefit to keeping all my m.2's from the same brand or is mixing brands fine?

>>106820163
The thread is going fine without you

>>106820138
5070, past that you hard core hit diminishing returns at 1080p even with an x3d
At 1440p you get pretty good scaling even up to a 5090 + midrange processor.

>>106820175
>>106820137
Just feels a bit odd, because if I don't have the "warm1" color profile the colors feel really bad for me. Just feels odd that what I think appears to be normal isn't the "normal" setting

>>106820192
5070 is really a 960p card (1440p DLSS Quality)

The 4K: Gigabyte M27UP is the same price as the ASUS XG27ACS for me. Been eyeing the Asus for a while and if the shills were right it's a superior panel. But would I cuck myself not going 4k at this point? Only have the 5070 and don't mind dlss.

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>>106820190
This thread is boring and needs enrichment

>>106820252
You're getting to niconigger levels of annoying.

>>106820247
Wait for the XG27ACS to be discounted near $220 if you're in the US.
You will probably own the monitor longer than you'll keep the 5070 if this helps.

>>106820203
You could just be used to your old shitty monitor

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>>106820268
Come on now that's a stretch, I probably post literally 20x times less than she does.

>>106820016
Avoid Samsung like a plague desu. Been their fanboys for years but recently they use the bait and switch tactics on their nvme drive the later batch always been a lottery whether or not you get abysmal random performance.

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>>106817118
when you choose AMD for a GPU

>>106820335
AMD chose me

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>Me when i boughted gay-deon

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First time i have seen a prebuilt at a decent price in my lfie
Friend in Austria sent me a link to a 5080 prebuilt by an austrian tech retailer for 2600€
I ran every component on amazon and it came out to 2420
Including the montage, the testing and a windows it seemed like a decent price.
Now they are not the components i would have chosen, on some of the options and the case is ugly as sin but it doesnt feel like a scam.
Thats all, i wonder if there are actually more retailers out there not charging a 500€ markup on their prebuilts

>>106820370
in b4
>the scam is that they are selling 5080 anon!

should i buy a handheld so i can local stream from my pc?

What RTX 5080 should I get ?
MSI, Gigabyte or Asus, any suggestions ?

>>106820460
Zotac.

>>106820460
msi, dragon logo

>>106820459
You can do this from your phone, you can do this from a tablet. Why would you choose to buy a gayming device to stream off another device?

>>106820536
a phone is a phone
a tablet is a tablet
a handheld is a handheld

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none of my rgb works on linux
I'm will try a rgb hub controller and report back to /pcbg/

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>>106811132
>LG G5 is bad for PC gaming because of the dithering up close. Get a Samsung or alternative brand OLED with QD-OLED for close PC gaming.
the only alternative is a S95F but it has OCB + matte
S90D/Fs are 65" only and even less bright
it's over

>>106811890
>>LG G5 is bad for PC gaming because of the dithering up close
>Solved by not sitting 10 inches away from the screen.
maybe, not sure yet

>>106820558
I think you should buy the most expensive gayming handheld to get this task done.

>>106820298
Yeah that's why I think 4k makes more sense but then I'd get to enjoy the 5070 a little longer at 1440p. I literally never seen 4k 27" in person tho so I don't know if the jump in fidelity (with dlss) is worth the performance hit.

>>106820473
>>106820479
Oke, never had a zotac , but I did have a RTX 2080 ti gaming x trio , It was really quiet and nice.
Im going to look if I find something.

>>106820558
Be more mentally flexible.
>>106820564
You should consider rotating your aio fan to have the tubes at the top. The lower/est point should be the pump.

>>106820536
Can't you even do this with your tv built-in apps or a firestick?

do whine free 4090/5090 cards exist?

>>106820638
Undervolt.

>>106820247
gs27u should be cheaper and the same panel on gigabyte
>But would I cuck myself not going 4k at this point?
for 2d and text rendering and content? yeah
for gaming? barely screen size is kinda small but maybe

>>106820568
>I literally never seen 4k 27" in person tho so I don't know if the jump in fidelity (with dlss) is worth the performance hit.
for gaming in that size it's probably overrated
but for everything else....

>>106820638
No guarantee, learn how to UV and change the power limit.
Capping frame rates is also a good practice.

>>106820667
Sorry I was retarded it was the GS27u I was talking about... Does it make any difference for my question now?

>>106820203
warm1 or standard on samsung are the only normal looking color modes

>>106820083
>I was more confused about if the colors are actually "too colorful" or if it's more standard.
look at color test patterns and black white contrast gamma settings and configure so it does not crush color ranges and black and white detail
sRGB Cucks fear the Native color range Chad

>>106820709
1440p ips mid refresh monitors should be like half the price of the gs27u atleast here on sale or something
1080 mid refresh also half of 1440p
you are literally halving the cost every time
if they are close in price the 4k obviously? else you are comparing a thing costing half as much
but I'd rather have 2 1440p's than one 4k... maybe

>>106820728
It's been 6 months ago I saw heavily discount on the Asus XG27ACS here. Maybe it's time soon. The gs27u is on sale atm. I don't know much about monitor but the gigabyte looks pretty cheaply built for me and most reviews aren't that impressed with the panel quality either.

>>106820360
look, it's prime day, do you see them deeply discounted?

Find a 9070xt for $400.

go on, let's see the deal. if they sucked they'd be on sale.

>>106820880
That's a bot post.

>>106820360
nvimbeciles cope

What are your black friday hopes this year?

>>106820779
they seem pretty similar all the reviews of the gigabyte have been positive
that spanish guy on yt and the britcuck

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My Nvidia Driver In 2025

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>>106820880
Speaking of Prime Day Deals the best ones I've seen for those intereted today are:
1. 7800X3D for $338
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-7800X3D-16-Thread-Processor/dp/B0BTZB7F88
^PCPP says it hasn't been this cheap since June 2024 when AMD started reducing production to make the price rise in advance of the 9800X3D's release to make it seem more exciting.

2. MSI 32' 4K@165Hz QD-OLED for $600 (price matched at Newegg too):
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4HkH99/msi-mag-321up-qd-oled-315-3840-x-2160-165-hz-monitor-mag-321up-qd-oled
^Never been this cheap usually sits around $800, the pixel density nor refresh rate isn't as good as the 27" 4K models but it's still better than the 1440p SKUs IMO.

There's some other deals with 10-30$ off some GPUs and ~$50 off a 4TB NVME & $50 off a 24TB HDD here:
https://www.pcgamer.com/best-amazon-prime-day-pc-gaming-deals/
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/live/best-amazon-prime-day-deals-live-the-best-tech-and-pc-hardware-deals-on-gpus-cpus-ssds-and-more

>>106821033
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7LzXsY/aoc-agon-pro-ag276qzd2-267-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-ag276qzd2?history_days=730
^This 1440p QD-OLED hit $400 last BF and has oscillated around $450 ever since with a few more models with the same panel. I hope to see at least SKU hit the $3XXs range this year.

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>>106821118
>msi
24 hour pixel refresh meme update post update

>>106821147
>aoc
16 hour pixel refresh meme

>buying oled at all
hahahahaha

>>106821164
>cuck-led

>>106817118
It's a nice clean setup but I'm getting stressed out just looking at the photo. Red can be too much sometimes.

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Return to tradition...

>>106821268
TN is the devil's creation

im never going back to lcd after experiencing oled

>>106821268
>TN and VA viewing angles
i laff

>>106821268
I hate the antichrist (TN)

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Pic related should be the benchmark for displays, and only va and oled can properly enjoy this tasty morsel of classic cinema

>>106821286
OLED shill-kun do you have QD-OLED or WOLED right now?
Scamsung G8 32" 4K OLEDs are suspiciously cheap where I live.
What is the catch other than magenta glow?

>>106821268
>tn colors : so bad only cs2 pros who put max vibrance suffer it
>ips contrast: cancer
>va viewing angles : cancer

>ips pixel response time : 10ms
>va: 30ms for blacks and 10ms for rest

>meanwhile oled
>pixel response time 0.5ms
>viewing angles: basically perfect
>contrast: infinite
>colors : amazing
>panel dimming : lame

>>106821318
Some guy made a blogpost about the G80SD QD-OLED, and he ended up selling it.
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/FAFO%20g80sd/

>>106821336
You forgot:
>burn in: <1 year

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>>106821318
>magenta glow

not real. Heres my G80SD test
my biggest issue is simply burn in mitigation annoyances + panel dimming itself in some scenarios specially if you use game hdr max brightness

>>106821336
>brightness: dogshit
>price: a bajillion shekels
I'll be enjoying my 200 euro 27 inch 1440p 180 Hz IPS over here while you spend a thousand for a similarly sized and specced OLED.

Thoughts on this monitor 274QRFW
I can get it for 190€ and it has white casing to match with my future white build

>>106821364
How is the coating? Does it scratch easily like the glossy one?

>>106821395
Spec-wise, it's a standard entry-level 1440p 165~180Hz gaming monitor.
Search for specific customer horror stories.

>>106821578
matte coating sucks compared to glossy but this monitor was cheap so, they say the coating helps with the raised blacks + text fringing so maybe its worth it idk.
I try not to test how easily it scratches

Where is pxiel refresh on my TN panel?

>>106821591
>Search for specific customer horror stories.
ill-advised. Every product has horror stories.

>>106821345
The top row of my S22 (the cheapest one) had burn-in before year 3 (the payment plan). lol lmao

>>106821646
Some stand out, like the LG 4K IPS monitor.
Even RTINGS' store-bought sample was defective after a few months.

>>106821627
If it doesn't scratch from simply looking at it then it's good enough.
I would prefer glass but beggars can't be choosers.

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7 months for it to reach actual MSRP

>>106821364
>my biggest issue is simply burn in mitigation annoyances
There are none one the g8 except pixel shift though
Maybe static panel dimming when screen is idle

>>106821578
Matte is already "pre stretched" due to all the microscopic holes
It's nothing like shiny gloss plastic

>>106821338
That's a me

>>106821318
Downside is black screening on the dp port if Nvidia GPU
No pixel shift off function unless service menu tweaks
No game bar pop up off unless service menu
No turning off Bluetooth to not receive random connections attempts from your neighbor unless service menu (and turning off your remote function due to it) and 5 full screen notifications until you can block that device

The matte is neutral considering it has benefits but on the newer model it's even heavier

If it was even cheaper I could justify keeping it, if I had a desktop maybe I would, just use HDMI
But it was already 50% of what a pg32 costs

Considering it has no forced 16hour pixel refresh it's literally one of the better ones by default

Also has an s tier stand
Anything more I forgot idk

But yeah allt these are the same, more brightness is probably good and a remote is good so maybe it's time for the tv pill
Big screens aren't even big

>>106821627
How can matte help raised blacks? It literally raises blacks more in lighting conditions with diffused light due to matte
But yeah nvm

>>106821679
You can peel the matte coating if you soften the peel with the meme wet paper towel method and u will have qd-oled glass without any antireflective treatment under it though

>>106821778
the qd oled elevated blacks is ambient lighting hitting the quantum dots and making them emit light
supposedly matte coating reduces that effect

>>106821336
The new TN have real wide color gamuts
But it's a 1080p tn for 1500€

>>106821381
>>brightness: dogshit
Just buy a OLED tv, g5 competes and beats miniled in scenes, 2000-2500 nits peaks
400-500 nits full screen sustained and peaks and sdr
A G5 55 on sale costs the same as a pg32ucdm did on release, and will cost even less In a year
Tvs won

>>106821728
newkeks?

>>106821778
>stretched
Scratched*

>>106821793
It might look less magenta, maybe
It can't have less raised blacks to glossy it literally raises blacks more
Source: I saw both glossy msi/Asus and Samsung models in store and I owned the g80

>>106821728
i see microcenter

>>106821827
How the fuck do you use a 55 inch screen as a PC monitor? Seems highly impractical. Do you sit nearby and break your neck? Do you sit far away and delegate it to gaming duty ONLY, because text is unreadable?
When I got my 27 inch monitor my family assumed I was going to game sitting on my bed that's 2+ meters away from my desk, not AT my desk, that's ridiculous, the kitchen TV is 24 inches, that type of shit.

/hpg/ seems to be long gone so i figured this is the next best place to ask. i've had the cooler master mh751 hedset and i've been happy with it both comfortability and audio wise, but it gave up on me. please recommend something similar (mostly neutral sound signature, as comfortable, wired and cone with a mic) but ideally with a better build quality and replaceable earpads. my range is 200€ tops but ideally something under 150€. cheers

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>>106817143
just use ptm on everything all the time and youll never have to reapply anything.
>>106817183
absolutely

>>106821883
People use 83" oleds for pc monitors too
I don't even think 42-55" is that large
Seems perfectly doable on desk now that 32" doesn't seem that large and I used way close
Add even more size to desk and np
Whatever distance is good for you
I feel you might not need more than slightly longer than an arm for 55"
Maybe I am wrong
Wall mount or stand mount for more distance
But idk even 42" feels small
27" monitors are crazy small 24" tier
Btw I'm saying this as my main is a 15,6" laptop

>>106821942
32" fits on a desk but larger than that seems pointless
you would at minimum require a curve

Fuck it bros Im getting the 4k IPS monitor.

>>106820316
The 9070XT uses 360 watts? WTF

>>106821942
I'd get a 32 inch for a desktop monitor, if I had a deeper and wider desk, as this one is tiny and barely fits 27 + mid tower, as it was bought 15 years ago for a 17 or 19 inch 768p monitor.
Anything above 32 inch, like 42 inch, feels like it's meant to be on the other side (short side) of the room and you be sat on a couch holding a controller.

niggas talking about viewing angles like they're not looking at the screen dead on :skull:

>>106822014
I have a 42" 4k 60hz monitor that's dead on to my seated position with a 27" 1440p 240hz monitor for gaming off on the side. Obviously, when i'm gaming, I turn more to face it directly, but it still means at any given time one of my screens wont be looked at from dead on, so both of my monitors are IPS panels with decent/good viewing angles.

>>106821942
>I don't even think 42-55" is that large
I don't even know how to respond to this its so idiotic

>>106822014
I don't like to sit perfectly still when gaming or watching content so any gamma or chroma shift especially on the sides/corners is annoying.

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>playin Silent Hill F
>5070 stays at 50C at 50% usage, fans relatively quiet
>1440p max graphics, capped at 60 FPS
MAXIMUM COMFY GAYMIN
now if only the shader compilation stutters weren't there...

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>>106821963
RDNA4 is inefficient. Imagine needing 5080 power draw for 5060ti performance in path tracing, we Nvidia Gods thankfully don't have to.
>>106822091
The game locks you out of real high and ultra settings without a cfg tweak, that's the only reason why it runs comparatively so well

>>106822082
NTA, but I personally find 42" 4k just fine at regular desktop distance. It's just like having a 21" 1080p monitor, but instead of 1 of them, you have 4 of them in a 2x2 grid with no bezels.

>>106821956
I did not even have a normal deep sized desk so feel like u totally could do more easily
It's not pointless since u can get a way brighter and colorful screen but we will see

>>106821996
Idk use it and look at sizes irl
40" is starting to look real small
I grow more confident in the tv pill day by day

>>106822082
42" feels pretty small irl
55" is where it starts to get decently big like yeah this is pretty big for a monitor

>>106822108
>locks you out of real high and ultra settings
Damn just as I thought they figured UE5 out there's always a catch. Is there a tweak to fix the "ghosting"/artifacting around moving objects? It's, ironically, least visible with DLSS.
FXAA has banding artifacts on the aliased edges and surfaces, TAA has a lot of ghosting, TSR is atrocious and unusable, FSR is fine, DLSS is slightly better than the rest, but doesn't completely fix it.

>>106822117
42" 4k also gives you better ppi
i have to use 125% scaling at 32"

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>>106822108
>5060ti performance in path tracing
in what?

I don't spend $70 on games, I wait for them on sale. By the time they are $15 (more my speed) the cards to run them will be cheap :^)

I bought 5 games for $70.

>>106822149
Yeah, I don't do any GUI scaling at all

>>106822117
>>106822124
How far away are you sitting for the 42" monstrosity at a desk? And if youre doing any gaming, particularly in an FPS, you cant see 2/3 the fucking screen in your peripheral vision unless youre at least 3+ feet from the monitor. It makes no damn sense at all for the majority of people's use cases. Also tiling windows is terrible as opposed to separate screens

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>>106822222
lol, you clearly have no experience with it and it shows.

I sit ~26-30" from my 1440p 27" gaming monitor, and ~33-38" from my 4k 42" media monitor.

It's easy to fit the entire screen within my FOV, it's fantastic for slower paced games like Civilization or Stardew valley.

>>106822253
>lol, you clearly have no experience with it and it shows.
Because its preposterous. Also you just admitted youre 3+ feet away from the 42" which is exactly what I said

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>>106822267
>youre 3+ feet away
you can't count now?

33-38" is between 2.9 and 3.1 feet

And also I like how that's magically some ABSURD idea to sit THREE FEET from a 42" 4k panel like THAT'S the deal breaker for you.

Lol

Lmao even

>>106822284
>And also I like how that's magically some ABSURD idea to sit THREE FEET from a 42" 4k panel like THAT'S the deal breaker for you.
Yes.

>have PC
>using mouse and keyboard
>3 feet from display
Its retarded and stupid and does not work well logistically.

I can see the controller and switch so I realize you ignored 2/3 of my post talking about FPS games. You happen to have a TV hooked up to your PC for all intents and purposes given you said its your 'media display'

>33-38" is between 2.9 and 3.1 feet
No shit, its called rounding you idiot. Once I saw your setup I basically disregarded any opinion you had on the matter so its fine. I can understand why you shill for it now.

>>106819322
it saves your drive from alot of unneccessary read+writes that dont need to happen, and preserves its lifespan.

The only time i use one without a dram cache, was a 4tb ssd, and it burnt out within 6 months of use, from torrenting and the like.

So i need to replace my RX 6600 because lack of VRAM.
Any news about 24-32GB cards? a refresh or something or should i just buy a RX 9070 because its as good as its going to get for a while?

>>106822322
I've been using this setup daily for 8-12+ hours since 2017.

You're wrong, and it's okay to be wrong

You're talking out of your ass and ASSUMING shit about a setup you've never experienced in person and simply THINK it has these downsides that in reality, don't exist.

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>>106822385
You assume I don't know what I am talking about for my preferences.

You should feel bad for being wrong and having an idiotic setup in your neet cave.

>>106822384
if you want to buy a 'future proof' gpu, the dumbest time to do that is long after all 3 gpu manufacturers released their latest range, and are currently finalising manufacturing of their next generation of cards.

Njudea are coming out with their super-refresh soon, you can wait for that, or just sit and wait and see what AMD/intel releases next year. I'd be surprised if either company releases a newer card this year. Maybe a 9080xt variant if they're desperate. And they're not, they're too busy with the AI market.

when im upgrading my pc next year, what should i do with my old one? i dont know if it would sell so what to do with it?

>>106822400
>Njudea are coming out with their super-refresh soon
>soon
Likely Q2 next year at the earliest with actual availability lagging behind that given recent trends
>see what AMD/intel releases next year
Their timeline is 2027 at this point realistically

>>106822428
keep it as a backup
give it to a friend
use it as a server
whatever man

>>106822384
House wins whether you buy a 9070 XT right now or one of the RTX 50 Super cards later next year.
It's a matter of how badly you want that new card.

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>>106822484
The B60 is silently launching this week. When it comes to ai, it should be superior to everything amd has.

>24gb
>b580 performance.

>>106822384
>RX 6600 because lack of VRAM.
lol no it's not
the GPU is FAR too weak for today that's why it needs replacing don't lie and say it's about "VRAM"

>>106822554
Tell that Koikatsu after loading a heavy scene.
You check the usage on GPU-Z and it will always be around 10-20% but VRAM will always be maxed out and its a pain.

>>106822554
B60, the rest doesn't matter. The B60 will gap prices so so so bad.

coming from a 3070 is a 5070 ti really worth it over a 5070? i felt like 3070 could do almost everything i wanted for a good while.. its 300$ less for a 5070 compared to a 5070 ti where i live, i do alot of gamedev and gaming i suppose.

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How scared should I be when installing am5 cpu? Did any anon here bent a pin?

>>106822630
the biggest failurepoint is failing to update bios

>>106822640
You mean electricty cutouts?

>>106822647
No I mean failing to update bios.

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ooh i like this

>>106822623
For 4k yes. 1440p it's a tossup. 1080p no.
The uplift until you get to the 5080 (terrible gpu at $1000 or local equivalent) or 5090 (retard pricing) is going to be kind of on the lower side if you don't care about rt+ featureset.

>>106822623
>is a 5070 ti really worth it over a 5070
Yes absolutely especially with those tasks the GPU is much more powerful

>>106822630
>Frog
Yea, you will fuck it up.

>>106822630
It's not the cpu lmao it's the power plug. Don't f up the power plug.

>>106822630
Removing the CPU is alot more nerve wrecking desu. The latch on the heatspreader is made for tiny asian female fingers and just when you thought you could hold onto it it slips. I almost dropped it on the socket thankfully my other hand could catch it on time.

>>106821939
Where did you get your PTM7950? Pretty sure the stuff I bought was fake since the seller ghosted the shit out of me when I called them out. It works fairly well, but I was expecting a bit more performance.

https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-x870-motherboard-kills-second-ryzen-7-9800x3d-user-says-he-regrets-trusting-the-brand

Assrock boards are like an electric chair for cpus. Will they ever be able to fix them?

>>106822155
You’re a fucking retard

>>106822752
>tiny asian female fingers

>female

heheheheheh

>>106822640
nope.

It's installing the power cable to the mobo badly

>>106818468
Not him but because at some point I had 200w gpu which was considered high end back then but now I have 350w gpu and it's not even that good and my 650w psu which i thought would be great forever is struggling. Good psu will last you 10+ years so there's no reason to grab one that's 100-200w higher than suggested just to be sure for future builds.

>>106822654
>meme fansize
Into the garbage it goes

>>106822630
It's actually sort of trickey because the cpus are slippery and dont give you a good grip.

>>106822752
>I almost dropped it on the socket thankfully my other hand could catch it on time.
You are doing this with the case flat on a table I hope? I do not see how anyone has an issue with the sockets. It blows my mind the lack of any motor skills from so many people

>>106817118
Is water-cooling a meme?

>>106822999
no and tower-cooler shills ARE FILTHY FUCKING BLACK JUST TYING TO DRAGE PEOPLE DOWN IONTO THEIR SATANIC FAGGOTRY!!!!!!!

>>106822999
aios are fine
custom is meme

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Do any of you anons have any recommendations for a software that might control a case's inbuilt screen? Bought pic related but the screen doesn't show up as an external display. The manufacturer website does have a piece of software to control it but it's quite bare and I don't particularly believe this shit ain't going to sell my data to the chinese. Does have an English setting option though which is nice

>>106823051
>he bought a case with a meme LCD
lmao
lol
lmao

>>106823051
l o l
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I can't tell if this is a good deal or a disaster waiting to happen. I saw MSI was selling combo deals with their motherboards and you can get an OEM cpu with them for a big discount. But I can't seem to find a straight answer on if or how much the CPU is covered by warranty. Google tells me it's not at all by amd and it says msi may or may not. One places on their website seems to indicate it does but I found a line saying OEM parts aren't. Is it just a complete gamble and if anything goes wrong with it I'm fucked?

Why are case fans so expensive.
Maybe I should just get the memeRGB version of C8 to get the 160mm fans with it, it's only like $20 more.

>>106823051
There is, I can't remember what it's called but I know there's a 3rd party software that can control your fans. If you check the previous few threads I think it got mentioned or just try googling a bit it should come up. I think it might have been fancontrol but I"m not sure.

>>106822946
Yup. You mean one could remove the cpu while the case is standing vertically? That's psychopathic. It wasnt actually that dramatic since my other hand is right next to the hand removing the CPU but my heart did skip a beat.

>>106823091
tray cpus have their warranty honored by the seller. It SHOULD be the same warranty provided by AMD, they just handle the return on their end instead of you doing the exchange.

>>106823101
if you want affordable fans you stick to 120/140mm

>>106823134
Seems like they only honor it for one year. Not sure it's worth the discount vs getting it normally.

>>106823101
Case fans aren't expensive overall, you are simply looking at expensive fans.
160mm is simply not a common size.

>>106823190
>one year
That's odd, if you find that as their exact coverage period then avoid. Centralcomputers has a three year warranty with their tray cpus.

>>106823101
This is why you avoid cases that run meme fan sizes. If it doesn't support 120mm/140mm, no buy.

>>106823091
>>106823190
It's less than a $70 discount to market prices if you're in the US ($666.98).
I can see arguments for either option. Depends on your risk tolerance.

I tried to buy a discounted motherboard from MSI's official store last year, and I wasn't too impressed with their operation (order processing to shipping time).
At least the order cancellation worked.

oh. My latest build is in the OP. Heh.

Specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4M3mwY

Really wanted the 9800x3d but it didn't go on sale while the 7800x3d did. Should I bite the bullet and pay more? If I do get the 7800 what's my upgrade options in the future? Should I just wait and see if the 98 will go on sale in november?

>>106823091
>b
don't do it.

>>106823379
I'm not sure. I have heard people say a 5080 will experience some bottlenecking on the cpu in some weird games like that horrible slopware star wars game. So yeah maybe.

otoh I buy old gaymes:
>>106822155

>>106822654
THICC fans, those will chop fingers nicely.

>>106823379
if its really i cheap i would grab the 7xxx and probably wait/save for the 10xxx ryzen
if you want to buy now and forget about buying for a while get a 9xxx
everything boils down to
>do i buy now or hope for a future that will never come?

I wouldn't expect it to go on sale, since it sells so well at full MSRP. Upgrade path for the 7800x3d is good since AM5 will be here for a few more years at least. AMD is still releasing AM4 CPUs.

Just be aware- the 7800x3d will run hotter than the 9800x3d.

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Are any of these brands good choices for RAM?

>>106823429
yes.

should i just wait for Zen 6?
will it fix everything?

>>106823451
>should i just wait
Never wait. live. But uh also don't go into debt lol

>>106823115
>Yup. You mean one could remove the cpu while the case is standing vertically? That's psychopathic.
More than one case of the mobo eating a AM5 CPU was because people didnt get it seated in the socket correctly and j-j-j-jammed the lid closed on it

is the 9800x3d the best am5 cpu for the money?

>>106823511
It was the power cable.

>>106822654
>if you buy the model with fans you can't install standard size fans because adapter bracket not included
>if you the fanless version you miss the point without getting the meme size
>they aren't even shipping to EU so getting meme fans or replace them is gonna be annoying
Will check it out after they open the EU store as they plastered on their website they are working on it on literally every product page

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Hoping for some advice before I pull the trigger. I asked last night and made a lot of changes based on feedback. The two gpu's are there because I wanted the asus prime but it sold out. I picked the pny as a replacement but if it comes back on sale in 2 months I can swap it out from best buy. Other than that how does it look? Do I need a 1000w psu? Could I drop to an 850 and save some money? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/redpanda42/saved/pP4n8d

>>106823541
Post a public PCPP List link.
Yes 850W is plenty. The 9800X3D is overpriced especially with the 7800X3D on Prime Day Sale.
You don't need an AIO to cool an X3D chip if you want to save some more money there.
Do you have applications that will use 64GB of RAM?
Overpaying for the NVMEs

>>106823541
>>106823557
like he says tho hurry and lock in that 7800x3d on a-zon prime.

>>106823557
oops my bad https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wyFyYd
I do use a lot of ram sometimes like with lots of browser windows or games that use emulators. I could probably get by with 32gb but the price on 64 was really low so figured might as well future proof.
>Overpaying for the NVMEs
Do you have a recommendation for a better choice? The prices seemed really good for the amount of space. I couldn't find anything better that came from a good brand. I don't mind spending a bit more but it didn't seem that worth it.

>>106823541
This part list is private.

>>106823515
for gayming yes, non-gayming i would say 9700x
https://www.newegg.com/d/Best-Sellers/Desktop-CPU-Processor/s/ID-343
i like using eggnew as a reference for stuff like this

>>106823566
I have best buy membership so I was hoping to get the 9800 and have it drop in price during black friday and they would price match it. But it is a gamble that 7800 sale is insane. But I really wanted one nice piece since I can't afford a 5090. I dunno I'm still thinking about it.
Also would like some advice, I'm looking at reviews and the pny doesn't seem to be a bad card. Do I even need to try to get an asus prime instead or should I just stick with what I got?

>>106823515
9800x3d has an inflated price due to the gaymer tax.
the 9950x is probably the best value. 8 core cpus in 2025 is laughable.

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Looking to replace 3-pin fan on a heatsink
How can I tell if it's 5V or 12V?
This is a crusty old Alienware and Dell's service manuals are worthless

>>106823636
It should have all the info on the other side, remove it from the heatsink and read it.

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>>106823655
>>>106823541
>>>106823573
>>I do use a lot of ram sometimes like with lots of browser windows or games that use emulators. I could probably get by with 32gb but the price on 64 was really low so figured might as well future proof.
>Fair enough
>>Overpaying for the NVMEs
>>Do you have a recommendation for a better choice? The prices seemed really good for the amount of space. I couldn't find anything better that came from a good brand. I don't mind spending a bit more but it didn't seem that worth it.
>The 4TB is actually a good buy on closer inspection, but swap that 1TB NVME for the UD90 has double the capacity for the same price.
>
>My recommended list edits: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dcG6Jn
>^$455 saved approximately
>
>Check the mobo's specs to confirm it meets all of your feature-set needs.
>The 9070 XT is only 5% slower than the 5070 Ti but much cheaper so is the better value IMO, see:
>https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-5070-solid/31.html

Deleted other reply has it had slower RAM by mistake.