>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. 1.4V or 1.45V CPU VR voltage limit recommended.

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

Anyone can reccomend a mouse to use? Wireless or not, Ill pay whatever price

>>106824222
Razer DeathAdder V3 wired gaming mouse is discounted to $40 atm.
Nothing fancy, but it gets the job done.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pf88TW/razer-deathadder-v3-wired-optical-mouse-rz01-04640100-r3u1

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/razer-deathadder-v3/
https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/razer/deathadder-v3

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AMD transvestite subhumans will tell you that this is a win for AMD

>>106824240
>Razer
got off this stuff like a year ago felt like their peripherals kept falling apart

that being said, wife has this mouse it's an all around solid mouse if you have no extra use cases you need

>>106824222
I mean, depends on what you need/want/use
pure gaming then the op1 is pretty good from what I remember
the g502x is solid, both wired and wireless
the basilisk v3 is a slightly better g502x
deathadder v3 is also solid, both those have wireless option
there was some chink wireless mouse that was being shilled at /v/ some months back, I think it was the vxe r1 pro
other anons can chime in
I personally use the basilisk v3 wired because I dont like wireless anything and im more used to heavy mice than lighter ones. The only fancy feature i needed were the side buttons to navigate web pages
if you get really autistic, even the shape of the mouse can play into your purchase choice

>>106824324
>the benchmark scenes use between 1 and 5 GB of VRAM
lmao ahahahahah

hohohohoohohohoh


heheheheehehehehehehehe

>>106823974
Why people are giving advice on buying OLED monitors here?

People are usually buying PC for 5-7 years, OLED won't last that long.

Most builds live even longer (with gcard only replacement)

>>106824443
oled monitors are better than alternatives

>>106824442
guess what AMD still loses even when you exceed the vram limit because AMD is that gimped for blender
anyone buying AMD for blender is retarded and has been mislead by transvestites

>>106824558
It doesn't, kiddo.

now stop being gay or we'll put you in PRISON. #project2025

Does anyone in the thread actually have the KTC M27P6? It checks most of the feature boxes I am looking for and the price is pretty damn good right now sitting just over $400 on sale.

>>106824540

>go to check out
>4tb ssd that was there a minute ago is now gone
>alternatives are a hundred dollars more
fml

What's a good front fan for the deepcool ch260?

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>>106824443

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>>106824700

>>106824700
Two anons have purchased it and they like it. One ended up returning it.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106784988/#106789797
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106784988/#106790720
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106784988/#106790793

>>106824897
Damn thats bright but the bloom is real still
>>106824909
Thanks

I'd take the OLED pill but I am worried about brightness (and burn in but less so) being a problem and there are no 27" 4k panels for OLED on the horizon with better brightness, most of them tend to be 32" or 1440p

>amazon october prime day has been kind of shit
please tell me they won't just copy-paste the sale discounts for everything for black friday

>>106824962
we will and then we'll shove you into your locker.

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What am I in for bros?

>>106825102
Fantastic MT performance, good enough gaming performance, and a dead socket.

>>106825112
>dead socket
An inaccurate meme. It is extremely rare for a consumer to buy into a socket with plans to replace the CPU within a handful of years. Most use it till a new socket is released, at which point it simply doesn't matter.

>>106825349
It's a pc tradition.

i hope your doctor misdiagnoses your aids as lupus

another AMD nametranny/avatarfag, joyous

>>106825443
No, it's the same one. He just took up a name.

>>106824222
Avoid Razer Avoid Logitech Avoid ASUS/Gigabyte/MSI/etc.

Buy LAMZU INCA/MAYA, Sychrox V8, Ninjustu Sora v2, ZOWIE Za13, a Pulsar

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>>106824894
Aaaaaaand?
Everyone here is a poorfag.

>>106824438
>g502x
is with electric scroll wheel?

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nVidia Tesla M2050, is it possible to game on these cards, provided I'm playing older (2010s era) games?

>>106825686
it has no display output

>>106825706
So? I just route it back through the CPU's integrated graphics.

>>106825518
>buy ching chong cheng aliexpress chen chon
How about american mouses?

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>>106824222
Logitech Superlight 2. It's the best mouse I've used so far for 3 years.

Also, anyone here with a ryzen 5600x and RTX 5070 Ti?
I need to know how it runs games in 1440p and 4K on a dual monitor setup.

>>106824222
Whatever you do, do NOT buy Razer or Logitech. Overpriced garbage. Get a Lamzu Maya X over the Superlight 2 or the Pulsar Xlite Crazylight over the Deathadder.

>>106824222
any budget office mouse that are <15usd, gaming or "premium" mouse failed me one way or the other with double clicking, mouse scroll encoder issue and disintegrating rubber

>>106823974
is that another row of fans or a stupid mirror

>>106825758
does it save settings in internal memory or are you tied to their slopware?

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Is this still a good choice for monitors around $230? Was already thinking of buying it then also saw it linked in the monitor hunter google doc. Was also thinking about the viewsonic but saw this review, saying the 240hz wasn't real or something.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/12qfwhx/almost_a_year_about_viewsonic_xg2431_honest_review/
Don't know anything about monitors.
Budget is sub $300 for something at least 240hz.

>>106825859
anything over 120 hz is completely useless unless your mouse is overclocked already
https://cpstest.org/polling-rate-test/

>>106823974
I don't know much about cases, fans, motherboards, and PSUs, but I can stick things in their slots. I just started picking components and I am already stuck on monitor/cpu/gpu selection
>USA, $1500
>Use case: linux / making presentations and documents, programming, one or two lightweight VMs, platformer games, rdr2
>History: only used chromebooks, laptops, mac
>is 1440p worth it
I don't need an ultra-wide monitor. In fact, I want an ultra-long monitor for better reading/writing. Is 1440p worth it or should I invest in OLED 1080p?
>would an X3D cpu serve my gaming needs?
I don't feel like I need a GPU right now (I don't care about AI slop) and would rather invest in future proofing with a good motherboard/cpu/monitor and buy a GPU later if need be.

>>106825903
a $500 minipc will blow your mind with performance let alone an actual computer

>>106825720
>american mouses
Gee I wonder where those mices are produced.

>>106825799
Lamzu has a web-driver, so no software download required. Pulsar does have software but you can set up and then uninstall it.

>turn on hdr
>everything just gets brighter and more washed out
umm... am i doing something wrong?

>>106825913
I've read on /g/ that they are overpriced garbage that they usually throttle and make too much noise and that most of them are hard/impossible to upgrade. I need lots of RAM and a good number of cpu cores. 1.5 TB storage is enough. Would a minipc provide that?
I don't need that much performance anyways, but I REALLY need a good screen for reading articles, writing documents, and programming. I might throw up if I have to read another article on my 1366x768 laptop.

>>106825903
>is 1440p worth it
With a $1500 budget you could go either way. For your uses I would personally prefer 1440p for the extra real estate. I've found that 1080p offers too little horizontal resolution to run 2 programs side-by-side but YMMV.

>should I invest in OLED 1080p?
AFAIK there are no 1080p OLEDs (Aliexpress maybe) but you probably don't want one anyway. Most of your uses are static which will burn in quickly.

>would an X3D cpu serve my gaming needs?
It would, sure, but you can't really afford one with your budget without serious compromise on the rest of it.

>I don't feel like I need a GPU right now
You will need a video card to play RDR2. Quite a beefy one, in fact. Dropping that as a requirement would let you go down to a low-end card (or APU) but with $1500 you can certainly afford one.

>>106825942
hdr is an idiotic concept. AH YES LETS BLIND THE VIEWER SO THEY CANT SEE SHIT

>>106825950
the desktop APUs have outdated graphics so you would have to buy a separate graphics card along with your ryzen NON 3D cpu

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>>106825878
Why? My mouse is 1090hz. Isnt that the polling rate most people play on anyway?

>>106825960
if i remember correctly hdr is supposed to look similar to sdr but with brighter highlights, the entire picture isn't supposed to be brighter in every single scene. it could be that i am using a w-oled that has the white subpixel maybe idk.

>>106825975
seems a little high to me, I think 500 Hz is the sweet spot

>>106825960
this, its a shitty gimmick, no i don't need to see just exactly how bright the fucking sun is, its the sun, it hurts to look at.

>>106824630
wtf is that image name-tranny?

a niggars fujucked my cock

is harrible so harrible

why does niggars does that

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>>106825859
>24" 1080p for $230
Nope for $200 go ahead and grab this 27" 1440p@260Hz IPS while it's on sale for Prime Day or at ASUS's official store:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLWXSM7S
https://www.asus.com/us/displays-desktops/monitors/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-vg27aqm1a/

>>106825929
>web-driver
what the fuck is that? chink server connected to my mouse?

>>106825957
What screen size would you recommend? I am used to switching between programs, but side-by-side would indeed be a nice upgrade. The problem is that I also really need the screen to have a decent height or it's not worth it at all for me, who reads and writes a lot.
>Most of your uses are static which will burn in quickly.
Good take
>you can't really afford one with your budget
Oh fug I didn't know the 7800x3d was almost $500
>Quite a beefy one, in fact.
So I have to choose a good 1440p card? Which cards do you recommend given my budget? I am leaning towards AMD GPUs because anons say it's more compatible with linux.
>>106825973
Thanks for the heads up.

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>>106826058
it's a webpage that you access with any chromium browser that connects to your mouse.

>>106826090
NTA but I hate the antichrist so much. User-space drivers are so easy to shit out. You can even use C# on windows for that.

>>106826111
You can still install the software locally if you want to. I'll take this Web driver over shit like G-Hub, synapse and especially armoury crate.

>>106826144
logitech has the onboard memory manager which is basically the same thing, a portable application to configure the onboard memory

2 cents on mice: I still use wired headphones and some spikey mice like the original G502 / Hero can get caught on the wires. Just avoid spikey mice and go for all-rounded ones.

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>>106825903
>Use case: linux / making presentations and documents, programming, one or two lightweight VMs, platformer games, rdr2
Since you mentioned Linux you are better off with an AMD GPU as their driver support for it is better
>History: only used chromebooks, laptops, mac
>is 1440p worth it
Yes, and even 4K as the higher resolution and therefore pixel density of the screen will make text sharper and easier to work with.
>I don't need an ultra-wide monitor. In fact, I want an ultra-long monitor for better reading/writing.
What you can do is get a regular monitor and mount on a cheap VESA arm like this for $15-20 (the mounting holes are standard on the back of most monitors you buy) and then you can rotate it vertically (hotdog) and horizontally (hamburger) and it'll automatically adjust your desktop orientation to fit:
https://www.amazon.com/Suptek-Adjustable-Monitor-Monitors-Capacity/dp/B081YBBXYL
>should I invest in OLED 1080p?
I wouldn't go OLED unless you plan to have a secondary LCD to do desktop/text work on in a dual-monitor setup as burn-in is a concern if you used the OLED for productivity with lots of static content on-screen for prolonged periods
>would an X3D cpu serve my gaming needs?
Only as a splurge. and really at your budget not necessarily.
>I don't feel like I need a GPU right now (I don't care about AI slop) and would rather invest in future proofing with a good motherboard/cpu/monitor and buy a GPU later if need be.
As others have said you'll need a GPU to run RDR2 but if otherwise it wouldn't be required.

Here's an example build I made with your requirements/budget that you can bookmark and make edits to:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DM2nxg

The motherboard has a cheap CPU CPU that still has alright VM performance and has several more years of support on the socket of the motherboard giving you access to drop-in upgrades of faster CPUs later. Also might consider a 2x32GB RAM since you use VMs, but depends on how heavy your usecase is

>>106826072
>What screen size would you recommend?
27-32" is standard for 1440p depending on your viewing distance and visual acuity. I'd err towards 27" if you're a young guy with good vision and a normal-depth desk but either can work.

>I also really need the screen to have a decent height
The actual image displayed will be the same across all sizes at a given resolution. 1440p has more vertical space than 1080p, obviously, and a 27" will be taller than a 24". Any way it will be a massive upgrade over a 768p laptop; about twice the vertical space and 4x the space overall.

>Oh fug I didn't know the 7800x3d was almost $500
It's ca. $350-400 right now but the point was more about the balance of the build. Yes you could squeeze a $400 CPU into your budget but it'd mean cheaping out on every other component which is not ideal for a mixed-use workstation.

>So I have to choose a good 1440p card?
It's not so much that you /have/ to but rather that you /can/ afford one at $1500 if you so choose.

>I am leaning towards AMD GPUs because anons say it's more compatible with linux
Generally yes but it's not a huge deal. Like in any brand war, little truths get blown way out of proportion. I think personally I would go AMD in your case unless you have a need for CUDA. Nothing you said suggests that but it's there.

Here's a sample build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dwHKv4
Some parts are placeholders (monitor, mobo) but it should give you a general idea of what to aim for. I'll be back in about an hour if you've got any more questions.

i fucking hate my coolermaster v850 sfx. its so goddaamn loud. piece of shit.

>>106826166
on troonix I gets piper which allows me to reconfigure the whole thing without logitech crapware. and all mouse functions work just fine, everything is saved in g502 memory.

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>>106823974
>>106823974
so like rtx 5070 is still the best
price/performance ratio atm right? (new gpus only)

>>106826193
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DM2nxg
>>106826201
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dwHKv4
Thank you so much anons! Good advice and practical examples like this are a huge boost. I love you.
By the way, can I disable lgbt lights on case fans or any components that may have them or must I buy ones without the lights?

https://www.asrock.com/Graphics-Card/AMD/Radeon%20RX%209070%20XT%20Steel%20Legend%2016GB/index.asp
Can I do better than this for the use case of light workstation use (Adobe suite) and 1440p gaming, no extremely demanding games - at this stage - with ray tracing and so on? I know the 9070 XT is the standard recommended graphics card but I don't know how to choose a particular manufacturer, model etc.

>>106826286
Yes
Unless you can find basic 9070 on a *very* good deal
But 5070 Super Soon™
Therefore just WAIT © Hodl

I honestly don't even know what'd be the good thread to ask this, but does anyone have any experience with KVMs?
I need to use a MacBook (Pro M2 2022 for specifics as it turns out it matters) for work and I'm not allowed to have dev environment on my PC but I'd rather kill myself than go through the whole clown dance of suffering through the dogshit trackpad + apple keyboard experience bundled with a tiny-ass 13" screen, when I have normal human high-quality full-sized keyboard, mouse, and monitor(s).
I'd like to repurpose my current setup I'm using for gayming, which includes the peripherals and, very importantly, a Samsung Odyssey G7 Neo (32" VA model) running at 4K@120Hz over HDMI 2.1 to avoid DSC (as that disable a few Nvidia features and maybe even drops the maximum supported color depth).
So, whatever I'm going to plug that thing in should be good enough to not downgrade my gayming experience on top of allowing me to quickly attach the MacBook and use it like a normal human being as opposed to a retarded clown.

I'm pretty sure that the MacBook in question can't support multiple external screens until I shell out for a specialized dock - I might do that or I might stick to using just a single human-sized screen.
Or maybe actually using its own screen as a secondary - my desk should have enough space to fit it in without interfering with my other stuff.

Either way, what would be recommendations for this use-case? I'm currently leaning towards Level1 Tech's HDMI KVM as it seems to hit all the necessary requirements. It doesn't support USB-C power delivery I think but the laptop has two USB-C port so just plugging it in isn't an issue.
It's crazy expensive and shipping it here (to Japan) would likely make it go well over $1000 after shipping and customs.
I think I can find a use for it down the line as well, so if it's a good device for this use case, I'm willing to pay for it.
But what are the other options? Are there any reputable Chinese manufacturers?

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>>106826003
Wow! Thank you man for finding that deal. The only downgrade looks to be 100nits less brightness. Idk how much of a difference that makes but my current 75hz one is 300nits too and it seems bright enough to me. Thank you!

>>106826287
>By the way, can I disable lgbt lights on case fans or any components that may have them or must I buy ones without the lights?
RGB fans should be able to be disabled either with a physical switch on the case, software control with OpenRGB:
https://openrgb.org/
Or worst case just leave the RGB cable(s) unplugged.

>>106824222
logitech 402 if you dont need the extra buttons, logitech 502 if you do need the extra buttons
we have had this conversation before
the mouse meta has been solved for years now

>>106826295
>I know the 9070 XT is the standard recommended graphics card but I don't know how to choose a particular manufacturer, model etc.
It really doesn't matter much. FWIW though this PowerColor SKU is $30 cheaper for Prime Day:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CVVLV5TV

>>106826337
thx man!
the msrp of 9070 is insane here
i dont think they mass produce amd cards anymore

>>106826501
Thanks a lot.

>>106826501
openrgb doesnt detect my rams after the migration to pawnio :(

>>106826651
Tried this with the special driver?
https://old.reddit.com/r/OpenRGB/comments/1nk59f9/get_openrgb_working_with_pawnio_without_winring0g/

>>106825722
You're running games in dual monitor setup on a 4k AND a 1440p set of monitors?

>>106826651
I had the same issue. I deleted openrgb and deleted the folder in my appdata (you may want to copy and paste this folder somewhere else since it has your profiles in it). After I was sure I scrubbed everything, I did a restart then went to the Pawnio website and downloaded that and installed it. After that I installed openrgb again (non service) and right clicked on the exe and selected it to run in admin mode before starting it.
After this my ram was detected.

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>case supports long GPUs if you remove half of the drive cage
>modern cards are so thick they will hit the other half of the drive cage anyway
any silent cases that fit modern behemoth cards but also have space for HDDs and 5.25" bay devices?
the fractal define 7 seems to be discontinued?

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Do I have to plug in the CPU and/or RAM in order to flashback?
Or just the ATX_24pin power connector?

Genuinely asking, if AMD's market share is sub-3%, why are all tech youtubers and random people on r*ddit shitting on Nvidia and praising AMD? Have they ever actually daily driven AMD? Do they have something personal against Nvidia?

>>106826835
Good luck. I went on a case hunting spree this month and most cases are now entirely mesh meaning they're loud and dust magnets.
>BUT MUH TEMPS!
Cases these days are fucking shit.

>>106825102

no one knows yet what avx512 does

>>106826835
It isn't, just started building in one
Maybe poor availability in your area, too? Had to wait 3 weeks for the retailer to import it

Is a 9070 XT about the same size as a fucking GTX1080?
All the size stuff I'm seeing claim they are the same but I don't believe that's true.

>>106826835
dont think its discontinued but there is like 50 variations on it and they wont all be stocked

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>>106826870
I would expect the 9070 to be bigger
there will be some variation on size depending on the particular model

>>106826870
On PCpartpicker it should give you the length of the cards.

>>106826848
Just USB stick and 24pin connected.
It would kinda defeat the point if CPU was required.

>>106826870
can't be. A 1080 is 180W and 9070XT is 350W or smth, needs larger heatsink for sure

>>106826870
if you mean the reference 1080, they're all bigger than that.
only the powercolor reaper is modestly sized but everything else is at the very least longer

>>106826886
>>106826897
>>106826898
That's what I thought which was why I so befuddled.
Looks like I do need that new case.
Thanks anons :)

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>>106826892
Indeed hah
Many thanks

>>106826835
not like there's many manufacturer that are still making case for hdd and especially 5.25
aside from fractal, there's phanteks and probably silverstone, are those available in your area?

A reminder not to buy an Asrock board with 9800x3d or above.

>tfw ram sticks blew up a few months apart from each other

Is it worth going from 2x16 to 2x32?

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I'm looking to upgrade my cpu, but I need a new mobo. eeverything's expensive here in cuntland but I want something roughly middle of the road (motherboard-wise) that'll allow my old ass pc to live another 12 years

>>106827064
What are you hoping for with a new CPU? Personally I would go for an SSD first.

>>106827117
Good point, I do need to upgrade actually everything now that I think about it. fuck.
an SSD is a pretty easy thing to choose so I'm not too confused about it, but my motherboard is so fucking old that the cpu I have in it is the last compatible one with it's socket type, so I essentially have to base everything off of it. To answer your question I want a newer cpu for gaming

>>106826853
How is it 3% when it's 18% on steam and that includes laptop idiots and Chinese internet cafes?

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>>106823974
>>Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value

is this deep enough

>>106826853
No, they all need video editors for their staff and they all use nvidia GPUs in their work computers. If they are gamers they all have 4090s/5090s at home. Shitting on Nvidia gets views. And AMD sponsors all of these channels year round.
Except for Vex, he's actually poor, Steve from GN had to buy him a 5060 because he couldn't afford one.

>>106827064
you literally need an entirely new pc. You can maybe reuse your pc tower if its got a modernish size for gpus etc.

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>>106823974
found one of these on ebay, considering getting to use as a dedicated gpu for external monitor/s. my case has enough pcie slots. only potential issue is there's only a 1 slot gap between it and where my main gpu will be. I figure it should be an issue as the card is only half height so the fans it covers should be able to draw air from around it. any feed back is appreciated.

>>106827449
how old is the computer? like the specs itself. the gpu may not even work on modern windows its for 7-10 and those are discontinued both in drivers and support.

>>106827508
It's GCN 1.0, it can run DX12 and Vulkan. Not old Terascale.

I'm still on an ITX AM4 B350 motherboard.
A B550 board that I irrationally lusted over for a while is surprisingly not 1) out of stock and 2) overpriced. In fact, it's at an all time low.
I won't do it! No!

>>106827508
>how old is the computer?
build a new pc, heres the list of what i've got planned out.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/QgstzP
>the gpu may not even work on modern windows its for 7-10 and those are discontinued both in drivers and support.
I'm just going to be running linux on it.

>>106827534
the last official driver for that gpu is from 2022 for windows 10 only. trying to install that driver on windows 11 fucks up the wddm. linux has better gpu support for that card.

>>106827449
>found one of these on ebay, considering getting to use as a dedicated gpu for external monitor/s.
this is a bad idea. Your pc is designed to have 1 gpu in it, outside of niche production workflow scenarios. You're better off making a budget second pc for streaming/recording and running a second monitor on that.

>>106827627
Why are you using the old 2.5" SSDs? I hope they are carry over drives from your previous PC

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>>106827449
this one skinny

>>106827730
>this is a bad idea. Your pc is designed to have 1 gpu in it, outside of niche production workflow scenarios.
the second gpu is to get around x11 issues with vrr on multiple monitors with a single gpu.

>>106827753
>Why are you using the old 2.5" SSDs?
whats the problem with using them? any vidya I want to run fast will just go on the nvme, sata speeds should be fine for a linux os and media storage.
>>106827774
dp and hdmi ports are a plus thx.

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I HAVE A DREAM
I HAVE A DREAM THAT RTX 6070 WILL HAVE 32GB OR VRAM

>>106827730
don't make things up

>>106827939
im not, im simply explaining an observation from all the NJudean gpu owners who keep whining that their multi-monitor setups keep bugging out. They've been whining about it for years.

>>106827920
Shit, if not the 6070, then the 6070 Super. I might upgrade my 5070 to a 6070 Super if it's a significant upgrade and my 5070 starts struggling with 2028 games.

>>106827964
I dont care about video games i just want to generate videos

>>106827972
You're the reason why Nvidia refuses to give gaming-class GPUs more than 16GB of VRAM. They know that even a midrange 32GB GPU would eat into their Pro tier GPUs sales for budget-conscious sloppers.

>>106827985
or because, ya know, games don't need that much vram yet
and if a competitor wants to fill that space then they will, nvidias monopoly is mostly limited to AI
also, ram isn't cheap so you're not going to get a "midrange" with that much memory regardless.

If AMD managed to put "VRAM slot" on their GPU, thats where NVIDIA should be worried

>>106827167
I'd say that's a deep discount.
Look for motherboard combo deals too.

>>106828010
VRAM is very cheap, around $2-5/GB depending on the specifics, but you can't just "add more" to any given GPU. Unless you're just swapping out the chips, a la 5060Ti 8/16GB, you need to increase the physical size of the GPU die which is much more expensive. Both because TSMC wafers are $20k a pop now and designing a new die requires a bunch of R&D.

>>106823974
Did I get a good deal on a prebuilt for $1500 with these specs?

Intel Core i9-14900KF 3.2GHz, GeForce RTX 5070 12GB, 32GB DDR5, 2TB PCIe 4.0 SSD

>TN
Never again bros. Holy shit, the colours on an IPS screen are fucking incredible.

>>106827851
>whats the problem with using them?
At this point they are more expensive than other options for no reason

>>106828078
You got a decent deal as long as they didn't use bottom-barrel memory, storage, PSU, or motherboard.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KVCVkf

Update the motherboard BIOS if it does not have the latest microcode (0x12F).
You can check the CPU microcode through CPU-Z (Mainboard tab, CPU Microcode).

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>>106828229
>At this point they are more expensive than other options for no reason
yeah... maybe I should scale back to a 4 sata port board with 1 SSD for os and 3 HDD 2 mirrored and one hotswap in a mirrored raid cached onto a second nvme.

>>106828322
Or just spend a touch more on a board with more m.2 sockets and run 2TBs in those-- youd come out with a cheaper build with the savings on 2.5" SSDs alone. Then again IDK what your monopoly money AUD pricing is like on m.2 drives

where is the 12core 10800x3d

>>106828357
not happening
AMD realized consumers are content to keep buying 8 core playstation chips forever

Is it true it can be dangerous to keep my GPU fans not spinning for long amounts of time simply because it rarely gets hot enough for my fan control to signal it to start spinning? I noticed even if I set it at 1% on Fan Control, it's quite loud; it seems to have a minimal fan speed that doesn't scale as nicely as my CPU or system fans.

>>106824324
AMNiggers get the rope
>tfw 5070Ti chad
>>106825102
Dont listen to any of the faggots telling you otherwise, this is a fantastic CPU. AMD subhumans are just too third world to afford anything worthwile

>>106828342
>youd come out with a cheaper build with the savings on 2.5"
any money I save on 2.5' SSD gets eaten up by the only 4 slot nvme board I'd be willing to buy. Three slot mobo looks do able tho.

>>106828388
There are thermal protections in the GPU, it will downclock or even shut itself off.

>>106828466
I get that, but I can't set a proper curve because it seems to set itself at 30% as the minimal speed, with a pretty big RPM of 1200. I can't seem to finagle with it in MSI Afterburner either. Should I just leave it as automatic and not give it a custom fan serve?

>>106828493
There is a minimum speed that the fans will spin at given the way PWM works...

>>106828494
Okay. I was wondering because I thought if I force them to not spin at all because say I only want them to spin when they 50 Celsius (which rarely happens in my workload) you can get excess power that damages the components since it's not discharged by the fans spinning often enough.

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>He went full on amd-tard and didn't boughted a 265k that is/was on sale
Don't even need one, I'm buying them just to flip them in complete builds

>>106828023
pretty much not possible, GPU memory needs to be fast with good signal integrity

wtf like all lancool 2017s are sold out how

>>106828515
how good is it?

>>106828510
>I thought if I force them to not spin at all because say I only want them to spin when they 50 Celsius (which rarely happens in my workload) you can get excess power that damages the components since it's not discharged by the fans spinning often enough.
That wont happen and as another anon said, even IF, the card will thermal throttle itself so it wont be damaged anyway

best 360 aio case

>>106828342
recommend me a decent 2tb nvme drive that's substantially less than $270 dollaridoos

>>106828515
i boughted 9700x instead of 265k. I use CPU render a lot. How fucked am I?

>>106828601
Lexar.

tps://pcpartpicker.com/list/xvkPZc

Whats your verdict, opinion? Personally i would go with 9600/X but my friend pushes me into X3D

>>106828601
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#D=1&sort=price&page=1&A=1600000000000,2400000000000&X=0,24989

Do a bit of leg work on your own but there are plenty of options

>>106828629
Your friend is an idiot

for work it's pretty good value, depend on the price of ram/mobo though, for gaming it's comparable to a 9600/9700x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cqSz4k_HDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RcYrliKgvg

>>106828584
>>106828643

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>>106828609
>Me when I passed on the god tier 265k for a shitty 9700x

>>106828629
>9060 XT 16 GB
X3D is unnecessary but if 7800X3D is on a deal right now, why not I suppose

>>106828658
come one now i dont want to sell my 9700x. any down side for the 265k? help me cope

Do you really have to buy DDR5-8000 CL38 Memory for the 265K? I hear it's awful if you are using slower ram
I can't believe I'm considering this build

>>106828629
Get the x3d, IMO, get a cheaper board and get a 9070?

>>106828601
Acer GM7000, Adata Legend 960, KC3000?

>>106828680
and likely a z890 board
god the price of ram is pretty stupid even on prime day

>>106828678
9700x is more like a 13600k, while the 265k depending on what you're doing is pretty close to the i9, so take that as you will.

>>106828680
If you want to avoid regressing, vs. 14th gen, in gaming performance, yeah. Of course that's only when CPU bottlenecked; not the norm outside the lab.

>>106828680
>>106828719
Everything ive read about the intels is that ram speed is king (to a point) which can lead to your 'deal' on a processor going into the shitter rather quickly depending on what the mobo and ram prices are doing

>>106828745
you are not helping
>it might be as strong as an i9!!
i cant not cope with that information

>>106826193
>Good
9070XT has terrible support on Mint doe, tested it myself. At least the forums where helpful

>>106828680
>>106828750
It's also important to manually tune the interconnect frequency.
Arrow Lake CPUs are underclocked ootb.

>>106826287
>AsRock
Careful, better pick an MSI to avoid the risk of CPU damage

>>106828750
there's no to a point though, more of lottery with the memory controller if it would support faster speed
>>106828765
>comparing it with an i9
imagine being that delusional, i9 is still competitive in term off performance

>>106826835
Lian Li Lancool 217 has two HDD bays, provided you don't mount the fans on the underside of the platform

>>106828750
>your 'deal' on a processor going into the shitter rather quickly depending on what the mobo and ram prices are doing
Yeah this is what I'm finding. It looks like a deal then you do more research and that money just ends up in other components, not even in gpu...

>>106828807
>there's no to a point though, more of lottery with the memory controller if it would support faster speed
That is literally what to a point means, if you cant get your ram that is giga OC to run its not worth buying higher spec shit that may have better memory modules

>>106828815
>z890
>big money for ram
alright I can cope with this information. 9700x is fine. It is.

>>106826870
Bigger for shure, my Sapphire Pulse doesn't have all that fluff other manufacturers add and it's still a hulking slab

>>106828765
Well I don't know why anyone would buy a 9700x to begin with even with a deal. You either get a 9600x because you believe the last gen of processors on am5 will be absolutly god tier (lol) and want something cheap, or you get a 9800x3d and accept you just way overspent for a totally mid tier processor that's only good at games.
You got memed.

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>>106828828
>>106828765

>>106828815
Arrow Lake isn't worth the overall cost for gaming unless you're into OCing Intel CPUs.

>>106828828
I wanted 14600k but the degrading issue was running rampant.

>>106828854
Couldn't you get a 7700x?

>>106824222
glorious gaming is a good brand people haven't mentioned yet.

>>106828838
yoo fuck u i cant coping if u keep posting shit likes this
9700x is aight. A corona render that took 9700x 30 mins will take about 8 mins faster on 265k. 8 mins is nothing. 8 mins is aight. I can wait that little time.

>>106828865
i got my 9700x for the same price as 7700x

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reminder to not buy a monitor that is too small for the resolution it is trying to display and requires dpi scaling. you're wasting money for resolution that you can't even use, and hindering your performance.

>>106828854
Well the degradation was realistically an i9 issue, and at the very least was extremely rare on the i5.
After microcode updates they'll give out way before you actually hit a dangerous overclock and at stock what's needed for 5.1/5.3ghz isn't at all concerning even if your motherboard has retarded defaults.
>>106828873
It's time to leave these childish things behind and get a real white mans build that's exclusively Intel + Nvidia. You don't need snake oil in your life.

>>106828888
Other way round, don't buy 27" 1080p monitor, learn from a retard.

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14th gen has the lowest platform cost because you already own DDR4
>>106828854
reasonable if it was before all the microcode updates came out
if you're still scared of 14th gen you have no one to blame but yourself
>>106828865
why would you get that instead

I've got a 9800X3D build and a 265K build and they basically come out to the exact same price. I do more than just game but I still feel that 265K isn't offering much value, I thought it'd be a could hundred saved at the least.

>>106828898
>bag holding 14th gen and unironically shilling it
KWAB

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>>106828898
Point and laugh.

>>106828895
yes you can go too far in the opposite direction but that only happens to 1080p. it's rare to find 1440p over 32" and only TVs are over 48" at 2160p.

>>106828913
>He doesn't know that LGA 1700 as a whole was divine intervention and some would even say god's gift to man
kek what a bitch

>>106828925
Nah you got conned
I already sold my 13900k and z790 at a minor loss and changed to a 7800x3d at a slight profit before the whole degradation issue blew up :^)

>>106828913
i considered a used 7950X3D since i found a pretty good deal on it but the only advantage that setup would have is power consumption
>>106828925
this, so much this

Do you guys think a VXE R1 at 21 bucks is a good deal or no? Considering getting a new mouse, since my 203 prodigy is on it's way out and I kinda wanted to try what the fuss was about ultralight wireless (thoug, I'll probably stick to cabled). Any suggestions? Buying from aliexpress btw.

>>106828938
7000x3d was trading blows with 13th/14th gen when it launched but pulled ahead of them since the 24H2 Ryzen performance patches dropped

>>106828952
Even in 1% lows?

Thing is, 265k looks good on paper cause it looks cheap but then you have to buy absurdly expensive mainboard (with no upgrade prospect) and RAMs for it to break even with 9700x in gaming.

>>106828551
Make it possible. This is literally the only way to beat Nvidia

>>106828973
china will do it

>>106828952
at stock maybe
zen 4 X3D is just too clock and IPC constrained, zen 5 was a huge upgrade even if it doesn't show up on most people's systems because they're running garbage RAM timings

>>106828980
Good luck lol

>>106828969
not everyone bases the value of something purely on gayming
idk why your kind even builds or has a PC desu

>check asrock subleddit
>daily posts about x3d cpus dying
lmao

i've only ever had 1 asrock motherboard during the lga 775 era so i have basically no experience, but have they released any noteworthy boards in the past?

>>106828949
>Vaxee knockoff, but well reviewed
$21 isn't the end of the world.

>>106828995
In the past they were noteworthy for having the worst BIOS ever and being unstable as shit. And this was on rock solid CPUs. Anyone building 15 years ago isn't surprised by this latest catastrophe, it's their heritage.

>>106828995
All the taichi boards are note worthy. They are especially known for lower end boards being good. B650M HDV/M.2, cool live mixer boards, Steel Legend is pretty cool. I think they were proper good in AM4 and AM5 until zen5 came out.

>>106828969
Yeah I guess it's rolling another year until Nova Lake (even though I kinda badly need an upgrade now). And Zen6 is meant to be a big upgrade too to 12core ccd. Everything seems to say upgrade in 2026. Maybe I'll cope for a year with one of those gaming pc handhelds, could be fun to tinker with at least.

>>106828995
>but have they released any noteworthy boards in the past?
The sad thing about ASRock's AM5 shitshow is they have some good boards worth recommending based on specs & value.
>B850(M) Pro-A
>B850 Live Mixer
>X870E Nova
The Taichi boards are usually okay.
B650M HDV M.2 is still a good budget board that isn't plagued with CPU-killing issues.

>>106828994
265k only beats 9700x in multi-cores workloads. Most people dont even know what multi-cores workload is. And even if they do need it, GPU-accelerated is very common nowadays, so it doesnt even matter.
As for workstation, 9700x/265k is too cheap/weak for pros to use, lol.

>>106829021
I really can't workout what's gone so wrong for them with this chipset, I guess neither can they.

>>106829015
>In the past they were noteworthy for having the worst BIOS ever and being unstable as shit
For normal users or tweakers?
I've noticed overtime when people talk about BIOS it's purely based on how easy something is to OC and nothing to do with normal PC use.

>>106829020
You can cope with a discounted x800x3d if you can find one
I did that and earned $30 from selling my 7800x3d compared to what I paid for it when I moved to the 9800x3d that I originally wanted

>>106829025
Intel has some pretty good boards

Zen 6 will blow IntelAviv out of water. Trust the plan.

>>106829006
Figured, my main issue is that I won't benefit from the 2k polling rate because I'm not gonna buy the reciever.

why do i keep seeing the i9 285k mentioned everywhere?
is it good?

>>106828995
Their z170m oc formula was pretty well regarded and eventually was modded and used for 9900k overclocking
They haven't made an equally impressive board since then
Before the dying issue blew up, lots of people shilled the x870e nova but IMO that board is pretty bandwidth constrained since 4 out of 5 of their m2 slot passes through the chipset which gimps them to a shared x4 gen4 bandwidth at most.

>>106829080
It got a heavy discount recently but is still crazy overpriced.

>>106829025
>Most people dont even know what multi-cores workload is
most people don't know what /pcbg/ is either
retarded argument
>>106829043
asrock (and gigabyte) have the best BIOS because they just put all the options in there without trying to rearrange or organize it lmao
while ASUS tries to be "user friendly" by changing the name of every single option and hiding options they think are unnecessary for your mortal eyes to see
then they put lots of AI auto overclocking shit in there which is supposed to look impressive but in reality it fries your CPU
>>106829080
265K can be great value depending on what you want and need
285K is questionable, you're getting 4 E-cores and 200 MHz for almost twice the price

>>106829082
>but IMO that board is pretty bandwidth constrained since 4 out of 5 of their m2 slot passes through the chipset which gimps them to a shared x4 gen4 bandwidth
More of a limitation with AM5 than anything else.
Other boards with lots of M.2 tend to use CPU lanes which might be good if you want NVMe directly to the CPU but for the paranoid twats the Nova PCIe layout is preferred

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>>106829020
Pic is all the Arrow Lake tuning & stability testing you have to do to get better gaming performance.
>'Muh Redditor'
4Chan doesn't really have an active PC overclocking community.
This Redditor's sharing his experience after OCing a 285K on an Apex board.

>>106829080
It's intel's newest and best CPU that rivals the 9950x3d in multi core performance that also doesn't guzzle a gorillion watts, but it's gaming performance is trash. Like you need expensive 8400mt/s ram for it to barely match a 12700k/7700x with dirt cheap 6000cl30 memory

>>106829104
>4Chan doesn't really have an active PC overclocking community.
yeah because we are using our PCs to post on 4chan rather than a separate tinker toy

>>106829039
I saw one YT channel telling it was the CPU and not the mobo since its happening on other manufacturers too.

>>106829102
in term of plug and use 9700x got it beat mate.
you have to take care of your ram, tuning the clock of the CPU, and watch your temp with the 265k. If you dont ever touch multi-core workloads 9700x is better and less hassle to use

>>106829120
Some retailers and PC builders stopped ordering ASRock AM5 boards because their stuff is disproportionately causing the issue.
ASRock's server DDR4 boards are also having reliability issues; it's a mess.

>>106829137
Its a shame because I really liked asrock.

>>106829129
running your system at stock is cringe and i never factor that into the equation
>If you dont ever touch multi-core workloads 9700x is better and less hassle to use
a PS5 would be even less of a hassle

>>106824894
>just spend recklessly bro

>>106829156
anyway, says what multi-core workloads are we talking here?
Video rendering? I dont know about this.
But for 3d and animation, likes blender, its all GPU's job nowadays.
Most renderers that worth their salt use GPU for render. The only exception is Corona.
You see, multi-core workload that needs CPU is very niche.
Most people who buy CPU in this price range simple dont have the needs for it.

>>106824894
You're in the wrong place, the smartphone general is the one where people scream poorfag all day

/pcbg/ is full of minmaxing poorfags and that one guy with an RTX 6000 Pro

>>106829191
you forgot code compiling (and web development?)

>>106829020
If zen6 is on AM5 too, and Zen7 onwards its DDR6, AM5 will go down as legendary. But, I don't need to upgrade from my 7900x anytime soon so, this is going to go strong for at least 9 more years.

>>106829196
minmaxxxxing is half the fun of pcbg
whats the point of buying whole phone that you cannot modify in any ways? boring

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>>106829191
here's a multi-core workload that everyone is familiar with
>Most people who buy CPU in this price range simple dont have the needs for it
need and want isn't the same thing
you want a good PC, so you buy a good PC
>>106829198
intel should release a CPU with 500 E-cores so i can compile linux really fast

>>106829203
It would be less impressive than am4 if zen6 was the last generation and more impressive than am4 and even legendary if it supports zen7

>>106823974
I'm a tard
ram is both constrained to cpu and motherboard restraints right?
so whatever the limit on one is what you have to get right?
so if the cpu say ddr5 5600, you cant get go higher than that despite the motherboard saying it can go higher?

>>106829225
Zen7 might be pushing it, because we might move to next gen of RAM. I can't wait to see what TSMC is going to pull next. Is TSMC even a human creation?

>>106829241
Your initial assumption is correct but you can almost always go over the technically rated memory speed with the configs most people are going to use.

>>106829241
you can set your ram speed to whatever you want. The last time I checked the world record was around 12000

>>106829219
Sorry, but youre only getting 500 Ultra Low Power E-Cores that are the equivalent of embedded Skylake

>>106829241
Yes, lowest performing part is going to be the bottleneck. But which CPU has 5600 limit? Some threadripper? What are you building? But like the other anon said, if you have time, you can do a bit of OC.

My hands are 17.9cm. Recommend me a mouse, because I tried the Deathadder v3 Pro and that mouse hurt my hand.

>>106829269
>Start render workload
>CPU vdroops to 0.5v and crashes

>>106829282
17.9 cm what? height or width?
>>106829245
arent tsmc just chip manufacturer? shouldnt you praising the chip designer instead?

>>106829301
>17.9 cm what? height or width?

Whatever is the one that is left to right.

>>106829241
CPU only ever lists what is guaranteed to be stable. They can usually handle much more so long as you have a good memory controller on it and a board to power it. RAM OC/tuning is very autistic, I'll not even pretend I know more than flipping on XMP/EXPO

>>106829241
>>106829270
He's probably going by the speed officially listed in the CPU spec sheet.
Most CPUs can push the memory speeds faster than those reference specs.
But there's not much point in going beyond 6000MT/s for AM5 unless you're into overclocking.
For DDR5 PCs, the most common memory speed bottleneck is the CPU's integrated memory controller.

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How it feels owning an all AMD PC in 2025 now that njudea and jewtel teamed up and bribing all devs to optimize only for them
>I've told you this once before, can't control me
>If you try to make me green, you're gonna break
>And I feel your every upscale, that you're doing for me
>I'm thinking you oughta make your own PC

>I stand alone red
>I stand alone

>You're always hiding behind your so-called Jensen
>So what? You don't think that we can see your tessellation
>Resurrected under the map before the frames falling
>I'll never rest until I can make my own way
>I'm not afraid of raytracing

>I stand alone
>Feeling your DLSS down inside me
>I'm not dying for it
>I stand alone
>Everything that I render is artifacting
>I stand alone red
>I stand alone

>And now it's my time (now it's my time)
>It's my time to dream (it's my time to dream)
>Dream of the skies (dream of the skies)
>Make me believe that this game isn't plagued by the RDNA in me
>Help me decide if my fans will burn out before you can breathe
>Breathe FPS into me

>I stand alone red
>I stand alone
>Feeling your DLSS down inside me
>I'm not dying for it
>I stand alone
>Everything that I render is artifacting

>I stand alone red
>I stand alone red
>I stand alone red
>I stand alone red

what can we expect of zen 6? how much stronger Zen 6 cpus will be compared to their zen 5 equivalent?

>>106829333
amd nvidia hybrid here. hybrid is always the strongest. In mythology, in real life, in animal kingdom, everywhere. The hybrid always is the strongest.

>>106829342
is there some new exciting tsmc packaging technology they're gonna use?

>>106829311
your hand is not big so whatever will work. dont choose too big and heavy mouse tho.

>>106829333
All AMD since AMD Dragon Platform
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Dragon
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phenom-x4-955,2278.html

>>106829360
Nope, it's just meant to be on 2nm and get a core bump

>>106829392
whats the physical limit? 1nm? can we go below 1nm?

>>106829333
>bribing all devs to optimize only for them
Bullshit victim complex, see BF6 beta benchmarks.
There is no priority for NVIDIA optimizations. At best, it's just launch-day DLSS, Reflex, and (Multi) Frame Generation support.

There might be some CPU optimizations for Intel, but it's not deliberately sabotaging AMD CPU performance.
That's a waste of game devs' time, especially if they're just porting the console version of the game.

>>106827326
I might as well buy a new tower with it too.
R8 https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/n7hrNz

>>106829342
>New low latency, low power interconnect finally replacing zen2 era chiplet design
>+50% ccx size to 12-cores and 48MB L3 cache
>V-cache option will scale to 144MB per ccx
>Biggest chip will have 24 cores across two CCDs
>Tsmc 2nm core chiplet die and 4nm io die
>Supposedly 7ghz clocks (unconfirmed)
We don't know what uarch changes AMD will do to it which may give it 5-15% higher IPC

>>106829301
There are a lot of great chips designers, AMD, Apple, Intel, Qualcomm etc. But all of them use TSMC to manufacture. It's easy enough to understand a basic version of chip manufacturing is, but that small and at that scale is mind boggling, they should've won 10 Nobel prized by now. Them and ASML.

How retarded am i?

I am a webdev fullsteck, that have over 20years under his dick, I can get a job in most companies.

But I am about to get a job of a PC repair man, for a semi big PC retail company.

Pay will be nothing special, but repairing HW is just such a passion to me.

I am planning to work on dev jobs when I come home.

>>106829479
if they actually pull off even two of those zen 6 will dominate the market
but the speculation for zen 5 was just as wild

>>106829521
You know how retarded you are, but go ahead, its the same as you wanting to drive uber because you want human connection. Nothing new, remember to comeback when you are bored. It will stop being challenging very soon, and you will start to hate your life, atleast try to get into something challenging like board repair.

>>106829479
what will be intel's answer to this?

>>106829521
Not retarded at all. I find people who follow their passions much more likeable and respectable than those who only follow money

>>106829521
holy old fag 20 years ago i was just a 10 years old dicklet

>>106826820
I have one 24'' monitor (1080p) and the other is 27'' (1440p). The game runs on 27'' at 1440p.
24'' is for browsing stuff while gaming.

>>106829521
It sounds dumb but you're 20 years deep if money is no motivation do what you want

>>106829552
Two CCDs of 8+16 cores plus another 4 lpe cores on the IO die for a total of 52 cores and 52 threads
It should be a beast if they can manage to get the latency down which they might since it'd be their 2nd gen tile soc (not counting lunar lake which was low latency because of it's low core count)

All the sales are being saved for Black Friday hold

>>106829452
- You can use the stock cooler for that CPU
- go with a cheaper board, b650m hdv/m.2
- You NEED DDR5 6000, CL30, no compromises there.
- If you are buying HDD, it better be good, Ironwolf or Ironwolf pro, WD Red or something. - GPU is fine, buy consider a 9070xt from saving money elsewhere.
- For a budget build why Fractal? Your case costs more than some of the parts which is atrocious, get some Lian Li or Coolermaster ones.
- PSU might be fine, check HWBusters or Cybernetics
- If you buy win10 key, that too win10, you are not allowed on pcbg. Go to /fwt/ and find out how to activate.

>>106829602
>You NEED DDR5 6000, CL30, no compromises there.
wait what?
i got 5200 one instead am I fucked

>>106829602
I've done pirated installs of win10 before, that's easy, I just wanted something to put there.
also why DDR5 6000

>>106829354
>t.amerimutt

Should I buy a used PC on ebay? I see some listings with decent parts. I only got $300

>>106829696
What's in the pre built you're looking at?

>>106829696
its probably better than not having a pc
used is always cheapest option

>>106829688
come on now, dante and vergil are cool cause they are hybrid. the nephelem saved the world in diablo cause they have the strongest potential

>>106829620
you're losing some speed because the ram speed is not aligned with the memory controller clock. plus the timings are awful for the price (cl40). return those sticks and get a pair of corsairs 6000 cl30 for less money, and read the OP next time

I mean I have a similar setup with an ultrawide 120hz as my main and a portrait monitor at 60hz for browsing and have no issues with variable refresh rates. What's happening with your setup?

>>106829704
There's this one that has a Ryzen 5 5500, 5500 xt, 16gb ram. For $300
Also messaged some sellers that didn't have a description
>>106829708
I'll probably end up doing it. My 10 year old PC just died so anything would be an upgrade desu

>>106829333
what the hell are you talking about boy? 9800x3d shits on anything intel in 99% of games.

>>106829783
300 for that is aight. If u can haggle and lower the price a bit more then its a steal. 250 is good.

>>106829783
it can play some older games at least, then if you upgrade gpu later to something like 5060 it'd be almost modern

>>106829479
>Supposedly 7ghz clocks (unconfirmed)
there's no way
maybe somewhere in the 6ghz range

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I've been considering buying a 4TB M2 SSD for a while now since I'm nearing max on most of my drives or close enough, and my 1TB filled up plenty fast with stuff getting deleted/reinstalled/etc. What with all the Win10 bullshit about to come up I've been considering moving to Linux.

What's a good SSD for that? Tons of shit on sale on Amazon right now and Black Friday is right around the corner too. I have a Samsung 970 right now, saw 990s et. al. on sale, but the OP lists it specifically for Windows, don't know if there's a reason why. WD Black drives get advertised to hell and back but I remember hearing they weren't actually great, comparatively.

>>106829808
7ghz and 15% increase in IPC equal to about 20-30% increase in raw performance
too good to be true

>>106829783
For $300 it's k, nothing too wild unless the mobo or psu or something is way overkill.
Of course the better value in the long term would be like a used am5 or lga1700 board + new processor + like a single stick of ram to keep it under $300 and just waiting for the gpu and case and shit.

>>106829812
Samsung drives' performance nosedives when you use Linux
Wd black SSDs are jack of all trade SSDs that works well across all configurations
In windows the 990 pro is slightly better than the sn850x in performance and you get the benefit of single sided nand on the 4tb version making it easier to cool unlike the double sided 4tb sn850x

>>106829620
Just return it, you are not fucked, but that is very suboptimal.

I've got a 9060xt 16gb and Im thinking of getting a monitor, the big question on my mind is should I be a 1080p Kang running everything at 180fps+ or a 1440p nobleman who can only run older games and esports titles at higher than 100fps. What do you guys think?

>>106829829
>7ghz
7ghz in room temp is wild, I remember when my laptop was like 1.2ghz boosted.

>>106829879
Get 1440p, 240hz IPS, these are like less than 250bux these days.

>>106829884
Have you seen the latest apple iPhone chip? They're doing 4.26ghz in a <10W envelope on passive cooling

>>106829879
depends what the rest of your pc is like, your current monitor specs and what sorta games you play. just going from a TN panel to something with decent colours is a massive QoL improvement, but i don't think anyone should be buying 1080p monitors in 2025 unless it's a 500hz+ monitor for CS/valorant.

>>106829916
That's wild, for me the first thing that I've owned that goes beyond 2ghz is my 7900x I think.

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Nice time to pick up oleds, only if I can sell my current monitors. They are good IPS ones, can't justify it at least for the next five years.

>fall for the ultrawide meme
>browsing 4chan is the worst thing imaginable now
ive been bamboozled.

>>106830291
hell I almost dont want to upgrade from 24 to 27 I feel like it'd be worse for general browsing and programming

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>>106829851
Good to know for Linux specifically. Shit, researching it again, I'm seeing nothing but good things about the WD blacks, *especially* for Linux. There something I'm missing here? I remember people saying to be wary of WD, was there a bad batch a year or two ago, drive failures or did I just get shitposted hard?

>Cooling
How critical is external cooling on an SSD? My 970 Evo Plus seems fine with just the factory config and my mobo's default bracket, is newer shit running hotter?

>>106830291
4chan is best browsed with a 27" monitor in vertical position

>>106826003
>matte
why would they do this?

>>106829771
that was a different anon, but got it

>>106830329
Some WD drives, mainly ones that relied on HMB caching (i.e. dramless SSDs) were seeing corrupted partitions or whole system crashes when windows updates exposed flaws in the firmware. This isn't specific to WD and affects a whole host of drives made by brands like Corsair, micron, sabrent etc.

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>>106830291
I dunno what you mean

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>>106823974
>he upgrades his computer instead of optimizing his OS and programs

what does that schizo get out of juvenile brand war spam anyway

The 6950xt for $379 on amazon sounds like a pretty good deal.

You could get a 9070xt at MicroCenter for $600 like 2 days ago idk if they sold out or not, but that's a lot more money.

The a770 16gb version afaik still hasn't caught up with the 6950xt, though it might still be driver issues.

>>106830666
never buy last gen amd gpu

>>106824443
There are no equivalent tiers of display
same reason as to why you are forced to buy 5090 if you want "that tier" of performance

>>106825942
bad config + possibly shit display

>>106825995
>this, its a shitty gimmick
yikers

>>106828888
haven't you given up this meme yet lol

>>106829812
I got the WD Black, it's 60 dollars cheaper than the 990 pro.