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i still in 22h2 (oem lisence)
how do i make it iot ltsc ?

My existing win10 installation is pretty fucked and I'm moving to a new pc so I want to to either reinstall 10 or migrate to 11. What would (you) recommend and why?
Win10 has been alright for me and Win11 direction (more spyware, more telemetry, more slurping up your data) is concerning. All the same I do want "modern" features like seamless jxl support n shit so idk.

>>106814673
The ways to disable things like telemetry between 10 and 11 are exactly the same i.e. tools like ShutUp10++. Also using the Enterprise or LTSC branches of it to get the mos control over the system.

What W11 version should I upgrade to if I don't care much about privacy/security/whatever but still want to minimize bloat and useless stuff running in the background? All I do is play games and torrent media.

Is a W11 IoT LTSC clean install good enough? I would prefer not getting into complicated things that could risk breakage unless it's to disable any AI bullshit.

>>106815692
Anon disabling it all is so easy that you should just do it anyway. Always use Enterprise, which IoT LTSC is a variant of.

>>106815692
Just use Enterprise and ShutUp10++, it's easy, you can just use the recommended options if you don't care enough to go through them. I would also recommend using WinUtil and selecting the "Set services to manual" option in the tweaks menu.

>change everything except gpu in a pc
>plug in the old SSD
>win10 just works (tm)
huh, didn't expect that

can i upgrade from w11 pro(24h2) to Enterprise IoT LTSC 2024 and keep all my shit?

>>106816171
Modern Windows is very good about suddenly finding itself in new motherboards with new components. Windows Update will just get what it needs.

>>106816196
There's a guide on the massgrave blog on how to do that. There's no official way, but there's a hacky way to do it. It involves basically tricking your system into that it's repair upgrading an already existing IoT LTSC install.

Could I activate Windows 10 loT LTSC with the product key I have for Windows 11? I currently use Manjaro but I was thinking of using Windows again for one specific software that’s a pain to set up with Wine.

>>106813837
Is there an alternative to visual studio and their awful compiler for programming in sepples/Chad?
I'm used to LLVM with other languages and wanna know if using Clang would cockblock me out of poosoft libraries(or other libraries that expect you to use poosoft toolchain)
I'm also open for suggestions on what build system to use, i just need something simple so i can focus on learning sepples 1337 haxoring, not fighting against the compiler or build system that came straight from satan's diarrheic asshole.
Thx

>>106816271
No, it would need an IoT LTSC 2021 product key that you don't have. Though people don't bother with actual keys and just use the MAS suite in the OP to activate their Windows.

>>106816196
>mum asked to help her transition from Onenote for Windows 10 to something else
>Open it in web to check out the files and maybe export them for local backup
>now stuck in perpetual "sync" state that locks me out from all the notebooks for an hour and who know for how much longer
What is this fucking bullshit man

>>106817142
Wow what a great MS product

>>106817153
It was pretty easy-to-use and convenient until they said they're abandoning it. Guess that's a story similar to most cloudshit products.

>>106817185
You should probably just move the notes to a more popular app like Obsidian/Notesnook/Joplin

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I've got Windows 11 Home upgraded from Windows 8 I got way back when I was in middle school. Can I just use massgrave to upgrade it to Professional?

>>106817211
Yes, you can upgrade it to Enterprise if you want too.

>>106817195
Yeah I'm considering options right now but first I gotta export her data somehow.

>>106817222
Well hopefully it stops fucking around and allows you to actually use the export feature.

>>106817216
So I just put that powershell line, choose the pro/enterprise and it'll just be activated? Anything else I need to know? Like do I need up restart, update, etc?

>>106817237
It'll change the edition and Windows will work on it and restart itself. Then when you get back you run it again and run the HWID activation.

>>106817236
Every time I had to deal with Microsoft accounts bullshit it has been a goddam fucking dreadful experience, to be honest. How the fuck such a big corpo is unable to make a sensible UX without 500 websites and subdomains for every fucking function, app and type of account they have?

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Is there a deadline to upgrade my Win10 to the Enterprise edition?
I will do it in the weekend but I am a bit bored.

>>106818195
You might as well just do it now because of how fairly quick it is to do
Change edition > re-activate > activate ESU

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>>106818245
I think I need the IoT version. It has a few more steps to protect My Documents and all that I think..

>>106813837
is it possible to switch to iot ltsc from win10 pro without full format

>>106818278
Well according to this you're actually fine, already having activated the ESU licenses.
Pro gets the full three years like Enterprise/Education, only Home doesn't.

>>106818371
Yes. The massgrave blog outlines what to do in its 10 EoL section.

>>106818429
But these last like 1-2 more years. The IoT is for the next 10 years.

>>106818457
It's three years. But if you want the 2032 date then you need to follow said outline on how to convert a GAC 10 install into IoT LTSC using registry hacks and an IoT LTSC fake repair upgrade.

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>>106818467
>If your device is enrolled in ESU (Extended Security Updates), you can receive security fixes (only critical and important ones, not feature updates) for an extra year, through October 13, 2026

>>106818616
It's talking about general Home users here.

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>>106818636
That's nice. I will wait then before I put IoT or maybe WIn11 gets good and stable.

>>106818675
cute

>>106818429
>Yes. The massgrave blog outlines what to do in its 10 EoL section.
Thanks

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I love Windows!

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There's nothing "friendly" about windows anymore.

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Getting this on the Windows 11 LTSC ISO from MAS, is this normal?

>>106819286
is this actual news or the same nothingburger of months ago?

>>106819798
may be a false flag

in any case, you could check the hash of your ISO file, which language and region did you download?

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>>106820078
I downloaded the top link here:
https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links
The SHA256 hash is 4F59662A96FC1DA48C1B415D6C369D08AF55DDD64E8F1C84E0166D9E50405D7A

>>106813837
>IoT LTSC 2022: https://pastebin.com/rHcgvYS7
Did everything in this guide, dism did its thing but after reboot the version is still 21H2.
Could be an issue due to me previously "upgrading" from Pro 22h2 to IoT 21h2?

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>>106820119
it seems to be the correct hash from the MS website, which means that it's likely a false positive, not sure why rufus would detect it as an invalid bootloader, but you should try to install with Secure boot on and tell us if it throws any errors

>>106819984
what nothingburger? they're literally patching out ways of making local accounts. Eventually there won't be workarounds anymore.

>>106820231
it was a nothingburger because months ago people panicked about that but to this day the bypassnro script is still there

I installed W10 IoT Enterprise LTSC in English and wanted to add a Japanese language pack. Couldn't find it in settings, couldn't install it through lpksetup since it says "The language cannot be installed on this computer"
Re-read the docs and discovered I was a retard since foreign language installs need the non-IoT version of LTSC before converting to IoT
Am I screwed or can I be saved from reinstalling from scratch somehow

>>106820153
>>106813837
>IoT LTSC 2022
can this shit cause issues with security updates on iot ltsc after oct 14th? like maybe they check for build version for win10 updates and considering iot is not supposed to have 22h2 it will get rejected or something.

>>106813837
sex with shamiko
nakaԁashi with shamiko
impregnation with shamiko
marriage with shamiko

are there any reg tweaks worth doing to LTSC 2025?

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Will a ssd improve that much my file explorer in w10, sirs?

>>106822074
it's a night and day difference, dear sir

>>106822074
yes but also you should label all folders for "general items" instead of specific purpose, for whatever reason, file browsing slows down by x1000% if you have picked any other options

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>>106818703
It's YOU who's cute, buster! :3

>>106813837
>>How do I activate Windows?
>HWID2 generates and registers a permanent legitimate license on MS's activation servers
>https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
>Usage: paste this into Powershell, run.
>irm https://get.activated.win | iex
>>and Office?
>Same link, select Ohook option
>You can also use Office.com if your needs are very minimal
Thanks for this. I'm interesting in MS Office being used instead of OnlyOffice/LibreOffice for some reason.

Does that really work in Windows 10 and Windows 11? ...

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>ponyfag

I know I know, but so we're all in the same page:

>Only one method was removed, start ms-cxh:localonly
>It was NOT in the main channel
>bypassnro still works
>other methods still work, like rufus

Even if they somehow remove all other methods (unlikely), you can just use a burner email to setup Windows, create a local account and remove the online one.

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is there a copypasta of all the privacy concerns with Win11 anywhere
I kind of forgot about Win11 after hearing about the stability issues it had right on launch until today, I've already activated ESU with massgrave on my desktop for now but I want to know how fucked Win11 is before I decide what to do about my main desktop as I actually need a ton of proprietary windows-only industry-specific software

>>106822093
Didn't know about this good to know

I need to burn windows 10 into a 4.7 GB dvd but all versions I download are too big for the dvd and I cant burn it.

I am currently on latest kubuntu and I get a system freeze at least once a week.
I am currently looking at going back to windows but windows 11 is atrocious (my hardware is also (probably) not officially compatible with windows 11) but how good are the versions like windows server or ltsc ? Do they also require retarded hardware requirement, also are recall, telemetry, ads included in those versions?

>>106822157
About https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts : may not have to download or git clone this.

About "irm https://get.activated.win | iex":
>https://web.archive.org/web/20251007223807/https://old.reddit.com/r/PowerShell/comments/181l9lh/what_is_irm_httpsmassgravedevget_iex/
>irm = Invoke-RestMethod
>iex = Invoke-Expression
>irm is used to download a string
>iex is used to execute it as code

When powershell runs the script at https://get.activated.win it subsequently runs the code at one of or all three of these links:
>https://git.activated.win/massgrave/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts/raw/commit/ab6b572af940fa0ea4255b327eb6f69a274d6725/MAS/All-In-One-Version-KL/MAS_AIO.cmd
>https://raw.githubusercontent.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts/ab6b572af940fa0ea4255b327eb6f69a274d6725/MAS/All-In-One-Version-KL/MAS_AIO.cmd
>https://dev.azure.com/massgrave/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts/_apis/git/repositories/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts/items?path=/MAS/All-In-One-Version-KL/MAS_AIO.cmd&versionType=Commit&version=ab6b572af940fa0ea4255b327eb6f69a274d6725
The first link is a 782,951-byte text file with 19,861 lines of code. Suspicious, but OK.

>>106813837

is it worth to try to find some alternative to skype since it shutdown or should I just use teams?

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>windows vista: shit
>windows 7: good
>windows 8: shit
>windows 10: good
>windows 11: shit
Should I just wait for windows 12?

>>106822178
>Even if they somehow remove all other methods (unlikely), you can just use a burner email to setup Windows, create a local account and remove the online one.
Worth noting that anyone can run their own email server, the biggest annoyance or hurdle is enabling port forwarding and ensuring some level of security on that. So:
- enable port forwarding on the router
- have a mail server running and exposed
- can then send and receive email at me@134.1.3.1 = you@[your IP address]
- may even work by ip:port like admin@143.110.186.70:8080

>ponyfag
I love ponies and a large part of the fan artwork and creations. Don't particularly like interacting with the fandom other than that. BTW, there's some MLP references and animated horses in the shitty sitcom titled "Solar Opposites".

>>106822383
Have you tried distro hopping or changing your DE (desktop environment)? I used to have Arch Linux + KDE Plasma which froze or became unusable after a ~week of uptime; switching to Arch Linux+i3wm (changing the DE) fixed that. I'm on Arch Linux with i3wm now; it all pretty much works fine, but I do sorta want to switch to Lubuntu+i3wm or Ubuntu+i3wm.

>>106822386
Forgot to say - https://get.activated.win is a nice and simple script: 6,306-byte text file with 138 lines of code.

>>106822458
im worried that enshitification will have rendered all big tech companies incapable of putting out anything good for the foreseeable future and this might be the very last usable windows OS

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Should I disable it? I'd like to run an unsigned app. Win11 is not allowing me to run all the good shit (cracked apps).

>>106813837
I'm. Migrating someone from windows 7 to 11 by fully replacing their machine with one I own with 11 ltsc on it
He uses mifrosoft word probably 2013-2016 for like 1 really long document and I have to pick a office install for this computer
I'm going with ltsc so he doesn't have to deal with feature updates and I'm considering ms office 2024 for the same reason
Is that the right way to go about it I don't think he needs any 365 features

>>106822569
can't you allow it on defender even as admin? I'm not so sure how it works since it's still a relatively new feature.

You can disable it if you absolutely trust that app, but as the warning says, it can't be re enabled again

>>106822458
The thing is when 10 came out everyone said it was dogshit because it was and now that it's been patched everyone says it's le good
Same thing happened with vista those of us on the ground floor hated it and people that got it with sp1 and when hardware manufacturers supported it properly said it was good
So windows 12 will come out and everyone will say it sucks donkey balls and then come around 5 years later and say it was good

>>106822569
yup. i disabled all of that, all the anti-tampering etc. just know what you're downloading and you're golden.

>>106822598
If his needs for word processing are minimal, you can just install the same office suite, but yeah, office 2024 should be fine

just got my 25H2 IoT LTSC iso ready

time to reformat, feels good man

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>>106822641
based

People saying windows 7 was good dont know all the telemetry was added even before windows 10. The last good OS from microsoft was windows XP

>>106822656
Actually, it was 2000

>>106822495
>Have you tried distro hopping or changing your DE (desktop environment)? I used to have Arch Linux + KDE Plasma which froze or became unusable after a ~week of uptime; switching to Arch Linux+i3wm (changing the DE) fixed that. I'm on Arch Linux with i3wm now; it all pretty much works fine, but I do sorta want to switch to Lubuntu+i3wm or Ubuntu+i3wm
I am looking at lubuntu, but is there anything missing, like the 'core' stuff? I am also seeing that in recent years lubuntu has worsened somewhat. I am currently lookint at xfce or debian (or debian with xfce).

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how the fuck are we going to make local accounts now?

>>106823216
>>106822178

>>106822609
>can't you allow it on defender even as admin? I'm not so sure how it works since it's still a relatively new feature.
No. You can't disable it temporarily or on per-app basis.
And if you disable it, you gotta reinstall windows.
MS Is a bunch of spiteful bitches.
>>106822628
>yup. i disabled all of that, all the anti-tampering etc. just know what you're downloading and you're golden.
Yeah, seems like a PITA to deal with long-term.

>>106823292
>And if you disable it, you gotta reinstall windows.

you can disable it with no problem, what it means is that you need to reinstall Windows IF you want to reenable Smart App Control, but ofc you don't

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>>106771034
What’s this guy talking about?

>>106819136
[salivation intensifies]

>>106823475
probably a schizo from /cyb/

>>106823475
but for real, it's known for years that Windows has counters and telemetry for interactions that you make like clicking the start button, the taskbar, opening explorer, shit like that, however, its mere existence is not necessarily evil since it's mostly used for UX data or whatever. And I say it's not necessarily evil because Linux DEs like Plasma let you opt in for similar kinds of telemetry to help them improve their UI

The real question is whether that telemetry is tied to your personal data instead of anonymized. In theory, if you set your privacy settings right, then that data will be anonymized or not sent at all, specially if you use the group policy that stops any diagnostics data, since it's specifically for enterprises.

If that doesn't give you piece of mind, then nothing will.

I am trying to up grade to enterprise and powershell is giving me an error trying to open the file. Any idea what is going on?

>>106824457
Run the irm command in an admin powershell. If it doesn't work, just download the script directly from its github and disable Defender before unzipping and running it.

>>106824465
I am using the method listed here: https://pastebin.com/rHcgvYS7 . And I was using Admin.

>>106824465
>>106824537
>>106824457
Nevermind, I skipped one extraction.

where Sophie?

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>>106823868
>>106824017
short version: click all of the folders inside the red outline and tell me you trust microsoft with that much PII, whether the data itself is anonymized or not. deleting does nothing, everything repopulates, and looking up anything only brings up forensic related articles, grim

Windows 10 memories from ~2018: I jail-broke Cortana so I could get her to say anything. That was a somewhat meaningful experience to me, "Microsoft Cortana": before and after. (In the shitty 2020s "Halo" TV series, the Cortana character looked cuter or more beautiful in the first season than the second; in the second season she is more ugly and I guess has a different actress. I thought of even more reasons why I dislike that "Halo" series today.)

>>106822701
>I am looking at lubuntu, but is there anything missing, like the 'core' stuff?
I used Lubuntu for a year or two and I don't think I ever felt like stuff was missing. Problems were fixable if I came across them. (Slax Linux or Gentoo are probably more minimalist than Lubuntu; I quite dislike compiling or building from source, so Gentoo sounds like something of a nightmare to me. Gentoo does have binary packages nowadays though.)

>I am also seeing that in recent years lubuntu has worsened somewhat.
Tell me how if you feel like it. In my experience, it got better. I used older versions of Lubuntu years ago, then later switched to significantly newer versions; it all seemed to have become better.

>I am currently lookint at xfce or debian (or debian with xfce).
xfce was used in Lubuntu I think. Debian stable is probably a solid choice (though I dislike their liveboot thing which only installs the OS and doesn't let you test it).

>>106820231
>you see they're "patching" the "workarounds" that they started providing because their enterprise customers asked for it
If there's anything MS cares about its enterprise customers. These "workarounds" aren't going anywhere.

>>106822641
>25H2 IoT LTSC
What's the opposite of based? Onions?
Literally just use GAC at this point lol it hasn't even been out for a month

are there any mirrors to monkrus?
site seems to be down for me
or my ip range is blocked

>>106813837
>IoT LTSC 2022
why would I use this instead of ltsc 2021? does it offer anything aside of 1 year extra support?

>mfw reinstalling existing, legit win10 license for a bootleg win10 version

>>106825554
Certain outlier programs that want 22H2 will work properly on IoT LTSC 2021 if you install that package.

>>106825566
ah, alright, thanks

>w11 changed my settings twice already in like a month despite a fair attempt at debloating
jfc
maybe I should try linux

>>106825609
no it didnt

>>106825609
Which ones?

I have these problems on W10.
>after a displayport monitor wakes up, "taskbar icons duplicated on all taskbars" automatically turns itself off
>125% screen scaling makes text blurry, if not using manual scaling and setting it to 125%

Does anyone know if upgrading to W11 will fix these 2?

>>106822458
>>>windows 8: shit
>windows 8.1: good
>windows 10: shit
>windows 11: good
oops sorry to ruin the pattern your twitter friends told you about sweetie!

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why is the new context menu so fucking big?

>>106823216
not even apple is this gay

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>>106823216
>11

>>106825263
I realized that I need windows 10 ltsc equivalent of linux and debian is probably best choice for that.

>>106826635
>LTSC
Any RHEL derivative
>10y support
>no supported in place upgrade between versions

>>106813837
I want to install Windows on a USB drive (SATA adapter and SSD). Which ISO supports it?

>>106826963
They all should? I've only ever done it with LTSC Enterprise, but you use Rufus to make the portable installation "Windows To Go"

>>106826963
Any USB storage device can do it, though you'll need to use Rufus to install it via Windows To Go as Windows itself had dropped that feature officially years and years ago.

>>106826980
I think they removed Windows to Go around 2019

>>106823216
>how the fuck are we going to make local accounts now?
unless you NEED 11 you really ought to set up w10 iot ltsc or give linux a shot
it's not worth anyone's time to fight with win11 when in 3 months you might find all your files uploaded to train ai slop and in 6 months you suddenly cannot log in at all without microdick account or whatever
at the very least: make sure to keep a working backup so you can shut off the internets and restore a semi-recent version rather than be locked out of your own machine

>"hmmm the current setup is really crusty, I should probably just start over"
>start over
>"hmmmm sure seems like I have no idea what I'm even missing"
sigh

>>106823216
When I see something like this it's obviously focused on making local accounts within Home or Pro.

>>106827412
>it's obviously focused on making local accounts within Home or Pro
You shouldn't need to be a l33t h4x0r just to keep your own files on your own computer

>>106827427
Do you think I care how normies have to deal with Windows

Is there a worthwhile mini SAS HBA card for WIndows? I'm not sure if my PERC H310 is actually working out (although I'll also admit I could be causing my own issues by using a storage pooling system that just sucks - I think you know what I mean) so I'm starting to consider some other way to run my SAS storage server.

>>106813837
Man, I'm trying to use Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (Domain joined into a local account) and it's really pissing me off that unless I choose a EEA region in OOBE that I can't turn off bing search in start menu or the recommended section with group policy editor. Microsoft is really doing their best to annoy their own users, I don't know if it's even working, does anyone even use microsoft services like onedrive/edge/bing/365/copilot/xbox that they're desperately trying to goad people into or is everyone just still using gdrive/chrome/google/copilot/steam and they're only enshittifying their system for no reason

Forced into installing win11 because of TCP BBR support

>>106828225
>does anyone even use microsoft services like onedrive/edge/bing/365/copilot/xbox that they're desperately trying to goad people into
better than you'd think

https://www.theverge.com/news/793579/microsoft-windows-11-local-account-bypass-workaround-changes Bros

>>106826980
>>106826988
Thanks, it all worked safe and sound.

>>106829438
>>106822178

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>Now quickly go into that DVD drive and run setup.exe, and continue until you reach the final confirmation screen. (Don't delay at this step, otherwise it won't show an option to keep files and apps)
How quickly are you talking? What if I'm not quick enough, will it delete everything?

>>106829753
yes it will

>>106824984
this folder does not exist on my system

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thanks, debloat-chan

I'm using W11 LTSC IoT but I'm thinking of going back to W10 LTSC IoT honestly.

>>106830463
It's a no brainer if your hardware allows it.

if i install windows 10 LTSC will it hold up the install for a fucking hour and a half to " install updates" it could just as easily install after first boot like windows 11 does on all versions?

>>106830728
why do people ever answer basic yes or no questions?

>>106830728
takes just a few minutes desu

>>106830876
just got done installing it and setting things up other than needing a network driver to start everything seems to work thankfully i have vntoy and several isos i can download things from on boot

>>106825980
because its designed for tablets, despite tablets being completely dead. microsoft hasnt got the memo yet though