What can cause Windows to have about 30 seconds of "black screen, but monitor on" before the login screen is visible? I've seen it happen on a few systems

In the case of my own, it happens with the exception of
- rebooting after a BSOD
- the next boot after a (big?) update
- As I've recently discovered, rebooting to the UEFI

>>106855910
Actually, on further poking, that last one only happens if getting to the UEFI through

shutdown /r /fw /t 0

>>106855834
sex with shamiko
nakaԁashi with shamiko
impregnation with shamiko
marriage with shamiko

>>106855953
>UEFI
ngmi

>>106856401
Elaborate

>>106855834
>not using 25H2 IoT LTSC customized with NTLite
do you even take your hobby seriously?

alright guys i'm gonna be honest and make a reddit tier question. I really don't wanna start over installing another OS not even w10 IoT right now. If I keep using my w10 pro without any security updates only to play vidya on steam and shitpost on 4chan. can I be raped by a pajeet only because my current OS is connected to the internet or everything should be fine as long as you don't download any malware? I heard some anons still use w7 to this day that's why I'm asking

>>106857533
unless some exploit has been found and hackers are waiting, or will be found in the future, you MIGHT be at risk. otherwise you'll be fine mate. I have no intention of moving from w10 where I've gutted it, no updates or defender etc. just know what you're downloading and you'll gold.

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What is with _tprintf in all the windows docs? Isn't this not recommended?

How likely is it that microsoft will force local account installs to create ms accounts in the future through updates? Surely there are scenarios airgapped systems can't even work with ms accounts?

>>106858280
Highly likely since they're pushing against local accounts under the bad faith argument of security. I could however, see the EU telling to require updates regardless. The United fuckistan of America is absolutely fucked if MS decides that route.

>>106858280
i doubt they will force ms accounts for iot ones

>>106857533
if u are a schizo tier type, check how to set up applocker

can you remove a windows key from a system without windows being installed?
I installed Linux on this machine and forgot to remove the key with CMD but want to install windows on my new build and still use my old windows key.

>>106858913
If you have a Microsoft account, that opens a way to do so that usually goes pretty smoothly

>>106858947
>If you have a Microsoft account
nope

Only difference between 24h2 and 25h2 I've noticed so far is the inclusion of the 'edit' cli tool. But I assume that will eventually be backported.

Strangely the version number of edit is one patch beyond what is in its github repo.

>>106859139
Speak of the devil
https://github.com/microsoft/edit/issues/661

opinions on atlasos?
> Optimized Windows.
Designed for enthusiasts.

AtlasOS is creating a "kinder" Windows experience. Reducing bloatware and optimizing performance for enthusiasts, gamers, and privacy-conscious individuals.

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>inetpub

>>106859180
It's just what gamebooster was in 2009, inevitably some tranny will make a little freeware program that does all the performance tweaks that AtlasOS claims to include without any of the gay branding.

>>106859646
WinUtil already exists, unfortunately Chris is not trans

Is 4TB of writes per year a lot for a system drive? Any way I could reduce them?

>>106855834
This removes the bloatware and makes Windows 11 usable.

https://atlasos.net/

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>>106859912
Honest discussion question: What is the point of this besides adding more points of failure to Windows? It's not like they can make any real meaningful changes to the OS.

If you're downloading something like this I presume you're already more tech savy than the average person; why are you not just downloading a Linux distro, and possibly dual booting into an LTSC install if you need a native windows desktop for a game, or a specific program for work?

I as well, personally, have less trust in the security of the maintainers for something like this, versus a highly audited OS like Fedora, or Arch.

>>106859741
What are you using your machine for? It's all relative if 4TB is a lot, and it matters less depending on the size of the drive, and it's flash type.

Are you compiling on the drive? Is your browser on that drive? Video editing? Those do a lot of writing.

Do you have a page file on that drive, and does your system have low memory storage amount? You might be using your swap a lot.

Who updating win10 pro to iot?
I tried the guide above, didn't seem to work for me. Used this github script instead.
https://github.com/Bladez1992/LTSConvert

>>106860723
Linux is an illusion. With Arch, you're forced to update 10s of packages every week if you want to install something new. It's way bigger security risk than any windows and annoying as hell.
eg. I'm regretting that I binned my iot W11.

>>106860938
The massgrave guide worked perfectly for me even though I took my sweet time on the setup because it decided to look for updates

>>106857428
>NTLite
You do realise that NTLite just uses free MS tools

>>106857853
>Isn't this not recommended?
Only fairly recently with the _s variants

>>106858280
>How likely is it that microsoft will force local account installs to create ms accounts in the future through updates?
Zilch

>>106859180
May as well be malware. Remember ameliorated?

>>106860961
Did you download the iso and stuff? That is what the script seemed to do and also worked fine!

>>106861047
Yep.
>download LTSC iso with the same language as my install (it's fine if it's not IoT) and mount it
>run that registry command
>run setup
>make sure it says it's going to keep all files and apps
>wait a fuckton of time
And then you run massgrave again to re-activate Windows because it will need another licence.
Only weird thing I noticed is how it enabled all the things I had disabled on startup, but that's not really an issue

this
https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/
still works to do an offline installation, right?
or is there a better method?

>>106861195
It's an unattend file maker. It just tells the installer what to do no matter if it's connected to the internet or not.

>>106861005
yes, that's a good thing

I am downloading w11 ltsc. So while I am wating, do I have to do anything to use local acount? I used to do the "Unplug and tell setup to install anyway" method.

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>>106855834
olev shamigo

>>106861452
Make the USB with Rufus, install it without being connected to the net at first, usual stuff.
You could try adding the ei.cfg file to the USB afterwards for peace of mind? The massgrave blog says what to add to the file.

>>106861465
> install it without being connected to the net at first, usual stuff.

Good to see that this method still work. I read that news about microsoft being a dick again so I wasn't so sure.

>>106861475
That won't effect Enterprise or Education editions

>>106861252
And yet they want to charge $40 for some click button GUI

I thought the bypassnro approach didn't work anymore on 25H2? But I was able to us it just fine if I was unplugged from Internet first

Easiest way to migrate data from a windows 10 pro install to a windows 11 install on a new PC? Would the old backup and restore (windows 7) tool work?

>>106861558
You should always be disconnected from the internet before you install

>>106861558
they haven't done any changes in the main channel, the patches are only in preview builds

I'm not looking to get off of Windows 10 for a while. I just activated ESU through tforge and I assume that'll give me a few more years, right?

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Anyone else had an issue with downloading Win 10 IoT enterprise LTSC from massgrave? I get to about half way through and then the download stops with the error "could not be saved because the source file could not be read".

I read on the github for their activation scripts that some ISPs/DNS block access to their domains, and to have DNS over HTTPS, but it's already enabled for me in Firefox. Following the link provided in the Cloudflare documentation to check if it's configured properly, reports it as being set up properly. Would setting it up within my Windows make a difference?

I believe I ran into the same issue a while back when I wanted to do a clean reinstall of Win 10, so I never got around to doing it.

>>106862254
You get three more years of updates if you activate the ESU licenses, yes.

I can't get fullscreen exclusive mode to work in W11 with madVR unless I close explorer.exe, is there another workaround for this? I need it for some features to work properly

>>106862730
Try downloading it through os(dot)click instead.

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>>106862829
It eventually worked after downloading again from the same source after three tries, but I'm still curious why it failed the first two. Back then I assumed it was because the site was down or something to do with their end.

>>106862843
I've seen a couple anons have issues with downloading from massgrave's repo while others download from it totally fine. Could've just tried at a bad time.

My Windows and Office is still activated by KMS_VL_ALL. Is there a reason to switch to Massgrave?

>>106862863
If it's activated and working fine then no there's no real need. The difference between that offline fake KMS activation and Ohook or TSforge is that they don't need to put a .dll file into system32 which can make Defender mad, they're much more quiet then that and don't actually change anything.

>>106862730
I downloaded it just fine like 2 days ago when I did the whole thing but first I got reminded that Firefox is ass for downloading things as it loves to just drop the connection at random. Moved to Edge and got it with no problem.

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>>106862873
>If it's activated and working fine then no there's no real need.
Sounds good then, thank you anon.
>they don't need to put a .dll file into system32 which can make Defender mad
>they're much more quiet then that and don't actually change anything.
I see, in that case, if I ever reinstall Windows I should switch to Massgrave.

>>106863039
Yeah it's what I did. Changed over to MAS's methods after using KMS_VL_ALL for a good while for Office and Windows activation.
Not to say it's bad though because it still works fine, just less "clean."

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>>106861460
That's a cute GIF. :3

>>106855834
Sex with Shamiko

>>106861036
qrd on ameliorated?

>>106861452
If you're doing a vanilla install with iot ltsc, then select domain account but do not set password. If you set a password during install windows will require you to set up those stupid security questions. Rather, when you get to the desktop, hit ctrl+alt+del select change password to set your password without security questions.

>>106863900
Yeah I always don't set a password until I've set my install up how I like it

Should I use bulk crap uninstaller or bleachbit from the useful programs pastebin?

>>106864394
BCUninstaller is for uninstalling programs and a vast majority of the cruft they may leave behind that Windows' own installer doesn't bother with. Bleachbit is like CCleaner if it wasn't bloatware.

>>106864394
Neither, delete programs from settings, and if you are tech savvy enough delete leftover icons on desktop, start menu, and loose files left in file explorer's popular locations like Documents/Pictures/Music/Videos/ProgramData/Program Files/Program Files (32Bit)/Users-AppData. And if you are super autistic you can open registry editor select find and search the name of the program you installed to delete all the entries. But realistically most of these range from a few KB to a few MB at best and you don't need to clean them up at all. I would never trust a third party program that works in a way where it just searches for everything containing specific keywords and deletes it automatically to be safe to use. Windows for example comes with mozilla or adobe registry entries and file explorer folders/files out of the box and you would delete those too by using a third party program to delete firefox or adobe reader or something. Keep in mind the OP is written by low IQ tinfoil hat schizoids, you really shouldn't be using it as a resource. You would learn more just by using official microsoft docs and sticking to built-in tools to take care of your pc maintenance.

>>106864394
Revo Uninstaller

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>>106855834
does TSForge work without reinstalling? got an old laptop with official W10 home

>>106865089
TSforge as an activation stays around until a new feature pack is installed or you re-install your system. And if this Home install isn't activated you can activate it with TSforge, yes.

>>106865153
it's an OEM activation done many years ago (not my pc, it's my dad's). sorry for stupid questions, usually I just reinstall anyway but would rather skip it this time

>>106865252
You could always just change the edition away from Home to Enterprise or Education, then just activate with TSforge (or better yet HWID) after that.

>>106855834
does win 11 ltsc really not have a built-in photo viewer? wtf

>>106865577
okay after wasting 15 minutes reading a bunch of retarded github tranny nonsense telling me to download 50 different things and run a bunch of moronic trannyscripts, the solution is very simple.

powershell command: wsreset -i

(had to run it twice, for some reason it didn't do anything the first time)

this invokes the download of the windows store. then i just searched for windows photo and downloaded/installed it in a single click.

It's over huh
I'm on windows 10 education
I don't want to reinstall
Why did they tell me to install education instead of ltsc back in 2022
it's ooooooooooover

anyone know if win10 LTSC will work with javelin anticheat?

>>106866520
Only thing what doesn't work on W10 iot LTSC is ironically xbox app because MS wants people to use W11. If you are unsure please read the system requirements for BF6, or spend few minutes to go through the steam discussions. People would complain if it didn't work.

jokes on microsoft i'm already on w11 because amd drivers are so dogshit on w10

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>>106855834
Hi guys, I just did
>Upgrade Windows 10 Home, Pro, etc editions to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 while keeping files and apps
Thanks to a kind anon here for telling me about it.
Now I'm doing
>How to Activate Windows / Office / Extended Updates (ESU)?
But it seems like Extended Updates sounds good if I want... updates for an extended time. So should I go with TSforge - Windows / Office / ESU, or HWID - Windows?

>>106866796
chat completion software says
>Since you've already upgraded to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021, you don't actually need Extended Security Updates (ESU) to keep getting security patches and updates—Microsoft provides official support for this edition all the way until January 13, 2032. That's over six years from now, covering the full lifecycle without any extra steps for extended updates beyond the standard end-of-support for consumer Windows 10 editions (which hits on October 14, 2025). ESU is mainly for folks sticking with non-LTSC versions of Windows 10 who want 1–3 years of paid security updates post-EoL
Is that true?

dreaming of the day when Microsoft finally adds a proper network manager with profiles for NICs

i tried using the massgrave link to dl iot win 10 that lasts until 2032 but the download didnt work

>>106865280
thanks, I did just the Forge and it seems to be working on the Home edition. will still have to bite the bullet and reinstall it some time next year, the shit is unusable (but of course dad thinks it's totally fine to wait two minutes for youtube to load)

>>106861023
Thank you sweetie.

>>106863078
You're a cute gif

>>106866908
>I tried using the massgrave link to dl iot win 10 that lasts until 2032 but the download didn't work
You can download the iso from the following magnet link:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0d8165158c22430ebb5c0afced1c37833877192a&dn=en-us_windows_10_iot_enterprise_ltsc_2021_x64_dvd_257ad90f.iso

Or you can search for

en-us_windows_10_iot_enterprise_ltsc_2021_x64_dvd_257ad90f.iso

on the internet. You can download the ISO from any source, but remember to check the SHA-256 hash of the downloaded file to verify its authenticity.

Dad's computer has eset antivirus and I cannot uninstall it. I looked online but apparently I need to install their antivirus uninstaller and then do some convoluted bullshit. Is there any other way to get rid of this shit without installing even more shitware?

>>106867200
>Is there any other way to get rid of this shit without installing even more shitware?
Maybe you should try portable versions of Bulk Crap Uninstaller or Revo Uninstaller.

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Is this true /fwt/? Should I leave game bar installed on my gayming pc? W11 Enterprise.

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I love Windows!

>>106867342
No, what is this. Goybar is bloat.

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>>106867474
>I love Microshaft Winblows!

>>106866835
>Is that true?
Yes

ran tsforge
how do i check if it is activated or not and what should i expect to read