File: __hatsune_miku_and_kasane(...).jpg (392 KB, 4096x1275)

392 KB JPG

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>>106860153
I took the battery out for ten minutes and the m.2, it's still showing me a green led for "boot" I've only been at this three hours so I'm not mad yet but definitely out of ideas.

>>106860249
>>106860242

File: 1744142542297136.jpg (115 KB, 987x1006)

115 KB JPG

This all collapses next year

File: 1736969590863298.png (2.67 MB, 1922x1255)

2.67 MB PNG

lol
good one gigabyte

>>106860372
That will be $2000+ tip.

File: 1759756303582146.mp4 (776 KB, 600x450)

776 KB MP4

[Good News] Wuthering Waves stopped crashing on Nvidia

[Bad News] Wuthering Waves now stutters on Nvidia

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1nz6jkw/rtx_5070_ti_severely_underperforming_in_wuwa_low/

>>106860451
>Playing phone slop on your computer
You deserve this

>>106860458
Games are only bad because of phones and consoles. You third world shitters are holding us all back. We could be living in VR dive world right now if it wasn't for you.

What SSD would you get for a 24/7 system

>>106860491
anything samsung or sk hynix because thats what powers servers 24/7

>>106860266
>>106860294
Okay, I re seated the CPU, swapped out to the other stick of ram from A2 to B2, still no BIOS. Tried no HDMI, still getting green LED for boot. Unplugging the HDMI gave me a white led for VGA. Both mobo cables checked at psu and on the board. Im not the only person with this problem but nobody updates their fucking posts on forums : /

>>106860565
Fuuuuck.
Is your mobo really DOA?
Flashing the UEFI is the last chance.

AM5 can take a long time to post 1st time
like really really really long

5080 at MSRP worth it if I don't care about AI? I don't think the extra VRAM from the supers would help me very much. I've got a 5070ti right now also at MSRP so it would be 250 more to swap them. Just not sure it's even worth it, does anyone have a 5080, can you notice a difference?

>>106860602
I'm trying flashback again, if it doesn't work I am putting my 5800X3D back in and driving an hour back to microcenter tomorrow. I'll keep you posted and thanks for all the help anon. Seems AM5 might be shit all around.

File: 1753033673364.png (18 KB, 646x164)

18 KB PNG

>>106860565
You need to update the BIOS, that B650 board probably doesn't know how to work with Zen 5 CPUs.
Scan the QR Code for more info, kek.
https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b650-e-wifi/helpdesk_manual?model2Name=TUF-GAMING-B650-E-WIFI

>>106860636
There is zero point unless for some reason you must have the FE or there is some anime SKU you desperately want

File: 1756858095879.jpg (176 KB, 842x784)

176 KB JPG

>>106860674
There are instructions for the Flashback procedure in the manual.

File: amd next gen.png (294 KB, 880x660)

294 KB PNG

>Another thread started by nico troon trying to deny getting rug-pulled by the Gay-Deon division.

>>106860775
Maybe you should wait™ and see how UDNA/RDNA5 turns out first.

So what ? Do i just give in and update to 11 ? I hate 11 and all my niggas hate 11.
Windows 10 held my hand and called be a good boy but the kike hissing is starting to pierce through me, telling me me that windows 10 is unsafe and can't protect me from Vladimir, Zhang and Pajeet.

>>106860823
Move to Linux, Get Android, Buy Apple, or stop using computers in general.

>>106860708
>>106860728
I've done the flashback twice on the most recent driver, cleared cmos twice. Going to leave it running for an hour just to see if it's just taking forever to memory train. I used to freak out about this stuff but I halfway expected it to happen. If it doesn't post after an hour, I'm going to get a refund. Still, I want to know if it's my board or CPU. I'm leaning towards board.

>>106860902
what ram is it

>>106860902
Try booting with only 1 memory module in A2. GL.

can you recommend a cheap build that can allow my senior relative to play poe2 on low at 1080p at at least 25-30 fps? just need the tower preferably without all the RGB bullshit.

>>106861053
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BwbBkf
Check prices for a Ryzen 5600/X and a compatible board too.
Used video card might give you some savings.
Recommended GPU for the game
>Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060, Intel® Arc™ A770, or ATI Radeon™ RX 5600XT

File: 1750491508922902.jpg (311 KB, 731x707)

311 KB JPG

9060 XT 16 GB for $400 or 5060 ti 16 GB for $520?

>>106861098
If you're asking, you probably don't need the GeForce card.
Get the 9060 XT 16GB.

It's crazy that GPUs are hitting 3ghz now. Think how many Cuda cores are touching them compared to CPU cores.

does anybody know where I can download more ram for free?

What happens if you run out of vram while playing a game? Does it just crash? Is it like memory where the use builds over time and you have to restart the game to get it back down to normal levels?

File: G14fqAoWMAA7PJq.jpg (88 KB, 550x418)

88 KB JPG

i just installed a 9800x3d, had an am4 before so i had to replace the ram and mobo as well, do i need to do anything to the bios to get the best performance?

Is 60 fps still fine if I decide to get a 4k monitor?

>>106860949
G skill flare x5 6000 cl 30
>>106861027
Did that already :(

>>106861150
Yes, but if you have to ask here you aren't ready for that knowledge.
Just enable EXPO and enjoy your life.

>>106860188
ChatGPT says that I can make my own workstation based on thread ripper and an A300 nvidea GPU. The motherboard I’m looking at can old a terabyte of RAM.

ChatGPT admits that it’s a full retard move, but says that if I put it on a payment plan and whore my computer out as a cloud based workstation, I can break even on the build after a couple of years assuming it doesn’t die. Budget would be 10-12 grand


My question is how retarded is this on a scale of “open borders for Israel” verses “they are our greatest ally.”

I want to build my own jailbroke LLM that I can train to help me write explicit content.

I don't feel like it's worth a thread, but this video, from here, should be required viewing for people wanting to know why 5090s catch fire and x3d cpu are scorching.

Or, if you prefer, why some guy on 4chan thinks they are.

https://youtu.be/BffeaLbKHkw?t=847

>>106861182
>explicit content
Rocinante-12B-v1.1-f16 is pretty willing to engage in racist fantasies, it seems. I need more testing, though. You did mean racism, right anon...

>>106861206
Anon… no. I love all humans. Hate has no place in my heart. Please don’t imply I’m a racist. God made all humans with the spark of the divine. I’ve tried to explain this to LLMs but they insist jews are humans. I’m tried anon…

Also, I would like being able to have an LLM give me feedback on general sex scenes and stuff like that, or role play as a butt naked fox girl trying to flee unsuccessfully from a pack of niggers.


Anyway… any advice is welcome. I built my own computer twice… but that was 2010 and 2014… so yeah.

>>106861153
Perfectly fine, most don't expect to get more than that at 4k unless you have a super computer.

>>106861255
>God made all humans with the spark of the divine.
Racism isn't anti-human :^)

>>106860352
God, if only.

>>106861267
Why can't games just run in dual mode or something? If you watch the 4K 2024 Olympic Games, most of the motion is basically like 480p at best, but where the still/slow bits are sharp.

I have a Ryzen R7-1800X sitting in an Asus X370 motherboard (ROG hero crosshair something, forget the exact model, but top tier for the time), and 32GB of Samsung die 3200MHz CL14 memory because Ryzen used to be really picky with RAM. I was looking to upgrade from my AMD RX590 8GB GPU to an RX 9070XT and figured I should also do my CPU. I can get a brand new R7-5800XT for $150. Is this combo enough for modern day gaming?

>>106861255
Is making an unrestricted LLM realistic anyway? Why can’t I just pay a service to let me use one someone has already built. I bought heroin today and paid for sex with a trafficked whore, but god forbid I have fun on my fucking computer. Why are things always so fucking gay.

>>106861331
>Why are things always so fucking gay.
You would have to go back to 1920 and stop the simps from giving women voting rights. And then somehow stop the simps from 1921 from doing it. And 1922, 23, 24...
Yeah there was nothing we could have done it was inevitable.

>>106860249
>>106860565
>>106860602
I guess it's dead Jim. Let it sit for an hour and nothing happened.

>>106861349
>Yeah there was nothing we could have done it was inevitable.
It wasn't, and it's not.

Why would it be? Before existed. So, it's possible.

It's like saying "we can't run marathons, because we're overweight". So lose weight.

>>106861384
I guess I'll ask you guys too, do you think I should just go back to my old system that works or try again on Monday when I can drive down to micro center? It's an hour each way, I'd almost rather have my money back if AM5 stuff is that unreliable.

File: Image 7.jpg (1.65 MB, 1920x1200)

1.65 MB JPG

>>106860188
is it the best time to dip NVDA
>inb4 biz

no its still related to /g/

>>106861319
i would say so, i never felt restricted by the 5800X but i guess it depends on what games you're playing
(you're never gonna get rid of UE5 traversal stutter or whatever no matter how good your CPU is)
for $150 i would go for it

>>106861411
>get half of the worlds population to give up rights they have had for over 100 years
Sure buddy, and tomorrow I'm going to jump in my time machine and have sex with 1991 Jennifer Connelly.

>>106861421
Sounds like you got really unlucky, plenty of people have no problems with AM5. Maybe sleep on it for a day and see how you feel then.

>>106861319
Yeah, just do a new build.

>>106861319
>5800
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/rtx-5070-5070ti-with-ryzen-7-5800x-bottleneck.3874421/

Sounds like no worries.

fwiw, think deeply about if you want to do ai. The 9070 is the best amd has ever done re ai, but uh... basically if you want to do ai, you should do nvidia.

I hate nvidia personally and will never buy their gpu, because I think their qc is crap, but the software is written for nvidia, especially cuda.

Things will likely change within 6-12 months. amd is working hard on this, and so is intel.

>>106861440
Hard things <> Impossible things

>>106860491
Samsung 990 pro for m.2 nvme. If you have a proper server rack interface, Samsung PM893 is basically "the standard" choice for a rack SSD. WD red is also pretty solid for a server 2.5 inch SSD.

>>106861098
If the 5070 is msrp, get that instead. Otherwise the 5060ti
>>106861153
No, only poorfags are still below at minimum 240hz
>>106861427
If you don't own at least 10k of both intel and Nvidia you're fucking retarded

>>106861495
my portfolio is mostly VOO lol
i only buy apple and nvda

>>106861495
Celestial will get benched soon, on laptops first. People will be extrapolating.

ok, celestial will get benched around ces 2026, in January.

It will presumably only be the laptop cpus, but that will be enough to see if Celestial is a threat to nvidia.

>>106860352
what is your added value compared to any of the multi-billion $ companies in that chart?

>>106861153
human eyes can't into 30+ fps anyway.

How strict are graphics cards when it comes to needing a specific motherboard generation to use? Is it as bad as am4/5 where you need an am5 board to use an x3d chip? Or in 5 years when the 7000 series cards are coming out should I be able to still use one on my current am5 board or will I be forced to upgrade to the am6 or whatever is out at the time as well?

This new AMD gpu innovation seems either like a jewish marketing trick which ends up being a 20-30% improvement in ray tracing, OR it looks like they EoL yet another generation right after it releases, can't decide which one is more likely to be true

>>106861615
>Is it as bad as am4/5 where you need an am5 board to use an x3d chip?
but am4 has x3d chips?
and gpus are backward compatible, you still can use the current pcie5 cards on pcie3 mobos

>>106861674
Oh guess I'm retarded, thought you needed an am5 board to use the 7800x3d.

>>106861680
cpus are platform specific, am4 has 5700/5800x3d while am5 has the 7000/9000 x3d chips

>>106861680
fuck me the niggers are low IQ in this thread
a 7800X3D does not even have the pins to fit in an AM4 board

>>106861615
The only compatibility issues you'll face with newer cards is if you're stuck on a 4th gen or older intel system that can't initialize the GPU because it doesn't have uefi boot
Otherwise any GPU can fit in any motherboard regardless of pcie generation since they're designed to be interoperable

File: Screenshot_20251011_21193(...).jpg (1.28 MB, 2400x1080)

1.28 MB JPG

Reminder that battlefield 6 nvidia has a small advantage right now only because AMD has not finished working on the final optimized driver for it. The one that came out today giving support is only a preview. I expect with the full driver things will flip even since radeon is usually faster in these types of games à la call of duty.

>>106861699
he'd find out, eventually :^)

>>106861897
I can't imagine playing that trash. You have to install tpm and other garbage.

hahahahah no kids.

>>106861897
maybe AMD should stop pretending like they're still bankrupt and hire more driver developers

File: 1749100633462.png (256 KB, 1032x814)

256 KB PNG

>>106861907
Slightly slower releases is preferable to AI coded slop that crashes doebeit

File: 1748923221645003.png (289 KB, 498x721)

289 KB PNG

>>106861897
how can they not have a day 1 driver ready for smol indie game BATTLEFIELD
you AMDrones just love shit in your face

>>106861937
:^)

(laughs in racism)

they're already cheating, I can't believe you bought that trash.

all online games suck if they have non-whites playing, because they cheat.

File: Screenshot_20251011_233330.png (232 KB, 1162x972)

232 KB PNG

>>106861936
it's funny because i literally took that screenshot
NVIDIA having bad drivers isn't an excuse for AMD

File: Screenshot_20251011_21340(...).jpg (109 KB, 1916x353)

109 KB JPG

>>106861937
>Nvidapowerup
Please post reliable sources only

File: image-74.png (493 KB, 1024x1024)

493 KB PNG

How thick is the Sapphire Nitro+ 9070 XT? Will it block the 2nd PCIe slot by any chance? My motherboard is an Asus Prime X570-P and the 2nd slot is being used for an m2->PCIe adapter for my 3rd NVMe drive.

File: 20251010_225136-stitch.jpg (3.7 MB, 3375x3000)

3.7 MB JPG

I've put some effort in cable management.

File: 1743508838417598.png (672 KB, 856x631)

672 KB PNG

>>106860352
whatever helps you cope at night yuropoor

If I'm running win 11 LTSC do I need to use process lasso to move the games over to the right cores?

File: chud ports.jpg (187 KB, 768x1024)

187 KB JPG

>>106862009
me too anon, me too

File: 1740081606928399.png (113 KB, 962x757)

113 KB PNG

>>106862004
it's a triple slot card, so it would block the third slot where your second pcie slot is

>>106862058
Well shit. That would mean I have to use an m2->SATA adapter. But then again, not sure it's a good idea to use an adapter for a WD_BLACK NVMe drive.

>>106861146
>download more ram for free?
No.

>>106861992
>AMDUnboxed
lmao go get your kid another 5080 while you game on a 5090

>>106861981
I remember when game companies had to patch their games instead of the video card makers.

>>106861147
cinematic 5 fps
t. bought a 512MB card instead of the 1GB model

How many 5090's should I order forr sli?

>>106862151
fml, can't believe I have to pay 2k to get a card with more than 16gb vram. How have the gpu ceo's not been mobbed and hung in the streets?

>>106862159
16gb is fine for playing games. I haven't run local ai, I don't know what the requirements are
the current 512MB equivalent is 8GB

>>106862175
4×H200 GPUs

>>106862175
AAA games are already using 16gb vram at 4k. In a year or two games will be unplayable unless you have a super card or 6000 series.

>>106862269
mhwilds could use 20gb+ with the high res texture pack at 1440p at launch, no either how is it now but people still recommend not installing it for 16gb cards

File: Skyrim-HD-Texture-Pack-Co(...).jpg (1.32 MB, 2334x1429)

1.32 MB JPG

>>106862159
>>106862175
>>106862269
>>106862299
/hr/ Texture Packs are not a new thing so why have VRAM requirements gotten so stupid in recent years? Have developers started saving all their assets in .bmp or .tiff?

>>106861147
>restart the game to get it back down to normal levels
WAT!

>AM5 undervolting
negative CO or negative voltage offsets?
what's the difference?

>>106860352
>muh bubble will pop soon
NEEToid tranny cope
they will make sure you'll never find a job

After doing some research it seems like you dont really need a 9800x3d. I'm going for 9600x

File: IMG_6238.jpg (218 KB, 1550x1294)

218 KB JPG

WHEN THE FUCK WILL CLOSE TO $2000 MSRP 5090 CARDS RESTOCK IM NOT BUYING A FUCJING VENTUS FOR $2400!!!!!!

>>106860188
Is it a good idea to keep using my X670E Taichi motherboard with a 9950x3D and a 5090? Or should I just get a new motherboard like X870E?

>intel unfucked the core ultras just intime for holidays

Oh my God please let nobody know about this, I need them to go on sale.

Which 9070 XT model have the best cooling performance? XFX Mercury or Nitro+?

File: 1751074146979612.png (362 KB, 1737x471)

362 KB PNG

>>106862828
xfx is not that great despite their cooler size

>>106862784
Get a non-asrock board if you can help it. Their boards are still killing Ryzen 9000 chips despite them saying it's been fixed

>>106862784
>X670E Taichi
Its fine, you can even use a b650m hdv/m.2 desu.

>>106862736
Might as well drop to 7600x since gaming performance is identical.

are wd hard drives good enough to save a few dollars on when compared to seagate these days?

people used to shit on them a bit but seems like they are better now?(i don't be keeping up with this shit)

>>106863176
Check CMR vs SMR drives, check the device that you are buying is the kind of drive that you want.

>>106863176
All consumer HDDs are cost-cut trash nowadays. If it's for replaceable stuff like movies/TV you can just buy whatever is cheapest. Hope that SMART throws an error before it dies. If you actually care about the data you should RAID it (and will need CMR per >>106863190).

>>106863242
You can still buy Ironwolf, Ironwolf Pro, WD DC Series, they are prosumer and still good I think.

>>106863256
Yes the prosumer stuff is better but it still suffers from the race-to-the-bottom mentality. Not to say that the actual pro models don't; just that big corps are more likely to sue if they go under-spec. I wouldn't recommend buying enterprise drives either btw. - too many refurbished models masquerading as new. Best thing to do is buy two of the cheapest CMR drives (which are often NAS models like you said).

I tried signalrgb but installed the moment I saw they want a subscription to control my fans. Are there any alternatives?

>>106863307
Fancontrol for controlling your fans and openrgb for rgb

File: 1748519906209737.jpg (242 KB, 1280x768)

242 KB JPG

Ok I want your help guys and your opinion.

I'm building a new PC after 10 years mainly for gaming and some simple video editing.

CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
VGA - RX 9070 XT

Now what I wanted to ask is the following, I'm an old guy, and I'm playing at a 1080p monitor. I won't be getting a new monitor any time soon and from what I've been reading, that CPU+VGA combo is a complete overkill for 1080p gaming.

My question is, if I continue playing games for the next 10 years with that PC, going for the overkill at 1080p, is it gonna offer some future proofing or is that a retarded way of thinking and shopping for a new PC?
I don't want to build new PC every 5 years.

My current pc is a GTX970 paired with an i5-6500.
Pic unrelated

>>106863377
Well if you absolutely insist on keeping the rig as-is for 10 years overkill is the only way to go. It's maybe even a little weak for that but realistically the next step up is a 5090 so that hardly matters.
If you were willing to do a mid-cycle upgrade I'd suggest to drop the CPU back to a 7800X3D (assuming it's still at $340) with the intention of an EOL AM5 upgrade plus whatever card is best at the time.

File: relative-performance-game(...).png (113 KB, 560x2050)

113 KB PNG

>>106863377
>My question is, if I continue playing games for the next 10 years with that PC, going for the overkill at 1080p, is it gonna offer some future proofing or is that a retarded way of thinking and shopping for a new PC?
No, that's a pretty fair outlook if you keep the monitor/resolution constant. What I will say is that 9800X3D isn't THAT much faster than the prior-gen 7800X3D on the same socket motherboard and is not worth the premium you'd pay for it at the moment with the 7800X3D on serious discount. AM5 will be supported for at least another 2 generations (or ~4 years) until DDR6 RAM comes out so the money you'd save forgoing the fastest chip now would get you a future flagship CPU as a drop-in upgrade to extend the system's lifespan then when the core counts and CPU performance differences are greater. See also these (and picrel):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0oimg79NZ8
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/18.html
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof ($320)

Also depending on how often you upgrade GPUs, you might consider the 5070 Ti as Nvidia pays their larger driver team to support their cards for a longer period of software/game legacy updates than AMD does for their Radeon Graphics Division (I'd say if you plan to keep this card for like 6-7+ years it's a worthwhile consideration).

File: 1756295503560293.jpg (155 KB, 1080x1207)

155 KB JPG

>>106863449
>>106863453
thank you guys for the insight, I really appreciate it.
I think I'm gonna drop down a generation on the cpu as you suggested and consider a 4-5 year update on the CPU.

Thank you again for your opinion

>>106863453
3070ti/3080/6800 released 5 years ago and they can barely play modern triple a slops at 1080p

Fuck why did I buy asus? Armoury crate is complete cancer

>>106863573
disable that shit
https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1043788/

File: 1755229573564136.png (17 KB, 1658x831)

17 KB PNG

>>106863539
You probably will want a new card at around the same time. Basically I was suggesting you change your upgrade cadence from ~10 to ~5 years. That's assuming you're still into AAA stuff - if not then a 7800X3D+9070XT would probably be enough to go the distance on its own. In which case you just saved $200. Stick it in your 401k.
1000 hours in MSPaint for illustration.

File: 1752588641231027.jpg (272 KB, 1400x1021)

272 KB JPG

>>106863605
I understand, I mainly play grand strategy games from Paradox Interactive that are not so GPU heavy from what I understand.
I know I'll play the GTA6 slop when it comes out on PC but I guess the proposed setup will be fine just to be able to run it. And maybe any history-related FPS slop that may come out into the future but I don't care about it so much.

hello? WHAT is a good mouse? 4 buttons minimum

File: 1760264147430.jpg (134 KB, 1340x1000)

134 KB JPG

>>106863680
Depends

>>106863573
Never install motherboard software ever
And never cuck yourself by buying one of those boards or GPUs with LCDs that require such software to be configured

>>106863687
For gaming. I already own an mx anywhere 3s for work and it's good but the side buttons are a little uncomfortable to reach and hard to press so for my new build I want a proper "gaming" mouse. My MX lasts for an entire month with a single charge. Are modern gaming mouses as good?

>>106863680
logitech superlight 2

File: 1760264844981.jpg (18 KB, 200x200)

18 KB JPG

>>106863700
Hand size? Ergonomic or not? Grip style? Budget?

>>106863735
I have small hands (don't laugh). No ergonomic I like it raw. Fingertips grip. I am willing to spend up to 100 yurodollars but the lower the better of course

File: 2kaodqaofi1f1.jpg (38 KB, 700x775)

38 KB JPG

What are you building right now?

>>106863747
Logitech G Pro X Superlight if you have girl hands I guess

>>106863781
>PRO X SUPERLIGHT 2 SE
This costs less and it says 2 so.. Is it any good?

File: 1760265665236.png (189 KB, 451x396)

189 KB PNG

>>106863813
Check eloshapes and compare

>>106863828
k. are mouse pads a meme or should I buy one? I mean the ones big enough to also accommodate a keyboard

>>106862081
assuming you have a 4x nvme to pcie card you'd need to downgrade to a 1x adapter which do impact nvme speds

File: 1760265849668.mp4 (3.91 MB, 720x1066)

3.91 MB MP4

>>106863838
They aren't a meme. I bought a 2 dollar ali express one and a QcK XXL Heavy, and the difference is huge. Just spend a little to have a good one for 2 to 3 years.

IPS or VA for gayming?

is a Ryzen 7700 still good to get in the current month of the current year

>>106863946
Yes

File: 1760267040209.webm (451 KB, 320x320)

451 KB WEBM

>>106863942
MiniLED

>>106863955
va miniled?

>>106863561
strong early contender for most stupid comment on the board right now

>>106863959
IPS to avoid VRR flicker

>>106863959
For miniled you want VA. IPS gets increased haloing effect.

File: 1754522632485525.png (1.26 MB, 861x1157)

1.26 MB PNG

That's it, im getting me mallet!

File: 1731223068673226.jpg (525 KB, 1280x1280)

525 KB JPG

>>106863999
>>106864008

>>106864012
What GPU is that

File: 1752629538997268.png (1.42 MB, 1600x1105)

1.42 MB PNG

>>106864062
picrel
You can actually speak with the anon about this incident over >>>/v/723066048

anti-sag sticks are a lie none of them work

is adaptive sync good enough or do I want freesync for an amd gpu?

>>106864184
Freesync = (VESA) Adaptive sync = Gsync Compatible

monitor with built-in speakers yay or nay?

>>106864216
like build-in speakers in tv, they all sound horrible, even cheap bookshelf speakers are a huge step up

>>106864230
seconding this, had a few over the years, all sound dog shit

So, serious question, what is the best GPU, 9070 xt or the 5080?

File: 61K5hZLMkSL._AC_SL1500_.jpg (97 KB, 1315x1449)

97 KB JPG

>XV271UM3bmiiprfx
Is acer any good? Found this qhd 27 180hz ips monitor for 180€

>>106864249
5080 is the better card

>>106864268
>€
It's a standard fast-IPS for gaming. What country?
If you can get this model for €154 it would be the same functional panel for less:
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/NdV2FT/gigabyte-gs27qa-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-gs27qa

I updated the BIOS on my ASRock board. Is there any setting I need to set in the BIOS to help prevent an AM5 CPU from being fried?

>>106864285
that's €164.62 on amazon. looks neat

What's the difference between an AOC 24G4XE and a 24G4XED?

Guys stupid question, just to confirm, modern M.2 NVMe PCI Express 4.0 storage are vastly superior in terms of speed compared to traditional SSDs correct?

What speakers do you use?

>>106864359
Edifier qr30 together with their T5 subwoofer. There are very likely better ones without RGB lighting for this price especially if you don't mind slightly bigger drivers but they are decent for a desktop.

>>106864320
The D. Seriously I'm combed the spec pages for each and they are exactly the same:
https://aoc.com/us/products/667/leaflet?language=en-US
https://aoc.com/us/products/731/leaflet?language=en-US

>>106864249
Of the two, easily the 5080. As it should be for $300 ($400?) more.
5070Ti vs. 9070XT is more interesting. The Nvidia card has a repeatable but small edge in performance but also costs anywhere from $100 to $250 more depending on discounts etc. With RDNA4's improved feature set it's definitely not worth $250 extra but it might well be worth $100. Your call.

>>106864323
Over a SATA SSD? Certainly.

>>106864216
They are usually shit anyway

>>106864323
They're vastly faster at reading/moving large files (GB+ scale) but only slightly faster at small file operations which is the majority of consumer use (OS, game loading, web browsing, etc.). Main thing these days is that NVMe costs the same, or less, than SATA so there's no reason not to use it if you can.

>>106864268
You must buy 1200 dorrar OLED

>>106864391
>>106864408
ok thank you for the answers!

Any qrd on asrock frying amd cpus? Thought that shit was fixed. Got asrock b850 phantom gaming with r5 9600x coming

>>106864421
Flash the latest BIOS and keep your proofs of purchase at hand. It seems to be only the 9800X3D that's affected, beyond the rate of random failure, but you don't want to take any chances.

>>106864452
K, kinda limits my potential upgrades and i want my shit to last. Thx

>>106864323
I set my gen 4 ssds to gen 3 in the bios because I dont need all that speed and you actually save power/heat in a laptop&handheld.

>>106864465
Eh it'll almost certainly be ironed out by the time you'd need to upgrade from a 9600X.

File: 1.jpg (189 KB, 1500x843)

189 KB JPG

>>106864249

File: 2.jpg (140 KB, 1500x843)

140 KB JPG

>>106864501

Hello sirs. Trying to build a PC for my sister.
Is Ryzen IGPU enough to play Stardew and similar games?

My old monitor is almost dead. Any decent recommendations for a 1080p monitor under $250?

>>106864612
https://us.ktcplay.com/products/25-inch-300hz-vertical-gaming-monitor
1080p 300hz ips $160

File: 1760275107746.jpg (53 KB, 292x281)

53 KB JPG

>unironically using a 1080p monitor in 2025

>>106864543
stardew runs on phones dude. i hope a desktop would be able to.

>>106863561
So what?

>>106864637
phones/handhelds are still 1080p. people think its good enough.

File: images(12).jpg (22 KB, 480x640)

22 KB JPG

>>106863680
There's only one worth buying.

>>106864638
So what Ryzen should I buy sir? Forgot to mention it should be an AM5 cause I have a spare board sir

>>106864683
Whatever is cheap with an iGPU.

After getting 4k oled screen https://polyhaven.com/ is pretty fun
you can download a 90mb size 360 degree hdr scene and watch it on the immersive monitor
its neato

FUCCCCKKKKKK why did the supers have to be delayed :( :( :(
I got everything for my build I wanted except a card with more than 16gb vram. But I can't wait a year for them to come out and prices to normalize.
My only hope is getting a 5070ti now and selling it to my schizo (real) brother later on. He needs the upgrade badly and it would work out for both of us but talking to him and getting him to think about anything is a huge gamble. Otherwise I'm stuck trying to sell it on ebay with everyone else dumping their non super cards and will get completely fucked.

>>106864776
if you need vram so much just buy a 5090

>>106864776
buy a 5070TI use it
buy a whatever super fits you
sell your 5070TI to a random for 200€ loss, the price of having rented it for 8 months (the supers aren't coming out tomorrow)
there wont be a thousand million cards being sold, not everybody is jumping from a 50 series to a 50 series super
dont mess with your schizo brother

>>106864792
I'm in that shitty position where I can afford a 5080 at most. Double that just isn't in the cards.

>>106864800
do you have some llm application in mind

>>106864799
I've never sold a used pc part before. I assume most people do it on ebay right? Is it really that easy to sell one for most of what you bought it? I looked on there and there are tons of cards figured most of them never get sold until people drop the prices a ton.

>>106864776
Only the 5070 Super is worth waiting for because of how VRAM gimped the vanilla card is and it being the only model that will get a shader count boost. If you had eyes on the 5070 Ti or 5080 models just grab a (sub) MSRP model between now and Black Friday when a deal pops up.

>>106864806
No but I got a 4k big screen tv to play games on. I've been doing some googling and people are saying modern games are already pushing 16gb vram with 4k textures and such.
This build is supposed to be a one time expenditure that would last me another 10 years. Feels like whatever card I get now isn't going to be very future proofed. I would like to have that extra vram so games that come out in 3 or 4 years aren't cock blocking me.

Are fully modular PSU a meme for a regular joe user like me?
Seems like im paying an extra 15% on the same psu for it to be fully modular when 99% of the builds (again for a regular joe like me) will use the shit that is fixed
A semi modular is a no brainer obviously
I assume fully modular are for people that are making some crazy ass shit or want higher quality/thinner/custom cables?
forgive my retardation, im new to this shit

>>106864810
I personally use an specific platform to my country and for a valuable item i would set it to only be dealt with in hand and not just send it anywhere
That said i have bought and sold a lot of stuff 2nd hand through that platform and only have had 1 problem on a 20€ item
Never used ebay personally

>>106864824
seems kinda pedestrian to buy a non modular psu

>>106864824
If the Semi-modular SKU is on sale sure go for it as all systems need the 24-pin ATX/8-pin EPS cables connected. Aside from convenience while building, the modularity feature culls much of the lower quality models based on outdated/cost-cut platforms from the selection process. No company wants to sell a really high-performance unit with a modern design and quality internals with a fixed cable system these days,

>>106864824
They're much easier to build with, you won't have to hide a bunch of cables that you're not even using. In the event of a failure, you can just swap the cable but I've never run into a bad PSU cable, it's usually the PSU itself that fails before anything else. The only thing that was cool for me with modular cables was being able to buy a 12VHPWR cable made for my PSU, and I didn't have to adapt anything or buy a new one. I'd say modular is pretty much essential on small formfactor builds, but you can probably get away with hiding all the cables you don't need on just about any ATX case. But once you go up in wattage, it's hard to find decent nonmodular PSUs anyway. They're all some random brands like PSYKOCHINK and I don't trust that for a PSU, I need a reputable brand with a good warranty.

>>106864823
There's no good option now, not even the 5090 because of its connector and tdp.
I'd say the best move is to get a 5070ti now and then upgrade to a 6080 or 7080 whenever you need more vram

>>106864839
Guess I need to do some more research in reselling. Think I'll try talking to my brother first though, it's his birthday today. Might be able to catch him in a cogent mood. It would really be a benefit for both of us if I could get him to agree. He built a new computer last year and upgraded everything except his graphics card which he carried over from his old one its a 2070 super I think. A 5070ti would be a huge upgrade for him and he would be getting it from someone he knows and I'd sell it at a big discount of course. And it would help me pay for the super upgrade.
But you just never know with him, the wrong thing said or done can send him in a spiral that takes weeks to recover from.
All the tech in the world and we still have no clue how to fix brains, I would trade it all if I could make him normal. He lives in a hell most of us can't even imagine.
Sorry for the off topic rant just extra frustrated today.

>>106864845
im obviously picking a semimodular at worst, so im just semipedestrian
>>106864852
i understand what you mean ty
>>106864869
but i wont be having any spare cable because to my understanding i should be using everything fixed in the semimodular, just not all the detachable ones, so get a cheaper psu that has the same features (for me) as a fully modular since the fixed stuff on the semimodular is stuff i would 100% use

so if i buy a modern gpu/cpu, how hard is it to turn off all the fake frames and "ai" processing?

>>106864905
You don't have to turn anything off, you have to turn them on if you want/need them. If you aren't playing at 4k you doubtfully need them at all.

>>106864879
No need to apologize for venting, im having a similar battle taking care of my father, his neurological degradation on the last 3 years or so has been staggering and frightening
At any rate understand that these supers FOR MY MONEY are not coming out until summer next year, so about 8 months, i have been wrong before but we have had only whispers about them, not even full blown reputable rumors.
I would back the other anon on getting a 70TI now and then scouting the market once the super happens but not being pressed about it, if nothing is a massive improvement just wait for a 60xx
For your brother i would probe him about maybe getting a 5060TI for 400 and going splits on it since its his birthday or whatever.
Best of luck anon

>>106864905
You open a game and on graphics they will have an option called
>Fake Frames Generation DLSS(njudea) FSR(aylmaod) None
You just activate one or the other or none.
Same with upscaling and sharpening of image.

>>106864905
Upscaling and frame generation are usually just in the settings. If for whatever reason the game you're playing forces it on, you can just disable it in the driver settings. DLSS upscaling is cool, frame gen kinda sucks unless you have a good frame rate to begin with or if you need it for a game with a lot of ray tracing.

>>106864908
>>106864930
>>106864932
arent you people confused about someone buying a product with the intent of avoiding using its features

File: 1740564739154365.jpg (64 KB, 904x1024)

64 KB JPG

>>106864915
Thanks for the advice really appreciate it. Best of luck to you and your father.

>>106864937
It's your computer, use it how you want.

Anybody have a recommendation of the most battle tested cheap 1440p 160+hz monitor?
Do i just go to pcpartpicker and check what i want and just order by ratings?
I want to spend about 200-250€ and get a monitor that lasts me a while to play at 1440p

>>106864937
An anon asked a question and i tried to give him a reasonable and informed answer.
I personally have frame gen up most of the time, however as other anon mentioned its only good once you already have a decent base, else it gets a bit jarring.
I just try to help on whatever capacity i can anon.

>>106864942
AI is ruining everything just like bitcoin did before. RAM and storage is only going to get more expensive until the average person can't even afford it at all.

>>106860188
PC for home lab help.
Q:
-5700g or 5950x for local AI stuff? (rtx3090+64g ram)

-AM4 mobo pcie lines conf?
If I run 1 gpu+M2 expansion card+10g networking. will I have pcie lines for sata extension card to attach 4+ sata ssd/hdd?

I have standard MSI B550 tomahawk

Build:

on mobo
am4 cpu
64g 3600mhz kit
150tdp air cooler (probably Fera 5)
main M2 boot drive. 1 m2 slot empty
sata raid 5 from mix of 10tb shucked WD external drives and 8tb seagate 7E10 8tb
pcie:
10g pcie networking card
x4 raid5 pool of 4x 2tb ssd (used mixed ssd)
(sata expansion card or ASM1166 M.2 PCIE to SATA)

>>106864946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56EPH-MibMM

the streets are saying the titan army mini led is slightly better than the m27p6. doesn't get as bright, but it's also cheaper...so mini led bros, we have options on the table now. it's a good time to be a mini led enjoyer. amdunboxed also reviewed the msi one and they say it's good.

>>106864824
Fully modular is just easier to deal with, way easier. That fat fuck braided cable in modular/semi-modular fucking sucks.

>>106864937
what, mad someone isnt buying into the fake frames and gayi hype?

>>106865011
Past 5 years ML techniques have been the only relevant value add technology in gpus

File: file.png (1.65 MB, 3450x1059)

1.65 MB PNG

>>106864990
example
ktc on the right

File: panels.jpg (301 KB, 1716x964)

301 KB JPG

>>106864990
>>106865019
i do not like mini led
guess which is mini led and which is oled

>>106865018
i want to play my esports slop without fake frames lying to me about the game state

Only tangentially related, but anyone mind recommending me a headset?

>>106865038
budget gaymer - hd 560s
more money gamer - hd 490 pro
money is not an issue gamer - hd 800s

>>106865038
Can't recommend anything when you gave us zero information to go on.

>>106864990
>>106865019
Nice, despite not getting as bright the Titan Army one looks to have better contrast.

>>106865058
it kinda looks like it's clipping in darker areas though, i wonder which setting the guy used for LD on the ktc, it has like 3 settings

>>106865050
Well the mic on my current one died. It's a Logitech Pro X but I got it as a Christmas gift a while back and I'm not super attached to it.
I guess ergonomics/comfort are more important than sound quality?

File: cp be.jpg (248 KB, 1548x1000)

248 KB JPG

I did some cp benches and the transformer model didnt have an fps hit on 3080 vs cnn
Even the game menu says its only recced for 40xx or newer gpus and ampere should stick with cnn.

Why isnt trans model lower fps?

>>106865071
driver improvements

>>106864637
What's wrong

>>106865019
Can't you just turn contrast up on the other one for the exact same image? And aren't both monitors using the exact same panel anyways?

>>106865069
you could try replacing the mic with a shitty one from amazon/aliexpress which they sell, can't speak to their quality though

>>106865071
transformer dlss isn't what's heavy on turing and ampere, it's ray reconstruction.
Probably also why no version of framegen has made it to Ampere.

>>106864637
i will use 1080p til the day i die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVg9wXuWvew
>The latest version of Lost Soul Aside has major stutters, even in the main menu. The solution? Enable Ray Tracing. Once you do, the game will run fine. Disable it, and the game will once again perform poorly. And then some devs wonder why people are trashing their games.

fucking kek

>>106865071
>>106865168
Also most people don't have a 3080, they have something like a 3060 or 2060 where the hit is noticable but still less than 10% at 1080p.
On some of the laptop gpus + higher resolutions the hit could be bigger

>>106865223
So this is the new meta, make the game totally unusable unless ray tracing is turned on

Gotta say I didn't see it coming even if it's such an obvious play

File: 1739812656533989.jpg (3.66 MB, 4000x3000)

3.66 MB JPG

Fuck Amazon I'm seething. Ordered this thing and specifically set the delivery date for the 15th because I knew I would be there. Not even thinking about it but check on a different order and I see the invoice for the psu saying it was delivered yesterday. They gave me no notice, no email or anything saying they were sending it early. I was here all day yesterday there was no knock on my door. It was sitting outside all day and night. Plus it doesn't fit the box and was just bouncing around inside there was no padding.
Really upset if this thing doesn't work or fries my computer I'm going to go postal.

File: 1750702979016437.jpg (143 KB, 1000x1000)

143 KB JPG

Is there a beginner's guide to mechanical keyboards?

>>106865223
>Ray traced menus
FOR WHAT PURPOSE?

>>106865174
Hey man if you like it, go ahead. I prefer 1440p.

>>106865350
keychron has bad qa, stick with membrane

>>106865360
rt is used to illuminate things in video games

>>106865350
There is a general for them you'll find a lot more info there
>>106852214
This cunt is decent
https://www.youtube.com/@SwitchandClickOfficial
This guy is a soifag but also decent
https://www.youtube.com/@HipyoTech

If you've never had one before I suggest getting a cheap one first. There are decent ones you can get on amazon for 50 bucks or less. You can practice taking it apart and figuring out how they work. If you like it you can upgrade to a more custom one after that.

>>106860352
Nah, it's gonna be like crypto where it keeps going with diminishing returns. Bitcoin broke its ATH last month, but you didn't hear much about it because of the monumental effort it took to accomplish this. Some banks are "predicting" (actually just trying to bait normalfags into buying) that we'll see $200K bitcoins soon, but even with modern institutional support it will take moving heaven and earth just to get to a hypothetical $150K figure. Same with AI, they're already hitting limits with how much power they can give to LLM's, hence all the shit happening like Microsoft buying up nuclear power plants just to power their datacenters. All of the sudden nuclear is now good enough for all these companies pretending to care about green energy earlier after all these years of stigma!

>>106865350
>>>/g/mkg

>>106865350
Yeah : Don't be autistic and just buy something that isn't a faggy little thing with no number pad.
It's not niche anymore so you can spend like $30 and get something good
Also it's a waste of time anyways for a meme and you should forget about it
PS : Red switches were always good for typing, I can type at 130wpm

File: FyjpETGWIAES1H6[1].jpg (90 KB, 1920x1080)

90 KB JPG

>assemble pc
>yellow dram light comes on

>>106865276
yeah amazon don't care about delivery dates any more been that way for a while so long as its grabbed of the shelf they send it regardless
if you're a stay home all day neet it's fine every thing basically arrives 2 days free shipping
if you have a life and need to follow schedules it's fucked
and yeah they'll leave it anywhere on your property no notice of where
and then there's the stuff they lose

RAY TRACED MENUS

THANK YOU JENSEN THANK YOU NVIDIA

File: astolfo thinking.jpg (86 KB, 1074x884)

86 KB JPG

>>106860188
I don't usually post in here but I'm looking to do another build and have a few questions:

● What is the age at which it's considered too dangerous to use a given power supply? I have a PSU from an older build that I'm planning to repurpose, but it's almost 10 years old so I'm afraid I'm putting together a bomb by continuing to use it. The same goes for its motherboard; it still works fine, but it's also almost 10 years old and is also a Gigabyte board which I heard some bad things about.
● I have plans to turn my current daily driver into a NAS server and want to replace its (malfunctioning!) motherboard with a giant E-ATX board that I can plug a ton of hard drives into. What are the current manufacturers I should avoid? Several years ago it was Gigabyte and a few years ago it was Asus, but I'm not on /g/ much anymore so I'm not up to speed on what the current bad manufacturer is.
● This is more of a /mkg/ question, and I'm planning to ask this there too, but what are some good places to buy new keycaps at? The ones on my work keyboard are all faded.

>>106865437
Wait 5 minutes then start panicking.

These NAS case motherfuckers stick an extra $100 on a case just because it has a few drive cages fucking cunts

get yourself a nice office chair, pcbg
your ass and back will thank you

>>106865587
This but a lazyboy recliner. You'll never go back.

>>106865350
just get a Keychron V3 and enjoy it. or whatever tf layout you care for, from V series. once you see what's it all about you can go turbo gay with muh custom nonsense

>>106864975
>5700g or 5950x for local AI stuff?
Depends on your training setup. If it's all going on the GPU you could get away with a cheaper CPU but maybe go 5950X anyway for VMs etc.

>will I have pcie lines for sata extension card to attach 4+ sata ssd/hdd?
You should have enough lanes but might be limited by the physical slot config. Make sure the SATA adapter is x1 if your 10G card is x4 or higher (or vice versa).

>64g 3600mhz kit
Bit of silicon/mobo lottery involved in getting that to run XMP. Should be fine at 3200 though.

>>106865497
>What is the age at which it's considered too dangerous to use a given power supply?
Right about 10 years IMO. Unless the warranty was longer I suppose.

>What are the current manufacturers I should avoid?
Doesn't make sense if you're reusing the CPU. You'll need a board from back when that CPU came out but finding an appropriate used E-ATX board will be hard enough before brand even comes in to it. Plus it'd almost certainly be cheaper to get a mainstream ATX board and a HBA card.

File: 1750623082516296.png (25 KB, 500x500)

25 KB PNG

>4GB RAM machine
>idles at 2.5gb usage
>6GB RAM machine
>idles at 3gb usage
>8GB RAM machine
>idles at 4-5gb usage
>16GB RAM machine
>idles at 6-7gb usage
>32GB RAM machine
>idles at 10-12gb usage
Is RAM a fucking scam? How high do I need to go for Windows+Edge+Discord to not eat a solid 30-50% just by default?

>>106865860
Windows issues.
Also unused RAM is wasted RAM.

>>106865860
Don't worry about it
Windows manages RAM in ways you likely won't understand or dont want to understand.
Complain when you actually have a ram intensive task.

>>106865804
>get a mainstream ATX board and a HBA card
Might do this instead, thanks for the info!

File: 1742941818449150.jpg (77 KB, 854x605)

77 KB JPG

I can't get this shite to work. I can only get it to change the light on my ram. I guess my motherboard isn't supported even though the list of supported devices don't list motherboards?

I guess I'm forced to get a fan hub and its proprietary software

File: GIF-132.gif (2.99 MB, 355x201)

2.99 MB GIF

>>106864095
MY SIDES

File: images.jpg (7 KB, 299x168)

7 KB JPG

>>106864671
Wrong, razer was is and will always be trash
>>106863680
Corsair Scimitar Pro

>>106865888
>>106865914
small usage good
big usage bad

File: Screenshot_42.png (123 KB, 336x314)

123 KB PNG

Do i want to go 10% market share or 80%?
>i'm 80% kind of guy
>6%
This guy single handedly fucked Radeon

>>106866165
They won't get market share as long as they will try to keep their margins high for the investors.

>>106866165
Raja Pooduri fucked amd, he axed GCN in favor of graphics optimized cards just as novideo moved to big compute

File: image1454.png (105 KB, 1218x556)

105 KB PNG

>>106866188
From Radeon -100$ to Radeon -0$
Similar die size +150$ price increase
You could say newer node is more expensive but not fucking 150$ more

File: hs.png (46 KB, 950x356)

46 KB PNG

How are rnda bagholders holding up on this wonderful (green and raytraced) Sunday morning

>>106866188
The fact that their CPUs & GPUs share the same process node and AMD obviously favors their higher margin server chips is actively harming Radeon Graphics. They either need to spin it off, or separate out their manufacturing lines so both designs have place orders in volume without cannibalizing each other. On that note couldn't Intel & Nvidia make an agreement to buy up all of TSMC's wafer allocation and prevent AMD from selling ANY processors OR graphics cards unless they were forced to Samsung?

>>106866274
I think it would be really cool if AMD had some cheap and shitty GloFo GPUs
Vega was made there and it absolutely mogged Pascal

>>106866287
ELI5 : Why couldn't amd just stick with Vega? Not like RDNA1 was any better

>>106866274
if intel starts making Celestial on 18A
They could mog AMD
C580 for 200$ while having good profits

>>106866287
>>106866352
I've said it before and I'll say it again, whoever pulls the trigger first on going to Samsung (like with Pascal) or even 18A Intel next-gen for GPUs instead of TSMC for cheap volume production will win.

File: PCB1.png (73 KB, 1718x556)

73 KB PNG

Going from a 1080ti and i7 8700k from 2018 to a 9070xt and 9800x3d. I'd like it to last just as long if not longer than my current build. I'm waiting for lower RAM prices, and trying to figure out which of the 9070xts will last the longest if I don't OC. I think I know what case I want. I want to play Borderlands 4 (only one that runs like shit on my build), I like playing heavily modded single player games like Skyrim and Fo4, Rimworld, Cyberpunk, Risk of Rain 2. Not a huge FPS player, don't care about Call of Duty or BF. Would Like to play Blade and Sorcery on my Quest 3 without lagging. Any recommendations? I can also be patient (I think) for Black Friday/Cyber Monday/Whatever deals, but I would like to finish the build before the end of the year.

>>106866237
7700XT was also awfully priced card.
7800XT was better deal and better comparison point, used the same die as 7700XT but came with 16GB.
9070 simply should be cheaper by another $50. Lower end models used to give you better price to performance ratio but not anymore.
9070XT also came out with fake price, you could not find MSRP cards for very long time.

>>106866331
If you look at raytracing performance, 5700XT does better than Vega
they were trying to cut down on "dead weight", or too much compute, not enough raster

>>106865071
on 20xx and 30xx transformer is only better if you can take ray reconstruct off in game. Otherwise FPS hog.

>>106866373
The 7700 XT to 7800 XT is the same thing now with the 9070 to 9070 XT but now as you've said fake MSRPs
Upsell 50$
Radeon really doesn't care, milking the last of their customers
Now they need to be 40% cheaper than their counterparts for me to even consider them

how are melting connectors still a thing?
can't they patch the gpu to not draw as much power to prevent it from melting?

>>106866424
>can they open themselves to a false advertising lawsuit
Sure

Wtf, almost bought a shitty 5070.

I did not know until just now that some AIBs have locked the powerlimit to 100% via Bios, no OC.
At least you can decrease power limit?

Absolutely scummy that it is not said whether it's locked or not.

>>106866373
>9070XT also came out with fake price, you could not find MSRP cards for very long time.
steve says you are a liar and that they were able to easily purchase 3 at msrp on 3 different stores
Despite everybody on these threads trying and only managing to get them at +100€ on release if not worse
I have just recently seen a couple models at close to msrp on my country now and still they aren't there
Man i hate nvidia but that msrp stunt by amd soured me on them big time

>>106866456
I wouldn't buy a gpu with no drivers but you can just undervolt and the card will overclock itself automatically

>>106866372
See >>106863453
The 7800X3D is a far better buy right now as AMD's asking price for the 9800X3D is not commensurate with it's performance uplift.

Overspending the PSU as even a 750W unti would werk fine with that system, here's a quality 850W unit with a 10-year warranty for $45 less:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sqbypg/montech-century-ii-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-century-ii-850w

Same-spec 64GB RAM kit for just $35 more:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rDdG3C/silicon-power-xpower-zenith-gaming-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp064gxlwu60afde

Check the spec sheet to make sure the feature set fits your needs, but 90% this $50 cheaper board will do everything you need:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs-wifi

>>106866409
If 9070 had the same price as 5070 it would be a killer card.
9060XT 16GB at $300 would also be a great option.
I doubt they could even manage to keep up with the demand at that point.

>>106866472
I want to control the power limit as well though.

>>106866507
AMD ships 1/10th of Nvidia Cards in volume
AMD cant price the same as Nvidia
They can't win at all unless they swap fabs and actually price normally instead of -50$ coupon

>>106866529
If the demand is higher than what they can supply the retailers and AIBs will simply bump the prices anyway.
-$100 coupon on a $400 or $600 GPU is all they need, -$50 isn't cutting it.
But at the same time normalfags will keep buying nV because laptops never come with Radeon.

>>106866507
the one that baffles me is the 9070
right now the cheapest model in my country is 616€
The cheapest 9070xt is 654€
Who the fuck are you expecting to buy these 9070 when the other model is just 40€ more expensive, and this is not an expensive 9070 compared to the cheapest XT but both models their cheapest available options right now in my country
wtf

>>106866577
Always demand for Radeon but yet they fall in Market Share each quarter.
They are doing max margin for minimal effort 2 gens in a row

>>106866582
I hate my country's tech prices.
>tech item MSRP in america - 599 USD (515 EUR)
>tech item MSRP in western/central Europe - 699 EUR (812 USD)
>price in my cunt - 749 EUR
>minimum monthly salary Germany - 2.2k EUR
>minimum monthly salary in my cunt - 551 EUR
no wonder everyone with the means to is leaving this shithole to go work horrible manual labour in Germany or the UK and earn obscene amounts of money, comparable to what his old boss used to earn back here, for picking strawberries

>>106866582
>Who the fuck are you expecting to buy these
isn't this markting trick called upselling?

>>106866704
No one at AyyMD or nV will give us sales numbers for specific products.
But if you look at $team survey you can notice low end craptop GPUs are the most popular kind.
AMD has no products in this category.
Pre-builts usually also come with nV and this is another large part of the market.
So there is more to their shitty market share than simply selling cheaper than nV.

>>106866456
>>106866516
the strict power limit is a hint that the board has shitty vrms/mosfets. if you try to go higher you end up with exploded caps. techpowerup has teardowns of some gpus and you can tell which ones are really cheap and really good just by looking.

>>106866456
Just flash another vbios then?
Regardless, 5070 doesn't benefit much from slamming the power limit to 300w (max with any bios until we get super cards)
Both the 70 and 70ti are much better undervolted with +3000 (or higher) to memory.

I got an Asus PRIME X670E-PRO WIFI. If I put a 9950x3d in it, will it blow up?

File: 2025-01-20-14h39m55s602.jpg (1.7 MB, 3840x2160)

1.7 MB JPG

>>106866808
yes but not because the board is bad
AMD CPUs just do that sometimes

>>106866817
oof
how

>>106866767
60/70 class desktop cards are the most popular
RX 6600/XT is the most popular card from amd
APUs take 5% of AMDs Steam Survey GPUs

I'm convinced it's just not anywhere near worth it to suck up for replacing my 5900X that is competent at workloads and doesn't seem to flinch at new games. Also quite cool running on water. Gud CPU.

>>106866890
Laptops and pre-builts combined are the majority of the market, Radeon has almost no presence in those.
Normalfags don't even know AMD makes GPUs.

>>106866767
xx50 and xx60 laptops will keep selling as long as they're being offered for sub-1000 euro brand new with 2 year warranty, come with decently powerful i5 or i7 class CPUs, and can be used for both casual/esports gaming and educational use. The target audience for these machines are the parents of kids aged 10-16 that are smart enough to want to branch out beyond smartphones/nintendo games, but can't convince mum and dad to get them a full fat desktop + monitor + keyboard + mouse + desk, etc., but were able to convince them to spend 1k on a laptop + a cheap gaming mouse and play it on the living room coffee table or their study desk.

>>106866894
>>106866894
>>106866894

>>106866477
I already bought the PSU and MoBo on sale, unless there’s something wrong with them I don’t plan on returning them. Though maybe I bought them too early when I don’t have the other parts.

The RAM brand doesn’t matter, but would I need more than 32GBs if Im not doing much other than gaming? If it goes on sale for a decent price, maybe I’ll shoot for 64GB.

Thanks for linking that chart, I’ll likely get the 7800x3d instead. I won’t lie, despite the chart I am still kind of holding out for 9800x3d going on sale but if a good 9070xt price comes out, I’ll stick with the 7800x3d buy them both so I can start building. Even though the difference is marginal performance wise, I still want the “better” performing card for long term

>>106866860
dogshit mobos with bad untested voltage control in their PBO presets
assrock had to apologize and cover a great deal of RMA costs for wrecked CPUs

>>106866924
Sure Anon, but that's exactly why AMD should target those people more if they cared about market share.
They clearly care more about margins so they made Strix Halo instead.

>>106866860
no one knows
AM5 is safe and effective
>>106866952
that's an MSI board btw

File: hdd-cage.png (186 KB, 687x527)

186 KB PNG

>>106865545
3d printers fix that problem, just hotglue these fucking things in a box

>>106862159

now there be 2k card at shelves wrong gpu ceo there is possibility that then 2k card is no more

>>106862784

build works no touch it anymore
build a new

>>106863573

how would i know nice audio circuit maybe

>>106866959
i fucking hate amd

>>106864230

maybe like weak but likely phase optimized like under one q bass response no crossover they even spec distance to wall for tml or minimalist delay

>>106865350

brown is quiet one, red supposedly goes clack, blue supposedly goes cruntch-clack, not sure about translucent or black

>>106862159
>fml, can't believe I have to pay 2k to get a card with more than 16gb vram. How have the gpu ceo's not been mobbed and hung in the streets?
Yet again, the B60 releases this year, and maybe I'll get one.

Or, maybe I'll wait for Celestial. 32gb Celestial card yes please (cat emoji)

>>106864915
Vax induced cjd?

Is computing better with all-cotton underwear?

Haedbutt me on CU-DIMM RAM. Is it worth the insane price?

>>106868604
not yet

>>106868604
If you're an arrow lake sure
you have to pay out the ass to get the high speed ram to make it worthwhile anyway

it's so insane we have quad slot GPUs now