>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

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>refusing to spend on a case this hard
Why? What's wrong with a box that is built like a tank and fits all your components to perfection?

>>106866962
at the minimum you want something that provides enough airflow and doesn't cause dust to enter to clog everything. having no airflow causes issues for everything. having no case to allow airflow makes dust clog it all up. unless you got one of those gpus with magnetic fans just get a good case.

>>106866477 #
I already bought the PSU and MoBo on sale, unless there’s something wrong with them I don’t plan on returning them. Though maybe I bought them too early when I don’t have the other parts.

The RAM brand doesn’t matter, but would I need more than 32GBs if Im not doing much other than gaming? If it goes on sale for a decent price, maybe I’ll shoot for 64GB.

Thanks for linking that chart, I’ll likely get the 7800x3d instead. I won’t lie, despite the chart I am still kind of holding out for 9800x3d going on sale but if a good 9070xt price comes out, I’ll stick with the 7800x3d buy them both so I can start building. Even though the difference is marginal performance wise, I still want the “better” performing card for long term

anyone here has tips on how to apply mx6?
I've read this paste isnt suitable for spreading so whats the best application pattern
and should I warm it up a little bit in my hand or is it unnecessary?

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>A few LGA 1700 processors degrade quickly. Intel extends warranty and fixes issue
Massive problem. Never buy intel again
>A few AM5 processors literally catch on fire or explode. No attempt at fixing the issue or offering compensation
It's okay, must be a user issue anyways

Make this make sense.

>>106866962
the op pic is from some retard in /v/
which isnt surprising tbhdesu

>>106867004
Well, AMD accepts RMAs even if PBO was enabled

>>106867004
>2019
>AMD has lower gaming performance, higher multicore performance and lower cost per frame
>all techtubers recommend AMD
>2025
>intel has lower gaming performance, higher multicore performance and lower cost per frame
>all techtubers... still recommend AMD
GN recently said >80% of their audience buys AMD (from affiliate links)
this is the power of techtubers

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>>106867077
>GN recently said >80% of their audience buys AMD (from affiliate links)
So amd fanboys are confirmed mostly parrots following their favorite fag-tuber? Why are these freaks given any type of platform?

>>106867113
$$$
Why do your own research when someone else tells you what to think with reasons you’re not going to look up

>>106867076
yeah because they can't tell PBO was enabled
on threadrippers they can and i guarantee you aren't getting a replacement if the OC fuse was blown
>>106867113
techtubers tell their audience they NEED the 9800X3D to play fortnite or they will be left behind
that audience goes to reddit and tells everyone about how great the 9800X3D is
reddit encourages groupthink so any dissenting opinion is downvoted into oblivion
AI models are trained on reddit so when normalfags ask the magic chat app in their phone what they should buy it always answers AMD

this is how you win the DIY market

>>106866995
It's a bitch to apply if you want to spread it evenly.
It will not stick to the IHS like normal paste at least not at the room temperature.
I simply made a swastika pattern without spreading it and the cooler pressure did the rest.

am I a dummy for still being on ddr4? I want to upgrade to 64gb of ram(possibly 128) and the prices are so much higher than what I was expecting. they are similar to ddr5 prices. not only that but the selection of ddr4 ram at those capacities appears to be at least 10 times less than ddr5 ram. like the industry has fully moved on.

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so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

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>>106867182
>this is how you win the DIY market
Why isn't it working for the gpu side? They've been shilling those even harder and longer. I understand diy sales Nvidia isn't like 95% or something like prebuilts and laptop dgpus but it's still overwhelming.
>>106867173
Eventually they should have enough experience to kind of understand the lay of the land without really doing any research though

>>106867113
What exactly is the problem? AMD CPUs are currently superior, they are the logical choice for a purchase.

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>>106867183
nta but top kek, will definitely try it next time

what's the best way to test for CPU and RAM stability? prime95 blend?
also any 9950X3D fag caring to report Vsoc and Vcore when buttfucking all their threads?

>>106867297
>They've been shilling those even harder and longer
NVIDIA is also good at stealth marketing
they've been doing it for a very long time
https://web.archive.org/web/20130915125814/https://consumerist.com/2006/02/06/did-nvidia-hire-online-actors-to-promote-their-products
https://web.archive.org/web/20130915143001/https://consumerist.com/2006/02/06/nvidias-perez-they-act-as-our-voice
>>106867314
AMD CPUs are currently blowing up

>>106867243
AFAIK DDR4 is still being manufactured but they're scaling back. Higher capacity configs will be rarer because the big buyers (server/enterprise) are all on DDR5.

>>106867182
>techtubers tell their audience they NEED the 9800X3D to play fortnite or they will be left behind
No one is saying this except the worst of the worst clickbait channels no one should watch anyway. And you literally do need amd x3d if you don't want many multiplayer games to ever stutter on you.

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>>106867314
>currently superior
Literally just in one segment: Ignoring everything else including other/mixed usecases and value, the best gaming cpu.

>>106867327
It's not very stealthy if they openly had press conferences about it 20 years ago, isn't it?

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>>106867004
>A few LGA 1700 processors degrade quickly
>>106867327
>AMD CPUs are currently blowing up

I hope Intel are at least paying you for doing damage control and AMD FUD for them

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>>106867336
>No one is saying this except the worst of the worst clickbait channels no one should watch anyway
sure
>And you literally do need amd x3d if you don't want many multiplayer games to ever stutter on you
lol you really believe this shit
do i need to prove a point? download CS2 (it's free)
get this map: https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3240880604
run the benchmark and report back with your results
>>106867343
20 years ago is ancient history
but everyone has undercover shills now so it's not like they're doing anything special, AMD and NVIDIA are just better at it

>>106867317
OCCT
yCruncher
Prime95
memTest
You can also run Fluffy Doughnut AKA FurMark in the background for extra heat load in case your RAM is temperature sensitive.

>>106867365
Cs2 runs well on toasters even. My 5900x can push over 300 fps sometimes. Not a good example. X3d undeniably helps tremendously for some multiplayer titles. Tarkov is probably the best example, streets on that game is dogshit on anything that isnt x3d. Also getting triggered by a youtube thumbnail is sad as fuck.

>>106867365
Nigga I'm not downloading 50+GB to prove an internet argument.

>>106867398
>Cs2 runs well on toasters even
no it doesn't
CS:GO did
>My 5900x can push over 300 fps sometimes
not in 1% lows
but whatever, you don't even have an X3D so you don't understand how overhyped they are
just doing it for free, for the love of the game, i respect it
>>106867425
you should invest in a better internet connection instead of an overpriced 8 core CPU

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you wouldn't need an X3D cpu if you didn't play homosexual cumpetitive video gaymes

>>106867463
this

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>It's another pcbg episode where craptel shills cry that x3d is the king of gaming and scream that everyone should be looking at their epic cinebench synthetic meme scores instead where their cope ultra 285k can win

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I have a 9600 non-X

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>>106867497
seethe

>>106867497
why did techtubers stop shilling cinebench scores anyway
oh right
>>106867509
apply this
https://www.patreon.com/posts/low-effort-rank-77403831
no X3D needed

>>106867368
thanks m9
I feel like this goes without saying but I should turn off the iGPU when trying to minmax for the best UV, right?

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quick question bros

3080 ti 12gb 2nd or new 5060 8gb
for moderate gaming and also Day trading

>>106867568
At the same price of course you do the 3080ti, that's just straight up the better card.

>>106867527
You can disable it if you aren't using it, one less thing to worry about.

>>106867568
5060 is about as powerful as a 3070. 3080 Ti is a solid step up from that, right between the 4070 and 5070. Always get the 3080 Ti as long as your PSU can handle the higher power draw. That's assuming both are priced somewhere around 300-350 euro.

>>106867579
will 650w psu do the job for 3080 ti??
and its not atx 3.1

>>106867463
>>106867490
Lots of L3 cache is beneficial outside of gaming. That's why the 9950X3D exists.

>>106867338
Right, and people are buying them to play video games, the intended purpose. I'm not sure what fantasy world you live in, but the only high performance computing need the average person may have (if any) is running video games. Intel can put 3500 e-cores on their CPUs and circlejerk over Cinebench scores or whatever but basically nobody in the consumer market actually needs that shit.

>>106867630
"those people" should take a look at the playstation 5, it's a product that was designed to play video games

>>106867113
>>GN recently said >80% of their audience buys AMD (from affiliate links)
*AMD CPUs which the entire market buys anyway

>>106867243
I'm still using a DDR3 system every day

>>106867336
>And you literally do need amd x3d if you don't want many multiplayer games to ever stutter on you.
they still stutter and framedrop on x3d

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>missed shit posting the entire weekend and this day on pcbg
>It's over
anyway, current topic, Ikea Idåsen vs Mittzon tables - electric, which one does not cuck me
the Idåsen non standing is Optimum tech approved, but Mittzon is the best seller

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>>106867662
could've fooled me

>>106867702
>Optimum tech approved
arab

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>>106867605
As long as the power supply isn't total junk you should be good to go, undervolt if you're worried about it.
>>106867630
>>106867665
See pic related + cope and seethe
>>106867336
>literally do need amd x3d if you don't want many multiplayer games to ever stutter on you.
Name one game. 9800x3d isn't even any faster for compiling shaders and random loading things in bulk.

>>106867662
As was the 9800X3D ;)

>>106867728
>>See pic related
Yes that's what I said. That's it in picture form.

>>106867710
lmao
PS2 then (you don't need more)
>>106867728
>9800x3d isn't even any faster for compiling shaders
yeah this is the worst part
the 9950X3D is overpriced but it's a halo product, it's the best at everything, some people want that and that's fine
the 9800X3D is overpriced and it sucks outside of very specific scenarios, in very specific conditions
>>106867737
why would you buy a playstation CPU for your personal computer

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>>106867613
This kills the pootel shill
>>106867728
Yeah nice chart that shows intel losing marketshare to AMD which nearly went bankrupt only a decade ago dumbass.

Intel fanboys have become the schizos of the pc world. Because yeah its techpowerup reviews and gn videos that caused intel stock to hit rock bottom, there is no way they have been making uncompetitive products.

>Great news
>My friend gave me a pretty solid PC, it has asus rog strix 4090 oc, 7950x3D and 64gb 6000 ram with a titanium(!?) 1600 PSU since he got a new PC recently

>Bad news
>Installed everything but....my razer deathadder V3 pro extension software won't work

I'm fucking ruined bros

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>>106867710
Hahahahahaha

There's no reason to build on ATX.

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It has recently come to my attention that virtually ALL monitors are using dogshit mediatek chips as scalers. I mean like 99.9% of them. I read up on this after Nvidia announced they were ditching their stupid fucking GSync modules and allowing mediatek to implement it in their chips. There is no escape from them. It's one of the main reasons that VRR has random flickering issues with random configurations and why color accuracy is so fucked across the board for "prosumer" monitors. Buying a monitor fucking sucks and I hate it.

The monitor cartel needs to be broken up again. Fuck this market holy shit

>>106867780
i feel like the good news should balance out the bad news in your case
give him a kiss on the cheek next time you meet him

>>106867780
also, should I change the thermal paste with grizzly paste? I saw the temp for the CPU spike up to 70C when it was installing all of the updates....PC even has an Arctic IOU cooler too on the CPU. But the 4090 was in the 40C range the whole time...

>>106867780
It's no so often you run into a male prostitute on /g/. Hope you're having a good time there bud

>>106867806
>grizzly paste
overrated shit. Just use regular pastes
>70c
That's normal for a near full core workload even with an aio.

Someone some time ago said something about there being a better/safer/something way of updating from windows 10 to 11 and I dont remember anymore
Not through the updates menu but something else. Maybe with windows 11 files or something
help

>>106867797
Freesync killed Gsync. No need for modules or Nvidia hands involved. It's open source and free. It's so ubiquitous that phones have it.

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>Nvidia deal almost doubled intel stock
>Now that hype died down stock trending down again already
Lmao. Post another cope that x3d is a Playstation cpu surely that will stop the stock dropping another point intards.

>>106867837
tech stocks move with crypto stocks now. when crypto goes up tech goes down. when tech goes up crypto goes down.

>>106867442
You have no idea how big 3D v cache was for the ten people who play racing and flying sims. Even WoW.
>>106867793
Maybe if you have girl hands.

>>106867837
post CS2 benchmark numbers
>>106867848
i know for a fact you don't need X3D for wow

>>106867442
X3D is the opposite of overhyped. It's the biggest innovation in CPUs since they moved the northbridge from the Mobo to inside the chip itself.

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>>106867832
Gsync's implementation was genuinely better and I'm saying this as someone who has only bought AMD and is still using a fucking Vega64 with a viewsonic Freesync monitor. The scaler chips they designed had a much higher range of frames they worked in which was the main reason you would even really need VRR in the first place. Yes it's nice at higher framerates but at lower ones it's way, way more important to have.

Seriously read up on how dogshit the PWM implementation is by Mediatek and you'll see why them having a complete monopoly on the scaler chip market is a really fucking bad thing. The actual professional market standard, Flanders, refuses to use them and made their OWN FPGA just to ensure color accuracy on their monitors. It's not just marketing bullshit I promise you

>>106867682
i'm trying to run ai and my existing ram isn't enough.

>>106867831
download rufus
click checkbox to disable TPM requirement (if that's what you're worried about)
the end

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>>106867719
>The board
Idåsen is 3mm and is thicker vs 1.9mm on Mittzon, idåsen is a full 160x80, Mittzon has a cutout and is 160x68 or whatever it is on the 160x80 full, which also means it has slit for cable management and stuff, but has the cable management collector thingy behind it - which will be problematic if you wanna arm stand mount monitors

>Legs
Mittzon has better C legs for mobility shit, Idåsen has A legs at the bottom which slightly hampers mobility, but is more stable

>Electric adjustment
Mittzon has 2 saved modes and up down vs Idåsen which has just up down with a lever, plus the lever is placed closer to the center than absolute sides which is more annoying, not sure u can choose spot on Idåsen but on Mittzon it's left or right, think it's on both
Mittzon also has 2 hooks on either side

My ideal table would just be a giant slab with C legs and the button placement places far away on sides but apparently they don't even wanna make that maybe some where else has that
actually now that I remember it pretty much I am describing the Secretlab magnus pro, but it also has a cuck slit, but the controller is integrated in the table so it doesnt cuck your chair so, but it's a 1150€ table so eh

>>106867863
You don't need a CPU made in this decade for WoW if you don't mind stuttering and abysmal 1% lows.

>>106867874
Because its open source, it has the pros and cons of open source. one of the cons is its up to whoever uses it to define the actual thing. look at android. its linux which is open and free as possible but so google gayfied it may as well be proprietary thats why custom roms still go on.

>>106867866
edit: thanks for the gold kind stranger!

>>106867863
If you're a hardcore raider you need X3D because all those addons are in LUA and LUA only gets a huge speedup from increasing L3 or single core perf. since single core perf is stagnated the only thing left is L3.

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>>106867863
>>106867919

>>106867894
I want to be clear that I don't think that Gsync is inherently better simply because it was closed source bullshit. I'm saying it's because that they had a dedicated module which genuinely performed better than mediatek which is all any monitor maker uses. Freesync does the job and for cheap but without a better chip, it runs into a lot of issues.

I am literally just talking about a hardware difference. IIRC gsync modules ended up being Freesync compatible over the last few years so it didn't even matter anyways

>>106867893
to be fair i haven't tried war within but it ran fine even on my old 5800X in DF
>>106867919
no you don't
overclock your memory
>>106867925
both of these systems are getting terrible FPS

Why are Asrock the only people that don't disable sata ports if you populate all M2 slots ffs

>>106867952
there's zero chance that's true on all chipsets. Check the block diagrams

>>106867919
Not even just that, I play on warmane and have noticed how much better cities and WG run moving to 3D v cache. It's like Intel's old L4 cache.

>>106867979
did you really have FPS issues in 3.3.5 with your old rig lmao
i think i'm starting to understand what the experience of using a PC is like for your average /pcbg/ poster

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i want to ask bros
if i have 3080 ti
is it better to buy 7500F or 5700x3d ?
both are tray

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>fucking around on the Costco website
>see they sell gaming PCs
>ok it's just generic prebuilts
>find a custom builder link buried somehow
>some company called CLX, never heard of it
>first thing I see is a goth gamer girl playing on a goddamned OUIJA PC
what the fuck am I looking at

I also configured a high end PC just to see the price point. I haven't done the comparison but it seems ridiculous

>>106868057
Is goth GF included?

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upgraded to a 9800X3D, now i can finally play wrath of the lich king :D

>>106868057
they keep saying margins are bad in prebuilts but there are way more SIs than ever now

>>106868077
I just got flashbacks from playing WotLK on a single core Pentium 4.
10FPS in 25man raids.

>>106868057
She's cute.

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>>106868057
>>106868104
>>106868132
I don't think she's included at that price point but the margins can't possibly be bad for SIs. I didn't even add the custom bullshit like decals, new paintjob on the case, peripherals, etc. Shit is crazy, who is buying this? Streamers?

>>106868042
context matters
if starting from scratch am5

>get 9800x3d
>forget that mmos are back in the table
I should check out GW2 again, WvW with a 3d vcache cpu must be insaneo

>>106867764
>why would you buy a playstation CPU for your personal computer
To play games at triple the FPS and make retards like you seethe ;)

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>>106868057
$2600 for this
14900K and a 850W PSU with a 5070
5600 DDR5, and a budget ass PCIE 3.0 SSD
Beyond ridiculous its totally retarded

>>106868198
yes from stracth
first ever amd build i guess
been using i7 skylake and gtx 1060 since 2017

remember that it was never about value or price to performance for amdfags

an intel "fanboy" at least acknowledges when the other team has an objectively better product. that being said, if nova lake is good, i will be going back to intel.

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>>106868209
yeah but you get the OUIJA PC motherfucker that's like 500 bucks of value add right there

>>106868207
Make sure you use DXVK. Your CPU is bottlenecked in all MMOs if you don't use it. DirectX 11 sucks at multi thread and draw calls.

>>106866894
Why not go mATX?
Why not go SFF?

>>106868242
I am amd since dragon platform
Google amd dragon platform please

>>106868248
how could it possibly be the case that using a wrapper somehow removes CPU overhead. I'm not saying it's impossible I simply just cannot understand how that's a thing

>>106868245
still too expensive even if you remove the $500

>>106868208
you can do whatever you want with your money but you will be sodomized by 12 core CCD zen 6
>>106868242
it's exactly the same situation as when intel was pushing the 7700K back in 2017
the only difference is that techtubers are still cheering for AMD

>>106868268
oh I wasn't being serious about the OUIJA decal, anon. It's stupid as fuck all around. Carry on

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>>106868261
You're changing graphics APIs and the if you're not underaged you will remember that API wars were a thing and every old game let you select a API like OpenGL, Glide, DirectX, etc.

Vulkan is using better compiler and code than DirectX so it can process draw calls faster and without pausing the graphics renderer.

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>play game
>minimize it
>open browser
>close browser
>get back into game
>it stutters periodically until I restart the PC
How I FUCKING hate that even a smallest, tiniest motherfucking thing can ruin performance.

>>106868286
At least the game still works and you can save your progress, some games still crash if you alt tab away from them.

>>106868286
chromium and amd chipset drivers send their regards

>>106868286
Open resource monitor and look for rogue services or processes. Task manager is almost useless for this.

My PC suddenly turned off and won't turn back on.
It's a relatively brand new PC, built it around January.
I can't even remember all the specs, 4080 super and a bunch of other good parts. I'm stressed out and can't recall.
I cleaned it out, dusted it and stuff nice, and still nothing. I tried different outlets too. Nothing.
If I unplug the wire and plug it back in, then try turning the PC on, I hear the faintest possible little buzz, like one tiny "bzz" and that's it. What are the chances the PSU is just dead, and it's not like a motherboard thing. I don't have any spare fans to like, unplug my PSU, and plug in just a fan to my PSU to test it. I'm so stressed.

>>106868320
Does the motherboard light up or the fans? If you get no lights it's either dead Mobo or dead PSU.

>>106868320
relax
are there any lights on the motherboard
do fans spin at all
do you have a spare psu to test? if not, get one
if still nothing, get another mobo to test

>>106866894
>>Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.
well what motherboard do i buy then
why is there a whole autism website for SSDs but not motherboards they are far more complicated

>>106868042
7500F so you're on AM5 and can always upgrade to Zen 6 or Zen 7 in a few years if necessary. Plus you get faster DDR5 RAM.

>>106868337
asus, msi, gigabyte
they're all chinkium brands with the same awful customer support so you are screwed regardless, but at least your cpu has a lower chance if suddenly dying

>>106868261
You trade more GPU overhead for less CPU overhead. In various games this is well worth it the cost especially if you have a OP system.

>>106866894
I got filtered by PSUs. My PC uses 450w max and I have a 850 W PSU.
Offline, online, line-teractive, 'smart'. I am not sure what to get. My guess I that I need at least 1200 VA, but which type?

>>106868320
well my psu just died maybe it didn't want to go alone

>>106868357
i assume you mean ups
get something that matches your psu wattage
get a pure or simulated sine wave one
get something preferably from APC as they have incredible customer support (advanced RMAs)
never get a used ups

Do I need windows 11 for a 14600K

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