What does this quantitative loosening imply?

I want to die
hey /utwg/ hows it going on this Tuesday

are there any euros or thirdies in /utwg/ or is it all americans and canadians?

>>106889268
No thirdies are unemployed, the US spreads their cheeks for them freely

Alright so processes are added to the priority queue with a priority value and stored in a max heap where the root process has pointers to two processes with less priority and so on and so forth such that the tree is full (all nodes have two children besides possibly the last)?

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3pm, just woke up, got some food and coffee, time to grind

Does a top secret/SCI clearance basically guarantee employment forever?

>>106889401
the great turn around is coming I feel it

>>106889268
Yuropoor here
AMA me anything

>job listing lists employer as "Confidential"
Who applies to this fucking shit? If you're not willing to tell me what company it is, why would I have any reason to think the company would be trustworthy, reliable, or generally not insane?

Application question(s):

This role is based in Resolute Bay, NU with a rotation of 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, working 10 hours shifts per day. Are you comfortable with this schedule?

This position has been identified as safety sensitive role and will require successfully passing a pre-employment alcohol & drug test, fit-to-work medical test, criminal record check, and Government Security Clearance check. Do you have any concerns in passing these requirements?

What will the successful candidate bring to the table?

Minimum 5 years of occupational health and safety experience in an industrial undertaking.
For security clearance reasons successful candidate must hold either their Permanent Residency or Canadian Citizenship.
A completed degree or diploma in occupational health and safety.
The Canadian Registered Safety Profession (CRSP) or Certified Health and Safety Consultant (CHSC) would be a significant asset.
A NS Drivers’ License
Have working experience in the interpretation and application of OHS Acts and Regulations in the NS, NB, PE, NL and Canadian federal jurisdictions.
Have intermediary MS Office (Office 365) and some familiarity with an ERP.
Have been responsible for inspection, monitoring, and auditing as well as training and facilitation.
Understand the principles of adult education.
Have a firm understanding of the importance of documentation and data management.

>>106889268
I'm Brazilian...
/utwg/ hates me...

>>106889899
we only hate Indians

>>106889401
What you grinding bud just job apps or certs too? I try to put in ten - fifteen IT systems admin applications a day lol

Just six more sections today then project time.

Just 5 more rejections today then dinner

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Remember to take it easy from time to time, /utwg/. Nothing in this world is worth worrying too much over.

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>After careful consideration and review of your application, we have decided to progress with other candidates for this role. While we are not able to provide additional feedback or information about this decision, we would like to keep in touch regarding future job opportunities.

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Over-prepared and the interview went in a complete different direction than expected again.

I'm building a B2B SaaS in a very niche segment. 10 years experience as a dev, including CTO-level, but this shit job market is driving me nuts and I can't even get a contracting gig anymore.

Anyone else here who has taken the business-pill and decided to check out from the job market entirely? I'd rather make 100 cold-calls than put myself through one humiliating LeetCode interview again.

>>106890178
What did they do? Leetcode?

>>106890108
>alleviate your suffering by...
>thinking the only existence you've ever known is a prison
thank you but I would rather view this brief moment of consciousness as a gift

>>106890306
It was system design. I was expecting to go to a whiteboard, draw a bunch of components, explain the system HDL, decisions and trade-offs.
In reality it was just like 5 minutes of verbally explaining the system and the metrics it accomplished after its implementation.

Unemployed IT guy started working on production line and realised that's apart shitty shifts, time wasting on commuting to work, low salary etc. there are some good things like nice female colleagues and you start appreciate another things..

I had to work because no work no eat.
Moreover in the current times there is no point of wasting time on checking companies and adjusting CV etc.

And I think maybe I will decide on one product and improve coding...

That's my last comment and no more time wasting on 4chan.
Take an example of me.
Don't reply to this because I am not going to read... (It will be tempting to check)

God bless to you All (even the faggots, neets, black, whites.. )

If hash maps exist why do even binary searches exist? Why isn't everything just hash mapped? Is it because you need to write hash functions for them? Why not just like use the memory address of the key as the hash key or something?

>>106890662
How do you look up the key?

>>106890662
You can't easily do a range lookup in a hash table, such as "Fetch the key/value pairs between 5 and 20"

>>106890749
neat thanks

>>106890377
oofff...

>>106890662
>Why isn't everything just hash mapped?
Because you need to pay O(n) for the complexity of having every element.

>>106890911
*hashing

>>106890911
Yeah but now searching is O(1) instead of O(logn)

>>106889268
I'm chilean but I actually have a job and only come here to check how things are going

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>>106890972
That only matters if you're expected to do multiple searches which is not always necessarily the case.

Also, try solving this with hashing
https://leetcode.com/problems/koko-eating-bananas

>first round interview (recruiter)
>nail it
>second round interview (tier 2 security analysts)
>nail it
>third round interview (security managers)
>feel uncomfortable and self-conscious the entire time but still answer all questions well

Why does this happen?? Did I shit the bed? When will they tell me whether or not I got the job?? Are managers always burnt out or am I an unwitting social retard???

>>106891681
>three rounds of interviews
unless this is a fagman or f500 company they are just wasting your time, I have never heard anyone get a job from this bullshit

>>106891965
You've never heard of someone getting a job after going through three interviews?
Is that actually uncommon? Why would they waste my time? Literally makes no sense.

>>106891985
I've heard it but it's usually for Boston Consulting group, Microsoft or Facebook or McKinsey. If you were that good you'd never be in this thread.

All other jobs have 2 interviews. 1 technical and 1 recruiter.

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Should I get PhD or should I get an MBA?

>>106892097
you should unironically pivot to some other field
if I wasn't a useless autistic chudcel incel I would do the same

>>106892113
You can't pivot into other fields.

Also I already pivoted to this one from another field.
I ditched my field for computer science already. I have a degree in something else. Now they won't take me back.

>>106892091
This was a larger company but not Microsoft large.
If that's the case maybe I'll land it since I definitively did well on the first two interviews... right?

>>106892356
I did 4 rounds of interviews with google and still got rejected.

>>106892382
Are you Indian?

>>106892448
Nope

>>106892382
This year I had two 4 rounders and a 5 rounder. All rejections

>>106890296
Can I join you? Need some experience.

>>106892468
Well there you go.

>>106892482
Were they with bigger companies? Is what >>106892091 says accurate?

>had final interview yesterday
>no word today
COME ON
IT'S BEEN A MONTH OF INTERVIEWS

>>106889268
Chile here, everything is over

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Finally got back into my favorite routine of waking up past 6 pm and staying awake all night
the only part that sucks is all the messages I get from retards bothering me between 10am - 6 pm

ayyyy rejection emails

>>106889031
h1b is theft
> protest h1b
> fight h1b
> eliminate h1b
> get a tech job
> move out
> prosper

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>can write apps for my given language with enough time, I know most of the basics of memory management, stack layout, data storage / management, app lifecycle, networking + api calls, etc.
>also done dozens of leetcode problems
>but I've never actually taken a look through all of the documentation
>it's thousands of pages
>I keep learning new shit and I feel like It will take me years to get through it all and really understand what I'm doing
>At the same time I'm working on a project and applying for jobs
I've already had a job doing this shit and it went decently well but I still don't think I deserve to be working in this field with my limited knowledge, but then I look at the other people that are and I feel better about myself

>>106892711
>bigger companies
Nope all small to medium.

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Cryptobros, how are we faring? Still got enough to keep the lights on?

At what point do you just throw your resume away and accept a life of working poor wagieshit? At what point is your resume destroyed/expired?

>>106898119
one weekend off is all it takes

Do you bring a hidden recording device so you can review your interviews verbatim later?

>>106898507
P sure last time I got #jeeted so I’m for sure doing this next time, if there is a next time

>>106889031
Hopped into a .NET codebase. I don't understand shit without AI. All my contributions so far have been with GPT 5 or Claude. They are super technical and niche, like I look up its solution by looking at offical API docs or websites and I still don't understand it, but it does fix the bug I'm working on so it's not necessarily hallucinating a solution either. How did anyone develop without AI?

>>106889091
printing money by government to help the economy but just delaying it's problem by a few more years.

>>106898569
Also I should say, there are no books that actually explain this shit either. All the knowledge for this seems to be purely based on experience.

I have to work with another PhD student for a bit and the guy never stops fucking working, he's always messaging me to do work together in the evenings or weekends. What the fuck is wrong with people? We don't even have much to do

Is free online university CS degree a thing or a meme?

>>106898630
No such thing as a free lunch. Prepare to pay less than 6000 dollars though.
At this stage you're better off with an degree in quant.

>>106898617
You have an opportunity to see how hierarchical feudalism in academia has transformed a person into never stopping working machine. They do it as good as corporations or even better sometimes, a perfect slave worker who believes he's doing something exceptional and good for society. Professors and their PhD students often resemble masters and their slaves.

>>106898585
.Net is unironically one of the most thoroughly documented frameworks anonymous…

If during an interview they ask what you do in your spare time what do you tell them?

>>106898728
For complex projects it's not documented well enough. Too many high level architectural buzzwords with little focus on the code.

>>106898887
I'm referring to ASP.NET Core.

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it time

>>106898884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYlPhFj_3T0

>>106898884
Don't tell them about the missing children, is my advice.

>>106898645
>>106898968
i see you have a degree in Yapanese

So chatgpt suggested me to show in my resume when my degree is expected, so I added it.
Something like BS in Computer Engineering (expected early 2026).
I finished my studies in around late 2023 but still have my degree in tramit and I really hope I can get it by early 2026.
Isn't this limiting my chances a lot as every recruiter will think I'm not even a junior?
Not to mention: I started it in 2013 or so and because of reasons, couldn't finish the studies until 2023. Life happened. So I either lie about it, saying I started in 2019-2020, or I just don't show the year I started, or what? It's also a latin american degree.
This is a big mess, I don't know if I should follow chatgpt's advice. What do you guys think?

>>106898952
Don't they reject people for being overqualified? If you have like 5 years of programming experience you're too smart for McDonald's managers to hire right?
Sorry bro you're overqualified

>>106899183
Finished your studies but don't have your degree? I don't understand your circumstance. you've returned to school after a break and still aren't done?

I think generally putting on your resume that you will receive your degree very soon is fine, but hard to give specific advice when I can't even understand from this post wtf you mean

>>106899232
Well, it has to do with how degrees work in my country.
The basic idea is that we also go to university for 3-5 years depending on the degree. We only choose one area, we don't really have the concept of "major" or "minor", for us it's just a degree (or a major I guess).
Once you finish all the courses or subjects, you are an "intern" but not in the sense of the word for interns at companies. It just means you finished all your studies but don't have your degree yet.
You can get your degree if you had extraordinary grades, or by an exam, or most commonly, by writing a thesis and defending it. And that's when you actually get your degree and become, for example, "a computer engineer".
So in my case, I started my professional studies in 2013, life happened (money problems plus being a terrible student during the first half). Got gud, finished all the courses by 2023, but only started the tramits to get my degree this year.
I have some documents to transact, some payments to make, and so on, but I expect to finish the process this year and the degree will surely arrive in 2026.

>>106899291
Mexico? If you're applying for jobs in america, give up for the current administration and wait until the leftist swing that accepts you with open arms.
If applying for mexican jobs (or if I'm wrong in my assumption of your country) then I'd recommend putting your degree-obtaining date in your resume, but having strong projects/work experience above/before education (provided it's strong, which it ought to be if you're not wanting to sound inexperienced on your resume)
Once you get your degree, I'd omit dates going forward.

just had the most humiliating interview

>>106899214
How would they know you have years of made up experience if you don't tell them?

>>106899325
>Mexico?
Yeah
>give up for the current administration
Yeah chatgpt also told me that it would be valuable to add "Eligible for TN visa - no H1B sponsorship required" since apparently that's the kind of visa offered to mexicans, which is, somehow, better and easier to obtain that the one offered to indians.
I'm not informed at all about the H1B stuff that happened some weeks ago, so I wouldn't know.
Anyway, I'm honesty applying everywhere. México, America, Europe, remote, on-site, relocation, everything.
And yeah, thanks for the advice, I'll remove the dates once I get the degree.

>>106899404
What did they ask?

>>106899431
to make a calendar in react

>>106899440
And why was it humiliating? Did you fail?

>>106899611
yeah

>>106899657
Are you a new grad or how many years of experience.
I can imagine the cringe if you called yourself senior. But whatever, the recruiters probably see people struggling with dumb shit every day. You'll be forgotten soon.

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>4 rejections in a row
It's over

>>106899670
it was for a junior developer role

>>106895534
That's how it always is. I'm 15 years in and still feel like that. There's just too much for any person to know it all. If you've never deployed anything for real, there's even more stuff to learn like proper logging, authentication, cloud infrastructure, etc. Just take on problems as they come. At first they'll all be new and a struggle, then later only some of them will be. It will always be exhausting and make you feel retarded no matter what you do so just pace yourself and remember that everyone feels like this.

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Is it fine if I get a job where I drive around and rack servers or something. I don't want to be a dev

>>106900341
better off working at amazon warehouse. The jobs ur talking about pay 15 an hour.

>>106900341
No. IT is not Tech you retarded monkey.

>Are you currently in the application process with any other companies?
what's the correct response?

>see pajeet name on linkedin as job recruiter
>don't even bother applying to that position
it is all so tiresome...

>>106900477
the correct answer is yes.

>got to 5th round with a company in Feb
>rejected, no feedback
>got to 2nd round last week at that company for different role
>was supposed to talk to potential new boss and boss of similar team
>potential new boss didn't show, only talked to boss of other team
>rejected, feedback centered around skills for HER team
>skills/exp mentioned weren't on the job listing
It genuinely seems like I'll never get out

>>106889652
It's a retarded recruiter who doesn't want you going directly to the company's posting so the recruiter doesn't get their cut.

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>myworkdayjobs
why cant my account just be shared across all fucking companies. I am entering in the exact same fucking information AHHHHHHH
>you know, maybe this is a retard test and I should write a script to do this for me

>>106900581
I had an intervoew where the interviewer got really excited about me as a candidate, even gave me his contacts at the end etc.
this was the last question and I truthfully replied that I am but I'm a lot more aligned with their company than the other one
after that I got a weird feeling from him

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>>106900623
I don't get their coldness. The process is clearly in favor of the hiring companies so you HAVE to apply to many places and take what you can get. HR retard was maybe hoping he could lowball you on the low end range of the salary requirements thinking he had you by the balls or what?
I've had HR retards ask me the same question. The honest ones seem to want to know this to know if they need to hurry up with the process on their end (in case you ARE a good candidate) so they don't lose you to another company.
I think answering yes is the right way (whether it's true or not).

>>106900477
"No" suggests you're not desirable, have less salary negotation leverage and they don't need to hurry with you.
Since it's a stupid game of poker you should just say "Yes".

>>106900791
I assume something similar too
>>106900665
It was odd because I lead the last part of the interview with sharing how long my notice was at the company and we talked about my salary expectations too by the time the question was asked.
as I mentioned before the person was really enthusiastic and gave me tangible responses as well not just the usual word salad
I showed a lot of enthusiasm as well, so I'm not sure what happened.
I have to note though that it's a large tech company so they might process things slowly and I'm just overthinking it. it hasn't even been a week since the interview, it's just hard to take it because I really want to work for them

>>106900602
>5th round
Should've probably stopped at 2nd.

>>106900904
yeah, 5 interviews is a huge redflag for me
3 interviews is the max but at that point we should be discussing the specific job offer
I once spent so much time making a home project and taking part in 4 additional interviews for a company where even by the end they couldn't give me a starting date and then told me that they'd contact me later
some companies are ridiculous

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>still not a single interview
I guess my resume sucks and so does my github.

>>106901224
how do you fix a github page once it starts sucking?

>>106901224
Sorry bro you just have the ick. What is that? If you have to ask then you'll always have it, sorry.

>>106901240
you hide your shitty repositories and only upload good projects I suppose.

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>>106901243
pic related - me.

>>106901224
Same here.
I understand getting rejected, but how the fuck is it possible to not get a single interview in at least six months?
I have rewritten my resume twice this year ffs.

>>106901224
ive gotten one interview in 200 applications..

i dont feel good bros might just fire up doordash atp

>>106901524
>xhe thinks doordash is still hiring dashers
Bestie...

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>>106901922

>>106898884
Boxing, fitness, music.

>>106898884
rape

Legit job market is fucking cooked desi. Anyone got any book recs on starting with malware except for the red one with the baby ayylmao on the cover?

>>106901922
Wait is the Klarna bubble popping?

>>106902422
There's a waitlist in most cities to become a dasher currently

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I am this anon >106875123
They temporarily let me out of the warehouse

>constructor functions in classes are just constructor functions for objects but inside the class
>when you magically call all those cool methods on objects those methods come from the objects prototype, that's where they come from

This Maximilian guy is alright. I'll be employed in no time.

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>>106898884
Gardening. I know a lot about it from watching youtube videos. Interviewers are 99% of the time city slicker automatons so they won't be able to tell if you are bullshitting, unles you are incredibly dumb.

>applied two weeks ago to meta
>they still haven't rejected me
>but they've updated my application (can't see what they've done, either)

>creating new objects of a class by calling the constructor function from the prototype of an object of that class that already exists

Now he's gone too far.

>>106902648
I caught a huge ass toad in my backyard once (probably smaller than those) and it immediately shit all of its guts out and deflated while I was holding it, pretty funny

>get feedback from interview
>recruiter says I should've used a string set instead of a map[string]struct{} in Go for better memory efficiency
>???
Now it makes sense why companies chose not to give feedback and expose the incompetence of their own hiring team.

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>>106903015
xhey are right thoughbeit sets are more memory efficient than hashmaps since you're only storing one value instead of 2 per hash
uhhh
not that it matters because it would never be enough of an issue to cause any real problems on modern hardware...

>>106903102
There are no sets in Go, retard.
map[string]struct{} is the canonical way to represent a set and it doesn't store two values since the size of struct{} is 0.

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>>106903168
>There are no sets in Go, retard.

>>106903015
That is embarrassing. Wish there was a way to complain.

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it's not over yet. be an enthusiastic young man and you will stand out. everyone's jaded.

Gentlemen, I failed the OA yet again.

I fucking hate these assessments.

>>106903764
at least you are getting them doe.. you will pass one eventually

>do 20 interviews, some perfect some bad
>rejected from all
>finally ask a buddy to refer me to his company
>do poorly in interview
>get offer
The secret has always been nepotism. Bye guys.

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>>106903764
>pass both of them from IBM
>rejected
>realize IBM is a jeet-factory and my OA meant nothing anyways
Kind of annoying.
>>106903788
I don't consider it nepotism if the referral is competent tbqh. Doing your employer a favor of not having to sift through applicants who are lying their ass off just to get an interview. But yes the secret is networking.

Recruiter here, why are all of you so stupid? I forward resumes all day that promise they're rockstars at everything and then I get mean emails about how bad the applicants are. Why do all of you lie on your resume so much? Literally all I asked for was 5yoe experience with Windows XP and 3yoe experience with PHP 8.5.

Applicant here, why are recruiters so retarded? They keep forwarding resumes to HR retards instead of vetting candidates by themselves. No wonder they get emails about how bad the applicants are. Hell, they ask for experience on retarded, outdated crap and then tell candidates to stop lying on resumes.

building cyclotron impulse ramp railguns in dwarf fortress instead of putting out resumes

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i'm making a job tracker app for macOS to help me on my job hunt, and to practice my stack
the best feature?
it takes a screenshot of the webpage and stores it in your documents, so recruiters can't take down the listing and leave you with your dick hanging wondering what you applied for two months later
yes I know this exists but I want to practice

>>106904420
go for it anon! I built my own resume/cv tailoring app so those fucks can't filter me no matter how hard they try

>>106904004
use an IP filter. Eliminate jeets. Spam reduced 90%.

>>106904441
They're the only ones that have all of the Required qualifications, though.

>>106904452
oh well have fun then

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>the successful applicant must be constantly prepared for ordnance exchange

>>106889031
nah fuck this, they wont hire me anyway, im just going to spam millions of job applications across hundreds of platforms with ai custom generated shitposts.

fucking rats wasting my time, talk to the bot.

Is the reason I'm not getting jobs because i stopped laminating my resume ?

Why did they hire pajeets and not you?

>>106901224
Are you sure anyone is looking at your repo or if a human is even seeing your resume? Imagine my confusion when after 100+ applications I got an email saying someone visited my repo (me from another computer).

>>106903992
>I don't consider it nepotism if the referral is competent tbqh
I'm plenty competent but I have no motivation and I'm a piece of shit. I know I'm gonna get bored in a month or two and start doing everything I can to fuck off and do the minimum amount of work possible. I will not be worth my salary and I will not try.
So is it nepotism?

>>106905210
yes. u suck.

>>106905058
I cost way more and they don't care about their software actually working

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>>106905203
according to github metrics, almost no one is looking. 1 hit in the last two weeks. They even cloned one of my projects, at least. That was last friday. Sucks.

I'm having an interview for a devops role. I know like 80% of the technologies, except for monitoring stuff like prometheus and grafana. Are they "learn in a week" type of tools?

>>106905335
prometheus is pretty easy to learn to use.

>graduated years ago
>No job yet
>Can't into socialization very well
>Mind is like in slow motion when I have to use the brain
>Give off creepy/cringe vibes
>Not white
>Kinda hate nice people
>Not even technology intelligent
>I peaked my tech skills when young using win XP
>Ugly, I look rural
>Know about algorithms but never learnt one programming language profoundly
>Have days when I try to code but don't know what to code

This sucks. I can go on writing more reasons on why I can't get a job but I know it all is because being rural Mexican descended and a retard. I feel the ick when talking to nice people too like it feels like I should not talk to them or something. I imagine them saying all kind of racist stuff when they see me, it makes me double mad I hate my life

>>106906137
It won't help fix most of your problems but you should diet properly and exercise if you aren't already, I unironically recommend ozempic / mounjaro and a high protein diet.
If you can at least start getting into looksmaxxing and thin up and get some muscle on you, 95% of people will treat you better even if you are a spic. Lookism is real and just not being some fat coca cola goblin will make everyone more tolerant of you and help you go a looooong way.

>>106906222
I will try to exercise this weekend, thank you anonymous, I know I need a low carb high protein diet too.

>actually manage to get multiple interviews
>always get rejected anyway and passed off for another candidate despite my best efforts
I hate competing with so many fucking people, many of which probably weren’t even born here. It shouldn’t be like this…

I have to program a binary tree with insert and delete node and stuff. Should I look up how to program roooootaaaaaaate and how that actually works or can I just remake the whole tree from scratch when a node is deleted or inserted?

>>106906137
spicbro, at least you’re not a jeet

Getting drunk at lunchtime again

The only thing I've ever got for applying to jobs is rejection letters and an increase of spam calls

>>106890508
Unemployed principal dev here.
Same situation.
Starting work as a technician soon.
I will continue to waste time on 4chan as a public service to my former industry.
It is not the end of the world, it is the beginning of a new life.

Just "graph theory"? Not "node graph theory"?

>so (working backwards), you go to each node connected to the end node and assign the weight assigned to the edge connecting them to the connected nodes, then you do the same for all those nodes adding the weight of the edges connecting to new nodes to the weight assigned to the now middle nodes and assign that number to the new nodes. Then you look at ALL the nodes and find the node with the lowest weight and go from that node. If a node connected to a node already has a weight value but the new calculate weight value is lower you reassign the lesser weight to that node.

I guess I can just find the lowest weight shortest path between fucking anything now.

>>106908997
vertex graph sounds better

I'm making a porn game, I don't care anymore. I'm done with tech anyway

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>get rejected yesterday
>tried killing myself
>fail
>actually get an offer today
>significantly better than the job that made me try killing myself
There is still hope bros

>>106908132
If he were a jeet he would probably have a job tho

Are transferable skills just a meme nowadays? Can someone who previously worked as a dev start working as something like a systems engineer, business analyst or project manager? How the hell does someone even get into those roles?

Fuck dude I honestly thought I aced my dsa exam but I got an 84% and study.com doesn't show you the questions you got wrong (I can probably chock it up to ESL question writers). Aw well B means good. Now I just have to write a binary tree and string search using boyer-moore.

>>106909503
Not much about working has changed but interviewers expect you to have 4 years of experience doing high-level specialized work in whatever you're applying for.

>>106910222
it is extremely difficult even just to get an entry-level interview.

I have degree, 4 years of exp and i just got a rejection email from a field service tech job paying 20 an hour

lol

...

Damn we really need some ideas guys with mbas who can secure a business loan to take advantage of all this desperate highly experienced tech talent huh.

>>106910757
they'll just hire ranjeets until something is done at the legal level. gotta cut costs, after all. Product quality be damned.

I'm starting to realize my brain doesn't work in a way that is conducive to being a good at programming. I would be fine with being a mediocre developer and coasting but we're well past the ZIRP era that allowed people like me to hold jobs

>>106910770
Idk if you had a 100k business loan, the 4 best utw anons, and four months you don't think you could whip something up that brings in like 20k a month by the end of that period? That's only like 4k subscribers. 4 months. 4 anons. 4k subscribers. Final destination.

>>106910836
alright retards, some of us have been unemployed for four months. time to whip something up pro bono.
NO VIBE CODING

>>106908997
please redeem the pivot table

>>106910969
>pick niche out of a hat
>+ phone app
>???
>profit

>Baker's unlimited
>new recipes every week
>scans your local markets and creates a list for you for the recipe automatically with aisles and everything
>share with other baker's
>all the latest baking news
>baking leaderboards
>find other baker's near you

>>106911108
Just 5 dollars a month

how do you guys survive without an income?

>>106911202
my old job paid well + i made significant money on nvda, tsla, and a few other stocks.

>>106911278
define "significant money"

>>106911202
Live at home

>>106911278
in post split price terms I rode NVDA from $30 to $140 and made around $90k on it. Similar on TSLA since my average stock price is ~$240 and I put in a decent bag on it.
Rode SOFI from $10 to $22.
I'm not some investing whiz but I've been fortunate that these played out right as I quit my job and have been unemployed.

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>>106905203
>>106905303
Feels like you should have an 'are you a bot' filter on who actually clicks the link and then reward them if they are actually human.

>>106910717
Did they require a degree? If they didn’t then maybe leave it out of your resume

>Recruiter schedules call with me
>45 minutes before call: "Anon, I'm very sorry for the inconvenience"
>Reschedule call for today
>She doesn't call
I thought this one would be different because she personalized the initial message.

>>106911202
My money from my previous jobs kinda just piled up because my hobbies are cheap (goddamn I'm so happy I hate traveling) and like half my meals are Costco pizza.
Though I get VA gibs, so I do have a (small) income even while unemployed.

>>106911202
I live with my parents, and tbf i did even when I had a job but at least then I could help them pay the bills, now I’m just an unemployed bum and probably a failure in their eyes. I’m considering taking up a part time retail job just to cope and get out of the house more, but I also don’t want to kill my career

>>106911202
i rode for like 2-3 years on old military deployment money. they pay very well in my country

Tech interview in less than 24 hours and I barely prepared myself FFFFFFUCK
should I just leetcode all the way until the interview time?

>>106911394
Same. The shame of having to ask my mom every month to help pay for something is killing me.

>>106889031
>6 months unemployed with a master's degree and forced to get into shitty call centre job

>https://www.reddit.com/r/CallCenterWorkers/comments/1o621ot/leaving_call_center_job_advice/

Ah, this is my future as upcoming call centre sales rep I see.

>>106904004
Because you're retarded and do everything wrong. Asking X years of experience is how you let lying jeets thru. Instead you should be taking new grads and training them to be a senior, it's cheaper and there's already an expectation that they don't know what they're doing, but if you pick a good grad with a decent GPA they can learn fast.

could you guys have done this >>106899440

>>106911869
I know a decent amount of React but I generally need to refer to old work I've done when I'm starting something new. They wanted that done during the interview?

>>106904420
>and to practice my stack
what's your stack?

>>106911869
Before ChatGPT days? Probably if I applied for a React job. Nowadays? Just throw it into Claude lol. Seriously, these employers are asking too much. Basic knowledge of DSA, for loops etc.. should be all you need to nail an interview. As far as React goes, knowing your way around components, seeing how you code etc... It shouldn't take more than that.

>>106911952
It's getting crazy what people are asking for to work on their basic ass CRUD apps.

>>106911921
Yeah but I was allowed to google or use AI tools if I needed help with something. But wasn't allowed to prompt the AI to create the component entirely.

I didn't know anything about grids or the built in date() method in JS. I did manage to create the grid but couldn't figure out how to map the dates to the grid. It was the wrong approach anyway.

>>106911952
but there will always be another applicant who knows more than the basic stuff and it would make sense to hire them over you. I would do the same if I was on the other side.

>>106911973
>But wasn't allowed to prompt the AI to create the component entirely.

Not even a blueprint?

That's like saying
>Don't use tools at your arsenal and pretend it's 2019

>>106912017
I think it was to test my skill level but they did say they use AI for development. It's probably better if your vibecoder still has a decent understanding of what's happening.

>>106912003
Knowing more doesn't immediately imply competence. Like if you sat us both down and asked us to work with the same level of knowledge, on a particular app, testing our ability to write good code given scenarios, if he can outperform me then he knows more. But that is not what a knowledge test would cover.

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>7 years of expirience
>Laid off almost 3 years ago
>Hundreds of applications with no interviews
>Lost apartment after savings ran out
>Gf left because she don't want a brokie
>Living at my parents the last two years
Honestly just gonna kill myself at this point bros

>>106912416
>7 years experience
what the fuck!

>>106912416
what roles are you applying too? and are you tracking your applications ive heard people not getting interviews for 200-300 apps or two at 380 etc so keep applying i guess

90% of posters ITT without jobs are codemonkeys. there are plenty of IT jobs out there but codemonkeys are just too stupid and arrogant to learn skills employers actually want

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Well, I had to think and shit, but ultimately I was able to do something insanely cool. Dewey Decimal can fuck himself I am the principal of finding, give me the number and I will find it immediately.

>>106912485
mainly QA since I have a lot of test automation expirience so I figure I can hit the ground running with any job like that but I can't get the time of day from anyone
my previous role had me starting as QA but moved me to front-end and eventually full-stack webdev as other team members quit

https://fortune.com/2025/10/16/verizon-chief-talent-officer-tells-unemployed-gen-z-millennials-volunteer-unpaid-to-stand-out-no-ones-going-to-say-no-to-free-work-career-advice-unemployment/

Have you tried working for free /utwg/?

man I kinda wish java had console.log or var_dump or something so I could figure out if my code works or not

>>106912728
>HR roasty telling people to work for free
and yet it doesn't say that she's ever hired anyone in her career who put down free work as experience.

>>106912756
print statements. enjoy.

>>106911108
I wouldn't pay for a grocery store TSP. Or maybe it's a Chinese postman. Unicorn apps are always about facilitating illegal transactions, which in this case would be rating, vetting and selling food that's prepared in a household kitchen with pictures of what the food becomes.

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Soon-to-be-unemployed here. Is quitting my job at this time of year a bad idea? I'm insanely underpaid so i'm basically throwing money away every month I keep working here but it took me 50 applications to get this job a few years ago and the thought of going through all that again worries me

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Being able to find things instantly is like literally a thing Gods do though? (I added 8 to the array btw)

So glad I didn't just go with:

<code>
public BinaryTree createSevenNodeTree()
{
BinaryTree sevenNodeTree = new BinaryTree();
sevenNodeTree.root = new Node(4);
sevenNodeTree.root.left = new Node(2);
sevenNodeTree.root.right = new Node(6);
sevenNodeTree.root.left.left = new Node(1);
sevenNodeTree.root.left.right = new Node(3);
sevenNodeTree.root.right.left = new Node(5);
sevenNodeTree.root.right.right = new Node(7);

return sevenNodeTree;
}
</code>

Now if I can't figure out rebalancing I can just remake the whole tree and still get a passing grade.

>>106913127
lol 50 applications haha

>>106913127
hang on to your job for dear life, dont leave until you have something else lined up, market is F U C K E D nonny

>>106913127
most people here wish they were in your position. being underpaid is better than being non-paid.

how are all these zoomers getting FANG internships in undergrad and return offers wtf

>>106913127
50 appliations?? AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAH

Bro keep your job tight, you are not ready for Trump's job market.

>>106913249
>>106913250
>>106913575
>>106913761
Is it really that bad? I've been thinking about getting out of tech altogether, maybe now's the time

Any backup plan if job never secured?

>>106913792
>>106889401

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>>106913792
It's worse than you think
Me 2021:
>1 year out of college
>Shit resume with clashing formatting and shit listed from high school
>Applied to four jobs I was kind of qualified for, wrote a cover letter for one and blew off the other one that required a cover letter
>Offered a job by all besides the one I wrote a cover letter for after 0-2 interviews

Me now:
>~100 ish applications
>5? cover letters
>5 months into seriously searching for a job
>Zero interviews save for two that changed the job description to something completely different
>One of them asked me to reply to a noreply email address and said the job was actually in person in an extremely expensive suburb despite being listed as remote
>Ghosted by recruiters I talked to in person
>80% of applications didn't even send rejection emails before august, now it's more like 60%
EE with 5YoE and niche skills that are allegedly in demand if job postings are to be believed btw

>>106898569
Get owned slopsucker
>>106913802
Defect to the DPRK

Hello , unemplooy IT worker genaral, am John Lopez

Looking for work ? Good pay ! Fast soon , and no work ! I Do work You get 40$%!


email: john@nk. nk

>>106914000
>John Lopez
more like ragsheet singh poopootard

based OP
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1760664494603739.mp4

fuck it bros should i make a youtube channel

>>106914358
what would it be about?

>>106914387
programming shit as a vtuber. voice changer and all.

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>>106914399
use an animeified ebassi as your avatar lmao

12 hours until tech interview.
Should I review algorithms, stupid "explain a linked list" shit or just leetcode?

>>106912581
If you aren't already in the industry no one will even look at your resume or your github or whatever you'd use to demonstrate that you have learnt what the employer wants you to have learnt.

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At this point I feel like I could have limitless motivation/willpower and it still wouldn't get me hired. Like I could study 110 hours a week, reach Neo or Mr. Robot levels of computer skill, and no company would give a fuck because the job market is shit and I give them the ick or something.

I regret not counting the number of applications I've sent out in the past year. I guess I can start now.

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>target salary question with no range posted

>>106900622
humiliation ritual
>I AM NOT A VETERAN
>I AM NOT DISABLED
>I AM NOT HISPANIC OR LATINO

I think I should suicide for good.

>>106915212
It's completely at the whim of the interviewer. My last interview was "given a list of packet sizes, calculate the minimum MTU to configure to transfer then in a t time horizon". Basically, if they like you, you'll get in, and if they don't, you won't.

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>>106915647
>>I AM NOT HISPANIC OR LATINO
I am

>>106913792
what will you do?

>>106916328
how to come off as likeable?

>>106917142
frankly at this point i'm probably going to tell my boss i want a 10k raise or i'm walking (he needs me as much as i need him, we're a very small company) and if he calls my bluff i'll move back in with my family while i grind job apps
going to see if i need training to become a welder or something

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>>106902878
Poopoo peepee meme didn't come out of nowhere

What are some non-tech or non-IC roles we could see ourselves getting into?

Product/program/project management?

>>106912416
>Laid off almost 3 years ago
What do you even say in that case when they ask why you've been unemployed for 3 years?

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I have one technical interview and a first contact interview (by a department lead) lined up next week for 2 different companies in internship roles, they even gave me the questions I'd be asked for the technical interview ahead of time. If all of those fail I still have a zero hours contract offer confirmed from a third company.

I guess wagmi?

companies should receive a bonus from the government for every former neet or career track changer they take in. only DEI that makes sense.

>>106916328
You want to know that one, you just ping the destination with different packet sizes until it says it doesn't need to be fragmented then add 28 for header.

can a nigga get a job?

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What the FUCK is this for, it's a devops role for god's sake
Am I too low IQ and this is a test in itself? jfc

>>106918366
I hate these type of questions

>>106918366
I actually have a story for this lmao

>>106917395
I tell them mostly the truth, that I took a few months off to recover from burnout, and another few months to study up while helping out my mother during her cancer treatment, then when I started to look for a job in earnest the market had turned from Covid-era "give anyone with a pulse a job" to the current "nobody gets a job without an advanced degree and personal recommendation from the CTO" which has left me high and dry for the past two years
Its fudging the timeline a bit, and I don't go into all the financial fuckery that went down with my severance, unrecieved bonus I was (verbally) promised, or unemployment office issues that led to me not getting paid out for almost a year

>>106918366
What like climbing a fence?

>>106918366
what type of role are you applying for? lmao
pentest? cybersec? wtf

>>106918630
devops/sre

>>106918366
these people must feel like gods having full control over the decision to make or break someone's livelihood. it's all a joke to them.

>senior php developer position
>8 yoe required
>$30-50k a year
How did things get this bad for web dev?

>>106919019
>entry level java dev
>masters degree required
>50-60k
i dont know what these fuckers are playing at but i dont like it

>full stack position
>exp with frontend framework such as react, vue, angular or similar
>node backend
Does nextjs fulfill the conditions or I'm being retarded?

Is there any way to recover from a 7 year employment gap on your resume or am I permanently unemployable now?

>>106919299
just lie nigga

>>106919319
How? They're going to verify if I really worked somewhere and for how long I worked there, so I can't lie about that. The best thing I can think of is say that I was a freelancer for the past 7 years, but then they'll probably want to know what clients I worked for and see some projects I worked on.

>>106919299
what were you doing?

>>106919353
Being a neet and living off crypto. But in about 6 months I'll have run out of it and have literally $0 in assets left, except a house worth about $250k that I can sell and move into an apartment, which will only buy me another 7 years at best. But that's just kicking the can down the road and probably making me even more unemployable in the long run.

>>106919342
>they'll probably want to know what clients I worked for
say you're under NDA

>>106919395
you are dumb as fuck, that's excellent material for a resume
>Crypto Trader | Self-Employed
>2017 – 2025
>Actively traded a diversified portfolio of cryptocurrencies, including BTC, ETH, and emerging altcoins, across major exchanges such as Binance, Coinbase, etc.
>Conducted fundamental and technical analysis using tools like X, Y, and market sentiment indicators to identify high-probability setups.
>Documented performance metrics, trade rationale, and lessons learned to refine discipline, emotional control, and data-driven decision-making.
>Implemented algorithmic trading experiments using Z language and API integrations for backtesting and automated order execution.


there, now add some modern tech mumbo jumbo buzzwords to fill it out like how much you made through crypto for impact or some dumb shit like "I used AI driven solutions..." nonsense for trading or automation and you are gonna get someone interested

>>106919577
How does any of that experience relate to dev work? All my prior jobs were in webdev. I didn't do any of the shit you described anyway. I just got lucky and bought crypto right before it took off. In fact every time I actively tried to trade, I only lost money. At one point I had 25 btc worth of crypto and I could've been a millionaire today if I hadn't lost most of it trading shitcoins back in 2017-2019.

>>106919642
you could mark off those years as freelance. a lot of startups don't do background checks

>>106919686
Will they care if I don't have any projects to show in the last 7 years since my last job?

>>106919642
bro companies don't give 2 shits they just want people that can make money, if you were able to live off crypto for 7 years that means that you know how to interpret data and make smart choices, you don't need to tell them you just lucked out during the initial bullrun

just
make
shit
up

everyone is doing it, you just need a convincing lie, study some blockchain for a few months and say you are an expert in web3 shit or something

>pre order
<code>preOrderNodes.add(node);
preOrderHelper(node.left, preOrderNodes);
preOrderHelper(node.right, preOrderNodes);</code>
>in order
<code>inOrderHelper(node.left, inOrderNodes);
inOrderNodes.add(node);
inOrderHelper(node.right, inOrderNodes);</code>
>post order
<code>postOrderHelper(node.left, postOrderNodes);
postOrderHelper(node.right, postOrderNodes);
postOrderNodes.add(node);</code>

Bros... why would you ever want anything but in order? Actually I just googled it preorder is for copying and prefixes, postorder is for deleting and suffixes and in order is in order.

how do i make the white code box desu?

```
System.out.println("R");
for (i = 0; i < 1; i--)
{
System.out.println("E");
}
```

Oh it's square brackets

Take care of the dollars and the pennies literally don't matter that's what I always say and is what's literally true.

The assignment says binary search tree not avl or black red tree so I can just rebuild the whole tree to balance?

Tech interview in 30 min
I feel like I'm gonna puke

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>>106903587
yeah, be enthusiastic enough to talk about your 5 years of non-stop experience for entry level jobs
it will work out soon!

>>106920610
good luck

What do i do i have experience working job as language X but posting have Y?

>>106920610
>I feel like I'm gonna puke
Cover your hands with something then go and use a tree as a punch bag. Violence is always the solution.

>>106915647
So. fucking. annoying.

>>106915647
I hate this dei bullshit so much

>MUST HAVE RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION
why is it my problem if the company refuses to have an office on a bus route?

>>106920739
>>106920636
>>106920610
That wasn't that bad...but he said there will be a new tech interview next week, 2 hrs duration.
Live coding, whiteboard and coding questions
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

>>106900602
>5th round
Were you interviewing for a C-suite position, holy moly

>>106900622
That shit pisses me off to no end. IT'S ON THE SAME FUCKING WEBSITE

>>106915647
If it makes you feel better I hit
>Protected veteran
>Disability
>Two or more races (not Hispanic or latino tho)
and I've had one interview since July. Market's fucked yo.

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My unemployability meter just decreased.

>>106923825
Do the needful and learn C# instead of wasting your time on an outdated jeet language.

>>106923544
5 round is standard now

>>106923544
>>106923954
I think mine is 5 rounds as well
>HR
>Tech
>Take-home assignment
>Tech
>Culture(???)

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>>106889031
What's your jobseeking stack?
>LinkedIn
>Indeed
>2 local job posting sites
>walking into random businesses and asking if they're hiring
And yet, my interview cherry remains unpopped.
>>106889268
I'm Israeli, but I still consider myself a thirdie.

>>106924302
I've never walked into a place, I have to work on the phone screens personally my resume has gotten a fair amount of bites at 10 YOE

Currently unemployed and dreaming about exiting the industry when my unemployment insurance runs out

>>106924302
ClearanceJobs

>>106890972
lookup is O(1). searching for ordered element (what std::lower_bound does) is O(n). different animals

>>106924302
>linkedin: past week only
>wellfound: I like it. good UI and jobs I don't see sometimes elsewhere
>Glassdoor: It's like Linkedin again but their UI is better
I wish you could block entire companies on LinkedIn. I'm tired of seeing posts by "DataAnnotation" and other bigname bodyshops or recruiting companies that flood the job listings.
I used to use Indeed but I felt like I rarely saw positions that made sense with what I searched.

>Thanks for the interview we had earlier today. Based on what we heard from you, we decided to move you up to the next step in our pipeline, which is a technical test. I have scheduled an email with the details to be sent later tonight; the deadline will be Sunday end of day. As soon as you receive the email, do let us know if you have any questions.
He sent that 4 hours ago...

>>106925248
Anon, the test is seeing how long it takes you to realize he didn't send anything else.

>>106925248
Well, he said he has a scheduled email setup! The night isn't over!

would you accept a hybrid/on-site job instead of a fully remote one?

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>>106925265
>hybrid
yes.
>100% onsite
idk man. I'm not that desperate yet.

>>106908884
>Unemployed principal dev here


Bro wtf how are you unemployed as a principal ?? You made the cut experience wise, just take a lower salary OR a senior role

>>106918547
im sorry to hear that about your mom bro

What will /utwg/ do once their parents die?

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>>106925349
get an engineering degree and give up on tech

>>106925248
>thank you. I'll be awaiting your email and let you know once I have it
that's it

>>106925349
I have no clue desu

>>106925257
>>106925260
aaaaaaa
>>106925434
I replied with something like that a while ago. Still nothing. If I get one of these
>Oh sorry we mistakenly sent you an email saying you advanced on the recruiting process!
I might honestly end it all

>>106925670
It just arrived, thankfully...
motherfucker scheduled it for fucking midnight

Do any of you guys write software in your spare time to keep up with the skills you learned? Or to even make a "portfolio" no HR roastie will ever look at?
I haven't done much since graduating. Thinking of making some projects. I just don't know what. Maybe I'll go balls deep into game development.

>>106926334
>Maybe I'll go balls deep into game development.
Only do that if you want to do it for yourself.
Getting a job in gamedev is fucking HELL right now

>>106926400
Oh it would be. I know full well working in gamedev is hell if you decide to join a well known company.

>>106926334
yes. Crappy little full-stack CRUD projects. One actual software project I'm adding to bit by bit.
Shit sucks :/

>>106926422
>CRUD
Heard these are good skills to learn at least. I can barely get myself to do anything.

>>106926422
what's your setup? like os/ide/stack?
>shit sucks
Why?