Hi-res editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>106891936
eq guide won
>>106900548we literally can't stop winning lol
driver quality wonhttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/395011860_Evaluating_the_Effectiveness_of_Virtual_Listening_Tests_for_Balanced_Armature_Headphone_Drivers
/iemg/ Dogma Check Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:>Crinacle is not your priest.Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.>Harman ≠ perfect.It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.Great value, yes. Immune to qc issues and hype cycles? Nah.>Graphs are not sound.They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.>Loud posts =/= smart takes.Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink. also don't read eq guide. nobody does.
>>106900571Chatgpt lost.
>>106900565More like it lost super fucking hard.
>>106900565THD won, buy chu 2 now.
Imagine ignoring every explanation you were given and delude yourself that you won.We had THD discussion immediately when driver quality was brought up.
>>106900588EA500LM better driver quality tho
>>106900605based on what
>>106900613Localizability, transient fidelity, and LF impulse fidelity.
>>106900640meaningless terms
>>106900648It's too advanced for eqtards.
Driver quality is in the faceplate.
$5 shitbuds won
>>106900683>black cable>GFCwhat's happened to the fox cable bro?
>>106900679show lm distortion
>>106900701these are old, mr fengru always has the dates in filename bitch
3D sound achievedhttps://youtu.be/pNpAxkTlvWk
>>106900478>>106900565Here's actual FR of momentum.It does not have a gigantic bass falloff after 100Hz. So not only their pos had 16% thd it also had leakage they did not control for at all.
>>106900679Meaningless metrics that have nothing to do with LM in the first place.
>>106900613I mean he's not wrong. if chu 2 performed like ea500lm, it would be known by now. and rated higher, on multiple lists. but it's not.
eq guide is the most elegantly crafted piece of literature to ever come out of a 4chan general thread. my life is better for it and i even think my penis grew in size since reading it.
>>106900858lmao kys dawg
>>1069007012023 happened. There are 4 fox cables, I want the middle one with volume buttons but no luck so far. I might try soldering them to the spare cable but it's risky.
>>106900831It's almost like IEM ratings are not based on THD or something...
>>106900831those lists do not rate driver quality.
>AES peer-reviewed paper is meaninglessScience is failing, innit?
>>106901172Yes. The EQ guide is light years ahead of science from the mere fact it gives you insertion depth dependent filters.
>>106900949>>106901156it's almost like people hear the difference between cheapo shit and quality
>>106901206they literally don't check the study on preference wrt nonlinearity, nobody cares unless it's egregious
>>106901206No correlation between price and sound quality was found. For THD there's a correlation, an inverse one.
>No correlation between price and sound quality was found>the metric is adherence to harman targetLOL. LMAO.
>>106901206since when
>>106901258harman target for headpos is a good one tho
>>106901259since people put them in their ears and listened
>>106901206>it's almost like people hear Lol.
>>106900531Yo tourist here, hope this is the right threadNeed advice for soundbar>Budget 300€ (EU based)>Intended use (media, source, environment) Home speakers for TV. Want a more immersive soundscape for all the nerd music I listen to, especially when consuming consiousness elixirs. Bass should be decent. But also for everyday use, like watching series.>Frequency response preference and music examples idk about frequencyGenres are Techno/Trance, ProgRock, Power Metal and Stoner Metal.https://youtu.be/AXpDTv2ct5o?si=-fHaXz8sNbH8WWKyhttps://youtu.be/r8-mF4l-07o?si=kXgiSTdpzGd7Qvlihttps://youtu.be/EBKUU0Mneb8?si=6wKWnFsH9H8yc2I_https://youtu.be/ugEsDL5fZcA?si=ZiMQPP1_jh8lItr->Past gear and your thoughts on them Only regular small JBL flip boxes. No experience with Hifi systems.
>>106901277being a trained listener isn't the flex you think it is.
>>106901287You don't even know what the training is about, your opinion on it doesn't matter.
>>106901274Is this your new angle after getting btfo so much?
>>106900640>>106900679these metrics are not about driver quality>>106901206...but LM is cheapo shit...
>>106901294>I'm the only one who knows a trained listener is reaching HTL level 8 on peaks and dips!!!
>>106901379>reviewers fail this simple task!
>>106901333>but LM is cheapo shit.you never heard it.
>>106901287being both untrained and uneducated isn't the flex you think it is
>>106901395Pure ass.
>>106901404assuming too much isn't the flex you think it is
>>106901279sorry, currently in a civil war, might be better to ask dmp or somethingalso, even if anyone answers, audiotards hate soundbars, you should ask elsewhere desu
>>106901395I know it's price tho? which makes it cheapo shit.What makes you think I want to hear overly bright garbage with dipped mids in the first place?
>>106901409pure sex. I bet you won't take a photo of you breaking it. since it's so ass and all.
>>106901258>doesn't know about MDAQSoh no no no
>>106901415I'm not assuming anything
>>106901425>What makes you think I want to hear overly bright garbagewho told you to do anything? lol do what you want
>>106901395Your used preclogged filter stacked driver swapped with edc pro frankenstein of an LM is unrelated to how real LM sounds.
>try out q1 pro>ear rape>try out 500lm>ear rapeback to bnuuy
>>106901443holy delusion. are you okay?
>>106901461>he doesn't know
>>106901258LM is literally 2019IE
all ba pos are so annoying to use, can't believe they have fit dependent channel imbalance across the whole range, fml
>>106901416why do audioturds hate soundbars?
>>106901495no proper acoustic advantagesthey are slim, fit nicely with surrounding decors, and get loud enough, these are their advantages
>>106901452real
>>106901393It is actually far more pathetic. The task was giving the same speaker the same score. Not knowing how peaks sound makes you not know how speakers sound, crazy but true.
>>106901452>im going from a bright pos to another zingy poswhy is iemg like this
>>106901452q1 pro is more or less ea500lm on a budget
>>106901821in your wildest dreams.
>>106901821>more or lessMore.
>>106901856I mean worse but similar tonality, basically if you can't afford LM you buy q1 pro
what iem do i get if all the ones ive tried so far get uncomfortable after a while because of the nozzles being large?
>>106901880ER2XR, they have tiny nozzles
>>106901880which ones did you try?
>>106901917Truthear Pure and Juzear Defiant
>>106901923>pure 6.2mm lip>defiant 6.2 mm lipherehttps://nozzledb.com/look up something with smaller nozzles. also maybe try softer eartips like moondrop springtips
>>106901869if you can't get an LM and still want obvious good imaging you can notice, TKZK Ouranos is a way better value than EPZ. by far.
>>106901880final e500 to try out a bullet
>>106902014our/anus/ was ahead of its time
>>106902025simply another gem. harman tuning, but it's basically a T3+ and great for gaming, for noticeable reasons. I really want to see what all the fuss is about with the Aoshida E20 now
@editorzo, why isn't it in the mega?
I have $1,100 Amazon credit and I'm thinking about getting a new pair of IEMs.
>>106902080Still debating whether I should get this in paper or digitally.Either way I won't get it anytime soon.
>>106902133>I won't get it anytime soon.why?
PEQdB 3D is so much better than meta omg. i can pinpoint everything now, JustMud-1 everything is underwater
>>106902153I much prefer digital versions of books, but I'm not sure how the eBook will be formatted. If I do get it in paper, there will be some delays between me getting the book and having the time to scan and format everything into a clean PDF. At that point I would rather wait until a PDF version floats around instead of doing all of this work for a small section on headphones and IEMs as far as changes go.
eqtards with their $5 shitbuds still winning
>>106902014>imaging>look inside >FR
>>106902263this. turns out you can eq planar into dd and vice versa
While I'm here, I am working on updating some parts of the guide. Not exactly sure, but maybe some head tracking article soon, and more in the Myths and Misconceptions page. If you have any topic you want covered in the latter, let me know.Oh, and I'm curating the October AES papers, will post when they are available.
>>106902263you're telling me generic harman enhances imaging? because that'd be incorrect.
>>106902321because i can buy crinear instead
>>106902296very important suggestion: make the EQ Guide actually useful
>>106902193shut the fuck up jeet nobody cares
>>106902296wow more stuff for nobody to read, nobody must be super psyched
>>106902499Open to suggestions, what would you do to make it better?
>>106902193Yep its good.
>>106902754>>106902193buy an adand a toilet
>>106902760Plenty of toilets at Stanford
>>106902792every street is a toilet for jeets
>>106902296October AES papers are now available.https://mega.nz/folder/NU4yySJL#IR7oFrPvnAJBoQ8uW2HxwQ
>>106901409>that smooth plastic ear hookMakes KZ look like a luxury brand. I can't stand the non braided ones, they hurt my ears>>106901452Fits well but makes the ear canal feel "warm" in a really disturbing way.It really feels high quality but hard to listen to.The Gate is just a better version of Harman, it has just enough bass but feels more balanced and doesn't have any weird peaks. I haven't consistently liked any IEM this much since the Blon BL05. They need a better cable, fully braided should be the standard.
Sound test tonight boys and girls. KZ ZS12 pro X. I have it paired to my EPZ TP50 dongle. It sounds ok so far.. perhaps its a bit thin on mids and treble owing to its BA config but I sorta like it. I'm currently giving it a drunk test. Is it worth the $50 to $60 USD? Time will tell.
So far I'm digging how rob zombie sounds on it.. the KZ ZS12x that is.I like the two low swtiches down and two high switches up.
On the KZ ZS12x separation is great. Nice big wide soundstage..
I can tell ya one thing about the KZ ZS12 pro. The cord stinks when its brand new.. I thought my phones battery was about to catch fire or something.. nope it was just my new iems wires off gassing chemicals. Eventually this passed. It no longer smells bad.
Truthear Gate looks flimsy af. Would it survive being a daily driver?
>>106903747no
What happened to the gatezo who used to compare every pos to tri flange Gatos?
Final impressions: KZ ZS12 pro. Its detailed not loud.Its certainly good for gaming. Separation is handy there. The soundstage is big. I'm gonna be using this for some battle royale fps gaming for sure.For music its just meh. I do like the big soundstage and separation. On the otherhand the mids and treble are less impactfull. . I sorta prefer my single DD sets for this. All in all the the KZ ZA12 pro gets a 7 out of 10 from me.
>>106903941could've just posted all in one go, nobody cares about your blog post if you don't bring anything worthwhile to the table
>>106903957But it took awhile.. yes I like my blog post.. still listening to this set btw. I'm reaching for a DD set if I can manage to find it. Its still better than what you did nigger https://youtu.be/MZjAantupsA?si=VNsBjefCi7DuXpv3
>>106904077you should take a while to organize your thoughts and post them all in one go instead of going on and on like a homeless fent fiend
>>106904099The only thing I'm on is a bunch of miller lites, cigs and and a heart of gold.
>>106901923Fiio FH3 (5.5mm lip).
On Friday (God willing), I will receive the Ziigaat Doscinco that I ordered a month ago from Ali, based on the recommendation from ChatGPT. Let's see if OpenAI knows what they're doing or not.
>>106904207you realize sam altman is gonna die in a plane accident right
>>106904255Why? Isn't he jewish?
This is totally unrelated. I might get banned for this but whatever. I've been banned before https://youtu.be/iWa-6g-TbgI?si=2_54iFUvezt-cvqq
>>106904280so were soviet commissars but they still purged them. either way he's obv the fall guy after the AI bubble pops in a year or two
>>106904336thoroughly enjoyed it on my PRX, thanks
for me it's the PR2 connected to xzp
IEMs are a solved hobby.
>>106900531Looking for a nice non-android PMP for listening to flacs with gapless playback. I've been looking at buying the shanling m1+ or the hiby r3 II. Have any of you anons tried either? Or which pmp would you recommend instead? >Budget $200>Intended use (media, source, environment) Locally stored music in predominantly flac formats. Does not need access to wifi or streaming. Bluetooth is not a priority but would be an added plus>Frequency response preference and music examples I'm kind of a retard with this sort of thing so I'm not entirely sure, but I'd prefer a more analytical flat sound rather than v shaped. >Past gear and your thoughts on themOwned an Aigo Eros Q (rebranded clone of hifiman walker h2) for 2 months before the headphone jack started having issues where I'd lose audio in one ear if the plug was jiggled at all. Really liked the form factor of it and rockbox worked great on it but the hardware clearly didn't go through very strenuous quality control testing. Looking for a nice quality pmp that will last longer and have less issues.
Never pay more than 5 bucks for a shitbud.
>>106903747I completely submerged them in the pool, the drivers were completely soaked and they still sound fine. I don't think they have any serious issues, but the stock cable needs braided ear hooks. The wyvern Qing sucked so I used the cable off of those.
ngl chu2 is my second favorite $5 shitbud, it barely needs EQ after you fix the treble peak. it's not like the usual $5 shitbuds like zero2, edx pro, ruta10, etc. that need a ton of work put into them
>>106904485They are because the pricier IEMs have to be objectively worse to stand out from the cheaper ones. Same with amps and DACs.
>>106905297True. Price is inversely correlated with quality.
>>106903787This one >>106521027 ?Or were there other flangezos.
>>106900605500LM, more like 500LLM.
>>106905297I think this is true once you get up to kilobuck sets. But those for $300 or $500 tends to be a lot better than $20 sets.Of course there are still some great kilobucks. Aful Dawn X looks terrific and so do Alpha Omega Omega etc.
>>106905584>lookswow audiophiles can hear an IEM just by looking
>>106905599By looking at graphs and looking at/reading reviews, yes.
>>106901273it is, a pleasant mild V-shape>>106901467with added midbass warmth, which balances out the brightness nicely
>>106905976that's not the point
>>106900679but what about rotational velocidensity
>>106906632Only BA pos have it, avoid.
>>106905348Sounds much less convincing when you post that slop
The purpose of Iem is not to enjoy music. It's to analyze the sound in the most detailed way. It's not for pleasure. It's for work. It's the same as saying you like to read a technical book for fun. Pathetic
>>106905348Look at all that metal and plastic trash.
What's stopping vibe coders from making a PEQdB clone?
>>106906995this but unironically. if you want to enjoy music, that's what speakers are for. IEMs are an alone-in-your-room incel kind of thing
Can someone help me please?I have a moondrop may, and i used the app (moondrop link) to apply eq. I used a preset. Then the config would get saved on the cable and that was it.A few days ago the cable stopped working, the new one came in today and the iems sound so bad without the app eq. But the app doesnt recognize the new cable so i cant apply it.I also cant see the settings that i used to use, because the app doesnt see the iems.Anyone know how can i access that? And apply it with some other app?
bro needs proprietary software/hardware to eq
>>106907774>he got moondroppedmy condolences.did you get original moondrop cable? message them then
>>106905599>>106905615They were always 2 sides of the same coin.
>>106906737edc pro isn't slop, chu2 isn't slop, castor isn't slop, pr2 isn't slop, vx pro+ isn't slop, st7 isn't slop, cvj luki is slop actually, krilla isn't slop, waner sg isn't slop, st1 isn't slopyou're slopread the eq guide newfriend
>>106908147everything you own is slop
>>106908152>t. multi-driver owner
>>106908163nigga you own multi drivers
>>106908163i wonder if multidriver pos buyers are on the other side of the eqtard coin... it's not adding up to me though
>>106902684make it comprehensible for a sub-21 IQ intbecile because that's what guides are for, to hold someone's hand during his journey and make stuff clearotherwise it'd be better to just make a website with links to research you use as a reference, since the guide is just as cryptic as the research itself and it's better to read it at the source, making the guide pointless
>>106902684Don't listen to any suggestions. Infact, archived the eq guide rn to preserve the perfection.
>>106908185true it is perfect as it is, any changes means people might read it which would defeat the whole purpose
>>106908178EQ guide is already a handhold my nigga. The problem is literacy. Once they can read, they'll stop using peqdb and squig. It's a large language barrier to overcome compared to Hindi and they learn the poorest of the broken pidgin English known to subman.
>>106908196i think you are confused, anybody can read the eq guide but nobody does because its simply not worth reading. hope this helps
>>106908176the only relation is they're less afraid to buy and listen compared to the other coin who listen with their eyes and wallets
>>106908213Then why do browns love peqdb and hate understanding the time domain so much? Is this a genetic quality instead of a language barrier issue?
>>106908229nobody hates anything, hating something would require reading it and nobody has ever read the eq guide
Recs for some wireless buds for the gym, around $150ish?
>>106908259kz az09
>>106908237Reading comprehension, brownzo. He said browns hate understanding the time domain. They avoid everything that explains it, including the guide.
>>106908372everybody avoids the guide
>>106908382because everybody is brown
>>106908390and thus, the eq guide remains unread
>>106908449at last i truly see
imagine thinking a $5 shitbud can offer transient fidelity after EQ
>>106908512finally, someone who gets it.
>>106908512is transient fidelity in the room with us right now
Decades of head-fi research and none of them localized "driver quality" beyond marketing claims
>>106908178How would you make it more comprehensible?
>>106909014Hire an Indian to rewrite it so that it can be readable sir
https://youtu.be/ecfscZzIS9M?t=2704:29just accept it
>>106909266what would be the next upgrade from it?
>>106907774Moondrop's DSP implementations thus far have been poor with shoddy quality and should be avoided. Return all that crap if you can.
>>106909266argument from authority? patheticand not somebody but dumb deaf faggot? nice oneWhy are you so adamant on talking about 500LM driver quality when you can't define it, can't show any measurements about it, can't quantify it. You literally can't say anything to make this conversation in any way meaningful. So why?Nobody gives a fuck about simgot or their obsolete pos. It's time to move on.
>>106909424nta, but cope and seethe harder
>>106909424Its just parroting of NGGAR shilling simgot "driver quality" based on his personal opinion, which by itself most likely comes from the marketing materials claiming the superiority based on Magnesium driver dome or something. Yet it doesn't seem to translate to real life in any reasonable manner. I haven't seen any evidence of lower THD values compared to similar or even cheaper models. The treble response is also on the peakier side compared to other 1DDs, so I am not buying this argument either.
Still no measurement that points to driver quality, except for THD apparently, which makes the Chu 2 the most technical IEM there is.Chuzo, you were right all along.
>24 spare aftermarket cablesI need to buy more pos and more cables
>>106909398I hear you but i dont care, sorry. I liked it the way it was. Just want to listen to my music.Do you know where i can find the .txt for the profiles thats mentioned in the image you posted? So i can load them in some other app. Thanks
>>106909665what was the profile? you can probably find all of the settings online
>>106909683I dont quite know what to search for, ive never tinkered with this stuff outside of the appI dont even remember the profile name, probably would if i saw the complete list, but the app wont even let me see that
disgusting looking pos
>no evidencethey keep ignoring the Transient fidelity and Rise time differences when EQ'd to the same FR from a peer-reviewed AES paper
>>106909793this goes hard ngl. just saw the trn logo so im finna be accused of being a shill now
>>106908932How about driver quality in speakers? Is there a difference in the drivers between $20 PC speakers and $20,000 floor speakers? Or is it just the difference in size?
>>106909588THD is a function of FR. Your tuning and EQ decides how much THD you have.
>>106910123anyone can DIY speakers right now
>>106910123speakers are much more limited by distortion and room acoustics, both of which are not even at play with iemsif you want good spl output and good directivity, you'll have to pay a decent amount, but even then you can diy some speakers that outperform most of what is on the market for like $300
>>106910131THD is not literally a function of FR in the physical or mathematical sense and one doesn’t directly determine the other. You can’t “EQ away” distortion once it’s produced.
>>106910202>high pass everything below 300hz>no more distortioncheckmate
>>106910202With IEMs it is. You're just tuning or EQing it until it distorts.
>>106910123quality and implementation is the difference.
>>106910209that doesn't solve your distortion
Tuning is just hardware EQ. Do you really need to rice your tips, dampening foam, etc. when you can just move some bars?
>>106910225>high pass everything below 20khz>no more distortioncheckmate #2
>>106910209High-passing below 300 Hz doesn’t ‘remove distortion,’ it just removes the frequencies where most distortion occurs. That’s like muting the problem, not solving it. You’re reducing driver excursion, not improving its linearity.If you high-pass everything below 300 Hz you also high-pass half the music. Congrats, zero distortion and zero low end.All that does is stop the driver from working where distortion happens most, it’s not eliminating distortion, it’s eliminating bass. Different thing entirely.game over.
>>106910213>implementationaka enclosure. matters a lot with headpos and speakerpos. IEMs just require a seal and EQ, so it makes sense that IEM users will argue about "driver quality" that doesn't actually exist because there's nothing else to argue about.
>>106910245>admits THD is FRthank god someone here isn't retarded
a lot of this thread is just buyer's remorse over a $5 shitbud (out of many) outperforming their westslop
>>106910312 hu 2 isn't $5 SEA faggtfo with your coins, this shit doesn't work worldwide
>>106910312Of all the mega cheap pos I have, the chu 2 is on the lower end of good things, probably my second worst onesomething about the bass doesn't hold up, and the ear gain is a bit much
>>106910269well you're wrong.
>>106910338you're wrong.liar.
>>106910329>>106910333$15-20 (before coupon) is still "$5 shitbud"https://www.aliexpress.us/w/wholesale-moondrop-chu-ii.html
>>106909934What's transient fidelity?How "rise time" was measured?
>needs to ask instead of readingdumbfuck
>>106910131The dumbest ITT post award.>>106910209Raise the volume by 50dB after that and you'll still have bass distortion. And clipping is just the most severe form of distortion. There's inherent distortion that is constant at every volume. But that's mostly a BA pos problem.
>>106910202>You can’t “EQ away” distortion once it’s produced.hmm you can actuallydon't worry about it tho well not EQ but you can lower distortion
>>106910312pretty much loltho I like my daybreaks they are cool and comfy (and not metal)
>>106910460you haven't even read the paper so you can't say where they explain how they took the measurement lmao
>you can lower distortion in a passive posThe dumbest ITT post award.
>>106909934Brother you literally have no idea what any of these means and chatGPT won't tell you. Quit larping
>>106910509you're the one asking like a dumbfuck
>>106910514just lower the volume lol EZ solved
>>106910499>he bought the ugly versionYikes!
>>106910526What does this even mean? Asking questions is a good thing. Since when it's bad lol?Just say that you don't know yourself. It's not that hard.
>>106910478>put volume to 0%>no more distortioncheckmate #3
>>106910550lol daybreaks look much better than whatever the fuck this is.Sorry I don't care about faceplates that much
fuck me bros, i need a pos with recessed connectors that doesn't sound like shitand no tanchjims, got too many of those
>>106910566>>106910539>lower the volume>SINAD decreases Uh oh stinky.>>106910571Anon you literally have "cringe ear" written on your IEMs.
>>106910525uh oh melty! might stop reading senile olive and you'll understand Impulse fidelity and Rise time
>>106910585ask chatgpt how they measured rise time and impulse fidelity
>>106910590>"Good catch! You were right to call me out on that!"lol
>>106910577Use case for recessed connectors?
>>106910612better rigidity and all my cables are protruded
@grok why are most of the senile olive papers not peer-reviewed?
>>106910577Use case for pos that doesn't sound like shit?
>>106910623enjoying my brown noise
>>106910623enjoying it?
>>106910582>Anon you literally have "cringe ear" written on your IEMs.yet it's less cringe than some cringe ugly mascots
>>106910795it's a custom faceplate you slow ass scratching orangutanput whatever you want on that
>>106910585You have no reading comprehension lol. How do you know german fucks who made this (very poor) research are less senile than olive? It's not like he was the only one working at harman. You are just being reductive simply because you do not have any arguments.I literally showed you THD of momentums. It is not 16%. They used weirdo BROKEN POS as a replicator. Just that alone can disqualify their paper. They didn't use mics to validate fit and seal. It was specifically called out in harman's paper as a downside of previous virtualization attempts.They show additional measurement of phase and "rise time" but do not show their methodology. They use terminology without any definitions. It's weird as fuck paper. Much lower quality than what harman did.
>>106910607can't make this shit up
>grok, anons on le4chin are bullying me and i don't know how to beat them, can you please help me please please saar i need help
>>106910621peer-review is not everything.shit at least should be published at some decent journal with high impact to be at least somewhat trustworthy. Otherwise you need to read shit and use your brain to understand if paper is good or not.. which you clearly can't do... And chatGPT can't tell you either cause it's even more stupid.
>>106910832I know? I literally told you I don't care much about faceplates. You used cringe ugly garbage as an example. At least show something good looking.
Chu2 won.
I'd like to apologize to Moondrop owners on their 4th pair of Chu2s. You're all kings.
Never forget what they did to CDSPzo.RIP buddy, I know your ears are in heaven enjoying tinnitus-free audio.
>>106910874>peer-review is not everything.LOL>published at some decent journalESL! nigger didn't even check it's from aes lmaoooo
>>106911080embarrassing
shit is peer reviewed by flies maybe you should eat some
Lads, please advise.I love my Tanchjim Tanyas, but I keep fucking breaking em. Accidentally drove my most recent set at way too high a volume and one side is permanently damaged.Anyway, see that "bullet" style that doesn't go around the ear, a regular ass earphone right, what are the best options there?Aiming for comfort (aka, easy to put on and take off without this wrapping around the ear fuckery) and quality of course.Thanks
>>106911080sigh...>The 2024 impact factor of AES: Journal of the Audio Engineering Society is 1.105.>A "good" impact factor is relative to the field, but a factor of 10 or higher is generally considered excellent, while 3 is often seen as good. You really don't get it do you...
lol his tanchjim pulled a hifiman
>>106911125tanchjim onewill sound and fit different
>>106905524there was another one, who drew graphs by hand to show his sound impressions. he even posted these in the gato thread at asr. we flangezos found our endgame, shitposted for a while, and then left this place
>>106911413>we flangezos found our endgame, shitposted for a while, and then left this placefuck you doing here then?
>>106907543I agree with that. But I just can't deal with the fact that my neighbors or other people in my house are going to listen to what I'm listening and will probably get annoyed by it
>>106911484I usually blast some Johnny Rebel every morning desu
>>106911125Any bullet shaped iem without the removable cables will break because the re is virtually no strain relief. So your only real choices are Tanchjim One, or the Hzsound waist drum (look at the squig.link FR on this one, I haven't tried it). The ED9 pro doesn't have a removable cable, but does seem to not have this issue as badly as the original ED9, which was quite fragile.
is the tanchjim force even worth it??
>>106911631does hydro have big melons? no? so it's not worth it
>>106911774if by big melons you mean 2DD, then yes. if you meant anime slop, sorry
>>106911631cca is already stealth revised
>>106912208*stealth improved
>>106912208proof?
>>106912215if ur deaf
>>106911291I'll add it to the list thanks>>106911624>Hzsound waist drumgood shout nice price toothat's a detachable cable right? much less likely to break this one then>ED9 pro wow that's cheapthanks both, got three on the list
>>106912215trvthnvke
>>106911484>But I just can't deal with the fact that my neighbors or other people in my house are going to listen to what I'm listening and will probably get annoyed by itNow that's a white man. Based.
>>106912461brimstone
My EDC Pro with a bit of EQ sound pretty much the same as the Hype 4 except for some treble oddities that I was too lazy to match between both. Bass and vocal clarity is pretty much identical, though the EDC Pro has a bit more body which I prefer.Somehow, I feel like the Hype 4 are more comfortable overall, not jiving with the overly smooth and bulbous shell of the EDC Pro.
$5 shitbud alert
$5 shitbud alert #2
$5 shitbud alert #3
>>106912555>Somehow, I feel like the Hype 4 are more comfortable overallI can believe that.
shut up rat
>>106912208>>106912239bump for proof. >>106912241back up your claim asshole
>>106912792
>>106912803right. enabler him.
hey rat your gpt is malfunctioning
>>106912825enable** I'm stoned
>>106912791>implyinig i wouldnt eat thatit's bulk season my niggas
>>106912830usecase for spending more than $5 on a shitbud?
>>106912892Fox.
driver quality niggas gangsta til the edc pro eqtard shows up
>>106912914pretty damn sure that's a cat dumbass
Psychosis General
>>106912936IEMs are solved, the psychosis is ending.
eq guide still winningsomehow
>>106913147never been read award
I'M EQING FUCKING EDC PRO AND NOBODY CAN STOP
>>106913189nobody has read it thoughever
>>106913233nobody cares shitskin
>>106912914The Gate keeper.
>>106913665*sleeper
>>106913233based
I had forgotten how good it is to listen to music without a pice of rubber stuck into my ear hole
>>106909793This trigger my fear of trypophobia
Space Travel 2 tots?
>>106914068Yeah on ears produce the best sound, no doubt. They beat over ears by quite a margin.Too bad you gotta be in a completely quiet environment for them to work. And in that case you might as well use speakers.
shoutout to the shopping and eq guides, goats of iemg
>>106912926all cats are
>>106914068The treble is so bad on these. And the bass. Everything really.
>>106912694is that open or just a really big vent.
>>106912555KZ shells are fucking terrible, the main reason to avoid them.
Which KZ iem should I get if I only care about bass? I have ATH-M50X headphones, but sometimes I just want to listen to music and enjoy the bass even if it doesn't sound accurate as it does on studio headphones. What aliexpress IEM should I get if I like bass that is under $50?
>>106916322Kbear rosefinch.
>>106916355Thanks. I'm about to purchase one,they all seem to run usb c though. What kind f cables should I be looking for? Is the ST12 good? It seems to be the only thing that comes up. I'm just looking for something with no mic.
Wow, Truthear Pure's bass is actually good! It has heft, note weight and texture, which in Hexa was quite weak. It still has the swift subbass of the Hexa, but the midbass steals the show.
>>106912914>fox pos with cat (gato in spanish)>>106913665>fox cub with gato (cat in english) poswtf is going on with this cultural exchange?
>>106916497Isnt that just golden retriever pup?
>>106916528I don't know if it engages in any retrieval activities, but it looks like a fox, probably from Russia
>>106916488no mud?
>>106916322edc pro
https://youtu.be/t_TzR8cpc18?t=644blud casually proves that headphones (and by extension IEMs) are minimum phase devices bringing resounding defeat to gptzo once again...cahtGPT lost...
>>106916907Minimum phase is a red herring. It doesn't matter neither mathematically nor practically. Mathematically because you can freely convert between minimum phase and mixed phase. Practically because we can't hear phase.
>>106916785>but the midbass steals the show.Just mud.
>>106917084Also I figured out what the fuck IRzo was kvetching about. He thought that when an IEM has a crossover its IR is unpredictable at different insertion depths. In reality the crossover's contribution is constant. Once you fix that the IEM behaves like minumum phase IEMs at all insertion depths.
>>106917084I agree but this is related to nonsensical argument about driver quality. Which retard well lost again.>>106917161lol I dunno if he ever thought deeply about anything. He doesn't answer question so you'd either get some vague bullshit or straight up chatGPT answer.Why the fuck is he even bringing crossover up when we haven't even finished with 1DDs and their driver quality lol. Shit is so irrelevant to anything...
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