How to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>106917522
EQ guide won.Again.And again.
>>106925298more lies. as usual.
EQ guide so good it makes everyone seethe.
/iemg/ Dogma Check Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:>Crinacle is not your priest.Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.>Harman ≠ perfect.It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.Great value, yes. Immune to qc issues and hype cycles? Nah.>Graphs are not sound.They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.>Loud posts =/= smart takes.Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.
>>106925243>can you repeat that but in actual numbers instead? how POS with at least 75 dB/mW efficiency translates into needing "more power"?75dB/mW means it’s 20dB less sensitive than something like a 94dB/mW set.every 10dB= 10× power, so to get the same loudness you need over 50× more juice.100dB on the 94dB set equals like 4mW. on the 75dB one it's over 300mW.
>>106925273As an owner of the EPZ Q1 Pro for gaming and the Xenns Mangird Tea Pro for music, is it worth spending £149 for the Crinear Daybreak for listening to music? I am looking for a $100-200 IEM, then I can take a rest from this space for a couple of years.
>>106925368what are you basing this claim on?600mw will push it to like 100+ dBno like literally what the fuck are you even talking about?It's not for loudness. Even if you still listen at low volume, you need the 600mw because it allows the planar yo fully open up its sound.
>>106925410What's wrong with the Tea Pro?
>>106925420>you need the 600mw because it allows the planar yo fully open up its sound.you don't need over half a watt for that.
>>106925410what is your objective since you plan to downgrade for music listening?
>>106925401I doubt its efficiency is actually 75 btw it's probably 94 (fuckers did not specify and I'm too lazy to actually look it up)yeah but something a bit more sane like 80 dB will only need 3mW...and for sure this thing doesn't need fucking 600mW...
>>106925420>It's not for loudness. Even if you still listen at low volume, you need the 600mw because it allows the planar yo fully open up its sound.you can't shove 600mw into a pos with resistance of 15 om and not make it loud as fuck...
>>106925424>>106925439Tea Pro sounds fantastic and well worth the price, but I want something else that's fun to drive with my Shanling M5 Ultra (https://en.shanling.com/product/451) on different days.
eqtards still undefeated
>>106925410>is it worth spending £149 for the Crinear Daybreak for listening to musicno?also just use tea pro for everything
>>106925457I mean... daybreaks are great but I don't see why get them when you already have tea pro...
>>106925457just use eq
>>106925457Artti T10 Pro for that planar sheen.
>EQ guide won
>>10692544075dB was just an example. even if it’s 80dB, that’s still over 10dB below 94dB/mW, which means 20× more power for the same loudness.no pos needs 600mW.
>>106925472There's no PEQ on the Shanling.
Chartfags will literally spam 8 unrelated graphs and claim they've "won" their retarded claim. EQ won.
>>106925457if you already spent top dollar on a pos, going cheaper for the sake of music listening will just put you on a hunt for different tuning. save your time and money and just eq your Xenns.
>>106925495>pr2 graphs and TDH measurements are unrelated to pr2what did he mean by that?
>>106925499Can't EQ on a Shanling.Besides, it's more fun to buy new sets.
>>106925460>also just use tea pro for everythingI can't. The shell has quality control issues; the black coating scratches off with just a fingernail. That's why I continue to use the Q1 Pro every day, especially for videos and gaming.>>106925470Tea Pro has quality control issues. I don't know how to resolve if I'm using them all the time>>106925472>>106925499Not possible on MTouch
tea pro...has been...moon...dropped...
>watching the aspergers unfold with full trust in eq guide law
>>106925528just go for it then. 3 pos isn't that bad as far as consooomerism. daybreaks are solid
Just got my Rosefinch btw. It's a pleasant surprise like with Chu2. Looking forward to EQing it
>>106925568your photo and the string of words in your post indicate you're a sociopath
>>106925581you sound like a faggot
>>106925568what a horrible collection
>>106925568>rosefinch>pleasant surprise>pleasantThe only surprise is that real 8khz peak on a overwhelmingly bassy set, so attempting to EQ it with a treble shelf filter will make it comical.
>>106924917
>>106925815oh look, more dogma
>>106925528So what bitch? Afraid to use your own shit?
>>106926054Settle down chud. If you have a solution to prevent the coating from peeling off, I'm all ears. Actually, be helpful, instead of insisting on attacking me
>>106926074Read a post on Reddit earlier about Top Pros breaking after two months. So guess all Xenns shit is bad in terms of durability.
>>106926074There's only one solution; peel it all off. And improve it's looks in the process
>>106926083Disappointing>>106926085I'm rather not. There has to be a type of paint I can use to coat it or repair the peeled areas. I don't know if I even want to go there
>>106925273Closest thing for mic buying advice I can seeLooking to buy decent but cheap (£20~) microphone. Fine looking to the second hand market.Any recs?
>>106925568You're are not EQing anything deafzo.
>>106925420>Even if you still listen at low volume, you need the 600mw because it allows the planar yo fully open up its sound.You are so fucking stupid goddamn.
E-waste
graph fortunetellers need to hear IEMs with their eyes because of their profound hearing loss, which is why they can't EQ treble peaks by ear. it all makes sense now
>ignored 5% THD again award
>claims to hear THD by ear>cannot find a treble peak without hearing machine and eyeshearing loss. just like audiophiles, they hear what they see
>>106928402...you don't make sense. if it's hearing loss treble peaks wouldn't matter... cause they'd be inaudible
>>106928402>inventing a contradiction when there is noneYou can't hear THD because you can't hear anything. You put shit in your ears and hallucinate... something. Sometimes it's treble peaks that you used to be able to hear 20 years ago. And you're definitely not EQing them.
600mW for an IEM that needs 30 at most. Claims he can "hear" treble peaks. Hilarious.
boughtednow need waifu engraved pos
>>106928648Why not printed.
>if I can't see it I can't hear itTwo sides of the same hearing loss coin.
>>106928655Works too, good idea. Does EPZ offer that on Ali?
>>106928408>>106928445>[vision-based auditory hallucination noises]
>>106928669Yes.
>>106925501>>106925581>>106927130>>106928256>>106928461Oh look, another retard who didn't read the EQ guide.
>>106928671>>106928684Deaf.
>>106928676Checking out, danke
>>106928694You can customize most of their IEMs, even if it doesn't look like it(p50). Just ask the seller.
>>106928689>hearing lossoh boy another chart for me, I hope it's actually related or relevant unlike the last 8
>>106928684did EQ guide tell you that planar needs 600mw of power?
>>106928719For you it's only hearing loss. It's over.
>>106928723No, he personally needs 600mW, boosted treble and 10% THD to excite his few remaining hair cells.
So far the argument is>chart of an IEM not even from the same manufacturer>charts that are 2 revisions late>chart of a random headpos>chart of a sequel IEM>I heard it because I saw a chart>I don't have $15>i won u lostDid I miss anything? I'm keeping a list of graphtard schizophrenia.
>>106928740You miss hearing.
>>106928746I accept your concession.
>guys I definitely EQ by ear even though I don't have any EQ installed
>>106928701Sent them a message. Any specific recs? I usually prefer a warmer sound but I guess something new couldn't hurt.
>>106928864All their offerings lean bright. p50 is neutral. Just EQ. In software or with a peq dongle.
>>106928900Alright sounds good, thanks anon.
Poorfags hate this $5 shitbud.
$5 shitbud alert
>>106929215*in your shitholealiexpress deals aren't the same worldwide
>>106929371it's USD and america is a shithole but i get what you're struggling to say
>>106929371>coin sectionDoes he know?
>>106929430don't spoodfeed them yet, i'm not done letting them expose how vaccine-injured they are
If it were worth buying it wouldn't have a discount.
>>106929429so what? that doesn't mean anything as you can change the currency on the top bar, and you gotta be miserable to collect coins to save a few bucks, typical 3rdie behavior
>>106925568Crazy to think all of this is entirely obsoleted by bunny DSP.
>>106929618it is crazy to think because it's a bullshit statement.
>>106929987Do some research next time anon.
>>106930016or just tell me how that trash mogs all that other trash. you know, back your words.
$5 shitbuds won.
>>106930277more bullshit lies. take your propaganda elsewhere.
>>106928767nobody here eqs
>>106930286are you lost? this hobby is about EQing $5 shitbuds.
>>106930505>>106930389
daybreak or simgot SM4 for next purchase?
>>106930816daybreak, crin needs to eat
>>106930816I have both and I'd say daybreak.
>>106930406
>>106930979
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>>106931093>>>/csg/IEMG is for rich fellas.
I just stopped caring. I used eq on my Cmf buds 2 and now they sound neutral to me. Maybe I'll switch to a 31 band eq and keep tinkering. Couldn't find anything else that sounded good for ~30 euro besides moondrop space travel 2 that I didn't want
>>106932318what kind of Q-factor do these filters have?
NoEQs forever mad.
>>106932422No idea, it's symfonium built it eq. It should be around 1.3-1.5
>>106925352Eq guide so bad thar the creator needs to keep reaffirming himself in hopes someday ir becomes the truth (it won't)
>>106925568Embarrassing pic
ITT: "Where they buy and they sell and they sell all their trash"
where's the speakers general
/iemg/ warning, DO NOT BUY DAYBREAK>loose two-pin connections and capsthey had to use a 2-part glue for newer units and tell owners of bad batches to superglue it themselves. >random channel death/one side diesshitty PCB pressing against the two-pin connection, breaking wires. they had to redesign an entirely new PCB for new batches.>Daybreak only shines with KBear coffee tips even though the pos comes with a whole set of tips. >current improvementsnew tip color and short wide-bore tips lol.
>>106932826I'm not seeing any reason to not buy daybreak? now that they fixed everything and added coffee tips you actually should buy it
>>106932867>inexperienced manufacturer learning as they go.I'm good. besides, we stopped paying for tuning years ago.
>>106932826Buy a custom p50 instead :3
fellas, my clip plus finally died and the shopping guide for this thread only goes to 50 USD, and that product is $100 CAD. Is there a comfy small option for ~20 or less? I don't need something that plays flac perfectly, just something that is as comfy as the ipod nano I had in 2006 would be nice.
>>106932826>Daybreak only shines with KBear coffee tips
EQ guide wins by default.
>>106934005>trans jeet opiniondiscarded
>>106932572embarrassing hobby
>EQ guide wins by default.
imagine the inner peace they could achieve if only they had embraced EQ
>>106934223inner peace.
Are any of the over $1000 DAPs worth the money? I just want something that won't shit the bed in 2-3 years
>>106934963>won't shit the bed in 2-3 years>DAPbro...
>>106934977bro...
>>106935066nigga...
>>106932894what site offers that?
>>106935089aliexpress. message the epz store.
>>106934963Even $200+ DAPs will last a long time. Now is a bad time to buy a DAP since manufacturers are finally releasing models with better CPUs than the shitty ancient SD665/660 chipset. Currently only the Fiio M21/JM21 have a newer chip, but in 6 months I'd imagine there will be more options.
>>106935160is it just those pair or do they do it on any of their products?
>>106925273Crinear Daybreak conclusions:-bloated-recessed vocals-diminished techs
>>106935074>>106935182Thanks my niggas
I think I found the ideal method, it's repeatable, quick, and very easy to implement and use.There are flaws, especially at higher leakages, but it should cover most bases.I'll have to see the behavior on different IEMs and drivers to check if the leakage conditions are representative enough to point out differences in leak tolerance, but this seems promising.
>>106935357test highly vented pos like twilight or illustrious
Tanchjim Origin good or nah?
these worth it? tried the Tanchjim Echo's and moondrop Robins and wasnt impressed nor were they comfortable. Tanchjim Echo was comfortable but had battery issues so I returned them. need to know if EPZ is it, main use case would be for sleeping with music or a video playing. I just want to be able to lay my head on my pillow and not have them dig into my ears
>>106935581forgot pic
>>106935512Best I can do is the Origin.>>106935546They are fine, the biggest issues you'll face is comfort. Distance from nozzle to faceplate is long, the pieces themselves are heavy, the nozzle is quite large, and the IEM will be reliant on the ear tip and cable.I have some impressions in the gazette, you can also just search Origin and see what other anons have to sayhttps://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/
>>106935238said nobody ever
I wish there were IEMs with 50db noise reduction.
