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>>106926847I can tell that the tilde is mod color and it's pissing me the fuck off
>>106926862Yeah I don't really get that either. Putting mod color on pipe or tilde is full retard and so many kits are doing it now
>>106926877Why do people hate basic aesthetics? Having a gap between tab and esc is dumb.
>>106926862>>106926877Sheer fucking autism.
>>106926847Perhaps that's why it got canceled. Looks like a hobo board with the mod color tilde. Boom
>>106927004Mod colors express mod functionality, which is why they are disgusting on characters like tilde, pipe, and spacebar, which input characters as the alphas do.
>>106927126Why aren't you complaining about the two tone F keys as well, then.
>>106927167The rules are different for the f-row and the numpad. On the f-row, alternating clusters make them easier to distinguish visually, and it's just an old convention which is by this point well entrenched. The physical separation from the alpha cluster is what makes it acceptable that it plays by different rules, but if some take issue with this I understand that point of view, obviously.On the numpad, the numbers are distinct from operators, which are treated as they would work on e.g. a calculator, which is ofc more comparable to mods than to alphas
>>106927192The mental gymnastics you have to go through to say "okay well these aesthetic changes are fine but I DRAW THE LINE AT TILDE!" is comical.
>>106927240Listen man you can make your keyboard as ugly as you want it's your keyboard, I'm sorry if it upsets you that I and others think you're a tasteless retard with no respect for agreement between visuals and function, but you're not going to change my mind by accusing me of "mental gymnastics" lol
>>106927260But, neither are you. You excuse non mod keys being colored like mod keys when they're on the numpad, and you excuse mod keys being colored like alpha keys when they're in the F row.If your complaint was "I prefer the aesthetics when tilde pipe and space aren't mod colored", then that would've been fine. Instead you tried to make it into a functional issue, which is retarded. I prefer when they're mod colored, makes the board look like a smiley face.
>>106927293I will leave it to neutral third parties to make up their minds for themselves who is the idiot in this exchange.
The F-row is separate from the main cluster, and they're literally function keys, not alphanumerics. So breaking them up both spacing-wise and visually makes sense, since having a line of 12 very similar looking keys in a row would lead to the user searching for the right key, which would be less efficient. In the main cluster mods being one color, and the alphanumerics being another makes sense. If you want a mod colored tilde or pipe key just for visual symmetry that's fine, but it breaks the convention of why those keys are colored the way they are.
>>106927355Maybe next GMK should start making mod color 1 in all their sets so that these "aesthetic symmetry enjoyers" can break the unity of the numrow in order to perfectly mirror the color of 2u backspace. I wonder if that's a bridge too far even for them. Although I think Gay-for-GMK Tommy Two-Intros would do it in a heartbeat
>>106927192bet you volunteered to be the hall monitor
>/mkg/ general>0 discussion about keyboardsguys come on
>>106927934there is a discussion about mod colors right above your post which you could contribute to, or perhaps you'd like to talk about chinkshit keycap recommendations from aliexpress?
HAVE I BEEN SUMMONE->Two-Introsmust be someone else then, for I have a third Intro on the way. Starry black, it's perfect for the KKB Poltergeist. Always wanted to have a purple keycap set that didn't look like gays from outer space.
Also lol at the plebbitor who told me to go for PP with tactiles, I tried it out of curiosity but nothing makes my Melodics feel enjoyable except plain old Alu.
>be right-handed>try southpaw keyboard for a few months>it's awful>go back to regular keyboard>outside of return windowI don't know what I was expecting and I have only myself to blame.
im not impressed with my keychron v1 browns
Made up a bunch of totem boards into full builds. I have two or three wired and one wireless--what do you guys usually do to sell builds?
anyone ever order from aulas website?
imagine ceramic caps but with see through glass legends
>>106928750poo switches give poo results
>>106928750Avoid Keychron and Cherry.
ALUMINUM KEYBOARDS ACT AS SATELLITE DISHES THAT BROADCAST YOUR KEYSTROKES DIRECTLY TO SPACEWE HAVE BEEN PLAYED FOR FOOLS
>>106929905they actually shield it like your metal hat. or does your tinfoil acts like satellite dishes sending your thoughts to space?
>>106930020>or does your tinfoil acts like satellite dishes sending your thoughts to space?the dish points down, space is up not down, are you stupid?
want to try a topre keyboard. does 100% topre iso variants exist? i can't find one
>>106928737sell it on ebay
>>106928737how much you pay for that?shit's equivalent to 220USD here
>>106929831>cherryKeychron Super Browns are not manufactured by Cherry
>>106928737If it makes you feel any better I committed to buying an even more expensive southpaw keyboard before I discovered this
>>106927906Running in the hallway violates the calm predictability of the hallway which makes it conducive to safe and steady traffic of students. That this public good, enjoyed by all, should be endangered by the recklessness of a few students is obviously unacceptable. My school had athletic facilities and open fields where a student can run to his heart's content, leaving no excuse to do so in the hallways.
>>106927355Can you actually touch type the f-keys?
>>106930764Jesus Christ dude. Never change.
>>106927313Woopsiethey used mod colors on the tilde on official promo shotsguess that settles it.
>>106931248This says so much about you that you think this is evidence lol
>>106931256Tbf it's on one out of several others where the tilde key isn't a mod color but nonetheless, when it works out it works out. The mod color scheme looks good because it's WKL.
After searching high and low, I finally found the Carbon R3 in CDATA. It's Morbin time, bitches!
>>106931383>SingaporeThis all makes a lot more sense now.
Okay this is my final form for real
>>106930138Not only that but true topre switches don't even exist in modern manufacturing. Good luck finding one of these
>>106930614About $100 from Microcenter.
>>106931542Looks like a mix of CYL, SA and DSA profiles. The alphas have all sorts of colours. Now this, this is TRVE individualism. This keyboard has character.
>>106931542Ohhh lol now I know what this keycap set was supposed to be
>>106931785>The alphas have all sorts of colours.They all, as far as I can tell, indicate functionality. Dark for what we usually call mods, light for alphas, and a middle gray helps to see the shape of the numpad in the alphas (which, as a hidden-numpad-65% user, I completely understand.) The mod color dot in the numpad is an interesting difference, which does make sense, since it's a bit of an edge case (Is it modifying the inputs that follow, or placing a dot character in the number? Their interpretation makes sense.)
>>106931542Where is that faggot who says there is no use case for layers now????
Should i get the Ajazz ak820 base black one? t. thirdie
Hey /mkg/, can y’all help me replace my keyboard?>Budget$100 max>LocationTexas>Preferred switch typeI have Cherry MX blue switches rn, but I'm not picky. I'm curious to know what /mkg/ prefers. >LayoutANSI>Form factor80% - 65%; I would get a 60%, but I need arrow keys to game.>BacklightNot a fan of any type of backlighting. Would only buy one with backlighting if there's an ability to turn it off.>Current keyboardNoppoo Choc Mini 84 w/ Cherry MX blue keys, pic relatedThanks!
>>106932381Genuinely great take. Thanks, I feel more inspired to mélange up my Half Life board and work something distinctive out.
>>106932829Check out the Transition Lite. It's from Swagkeys so it's probably decent for how cheap it is.
>>106932829>I'm curious to know what /mkg/ prefers.We're constantly fighting with another because we disagree>Would only buy one with backlighting if there's an ability to turn it off.There always is. Although some have under-key lighting for lock indicators which can only be disabled with a firmware change (e.g., Keychron)As for switches, unless you really want it to "sound better" I wouldn't change much. MX Blue has not many fans here but it does do one thing uniquely well and that's its particular sort of tactility which is sharp and small and right near the actuation point. This makes it feel OK for gaming in a way that the other more tactile clickies out there don't.I'd just get something like this:https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/filco-majestouch-3-tkl?variant=47608032035116Empty plastic case is good for clickies (not stuffed full of foam). Nothing too fancy here. Double shot PBT keycaps, looks simple but attractive, probably will last a good long time. If $115 is too much money, they have a less popular colorway on sale dirt cheap:https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/filco-majestouch-2sc-tkl?variant=47607774085420But if black's what you want, it might be better to spend more and get what you'll be happier with.If you want to try other clickies with a better reputation among keyboard enthusiast types, you could check out 8bitdo's keyboards, which have Kailh Box Whites that use a different click mechanism. They're a little bit gamers○y though>>106932911I think it would be hard for him to keep that under budget.
>>106932829https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-tiger-lite-gaming-keyboard-kitNeed to get switches and keycaps separately.
Probably going to buy the memeboard because roomy, resonant plastic chassis and 2.4ghz wireless. But before I do, are there any keyboards like this in 1800 layout? Wish 8bitdo themselves made that version, but until then, I'll settle for fullsize if nothing else meets those criteria.
>>106933182>big HEY THIS IS RETRO AND IT IS A KEYBOARD texttotally ruins it
>>106933182Man that 8BitDo looks trippy, go forth and CONSOOM
>>106933331I have the Fami version, I am typing with it this very second and I like it. A bit of consumerism isn't a bad thing.It also came with two comically large buttons, I have no idea what to do with them.
>>106933631lmao give me those
>>106933541their numpad is pretty nice. don't really like the keyboards, maybe the TKL with this theme but I'll probably just get the numpad
>>106933182>>106933631>>106933682Who buys this slop. Also surprised Nintendo hasn't tried to sue them.
>>106933735numpad looks fine. also has a display so you can use it as a standalone calculator. and price is not bad, $40 or smth
>>106933541I intend to, I just need to know if there's an alternative somewhere that supports the definitive keyboard layout.>>106933735They've made straight-up SNES clone controllers before. Newer product designs are more 'inspired by' than 'ripped off from' Nintendo stuff, so Nintendo probably did tell them to knock it off.
>>106933028$55 + $28 shipping to Texas, assuming no duties charged along the way (big assumption), leaves only $17 for keycaps and switches. That's not even enough to buy 90 Gateron Milky Yellows.So at a minimum he's going ~$20 over budget, and if he wants actually nice keycaps he's probably going $40+ over budget. And this is assuming he's not buying lube for the stabilizers, or a switch/keycap puller, which together probably add another $10. >>106933735I mean, it's a functional keyboard that's competitive in its price range. The fact that the styling borders on being a bit gay doesn't make it "slop"
Aaah I'm LUUUUBING
Anyone order from here? https://vortexgear.store/
>>106934015Yeah, some people have:https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/180u2zw/avoid_vortex_keyboards_at_all_costs/
>>106934024Appreciate it. Will avoid:-)
>>106934035the tl;dr if you look past the Reddit hysterics is that they are kind of a smallish company in China and it's not feasible for them to be good at doing international returns, and for cultural reasons it's not very important to them to take some extra losses to keep up good reputation. So if you get a faulty product, which does happen unfortunately, it might be a pain in the ass to return it and they'll make you eat some of the costs. If you want something they're selling, buy it through a local vendor who will accept your returns and be much less painful to deal with. E.g. MechanicalKeyboards.com if you're in the US. If you buy from Vortex directly, accept that you're taking a risk.
On FR4, the KD 200s sound like a vintage typewriter. The heavy Xinhais are somehow more muted than the Sonjas, which is impressive because these are bright and loud on every other plate I've tried.
>>106934015Yeah, forget Vortex exists. Total shame they made the Model M SSK, the PCB doesn't even curve up like it authentically should.Vertex is the superior V brand.
>>106934073>in Chinaall we need
>>106934119>the PCB doesn't even curve up like it authentically should.Yeah they could have tried a little harder lol
On PC, for me, it's the SWK Ghost Dragons.
>>106928737I just got one, it's weird AF for regular typing but it fucks when it comes to Solidworks.
>>106931556damn dude I'd give you $100 for it today.
>>106933182>>106933631These boards are a cool novelty, but their proprietary config software for layout editing blows (especially since it loves to corrupt layout profiles and macros, and bafflingly lacks some features). If someone can hack these with QMK/VIA firmware, they'd be immediately making these boards far better. They can get fucked for that $500 68-key board they just revealed today though (even if it's fully made of aluminum alloy).>>106933735Nintendo did take legal action against them in the late 2010s, when their SNES-style controllers were originally much more blatant visual ripoffs of actual SNES controller designs (they probably crossed the line by making the logo the same font and style as the SNES controller logo). See pic related.>>106933760>>106933682They really fucked up by opting for the calculator on the numpads instead of key remapping. A $40 macropad of this quality would've been a goddamn steal.
>>106934588>They really fucked up by opting for the calculator on the numpads instead of key remapping. A $40 macropad of this quality would've been a goddamn steal.me thinks I could respin the pcb since it's pretty basic, and would also upgrade the display to VFD (which is what should have been), and ye also QMK.someone tried to hack it but they encrypt their shit and no joyhttps://skowronski.tech/posts/2025-05-24-8bitdo-numpad-firmware-hackability/
>>106934588>$500 68-key boardnah, that's a crazy price and having "Retro" on it is pure kitsch
>>106934588Nintendo are evil fucking pricks lol
>>106934588Lol are those aluminum keycaps too
>>106934773NTA but yes. Explains why it's so expensive.
>>106934773Yep.
>>106934781>cold to the touch>sounds badHard to understand why anyone would do this
>>106934790Trying to find out what sort of coating they're using for the alu keycaps but I'm not finding info on 8bitdo's page. Is it cerakote? Anodizing?
There really is no mouse that can sit and not look subpar next to a norbauer keyboard.
Ceramic keycaps.Meme, or dream?
ive been using 100% for so long that not ahving that enter key on the bottom right throws my entire computing experience off. I tried a TKL and couldnt do it. tried the 90% but it was just oo cluttered around the arrow keys. it may be a cant tech an old dog new tricks type of thing but i am set in my ways on 100% layout
>>106934840also curious. if matte then they could stain. if shiny then would look kinda bad but would be easily cleaned
>>106934679Not surprised at all that they encrypt their shit to hell.
>>106926847where the fuck is the home and end keys???
>>106935434
>>106934840I don't get it because a decade ago ceramics and metal were considered too hard to type on by basically any material scientistband would hurt your fingers. But all the sudden ceramic is the new high end material to type on :/
>>106935447if you're going to resort to numpad for nav anyway, what's even the point in having arrow keys at all? that's something I've never understood about 1800 layouts
