Shitbuds EditionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>106925273
eq guide lost
>>106942470reminder to buy your $5 pos, harvest their top quality driver, and transplant them into $1000 shells
>>106942479Chatgpt lost.
>>106942481claude won
daybreak or sm4objective answers only!
>>106942492either, both aim for targets that are equally preferredbut daybreak for me
>>106942492p50 with custom faceplates
>>106942508don't reply to me or post in my threads ever again
>>106942492daybreakobjectively? better QC, more eartips, better cable with different terminations, has lip so eartips won't slip as much, better shell.
>>106942520q1 pro with custom faceplates.
Any tips for foam iem tips?I got recommended whizzer MM100 last time to get alongside the wyvern abyss and enjoyed them but now buddy needs some & these are now unobtanium
How the fuck do you get two peaks at the ear gain.
>>106942583fuckin kek
Lithium-Magnesium Dome Diaphragm won
>>106942583shit's fucked
>>106942479>>106942485>>106942600I think we broke him
>>106942470use the accurate version next thread
>>106942529How much do they charge for custom prints?
>>106942655
>>106942668You pay with your heterosexuality. About $30.
>>106942670stop replying to yourself, tard. $5 shitbuds + EQ mogs everything, didn't you read the EQ GUIDE??
>>106942673So basically double the price, so it must be for waifufags
>>106942683well uh about that umm yeah nobody has
>>106942668Price of a G10/Q1 pro.
>>106942683Everything needs EQ, you still need a good IEM. Like this, not your trash heap.
New moonderp speeka, tots??
EQ guide keeps winning.
>>106942700mogged by EDC Pro
>>106942709iirc their first speakers weren't bad, just overpricedhopefully they continue doing good stuff, these look like small desktop speakers which is definitely a good market for them
>>106942709Do their drivers fall off or something.
>>106942700your pos is a really expensive way to sound worse than a $5 shitbud
>eq one $5 shitbud>schizo melts down and spams 8 random charts from google imagesthat's how you know we won
>>106942727t.
Price is inverse to quality edition. Your pos has more distortion than chu2. $5 shitbuds won.
>>106942736>I EQ everything>I only EQ one IEM <- we are here>I don't EQ
This image destroys the graphtard.
>>106942718
>>106942745one of many. that particular one triggered your latent schizophrenia
remember to buy headpos
>>106943110Obsoleted by IEMs.
>>106943110did you even watch the video lol?I bet he'd prefer daybreaks (with coffee tips) to edition XV
>>106942485At generating slop.
>>106943200>needs a special tip to tame treble by 1dB and unlock nirvanaCope, also xhe's cringy mod and friend, too biased. If daybreak were from ziigaat it'd be DOA
>>106943304you'd need to roll eartips regardless so how is it cope?XV has meh bass and not as accurate mids and he's just sucking them off cause their overly dark treble doesn't hurt his ears.They also cost x2 of daybreaks. obsolete headpos still obsolete
>>106943322>hisassuming gender?? stfu and just EQ so you can enjoy some skull rattle instead of little farts in the ear canal
>>106943110doesn't he hate hifiman slop?>>106943200honestly i always assumed he was just being nice because it was a crin product lol
>>106943110Being a sidegrade to hd650 means it's absolute dogshit.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/aes-2025-paper-new-targets-for-the-b-k-5128-gras-45ca-10.66704/DAMN brothis paper ruffled some feathers amir fucking SEETHING about 5128 and target curves... Shit's crazy.
>>106943396this is the most milquetoast debate i've seen, kind of sad to seethey're making a fuss over very trivial matters in the grand scheme of things
>>106943396ngl the absolute best thing about the 5128 is that amir spent a fuckload on the GRAS rig and basically everyone moved to a new standard immediately after, and since his marginally rich ass can't afford it now he is forced to cry in poor and copes with his shitrig that every other measurementfag including olive says is obsolete
>>106943359>doesn't he hate hifiman slop?that's the only one he liked>honestly i always assumed he was just being nice because it was a crin product loldaybreaks are basically tuned to crin's IEF pref target which is VERY close to SG target which is rated similarly or sometimes even higher than harman IE.So like objectively speaking daybreak's tuning should be preferred by a lot of people.A lot of people got it and had very positive impressions of how it is tuned. It's a nice IEM and deal regardless of the tuning too.
>>106943396>The Corina likely has the lowest acoustic impedance (we didn't measure this) being an open-back electrostatic. lol the staxtard won
>>106943435after reading this I do think amir is being kinda unreasonable...He's ignoring 5128 benefits for IEMs entirely and seething about over ears and no 5128 OE target very weirdly... >>106943436dude legit hurt>There is no standard. New or otherwise. Sometimes I think you all are on payroll of B&K with all your advertorials.lol
>>106943477i think, for this topic in particular, amir is being unreasonably hard headed, but this is something you see in professional settings very oftenit ends up becoming a debate around goal and scope, and his is one that revolves almost entirely around predicting preference, which is not wrong but he's using this stance to invalidate possible benefits of the new rig so it comes off bad
>no peer-reviewed papersI sleep, senile olive is a fraud and harman IE sux
PEQdB figured targets, what's even the point??
>>106943542figured out toilets yet or no?
>>106943525you already was called out, exposed, and utterly defeated. Just fuck off
>>106943554lmao
>>106943554>pagpagzo trying to memecringe
>>106943567>t. senile olive reader
>>106943604stop shitting up the thread and use a toilet
>>106943618stop eating food from garbage
just checkin in bros. hope we're having exhilarating and insightful conversations today>>106943614kek
>>106943634hi simzo did you see the melty last thread they had about you? crazy stuff
>>106943525you're not wrongShartman IE is basically pricking-your-brain-with-a-needle-through-your-ear target
>>106943634hello fellow Simzo, driver quality (techs) really peaked at $90
>>106943646I dipped shortly after >>106942188I did see the rest of the thread...so many ESLs in here pretending to be like 3 different anons.
>>106943671Did you see how chatgpt lost?
>>106943657find me a 1DD at less than a hundred dollars more that outclasses EA500LM and I'll snag it
>>106943688chu 2
>>106943671*and pretending to know english
>>106943690ok so Chu 2 or EDC Pro??
>>106943688Too easy.
Again, that is an issue for people using 5128. The GRAS 45CA/KB5000 does not have such sensitivity. It produces far more consistent results.We have the real deal here: a fixture (GRAS), a target, and listening tests behind development of a target over a nearly a decade of work. Folks who want to screw around with this formula need to first prove there is any improvement to be had.As for SINAD, we are there and then some. People need to produce headphones/IEMs that come close or match the Harman curve. Customers then need to apply a bit of EQ or pick from the variations in this theme that better first their preference. Get the industry here and we will be miles ahead of where we are now where only a small portion of the market does this.5128 adds unneeded complexity to above. It will produce different response for the same headphone, leading to confusion. I have already had this issue with a company wanting to trust their 5128 measurements more. But there was no there, there. Fitment of both IEMs and headphones is also more difficult and hence variable on 5128.Amir
Amir won
>>106943716i'm siding with the towelhead terrorist, he's right 5128 is a scam
>>106943716bro, we can read the asr thread, you don't have to post the posts here
>>106943728You have published listening tests to back this? What correlation are you getting from measurements to listening preference with 5128 vs GRAS 45CA?
>>106943716Aren't they kinda compatible until 10kHz? Acoustic impedance and shit looked really close enough.
There is literally no use case for anything other than a chink 711 to check/fix channel balance. Bass and treble are all variable and must be done by ear even if you have your own personal target.
>>106943750source?
>>106943750Low acoustic impedance transducers don't have this problem.
>>106943759That's just from the insertion depth, overall bass level will change from the acoustic impedance.>>106943760All transducers have the treble problem.
>>106943766My ear perfectly matches the treble response of a 711 coupler.
>>106943716>We have the real deal here: a fixture (GRAS), a target, and listening tests behind development of a target over a nearly a decade of work. Folks who want to screw around with this formula need to first prove there is any improvement to be had.this is very funny when literally shitted out of soundguys's asses 5128 target is rated as high as "decade of work" 2019 IE.
>>106943750true>>106943759it's just common sense
>>106943775I'm sorry your ear is only rated to 10kHz.
>>106943741what in the living fuck are you talking about
>EPZ Q1 Pro has been top tier for the last two yearsTwo years of no innovation? Have we already reached peak cheap Chinese iems? How am I supposed to chase the audiophilic dragon now?
>>106943775highly unlikely
>>106943775>treble response of a 711 coupler.which one?
>>106943741>>106943791ok nvm you're quoting another post, jesus christ this place is scrambling my smooth brain
>pos that measures bright on 711 sounds bright>pos that measures dark on 711 sounds darkexplain that
>>106943702both are fine $5 shitbuds
Never pay more than 20 bucks for a $5 shitbud
>>106943826define bright
>>106943872define define.
>>106943826can you prove timbre exists?
Is the current kickstarted about the Hidisz AP80 Pro max worth it?I mainly play music with tidal right now, but want to move back to offline lossless because fuck subscriptions and I miss my foobar days
>>106943906you hear it dummy.
>>106943920no, wait for the AP80 Pro XX Max II Turbo Hi-Fi Giga Nigga Edition
>>106943896>to say what the meaning of something, especially a word, is>to explain and describe the meaning and exact limits of something>Cambridge Dictionary
>>106943974grok lost, homie.
>>106943795free your mind
>>106944001..that's not grok that's cambridge dictionary?
>>106944062shit I can put>Sean Olivebut it doesn't mean it was by him? help me out here
>>106944280it is easily verifiable lol stop being retarded
>>106943931you did get checked for audiatory hallucinations right anon
Now that the dust has settled, why did PR2 mindbreak chartfags? It's the easiest $5 shitbud to PEQ.
>>106944545>easiestin what sense
>survived an entire year without getting replaced by billions of other pos releases>still going strong>still GOATEDLiterally what is even the next step here?
>>106944603making it less ugly and removing the chink cum
Anime on the box = not buying your faggot shit
>>106944545is that an r2r dongle?
>>106944545Can't EQ THD.
EQing sounds like homework. I dont need to do that with regular earpods
>>106942529Can you get those with Adolf Hitler?
>>106942750What does this list show? Distortion? Noise floor? What am I looking at?
>>106945653SEE THE TOP OF THE PIC YOU BLIND MONKEYrms thd% btw
Can someone tell me which IEM brands offer custom shell designs? Is it only EPZ?My budget is $200.
>>106945658> RMS % THDSo what does that mean?
Well I broke half of the little mmcx pin on my Shure SE215's. My only other IEMs are CCA CRA's which are too bulky. I need something I can wear under a motorcycle helmet, the Shures were perfect for that. Ideas?
Did you guys know the Truthear Gate solved the IEM game? It's scientifically the best IEM ever made according to Amir.https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/truthear-gate-17-iem-review.61784/
>>106945706root mean square, it's a method for averaging thd>>106945805epz q5 pro is the closest in terms of shape, but the tanchjim bunny can probably work too
>>106942470Thank you to the anon who recommended this tube amp. I’m enjoying it so far.
>>106946316pic makes the white cable look like it's connected to yo dick (or pussy)
>>106946316your house looks third world
>>106945701Softears and hisenior make customs but I don't know if you can order them from aliexpress.
>>106943750>>106943766The actual sound of an IEM changes depending on the user, but what the IEM should be targeting in the first place also depends on the user. Even harman research says you should be adjusting the target for yourself. Buying by reviews and buying by graphs are two sides of the same coin. You can't escape EQ.
recommend me a dark, velied pos for <$150requirement: very soft and absolutely non-fatiguing sound but also not devoid of upper treble
>>106947312wyvern black remastered
>>106947312celest rue
>>106947312HD 600 / HD 650
i would rather permanently have no sound on any electronic devices than be so retarded as to circlejerk headphones as much as you niggers
>>106948088it's just some banter mate, chill out and listen to some tunes
>>106948156Only listen to real music https://soundcloud.com/itsdrdonk/pump-up-4
>>106947312tangzu xuan nv might surprise you with the smoothness of the treble.
my fellow eqtards, let's all laugh at this guy who would rather spend $150 than eq >>106947312
>>106947312Aful Explorer. But if you can increase your budget, Mangird Tea 2 still has some listings on Ali, comprehensive upgrade to the Explorer but very pricey right now (no more $220 deals).
saar, do not redeem $5 shitbud. distortion means you can't eq it... do not buy chu2 for $13 you must peqdb and spend $50+ for driver quality saaars
>>106949051the ZVX Pro can be had for $8 and sounds better than most crap on ALi
>>106949090the distortion saar. it has 0.1003% THD. this is unacceptable. buy $75 pos and go to peqdb right now
>>106949145Yes. You need at least 1% like in BA and planar pos. More is better. Boost it further with R2R and tubes if possible.
>>106946316Enjoy your TA-66 bro, hope you have some high impendence cans for it
/iemg/ 2025 holidays shopping guide$3 EDC Pro 1DD$4 Celest Rue 1DD$4 CVJ Luki 1DD+1vibrator$7 Castor 2DD$7 Krila 1DD+1BA$8 Sgor Venus 1DD$10 PR2 1planar$10 QKZ x HBB 1DD$12 Rosefinch 1DD$12 GATe 1DD$13 Chu II 1DD$20 Lafitear LF3 Pro 1DD+1EST+1BA$20 TRN ST7 2DD+5BA$30 VX Pro+ 1DD+8BA$23 TRN Lucky Bag (5 IEMs)
>>106946316>>106949288What you think you're hearing: a tube.What you're actually hearing: a resistor.
>>106949337Grim.
>>106949479What you think she is: your motherWhat she actually is: a whore
>>106949551Bloody benchod bastard.
>>106949620>that post counts as indian in 2025well at least I made a truthful statement
>>106949204you forgot the most important part, using EQ with a 1-bit r2r dac.
>>106949813>1-bit r2rThe Jeet Mind Cannot Comprehend The Time Domainas if we needed more evidence
I noticed pbthal vinyl rips are also receptive to peqing to perfection.
>>106950012EQ your hairline.
>>106950036>le headpos baldboo. new material onegai
>>106950061EQ your hair cells.
>>106950095EQ your tinnitus
>>106942470anyone know of these bluetooth earhook kinds of things, but with memory wire? these just arent adjustable enough to get a good seal
>>106911624see you soon
>>106950146>tanya>not DSPuh oh...
>>106950168it's to be plugged into a 3.5mm jack coming out of a SoundBlaster GC7 on a PC, nothing quite so demanding.Aiming for comfort and convenience first, quality a distant second.I've got quality sets, but they're all a bit inconvenient re: wireless + battery life, or those ear wrap-around designs.
why do earhooks filter /g/ so much?
>>106950146ED9 Pro was the only IEM that had QC issues for me. Never again.
The upcoming Shanling UA7 dongle, Shanling hybrid tube + opamp dongle will be using the "triple engine architecture" of ESS9069 for DAC, OPA1612 + BUF634 for the opamp side and JAN6418 vacuum tube for the tube amp side. Retire EQ and enjoy tube timbre.
>>106950461>implying i won't buy that at launch and alter my peq profiles for it in hibymusic app
>no one talks about the APP3 anymorewasn't it the pos killer? what's happened?
>>106950525iems are a solved hobby. the bubble has popped. get your $0 cheapies.
>>106950461>Shanling hybrid tube + opamp dongle will be using the "triple engine architecture" of ESS9069 for DAC, OPA1612 + BUF634 for the opamp side and JAN6418 vacuum tube for the tube amp side.Is doing this even gives any kind of advantage over normal dac/amp?
>>106948884In what way is the Tea 2 an upgrade to the Explorer? Doesn't look that way on the graph.
>>106950525It has no wires so it's trash.>>106950631There is an insane number of dongles with balanced out.
I like how RU7 is one of the few dongles with balanced line out, I can connect it to a portable tube amp to fully bring out my 96khz vinyl rips. Only the best source for my 1DD + 8BA VX Pro+s.
Mfw someone is able to hear distortion.
>>106950572saar... the distortion saaar
>>106950614The bass is better (more texture, impact, rumbling), the graph is not depicting the subtleties, despite Explorer having more.The mids is better (the vocals are better)The treble, to me, is better, Explorer sounds flat and lifeless. Other tangibles: Explorer's cable might look nice but it becomes extremely stiff after a year, with light use/ in storage mind you, and one side clogged (condensation) until I left it in dry storage then it turned back to normal. I use Tea 2 as my jogging/commuting buds in winter and it never clogged.
>>106944855it's resistors but not a ladder. it uses software to upsample 44.1KHz to 11.2MHz shitting frames to the resistor network at incredible hihg speed
>>106951108Sabre/cirrus DACs work at 40-100MHz. That's lo-fi as fuck.
>>106951161yeah but it's a shit algorithm with bugs, especially cirrus. they're proprietary chips that have to show off low power on the spec sheet
>>106950614>Doesn't look that way on the graph.only way to know for sure is to listen for yourselfunless your are an adroid with a metal tubes for ear canals
sell your pos and buy hifi
>>106951542Ok now iemg just needs $20,495.00
>>106951542Get that poorfag shit outta here.
>>106950251It's fine if the top part is braided. The ones that came with the Salnotes Zero and Gate were less comfortable. The over -ear detached cable style is definitely more durable than the bullets with fixed cables that point straight down.>>106950310Mine has held up well, but it is built pretty much the same as the original ED9 that had severe cable breakage issues.
>>106951575you play this in 3rd world favelas and half of the neighborhood crumbles to dust lmao
coming through nerds. disrespect harman? think you hear "soundstage?" you ain't got shit
>>106943795>How am I supposed to chase the audiophilic dragon now?Put a dragon on the faceplate.
damn when i was talking to dunu rep he told me the 3001bd effect audio collab was coming "at the same price" so i got a lil boner waiting for it.ofc he meant it would stay the same price + the cable cost -______-
>>106951605favelas are built using bricks, muricans cardboard houses that will crumble to dust
Which TWS are the best currently?As much as I like my pos, having ANC has been a complete godsend for me whenever I'm out.Also I'm on Android so I assume AirPods are out of the question.
>>106944603The cable gets uncomfortably stiff after a while, I recommend a fully braided replacement when this happens.Still, mine is at least two years old and still totally fine, even after being submerged in pool water. You can unclog the filters by scraping the gunk off the outside, but it will scratch the paint on the filter.
>>106951813Airpods Pro 2 if you care about ANC + decent SQ.You just miss the useless loudness comp on android
>>106951542You have two kidneys.
>>106951871>You just miss the useless loudness comp on androidMost posts I've read made it seem like the AirPods were neigh unusable on Android, is that really all?Also I'm seeing the Pro2s and the Pro3s at the same price here, are the new ones any better?
>>106951664ngl im gonna make this out of styrofoam one day, this looks like stagezilla
>>106951969It's fine on my end. Don't you have an apple store in your city? You can just demo it. 3's ANC/transparency/battery is better but sound is a toss up depending on taste
>>106952119Apple Stores are quite scarce in my country, but I should get a hold of someone with a pair to try out eventually.Thanks for the advice!
YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO EQ BECAUSE OF DISTORTION!!!!
>>106952259Upgrade to $5 IEMs to solve distortion, then you can EQ.
>>106952259EQing stuff with high distortion can literally break it. So yes. You have been warned.
>>106952341>YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO EQ BECAUSE OF DISTORTION!!!!
>buy distorting pos>can't EQ
High THD doesn't mean anything if the harmonics fall within the masking curves. But again, too advanced for iemg.
>>106952703not really, everyone knows this, it's just fun to poke fun at high thd on iems because you have to go out of your way to have high thd
>>106952703Better yet: Show me a single more or less realistically relevant IEM with THD being an issue.
>>106952863every pos with a ba driver lol, also kz multi dds and planarsif you can't hear ba timbre or planar zing you are deaf
>>106952341Which ones?
Eqtards won.
>>106953006How? Eqtards are always wasting time tweaking their length mode or bass from leakage. Driver quality owners just sit and enjoy the transient fidelity.
>>106952958>ba timbreAuditory hallucinations from hearing loss. KZ literally proved this doesn't exist when audiophools heard a disconnected driver. Get checked, anon.
>>106943750>tiprolling>insertiond depth>seal>overall condition (swellings, preasure, etc)>change in preference for sound over time (tiprolling)I'm not equing even once, fucking waste of time.
>>1069530791 measurement.
>>106953079>uneq'd pos>driver quality[deafness intensifies]
>>106953098So you like bad sound quality, many such cases.
>>106952958>every pos with a ba driver lolShow me the data, just because you can't afford it does not mean its automatically bad.
Listen here, Jack. You're not allowed to EQ your $5 shitbud to perfection. It's just not allowed man. You're stealing from all the noeqs being ear raped by their $100+ pos. C'mon man. Think of all the distortion. Chu II has over 0.1002% THD. Can't EQ with that kind of distortion. Anyway... where am I
>>106952958Post your collection of pos with ba drivers and distortion measurements before and after EQ.
>>106953236he can't hear muh distortion over the hearing loss....
>>106952958>ba timbre or planar zing >look inside>FR
point to me on a driver where the quality is
>>106951542>needs 20k speakers to mog $20 IEMgrim
>>106953125I pay money for that>just eq ddsyou cant polish a turd and pretend it's a diamond
>>106953291>he pays money for bad sound qualityTragic.
>>106953291how 1dd is a turd...??
>>106953309I'm enjoying music and my pos and you are projecting for 15 minutes straight.
>>106953342(Origin) sounds like shit compared to multidrivers (many).>muh cohehrencyYou know what else has it? Vidos. Flatpos are the only good things for single DD.
>>106953347>"enjoying" music on uneq'd posShould be illegal honestly. Legitimate health hazard.
Saw this CSD of etude, ordered luki to check whether EQ can fix that, or even emulate it without a vibro driver.
>>106953369Sound quality is a skill issue.
half of you don't know whether you're clipping a signal or have headroom.
>>106953369>(Origin) sounds like shit compared to multidrivers (many).You not liking how origin sounds has nothing to do with it being 1DD?Kinda weird take.
>>106953342Uneven treble response which is a pain to EQ and most likely the fidelity of a good multidriver pos will not be achieved. Fun fact: there are 1DDs with smooth treble like Twilight and Illustrious but they cost more than mainstream smooth tribrids.
>>106953449
where is the ba pos avoid guy? cant believe niggas really defending bas out here
>>106953469>judging treble by graphs>thinking if it's smooth for 1 guy it'll be smooth for everyone >thinking other drivers have better treble Deafzo...
>>106953469>Uneven treble response which is a pain to EQ and most likely the fidelity of a good multidriver pos will not be achieved.Treble response changes a lot depending on your individual ear canal anatomy and insertion depth. Trying to attribute it to driver configuration is a fool's errand.>the fidelity of a good multidriver posmeaningless designation.I can say fidelity of quality dynamic driver can not be achieved by multidrivers because of crossover and THD (which would be just as stupid).
>>106953500can't defend the timbre of a driver that isn't plugged in
>>106953555you act like kz buyers are human, we all know they are retarded
>>106953369You physically can't separate "driver quality" from FR if you don't EQ. Sorry but you aren't qualified to continue the discussion.
>>106953568audiophools got it for free lmao. you're hearing an auditory hallucination.
>>106953608if you can't hear 1% 3rd harmonic at 1KHz you are 100% deaf
>>106953631>I hear a driver that literally isn't outputting sound after the DD is disconnectedWhy are audiophools and graphtards literally schizophrenic?
>>106953098>>106953291Are you legit saying expensive pos doesn't need a good seal, correct insertion depth, tip rolling, etc, or just pretending to be retarded? What exactly do you think you paid for?
>>106953680they paid $95 extra for false assurance of "driver quality"
>>106953649why do you assume every company is as shitty as kz
>>106953706KZ was just the company that debunked that myth in a large scale trial. Thank you, KZ.
>>106953729you mean kz scammed their customers who are a bunch of drooling retards
>>106953738To make an omelette you need to crack a few eggs.
>>106953749good observation, kz owners are indeed also troons
>>106953738>scammedThe literal reviewers receiving them for free said they "heard" (read: hallucinated) BA timbre. They released a 1DD+7BA right after.
>>106953757>buyerssee >>106953763
>>106953738...? his point is that thanks to KZ's fuck up it was uncovered that people hear BA timbre with a pos that physically do not have working BAs. Proving that BA timbre is not a real thing.
>>106952560>YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO EQ BECAUSE OF DISTORTION!!!!
>>106953763we all know reviewers are subhuman retards, why do you keep bringing this up?play a 1K FS sine tone, and then play a -40dB 3K sine tone on top of it. it should be really fucking obvious if you're not deaf
>>106953414
>>106953706why are you on a tirade against a whole company? go back to plebbit. >>106953749Hydro closed the gap >>106953811what year do you think we're in? CRN is at least 4 years old and you talk like that fuckup is their common practice among all their shit. plebbitors...
>>106953839music isn't a pure sine wave dumbfuck, just compare your threshold https://youtu.be/7dLArMd-y64
>>106953901>you talk like that fuckup is their common practice among all their shitNo? I literally made no claims about how common it is
>>106953964it doesn't matter if i or anyone can hear it with music, some people even prefer additional distortion and thats perfectly finethe point is bas are audibly less accurate compared to DDs because of their distortion. if its audible with a test tone, its audible period
>>106953969then what are you stuck in the past for, holding a dumbass grudge? did KZ personally hurt you? they have good sets. you don't have to like them, but you will respect them. :)
>>106954006>some people even prefer additional distortion and thats perfectly fine.do you know what happens when you put too much bass into a BA? it's a physical property of BAs, called "toning out". they can't handle it like DDs can.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDEkztvf_lE&t=10s
>>106954007you should shill their good sets like the zenith or trio, not dogshit overpriced subpar pos
>>106954007>>106954087>they have good sets.Ratzo...
>>106954087if those two were any good, I would. you're being gay and contrarian for literally no reason lol. >>106954120dilate harder
>>106954154they are objectively and subjectively better, they did a reverse moondrop and made something they already perfected with the trio and vader even more expensive and unecessarily complicated you fell for the meme, just accept it and move. trio, vader, edc pro, zenith are much better on all fronts
>>106954154What's wrong with their Zenith (other than the unusual price for KZ)? Their marketing material kept emphasizing on the big dome driver thing.
>>106954007reread what I wrote
>>106951542did you sell your shitty 1 driver meme?
>>106953397I have with my Luki, although it wasn't a singular sharp peak like in the pic, more like an elevated region from 150 to 200 Hz. I hear the extra mid bass thump but you can remove it fairly easily.
>30 fake engagement posts pretending there is a difference between KZsThey are all trash, nobody cares, kill yourself.
>>106954255Oh look it's the retard that can't count.
>>106942492i prefer the sm4 and think it's more fun but some might find the highs a bit too harsh. daybreak is a safer choice
>>106954189>trio, vader, edc pro, zenith are much better on all fronts.all that is false. have you tried any of them?>>106954206I don't know anything about that pos, sorry>>106954317uh oh??? melty????????????
>>1069543684 years of shilling and 0(zero) IEMs sold through iemg, fucking embarrassing.
>>106954368i have (including the hydro) last year in a tour packagehydro is such a big meme in the grand scheme of things, you're essentially paying more for a meme cable that you could've bought for cheaper and that is better made
>be kz>amazon best seller>aliexpress best seller>temu best seller>shopee best seller
>>106954403and now, they are looking for their next untouched market:the 4 schizos powering /iemg/
>>106954393>such a big meme in the grand scheme of thingssays literally nothing. you sound more emotional than informed. I'll even bet you're lying your ass off, but I digress. Literally everybody else who's tried those sets say Hydro is the best release. You are the first I've heard anything remotely negative and seeing how baity and faggoty about it, I know you never tried em.
>>106954418>Literally everybody else who's tried those setswho? where are you seeing those people? reddit? discord? head-fi?
>>106954418i don't know why you're using reviews as if they are of any value, that's the most emotional thing you can do
>>106954435every possible impression or review ever.
>>106954486what are they comparing it to
>>1069543326k bucks on inferior pos bro
Where were you when ASR BTFO Harman non-believers?
mfw 1dd has no musicality enhancing euphonic harmonics Avoid 1dd anemic pos
>>106954541it hangs with hybrids 3x its price, I don't recall it being directly compared to something specific, like being a "mini-******" you know?
>>106954625>euphonic harmonicsptsd holy shit
>>106954603you don't need any of that at all in the first place. People will literally hear both pos and headpos differently.We don't know how much it's preference and how much it's differences in how we hear.also >sam harrislol lmaoPeople prefer harman curve... then suddenly SG shits out a target for both IEMs and headphones and it's BTFOing IE 2019... hmm so what does it tell us about curves and preferences? I wonder.
>>106954632>it hangs with hybrids 3x its price>I don't recall it being directly compared to something specificwhat did he mean by that...
that's what happens when senile olive keeps publishing non-peer reviewed papers, community is fighting over bad sciencemeanwhile chads proving transient fidelity in a peer-reviewed paper
>>106954649But anon, the Science™ says measurements always get the same results! HRTF and HpTF aren't real :^)
>>106954746paper so bad that its only readers are the reviewers lmao
>>106954746>meanwhile chads proving transient fidelity in a peer-reviewed paperliterally never happened
>>106954403>>106954408kz sold me 8 IEMs for $0
The $5 shitbud that buck broke noeqs.
>>106943621if the pizza is inside the box and smells fine then I don't see why not
>>106954625you can breathe musicality into pos with the right vinyl rip or equalizer profile. we used to call this the midrange but it interferes with techs so we banned it in the great V-slop war that followed the anti-dynamic Loudness Wars that eradicated all hope in volume levels or music that won't clip i truley cri everytim
the jews circumcized music by making dynamic range in an album higher than DR9 illegal, harman tuning in all mastering and playback devices, cheap sigma-delta algos reinvented on the 12914 different DAC chips released and stalling lossless 96KHz releases. wake up white man
>>106955171Mids don't existhttps://soundcloud.com/shadient/next-level
>>106955267Pink noise niggas in shambles.
is headtracking cool, or does the fun wear off quickly?
Left my Gate and dongle at work, so now I have to use my Q1 Pro with its intended music genre and hardware
>>106955484stay strong bro
>>106955484>>106955538Q1 pro users after the drummer lays down a sick cymbal riff
It's over. Sennheiser just made IEMs obsolete. Headphone Chads always getting the best stuff while we get the scraps
>tl;dw it's an eq'd wireless headposwow a true innovation (not)
>>106955954>$500>no LDAClol!
>wow a true innovation (not)
>>106955954>we get the scrapsAnd they get the snaps
$5 shitbud alert
$5 shitbud alert #2
>>106956544you've been told before. these are specific to you. there is no need to spam images of them, it's not being helpful because others are not guaranteed to see the same deal. enjoy your deals, stop spamming images free advertising for chinese earphone companies.
>>106956544>>106956556anon, i hope you realize that you're self-reporting the fact that you're a SEAfag
>>106956573>>106956586prove it with a screenshot
New thread?
>>106956669>>106956669>>106956669>6669
What's the best dongle dac for PC first and mobile use second? I need volume controls and doesn't have that pop in/pop out when not having played any sound in a while when connected to a PC.
